Have you ever wondered how successful people initiate and create success in their lives?
Well, in our latest episode, we're joined by soul alignment activator, mentor, speaker, podcaster, and author, Keri Lynn Norley, "The Wealth Alchemist" who reveals her journey of stepping into the world of paid professional speaking. The conversation uncovers the emotional rollercoaster she experienced through this transition, and we chat about her podcast 'Unmasked' and her internationally bestselling book 'The New Wealth: Magnetize Abundance'.
Keri guides us through the fascinating concept of 'Human Design' and how it has played a significant role in her understanding of her strengths and weaknesses. We contemplate the idea of manifesting and setting in motion success, and Keri, with her wealth of experience, offers insightful, practical advice. Get ready to learn about leading from the front, paving the way, and informing people of what lies ahead.
We also tackle the common struggle many of us face - finding joy in our work and dealing with the guilt and shame of getting paid well for doing something we love. We delve into the impact that childhood education has on our personal development, and how it shapes our perceptions of our abilities. As we wrap up, Keri leaves us with some nuggets of wisdom for those contemplating a leap into the world. It's an episode rich with enlightenment for anyone looking to break into new professional territories and find fulfillment in their work.
The best place to connect with her is on Facebook at www.facebook.com/kerinorley1 and Instagram at @kerinorley
You can also check out her free Intro to Crypto training at www.kerinorley.com/cryptointro
Watch the full video episode at Justin Wenck, Ph.D. YouTube Channel!
Check out my best-selling book "Engineered to Love: Going Beyond Success to Fulfillment" also available on Audiobook on all streaming platforms! Go to https://www.engineeredtolove.com/ to learn more!
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Have you ever wondered how successful people initiate and create success in their lives?
Well, in our latest episode, we're joined by soul alignment activator, mentor, speaker, podcaster, and author, Keri Lynn Norley, "The Wealth Alchemist" who reveals her journey of stepping into the world of paid professional speaking. The conversation uncovers the emotional rollercoaster she experienced through this transition, and we chat about her podcast 'Unmasked' and her internationally bestselling book 'The New Wealth: Magnetize Abundance'.
Keri guides us through the fascinating concept of 'Human Design' and how it has played a significant role in her understanding of her strengths and weaknesses. We contemplate the idea of manifesting and setting in motion success, and Keri, with her wealth of experience, offers insightful, practical advice. Get ready to learn about leading from the front, paving the way, and informing people of what lies ahead.
We also tackle the common struggle many of us face - finding joy in our work and dealing with the guilt and shame of getting paid well for doing something we love. We delve into the impact that childhood education has on our personal development, and how it shapes our perceptions of our abilities. As we wrap up, Keri leaves us with some nuggets of wisdom for those contemplating a leap into the world. It's an episode rich with enlightenment for anyone looking to break into new professional territories and find fulfillment in their work.
The best place to connect with her is on Facebook at www.facebook.com/kerinorley1 and Instagram at @kerinorley
You can also check out her free Intro to Crypto training at www.kerinorley.com/cryptointro
Watch the full video episode at Justin Wenck, Ph.D. YouTube Channel!
Check out my best-selling book "Engineered to Love: Going Beyond Success to Fulfillment" also available on Audiobook on all streaming platforms! Go to https://www.engineeredtolove.com/ to learn more!
Got a question or comment about the show? E-mail me at podcast@justinwenck.com.
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Welcome to the show. I'm Justin Wink. Today, we are going to be talking about taking the leap into something new, and I'm taking the leap by not doing this podcast all on my own. I have a fantastic guest and, just to make her feel welcome, I want to do this intro in a very, very special way.
Speaker 2:So Carrie Lynn Norley is the wealth alchemist. She is an international wealth and soul alignment activator, mentor, speaker, podcaster and author. She's the author of Not One, Not Two, Crocky. She's author of four books, Blimey, including the International Bestseller the Wealth, the New Wealth, Magnetize Abundance. And that's magnetized with an S, because we're not talking about the way us, the yanks, the fucking yanks, would spell it, which would be with like a Z. It's with a Z, Sorry. Do they say Z in Aussie land or do they say they say Z? They say Z.
Speaker 2:They say Z, they say Z, they say Z, they say yeah so it's not with the Z, it's magnetized abundance Hold your wealth and leave a legacy. She also has an international top shot podcast, the Wealth Alchemist, and this is launching podcast number two. It's not a shitty one. It's her second podcast and it's going to be called Unmasked, so look for that where your greater podcasts are sold.
Speaker 1:All right, I'm going to just stay. The rest Am I American? Permission and passion is to help shift the wealth consciousness of the planet. In BD, no big deal. She speaks to healing, generational conditioning and how that plays out in relationships, health and personal finances. She is an American, aussie, living in Colorado, and loves dancing and good quality chocolate. So when she's on and you hear some weird terms of things, I'll make sure that we translate. For my non Aussie speaking listeners out there, of which I know there are many. The best place to connect with Carrie is on her Facebook. At facebookcom, carrie Norley won. So Carrie Norley without the number one, that is a fake. You don't want that. But on Insta, you do want. At Carrie Norley, it's all going to go on the show notes Make it Rosie, she's. She's also. You've heard of crypto bros. She's a. Is it a crypto bra? I think she's got a crypto bra she. So she has training on crypto. She really knows her shit. Carrie Norleycom slash crypto intro.
