The Business & Pleasure of Flowers
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The Business & Pleasure of Flowers
The Journey Continues: Happy Anniversary to Us! (Our Annual Anniversary Episode)
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Episode 158: It's anniversary time! Flower Clique and our podcast are celebrating three years, heading into year number four!
Ellie LaFever and Kami Martin join Vonda and Lori to answer these three questions:
–Is it what you thought it would be?
–What was your biggest surprise?
–What is one thing you hope to achieve in 2023?
Join us for some really good reflection and fun insight. ❤️
Sponsored by:
Flower Clique
Flower Clique Prep School
Real Life Retail Florist
Not that I didn't expect it. I, I didn't even think about it, really. We joked about thinking we were gonna have more free time. <laugh> . Yeah. <laugh> ,
Speaker 2Welcome
Speaker 3To the business and pleasure of Flowers. We're your host Fonda La Fever
Speaker 1And Lori Wilson . And we believe that business and fun are a perfect combination, kind of like us. Wanda <laugh>.
Speaker 3Happy New Year,
Speaker 1Lori . Happy New Year. Happy 2023. Fonda 23 . And our two surprise guests. Surprise. Hello, it's us. We've got Cammy and Ellie here today. I think we say Happy New Year and happy anniversary ladies.
Speaker 4Happy. Happy anniversary.
Speaker 1Happy anniversary.
Speaker 4Making this a tradition, aren't we?
Speaker 1We are . We are . Whether you like it or not . <laugh> . I
Speaker 4Like it .
Speaker 1We're gonna meet , we're gonna have one meeting a year, cam , where we all get together and decide, Hey, how are we doing
Speaker 4<laugh> ?
Speaker 1I like you're right . Just one . Just one.
Speaker 4Never meet . Cause we never meet. I never see your
Speaker 1Faces . No, no, no.
Speaker 3It's hard to believe though. We've just finished year number three, starting year four.
Speaker 1Yeah. I never get on LinkedIn, but sometimes when I'm bored and there's a football game on that I don't care about, I'll check LinkedIn and I checked it last night and I had these, so and so congratulated you on your work anniversary. Ended it . I'm like, what? Work anniversary, like <laugh> . Oh yeah. Yeah. <laugh> . Anyway, it was, it was crazy because I can't believe it's three years going into four. I know, right? It's wild.
Speaker 3Yeah. So how was Christmas
Speaker 4Everyone? You know, it's still for me, it's still exciting. Um, I have 13 year old triplets, as you guys know. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, maybe the audience doesn't all know that, but I just wanna share a couple funny things from this year. Um, so my husband works at a energy producing company, you know, and they burn, they burn coal as one of their sources of energy . And he always tells him he's gonna put coal, give him coal for Christmas this year. He literally brought Cole home. Okay . And wanted me to wrap it. Wanted me to wrap it. And , um, we did, we wrapped up the coal and had it be their first present that they opened <laugh> and Oh my
Speaker 1God ,
Speaker 4The look on their faces. And we, we wouldn't have done it, you guys if we didn't have like, amazing gifts under the tree, you know what I'm saying? Like, we knew we were gonna blow their socks off this year because the second gift they opened was an iPhone. Oh , wow . And these
Speaker 1Kids , oh wow .
Speaker 4These kids have had like dumb phones, you know, and they've kind of been in , in their words, they have been the last, you know, people on earth Yeah . To get at their age to get these smartphones. So they were just like jumping up and down. So excited about the iPhones. And so that was fun. And then I just think you guys will find this funny. Um, I also decided, you know, at age 13, I, some of their little friends and they're starting to show interest in wearing makeup mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And it costs a lot of money to start a makeup kit for a person, you know? I mean, yeah . So I kept looking at Christmas, so I had a lot of fun shopping around Target or Targe as Laurie calls it , right. Don't you call it that ? Yeah . I had a lot of fun. And I assembled, you know, brushes and little mascara and eyeshadow, like, just like the ba the basics, the essentials, and got all this together for 'em. And then they're like, mom, will you show us how to use all this? So I have a picture of all three of them lined up in the mirror of the bathroom and me saying, okay, this is concealer and this is to hide anybody .
Speaker 5You did a little makeup tutorial.
Speaker 1Oh, how cute.
Speaker 4I took a picture of 'em , you know, all in the mirror with their little brushes and it was just like, it was just so good. It was so good. It was a good Christmas morning, <laugh>.
Speaker 5Oh , I love that.
Speaker 3That's so cute . Cute .
Speaker 4So great .
