How Do You Know What You're Encoded For? (2469)

What if the thing you keep forcing is not a discipline problem, but a self-awareness problem? In today’s episode, Kevin and Alan unpack how to recognize what you are naturally encoded for, why career fit matters, and how passion, repetition, talent, and market demand all shape long-term success. Kevin shares lessons from training Bruce, an 80-year-old man at the gym, while Alan connects the conversation to multiple intelligences and the hard truth that life does not “just work out.” You have to study yourself, compare without ego, and build where your effort compounds. Listen in, then stop trying to win the wrong game. Noble suffering is still a bad strategy.

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Show notes:
(3:01) Discovering what comes naturally
(5:03) Strengths, weaknesses, and self-awareness
(7:10) Why career fit matters
(9:34) Finding your place in the economy
(13:21) Talent still needs repetition
(16:01) Passion, skill, and long-term mastery
(18:54) What to build your life around
(19:54) Comparing without ego
(20:47) Outro

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Transcript

Kevin Palmieri

(0:00) I have been training an 80 year old man at the gym. (0:06) And I used to be a personal trainer back in the day. (0:08) And yeah, I studied it.(0:09) But there are certain things where, like, I'll see him do something and I'll say, hey, try this. (0:15) This is your prompt. (0:16) This is what you want to feel.(0:17) This is what you want to think. (0:19) And I had a moment the other day where I was like, I don't nobody ever taught me that. (0:21) I didn't learn that in a book somewhere.(0:24) I think I'm just naturally encoded to understand certain things. (0:27) Now, maybe I'm not the best in the world. (0:29) I'm not saying that.(0:29) But you're encoded for something. (0:32) You are designed in a way. (0:35) You are more capable at something than I am by far.(0:39) It's just whether or not you know what it is.

Alan Lazaros

(0:41) There's something called MI theory. (0:43) Everyone can look this up. (0:44) MI theory, multiple intelligences theory.(0:47) And it talks about how there are nine different modalities of genius. (0:53) And all of us are naturally inclined for different ones. (0:57) Some of us have all nine.(0:58) Some of us have one really big one. (1:00) The one you're mentioning is kinesthetic. (1:02) And you definitely were always good at sports and kinesthetic.(1:05) So that comes naturally. (1:06) If you don't figure out what comes naturally, it's going to be very hard for you to build a career on a weakness.

Kevin Palmieri

(1:12) Welcome to Next Level University. (1:15) I'm your host, Kevin Palmieri. (1:17) And I'm your co-host, Alan Lazaros.(1:20) At NLU, we believe in a heart-driven, but no BS approach to holistic self-improvement for dream chasers.

Alan Lazaros

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Kevin Palmieri

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Alan Lazaros

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Kevin Palmieri

(1:55) Welcome to Next Level University. (2:00) Next Level Nation today for episode number 2,469. (2:04) How do you know what you're encoded for?(2:06) So the story I used there in the beginning, we... (2:10) So Bruce just turned 80. (2:11) Happy birthday, Bruce.(2:12) I also have his phone number now because that's how tight we are. (2:16) You told me his knees are shot.

Alan Lazaros

(2:18) One of his knees is shot. (2:20) I've been thinking a lot about that because I'm working out and I'm running. (2:24) The mileage is getting to me a little, 102 miles.

Kevin Palmieri

(2:26) It makes me nervous. (2:27) The running thing makes me nervous. (2:29) But I also don't know if that's a myth.(2:31) I mean, I have to do some work. (2:35) You run on your toes?

Alan Lazaros

(2:36) Trying to run a PR every goddamn time.

Kevin Palmieri

(2:38) You run on your toes? (2:39) Are you a heel striker? (2:44) It's the look of a heel striker.

Alan Lazaros

(2:45) Heel toe. (2:47) But I don't think it's excessive. (2:50) But I have to research, genuinely, because I've never...(2:53) I've never had knee issues in my entire life, ever. (2:55) Yeah, yeah, yeah. (2:56) But my point of this is, I've been thinking a lot about when you said his knees are shot.(3:02) And I was thinking, when I'm 80, I don't want my knees to be shot. (3:04) So I got to start doing stuff about it now. (3:06) Well, he also is...

