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In this episode of Next Level University, hosts Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros unpack dig into why goals often change when other people are watching. What sounds impressive in public may not match what you would choose in private, and that gap reveals a lot. Using their recent 10-pound-in-10-weeks challenge, Kevin and Alan break down public pressure, realistic goal-setting, consistency, and accurate thinking.

They explain why realistic goals are not weak goals, and how repeated overreaching can quietly damage self-belief. This conversation is for anyone serious about personal development, fitness goals, accountability, and building confidence through goals they can actually follow through on.

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Show notes:
(3:02) The real math behind goal achievement
(7:25) Why every goal has a formula
(11:30) Private goals Vs. Public goals
(18:52) Why realistic goals build self-belief
(19:47) Social flex goals Vs. Real goals
(23:09) Finding mentors with real credibility
(25:48) Outro

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Transcript

Kevin Palmieri

(0:00) I think one of the hard things about setting goals around other people is the subconscious and unconscious and maybe not even real peer pressure that comes with it. (0:12) If you would set a certain goal in private but a certain goal completely different than that goal in public, I would ask why. (0:19) Is it because you think you'll get judged if you have a smaller goal?

Alan Lazaros

(0:22) Like what is the thought process going into that because you are most likely self-sabotaging without even knowing Some people are afraid to share their goals because they're too big and they feel like people aren't going to get it or they're going to be misunderstood or judged. (0:38) Some people are afraid to share their goals because they're too small.

Kevin Palmieri

(0:40) Welcome to Next Level University. (0:43) I'm your host Kevin Palmieri and I'm your co-host Alan Lazaros. (0:48) At NLU we believe in a heart-driven but no BS approach to holistic self-improvement for dream chasers.

Alan Lazaros

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Kevin Palmieri

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Alan Lazaros

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Kevin Palmieri

(1:29) Next Level Nation today for episode number 2,482. (1:33) How do your goals change in public? (1:38) You'll like this because you always like when we talk about this.(1:41) There have been a few times where Alan and I have gone to events and or masterminds and when people are like, hey what are your goals for this year? (1:47) I almost will never tell them and the reason is, I'll tell you behind the scenes if you want to reach out. (1:53) I'm happy to tell you my goals.(1:54) It's not that I'm afraid of them. (1:55) It's none of that. (1:56) It's more the fact that I know they're going to most likely lead me in the wrong direction.(2:00) That's one of the reasons I am usually pretty private about my goals. (2:05) Now you hear them here but like when I tell, if you're in my life and I tell you my goal, I'm not telling you my goal because I'm looking for strategy. (2:17) I'm telling you my goal because you asked, not because I'm expecting you to help me get there.(2:21) I'm not saying you can't. (2:22) I'm not saying you can't but I've had too many times where somebody has been like, hey what are you trying to accomplish? (2:26) And I tell them it's like, oh have you ever thought of, it's like, oh no I've never thought of sales ever.(2:30) I don't even know what that is. (2:32) What language is that? (2:34) Or no I've never even thought of this.(2:35) Like no I or yes yeah no we've been doing that for I don't know nine years. (2:40) I've been doing it for a long time. (2:41) Like I understand that's how it works.(2:43) That's one piece of it. (2:44) But the reason we were doing this episode, we decided to do this in the first place, is because of the 10 pound in 10 week challenge. (2:49) Which I know you're probably sick of hearing us talk about but we're going to, you know, it's the jam.(2:53) It's the best thing in the world. (2:54) Go into that.