Speaker 3:Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2:Did.
Speaker 1:I might carry no way Shrimp on the barbie I was trying to like look out very Aussie sayings but it most start to just reference like weird places to shop and eat and things like that. I know Tim Hortons for the Canadians and I'm I don't need to know anymore. You know McDonald's is everywhere, so I don't need to know more. Fast food Welcome to the show.
Speaker 1:So we're talking about? We're talking about jumping into, leaping into something new, and we're not talking about, like I don't know, leaping into something you don't want, but something you want, but something that might be a little scary, it's a little edgy, it's a little bit like, oh my gosh, can I do this, should I do this? What will people think about me? So this is actually kind of a good follow up to the podcast I that went out the previous week, which was about getting over over judgments and because people are just going to be judging us, no matter what. From the day we're born we're getting judged. Because I was reading something from my third grade teacher that was all about my strengths and my weaknesses and just funny to think of, like an eight year old. And you know, here's what Justin's good at, here's what Justin's not good at. Justin's breadth of literature is not up to par A fucking eight year old.
Speaker 3:The shit that people said hey, yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 1:So you're, I mean so you've, you're clearly experienced at leaping, leaping into things I mean from from your bio, with books, podcasts. What's this latest thing that you told me about? And I was like let's do a podcast.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's funny because I this is the first time I'm speaking and knowing it's going to be public soon. So the decision I made last it was last week is to move into paid professional speaking, which isn't like, when I think about it and we say everything that's just happened of, like everything you just described, out of my world doesn't seem like a big leap, but in my world feels like a ginormous leap.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and what? And for you, what is the flavor of? Like what you know? Cause it is, it's one of those. You hear the biography and you're like, well, of course people don't want to pay this person to come speak. Like, look at all the things that they've done. Yeah, when you're on the other side, when you're you and your and your brain and all the feelings come up, is it just like, oh wait, and then how did you actually, you know, move into this, owning it and going like this is this is fucking happening. I'm doing this.
Speaker 3:That's a really good question. I think it starts with a little bit prior. Is that I think? For years? Not, I think I know, for years I've been saying if I could get paid to speak and write, I'd be a really happy woman. And I say it over and over again if I could get paid to speak and write, I'd be a really happy woman. And there's a lot of people who, when you look at me from the position, from the outside, from everything that you've just heard, I have a podcast, I have an author, I'm an author of multiple books, I have been speaking for years, I have been on big stages and the difference being that when you're in that, like a lot of people think that there's like a lot of I'm going to say glory in this.
Speaker 3:Or there's a lot of financial abundance and you and I both know, having run podcasts for years, that like, yes, this is an amazing medium, but it takes time to build an audience. It takes time for things to come out of fruition monetarily. From a podcast. You can go on stages I spoke on a stage, you know, in an international speaking. I've been on multiple international stages it does not mean that it equates to a penny, and a lot of people don't get that. When it comes to this experience and a lot of times we do it as speakers to be seen to get into more, into a bigger growth of people that we get in front of. We want to create as I'm going to speak for myself, but the speakers that I know, of course, we're here to create an impact and create change and help spread a message, right. So I want to get out in front of as many people as I humanly possibly can, because I know that, as you said and you went, not a big deal, changing the world consciousness planet is no small feat, right, and so we have to talk to as many people as humanly possible in order to do that, and so the other piece of it is that a lot of people will say that in order to actually get to quote unquote paid speaking gigs, first of all, some people will never take this road.
Speaker 3:Some people in this path that I've been in, that you look at from the outside and that you're in too right, justin, like it doesn't equate to that people go out and get a paid speaking gig. It means that I can go and I can give my services to people and that maybe it grows that audience and I get into my beautiful community and into my social media and into my email letters and all that stuff. And if they choose to buy from there, they do. If they don't, they don't. That's their choice.
Speaker 3:And it's a very different experience than saying I'm going to go and speak for 60 minutes and someone's going to pay me thousands of dollars, and that my my little voice, and I say this like because this is what happens in my head. Who me this little voice? What are you talking about? You want to pay me thousands of dollars for 60 minutes? Are you kidding? Oh boy, like I've had to work so hard to get my voice heard other places and I think the difference being like sometimes when we're in this, in this position and I'm you know you you might have your own parts in this too that sometimes we see it feels like I'm speaking to a whole bunch of I don't know like ghosts, right, when you know I sit on a computer like this and we put a voice out into the podcast world. I don't necessarily get a response from everybody and sometimes it's really lonely. It can be really one way, right, and sometimes it's like is there anyone out there listening? Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Right and this experience Go ahead. Like I was on a zoom call with a bunch of other coaches yesterday and one woman was. Her complaint was like there's someone stealing my material, I put it out there and then she's immediately she's creating shirts out and I'm just thinking like I fucking wish someone cared enough to steal some of my stuff.
Speaker 1:Like one person's listening A lot of the time it is, but then you, then every now, and then someone's like I just heard that episode where you did this exercise and, oh my gosh, it made my day and that could be six months a year. You never know.
Speaker 3:And it's true. And like I run into people and they're like I've been listening to your show for a year. I wait every week and I'm like how come I didn't? I want an hour, tell me, tell me, I want to hear from you.
Speaker 1:They're just quietly killing it. They're getting the good stuff, incorporating it and going on and living an even better life. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Right. And so when you go into this, into this, I think for me going into this world is like saying that I don't. I'm making the choice of that, the choice that my literal 60 minutes makes thousands of dollars versus like waiting and hoping and like in that whole experience, like, oh my God, someone really wants that and is that? It's that valuable.