Kevin Palmieri

(3:07) I mean, he was probably reckless in many of his... (3:09) For sure. (3:10) Right?(3:11) He's told me some stories. (3:14) He just turned 80. (3:15) I got his phone number.(3:16) We're buddies. (3:17) First day, I get a... (3:18) Because...(3:18) So I wasn't at the gym for like five days. (3:21) Kevin's bestie is 80 years old. (3:24) And Taryn was like, hey, Bruce is probably worried about you.(3:27) How would you tell him if something... (3:28) And the other thing is, if anything ever happens to Bruce, I want to know. (3:31) Bruce is my buddy now.(3:32) He's an 80-year-old guy. (3:34) Things happen. (3:35) He doesn't have a phone?(3:36) Well, he does. (3:38) I get his number. (3:39) Not seven hours later, he calls me.(3:41) And I texted him. (3:42) I said, Bruce, I'm going to text me, man. (3:44) You can't be calling me in the middle of the day, Bruce.(3:46) I stopped talking to my own father because of that.

Alan Lazaros

(3:48) What did he say to you?

Kevin Palmieri

(3:49) Nothing. (3:50) He doesn't know how to text, I don't think. (3:51) No, no, no.(3:51) What did he say? (3:52) What did he call you? (3:53) He just left me a voicemail.(3:54) Said, hey, buddy, hope you're doing well. (3:56) Okay. (3:59) He called me yesterday too.(4:00) Bruce is the man. (4:02) But here's the point. (4:03) I have been...(4:04) Bruce has been working out for longer than I have for sure. (4:08) Correctly, that's to be decided. (4:10) I don't know.(4:10) But he's extremely humble. (4:12) He's like, dude, just, I will do whatever you do. (4:14) Just take me through your workout.(4:15) Tell me what I'm doing wrong. (4:16) I want to have a good workout. (4:17) Awesome.(4:17) Love it. (4:18) And it's just, there's certain things where like, I don't know. (4:23) I don't know how to explain it.(4:24) I don't know why. (4:25) Is he doing wrist straps, elbow sleeves, knee sleeves, the whole line? (4:28) Wrist straps, always has his belt on, no elbow sleeves, occasional knee sleeves.(4:33) Impressive. (4:34) Occasional. (4:34) Occasional knee sleeves.(4:36) It's impressive. (4:37) But there's like, we're doing straight arm pushdowns to work the lats. (4:42) And I'm like, I don't know how, I don't know why I know, Bruce.(4:46) I don't know. (4:47) But here's your prompt. (4:49) We're doing the machine lateral raises.(4:52) Like, I don't know. (4:55) Don't think about this. (4:56) You're, you're imagining you're, you're punching out.(4:58) That's all you got to do. (4:59) Just punch out. (5:00) It's like, oh wow, that makes it work way better.(5:02) I don't know. (5:03) There are other things that I have no fucking clue. (5:06) I tried to grill.(5:07) We have a grill. (5:08) I tried to grill. (5:09) Brother, brother.(5:12) No, no brother. (5:14) First time's always terrible. (5:15) I've grilled in the past.(5:16) That's not even my excuse. (5:17) I just don't get it. (5:19) I don't understand how to cook chicken.(5:21) I don't get it. (5:21) I burn the shit out of it. (5:22) I don't get it.(5:23) There are just certain things where like, yeah, like drawing straight lines. (5:30) I worked as a quote unquote carpenter for years. (5:33) I am terrible at that.(5:34) I have no idea how to do it. (5:35) I can measure the same thing five times. (5:37) I get five different measurements.(5:39) I am not naturally encoded to be good at that. (5:42) That's what we're talking about. (5:43) Like, how do you figure out what you're encoded from Jim Collins, right?

Alan Lazaros

(5:47) Naturally encoded. (5:48) Good stuff, right? (5:48) Yeah.(5:49) He talks about how he thought he was good at math until he went to a school where people were naturally encoded.

Kevin Palmieri

(5:55) And if he invested his entire life into that and he eventually realized, oh shit, I'm actually not good at this, then he would be Jeffed.

Alan Lazaros

(6:02) I think that's one of the reasons why I think it's so important to like, get to the next level. (6:07) The point of this episode, the point of this podcast is so that you realize you need to learn quickly when you're not. (6:14) Well, how do you figure out?(6:16) You play basketball in Venice beach. (6:19) Yeah, but. (6:21) Micro, give me the, I know, I know.(6:22) But that, that is an example, right? (6:23) Yeah, it was, it was very important for me. (6:26) That was a turning point in my life where I was like, okay, I'm done with this.