Alan Lazaros

(2:56) All right so I've done fitness for 11 years. (3:06) Fitness coach, fitness competitor, a fitness model. (3:13) And I've seen, I've studied fitness very, very, very deeply.(3:19) I don't know how else to put it. (3:21) It doesn't matter. (3:22) Okay why are you saying all that?(3:23) Set the stage. (3:25) There are certain tells that indicate that someone probably won't be successful, unfortunately. (3:34) And I could be wrong.(3:36) I hold the humility that I could be wrong. (3:39) And I would hope that I'm wrong actually. (3:42) But there's certain newbie tells.(3:49) And I'm going to say newbie in a kind way because we've all been there. (3:52) We've all been new at one point. (3:57) A 10 pound in 10 week challenge requires a 500 calorie deficit for 70 days straight on average.(4:03) On average. (4:05) That's not simple. (4:07) It is simple.(4:08) It's not easy. (4:09) It's very hard to do. (4:10) Okay now for some people it's not that hard to do quite frankly right.(4:14) I mean I'm going to have to put less peanut butter cups in my yogurt. (4:17) Like I'm going to be fine. (4:18) It's going to work.(4:22) You and I had 28 people sign up for the 10 pound in 10 week challenge that we did earlier this year. (4:29) How many people do you believe achieved their goal? (4:33) Two.(4:34) Just you and I. (4:35) All right now why that is what two out of 28. (4:42) So you're looking at six percent.

Kevin Palmieri

(4:46) Yeah probably.

Alan Lazaros

(4:47) A little more than six percent. (4:50) Yeah let me do the actual math. (4:54) And two divided by 28 times 100.

Kevin Palmieri

(5:02) I don't know how to do this. (5:03) Like when you do 7.14 percent. (5:06) I don't know how to divide by what multiply by 100.

Alan Lazaros

(5:11) That two people did it and then you multiply by 100. (5:15) So 7.14. The reason I got six percent is we don't have to go into it. (5:18) Anyways seven percent.(5:21) Okay seven percent of people. (5:23) Now you hit your goal early. (5:26) I hit my goal at 11 30 p.m eastern standard time on the day when weigh-ins were due at midnight. (5:35) I hit it early. (5:36) You hit it as late as humanly possible. (5:38) That's that's it.(5:38) That is it right there. (5:40) That is it right there. (5:41) Now the truth of the matter is.(5:43) So I have a client who is getting certified. (5:47) I actually have three clients that are getting certified in different licenses. (5:51) I have a tracker of how many times he's taken the test and his scores over time.(5:55) I know you're listening brother. (5:56) And I told him you will pass the test on this attempt based on the statistical probability. (6:03) And he's like well I don't want to wait that long.(6:05) I want to pass it next time. (6:06) And it's like okay well the data shows you're going to pass it on your ninth time or whatever it is. (6:11) And good for you for perseverance by the way.(6:13) Unbelievable. (6:14) The truth of the matter is is that I'm always reverse engineering that based on the past data. (6:20) So I can hit the.(6:22) It's like a plane that takes off and can hit the exact runway in Missouri that Kevin needs. (6:27) There's a barometer that shows how far the plane is off all throughout the journey. (6:32) That is what peak performance tracking is designed to do.(6:37) And I can see the trend line in my head. (6:39) And I can see that I'm off or on track all throughout. (6:42) And so throughout the 10 pound and 10 week challenge I knew that I could hit weight the night of.(6:52) And we did next level live that day. (6:54) And you knew you me and Amy were together. (6:56) And I purposely only ate a poke bowl.(7:00) Both days I had like 1200 calories each and I didn't drink much water. (7:04) And then I ran a 5K that night. (7:06) And then I weighed in.(7:08) I just knew that I could hit. (7:10) So I was 199.6. I needed to get sub 200. (7:15) I think it was actually 201.(7:16) So I think I was 1.4 pounds lower than I needed to be. (7:19) But that was just because I was like fuck it. (7:21) Let's keep going on the run.(7:23) My point of this is not to talk about me. (7:25) My point of this is that whether you like it or not whether you think it or not there is a mathematical formula to every goal. (7:34) And you are either on track or off track at all times.(7:37) And the point of this episode is I saw people already trying to increase the goal. (7:41) 10 pounds in 10 weeks is already a challenge. (7:42) Like a pretty hefty challenge.(7:44) And there's a few people that are going for 13 pounds, 17 pounds, whatever. (7:47) And I just had this moment and I know some of you might be listening. (7:50) Where it's like I don't know.(7:53) Is that intelligent? (7:54) Some people, one person, Eugene shout out to you brother. (7:58) I saw he's already ripped.(8:00) He's already in great shape. (8:01) And he's like you know what I'm gonna go for 5 pounds instead of 10. (8:03) He's gonna hit.(8:04) How certain are you he's gonna hit his goal?