Speaker 3:Oh that's the piece for me to own into which is like, wow, and it's not about the time, like we know this right. It's not about the time, like, honestly, I've been doing this for so many years that I've put in the time right, and I always say this is kind of like the the time?
Speaker 1:Time in what way do you mean, like the, the literal 60 minutes? Or do you mean the prep time? Or yes, it's not exactly.
Speaker 3:Right. So like I'm sitting here saying to you, like it's a paid professional speaker, what the what? The intention being is that you're making thousands of dollars anywhere from two and a half to 10, 25, 30, you know like down the track, there's plenty of money to be made in this experience.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And, and so when you start to like, it's thanks to myself. I'm like oh, so it'd be normal to get $5,000 cakes and I would just go once a week and do a talk for 60 minutes and that's what I get to do, and then I get to be abundantly rewarded for that and I don't have to worry about anything else besides that and everything else on top of that is this major amazingness, and that it puts you in front of the ideal clients, right, and I get paid to be in front of them, versus the way we play this here that we have to basically get in front of people.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we're paying to be in front of people, right, and so it's a very different. Even though it sounds the same, it's actually a very different switch in the mindset of it and the choice of how this plays out. You know, and like where the almost like, I guess, as far as business goes, like where the funnel starts in a different way, if that makes sense, and so it's just a different energy and it's a different valuing and it's like what I was saying just now is like it's like the plumber. You know that we pay the plumber to go in and it takes one second to knock the thing, the pipe that was like thank God you've just fixed that would but it was exploding everywhere and thank God, you knew exactly that five minutes and we have to pay you $1,000 for five minutes.
Speaker 3:Well, it's not the five minutes, it's the thousand, it's the years and years and years of experience that they've had before. And so this has been the journey for me, as I've really just been working through that mental game, which is it's not that thousands of dollars that I'm sitting there, it's the years and years and years and years and years that I've journeyed to be able to deliver this to you in 60 minutes and rock your world.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that you're. Yeah, they're gonna have an experience in 60 minutes. It's gonna impact, change their life and be something they're gonna want to tell other people about going like oh my gosh, I can't believe I got to see Carrie Spee. You should totally go see her when she's in your town. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Right, and it's a thing like, it's just like. I think, no matter how it gets played out, in this experience of being a messenger on the planet, so much of the inner game is allowing ourselves to be seen and to be valued as who we are.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, so I think you've answered my question sort of like at the intellectual of you know what's in it, what's in it for you, but that what you just told me, there's nothing that changed. You know, that's always been the case with being a paid public speaker, or I don't know, probably the last fifties, I don't know, forever, as long as there's been public paid speakers. What changed in you or your circumstances where you're like, ah, I will now finally allow myself to go for this. I will stop just making it something that like, oh, if only then to something that I am. I am doing this.
Speaker 3:That's a really good question.
Speaker 1:Do you finally decide that you're, you'll allow yourself to be happy, because you must not have been happy, because if you're like if I could be a paid speaker, then you'd be happy and you hadn't been a paid speaker, so you must not have been happy.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 1:So are you gonna finally be happy now, is that, or?
Speaker 3:just it. I ask the deep questions. By the way, anyone who's listening, he does do this. By the way, if you ever want to work with the deep questions, why only do 30 minute sessions of people can't, can't, yeah can't handle the deep one.
Speaker 1:I'm sore, I'm sore.
Speaker 3:Okay, the answer to that. It actually has a lot to do with our process. So just when I met in bookwriting, and so through the bookwriting process and through my own experience and really knowing myself in the bookwriting container and really learning where I excel best because it is a container that really sets me up to excel in a beautiful way I started to really hone into like, what am I good at? What is my best at? How does my brain function best? And if I was to live at my ultimate state, what does that actually look like?
Speaker 3:And what I've really started to come down to is especially because in human design I'm a manifestor like my job is to initiate, and so when I get in front of a group of people and they are open and willing to receive the initiation, the experience that I have is orgasmic. It's so frickin delicious to me. I'm like, oh, my God, I get to initiate people who want to be initiated and my whole body is like he leans into yes. So when I started thinking about speaking, I was like, oh wait, so people want to pay me to be initiated and I get to lean into oh, that sounds amazing. And when I really started to again honor into.
Speaker 3:Okay, what's my design? How do I function best in human design? It isn't in holding long containers. It isn't in holding communities for years, upon years, upon years. I don't have that energy as a manifestor, and so how do I financially support myself in an abundant way, knowing that these are these things that I want to be doing and how is the best way for me to do that for myself? And knowing that I have kids to take care of? And so when I walked into a podcast movement, I actually had spoken to someone recently, over that last week it's a friend of mine.
Speaker 1:But before we get into that, I want to go with it. There's a couple of terms that you brought up that I'm like. I don't know if everybody listening might actually know. I'm like, what the fuck did she just talk about? Is this Aussie speak? Is this like?
Speaker 3:Ooh, that's my speech, don't you?
Speaker 1:Well? So I think, a quick. What is human design? If course, I'll give my crack out, and then maybe you add a little bit of color.