Speaker 3Love
Speaker 4It. Such a 13 year old Christmas. You know ,
Speaker 3You would've loved have been right there with them .
Speaker 5Yeah . Oh yeah .
Speaker 4Oh
Speaker 5Yeah . It was fun. It's a girl's dream. iPhone and makeup.
Speaker 4I know times
Speaker 5Three
Speaker 4Would've
Speaker 1Been thrilled with new iPhone and makeup in my , that would've been an awful my age .
Speaker 3Yeah. We all go for that one anyway . Well, as we're celebrating number three, move into number four. Lori came up with some questions to ask each of us on the anniversary.
Speaker 1These questions are those mental wellness check questions, <laugh> each one of you to say, okay, are we still good? Can you still do this for another 3, 365 days? <laugh> ? No, they're just three questions and they're very general. And Fonda , thank you for sending those out because I forgot mm-hmm . <affirmative> what questions were, but I was thinking about all of these last night, and I think some of us might have very similar answers. Um, so Ellie, I want to start
Speaker 5With you, me first ,
Speaker 1I wanna start with you and question number one is, is it what you thought it would be starting a company?
Speaker 5So it meaning building the company, running like us
Speaker 1This flower click , let's just , let's say this is flower click present day. What your part of what you visualize it to be three years ago?
Speaker 5The short answer i , I would say is yes. Um, I would say, and this might even be the same answer that I gave last year on the anniversary
Speaker 1Episode. That's okay .
Speaker 3Nobody's gonna go back and listen to
Speaker 5Go a little bit more deeper into that loaded question. I think it's, it's a lot harder than we thought it would be, but it's also a lot more rewarding than we thought it would be. It's just like everything that you have in your head for what you wanna build and what you wanna see come to life and the ways that we can help everything is just amplified. Right? Yeah . All of the things that you thought it would be are even beyond what you imagined. Um, so, you know, we, we don't outsource. There is so much figuring it out because we have no other choice. There are so many small things that take so much more time than you thought it would. And yeah , that's just goes into building the engine that could, that is flower click . So I would say, yeah, it's what I thought it would be, but it's also on its way to being much bigger and better than I thought it would be.
Speaker 1Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Good . Good answer. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> . Cammy , what about you?
Speaker 4Very similar.
Speaker 1Same question. What is it what you would thought it would be?
Speaker 4Um, similar to what Ellie said , um, I knew it would be a lot of hard work when, you know, I knew we've gotta build it, you know, and it's gonna be a lot of hard work and it is <laugh>. Um, but my finite brain, my kind of time to build the donuts brain mm-hmm. <affirmative> mm-hmm . <affirmative> , you know , you know what I'm talking about. Like , I can just come in and do , I didn't think as expanded as flower click is, I didn't think as big as it is. And , um, all of the, you know, you guys are very much dreamers and very , um, you're always like, you're always thinking and always coming up with, with creative ways to be better. And , um, I just think we've knocked it outta the park. <laugh>. We've worked a lot. I think I probably have a few more bags under my eyes than I did three years ago . <laugh> , <laugh> , we've worked really hard. Like Ellie said, it is very rewarding. I'm very proud of the product that we have. So, is it what I thought it would be? It's more, it's been a lot of hard work, but it's, it's good.
Speaker 1Yeah. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> . It's great . Yeah . Vonda , what about you? Is it what you thought it would be?
Speaker 3I would say yes and no. Cuz I was thinking about that and I would say yes because mm-hmm . <affirmative> , I was confident we could build something that would really help shop owners. Right. And especially with the web, and now we are saying that's the part-time employee thing. Right. But I didn't think about the education part that we were really providing. I mean, we were gonna go into leadership, right? We were, we were doing stuff and we just kind of pivoted and really going into so much education that's really needed to help. Again, it goes back to helping the shop owner, you know, whether it's, you know, elevating , um, a seasoned employee or bringing on a new person. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I guess if I didn't expect that, the other part I didn't expect mm-hmm . <affirmative> was the camaraderie between our employees. Us, you know, it's Yeah . The four of us.
Speaker 1Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3I expected that, right? Because we've worked hard , but then everybody, I guess the , the camaraderie I guess between all of our team is pretty amazing and pretty special.
Speaker 1Yeah, it is . It's good . It really
Speaker 3Is. And what about you, Laurie ?