Kevin Palmieri

(8:08) 9.9 Eugene. (8:10) I can't give you a 10 because nothing is final but 9.9. Okay.

Alan Lazaros

(8:14) What about the person who's shooting for 13 pounds instead of 10? (8:17) What do you honestly, now I hope we're wrong. (8:19) We're not trying to crap on anybody.(8:21) Of course. (8:21) We love you guys. (8:22) But I wouldn't bet on that person.

Kevin Palmieri

(8:24) That's my truth. (8:26) How many times have they done something like this in the past? (8:29) I haven't seen the message I don't think.(8:31) So this is based on. (8:34) I would say this. (8:36) The probability decreases exponentially based on the amount of times this person has done it.

Alan Lazaros

(8:42) And how big the goal is in the timeline. (8:46) Now if I said 13 pounds in 13 weeks the probability goes up. (8:50) Yeah but like I could do 13 in 10 weeks.

Kevin Palmieri

(8:53) Of course. (8:54) So that's what I'm saying.

Alan Lazaros

(8:55) That's the irony. (8:55) You probably wouldn't shoot for that. (8:59) I'm factoring in how bad it's gonna suck.(9:02) Why would you shoot for that? (9:03) It's not even optimal because you're gonna lose muscle mass. (9:06) Yeah well.(9:07) A pound a week is already excessive. (9:08) You know I don't.

Kevin Palmieri

(9:09) It's not about whether it's optimal necessarily.

Alan Lazaros

(9:14) I think that it's fascinating how the person who's the most competent is shooting for 5 pounds. (9:20) And someone who I think is fairly new to this endeavor is shooting for 13. (9:25) Well I think that's the.(9:26) There's a tell. (9:27) There's just a tell. (9:28) And I hope everyone wins.(9:29) Like I really don't want this to come off wrong and be disrespectful. (9:32) But I do need to be honest. (9:35) I would bet on the person.(9:36) I would bet on Eugene. (9:37) I would bet on Eugene. (9:39) Why?(9:40) Because he's humble as hell with the goal. (9:43) And I think that humility is like yo. (9:47) I'm going to set a goal that's very tangible.(9:51) And the point of this episode is. (9:53) And I think this is happening to people all the time. (9:56) It's 5 pounds in 10 weeks just doesn't sound cool.

Kevin Palmieri

(9:59) I think you're missing it a little bit though. (10:00) Because we didn't in the beginning start with a disclaimer of hey we recommend 10 pounds in 10 weeks because of this is the math. (10:06) This is this.(10:07) This is the science. (10:08) This is the way it works and this is how much it's gonna. (10:10) I think some of it is just lack of awareness.(10:12) Yeah but why shoot for 13? (10:15) That's because that's the goal they want to hit. (10:18) But I think that that's.(10:20) Because why why shoot for 10? (10:22) If you don't know why we're shooting for 10. (10:25) That's fair.(10:25) That. (10:26) That's fair. (10:26) And again it's not optimal.(10:28) I don't think it's. (10:29) I'm not saying.

Alan Lazaros

(10:30) Yeah but you're also the one who who says like aim low and hit versus aim high and miss.

Kevin Palmieri

(10:37) Yeah but all I'm saying in this is I just don't. (10:40) What if there's a lack of awareness I think A maybe we didn't explain it well. (10:46) Agreed.(10:47) Right that's all. (10:48) That's you in the first place.

Alan Lazaros

(10:49) And that's also one of the things that frustrates me. (10:51) It's like I wish that I had told everyone you should really not shoot for more than 10. (10:57) Like more than 10 is not only reckless it's actually not good.

Kevin Palmieri

(11:00) Well when you do when you do like. (11:03) I use macro factor for my calories. (11:07) I have no affiliation.(11:07) I just it's a good app. (11:08) When you go in there and if you want it to help you accomplish the goal it'll say do you want to do. (11:15) It's like half pound a week quarter.(11:18) Yeah but it has labels. (11:20) It's like healthy moderate extreme. (11:23) Extreme.(11:24) Yeah. (11:24) You can do it. (11:24) You want to do the extreme.(11:25) You want to lose two pounds a week. (11:27) It's you can do it. (11:27) It's extreme and not recommended.(11:30) That's in my mind and to the point of this episode I wonder if that same goal would be private like it is public. (11:40) That's exactly it.