Speaker 1:Is I look at a lot of people know astrology where it's like OK, what's your astrological forecast if you're a Pisces? What's the reading for today? It can be similar to that, and then it does is based off of when you were born, but it's a little bit more specific, and then it requires your place and your time of birth so that it can get like a whole lot of information of like what was the configuration of the universe and then kind of tell you some information about your likely predispositions of how you might operate in the world. And there's some of these things where it's like fuck, I don't want to be that way, because she mentioned that she's a manifestor which has certain qualities, and I'm a projector which has other qualities, and the biggest quality, the famous one, is that projectors are supposed to wait for the invitation, and I first heard that, like eight years ago, I was like, well, this is shitty.
Speaker 1:I just sit around and wait for someone to tap me on the shoulder and go you're good enough, justin, I want you to do this thing, but it really ends up being a lot of more nuance and a whole lot of it and it basically just gives ideas of like these are perfectly acceptable ways to be a human on Earth as well, like not everybody has to be. I love using Tony Robbins because most people know who Tony Robbins is and not everyone has to do this. Like Tony Robbins, not everyone has to go and fill up a stadium and yell and make people walk through fire like he does. There's other ways to coach people, guide people, market and other stuff, and human design is one of, I would say, many ways for people to get the breadth of human possibility.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, anything else you want to add.
Speaker 3:I would. The only thing I would add is ultimately an energetic blueprint of how you are designed to show up in the world and, as Justin said, most people when they get introduced to it. If you guys go and look, you can go and find out more about it. If you go to likehumidesignamericacom, go and check it out, you can get your chart there's information there and go and have a play. But when you find out, most people kind of a lot of people, not most, but a lot of people will have a resistance to it Because we've been conditioned to be certain ways in society, like that we're all supposed to be certain ways but we're not. And when we actually lean into the way that we are designed to live, we actually function better and live better. Things get easier.
Speaker 1:Things go easier, it's more joyful. Yeah, it's like well, if I'm going to go in sales, I'm supposed to learn how to cold call. And it's like not all sales requires cold calling, and especially if you're, like me, a projector, cold calling is probably one of the most miserable things. That's not going to work out anyway. Whereas I don't know, I probably care. You could probably cold call people.
Speaker 3:I'd be really good at cold calling people yeah.
Speaker 1:So then this is the I like it.
Speaker 3:I'd be really good at it, yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, that's the other thing. Is just because you're good at it doesn't mean you like it or want to do it, and just because you're bad at it doesn't mean you shouldn't do it. Just means maybe it'll be different or you have to figure it out or you have to have a real good reason why. So the initiation, what does it mean?
Speaker 3:To initiate.
Speaker 1:Initiate, because this is something like Coltie, like you're going initiating somebody in Ooh, right, yeah.
Speaker 3:Initiate. So OK, so if we talk, I'll do a brief explanation into the human design, which is the human design part of manifesting. So we have these different energetic blueprints and ultimately each one has their way of showing up in the world. So, as a manifestor, we are designed to, as Justin just said, initiate. I'll explain in a second. Justin just said he's a projector, which means that he's here to be a guide and ultimately he's like a lighthouse that stands and holds this beautiful light and we all want to come towards him because his guidance is so beautiful, and that is true. And then there's the others that are like 70% of the population, which are the generators and manifesting generators, and they are the workhorse, power people that just go, go, go, go, go, go, go and do, do, do, do, do, do, do. And then you have the reflectors, who are the people who reflect everything back. So that's my very, very big, brief overview. And so, as a manifestor in my job, we are 8% of the population energetically and we are the only ones who are designed to.
Speaker 3:What we just said was initiate, which means we start things. So, basically, if you can look at this whole concept as like there's a big, huge boulder on a hill and I got to start it. So my job is to push this boulder and get it started, and then Justin's probably going to guide me and he's going go Harry, push it this way. You got it. Keep pushing. You're doing great. It's very true, right? You're doing awesome, Justin.
Speaker 1:And then I take a nap.
Speaker 3:And I go OK, I'm really tired, I've pushed it, I've started it and I'm going to throw it off to a generator or a manifesting generator and they're going to go frickin' run and they're going to take it and they're going to build it and they're going to have the systems built out and they're going to be generating. They'll be all day like busy bees doing their thing. And so that's how, if we look at this together, how it all happens, and without all of us doing our part, then we don't function as well in a human society. Yeah, Does that make sense?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and so the boulder in the case is like an idea or a way of living or something like that, and you're initiating, you're instructing, going like, hey, I've started this way of thinking, this way of being, this way of living and you're getting the people listening into that. Is that kind of what you mean by you're initiating them into as a manifestor.
Speaker 3:Our job is to inform, and, ultimately, a lot of the leaders that you would have seen in the world are manifestors because of our job to be the people in the front, leading the path in informing people of what's coming, what's happening, how we move this way, how you go that way. And a lot of us are, I would say, seers or visionaries, and so that's kind of the big role that we'll play in the world, and a lot of us are here to awaken, and so we have these roles energetically, which makes sense that I would then choose to be a speaker. I'm here. My energetic design is let me come and awaken people and initiate you into a new way of being, into a new way of thinking, into a new way of experiencing life, and so that's how that all kind of plates up. Does that make sense?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, and so you've. You've been aware of this, and so now let's go to your at a podcast conference.
Speaker 3:And I see, guy, I'm gonna make the story story, but I see a friend of mine and he's gone from this. I'm gonna say free speaking. Free speaking that we hope we put a cast and net out that eventually, will you know, it does bring money back, that's for sure, like otherwise you wouldn't do it at all.
