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The Mindset Changes Long Before The Results Do (2486)

Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros

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What looks sudden was built in silence. In this episode, Kevin and Alan examine why mindset often changes long before results show up. They talk through the hard middle between belief, behavior, and proof, where most people start to question the process.

Through business, fitness, identity, and long-term consistency, they show why results are usually the last thing to arrive. The real work is learning to trust the causes before the outcome is obvious. Better standards. Better habits. Better measurement. Repeated action over time. Choose the cause today, then stay long enough for the proof.

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Show notes:
(2:17) The mindset changes first
(4:58) The standard behind elite performance
(7:08) Giving up before results appear
(11:27) Results come last
(13:49) Focus on causes, not effects
(15:24) Fitness, math, and consistency
(19:49) Principles only work when repeated
(22:03) Reverse engineering the result
(25:42) Outro

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Kevin Palmieri

(0:00) The thing that is really confusing about success is I essentially think many of the same exact things that I thought of five years ago. (0:09) And obviously there's nuances and obviously there's differences, yes, but the principles are pretty much exactly the same and I'm getting way more results with the same level of thinking and it's blowing my mind because the mindset that I have has been around for three to five years but the results are just starting to happen. (0:27) And why is it set up that way?

Alan Lazaros

(0:30) The compound effect doesn't work unless you do the principle repeatedly for long enough and that long enough is so much longer than most people think it is. (0:45) Welcome to Next Level University.

Kevin Palmieri

(0:48) I'm your host, Kevin Palmieri. (0:50) And I'm your co-host, Alan Lazaros. (0:53) At NLU, we believe in a heart-driven but no BS approach to holistic self-improvement for dream chasers.

Alan Lazaros

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Kevin Palmieri

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Alan Lazaros

(1:22) Self-improvement in your pocket every day, from anywhere, completely free. (1:28) Welcome to Next Level University.

Kevin Palmieri

(1:34) Next Level Nation, today for episode number 2486, the mindset changes long before the results do. (1:41) I believe this is probably the reason success seems impossible, if you feel that out there, but feels impossible to many people. (1:53) Because essentially, you spend however long trying to reformulate this new mindset of a growth mindset of whatever it is, right?(2:01) Whatever you're, whatever we're talking about for a mindset shift.

Alan Lazaros

(2:04) Can you give us one? (2:04) What's yours? (2:05) What's the one that made you want to do this episode?(2:07) The specific mindset, if blank, then blank.

Kevin Palmieri

(2:15) Jeez. (2:17) Do what's best for the person and things will happen. (2:22) Either they'll happen or they won't happen.(2:24) Like that is my belief, is like just do what's best for the client. (2:28) Imagine you read a book. (2:29) That's what I'm saying.(2:30) That's the title. (2:30) But like, one, you can't go all in on that. (2:34) But like, I'd like to be so fucking balanced and centered and transcendent that I can go in have I always done what's best for the client?(2:43) Yeah, dude. (2:43) Yeah, man. (2:44) To a fucking detriment at times.(2:46) Somebody will ask for something. (2:47) It's like, that's going to cost us more money. (2:49) Fuck it.(2:49) Whatever. (2:49) Don't worry about it. (2:50) Yep.(2:50) We got you. (2:51) Nice. (2:52) That mindset shift has always been like, I want to do what's right for the client, regardless of me.(2:57) You got to be careful with that. (2:59) That's one. (3:00) That's probably not the best example for this, but like, I don't know.(3:03) I don't know what the specific one was. (3:04) It was just, it's just weird that things are working when I'm not doing anything different, doing the same exact shit I've been doing same shit, but things are happening and I can see why it fucks with people.

Alan Lazaros

(3:17) Yeah.

Kevin Palmieri

(3:17) And now it's like, I'm, am I worried less? (3:20) No, I'm actually worried more, but like, it feels more constructive to be worried because I'm not worrying about lack. (3:26) I'm worrying about opportunities.(3:27) So like when somebody says I wouldn't have worried as much, I think what they're trying to say is I would have worried differently. (3:36) I would have worried differently and I just would have kept doing it. (3:39) And as a by-product of me doing it, things would have started to happen.(3:43) Most likely. (3:43) I think you're giving them a little too much credit.

