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A clear aim makes hard choices easier. In this episode, Kevin and Alan clarify why most people do not lack motivation; they lack direction. Without a defined target, it is easy to overthink, chase the wrong opportunities, and mistake motion for meaningful progress. They break down the areas of clarity that shape your life. You will also hear why saying yes can build confidence and awareness in one season, while saying no can protect your focus in another.

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Show notes:
(3:57) The three areas you need to get clear on
(7:03) Knowing when to say yes and when to say no
(10:16) Why you cannot move forward without a clear target
(15:18) Building clarity through failure, feedback, and action
(21:14) A practical framework for clarifying your priorities
(24:00) Outro

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Transcript

Kevin Palmieri

(0:00) I believe when somebody lacks clarity, they also lack the ability to start something, even though when you start something, if you're moving in the correct direction, you get more clarity as you go.

Alan Lazaros

(0:14) You can't know what to do, what direction to head, how to do it, if you do not have clarity. (0:21) Clarity is the unsung hero underneath the iceberg of success.

Kevin Palmieri

(0:25) Welcome to Next Level University. (0:28) I'm your host, Kevin Palmieri. (0:30) And I'm your co-host, Alan Lazaros.(0:33) At NLU, we believe in a heart-driven but no BS approach to holistic self-improvement for dream chasers.

Alan Lazaros

(0:39) Our goal with every episode is to help you level up your life, love, health, and wealth.

Kevin Palmieri

(0:46) We bring you a new episode every single day on topics like confidence, self-belief, self-worth, self-awareness, relationships, boundaries, consistency, habits, and defining your own unique version of success.

Alan Lazaros

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Kevin Palmieri

(1:08) Welcome to Next Level University. (1:14) Next Level Nation, today for episode number 2498, we're going to talk about clarity. (1:20) Alan loves to say clarity is the unsung hero.(1:22) There's many unsung heroes though, I feel like. (1:24) Yeah, clarity is one of them. (1:25) Clarity, consistency.

Alan Lazaros

(1:29) Consistency is a byproduct of clarity, huh? (1:31) Huh? (1:32) That's fair, yeah.(1:33) I mean, you can't be consistent without having clarity on what you want.

Kevin Palmieri

(1:38) I mean, you can be consistent in the wrong direction, but you're still clear on what you want.

Alan Lazaros

(1:43) You're still clear on what you want.

Kevin Palmieri

(1:44) You want to get a little wild. (1:46) Yeah. (1:46) I had a conversation with Taryn last night, so you and I worked late last night, later, late for me.(1:52) I know for you it was probably an early night, excuse me. (1:55) But I went out and I spent a little time with Taryn before I had my protein ice cream and went to bed. (2:00) And I said, it's freaking wild right now.(2:03) We always slap hands when I get a new client, so I got a new client yesterday. (2:08) Technically, I had two new clients yesterday. (2:09) And I was like, it's so weird to me that this whole department that is growing into me just traveling all over the country is growing faster than anything ever has.(2:21) But you know what? (2:22) I was very clear on, I mean, I told you, I said, I'm going to grow this. (2:26) Like, this is something that I think is very valuable and I think a lot of people would find value in.(2:30) I'm going to grow this. (2:30) I have another one for you. (2:32) Another travel person?

Alan Lazaros

(2:33) Yeah.

Kevin Palmieri

(2:34) Where are we going? (2:34) Give me something good. (2:36) Where are we going?

Alan Lazaros

(2:37) Potentially Miami. (2:38) Oh, baby. (2:40) We'll see.(2:41) We'll see. (2:41) Okay. (2:42) Okay.(2:42) I still have to pitch it, but they are hiring someone who is way more expensive and not as good.

