Engineering Emotions and Energy with Justin Wenck, Ph.D.
Are you ready to live a life with enough time, money, and energy? Have relationships and connections that delight you? Are you ready for the extraordinary life you know you’ve been missing? If so, then this is the place for you. I'm a best selling author, coach, consultant, and speaker who’s worked in technology for over two decades. I’m a leader in transforming people and organizations from operating in fear, obligation and guilt to running off joy, ease, and love. It’s time for Engineering Emotions and Energy!
Engineering Emotions and Energy with Justin Wenck, Ph.D.
Thriving in a Toxic World: Nutrition and Purpose with Life Enthusiast’s Martin Pytela
Are you treating the source or symptoms?
In this episode of Engineering Emotions and Engineering, Justin sits down with functional medicine expert Martin Pytela to uncover the secrets to thriving in a world stacked against your health.
Martin Pytela is a respected functional medicine expert and Metabolic Typing coach, whose mission is to "Restore Vitality to You and The Planet." With over 12,000 clients coached since 2011 and over 60,000 students enrolled in his Udemy courses, Martin has a wealth of knowledge to share on topics such as healing trauma, managing stress and anxiety, emotions, spirituality, weight loss, metabolism, longevity, mindfulness, gut health, and overall health.
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The range is a moving target. You know, in statistics, we talk one sigma, two sigma, whatever. There's this standard distribution curve. So the lab is simply telling you that you fit within the window where everybody else is, which is
Unknown:saying, because everyone else is feeling horrible and sick, and I don't want to be like them. I want to be optimal. I don't want to be average. I want to be optimal for me.
Justin Wenck:Are you ready to live a life with enough time, money and energy have relationships and connections that delight you? Are you ready for the extraordinary life you know you've been missing? If so, then this is the place for you. I'm a best selling author, coach, consultant and speaker who's worked in technology for over two decades. I'm a leader at transforming people and organizations from operating in fear, obligation and guilt to running off joy, ease and love. It's time for engineering emotions and energy with me. Justin Wenck, PhD, all right, today we're going to be talking about not just living longer, not just living more successfully, but living better, and all the ways that maybe you could live better. Or we're going to get into it because I've got a really fantastic guest here, Martin Patel. He's a respected functional medicine expert, Metabolic Typing coach. His mission is to restore vitality to you and the planet, and he's already well on his way there with over 12,000 clients. Coach, since 2011 over 60,000 students enrolled in his Udemy courses. Martin has a wealth of knowledge to share on topics from healing trauma, managing stress and anxiety, emotions, spirituality, weight loss, metabolism, longevity, mindfulness, gut health and overall health. So and you can also find out more about him at life dash enthusiast.com and life dash enthusiast channel on YouTube. And we'll make sure you have all the other stuff too, so you can find them in the show notes. But welcome Martin, so good to have you here coming. I think you're, you're currently in Canada, right? Yes,
Martin Pytela:that's where I live. Thank you, Justin, yeah, it's good to meet you and talk to the audience, indeed. Yeah.
Justin Wenck:And I think we're kind of talking a little bit about how, you know, a lot of what I do, what we do on this show, is talking about, you know, a lot of the, you know, techniques, a lot of the mindsets and a lot of the emotional aspects of, you know, living the kind of life you want to have, building the kind of business you want to have, so you can have the success with the fulfillment yet. And I've been really learning this, and this is like your specialties is that we can't ignore the physicality what you put into your system. It matters like it can be like trying to drive with the emergency brake on, you could be, you could have the most powerful machine, and you you could be the best f1 driver. But if the emergency brakes on, it's gonna, it's gonna be shit. It's gonna run like shit, feel like shit, look like shit. So curious, from all of your experience and all this stuff. What are like? What's like? The main things you know that people can do to look at, to start going like, something's not something's not working. What do they want to look at? Or maybe, what do they not know that? Yeah, that to you, is just like, this is the no brainer. But so the average American, they don't let us use our brains, in a lot of ways, the marketing and all this other stuff. Well,
Martin Pytela:you know, in in life, you need to, well, let's try the car metaphor. So you need to know where you're going, right? And then you need to have the automobile in an operating order. And so, for example, if you take this automobile and abuse the heck out of it. I'll give you a fleet. I'll give you a fleet of 12 pickups, and I put them out into the field, and I abuse the heck out of them. And each one of them will break for a different reason. In one, the engine gasket blows in another, differential leaks in another, the wheel falls off and all of that. And we will be discussing all of the different nuances of how they came apart or how they broke down. The truth is, the guys were abusing them on the road and they were not maintaining them. Yeah, that is the common cause underneath all of that, and that's what we have here in this life of industrialized Western so good, so much convenience, so much power, and yet such a screw up, yeah, and where everything
Justin Wenck:is just very much like, we're just going to focus on, what is the what is the symptom and and that's it. But we're not going to look at, well, what, what caused the system, what was the root cause?
Martin Pytela:Yeah, I think it is the pharmaceutical industry that has run, run off with the general idea of offering people an easy button, a push button. Well, I think it's actually normal for all of us to be energy conservers. We want the easy right, like we don't want to do the hard thing. And yet, in the long run, doing the hard thing usually pays more. Much greater dividends. Anyway, they have been promising. They have been promising the silver bullet. Go with me. I have the thing. You just take it and your problem is gone. But that's a lie, because they are, they are always only focusing on the symptom that that's my story. I was a happy nerd, and then I went to a dentist, and then I ended up with mercury amalgam fillings, and then my whole body
Justin Wenck:broke down, oh, because the mercury leaked out or whatever, and it continues
Martin Pytela:to leak right like it's in your teeth. And every time you choose something, a little bit of mercury gets into solution, and it just is relentless. It really breaks people down, especially those with genetics like mine, poor methylators, we are less able to get rid of toxins. It's about 40% of the population that's like that. Well,
Justin Wenck:now you're now you're getting into something. Are you saying that not everybody is exactly the same, and one size fits all? Are you? Are you saying that there can be some differences from one person to the other, and we shouldn't all be doing the exact same thing. And hold up. Hold up, Martin. Oh, let me illustrate.