Kevin Palmieri

(6:29) I'm done.

Alan Lazaros

(6:29) What's the micro? (6:30) What's the micro try to get around people that make you uncomfortable? (6:34) You, you have to, you have to try to get around people that make you uncomfortable.(6:40) I actually think that I provide this for a lot of my clients. (6:43) Go ahead.

Kevin Palmieri

(6:43) Isn't it? (6:43) What about the opposite end of get around people who are terrible at things? (6:49) Obviously that's harsh, but like.(6:52) Why is that useful? (6:53) Because it makes you realize how. (6:55) Good you are.(6:56) How if, yeah. (6:58) If like you're around a group of people and there's a problem to be solved and it just like makes sense. (7:02) Like this isn't even a problem.(7:03) I don't understand.

Alan Lazaros

(7:04) Yeah. (7:04) Okay. (7:05) Yeah.(7:05) There's both of those are important. (7:07) Well, so let's do this. (7:10) I'm not going to go through the multiple intelligences theory.(7:12) I want everyone to research it. (7:14) There's nine different ones. (7:15) And if you have all nine of them, you're a savant.(7:17) You're just good at everything. (7:19) It's ridiculous. (7:20) And if you're, if you have a couple of them, you'll know.(7:25) When you, you, the, the first core of this, I'm trying to go to the core because I tend to go all over the place. (7:34) Okay. (7:34) The core of this is you cannot build a career on something that you're naturally mediocre at.(7:40) You can, but you shouldn't. (7:42) You really shouldn't. (7:43) Like you really shouldn't.(7:48) Uh, let me give a good example of this. (7:51) This is my take. (7:53) Unless you're above average out of the gate, you should not build your career on it.

Kevin Palmieri

(7:59) How do you know when you're 17, you start designing your career. (8:03) So how do you know whether you're better than the person getting hammered next to you at the frat, not the frat party, the house party? (8:10) Like, how do you even know?

Alan Lazaros

(8:12) I think you have to decide to, I think it comes down to being observant again. (8:18) Like we talked about in the last episode. (8:21) I know this is going to sound really annoying.(8:25) I guess I said this to a client once. (8:27) She's like, well, what should I learn? (8:28) And I said, everything.(8:28) She's like, that's terrible. (8:30) That's awful advice. (8:31) And I said, yeah, but you have to start somewhere.(8:35) Right. (8:35) So, so if you're at a house party, don't be at a house party observe. (8:40) Like learn people watch.(8:42) I used to be like, why the hell is she with him? (8:46) He doesn't give a shit about her. (8:49) So maybe there's something to that.(8:50) Okay. (8:50) Why? (8:52) It's that it's, you have to, like, if you had results that I didn't in anything I valued, I would find out how.

Kevin Palmieri

(8:58) Yeah. (8:58) But again, I'm trying to draw the line between what you do and what other people can do. (9:03) But that's the start.(9:04) That's what, that's what you can do. (9:05) You gotta, you gotta be observant for sure. (9:07) I think people are.

Alan Lazaros

(9:08) I think people are observant. (9:09) I do. (9:10) I think most people, they're not studying.(9:12) I think you need to like study humanity and study the economy and study businesses and study each other. (9:17) Like it all. (9:19) Remember when we talked about Mike Tyson, he like studied all the good fighters.(9:22) You have to do that. (9:24) But in life and at the beginning, it's very broad. (9:26) It's okay.(9:28) I'm good at basketball and cross country, but I'm not good at football because I'm tall and lanky. (9:33) Okay, good. (9:33) There's a start.(9:34) You, you just constantly are like finding, it's called product market fit or product service fit in business. (9:42) Like the right person, the right, the right product for the right person in the right amount of pain that solves the right problem for the right price that, but you have to do that in life. (9:51) So if you're naturally good with horses, explore that.(9:57) But how do you know if you're naturally good? (9:59) You look around and you, I did this as a kid. (10:03) Dude, video games for me, I was better than everybody, but isn't it like a, isn't it like a, you're going to hate this.

Kevin Palmieri

(10:09) Isn't it like a feeling like don't, when you know, do you know, do you know logically or do you know emotionally first? (10:21) What do you know?