Speaker 1:I'm able to do, just like to hear themselves talk and get the, get the praise. And yeah, it's true, it's true.
Speaker 3:So he had gone from there to paid and I was asking him, like what was the thing? And he's telling, basically I hit the pavement long enough and hard enough and had gotten off around people and I was like God, that's a long road, and I wake in the next. I walk in the next day, manifest style, and I had no idea. But there's a booth, as they do at all sorts of these expos and things, and the guys called the speaker lab and I walk up, I'm like what are you guys, what do you do? And I was like, oh, my God, you have everything that I've ever wanted in a program really. And it was just like my whole manifest.
Speaker 3:Yourself said yes, like oh, and so I think part of it was like I knew, and I actually understood the container enough to know that it was going to leave me, the same way that inspirational book writer says. So I was like, oh, I'm in a container that I just I get into book writing. And we knew, I knew I'm assuming you knew the same thing when you signed up with them that you're going to end up at a book at the end of it that becomes a bestselling book, like that's the intention. If I follow what you say, this is what's going to happen. Don't go, don't stray.
Speaker 1:This is not the time to get creative In the book, but outside of the book, do exactly what you were told.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so then I walked into this place that I was like I understood the container, I understood how I can work inside of the container and understand, like, well, you've done this with enough thousands of however many people that if I just plug in here it is finally I don't have to walk this long path of like going free, speaking for years and years and years to get to that place. You're just going to tell me I can have it in three months. Yes, please. And so part of it was just like knowing who I, knowing finally, like I'm allowed to be whoever the hell I want to be, and do it in the way that feels, the way that feels for me, and not care what other people think. And there is a piece of that right like how dare you have it be so easy which isn't easy, by the way.
Speaker 1:So that was so, that was a part is like you had a notion of how being a paid speaker was supposed to go. I don't know. It sounds like very similar to like almost being a stand up comedians. Like, yeah, you know you got to do your open mics, you know you got to do you know, yeah, all that, all that stuff where it's, you know, it's just like well that you know. And especially if you've paid your dues like 2345 times in other industries, just like I don't want to fucking do another 10 year and start from the bottom and yeah, so I get it. I think there's a lot of things. That, which is why I did like going through inspirational book writers is like I want to write a book but I don't want to spend four years and I don't want to be yeah, and I don't want to be agonizing over what, what font, and you know, do I want double space or one, one and a quarter, like I.
Speaker 1:Actually I went through all that doing my dissertation for my PhD in electrical engineering, like that. I was actually a big, big part of it is all the typesetting. So it's not that I hadn't done that shit, I had done that and I knew what a pain in the ass it is for ultimately little joy and value to me. So when someone's like hey, I got the shit that's good enough to get you best sellers like, okay, and I see the value, and I'm guessing you saw that value as well, and so that, yeah, so the right guide was a big part of it. It sounds like.
Speaker 3:Yes, yes, I think part of. I think that's part of like whenever you have leaps. Really it's like that, that in some way there's a knowing inside that this is an aligned thing for you and for me it's usually, you know, what they say is luck, right, but it's not. It's like preparation and it was like. It was all there for me, right, like I could. I wouldn't gotten into the program, I wouldn't have been ready to even look at that if I wasn't in the place that I knew in myself. I'm ready for this. This is what.
Speaker 1:I want.
Speaker 3:Right. And then, when all of a sudden, it was like here I'm going to now show you and I think this is something that a lot of people actually will have a lot of resistance in in these moments is I'm going to show you how to do this really easy. And it's not easy, right, because it's not like there's going to be work in front of me and a lot of yeah not in front of me, right, but I'm going to show you how to do this in a way that you don't actually have to, like, question it or think up too hard about it. Right, like through book writing, right, I just have to say, okay, the first part is sit down and write the book. Okay, the next part is yep, all that shit's going to come up, but they know the stuff that's going to come up. They know. They know the part that it's like a conveyor belt is what they'll say, right, and so as long as I just get on the conveyor belt, as long as I keep moving down the conveyor belt, it'll work.
Speaker 1:Right, that's like you still have to do all of the all of the work and the effort to go through the process, but you don't have to come up, you don't have to figure out the process. That's. There's no, none of this. Okay, well, let me try this thing that didn't work. Well, let me try this thing that didn't work. That part's been taken away, and I don't know why, but we think that that's somehow virtuous. I think it just.
Speaker 1:This goes to, you know, the hard work being a virtue of like what you're supposed to just right grind it out, grind it out and it's like why this is who.
Speaker 3:Right, and this is that piece like. You can make a decision in these moments, and I think a lot of people will make the choice, first of all, to let that be a stopping point, because there's an investment in it. It's not wasn't out of like. Oh, by the way, here you can have everything on the silver platter, but you're not going to actually have to pay for this or think that you're going to invest your time, money and energy, right, and so this is the place where you have to. So, of course, that also means that we have to look at our time and our energy and it's like do I have time to put this? Do I have the energy to put to this? And I already had a busy launch schedule and all sorts of other things coming up in my life and I was like do I actually have time for this?