Martin Pytela:I wear average. I would have one eye blue, one eye brown. I would be curly on half of my head. And I would have one testicular and one breast and one ovary.
Justin Wenck:Yeah. What location would be where. But yeah, yeah, that's the average sampling, yes.
Martin Pytela:So no, we definitely are not identical. And here's a really cool story. Back in 1930s Western a price when traveling around the world, he was mainly interesting in dentistry. That's what his he was. But what he found is that so long as the people lived on their indigenous diet, they were doing fine. They were healthy, no degenerative changes, and their teeth were awesome. As soon as they switched to the industrial diet, genetic mutations started to come in, and health was declining and lots of cavities.
Justin Wenck:So what they Yeah, the environment. The environment matters, because it's like, diet is a big part of part of environment.
Martin Pytela:But this say a boy is born in Switzerland in the year 1150 Yeah, he's going to be fed, right? Bread, aged, cheese, sauerkraut. On Sunday, they'll kill the chicken, and in February, they'll butcher the pig, right? That's that's the Swiss experience. Well, a boy born into a North African Bedouin tribe is going to be drinking camel milk, eating dates, figs and pomegranates. He'll be on a very heavy, starchy diet, right? The kid born to a North American Indian living on the plains. They are following the buffalo. They're eating pemmican blueberries, bear fat and buffalo meat, no vegetables, no no wheat. In fact, when the white man showed up in on the plains with their wheat and whiskey, it completely blow out the nutritional or metabolic capacity of these natives, right,
Justin Wenck:right? Because they had been, you know, for a long, long time. We'll just be, you know, multi generations or more, multi generations optimized for a certain type of environment, which included the, you know, the diet and the, you know, whatever liquid intakes, and other things like that. And then when it's like, oh, here's something completely different, the system isn't, isn't ready for that. Like, it's, it'd almost be like, we'll go, we'll return to the car metaphor. It's like you got a high performance machine that requires, you know, the what is it? Try a different one.
Martin Pytela:Try a different diesel engine and gasoline engine.
Justin Wenck:Oh, even better. Yeah,
Martin Pytela:right. High compression, high compression, thick fluid, high temperature, or so anyway, if you put gasoline into that engine, you just blow it up. Whereas if you put diesel fuel into the low compression, low temperature, gasoline engine. You gum it up, it just won't run. And we have a similar analogy here. In humans, some of us are really effective at converting food into energy, and others not so much. And so the ineffective people be be needing to be getting the lighter fuel carbohydrates, whereas the highly efficient people, we need to slow them down, so we need to give them the slow burning stuff, and that's fat.
Justin Wenck:Okay, so I'm curious what, where, where does somebody maybe get get started on this journey? Because I know myself, I've kind of been like, probably, for over five years now, it's kind of been slowly coming along and getting more refined. And even Justin the last few months, kind of had a realization started, you know, getting, you know, at the beginning of this year, I went to the standard thing, got my physical and got the usual, the usual test from the traditional doctor. You know, it's like, I. Feel like crap, like I don't sleep well, I'm getting bloated, I'm not feeling good, and all this stuff. And go and they run the tests, and it's like, oh, everything's within range. Everything's within range, right? Well, I found out something interesting about these ranges, and maybe you want to share what these ranges?
Martin Pytela:Well, here's the thing, the range is a moving target. This is, you know, in statistics, we talk one sigma, two sigma, whatever. There's this standard distribution curve. So the lab is simply telling you that you fit within the window where everybody else is, which
Unknown:is insane because everyone else is feeling horrible and sick and is like I don't want to be, I don't want to be like them. I want to be I want to be optimal. I don't want to be average. I want to be optimal for me. So
Martin Pytela:when you go to a regular doctor, you get the regular American experience. You need to go to the irregular doctor. So if you come visit with Metabolic Typing Advisor like me, you get the opportunity to take the metabolic typing test, and it's essentially a quiz. You answer about 120 multiple choice questions, and you get back answers to two questions. One, endocrine dominance regulates how you gain weight and lose weight, and it varies like for example, thyroid body type like mine. I think yours, too, gains weight with starch and loses weight with fat. Yeah, I've
Justin Wenck:learned the like grains, grains, potatoes can have have issues, and so it's I mostly just try to avoid them for the most. But yeah, you give me the beer guts and fats. And beer
Martin Pytela:gut is a thyroid body type effect of pushing carbohydrates. Yeah. Now the so that body type is kind of slender arms, slender ankles, like you should theoretically be able to wrap your hand around your wrist. That's that's typical for the thyroid type, slender, taller in women, all of the Virginia Secret models are the thyroid tech, everyone on them, whereas the adrenal dominant is built more like the linebacker, deep chest, massive limbs, like his calf is the size of my thigh kind of thing, and the ankle is this big. And they make awesome weight lifters. And in women, you see them playing gymnastics like they're built stocky, like Simone Biles, if you remember watching gymnastics games, she's that type. So
Justin Wenck:it sounds like getting, getting awareness of of just these, these different ways of eating for different people, and getting dialed in through it sounds like maybe functional medicine or Metabolic Typing. That can be a good a good intro for somebody to start to well
Martin Pytela:to make the point about this adrenal dominant type, they are exactly opposite. They gain weight with fat and lose weight on carby things. So you put them on a keto diet, unlike you, who's getting slimmer, they're putting on weight like it's going out of style. If they want to get slim, they have to go on a fruit salad and veggie salad and that sort of thing.