Alan Lazaros

(11:41) Yeah. (11:41) Because I was wondering like why do that and I think it doesn't sound exciting enough. (11:48) Like 10 pounds in 10 weeks might not be as I'll use five pounds in 10 weeks like what Eugene is doing.(11:54) Shout out to Eugene. (11:55) Is not you're not going to brag to your friends like hey man brother you won't believe what I accomplished last quarter. (12:01) I lost five fucking pounds.(12:04) Everyone's gonna be like oh sweet. (12:07) Like good for you. (12:07) But that's my point of the episode.(12:09) Like dude you know I went from you should be pumped about getting three new clients. (12:17) There's something off about this whole thing.

Kevin Palmieri

(12:19) Well and the other thing is like would you what if the opposite what if the other choice is you don't get to celebrate anything. (12:29) Like wouldn't you rather the five pounds.

Alan Lazaros

(12:31) I know.

Kevin Palmieri

(12:32) Then setting a bigger goal not accomplishing it and then not telling anybody out of shame.

Alan Lazaros

(12:36) I never thought I'd be the one advocating for smaller goals on the macro when it comes to dreams. (12:40) I'm all for shooting aiming high aim high but on a quarterly basis which is what this is 10 weeks is almost a quarter. (12:50) Remember when we interviewed a guy named Justin and he wanted to gain 25 pounds of muscle in one year and you and I behind the scenes said I basically came to you and I was like he's a newbie and you're like you're like what do you mean and I said I said brother 25 pounds and you're like I know.(13:07) 25 pounds of muscle in one year not a fucking chance.

Kevin Palmieri

(13:12) No not a chance.

Alan Lazaros

(13:13) Now why do we know that? (13:18) How do we even explain how we know that that's not going to happen? (13:21) Like Arnold doesn't do that even with steroids.

Kevin Palmieri

(13:23) Well that there you go if you if if one of the actors or actresses you follow say they did it you can assume it's not possible.

Alan Lazaros

(13:33) Dude this is what bothers me so much because the internet is so full of it dude. (13:38) How how is anyone supposed to succeed if nobody's honest about how they did it?

Kevin Palmieri

(13:46) I don't know. (13:47) I don't know and again I don't want I'm not I don't want this to be like a cop-out. (13:50) I don't think it's a good goal.(13:52) I think that's a dangerous a dangerous goal depending on how long this person has been doing it. (13:56) They haven't been doing it for as long as me.

Alan Lazaros

(13:57) No no from my understanding I don't think that this is a fitness fanatic by any means. (14:01) So so I think it's a I think that's a dangerous goal. (14:05) And whatever you do you like I'm not going to tell you what to do but I do want to have this discussion of like what is an optimal goal?(14:14) The one that you're going to hit can hit. (14:18) Yeah the one that you can hit.

Kevin Palmieri

(14:20) Unless you're doing it for the growth and if you're doing it for the growth I don't fucking know what to tell you. (14:24) I don't I have no idea because I'm not doing this.

Alan Lazaros

(14:27) How did you deal with my ridiculous goals? (14:30) Because I was always aiming way higher but I didn't realize like how bad of a leading by example that was. (14:39) I was a part of this problem 100 percent.

Kevin Palmieri

(14:41) Oh yeah.

Alan Lazaros

(14:42) I wasn't saying 25 pounds of muscle in one year but I said millionaire by 30 billionaire by 60. (14:48) I intend on that but that I don't I don't think that everyone should do that.

Kevin Palmieri

(14:56) Well and think of how many people weren't there people that shit on you on your 30th birthday?

Alan Lazaros

(15:00) Yeah. (15:01) Like dude that's the fucking example. (15:03) It's actually what they didn't know is I turned out a million dollars not fucking a week and a half before that.(15:08) Yeah someone reached out hey I know you really wanted to it's like dude. (15:12) Yeah.

Kevin Palmieri

(15:13) Oh thank you.

Alan Lazaros

(15:14) What a backhanded compliment.