Alan Lazaros

(10:22) First, I think I was always more head than heart, but both people, people you've worked with like, do they, yeah, it's usually hard first. (10:35) Yeah. (10:35) Most people are more feeling.(10:37) Yeah. (10:38) So what, what do you feel? (10:40) Okay.(10:40) So when you and I are in the gym, I can tell it's your arena, not mine. (10:44) If we run, it's like, I'm going to fucking crush you. (10:47) Like, this is my arena, not yours.(10:48) Right. (10:49) So you can tell, you can, you can tell. (10:52) When Amelia and I were weight training together, it's a perfect example.(10:54) I've, I've used it before. (10:55) It's her arena. (10:57) She's like stronger than every woman in there by far.(11:01) It's not even close. (11:02) And she's not changing the weight much for me. (11:05) And I've been doing this for 11 years straight and I'm a six foot two, almost 200 pound man.(11:10) And she doesn't, she's crushing. (11:12) And then we run together and it's like, oh, this is my arena. (11:15) That's something she's encoded for.(11:16) Yes. (11:17) For sure. (11:18) Absolutely.

Kevin Palmieri

(11:18) Naturally encoding.

Alan Lazaros

(11:19) Yes. (11:19) And, and not running, running. (11:22) It's like, oh, not only are you bad at this, this is like easy peasy.(11:25) Did she know that forever? (11:28) Yeah. (11:29) Because she also is always, is not, maybe that's what this episode should be about.(11:33) Like you, you need to figure out where you fit in the economy. (11:38) You have to figure out where you fit.

Kevin Palmieri

(11:39) No, no, yeah, yeah. (11:41) But in this, the gym example, did she know she, did she know she was strong? (11:48) Yeah.(11:49) As strong?

Alan Lazaros

(11:53) Yeah. (11:53) None of this has surprised her at all. (11:57) But I also know that she's always known, like when she was a fighter, she would like kick everyone's ass, even guys.(12:04) And like, didn't understand why they sucked. (12:06) It's not that she's, they suck. (12:08) She was really good.

Kevin Palmieri

(12:10) That's why I think sometimes, yeah, that's why I think sometimes you get around a group, just a group of people.

Alan Lazaros

(12:20) Yeah. (12:20) And then you're supposed to size up where you fall. (12:22) Well, you see where you fit.(12:23) Not to be mean to others, but to figure out where you fit. (12:25) You see where you fit. (12:26) You must've known that in college.(12:27) You must've been like, why the fuck does everybody suck at this? (12:29) Like, this is easy. (12:30) That was a piece.(12:31) Yeah. (12:31) Yeah.

Kevin Palmieri

(12:32) Right. (12:32) It's like, it just came very naturally to you. (12:35) I also played on all-star teams where it wasn't, there wasn't a ton.(12:40) It was, there was usually like one or two people. (12:42) Who's the baseball player that it was like, I could, they're just the best, like by far the best. (12:52) Matt, Matt, he was the guy for sure.

Alan Lazaros

(12:57) Yeah. (12:57) He was the guy. (12:58) No wonder why he still plays.(13:00) Well, that feeling is really nice. (13:01) It's a really wonderful feeling to feel that empowered. (13:04) Well, he still.(13:05) And you need that. (13:05) He still crushes.

Kevin Palmieri

(13:07) Yeah. (13:07) Of course. (13:07) When I, when him and I chat, it's like, hey, how's baseball, man?(13:09) He's like, ah, four for four with two home runs. (13:11) It's like, yeah, okay, cool, cool, cool, cool. (13:13) Nice.(13:14) Nice. (13:15) Nice.

Alan Lazaros

(13:16) Yeah, we do men in particular, but we tend to go where we feel empowered.

Kevin Palmieri

(13:21) I remember when I first started jujitsu in like 2006, I was really good. (13:28) Like they, they would put me against people who had been doing it for a long time. (13:31) And it was just like, there was, I mean, I stuck with it.(13:35) That's the issue is that, and that's the lesson. (13:37) I had a natural encoding for that. (13:39) For sure.(13:40) When I went back in 2025, I got my ass kicked by almost everybody. (13:46) It had evolved beyond what my natural encoding.