Justin Wenck:Yeah. And so it really is. It's about figuring out what works best for the individual, not just, oh, this diet works. Supposedly, it's like, yeah, it's just about any diet will work for some group of people. I almost, well, it's
Martin Pytela:a statistical thing, like America is really interesting in this, in the fact that we are now a melting pot of everything. You can have a Norwegian grandmother and an Arabic grandfather, it's a possibility. And, oh yeah, which side gets the upper hand right? Is it the carbo dominant grandfather, or is it the protein dominant grandmother that's going to drive your nutritional needs? And
Justin Wenck:it, and it could be either, either one, right? I mean, that's the way that it's kind of work. There's no, there's no. I remember, you know, back in high school, it's like, well, you have, what is it that the two white rabbits and one has a recessive gene, and it's like, yeah, Greg Gregor, you could have a black rabbit from two white rabbits.
Martin Pytela:Yeah, yeah. Well, or you take one really black person, one really white person, and you get going to get one really white, one really black, and two sort of in the middle, yeah, 32 of them, you're going to have the whole scale, maybe statistically, right? Yeah,
Justin Wenck:and, and, well, and then the other fun thing about statistics is, just because it's like, it's, it's a quarter of this, half this a quarter, that doesn't mean that's how it could play out. It could be, you run that experiment, everyone could be exactly all the kids could be exactly the same, all you know, or not, or,
Martin Pytela:This is the coin toss, but the coin has 32 sides, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Justin Wenck:And there's, there's nothing that says you cost toss the coin 32 times. You're gonna get all 32 options. You could get one option 32 times in a row. There's nothing that prevents that from happening. It's unlikely, but it's still so, yeah, I like to kind of say that, like, it doesn't matter if something works 90. 9.9% of the time. But if it doesn't work for you, it doesn't work for you so but if something only works for you and doesn't work for anyone else you know, just do what works for you. Now, when we're talking about going creating public policy, that's a whole other thing, but when we're talking about personal health,
Martin Pytela:let's get into that. So we have this Metabolic Typing. So one answer is your endocrine dominance, how you gain weight and lose weight? I can tell you after you fill in the questions which you are. So if you're struggling, I can easily show you how you could stop struggling. And the other part is the metabolic dominance, and that actually dictates how you alkalize and or acidify. And that's important, because if you start alkalizing, you get up late, you procrastinate, and if, if you get even more alkaline out of the range, you'll get despondent, dark moods, even depressed, like you can totally make yourself depressed by pushing yourself to alkaline. Okay, the acidic person gets up early and is highly motivated from the get go like they are the go getter. Just do it. However, as you acidify, you end up with being abrasive, no social graces, cutting people off, interrupting and if it gets even further out rage, road rage is just a greater example of cutting into traffic, right? Yeah and yeah. So this rage, that's an externally expressed thing, but it could be also internally expressed, where that that leads to anxiety you would be processing your past, reliving what you wish you didn't do, or wish you did do, or whatever, just rehashing the past. Or some people project themselves into the future and just paint horrendous pictures of all the stuff that's going to go bad.
Justin Wenck:I think what I really like appreciate about this is that all of the things that you're kind of talking about, usually, we would just say that, well, there's, this is only related to very specific, you know, mental health things and, like, yeah, maybe, you know, okay, maybe there's needs to be some therapy, or there needs to be some, you know, some emotional regulation tools or, or, you know, like we were talking pharmaceuticals, or, You know, we need to, you know, we need to, you know, do some pharmaceuticals, but it very rarely, if ever, would there be any talk of, you know, there's that. There's the hangry too, of like, well, maybe you were just just hungry. But this is going a whole other step through where it's like, no, no, no. It's not just just eating, yes or no. It's maybe, what are you eating and what have you been eating? Or when are you eating or not? What is your physical characteristics that go into what we would usually just describe as like? Well, these are just mental or emotional challenges happening that that in our Western way, we like to like, well, that's that's separate from the physical body, the physical, you know, chemical, biological, yeah. So just kind of love, love this, this lens of how we are. We're interconnected. We're complex, interconnected systems. And you can't just, we can't just ignore one, one part. Well,
Martin Pytela:let's go with the hangry model. So there are four corners of this. You can be either overly alkaline or overly acidic, and you have two different axes. The oxidizers are alkalized by fats, the autonomics are alkalized by carbs. So they're each other's opposites. So if you are a fast oxidizer, you wake up early in the morning, and the longer you don't eat, the more acidic you become. But the thing that fixes your acidic dysregulation are fats and proteins. So your put me back together. Breakfast is eggs and steak and sausage and grease that sort of stuff. Yeah, yeah. Whereas, if you're the sympathetic dominant, that would make you even worse. Instead, you need to be taking carby things like fruit salad, start your day with a grapefruit and graduate into apples and bananas.
Justin Wenck:So it's like, what's what's medicine for one person is the is the fuel to the fire, more poison for the other.
Martin Pytela:Localizer, acidify depending on what you do and what your model is. And so this, this Snickers bar. Interestingly, it has some fats in it and it also has some sugars in it. So there it's hitting both sides right, one foot on the gas, one foot on the brake, and the whole thing is going like this.