Kevin Palmieri

(2:48) We'll come on down. (2:49) We'll come on down. (2:50) But that was something I was clear about, I don't know, six months ago, eight months ago.(2:57) But do you know what? (2:59) I was not clear at all. (3:01) That's why you got to say yes to some stuff.(3:05) Saying yes to things gives you clarity on what you want to do and what you don't want to do. (3:08) I went to a mastermind in Toronto. (3:10) I met somebody and he's like, I would like for you to come to my headquarters twice a week is what it was and help me with this.(3:19) And I went to Alan and I was like, dude, I don't know about this. (3:22) I don't leave the office really. (3:24) And then we were like, yeah, let's try it and see what happens.(3:27) I stay at a hotel. (3:28) I'd stay there for two days. (3:29) It was a whole fucking thing.(3:31) And then it went down to one day. (3:33) That created clarity on what that could look like. (3:37) And now I'm going to Missouri.(3:38) Now I'm going to Houston. (3:39) Now I'm going, I might have multiple clients in Missouri. (3:42) There is something to be said about the fact that you have to go as far as you are clear.(3:46) And then that the rest of that level opens up and there's something to be said about that.

Alan Lazaros

(3:57) What's the minimum amount of clarity that you need? (4:01) So there's three main things you have to be clear on. (4:05) You have to be clear on who you are.(4:08) You have to be clear on what you want to achieve and you have to get clear on how to go from A to B. (4:16) That's the minimum. (4:19) And the part of this that I think is important is no one starts out with that.(4:26) You start out like you don't really know who you are yet. (4:29) You don't know really what you want yet because you've never really seen anything. (4:33) And then you definitely don't know how to get there.(4:37) And I think, what is a good example of this? (4:49) Okay. (4:50) We watched the movie F1 a few nights ago, last week, this is last week.(5:01) And Apex is a company in that film, Formula One. (5:11) Do you know what I'm talking about? (5:12) Yes.(5:13) It's a famous movie. (5:14) It's actually, I thought very well done in many ways. (5:16) Although I think some of it's silly.(5:20) Emilia loved the headquarters of Apex. (5:24) And she's like, that's exactly what I want my headquarters to be eventually. (5:29) Now she has a whole rendering of it for the future.(5:33) I think that to bring this back to clarity, as you get older, you're supposed to get more and more clarity on what you want and who you are and how to get there. (5:44) You're supposed to. (5:45) If I say I want to build a million dollar business, if I had said that in high school, you'd have been like, yeah, bullshit, Alan.(5:53) Now I can say it to you. (5:54) You're like, yeah, of course. (5:55) Why?(5:56) Because you know, I know how to do it. (5:59) Right. (6:00) And it turns out it's very hard for other people to know that you know how to do it until you do it, which is a whole thing.(6:06) But the only reason I know how to do it is I know exactly what to do, exactly how to do it. (6:13) And because I've, I've, I've got 37 years of experience in business. (6:19) Do you think people start?(6:20) Not 37 years, but you know what I'm saying? (6:22) I've been studying business since I was very young. (6:24) Go ahead.

Kevin Palmieri

(6:24) You think people start knowing what to do or knowing what not to do? (6:28) Which one of those is more, which one of those is more important in the beginning? (6:32) I think it's what not to do in the beginning.(6:35) Yeah. (6:35) I think maybe always, maybe always. (6:39) What's the difference though?(6:39) Like, cause knowing what not to do gives you a list of finite things. (6:44) Knowing what to do is an infinite list.

Alan Lazaros

(6:46) Well, not necessarily infinite, but like, I guess this is one of the reasons why I think it's so difficult to be a quote unquote thought leader because there's never, some people tell you say yes to opportunities. (7:03) Other people say you have to learn how to say no. (7:05) It totally depends on which side you're on.(7:08) That's fair. (7:09) Like you needed to learn how to say yes. (7:11) Cause you were a fucking hermit.(7:13) Okay. (7:13) With love. (7:14) I had to learn how to say no.(7:15) Cause I said yes to everything because I'm a fucking coward. (7:18) Like at the end of the day, Warren Buffett for every a hundred great opportunities that are brought to me, I say no 99 times, Warren, you didn't start out with a hundred great opportunities brought to you. (7:31) Some people are sitting there listening to that going.(7:32) That makes a lot of sense. (7:33) I'm going to say no and keep eating Cheetos on the couch. (7:36) The truth is it's, if you have a thousand opportunities, you have to say no to the crappy ones.(7:43) If you have no opportunities, you have to say yes to anything that goddamn comes your way. (7:47) And so the answer to that, it depends on your level of self-belief. (7:51) If you have a lot of self-belief, you most likely are doing too much dumb shit.(7:55) If you have low self-belief, you most likely are saying no to most of the things that actually get you clarity.