Alan Lazaros

(3:45) I probably am.

Kevin Palmieri

(3:46) I probably am.

Alan Lazaros

(3:47) Um, sometimes I wonder, I mean, we have a podcast about this, so we're probably a little more intentional than the majority of people who, because a lot of this is subconscious and unconscious. (3:59) So I don't know how many interviews you've watched of, of really successful people at the top of their industry. (4:06) And you can tell that they haven't really thought a ton about why they ended up successful.(4:14) Sometimes they have like a, an example of someone who has thought a lot about it is like a Kobe Bryant, regardless of whether you like them. (4:23) That's just an example. (4:24) He very clearly has answers that are like, this is what I decided to do since I was 13.(4:30) And if I wake up at four, get two hours and then rest, I can do four days and I can get more done. (4:35) Like he crunches the whole thing, the math of it. (4:38) Other people are like, yeah, I, you know, work hard, show up on time, fucking get it done.

Kevin Palmieri

(4:42) You think that's what they really think? (4:44) Or if you got them behind the scenes, they'd give you like, what, what is the most hardcore version you would share publicly to put you on the spot?

Alan Lazaros

(4:58) Uh, okay. (4:58) Here's one that won't resonate. (5:04) Not being the best on earth has to be on fucking acceptable.(5:10) Like you have to consider yourself a massive fucking failure. (5:13) If you aren't the best on earth at what you do. (5:17) And that's one that just won't land for anyone basically.(5:21) But that's what I actually think now. (5:25) Are there nuances underneath that? (5:27) Of course.(5:29) Like, I don't, I'm not, I'm not, I don't wake up in the morning like Alan, you're a massive failure. (5:32) You're the worst. (5:33) It's no, it's, it's, it's un, it's a must to do all I can with all I have in this direction.(5:41) Like my one thing is peak performance and peak performance coaching, helping people reach their full potential, reaching my own, that I'm going to be the best in the world at that. (5:49) Even if no one else knows it, I'm going to be the best. (5:52) Like this bothers me that, uh, your wife hasn't sent me all those textbooks yet.(5:58) Uh, yeah. (5:59) So I think about it. (6:01) You and I were reading, uh, you don't know that I was, but I started reading neuro habits again to the book that I sent you.(6:08) And I'm like, behavior change, getting people to change their behavior. (6:13) I'm going to be the best on earth at that. (6:15) And no one else cares and no one else even needs to know.(6:18) But that's one thing I would share that, that you have to almost commit to that at the expense of whatever it takes, except for my relationship with Amelia, but genuinely I will, I will do whatever it takes other than that. (6:31) Basically. (6:32) Yeah.(6:33) And, and there's no reason why I would have to, that would hurt Amelia because my relationship with Amelia is predicated on being the best version of myself anyway. (6:40) So, but I digress that.

Kevin Palmieri

(6:43) So that's, that's good though, because that's a really good example. (6:46) The whole, you have to give up to go up, give up to grow up, but yeah, grow up. (6:51) Isn't it originally go up?(6:53) Probably. (6:53) Okay. (6:54) I don't know.(6:54) I just want to make sure I wasn't nah, I mean, they're both good. (6:57) Cause I'll most likely say that some other time.

Alan Lazaros

(6:59) You have to give up to go grow up.

Kevin Palmieri

(7:02) I'll give you a glow up. (7:05) What you give up. (7:07) Yeah.(7:08) You might give it up and you might not get the thing for five years.

Alan Lazaros

(7:11) Yeah.

Kevin Palmieri

(7:12) That's, is that not implicit?

Alan Lazaros

(7:15) Yeah. (7:15) That's not implicit. (7:16) No, no, no.(7:17) I probably should have said that. (7:20) It's like, dude, I don't think I'm going to be the best in the world next year. (7:24) Not a chance.(7:25) Does that not? (7:26) Yeah, but it's like, it's not even that.