Justin Wenck:And so it's like something's happening. I don't know if it's good, but it's happening. We
Martin Pytela:should probably say this, you should be able to regulate your emotions by your food choices. Figure yourself out. Figure yourself out. You'll get either calmed or irritated by this food. And so if you take fat alone, like a spoonful of coconut oil, yeah, and wait 20 minutes, it will either sedate you. You or make you more stimulated. If you're sedated, you're an oxidizer. If you're stimulated, you're an autonomic and then you test it with the opposite here. Here's a good example. Cocktail parties where alcohol is served, the oxidizers are slowly becoming more acidic with each succeeding drink, and so they are becoming louder and more argumentative, and they may even pick a physical fight, and they cannot sleep. They just keep going, Yeah, whereas the autonomic starts with being jovial and friendly and just really up, and then then gets into oversharing, starts telling things that they regret later, and finally they start crying about it and fall asleep. I
Justin Wenck:feel like you, you were watching me while I was I went to college. I feel like you just described my your experience, yeah, because I could never understand the angry drunk type, because I was just like, yeah, you just go, you have fun, and then you're happy, and all of a sudden, and then all of a sudden, it's not and there's a lot of crying, and then, like, Okay, now it's, now you pass out now. So
Martin Pytela:now you have defined the autonomic so that's, that's you, right? So for you, if you want to have a sleep after dinner, you will have carby things. So to you, a an one ounce of brandy or something scotch, is a calm me down, right, right? That's a settling down thing.
Justin Wenck:And that was one bottle of scotch or brandy. Was a one? No, one ounce, okay,
Martin Pytela:a little bit your body will easily metabolize. About an ounce. Two ounces are difficult. Three ounces are dangerous, yeah,
Justin Wenck:so I'm, I'm curious, Martin, how did, how did you get into this? What is, what was the the motivator? How'd you find yourself in this? Because, I mean, I maybe I'm optimistic, but I like to think that you're, you're, you're in a good space at a good time, where I like to think that it's getting easier, you're probably starting to get some traction. But, man, I'm sure you know, you first really got into it, but it's an uphill battle to try to take the McDonald's away from somebody. I mean, I
Martin Pytela:was 25 just got out of university. I had Computer Science and Business Administration in my background. Anyway, I ended up with mercury fillings that completely broke my body because I was unable to detoxify. That's my genetics, yeah, and things went downhill. And I, of course, I was fully indoctrinated. I believed in doctors. I believed in professionals. People who have a degree and a diploma and a white coat to boot, have to be thinking ecologically, and they have to have my the customer interest in their mind, first and foremost, yeah, no, that's not how it happened. It's a business, and I was a customer and an opportunity to make some payments on I don't know what the yacht or the new car, whatever it was,
Justin Wenck:yeah, and I will say that like I do. I knew, I know there's tons of well meaning, you know, doctors and medical practitioners, whatever, and sometimes even as as well meaning, good hearted, the this, there's, there's others in the systems that have that profit motive, the other thing like that. So even if you are dealing with someone that they don't, they don't care about the not the yacht, they're the most whatever they they have other people in their thing that that do have these motivations and things like that, and it's not necessarily up to them. And I've met so many, talked to so many, where they're just like, Yeah, I can actually help people the way I want to help people. So there's so many medical doctors, nurses, dentists, whatever, that that go into these other fields, because then they can actually help people the way that they know they can. Yeah, to
Martin Pytela:explain, the people are well meaning, but they're in a system, and the system is actually controlled by the insurance companies, and they are absolutely the parties responsible for the disaster that we are experiencing. They are the ones who are talking about performance, they are the ones who are pushing the doctor to have six minute appointments instead of 30 and yeah, they are the ones like, for example, my own experience, right? Things were done not because they were right for me, but because they were insured.
Justin Wenck:Yeah, anyway, it's insured. You can bill and
Martin Pytela:I would get paid. I would so ban all insurances, just all of it, everything should be out of pocket now that we are actually having to think whether it's effective. Yeah, on
Justin Wenck:it's what's interesting is I have, like, really, I have really good insurance. Yet more and more, I find that most of the stuff I actually end up doing, I end up being going out of network, paying out of pocket. Yeah, anyway, it's like, the stuff that is in network, it's like, it's like, this isn't actually helping me. This isn't actually good. Or I don't like this. I don't like the service, I don't like the experience, I don't like the results. And. I've also gotten into, actually, you know, for, for some things, actually going out of country, where it is, where it is, like, they're based on reviews. It's, you know, there's market rates and things like that. Like, I got, I got gum tissue work done in Mexico a couple years ago. It was the greatest experience. So such a good price. I got, like, you know, probably the top five person in Mexico for that to work on me. I
Martin Pytela:would say that the dentists in Mexico are every bit as good as the ones on the north side of the border. Yeah, and they charge you maybe a 10th of the price, yeah, because they don't have the insurance company telling you how much you need to charge. Like, I don't really want to go too deep into the politics, but I want to tell you, it's the devil itself. I promise that it's the insurance company that has created the monster of a health CIS healthcare system that we have here now. And it's not better in Canada. If you think that socialized medicine is good, it's not because here's, here's what it should be. It should be single coverage, government or private. I don't care, but one coverage and multiple providers where I, you know, when I go to a hotel, I choose among the seven or eight that are there, and they're competing with one another for service. Yeah, when it comes to the health care, they tell me which doctor, and they tell me which hospital, and they tell me which standard of care I get to experience.
Justin Wenck:So there's, there's just, there's no choice on any level. He
Martin Pytela:took it away. It's the most socialized communist, horrendous thing that they have done under the guys of free market, okay, nothing like that out there. I promise you. Anything that ever helped me with my health was cash out of pocket. Anything that I ever did under insurance was not a contribution to my well being
Justin Wenck:well because, I mean, I think there's something about, you know, transparency, of knowing, you know what the motivation is, what the cost is of things, because I always find it ridiculous. Whenever I see the the billing going back and forth with insurance here, like just, just a few months ago, I did a I did a zoom, a zoom doctor visit. It lasted like six minutes. I had a sty in my eye, and I I just needed the prescription for the cream or whatever. I'd had one before that. They build $500 for that, that six minute video call service, service, quote, unquote. And then my insurance steps in and goes, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, that's ridiculous. 363, that's, that's a fair price. And then that, you know, that's then I have to pay that because, you know, I have some giant deductible or whatever. And I'm like, they both are crazy for six minutes of
Martin Pytela:yeah, if you had gone to the to a cash clinic, to a doctor who's not in insurance, he would say, Well, it's, that's probably about $27 Let's go, yeah, yeah. All right, yeah, it's great. Yeah, good, yeah, oh yeah. Well, yeah. So about health, right?