Alan Lazaros

(13:49) That happened to me. (13:50) Could provide. (13:51) Video games.(13:52) I stopped playing. (13:53) Yeah, dude. (13:54) Yeah.(13:55) Oh, I went to a tournament. (13:57) It was like, oh my God, not four years ago. (14:01) I was smoking you guys.(14:03) It hurts. (14:04) And it was so bad. (14:05) I can't believe I went to college.(14:06) That's what I used to say. (14:07) I should have never went to college. (14:09) I'm obviously joking.(14:10) My joke was, I got a girlfriend. (14:12) I went to college. (14:13) He shouldn't have done it because these dudes were smoking me and I was so much better than them before.(14:19) That's why I don't like the, it's like riding a bike. (14:21) No, it's not nothing. (14:22) That's the dumbest shit ever.(14:24) It's like riding a bike. (14:25) If you're like terrible at it. (14:27) There was a time when fishing, I would, I would catch 12 fish in two hours and now I haven't caught a fish in years.(14:35) It's been terrible because you just suck at it. (14:38) Right. (14:39) It's like, are there even fish in this?(14:40) Well, how often do you actually go fishing?

Kevin Palmieri

(14:42) Never, almost never. (14:43) Right. (14:43) But when I do, I never catch anything.(14:45) That might, I think that might be the best example. (14:47) How do you know what you're encoded for? (14:49) You spend time with, with other people that put the same amount of time and energy and effort into what you do and you see what their results are.

Alan Lazaros

(14:56) Yeah, exactly. (14:57) If I can put one hour in and get five X the outcome and you put five hours in and get one fifth the outcome. (15:03) That means it's, it's either you're really bad or I'm really good.(15:06) And you do have to do that. (15:08) People don't like comparison.

Kevin Palmieri

(15:10) You have to. (15:11) How do you know if you're actually encoded? (15:12) We have clients now that like pay me a fair amount of money to like go to them and help them record content and, or just record content as the face of their brand.(15:23) I don't think I was naturally encoded for that. (15:26) I think I've just done it so many times. (15:27) I don't know, man.(15:29) No. (15:29) Yeah.

Alan Lazaros

(15:30) I think you probably, it's probably both. (15:31) How do you know? (15:33) I, that is interesting.(15:34) Um, is the reps. (15:37) Here's how I know. (15:37) I was at Toastmasters last Tuesday and I heard some speeches.(15:40) You are, I normally think you're not very good. (15:44) Like I don't, I don't think you're bad. (15:45) I just don't like, okay, nice fucking strong work.(15:48) But dude, Oh my God. (15:50) I mean, you, you're better than all of them by far.

Kevin Palmieri

(15:52) It's not even close. (15:53) Is that because they aren't encoded? (15:55) Is that because they haven't done as many reps?(15:57) Is it both? (15:58) Is it, is it 70% one 30% the other?

Alan Lazaros

(16:01) That's what you have to separate though. (16:02) I do like that because one of, it's like ideally you'd find, it's called, like I said, product market fit and in, in the art of impossible, Stephen Kotler talks about this. (16:11) We interviewed him four or five years ago.(16:14) The art of impossible is a book that came out in 2019. (16:16) So seven years ago. (16:18) Holy shit.(16:19) And he talks about how the people who wait a little bit longer, he doesn't believe in prodigies. (16:28) Like, okay. (16:29) Kobe Bryant, for example, was awful at basketball when he was 10, 11, 12, didn't score a single point.(16:38) And he started playing the long game. (16:40) Then he became six, seven, like he got the, you suck. (16:45) You're going to have to work harder than everyone else just to be decent.(16:49) And so he did play the long game and he was like trying to be good enough to even score a point to now I'm six, seven. (16:55) And I have the natural gifts too. (16:57) So he got the, it's the talent beats hard work.(17:00) And that's true. (17:01) It just does. (17:02) But what happens when talent works hard?(17:04) That, that's the sweet spot. (17:07) Like, uh, one of my clients has a daughter in, in rodeo and she's crushing everybody. (17:13) And it's like, okay.(17:14) And she loves it too. (17:15) So it's like passion. (17:17) Cause if you don't care about it, you're never going to win.(17:20) Passion is first talent is second, which is encoding. (17:23) We'll call it the encoding for it. (17:24) And then third is like compound effect of how many reps and mastery you can do.(17:28) If you take, if you take something, you're 10 out of 10 obsessed with, you're also encoded for it. (17:34) And you do like a decade of it. (17:39) And the last piece is the economy has to pay for it.(17:41) Like, cause if the economy doesn't pay for it, it doesn't matter. (17:44) I always say, if I spit a cherry pit, 50 yards, no one cares. (17:47) Right.(17:48) And a local fair, local fair, somebody buy a lemonade for sure. (17:51) Well, dude, you know, this globe trotters. (17:54) It's like, listen, I know you can dump from the foul line, but it doesn't matter.(18:00) Cause Michael Jordan is still going to make five or 10 more than you do because you're not very good at the actual game. (18:06) Right. (18:06) And so you have to, and I do get it like life is people say it'll all work out.(18:11) That is the dumbest shit I've ever heard.