Kevin Palmieri

(7:28) I mean, if it takes me 50 years, it's more, it's more like, okay, so let's start by giving up A. (7:36) You don't, you don't really care that much about A anyway. (7:38) It's like, no, I don't really care.(7:39) A is fine. (7:40) Like take it or leave it. (7:41) And it's like, all right, cool.(7:43) And then it's like, you know, while we have the bag open, let's do B, C, D, E, F. (7:51) Throw that shit in there too. (7:52) You don't care that much about it, right?(7:54) Oh, well, you know, F like I kind of like F, but nope, it's okay. (7:57) And then it's like, nothing happens. (8:00) Nothing.(8:01) Yeah. (8:01) Nothing happens. (8:02) I think that when people use the analogy of like you water a seed, they don't tell you how, no, no.(8:07) Yeah. (8:07) You water that thing for like five years and then eventually before you even crack the surface, just a little sprout. (8:13) Yeah.(8:13) It's a little tiny sprout. (8:15) I think that's, but the mindset shift has to start with, I'm going to plant a seed. (8:21) The principle is I'm going to water that thing daily, no matter what, regardless, no matter what.(8:26) Yeah. (8:27) Regardless of outcome. (8:29) And then eventually I have faith in the process and my own capabilities and the compound effect that it will have paid off.(8:41) And I just think that that the mindset shift is the easiest part sometimes. (8:46) That's why I wanted to do the episode because so many people talk about mindset. (8:50) Love it.(8:51) I love talking about mindset. (8:52) Mindset by Carol Dweck is one of my favorite, favorite books I've ever read. (8:55) It's the one you recommend the most.(8:56) It's helped me so much. (8:58) Yeah. (8:58) But that is like step one.(9:03) That is, that is your entrance ticket. (9:08) You have to do that anyway. (9:10) And then like, then you just have to wait.(9:14) You just have to wait.

Alan Lazaros

(9:16) Who knows how long? (9:18) Yeah. (9:18) Just pick, pick it up.(9:19) We used to, we did an episode about this years ago. (9:22) I'm doing Facebook memory of the day again.

Kevin Palmieri

(9:24) I saw it.

Alan Lazaros

(9:27) Yeah. (9:27) It's been so good for me. (9:29) It's so good.(9:30) It's very humbling. (9:32) I just posted today. (9:34) You, me, Emilia and Bianca on the YWHY power podcast.(9:43) And Oh my goodness. (9:46) You were hung over that day.

Kevin Palmieri

(9:47) I was, yeah. (9:48) Not my proudest moment.

Alan Lazaros

(9:55) Anyways, Emilia is the same, but just more naive. (9:58) I was the same, but more naive. (10:00) You and Bianca are leagues different.(10:02) I mean, holy shit. (10:04) But anyway, so, so, but the point of this, the point I'm bringing that up is that was six years ago. (10:11) Your mindset hasn't changed that much since then.(10:14) There's definitely tweaks. (10:16) So, so instead of, instead of the compound effect leads to long-term success. (10:24) It's if I set up my environment, I can be consistent if it's sustainable.(10:33) And if I do it long enough at 0.1% improvement, then long-term success will really happen. (10:41) And then, and then the way you approach every little thing should be a little bit different. (10:45) Like I, I joked with you, I brush my teeth better than I used to.(10:47) We just got new toothbrushes, dude. (10:49) I'm not joking. (10:50) They're way better.(10:51) I'm always. (10:52) And again, I am always, always better supplements, better nutrition, better sleep, every tool in my tool belt, dude. (11:03) Like I have certain gym clothes that are better.(11:06) Now I have everything. (11:07) I'm not joking. (11:08) Like I'm, I will not.(11:10) I'm this bothers me every day that I don't have the new one every day because the new one will be faster, but I also, you know, it's not time yet next year. (11:18) It'll be time. (11:20) Well, why?(11:21) Because cost value analysis. (11:24) So why do you have to adapt the, adopt the principle before the result? (11:27) Get back to the question because results, the last part of the equation, it's the, it's the last part of the equation.(11:40) Results are the last part of the equation, man. (11:42) How cause and then effect not, but that's, that's where I think people get hung up.