Kevin Palmieri

(15:15) Yeah yeah yeah. (15:16) I know you must be going through it right now because you're a massive fucking loser. (15:20) I've been always been rooting for you brother.

Alan Lazaros

(15:23) I wonder I doubt I had the courage to say it but I probably should have said I literally turned down a million dollars a week and a half ago you know and I chose to do that instead of hitting the goal.

Kevin Palmieri

(15:32) Yeah you don't say that.

Alan Lazaros

(15:33) Who does that though? (15:35) Like who chooses not to hit the goal? (15:37) You don't say that to those people because that doesn't matter.(15:39) It's dude if anything. (15:40) But I also should have said something you know.

Kevin Palmieri

(15:42) That's fair.

Alan Lazaros

(15:43) I should have been like what you know.

Kevin Palmieri

(15:45) Or just don't be friends with those people.

Alan Lazaros

(15:48) That's probably the best answer.

Kevin Palmieri

(15:48) That's cool.

Alan Lazaros

(15:49) I think that's the answer. (15:50) Why would I turn that down because my goal isn't just to hit the million dollars it's to do it on my own terms and not have anyone else's hands in my cookie jar. (16:00) But no one's and you said this to me back then you're like dude no one's gonna believe that you turned down a million dollars and it's like but because in their mind why would you turn that down because I don't want someone else owning my company.

Kevin Palmieri

(16:12) Well but that's the you don't nobody tells people the why's underneath the goal. (16:18) Just tell them the goal. (16:19) Want to be a million by 30.

Alan Lazaros

(16:20) That's why no one knows beneath the iceberg and that's why no one's successful. (16:23) Right it's like it's the steroids thing all over again. (16:28) It's like you're not going to look like Arnold Schwarzenegger without steroids.(16:31) It's not even possible. (16:32) Yeah no it's not gonna happen. (16:33) It's not even possible.(16:35) But he doesn't talk about it so no one really knows you know it's just weird. (16:39) The whole thing's kind of it makes me very sad. (16:43) It does it makes me sad and the other thing too and this is the rabbit hole it goes deeper.(16:47) People like oh you know so and so is a billionaire and it's like they own a percentage of a company that's worth 10 billion. (16:55) If they own 10 percent of a company that's worth 10 billion they are a billionaire quote unquote. (17:00) I'm putting it in quotes.(17:00) They don't have a billion dollars but nobody not nobody but very few people actually know that. (17:06) So it's like do you just think these people like are just like hoarding money? (17:10) Like they own a percentage of a company and unless they sell the company there is no money.(17:15) You know what I mean? (17:16) Like the I don't know Walmart was the most revenue in the entire world last year 2025. (17:23) I think it was Walmart or Amazon might have been Amazon.(17:25) But it's like they don't have that money. (17:27) They you know they made 544 billion and they spent you know 540 billion right. (17:35) But dude if you don't learn that you just assume.(17:38) I guess you you're not going to become a billionaire unless you learn that.

Kevin Palmieri

(17:43) Well how many people want to be a billionaire? (17:44) That's the thing. (17:45) It's like that's why most people don't learn.

Alan Lazaros

(17:46) But a lot of people say it brother. (17:47) A lot of people have said it to me like hey I want to be a billionaire. (17:50) It's like it turns out you don't actually know how to do that.

Kevin Palmieri

(17:52) Yeah yeah right so. (17:54) All right to the point so to the point of this. (17:56) Number one how do your goals change in public versus private?(18:00) Yeah. (18:00) That's one. (18:02) I think that's an important thing to understand.(18:05) And then number two. (18:06) I mean even how how much awareness do you have about what the process will actually have to be? (18:16) Because if you don't have a ton of awareness you're kind of setting yourself up.(18:19) You're setting yourself up for something that might not be positive right. (18:24) Like Eugene most likely. (18:27) Yeah he's gonna crush five pounds.

Alan Lazaros

(18:29) He could probably do seven. (18:31) Of course he probably could do seven. (18:33) 20 that's the irony.(18:34) He could do 20 and he won't do 20 because he knows better. (18:37) Like that's the interesting thing.

Kevin Palmieri

(18:42) But that is somebody who has a lot of a lot of shout outs for Eugene in today's episode. (18:47) That is somebody who has a lot of awareness in this.