Justin Wenck:Well, so, so, so basically, you kind of, you had your a personal health crisis with your filling Mercury poison and and basically, it sounds like it went from bad to worse, because it sounds like you didn't get the the care that would have actually, well immediately started, probably to help you out, but it actually prolonged your suffering. I
Martin Pytela:was seen by doctors, chiropractors, the naturopaths and all kinds of esoteric stuff, yeah, and and all of these well meaning practitioners were not asking, what is the cause of this? They would simply look at the symptom and treat it, yeah, which is the illness of this society? I'll give you an example, the war on drugs. Yeah. We are chasing entrepreneurs, the dealers who are trying to make a buck instead of asking, what is it in our society that young people are so distraught, so broken emotionally, that they're trying to numb themselves from feeling what they're feeling? Yeah, because
Justin Wenck:it's one of those, like, if you're mostly enjoying life, and somebody's like, Hey, do you want this? You want this, this drug that'll, you know, for about two and a half hours, you're gonna feel to the moon or nothing, and then you're gonna feel like garbage until you get your next hit. You know, the A reasonable person that's is gonna go like that sounds like a horrible deal, like no thank you. And I've been that person because I was so scared of drugs most of my life. And then I think it was a few years ago I had, I was seeing someone, and she was, like, into that. And so she's like, Hey, do you want to try this? Try that? And some of them, like, Absolutely not. And then a couple of like, okay, fine, let's try some ketamine or something. And I'm just kind of like, I don't know. I'm like, I don't get it. Like, I don't know, I guess, I guess it was fun, but it's how much like, I'm just like, No, thank you. I don't want pass. Yes.
Martin Pytela:Well, you see, when you are living a purposeful life, you don't have a need to numb yourself, whereas when you are indeed purposeless, let's call it that, right? When your life sucks, you want to make it feel less sucky.
Justin Wenck:Yeah, right. So that's, that's you don't want to feel or you want to feel less sucky, and you'll don't pay almost anything to do that, you know, not necessarily money, but also, like, you know, you I don't know, thinking of just, you know, going out and, you know, getting drunk, and then it's like, what it's not just what you paid for the alcohol, but it's also, then there's the hangover the next day and all these other other things that you've been talking about that it's like, the price to pay. And it's like, why would you Why did you pay that price? You know, it's like, when I was younger, I was hap I happily paid it. But now I'm just like, oh, no, thanks. I got stuff. I got important things. I want to do. I want to I want to go hype tomorrow. I want to, speaking of emotional
Martin Pytela:health, 75% of prescriptions filled in a pharmacy are, in fact, for emotional altering either anti anxiety or anti depression. Yeah, let that sink in. 75% of prescriptions filled are for mind altering substances. It
Justin Wenck:makes sense, because it's like most of the physical related stuff. People don't really get into that until they're they're much older in life, whereas all these mental, emotional things, it's like, what they kids start what age 10 or something, with some of these various things, and, you know, can take them for a lifetime. So let me
Martin Pytela:try an example. So birth control pills dysregulate estrogen in women, and the side effect is depression, so they are on birth control pill plus and SSRI, yeah, we try and cope with that, yeah. Instead, they should just be happily pregnant, barefoot too, I
Justin Wenck:guess I I'm wondering what algorithm we're trying we're trying to optimize for with that, with that statement. Oh, no, I'm just being
Martin Pytela:silly here. Yeah, okay, but truly Right. Like, I remember my wife, seven months pregnant, was about as balanced as anything. Like she was completely not. Story unperturbable, right? Couldn't get to her. She was just cool, chill and looked great, felt great. Everything was awesome. Yeah?
Justin Wenck:So because, yeah, when, when we're Yeah, you know, have our purpose when we're in alignment with our body, you know, with our with what we're meant to do. And that changes over time, too. So, you know, it's like, okay, we're getting ready to have, create and have a baby. It's like, Yeah, that should be a happy, joyous time, if that's all in alignment. And so let
Martin Pytela:me try a bit about nutrition again. So we have this emotional stuff that can dis regulate us. I just explained that if you are overly acidic, you'll be riddled with anxiety, stuck in the fight or flight stress side of things. And if you're lacking, and that's that's calcium drive, by the way, so if you're lacking magnesium, that's going to undo the dominance of that, and it's very common, because magnesium is deficient in all of our soils. So if you're not supplementing nutrient nutrition, that is that way you're suffering. Now the most magnesium rich food is chlorophyll. Chlorophyll is the same molecule as your hemoglobin. Hemoglobin has iron at the center and chlorophyll has a magnesium at the center. Otherwise they're identical. So if you eat a lot of green stuff, chloraspiruna, wheatgrass, barley grass, all of that sort of thing, right? You're going to be balancing your body. In fact, it's the most parasympathizing Or taking you out of fight or flight toward rest, repair and digest food that there is magnesium and chlorophyll, go figure, right? Yeah. So if you find yourself nervous, and you need to reach for those type of foods, and you also need to figure out what alkalizes you and do that. So in your case, that's carbs, but if you overdo carbs, you're going to be fat, so you'll be a fat happy
Justin Wenck:so it's about, it's about balance, ultimately, right? Well, my individual myself, I'm
Martin Pytela:a different type, and I could be a skinny bitch, right? Yeah, so that's, that's part one, part two, the nutrition itself, right? The Industrial Age has given us phenomenal powers to make things, but design, our human design, is actually we would do better on natural things, rather than process things. So the the industrial agriculture is pushing foods to grow fast with fertilizers, so they look great, but they're actually grown too fast. They don't have the nutrient density that you would have when you grow it slow.