Speaker 3:And a lot of people would have said no, a lot of people at that moment right, they'll go oh, my god, this couldn't possibly be this easy. I don't have the money, I don't have the time, I'm not doing this and I've probably done it before. Let's be real, but I've never seen anything quite like this. I hadn't otherwise, I might not have and I think that those moments because there was, and I looked at them and I told them and I will be honest, like in the sales conversation I go your biggest piece that you have to, the biggest hurdle for us to overcome right now is the belief that I am the person that can, or I can, be the person who does this.
Speaker 3:It wasn't money, it wasn't that I hadn't done it in the past, it was. I have to have the belief that you also have to have the belief in me that I am the person who can show up and be this person in this program that can create this result Because it's been done. So if it's been done before, someone else can do this. Now it's just a matter of whether I can do it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, because this was the other thing is as many people that have done it. There's probably many people who have signed up and managed to not do it, despite all the best effort, the best coaching, the winning formula. My one of my coaching friends had a session with her last week and she basically is poking at me. I was like Justin, you know I can put the perfect coaching business plan in front of you and you would probably still like not do it. Like what the what the fuck is going on with you, like what's the block? And I'm just like, oh my gosh, I think I'm still using a lot of my, my, my dad's, my dad's business tactics in my own life and it's so.
Speaker 1:I had to do some inner work and that's what I did this past weekend was like, really, look at all the things of what does it mean to be in business? And yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like, because it really is like, yeah, am I, am I ready to be that person? And I'm wondering how much for you of that person is just being like happy, doing what they love, and if you've finally got to a place where it's like, yeah, I fucking, I'm that woman, I'm doing that it's totally it's totally come up in bookwriting conversations.
Speaker 3:I don't know if it's maybe it's been, since you haven't been in our weekly calls lately, but I've said it a few times in that I almost I've had to overcome almost guilt and shame that I get to come and do things in my life that literally I feel orgasmic.
Speaker 3:Doing like this is my work and I get paid to do this really like it gets, like it really, really, really, and like all these other people are like working so hard and like drained and I'm like but the stuff that actually is my work is the stuff that makes me feel so dang good and like. That's why I also knew like writing books I literally feel orgasmic most of the time. Even through the pain of writing the book that we wrote together, there was orgasmic feelings for me the whole week and it feels so good for me to do the work that I do that it's almost like well, that must be what I'm supposed to be doing. And I think a lot of people will resist that because it's like how dare we actually feel good? How dare it actually turn me on to do what I freaking love doing and then I could actually get paid abundantly for it, and then I don't have to like sell my time right again, like yes, it's still time, it's 60 minutes, but like I think of it, I'm like that's not a lot.
Speaker 1:You've done it for free, so right.
Speaker 3:I'm like oh, you want to pay me what most people might make in a month for 60? Okay, let's do that then.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what? I wonder if, like, a lot of this goes back to how a lot of our education system is is set up. Because you know, as I was mentioning the crit, the critiques, you know from my third grade teacher, you know it's like there's a lot of things listed that are good and then all the the weaknesses are the areas of improvement, and what do we put all of our effort into? It's the areas of improvements that have going like, oh wait, I'm good at all these things, let's do more stuff of that, and then let's just figure out how to get around that. I Was literally weaknesses.
Speaker 3:I was literally talking to Sam, my 11 year old, yesterday, two days ago, and we were talking about how, because I was telling them about how I've made this decision. And I said to him I was like I just want you to know, because he has some talking stuff at school, and I said I just want you to know that every. Talking like you know, getting trouble for talking, you get in trouble talking too much.
Speaker 1:Did you get that? Is that a drug, or these things words? Or Does he talk like an Aussie and they're just like so yeah, so anyway.
Speaker 3:So I was talking about it and I said when I was in elementary school, every single year I was, like I can remember, sitting away from the class next to the teacher across the room Some way, because I was too busy talking to my friends. I also was in special writing programs because my grammar, my writing, sucked so bad and to this day my mom would still tell you she cringes at reading my writing and I laugh and I say exactly what you just said, justin, because my two biggest problems in school I Am now Choosing to be paid for.
Speaker 3:It's like we can take these judgments from people and say yeah, or like that was my gift, right, it's always been, but then we smash it down and say we can't possibly have that thing that is so easy and so natural for you Be your gift that you could go make money for it right.
Speaker 1:That's wild. Well, I'm glad you've taken the leap and so I'd highly recommend anybody that Would like to hear, hear Carrie now, like you know, use the podcast and you know, see, see her, see her writings, get the books, because otherwise it's probably gonna start costing you a pretty penny Few months. So you can might as well try to get in as soon as you can so you can tell people like oh yeah, I saw, I saw Carrie talk to her. I went people 30, 30 people at a double tree at a podcast conference and Schenectady, schenectady somewhere, yeah. And then people like, oh my gosh, really, I mean I tried to get in to see your speak at Tony Robbins, unleash the power within, but I don't like Tony Robbins, it's just on marketing. I can't believe she's affiliated with that because she sold out. So I wish you good luck and you're selling out.
Speaker 3:I Don't think you'll find me on a Tony Robbins stage.
Speaker 1:I mean, he's, he's so, he's so big, where would you fit he's? He's a massive, he's a massive man, but he's in shape, I don't know. I guess I. I mean, I've been the guy, the guy has some magic, so I don't fault anyone who gets, gets into Tony Robbins. And I was done Tony Robbins, it's like it's, it's great, just yeah, I'm just be expected to be really fucking tired by the end.