Kevin Palmieri

(11:46) Cause it's like, how do you know if you're doing the right thing?

Alan Lazaros

(11:50) Like what if you're there should be indicators. (11:53) Like why would you water the seed if it, if it doesn't show any or like, how do you know?

Kevin Palmieri

(11:59) It's like, well, I think I'm supposed to do a cup of water. (12:01) It's like, no, no, actually not. (12:04) You're killing it.(12:04) It's dead. (12:05) So that, that seed that you buried is fucking dead under there. (12:09) So yeah, you're pouring water on it every day, but like, it's gone.(12:13) The ants ate it. (12:13) It's gone. (12:14) It's dead.

Alan Lazaros

(12:15) Well, in this metaphor, and this is why first principles thinking is so much better than metaphors, but, uh, you, you would plant another seed. (12:22) You're not just going to use the same seed the whole time. (12:24) In this case, you're talking about the seed as an idea or is it like a business?

Kevin Palmieri

(12:29) No, no, it's an idea, an idea.

Alan Lazaros

(12:30) Okay. (12:32) What's a good idea? (12:34) The 191 X concept.(12:35) I have it written right over here. (12:37) It's the most powerful idea I've ever had. (12:40) I don't say that lightly.(12:41) This is the most powerful idea I've ever had. (12:43) And it's that if you take a dollar and grow it by 0.1% for 50 years, it becomes 18,250 days. (12:50) And it becomes $84 million.(12:52) If you take weekends off and only becomes $439,000, which is 191 times less, I will get a t-shirt made of the unrelenting tortoise against the arrogant and entitled, lazy fucking hair. (13:02) And I will wear that shit every day. (13:06) No, not every day, but the one that concept I think is the most powerful idea I've ever had.

Kevin Palmieri

(13:14) But that's not a concept. (13:15) That's not an idea you're building. (13:17) That's like a principle you're living by.(13:20) I want an idea of like, I want to start a podcast.

Alan Lazaros

(13:25) Yeah. (13:25) That's not a principle.

Kevin Palmieri

(13:26) No, no, I don't want a principle. (13:27) I want an idea. (13:28) You said, is this an idea?