Kevin Palmieri

(8:02) I, this, the latest client we got in, uh, Texas, I literally said, like, I sent them a message and said, Hey, I don't know if we're right for you based on this, this, this, and this. (8:14) And they said, no, no, no, don't worry about any of that. (8:16) You're exactly what I want.(8:17) It's going to be fine. (8:18) Nice. (8:19) That was an interesting level of clarity.(8:23) Like then eventually you get to the point, but that's the thing, right? (8:25) I can't give that advice to somebody who's just starting out.

Alan Lazaros

(8:28) Yeah.

Kevin Palmieri

(8:28) You can't, that's the problem.

Alan Lazaros

(8:30) Your first client opportunity. (8:32) Hey, I don't know if I'm right for you. (8:33) It's like, no, no, no.(8:34) Thank you for, thank you for the opportunity.

Kevin Palmieri

(8:37) I'll figure it out. (8:38) I'll figure it out. (8:39) But that, I think that is the problem.(8:41) I think one of the problems is when you hear advice from people who are way ahead, it doesn't help you. (8:45) You think you're getting clear. (8:47) You're not getting clear.(8:48) Yeah. (8:48) I watched a YouTube video real quick. (8:50) I watched a YouTube video and it was, the name of the video was, is diary of a CEO making your life worse?(8:55) And I was like, fuck yeah. (8:56) I mean, I gotta, I gotta watch this. (8:59) And it essentially was like, it's, it's literally like, if you could only leave the listener with one thing, what would that one thing be?(9:09) And it's just this pie in the sky. (9:11) Yeah. (9:12) Mine was always get a little bit better every day.(9:16) Just get a little bit better every day. (9:17) That's it. (9:18) I don't care.(9:18) Like everything else is kind of, I know it's sexy, you know, to say like for every track habits, love it. (9:25) Track habits for every, uh, for every 99, a hundred opportunities, you're going to say no to 99. (9:30) It's like, honestly, me yet now who has a hundred opportunities at the beginning though?

Alan Lazaros

(9:36) Nobody, nobody, nobody, nobody. (9:39) And if you're 20, 30 years in, you have to say no to like the majority of the, so Jeff, the whole thing is Jeff's. (9:46) It is.(9:47) And we're going to fix that on this podcast. (9:49) I'm trying.

Kevin Palmieri

(9:50) I want to, but I both sides of the coin least full of shit men on earth. (9:53) Well, how, how do we, that's the issue for this is because I said to Alan, I said, yeah, I'm happy to talk about clarity. (9:58) I just don't know how to help people get clarity without giving specific examples of getting clarity, but I don't know what you're trying to get clear on.(10:07) And it's this whole fucking thing. (10:08) So Alan said, well, we just have a conversation about a question. (10:11) Why is clarity so important?(10:13) It's like, all right, let's do that. (10:13) We'll do that. (10:14) So that's the question.(10:16) Layer one. (10:16) Why is clarity so important?

Alan Lazaros

(10:18) Because you can't move forward at all without it. (10:22) Perfect. (10:23) You can't hit a target.

Kevin Palmieri

(10:24) You don't know you're aiming at.