Justin Wenck:Yeah, they have the look and they have the flavor, but they don't have the same nutrient profile that right? So, like, a straw, like the modern strawberry is, I guess, dramatically different, because I was reading, I don't know, Autobiography of a Yogi, which is a Yogananda, maybe, but he has, he talks about, he was, like, around, like, the 1930s I think that was what he was the period of time. And he's talking about strawberries, and it's like, oh, these tart, these tart things need some, like, whipped cream. And I think to most people today, like, wait, what a strawberry is bitter? It's like, yeah, strawberries used to be bitter, like that you had sugar or some sun sweet, go with them, and now you just pop it like candy, because it is. It's been modified to be
Martin Pytela:selected, yeah. The best example is a tomato. These days, you buy a tomato, it looks awesome. It's a beautiful little red blob, but it's stiff and it's almost tasteless, yeah? Like, if you take a tomato off of a thing that you grew in your own garden, and you pick it ripe, it's a very different experience, yeah?
Justin Wenck:And that's, I think that's the to kind of go get away from this idea of like, well, this, I've always eaten this food. It's like, now you haven't like, you know, even if it's been because I think there's something, I've heard something, that even just within the last like, 1010, or 20 years, like, the additives that get out of the process, like the US allows some like, hundreds of more additives that they basically don't even allow it in the other part of the world. But just our system, they can go like, Oh, in the lab, we think this isn't going to harm people, but boom, there it is. It's in your I saw chips or whatever. I saw
Martin Pytela:Robert Kennedy just recently pop up and says the Fruit Loops in Canada are different. They have fewer ingredients. The New York Times jumps over him and says, they don't have fewer ingredients. They just have different ingredients. So you're wrong. Well, the difference missing
Justin Wenck:the missing the point on that, on that stage,
Martin Pytela:you know, in Canada, they use blueberry color and carrot color and beet color to make the orange red and blue, yeah, whereas in US, you have the red number five and the blue number two and yellow number four. I don't know the numbers right chemicals, yeah,
Justin Wenck:and yeah. Like, what we've been eating isn't necessarily what we've been eating, and it's just, like, gotta really read the ingredients, or even, yeah, like there's just a lot more going on. To Be careful. Let's
Martin Pytela:go to where that the baseline is the five refined things that kill you, refined flour, refined sugar, refined plant seed oils, refined salt and dairy that's been homogenized and pasteurized. Those are guaranteed to cause you ill health, and yet they are the basis of most of our nutrition, especially people on food stamps, are practically forced to eat that because the big agriculture has gotten themselves some huge subsidies on wheat, soy, corn, dairy and dairy, those are the most subsidized foods. So pizza is highly subsidized, of course, visualizing
Justin Wenck:and it's highly delicious. It's a horrible it's a horrible combination.
Martin Pytela:It's awesome. Well, look at fair well, and
Justin Wenck:I live across from a Domino's Pizza. So you can imagine when I didn't know some of this stuff, what, what was going on
Martin Pytela:well, so visualize this right in weeds. There actually is a substance that is when digested and absorbed it, it essentially is like morphine in your brain, like it really is. It's addictive anyway, the the biological point, and Italian,
Justin Wenck:all the company, all the companies, know this, right? This is, this is only news to to me, and some into the people listening, watching this, but to anybody who runs a giant multinational, you know, for profit company, they, they know that. They know this is, this is what, what's happening, right? There's no way you don't know this. Yeah, yeah,
Martin Pytela:yeah, totally. I mean, if you leave me alone with a bag of Doritos, you break it open, you give me the first one. Yeah, I'll, if I, if I take it, I will find some emotional twists in my head to say, just one more, yeah, yeah, until they're all gone. Yeah, it's, it's irresistible. But anyway, going back to pizza. So pizza was invented for Italian farmers, right? Like, it's, it's high energy food. When you are working in the fields or in the forest or whatever you're doing physical labor, you're putting out 456, 1000 calories a day. No problem eating pizza. Mm, hmm. But anyway, that there was a, there was a study done they give, gave people two weeks to eat two satiation to satisfaction, yeah, on the processed foods and on the healthy foods. And at. End of the two weeks, they added up all the numbers. And it was that, on average, people eating the processed food consumed 500 more calories a day. No, I believe it, yeah, which is about a pound of fat a week.
Justin Wenck:Yeah, that's huge. I mean, I think, I think you see it, and I think people feel it and and I sometimes wonder if, because it is seems so challenging that I that it's just like, why even bother? Let's just have, let's just have some pizza. Have some toritos. Have a have, have have some beer.
Martin Pytela:Well, you're having the same reaction as the let's have some cocaine or let's have some whatever, right? Oh, yeah, because these are, it's the same. Let me numb myself with food. I mean, emotional eating is a known concept, right? Yeah,
Justin Wenck:yeah. And yet, it's, it's, it's worth. It's worth because you can't just say no, you have to replace it. It's worth finding the replacement. It's worth understanding what is the what is the real medicine? What are the foods that foods, the supplements, the behaviors that actually let you feel good, so that you do get offered the Doritos. Because, like you said, you said, you rarely, you'll rarely start on the Dorito because you know, you know where it goes, just like many people know where, like, the cocaine is going to go, or the, you know this the shot of the whatever. And it's like, Wait, I don't, I don't want that. I don't want to pay that price for for a shitty experience, right? And so first let's, let's get it to the positive of like, you know, like, yep, this the systems. The system's a bit rigged. The system's kind of against you, but we also have the opportunity to opt out of that system and and start to kind of create our own system that works for us, right?