Alan Lazaros

(13:29) And I said, yeah, this is an idea. (13:30) I, I meant an idea as a principle. (13:33) No person's places, things, and ideas.(13:35) A business, a podcast is a thing, not an idea. (13:39) Okay. (13:39) A thing.(13:41) Okay. (13:41) Well, then that's different. (13:42) So like your dream car, that's not a principle.(13:46) That's an effect, not a cause. (13:48) Yes. (13:48) Yeah.(13:49) Yeah. (13:49) You need to worry about the cause, not the effect. (13:52) As a matter of fact, imagine we, we go back 11 years ago and I, you and I both 26 and we have our quarter life crises again, technically nine years ago.(14:04) Cause that's when we started the podcast. (14:05) We'll do that nine years ago. (14:07) I would be worried about the causes, not the effects.(14:10) You'd be worried about the effects. (14:11) I want the nice car. (14:13) I could get that car, but I wouldn't worry about the car.(14:16) I'd worry about the causes that create the income that allow you to get the car. (14:23) And I think that that's a big issue. (14:25) People are so worried about effects and that's what you're seeing on social media.(14:28) It's all effects. (14:29) There's no causes on there. (14:30) Like I posted a, I want to share this real quick because one of the people in our fitness group, Brandon was very grateful that I posted this and I'm grateful.(14:40) She was grateful because this took some time and I knew it would land. (14:45) I worked really hard to make this as simple as humanly possible. (14:48) Cause as an engineer, whenever you start hammering numbers, everybody's just shuts off.(14:52) Not everybody. (14:53) A lot of people shut up and it just pisses me off. (14:56) It's like, I can't teach you anything of value if I can't make it simple.(15:00) Right? (15:02) I said, okay, next levelers. (15:03) So the effect is the picture.(15:05) Me looking lean. (15:06) Awesome. (15:07) Cool.(15:07) That's the effect. (15:08) That's what people want. (15:09) Quote unquote, to be athletic in shape, whatever.(15:13) That doesn't matter. (15:14) Who gives a shit about the picture? (15:15) There's no value in the picture.(15:17) Zero value in the picture. (15:19) If you want to lose 10 pounds in 10 weeks, you got to read the fucking post. (15:24) Okay.(15:24) Next levelers. (15:24) Today is day five of the 10 pound in 10 week challenge. (15:27) Have you read this yet?(15:28) Okay. (15:30) Everyone's start weights and goal weights are in. (15:33) My start weight was 200 pounds and my goal weight is 190.(15:37) I just weighed in last night at 199.4 and I highly recommend everyone uses Sundays as their check-in day. (15:45) Cause last time when we did this, I'm not reading anymore. (15:47) Last time when we did this, nobody succeeded.(15:51) Yes. (15:51) That's on them. (15:52) I think it's more on us.(15:53) We suck. (15:55) Like dude, you do a 10 pound in 10 week challenge and then teach no one how to do it. (16:00) That's kind of on us.(16:01) It's also on them. (16:02) All right. (16:03) In order to lose 10 pounds in 10 weeks, I'm reading again.(16:05) You need to be in at least a 500 calorie deficit each day on average. (16:09) Simple. (16:11) Okay.(16:12) Simple, not easy to do that. (16:16) I recommend burning an extra 250 calories per day with exercise in tandem with eating 250 calories less. (16:22) Simple.(16:24) The problem is homeostasis though. (16:26) This part I think might be a breakthrough for some people. (16:30) As you adjust your exercise and diet, your body adapts over time and your metabolism slows.(16:35) You can't just do the same shit because that 500 deficit becomes 450, becomes 400, becomes 350, becomes 300 over time as your metabolism starts to tank and you start to lose muscle mass. (16:49) Now I'm going to go back to reading. (16:52) To combat this, every week you need to ramp up your exercise and decrease your caloric intake even more.(16:59) I recommend increasing your daily caloric output by 100, aka burn 100 more calories and decreasing your daily caloric input by 100, meaning eat 100 calories less. (17:12) So if you take the next 10 pound, 10 pounds in 10 week challenge from July 1st to September 8th, every week you need to be in an average of a 500 calorie deficit, which is 250 calories more burnt and 250 calories less eaten. (17:30) Now every week you need to increase the exercise a little bit and decrease what you put in your face a little bit.(17:38) And if you do that, you will win. (17:41) You will. (17:42) But you can't have a cheap meal.(17:44) You can't have a fucking 4th of July barbecue. (17:47) Like you'll never make it up. (17:49) And it's just math.(17:51) And anyone, I would go toe to toe with anyone on this if they want to try to argue with me. (17:56) But my metabolism, my thyroid, listen, calories is a unit of energy. (18:01) It's a scientific unit of energy.(18:03) You cannot gain weight, physical mass, mass cannot be created nor destroyed, only transferred or transformed. (18:08) This is called science. (18:11) It will work if you do it.(18:14) But I don't have a freaking, I don't have you on camera for all 10 weeks making sure that you don't eat more and not exercise enough. (18:24) And so I have certain people who I'm certain will hit. (18:27) You're one of them because they know that fundamental principle.(18:30) But back to this main idea, the principle is the same and the principle works no matter who you are. (18:36) It's a law of the universe, the law of thermodynamics. (18:40) It's not my opinion.(18:41) This is going to work for all people. (18:43) There are no marathon runners who are overweight. (18:48) Ultra marathoners are always skinny because they always burn consistently over time, more than they take in to the point where they also destroy all their muscle mass.(18:56) But I just, it just gets frustrating when you have the answers and it's very hard to get them across. (19:03) But anyways, the reason I read that is because it's another principle that you can leverage or not. (19:09) But if you don't understand it and you don't adopt it and you don't water it consistently, you'll never find out that it's true.(19:16) And then you'll never believe in it. (19:17) And then you'll find reasons that aren't true of why it doesn't work. (19:20) When in reality, it absolutely would work.(19:22) If I could be your full-time fitness coach and follow you around every day, I'm certain I could get you to lose 10 pounds in 10 weeks, no matter who you are. (19:31) I could. (19:34) Even if it was just with eating and no exercise, maybe you're in bed, you can't exercise.(19:37) Like I could get that to happen just with math. (19:42) These ideas do work, but they don't work unless you work them and they usually take longer than you want.