Alan Lazaros

(18:50) Exactly.

Kevin Palmieri

(18:50) That's great. (18:52) I am always of the mind that you shoot small and hit always. (18:57) But small is relative based on your awareness of what you're actually trying to do.(19:02) That if you've never been to the gym you don't know what a 10 pound dumbbell feels like. (19:07) You have no idea. (19:08) You know you have no clue.(19:10) You don't. (19:11) I did legs the other day. (19:12) I worked up to 275.(19:14) 275 is not good for me. (19:15) It's not a good squat.

Alan Lazaros

(19:16) Yeah.

Kevin Palmieri

(19:17) It's not it's not my that's not good for me. (19:19) That's great for somebody else. (19:20) If you're just starting and you squat 275 you're the best.

Alan Lazaros

(19:23) That's awesome.

Kevin Palmieri

(19:24) That's awesome. (19:25) Yeah right. (19:26) So like I think the context around goals is something that almost nobody talks about.(19:30) Nobody talks about how many layers. (19:34) The only way to set the optimal way to set a goal is to understand all the things that go into the goal. (19:41) But you can't really until you start.(19:43) It's a it's weird. (19:44) It's a whole thing. (19:45) It's a whole thing.

Alan Lazaros

(19:47) So what is the land the plane on this? (19:52) If you're setting a goal for a social flex you are not going to achieve it. (19:58) Your chances of achieving a social flex are so low.(20:02) And I realize in hindsight a lot of people thought I was doing that for a social flex. (20:08) You want to know how I know Amelia's goals are real? (20:10) She was shaking when she told me.(20:12) She didn't want to tell me. (20:14) I don't like when people ask about my goals. (20:16) They say what's next for you at NLU?(20:18) It's like oh please don't ask me that. (20:20) Please don't ask me that. (20:22) Because they're just going to look at me like I have eight heads.(20:24) I don't I'm not interested.

Kevin Palmieri

(20:25) I say same shit. (20:27) Yeah same shit. (20:29) Just a little better.

Alan Lazaros

(20:31) So if someone is reluctant to tell you their goals they're probably very real. (20:38) If they're excited and pumped to tell you how much weight they're going to lose they're most likely a social flex that might not happen. (20:46) And of course there's exceptions.(20:48) But what I've found is the people who's who are really going to achieve their goals like with the highest probability from coaching. (20:55) Because I coach behind the scenes and so I see their social media too. (20:58) I see the social media and behind the scenes.(21:00) There is a correlation. (21:02) People who don't want to share how big their goals are. (21:05) Those are people that have really big goals.(21:08) People who are pumped to share their big goals usually are probably doing it for more of a social flex or a status thing or something. (21:19) And it's like well Alan why did you do it? (21:20) I thought I was encouraging potential and dreams and goal chasing.(21:24) I was naive. (21:25) I was naive. (21:26) Now I don't want to share it at all.(21:28) Have you noticed that? (21:29) I'm like reluctant now. (21:30) I don't even want to.(21:32) But I think that's how everybody starts. (21:33) I think everybody starts naive. (21:34) Not everybody.(21:35) I think most people start naive. (21:36) But I think some people who are doing it for a social flex they want to share their goals. (21:41) I wanted to share my goals because I thought it would inspire other people to have goals.(21:44) So I think having goals is critical. (21:47) I think private goals that you set that you really intend on behind the scenes make sure you start there and then try to bring those into public if you want to for public accountability. (22:00) But at the end of the day if you're super pumped like I'm going to lose 25 pounds or I'm going to gain 25 pounds of muscle this year.(22:05) It's like a lot of that is just not real. (22:08) And it's not helping you either. (22:09) You're losing self-respect and self-belief every time you set a huge goal and miss.(22:17) I would much rather you set a real goal in real life and then hit unless you have ridiculous amounts of self-belief. (22:25) Aim too high you'll get humble pie. (22:27) That's what I've always tried to do with myself.(22:29) Aim too low you won't grow. (22:32) So they have to be big enough to matter small enough to hit.