Alan Lazaros

(10:24) That's, yeah, you have to have an aim. (10:26) You have to have it. (10:27) You have to.(10:28) And ideally you'd choose that aim consciously because most of our aims are evolutionary, uh, food, water, shelter, mating. (10:40) That's running us. (10:41) I mean, it's just running us.(10:43) We're just, we're like animals deep down, right? (10:45) So, uh, you have to let the prefrontal cortex actually guide you because most of your primitive drives are actually wildly detrimental. (10:54) Um, and okay.(10:57) Let's who, what, when, where, why I always say that those are the most important questions. (11:02) Who, so who, what, who do you want to spend your life with? (11:06) That's a good one.(11:07) It's a very important one. (11:08) Yeah. (11:09) So one of the most important ones, actually, if not the most important, you get that wrong.(11:13) You are fucked. (11:14) Yeah. (11:14) You're joked.(11:15) Yeah.

Kevin Palmieri

(11:15) Who? (11:16) Okay. (11:16) What in there?(11:17) What do you want to do with your life? (11:18) Same. (11:18) What do you want to do with your life?

Alan Lazaros

(11:20) Yeah. (11:20) What do you want to do? (11:22) What do you want to achieve and what do you want to do?(11:24) Yeah. (11:24) But that's, that's the fucking problem though.

Kevin Palmieri

(11:26) Like the level, the level of your answer is based on your awareness is based on your awareness of, well, yeah, like some of the time you're going to get to do that. (11:37) But when I, when I travel, I take a 5 30 AM flight. (11:43) That is fucking terrible.(11:44) Like I get to the airport at three 30. (11:46) I get up in the morning at two o'clock and then I work until like 9 PM. (11:52) It's absolutely atrocious.(11:54) And I lose two hours depending on where I go. (11:56) It's a long fuck. (11:57) I don't want to do that.(11:59) That wouldn't have been on the list.

Alan Lazaros

(12:01) But, but you doing that is a by-product of you knowing what you want to achieve. (12:06) But because otherwise you wouldn't do that. (12:07) Right.(12:08) So if you didn't have clarity on what you really want, yes. (12:11) Cause you have a lot of clarity on, you have the home of your dreams. (12:13) You have a picture of it, right?(12:14) You have, so you have clarity. (12:17) And I didn't say that the way to get what you want was going to be easy. (12:21) Neither did you, but you do have to have clarity on it, but you're right.(12:25) You don't, when you start, you don't have clarity on what comes with it. (12:28) I think that's an issue. (12:29) Yeah.(12:29) I agree.

Kevin Palmieri

(12:29) I think that might be one of the biggest.

Alan Lazaros

(12:31) Okay. (12:31) What do you want to achieve and what do you think is going to come with it?

Kevin Palmieri

(12:37) I would say, what's the most you would actually do to, to achieve what you say you want to achieve? (12:42) Give me the max. (12:43) What's the max?(12:44) What is the max? (12:45) Whatever it takes, baby. (12:46) Yeah.

Alan Lazaros

(12:47) But what does that mean?

Kevin Palmieri

(12:47) Integrity. (12:48) Right. (12:48) But okay.(12:49) What is that? (12:50) And then, but also within not doing bodily harm? (12:54) No, I would do bodily harm if I had to.(12:57) Not to anyone else. (12:58) No, but you'd sacrifice your own longevity consistently. (13:07) I am sacrificing longevity consistently.(13:11) I know. (13:12) And anybody out there, I don't fucking want to hear it. (13:15) Oh yeah.(13:16) No, you could go to bed or okay. (13:18) I'll go to bed at 4 PM and then I'll get my fucking eight hours of sleep so I can go to you. (13:22) I don't want to fucking hear it real quick.(13:23) Real quick. (13:24) I don't want to hear it.