Martin Pytela:Yeah. If your audience is people who seek peak performance, they need to put a spotlight on what they're how they're feeding their body. That's that's without question. And yeah, so once you know what makes you sleep better or stay away, but stay stay awake better, then you can actually choose it right, like for me, for me to calm down. I have to eat a breakfast of fruit salad. That's that's the thing. I usually make myself a smoothie. So my fruit salad is actually liquid about, yay big. It's got blueberries and apples and bunch of green powders in it, because that's what I use for my first meal of the day.
Justin Wenck:Love that. Yeah. And I guess I'd say to, you know, the people watching listening to this, they might be kind of going like, Well, what do you, you know, what do you what are you talking about? I just, I just have my coffee, and then, you know, I have my donuts and and then, you know, I've got, I've just got this, this drive. Because if I don't do, if I don't do stuff, I don't wake up early, I don't grind or whatever, I'm going to be a loser. I'm going to be out on the street. I'm going to be whatever. So it's like, I'm going to, yeah, I'm fine. I've got way. I've got ways to make it through. I have something I'd like to say to them, but I'd be curious what you would like to say, because I'm sure you've, I'm sure you've met these people eventually that come to you. That's the something was was working for 510, 2030, years. Yeah, probably, probably, in retrospect, it probably actually wasn't working as well as they thought. And then at some point,
Martin Pytela:well, let's go back to the automobile metaphor. So when I bring it out from the showroom, new tires, right? Everything great. 50,000 miles later, the tires are practically bald. So on a sunny summer day, the traction is awesome, but then it rains and you're like this, and if it snows, you're in the ditch, yeah, so you can but what is the event that you're going to in your life equate to the rainy day or the snowy day? Well, it could be different. It could be any one thing, right? The stress of life is a string of minor problems interrupted by the occasional catastrophe, right? So let's just say that you have food poisoning that could take you down for months if you're weak, right? Like, yeah, as
Justin Wenck:opposed to just like, oh, it was just 12 hours, you know, that were really bad, and then, oh no, more or less, yeah.
Martin Pytela:It could be, it could be life altering event, or you have a car accident and you get mangled, if you have good level of enzymes, and all the other things, you're going to do fine, but if you don't, you're going to take months to recover.
Justin Wenck:Yeah, and, like, short of these catastrophes, there's still a lot of this, you know, emotional challenge happening of, you know, either being too anxious, too depressed, maybe too angry, too much of a bitch, too much of whatever. Maybe, maybe you're okay with, but maybe the people in your life are not okay with. And you know, there's
Martin Pytela:an interesting thing, Wi Fi. Wi Fi for G, and 5g in the millimeter wave. So that's, yeah, that's the 5g you know, like the gigahertz frequencies, they are actually triggering what's known as the voltage gated calcium channel. So this, this vibration, is actually coming to your body, and it is affecting your cells. Some people are more sensitive than than others, yeah. And. It causes flooding of the cell by calcium, and calcium is the signaling molecule for fight or flight anxiety. Yeah. So if you don't have some devices that are mitigating the effects, then you're fully exposed. I remember a client, she says to me, as I'm driving towards the downtown where they have the smart grid. I'm feeling a wave of anxiety rising in my body. Yeah, physically,
Justin Wenck:right, yeah. And it's, and this is one of those things where, you know different different people have a lot of different but still, I think the main thing is that our world has shifted and dramatically in the last 100 years. And I also believe that our body is incredibly resilient and can deal with lots of changes, yet it's how much stuff are we putting on us that's either helping us or harming us. And I think we've put an unprecedented amount of stuff into our systems that is, let's, let's even just, let's even, you know, let's, let's, we could even just it's harmful or neutral, or it's definitely not helping us. But so sort of, like, you know, you like, you said there's this wireless stuff that maybe, in isolation, our human systems would be able to go, like, yeah, no, I'll adapt to that. And we could say that there's, there's a benefit that we would go, that's a trade off. Like, okay, you and me being able to talk here over zoom, I'll take a minor hit, but I'm gonna be better in all these other areas. But when we add in all the stuff from, you know, what we're drinking, what we're eating, then the pollution and all this, and then now you add this other it's just like, No wonder, like you said, what is it? The majority of prescriptions are for mental, emotional, whatever, because it's like, it's not just the emergency break. It's like we have the fucking boot on the tire too. You know, the interesting
Martin Pytela:part, a metaphor for the immune system could be something like the A camel, the last straw that broke the camel's back, right? And the mainstream pharmaceutical, medical, they like to isolate things. They will say, Well, did my thing break you? And of course, statistically, not necessarily. But here's what you do. You're loading up the camel with loads, and the camel doesn't care one bit what's in that 25 pound bag that you just added. And you keep adding right at 200 pounds, the camel's Okay. 300 pounds, No more running. 400 pounds, no more uphill. 500 pounds, meals down and says we're done. Yeah. So that's what happens to us as we go right, like we keep wearing, we keep adding to the load, and at some point it's over,
Justin Wenck:yeah? And it really is the, you know, what we're putting into our systems day after day, yeah, what we're feeling is going to have the some of the biggest, the biggest impact on Yeah, on weight, on how our joints feel, on, you know, our mood and all these things, and to just, yeah, it's an important part of overall health, well being and longevity. Because I think I can get like, why some people would be like, I don't. Why would I even want to live to age 100 like, it's already so shitty now, and it doesn't have to be that way. It doesn't have to be that way.