Kevin Palmieri

(22:39) Give me a 15 second answer on this and then we'll go. (22:41) I know we have to go. (22:42) I know we're way over.(22:45) Outside of googling it because there are certain things you can google like hey what's a healthy amount of weight even that you're not going to get a good answer. (22:53) Well it depends. (22:54) It depends on how much you weigh currently.(22:56) It just depends. (22:57) You're never going to get a straight answer. (22:58) You can't even just say like hey I would like to grow a six-figure business over the next 10 years.(23:03) What is my strategy? (23:05) Well there's a million. (23:07) There's a million strategies.

Alan Lazaros

(23:09) I have an answer. (23:10) Find someone who you think is the least full of shit. (23:13) Dude if you get a coach or a mentor or a therapist.(23:17) If you're out there watching or listening and get a coach mentor or therapist or all three. (23:21) Find the least full of shit person who has actually done it.

Kevin Palmieri

(23:25) Probably the least flashy one.

Alan Lazaros

(23:27) Most likely.

Kevin Palmieri

(23:29) I was talking to somebody today and he was explaining to me how like well I only have coffee in the morning and I only have this and I like have this every day and it's like it's supposed to help with this and this and this and he's like if you heard of the guy and he told me I was like oh yeah fucking yeah yeah that guy's a fraud yeah of course I've heard of him he's fucking fraud. (23:47) I he's he's not like a doctor or anything right I was like no definitely not no and if he is he's a chiropractor probably he's not a fucking medical doctor by any stretch of the imagination. (23:58) No he's a fraud he's a fraud but he's flashy.(24:01) We like flashy shit we love flashy shit as humans.

Alan Lazaros

(24:05) Least full of shit I really really like find mentors and coaches and guides who are the least BS. (24:14) Like just fundamentals that's why I love Jim Collins books they're super boring.

Kevin Palmieri

(24:20) Yeah they're good though.

Alan Lazaros

(24:21) He's not full of it dude he's not he's like very and same with Dan Heath. (24:26) The books I recommend are the least BS. (24:31) The Art of Impossible by Steven Kotler that is such a sound fucking book it starts off with hey this is gonna be awful you're gonna try to do something that's never been done the art of impossible like put this book down if you don't want the next decade to suck horribly.(24:46) It's like thank you so much instead of this like six minute abs and like shiny marketing gimmickry it's it's I love honest books dude. (24:55) They're my fave.

Kevin Palmieri

(24:57) All right if you love honest books with cool people Next Level Book Club every single Saturday uh it's not the same time all the time now right? (25:05) It's at 1 p.m. It's at 1 p.m. all the time every time? (25:08) No most times most times at 1 p.m. on Saturday.

Alan Lazaros

(25:11) Peak. (25:12) Peak. (25:12) You want to talk about a book that's not full of it?(25:15) This is good stuff right here. (25:16) Peak. (25:17) Peak.

Kevin Palmieri

(25:18) Good book. (25:18) Good book. (25:19) And then Next Level Fitness Calibrated Group.(25:21) We're not so again we're already running the 10 pounds in 10 week challenge but if you're somebody who wants to be more consistent in the gym you want to have extra accountability you want to have a group of people. (25:31) We all like to have a tribe doing things that we're doing and we're in there every single day. (25:35) I posted in there today my walk from my hotel room to the elevator and talked about how the gym was closed.(25:40) I didn't lift today. (25:41) I didn't get my exercise in today but I'm still in the group right? (25:43) I'm gonna be in the group every day.(25:44) Alan's in the group every day. (25:45) We have a bunch of people in the group every day so reach out to Alan or myself. (25:48) We'll let you in as always.(25:49) We love you. (25:50) Appreciate you. (25:50) Grateful for each and every one of you.(25:51) If you are as committed as you say you are to getting to the next level make sure you tune in tomorrow because we'll be here every single day to help you get there. (25:58) Keep leveling up to reach your full potential. (26:01) Thanks for joining us for another episode of Next Level University.(26:05) We love connecting with the Next Level family.

Alan Lazaros

(26:07) We mean it when we say family. (26:10) If you ever need anything please reach out to us directly. (26:13) Everything you need to get a hold of us is in the show notes.

Kevin Palmieri

(26:16) Thank you again and we will talk to you tomorrow.