Alan Lazaros

(13:24) You do that. (13:25) I do. (13:25) I love it.(13:29) This is, this is the, am I sacrificing longevity? (13:33) Will I sacrifice longevity? (13:37) Consistently.(13:38) This is the integration of core values and goals. (13:40) So, so my multidisciplinary prioritization, my priority is to reach my full potential. (13:49) In order to do that, I have to, and have the biggest impact I possibly can have.(13:52) Positive impact. (13:53) The most, the most positively impactful peak performance coach in history. (13:57) Boom.(13:58) Reach my full potential, help others do the same. (14:01) If that's the true North that I'm aiming at the clarity, by the way, and it's a mountain that gets higher as I climb it, I have to play the game. (14:12) Like, like I said, if average life expectancy was 40, I wouldn't even be on this podcast episode.(14:19) I'm not joking. (14:20) How you play the game is predicated on how long you can play the game. (14:23) This is game theory.(14:25) So yes, I sacrifice longevity, but, but there's an optimal stopping problem to everything. (14:30) So I'm one 20 was my aim in my twenties. (14:35) I decided I wanted to live to one 20.(14:36) I don't want to hear it from any of you straight up either. (14:39) Like, I don't care about your opinion about whether or not I should or shouldn't. (14:43) What I'm, what I'm saying is I do believe that's not only possible, but I also believe that I can do it.(14:48) And I believe that aiming at that will make my life better. (14:52) And if that changes, I'll change the goddamn goal. (14:55) But all of this is clarity, dude.(14:57) I know that if anyone were to ever look at my life and I don't think they do, but if they did look at my life in any envy whatsoever, clarity is underneath it. (15:08) I have more clarity on who I am, who I aspire to be, who I want to be with, who I don't want to be with. (15:15) I have so much clarity and you want to how I got it.(15:18) People ask me, I was on a podcast earlier, massive pain and failure. (15:23) I got clarity through massive pain and failure. (15:26) You have never met someone who tried and failed.(15:29) No one will out fail me. (15:31) No one. (15:32) And the reason why I say that is because I'm going to have to the distinctions that I have are because I've just tried everything I've tried.(15:41) I experiment constantly, dude. (15:42) You've never met someone who's tried more dumb shit than me.

Kevin Palmieri

(15:45) Unfortunately, I'm coming up on a close second because of my association with you.

Alan Lazaros

(15:50) So I'm not that close, but you figure out the formula through massive pain, failure and studying. (15:57) You don't want to, you don't need to get hit by a car to learn, to look both ways. (16:00) Like there's a, there's a right, but you mentors, coaches, therapists, I'm with it.(16:04) I had all of them. (16:05) I have a therapist still. (16:06) She doesn't know how to multi-million dollar business.(16:10) If she knew she'd have one, she certainly doesn't know how to achieve my dreams. (16:16) I have to figure that out for myself. (16:19) And the only way to do that is to try, fail, learn, try, fail, learn.(16:24) And it's supposed to be try, fail, learn, try better, fail better, learn better. (16:30) And that's the thing that everyone wants to avoid. (16:32) It's like, there's no way to avoid it.(16:33) I've been embarrassed. (16:34) I've bombed speeches. (16:36) I've made mistakes.(16:37) I've just triggered recently, one of my clients, she was literally crying after a call, relationship talks, coaching, and we're good. (16:44) We're good now. (16:45) But it was like, this is, you know, I was going near the line.(16:49) I warned you, like, I have to like uncover some, some stuff here. (16:53) And the male in the relationship said like, you're good. (16:56) You weren't, you weren't disrespectful.(16:58) But I said, brother, I knew, I knew, I said, someone had to try. (17:04) And she, she's in the gym now. (17:06) She's, she's flourishing now.(17:08) Someone had to get that beach ball that she exiled up and, and out of her. (17:14) And that's the risk you take to be a great leader. (17:17) And, and, you know, she could have told me to F myself instead.(17:21) She didn't, she changed her life, which I trusted. (17:23) And it's been years since of coaching her. (17:25) So I kind of knew, but the point I'm making is like, you get clarity through failure and success.(17:31) You get clarity by just trying and iterating fucking every day through a, what do you get more clarity from failure or success? (17:39) Failure. (17:40) Hands down.

Kevin Palmieri

(17:43) I don't know, man.

Alan Lazaros

(17:46) Let's talk about it. (17:47) You need both though. (17:48) It's called bright spots and dark spots.(17:51) I think you get more transformation from failure because of the humble pie, but of course, on my end of drive to five failure is more useful.