Speaker 1:He's just no longer for me, and that's that's. The other thing is we all have seasons of you know who's who's, who's gonna help us now and then who's not. So yeah. Yeah, anything else we want to. I feel like this we've we've done good on this topic. I feel like we did good.
Speaker 3:I don't know. Do you want to put some? You're really good at this. You haven't put really many your insights. I feel like you have some really beautiful insights around starting new things well.
Speaker 1:So so there's there's starting something and then there's actually getting into something and sustaining it, and I think those are two very different, two different things, because I sometimes love to start something.
Speaker 1:I probably have a lot of like offers and things where I've started like I think I was gonna help people start podcasts. I think I have, you know, like 10 pages of you know equipment to buy and how to pick your hose, but I never I never just get into an actual Thank you things. Things came up that were more important and that's and that can be okay, and so I think one is yeah, if you're like there is something that is super important, find a way to get on the hook. So, like you know, carrie, I think you signing up with this, this program, where they're good, they're gonna drag you through the process, just like you know us with the book writing thing, it's like they drag you through the process. Let's. They're like, yeah, you're just gonna be a time where you're like I don't want to do this and then we're just gonna come in like poke at you and make you do it. So I'd say that is an important thing about like really starting something with the intention to become the person who actually does the thing.
Speaker 1:Don't do it alone, like put some money on it One way or the other. And that's why I you know a lot of people listening my click. This is this is like that's not, that's not cool. But it's very common in the coaching space and actually in a lot of business, to sell a product that does not exist yet, offering like, like I'm gonna teach you over an eight-week period how to become you know the Superman workout, whatever, and then once it sold, then okay, I guess I better fucking come up with the material.
Speaker 1:But a lot of software products are like that. A lot of video games now are more and more like that, where it's like you buy it and you basically Bought the beta. They're still finishing the products, but because they Sold it to a bunch of people, now they're, they're gonna finish it. So as long as you know you'll eventually deliver the goods, there's there's nothing wrong with that. In fact, that can be a good way to ensure you actually do finish the goods, because if it's well, I'm gonna, I'm gonna create the thing and then, when I've created the thing, then I'm gonna figure out who to sell it to, there's a good chance that might never happen.
Speaker 1:So I think it's yeah you could put you on the hook by paying them or have someone pay you and then you owe them. So I think that is a really good way to truly make the. The leap is yeah, I don't. I don't think many leaps actually happen by by themselves.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:There's the appearance of luck, but I I think it's just because usually we're just so, our view is so narrowed like that. That. What was it? Speaker lab, what are they called? Mm-hmm, they've probably been at like 14 other conferences You've been to, just you never noticed Guys. Probably like I've seen you walk by these things like what, finally, what do you mean, you so?
Speaker 3:It's so, it's so true what you just said, though I mean like literally, when I sent Justin a message, I told him about this, and his response was how can? I think? It's probably something Like how can I support you? And my response is basically like hold me accountable to this. And hence we're here on a podcast, because it's gonna mean that If I show up on this podcast as I say this, you better for keeping moving forward, carry.
Speaker 3:And I've told my closest friends and it's true, because I could even go into this program and I specifically told some of my closest friends because I was like you guys, I know I want to car on myself on this. Like I Can feel it. I can feel how easy would be for me to sit here and sign up for that and not do anything, and so that's why I specifically told some of my closest friends, because I was like I know you guys won't let me fall down on this, because everybody who I've told this to has been like fuck yeah, that's exactly what you should be doing, carry. And and then I get this full circle of support. That's like keep going, keep going, keep going.
Speaker 3:And I know that when those moments when I am Scared that I would all my other weird frickin, imposter stuff or whatever comes up. It'll be just a message. I'll go, hey, justin, or hey, so-and-so, and you guys will make me like, okay, go carry. But it's part of that, is actually a part of, I think, exactly what you've said, even in that, and what I've just said is being willing to even say I want the support to keep going because it means enough for me. It means enough to me to say to somebody can you please help me make sure that I keep doing this and hold me accountable to myself. I don't need to do this for me, but I need you to help me stay accountable to myself. And because we can, we can totally Cark out on stuff and when it's important enough, it's really important that we have the support around us to get it done.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then I don't know. Just, I'm thinking of you know the the whole book launching Process, which it doesn't stop. The book is always there and people could always go like, oh, how's the book doing? And it's it's one of those like I have like what I would like in my mind, and then there's like how it is, but then there's something about that question that is like supportive of like they want, they want it to be doing well, and then it's like, well, okay, how could I, how could I make it, how could I do something to support the book or whatever it makes me think like, well, I guess I could post about it or I don't know tell, I could tell the next person I meet that I have the fucking book.
Speaker 1:And so it's just like those little things, even if it's like, okay, I'm maybe not doing as big as I want to yet, I mean, even if I'm just doing 10%, that's way better than the zero. The zero that it would have been if didn't put it out there, didn't have the sport and then didn't have the people kind of coming back later and going like, yeah, what's going on with that. It's like, oh yeah, okay, I guess I, that's right, I do want to do something. And then you take at least one or two steps and yeah, all this stuff, even if it doesn't happen as quickly, whereas, big Lee, it's happening.
Speaker 1:Yeah and when you're enjoying it, when it's something that makes you feel orgasmic. Carrie's fifth Pleasure of life. From down under, I'm also available for, you know, spitball and ideas and coming up with titles and things like that. So you know, this just have to be my creative service.