Kevin Palmieri

(19:49) And that's, I think the piece, right? (19:51) Like it doesn't matter. (19:55) It doesn't matter that you're bought into any of that if you don't do it for long enough.(19:59) And that's the fucking issue is it doesn't matter.

Alan Lazaros

(20:02) And the problem is the measurement you might've gained weight because of salt and just water retention. (20:09) I mean, how much water does someone hold in a given, at a given time? (20:12) You know this from UFC, they can cut 10 pounds of water.

Kevin Palmieri

(20:16) Yeah, for sure. (20:17) People cut more than that. (20:18) You can cut a lot.(20:19) There's a lot of water weight and it fluctuates a ton. (20:21) It fluctuates a ton. (20:24) I don't care what you weighed in it today.(20:26) I don't care what you weighed in it tomorrow. (20:27) Come tell me in a week and we'll talk about it. (20:29) The day-to-day, especially in the beginning, it's like, I don't even fucking worry about it in the beginning.(20:34) Don't even worry about it because all it's going to do is you're going to say, well, I gained a pound. (20:37) This isn't going to work. (20:38) It's like, no, that's not real.(20:39) That's not a real, it's not.

Alan Lazaros

(20:41) No, it's not a real, you didn't gain a pound. (20:42) That's what I'm saying. (20:43) You didn't gain a pound.(20:44) You're retaining a pound more of water.

Kevin Palmieri

(20:46) Just unplugged my laptop.

Alan Lazaros

(20:47) You didn't gain a pound. (20:48) You didn't. (20:49) I mean, maybe you did if you, if you, but, but that's a 500 calorie surplus for seven days.

Kevin Palmieri

(20:55) Yeah. (20:55) But even if I don't care what you did yesterday, you didn't gain a pound. (21:01) No, unless you ate 4,000 calories.

Alan Lazaros

(21:04) Yeah. (21:04) Unless you ate 3,500 extra calories above your metabolic set point.

Kevin Palmieri

(21:09) So if you did a 10,000 calorie challenge, like, okay. (21:12) Yeah. (21:12) Okay.(21:13) But you didn't, you didn't, this is just the first time that's like, so that's another level of the mindset shift. (21:18) Okay. (21:19) You went from not weighing yourself to weighing yourself every day.(21:22) You're going to see things you've never seen before, and you're not going to know how to react to them because you've never seen it before. (21:26) And you don't know the next layer yet, which comes after you weigh yourself for X amount of time when you realize like, oh, interesting. (21:32) Every time we get sushi, the next day.(21:35) And I like, I mean, I track the sushi. (21:37) I feel like I'm not eating that much, but every day I wake up heavier. (21:40) Well, sushi has a ton of sodium in it and you're using soy sauce, which has a ton of sodium in it.(21:44) And you drink a bunch of water because your mouth is so dry and water and sodium connect. (21:49) And that equals water weight. (21:51) Right?(21:51) So I, I, I understand now more than ever why success seems fucking impossible.

Alan Lazaros

(21:57) Yeah. (21:57) The cause and effect thing we'll get going. (21:59) I know we got another episode to do the cause and effect thing.(22:03) I hope lands. (22:03) That's, that's my takeaway is focus on the causes. (22:08) Yes.(22:09) You have to choose what effect you want. (22:11) That's the goal. (22:12) 10 pounds in 10 weeks is an effect.(22:14) The cause is caloric intake and caloric output. (22:19) So you, you got to tweak the causes. (22:21) You got to focus on the causes.(22:23) Watering the seed is a cause. (22:26) The plant is the effect. (22:28) So your dream car is an effect.(22:31) The causes is financial mastery. (22:34) And if you focus on the causes as boring as that is for long enough, you have to trust that the effects will happen. (22:41) And if you can't reverse engineer that dude, quite frankly, I don't really know if you weren't certain the effect would happen.(22:48) Why honestly, why would you, I mean, I'm, I've only have one example of that where I was not a hundred percent sure he merely existed and I still trusted it without almost any evidence and it worked out that I don't normally do that.