Kevin Palmieri

(17:59) Yeah. (17:59) But I think you get more transformation, but I think when you do start to succeed, you understand the impact of making very small pivots to your success. (18:10) I think the failure is like, just stay out of there.(18:14) Don't go in the water there. (18:16) That's not good. (18:17) I'm not going in the water.(18:19) I'm not going in the ocean anytime soon. (18:20) There's too many sharks. (18:22) I'm not doing it.(18:23) Stay the fuck out. (18:23) Good. (18:24) Done.(18:24) Don't even need to, I don't need to revisit that at all. (18:27) It's done. (18:28) Clear.(18:28) So clear. (18:30) But there's certain things where it's like, okay, we've used this example before. (18:35) I had a really big opportunity very early in business that I fucked up royally.(18:40) Royally. (18:42) I teed it up for the kid. (18:45) I hooked it into the woods.

Kevin Palmieri

(18:47) No, I hit it.

Kevin Palmieri

(18:48) I just hooked it into the woods. (18:49) It was bad. (18:50) But I told you not to do that.(18:52) Yeah, but I had to learn. (18:53) Ugh. (18:54) Why do I share that lesson all the time?(18:56) Because that's one of the best lessons I've ever had.

Alan Lazaros

(18:58) Let's just give the gravity of this real quick. (18:59) What was that per year?

Kevin Palmieri

(19:00) $2,000, $24,000 a year. (19:05) $24,000 a year. (19:06) It's not a small L.(19:08) This was in 2020. (19:09) That's not a small L.

Alan Lazaros

(19:11) $24,000 a year. (19:13) Everyone out there listening, just imagine your paycheck goes down by $24,000.

Kevin Palmieri

(19:17) And first of all, this person never actually started a podcast. (19:19) I'm convinced it never would have worked long term.

Alan Lazaros

(19:21) It would have. (19:22) It might have. (19:23) It might have.(19:23) You can't think like that. (19:24) It might have. (19:25) You're letting yourself off the hook for failure, man.(19:27) No, no. (19:28) I beat myself up.

Kevin Palmieri

(19:29) I beat myself up.

Alan Lazaros

(19:30) Not enough. (19:30) I'm kidding.

Kevin Palmieri

(19:31) I beat myself up so much where I've never made that mistake again. (19:34) Nice. (19:35) I've never made that mistake again.(19:36) So I think it depends. (19:37) I think a failure can launch you into a new level of clarity on exactly what not to do. (19:43) But when you do start to...(19:46) It's like if you're trying to find the code for a lock, there's three numbers. (19:52) 26. (19:53) No, that didn't work.(19:54) 28. (19:54) No, 28. (19:55) Fuck.(19:55) Okay, cool. (19:56) 28. (19:56) Boom.(19:56) Lock that in. (19:57) You understand the pivots, the small pivots when you have the right thought process is massive. (20:08) That.(20:09) That. (20:10) So I think success creates more clarity than failure.

Alan Lazaros

(20:16) I think it depends where you are in the drive to five. (20:19) And if you haven't listened to yesterday's episode, listen to that because if you have low self-belief, success provides more clarity. (20:30) I don't know, man.(20:31) If you have high self-belief, failure provides more clarity.

Kevin Palmieri

(20:37) Isn't there a piece of you right now that is succeeding at things maybe more than ever that's bringing more clarity than it has in the past? (20:47) Or we're saying it's 51-49. (20:49) We're not saying it's 99-1.(20:51) Yeah, no. (20:51) It's definitely close.

Alan Lazaros

(20:52) But if you had to pick one, I would pick failure for sure. (20:56) I've learned way more from failure than success. (20:58) But that's because of the opportunity thing.(21:01) Like you had to say yes to stuff. (21:02) I had to say no to stuff. (21:03) I was saying yes to too many things.(21:05) You were saying no to too many things. (21:07) So we're all trying to find our way to five on everything. (21:11) Neither one of us was optimal.

Kevin Palmieri

(21:13) What's the wrap up? (21:13) We got three minutes.