Speaker 2:Gotta go to the depths your osgasm. A pleasure, just come on out to my dick.
Speaker 1:That's how they say. I'm not doing the New Zealand accent because there's a whole YouTube video when this guy, a kiwi talking about his deck, but he says it in a way.
Speaker 3:Then you go to six and get some fortune chops. I'm gonna have six of them.
Speaker 1:All right.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Let's, let's wrap up. Yeah, read your thing again, but I lost. Oh wait, I just want to tell people to you know, find you on Facebook, carry norly Kerri in, or le y1. That's on Facebook and then it's without the one at Instagram. So definitely follow it. You know, for podcasts and books and crypto and Not not too distant future, there's gonna be public speaking opportunities. So if you go to places where people speak in public, carrie will be there and bring chocolate, because she loves chocolate and dancing.
Speaker 3:So and Ask for a hug, because I ask ask, ask for it first.
Speaker 1:Yeah ask may I have? I want a hug, can I have one? And she might say yes or she might say no, but if you don't ask, you'll never know.
Speaker 3:I think that's really pretty much sums it up, doesn't it?
Speaker 1:Yeah, just like. Just like my Norwegian manager told me was working in Germany. He said it is nice boys, don't ask, nice boys, don't get. Yeah, deep thoughts. I don't know why it was so gendered, but probably Probably when he was a little boy in Norway, but I don't know. This big beautiful eyes and his sparkly skin and big eyelashes she sees guys, just look like your stereotypical Norwegian Godlike person. Where am I supposed to be doing nerd engineering with this guy? And I'm just lost in his eyes. I mean, yeah, so maybe that'll be in a future book of mine.
Speaker 3:Yeah, just speaking of new things, justin does have a new book coming.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, and I also know.
Speaker 3:Sometimes yeah.
Speaker 1:I also know not to not to talk about it until yeah.
Speaker 3:Just like I have five million more coming by the way, when you start to get into this world for anyone who's listening.
Speaker 3:And then we can wrap this by the way, because if you look at me and you say there's four and Justin, whenever he decides to put out another one or he does another thing or wherever he's going with all this, once you start you kind of can't like.
Speaker 3:It's kind of delicious and divine and wonderful and like once you do one, you kind of want to keep going and I don't know anyone, I don't, they're just amazing. So like if you, if you are listening to this and you are called into the messenger world, whether you choose to walk all the way into the path that I have, all the way straight into Getting paid to speak, or whether it is the start of going into being an author, going into doing any this podcasting, it's an amazingly and I say this because as much as I started the beginning of the saying like it's a long road and it isn't. I'm not kidding and I can say just I'm sure Justin would agree it's not like financially, the most like immediate experience of money for a lot of people to start this path, but it is one of the most rewarding I have I ever oh, yeah, and so I would say don't quit your day job.
Speaker 1:I know I haven't, you know. Oh, and also one I'll add. A word of caution is once you've decided that you want to do something completely, completely new, you really want to leap into something completely different than your everyday norm. We were talking about telling me, but the caveat is tell people that are gonna be supportive yes, probably. Don't tell your family, don't tell your close friends, because they're gonna be like, well, what if? What if there's this little voice in their head, this come up. Well, shit, what if they are six? They're not gonna want to hang out with me, and then they'll feel lonely and they'll feel sad, and they don't want to feel sad. So they'll be angry and they'll be like, well, that's a stupid idea. Do you know how much work that's gonna be? No one's gonna listen to you.
Speaker 1:So Find people that are doing what it is you want to do already, have done that, and are gonna go like that's awesome, like, yeah, how can I help you with that? Um, because, yeah, I'm an author, but I'm also a toast master. I did lots of toast masters, which is lots of public speaking, so I know the road of public speaking. I just haven't been paid yet for it, but I'm always a big supporter of people public speaking. So someone's like I'm thinking of public speaking. I'm like, yeah, do it, do it Anywhere, whatever, find a way.
Speaker 1:Yeah be careful of who. You say that I'm gonna go do this Because, yeah, your average person is gonna take a big shit on you. And it's not because they hate you even though they might say I hate you, you'll never be good at this. It's because they love you so much. They don't want to lose you in their life and they they might.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so, yeah. So when you have the friends that you can, that's that's when things are going really well, is when you have the friends that you can always say like this is what. I'm doing. They're just like yes that sounds great.
Speaker 3:I have friends like that now, yeah unless, of course you do, you're making a really bad decision and then you want the same friends to say that's a really bad decision.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's, that's true, yeah, yeah. If it's like, yeah, someone's gonna help me get into public speaking, they're only charging a million dollars, I'm about to sign over my house and like like that, no, don't know no, no no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I'm gonna do something. I I run it by a friend or two and go like oh, you don't need that shit, why don't you don't need that shit. Like You're just wasting your time at this point, like you just go do, go do things.
Speaker 3:There is a line, there is a fine line.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. So yeah, with that, let's wrap up the show. So thank you.
Speaker 3:Thanks, justin.
Speaker 1:Good, I might good.
Speaker 3:I and.
Speaker 1:You can find me, justin wink PhD, on all the socials and you can email podcast at Justin wink calm and I think I already said you'll just look at the show notes for Carrie. And thanks so much, carrie, for being on the show. It's been a delight to. We've been talking about talking on the podcast for a long time and we it happened. So thank you for taking the leap which forced another leap of you being on the show. Thank you so much and, with that, good day.