Kevin Palmieri

(18:13) Well, you know, I agree with that.

Alan Lazaros

(18:14) It's not going to work out at all. (18:16) You have to make it work out. (18:17) And I know that that sounds depressing, but oh, don't worry.(18:21) It'll all work out. (18:22) Like I get why people say that it's not true at all. (18:25) Like at all, I think it's not going to work out at all.

Kevin Palmieri

(18:28) Some people like the, uh, the illusion of safety.

Alan Lazaros

(18:31) Yeah. (18:32) I mean, at the end of the day, yeah, no, I think that's very bad advice. (18:37) I concur.(18:38) Just sit on your hands. (18:39) It'll all work out. (18:39) Like, no, you have to make it work.(18:41) I understand why, like when something horrible happens, you know, like you'll survive this, like this too shall pass. (18:47) I get it. (18:48) But that's bad advice for anyone who has big goals.(18:52) Yes, I agree with that. (18:53) I agree. (18:54) All right.(18:54) What's your takeaway? (18:56) Uh, find out what you're gifted at. (19:00) Everybody's, everybody's gifted at something.(19:02) Every strength comes with a weakness. (19:03) Every weakness comes with a strength. (19:05) And, and when, when Amelia asked me six years ago, like, do you think I should be a coach?(19:11) And I said, abso-fucking-lutely, absolutely. (19:16) You're already coaching all your friends. (19:18) You're doing it for free.(19:19) You'd be unbelievable. (19:21) And there are certain people where I think they would be a terrible coach. (19:23) So you have to figure out, and now she's coaching 25 people.(19:28) She's winning. (19:29) It's very successful. (19:30) Right.(19:30) Just getting started too. (19:32) Like she only started six years ago. (19:33) Can you imagine if she started 16 years ago?(19:36) Whoa. (19:37) Right. (19:37) Like find that shit faster.(19:39) But again, hindsight's 20, 20. (19:41) So yeah, find what you're encoded for, but it has to be in alignment with what the economy pays for. (19:45) And it has to be in alignment with your interests.(19:48) You have to be somewhat obsessed with it. (19:50) If someone's obsessed with it and talented at it, you're going to get crushed.

Kevin Palmieri

(19:54) I would say get around people and compare. (19:57) It's not to make them feel bad. (19:59) Like you're not talking shit about somebody.(20:00) If you're better at like, just compare. (20:02) I think that's very important because you'll realize where you sit in the pecking order. (20:05) And then if you are passionate about it, you're like, oh, I'm actually pretty good at this.(20:08) You're probably gonna get further than somebody else. (20:10) And who knows what your life could be. (20:13) You could be a podcaster that talks on the internet.(20:17) That's what happened to me. (20:18) It's weird. (20:18) All right.(20:19) If you're looking to figure out what your encoding is, your natural inclination, what you could be really good at, what you're already naturally really good at, and you want somebody to help you figure out how to maximize that, reach out to Alan. (20:28) He can help you. (20:29) And if one of the things you aren't necessarily encoded with is fitness skills, the understanding of nutrition, all that happy jazz, the accountability, the discipline, we have a next level fitness accountability group, new 10 pound and 10 week challenge starting on July 1st.(20:42) We'd love to have you if you're a good person. (20:45) If you're a shithead, find another group. (20:48) As always, we love you.(20:49) We appreciate you. (20:50) Grateful for each and every one of you. (20:51) If you are as committed as you say you are to getting to the next level, make sure you tune in tomorrow because we'll be here every single day to help you get there.

Alan Lazaros

(20:57) Keep leveling up to reach your full potential. (20:59) Next Level Nation.

Kevin Palmieri

(21:01) Thanks for joining us for another episode of Next Level University. (21:05) We love connecting with the Next Level family.

Alan Lazaros

(21:08) We mean it when we say family. (21:09) If you ever need anything, please reach out to us directly. (21:13) Everything you need to get ahold of us is in the show notes.(21:17) Thank you again, and we will talk to you tomorrow.