Alan Lazaros

(21:14) Yeah. (21:15) I think I have so many clocks in here. (21:17) When, where, why?(21:18) You got to go there. (21:20) It's basic. (21:21) It's basic, but it's boring.(21:22) I don't care. (21:23) I don't care. (21:24) Check in with it.(21:26) Who do I aspire to be? (21:29) What do I want to achieve? (21:32) Who do I want to be with?(21:34) Why do I want to be with that person? (21:35) Why do I want to achieve that? (21:38) How am I going to do it?(21:42) Why should I do this in the first place? (21:45) Stack the whys. (21:46) What are all the reasons why this would be great?(21:50) What am I going to have to do that is going to blow? (21:54) Who, what, when, where, why? (21:56) And when?(21:56) When am I going to do it? (21:57) What's the timeline and the target? (21:59) Like in my thirties, I gave myself my thirties when I turned 30, November 17th of seven years ago.(22:07) I gave myself a decade to like, just build, just build, build yourself, build the family, build the business, build the self, build the family, build the business, build the self, build the family, build the business. (22:20) You're not allowed to do anything else. (22:22) Build the self, build the family, build the business.(22:24) Nothing outside of that gets your fucking time and effort. (22:28) Awesome. (22:29) Here I am seven years later, things are going quite well in those three things and awful in everything else.(22:34) Like at the end of the day, you need to have clarity. (22:38) And I think a lot of people, they give you advice and they're like, well, you know, when I was your age and it's like, yo, you didn't know what the fuck you were doing.

Kevin Palmieri

(22:44) Yeah, for sure.

Alan Lazaros

(22:45) I had more clarity at 22 than you do at 52. (22:48) Shut your fucking mouth. (22:50) God.(22:52) What's your wrap up?

Kevin Palmieri

(22:54) That's always my favorite. (22:55) When I was, when I was your age, look, I don't think anything's changed. (23:01) What in the eighties when you guys didn't know anything.

Kevin Palmieri

(23:03) Right. (23:03) Yeah.

Kevin Palmieri

(23:04) Brutal. (23:04) What is my wrap up, man? (23:08) I don't know.(23:09) Some of the best wins you'll have are not the wins you think you're going to have based on the thing. (23:14) So if you are somebody who is under on the drive to five, you have to say yes to stuff that makes you uncomfortable. (23:19) As long as it's aligned, as long as it's something that's uncomfortable, but aligned, you're going to take lessons that will carry over to other pieces in life for sure.(23:27) If you're very high in the drive to five, you probably have to start saying no to some shit because you're obviously not clear on your own prioritization and value towards your own goals and dreams. (23:36) Probably that. (23:38) I need to say now though, I'm at a place where I need to say no more.(23:41) Agreed. (23:42) So the advice is all skewed. (23:44) I tried.

Alan Lazaros

(23:45) That's why you got to give both sides of the coin every time. (23:47) I'm glad we do.

Kevin Palmieri

(23:47) Yeah. (23:48) Same.

Alan Lazaros

(23:48) And that's why we debate. (23:49) It's good.

Kevin Palmieri

(23:50) We do debate. (23:50) All right. (23:51) Reach out to Alan for coaching.(23:52) Next level podcast accelerator. (23:53) Next level fitness accountability group, book club, master classes, monthly, all this stuff. (23:58) Visit nextleveluniverse.com.(24:00) We have all this stuff on the website. (24:01) As always, I love you, appreciate you, grateful for each and every one of you. (24:03) If you are as committed as you say you are to getting to the next level, make sure you tune in tomorrow because we will be here every single day to help you get there.(24:09) Keep leveling up to reach your full potential. (24:12) Thanks for joining us for another episode of Next Level University. (24:16) We love connecting with the Next Level family.

Alan Lazaros

(24:19) We mean it when we say family. (24:21) If you ever need anything, please reach out to us directly. (24:24) Everything you need to get ahold of us is in the show notes.

Kevin Palmieri

(24:28) Thank you again, and we will talk to you tomorrow.