Martin Pytela:Well, happiness, we know, is found in a pursuit of where they go. So you need to have something to live for. I mean, if, if at 80, you decide that there's nothing useful coming, then you may as well unplug it. Yeah, and
Justin Wenck:I, for the longest time, I was like, I don't exactly, what am I? What am I here for? What am I what? And to me, one of the biggest things that helped was just like, my purpose can be exploring what my purpose is. That that can be, that can be a great purpose for as like, as like, Well, I would just want to, I want to be able to try stuff out. So maybe that's I want to try. These are all things I've actually done. I want to try massage school. I want to try yoga teaching, you know, what like, you know, try acting or what you know, it's like, but maybe you don't like it, but it's like, hey, if I'm healthy and feeling good, and then I can try the next thing and the next thing, and that can be and then eventually, I think we all do finally hit the thing of like, oh, this is my, this is my, this is my real thing, right?
Martin Pytela:Well, most, most times, things are found in service to others, right? Whatever it is. I mean, we are a collaborative species, right? Even, even as an architect, I'm designing a house for someone. Even as a I don't know dishwasher, I'm cleaning the dishes for someone. It's, it's always doing for others, yeah. So even I don't know, if you don't know what to do, just go try wash some floors somewhere.
Justin Wenck:Is, you know, at the very least you end up with some clean floors and some a sense of accomplishment, yeah, and a sense that the world is different. This world has shifted because of something that that was done, and most people's work isn't like that anymore. And I think that's, that's one of the things, is that that tangible, like something has shifted. And I'm, I'm really grateful to, you know, have this chance to talk to you and see how you're you've been shifting people. And I you know, you, you're prolific. You got so many videos on YouTube and posts and things like. That. And I, I, I just, I just love it. I think you're, you're an inspiration, and also a been a benefit with putting this stuff out, that a lot of it's not popular, even though it's getting more popular. But, you know, trying to tell people, you know, eat this, not that like, because food some bit of religion in some ways, and so I'm glad you're doing the good work. Any any last, any last thoughts, or anything you want to leave people with, vote
Martin Pytela:with your wallet whenever you make a purchase, decision, decision, you're buying something. Whatever you buy, that's an order to for the to the manufacturer to make more of it. So be judicious with what you're buying, because when you're feeding the unworthy, the ones that are poisoning you or making you sicker, you're actually digging your own grave with your fork, so to speak. Just think about Yeah, so
Justin Wenck:they wouldn't make this stuff if we didn't, if we didn't buy it. Yeah? But the con, the cons, the other is true, is, yeah, you know, even though we didn't get into the or debate about organic, but, you know, there's more organic stuff because more people buy into, right? Yeah, we can debate, you know, how good, and all that, blah, blah, blah. But things, things have shifted. Things will continue to shift as we get as we get more educated, and we start choosing things like that. So I love that. I think that's a great, empowering thing. Yeah, make
Martin Pytela:it clear and specific. Things that are smelly with industrial artificial fragrances are bad for you. Don't buy them. Don't consume them. Make judicious decisions about the stuff you put on your body, whether it's shampoo or makeup or whatever, whatever you put on gets through. If your lipstick is beautiful because it has lead in it, you're poisoning yourself with
Justin Wenck:it. Yeah, and even
Martin Pytela:Yeah. Well, just an example, water, right? This water is in a glass bottle and has never been in plastic. Why? Because BPA leeches into water and causes dysregulation of your hormonal system. So when you go buy a bottle that's in plastic, that bottle sat on a truck somewhere out there in sunshine, in heat, yep, and it got close to cooking. Okay, so that plastic has leached into that water, into that water. Do not buy plastic bottles.
Unknown:Easy glass, so convenient. Bring
Martin Pytela:it from home, and by the way, put, put some of these. See these little rocks in it? That's called the crystal Pearl we sell that that's a water structuring device that makes the water better hydrator than otherwise. Little things like that. There's so many.
Justin Wenck:There's so many amazing, fun things you can get to when you start to make your health a focus that and then, and then, The great thing is, you end up feeling better, and then you get more excited. And, yeah, so, so Martin, I know we want people to go to life dash enthusiast com to find out more info about you and your services, products, things like that. And also, you have your YouTube channel with lots, lots of great videos. It's at at life dash enthusiast. And then I know you're also on Facebook, Instagram, x, and we'll make sure we have, because you have because you have various things for that, we'll make sure we get that in the show notes, any anything else that you want to make sure people don't don't miss.
Martin Pytela:We do offer an individual consultation. When you call at life enthusiast, you actually get your questions answered. This is not some anonymous buying on Amazon where you click and you get stuff sent to you, we actually will take the time and energy to help you understand what you should get and why. I
Justin Wenck:would highly recommend that, because this is one of those that for most people, it's you're it's so wrecked that you just do anything different. It's gonna it's gonna benefit. And I know Martin and the people you work with, it's, it's going to be it's going to be great, and it's so much easier with another person, with some human to help you out, to guide you through this. Because it is, it is complicated, but, I mean, it's not, it doesn't have to be complicated. It can be easy. It can be simple, and you can feel good faster. And so this, this episode will be coming out right before Christmas. So I'd say, check that out sooner, even get started before the new year, or maybe get that that appointment set, so that you start the new year off, right? Because you don't need to wake up, you know, January 1 feeling, you know, super fat and hungover and all this stuff. It doesn't that you can start the new year off feeling great and feeling awesome. And that's how I'm going to start it up. And I'm sure Martin, that's how you're gonna start it off, too, right? Feeling good. Yeah. Many thanks. Yeah, thanks, Martin. Thanks so much. And thanks to everybody listening. Thank you and good day. Thanks for tuning in to engineering emotions and energy with Justin Wenck PhD. Today's episode resonated with you. Please subscribe and leave a five star review. Your feedback not only supports the show, but also. Helps others find us and start their journey of emotional and energetic mastery. You can also help by sharing this podcast with someone you think will love it just as much as you do together, we're engineering more amazing lives you.