Kevin Palmieri

(23:05) Well, but that was one of the times where you were like, I've never seen you not have belief in something. (23:08) That was one time.

Alan Lazaros

(23:10) It was very scary to scary is probably the wrong word, but it was definitely like, am I seriously going to believe in something with zero evidence? (23:19) I guess I have to, right. (23:21) And if I have to give up to grow up, if I have to be alone forever, I guess I will, but I wanted to have children.(23:27) So it was kind of like, am I going to have to give up that dream? (23:31) You know, cause my, my defer reference before I met Amelia, I said, no matter how long it takes, I need, I want to be with someone who has bigger goals and dreams than me prior to meeting me. (23:43) And you even said like, good luck, man.(23:49) But, but I had to have faith. (23:53) And I don't mean that in a religious, religious context. (23:56) I mean, faith in believing in something I can't see yet, not knowing for sure it exists, but believing it, believing it anyway, that's like a little reckless.(24:07) So don't take that too far. (24:09) But I normally with this kind of stuff, I mean, when, when I hit 10 pounds in 10 weeks, I'm gonna be like, yeah, like that, that I know, I'm certain that can happen. (24:18) I know the science, I know the formula.(24:19) I'm not, I'm not concerned about it not happening at all. (24:24) Neither are you. (24:25) And that's the same with money.(24:26) That's the same with business. (24:27) That's the same with fitness, like with some nuance, obviously, but you, you can get to a point. (24:34) And this is what I tried to tell you earlier is like, if you have a deep understanding of the how and the why of the causes, you'll be able to create whatever effects you want.(24:41) And that's why, when I wanted that Ironman house on the side of the mountain, you now don't think that's arrogant because it's like someone has to buy it. (24:47) And I know exactly how much it is. (24:48) I know how much the monthly will be.(24:50) I've reverse engineered it. (24:52) Right. (24:52) I know the square footage.(24:53) I know the price per square foot. (24:55) Like, it's not like I'm like, oh, I want that house. (24:57) And then that's it.(24:58) Well, by the way, I didn't want it tomorrow.

Kevin Palmieri

(24:59) When you said that, I didn't, I didn't know though.

Alan Lazaros

(25:02) Yeah. (25:03) There's a lot underneath that iceberg.

Kevin Palmieri

(25:04) Yeah. (25:04) It's like, huh?

Alan Lazaros

(25:08) Interesting. (25:08) Just when you think I was full of it.

Kevin Palmieri

(25:10) Yeah. (25:10) A little bit. (25:11) Just when you think you know somebody.(25:13) I believe you'll have that house.

Alan Lazaros

(25:15) Yeah.

Kevin Palmieri

(25:16) You'll get to it before me, unfortunately. (25:17) So I won't be able to, I won't be able to swipe it out from underneath your nose. (25:21) All right.(25:21) Next level fitness accountability group. (25:23) We talk, we've been talking a lot about fitness. (25:25) So if you're looking to get dialed in next level fitness accountability groups, totally free.(25:28) It's in WhatsApp. (25:29) People post in there every single day. (25:31) Alan's coaching is great for stuff like this.(25:33) The mindset shift is where you start, but then it's the principle-based decision-making and then how do you do it and the habits and the metrics and all that stuff. (25:40) So Alan is your guy for that. (25:42) Reach out to him for coaching as always.(25:43) We love you. (25:44) Appreciate you. (25:44) Grateful for each and every one of you.(25:45) If you are as committed as you say you are to getting to the next level, make sure you tune in tomorrow because we will be here every single day to help you get there. (25:51) Keep leveling up to reach your full potential. (25:54) Thanks for joining us for another episode of Next Level University.(25:58) We love connecting with the next level family.

Alan Lazaros

(26:01) We mean it when we say family. (26:03) If you ever need anything, please reach out to us directly. (26:06) Everything you need to get ahold of us is in the show notes.(26:10) Thank you again, and we will talk to you tomorrow.