Speaker 1Well, I, I lean more towards your answer to yes and no. Um, but I lean more towards, no, it's not what I thought it was going to be, because my thinking when we started, it was just like you said, I was gonna go more into like this leadership role where I'm doing one-on-one , um, consults with people. But what's cool about that is I'm kind of glad it didn't go that way because it , we opened up all of these new paths, right? For us to be able to communicate with our members and even people that aren't members. But a lot of people buy our online courses , but they don't wanna be , um, have their website merchandise by. So I get to have conversations with those people too. So I'm still getting it. It's just not the straight path I was, I was thinking mm-hmm . <affirmative> . Mm-hmm . <affirmative> . The other thing about is it what you thought it would be, and Camie and I have talked about this a lot. Um, you know, you and Ellie, like, this is your company. You two , it is your company. Yet I did not realize how heavy of a responsibility camie and I would feel as if it is ours. Like every conversation we have, every email we send out, every, everything. I'm thinking, is this a good reflection of the company where I'm not just clocking in and clock it out? Oh ,
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, right? I mean, it's, it's so I don't, not that I didn't expect it. I, I didn't even think about it really. We joked about thinking we were gonna have more free time. <laugh> . Yeah ,
Speaker 3<laugh> , that's hilarious. But ,
Speaker 1But it's, but it's the opposite. And part of that is because we feel this huge responsibility to make sure that everything that comes out of our computer or our telephone is a good reflection of the company.
Speaker 3Let me ask , uh, kind of a follow up question to that, Lori . And you guys respond too . You feel like even though you're working all these hours, it's harder than where you were before? Or easier?
Speaker 4Oh, I'll answer. I think it's easier only because I believe in what we're doing. That's where we're so bought in. You know, this kind of leads to some answers that I had before is, well, and I just wanna piggy back on what Vonda said, the camaraderie between our team , um, is one thing. But what I ha I have formed bonds with the shops too . There's a comradery there where I don't wanna let them down either. So like Matt , you know, will be like, Kimmy, it's a Saturday, or, you know, and I'm going, I know, but they need this. And, and it's an , you know, he goes, well, you know, it's not really an emergency, you know, and you're off on Saturdays and, but it's like, you feel this
Speaker 3Like a responsibility.
Speaker 4Yeah. Yeah, yeah . Yeah . I had, I had kind of , um, thought about that too. Is is it what you thought it would be? I don't think I expected to have such a bond commitment to the jobs Yeah . Commitment. Yeah . You know , I expect to have it to this, these spaces right here. But to the shops, I don't think I expected to have such a commitment that I do. Yeah .
Speaker 1Well, and so that leads us to question number two, because that was my, that's my answer for question number two is what's your biggest surprise? Mm-hmm . <affirmative> . Um, and so I'll, I'll start my biggest surprise, number one, that so many flower shops that we already knew jumped on board with us no questions asked. Um, which I was just a miracle. Um, and I never, I didn't see developing a friendship with so many of our members, like texting, FaceTime, just like, they're right here next to me. Um, I , that was a big surprise for me , uh, that, not that I wasn't friends or friendly, but I didn't, I just didn't, I don't think I went all in like I do mm-hmm . <affirmative> with this company. And it's because I got to see them with fresh eyes and they would reach out to me instead of me always having to call and check in, make sure they're not wanting to leave, and, you know, all of those things. Mm-hmm . <affirmative> . So that was the biggest surprise for me. Mm-hmm . <affirmative> , um, in these last three years. And it was a , it was a beautiful surprise. You know, like I get Christmas cards from them and I'm like, oh yeah . Hi , golly . You know? That's so cool. So Elliot , go to you. What was your biggest aha moment or surprise?
Speaker 5It's very similar to that as well. I think the biggest surprise for me was just how supportive in , in the same way that we want to support Retail shop owners, Floris, other industry people. I finally felt that this year back for the first time mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Yeah. Where it's like, we are putting in this dedication. I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that we are a remote company. Our clients are remote. Like everything is just kind of hidden in, in the screens in front of us. But that, because we were able to go out into the world heavily this year at different events, I think you felt that tangible feeling of support. Yeah. And that kinda , that keeps you going, that makes you feel like you have people in your corner that, that wanna see you thrive and succeed and in return, that's ultimately what Flower Click is about, is helping others thrive and succeed. Yeah. So just that surprise of support, feeling the support fully . Yeah .
Speaker 3Yeah. That's pretty much what I have . I have the loyalty and that's kind of what it comes down to. They're so loyal to us. I've always known that Flores are like a different breed, right? They're such close bonds between flower family members. And I guess I feel that, and I just, I, it's so many times I'm overwhelmed with emotion when we get these messages from our members that say these such kind things. And I'm just, I mean, truly in tears. Mm-hmm . <affirmative> . Cause I'm thinking, wow, we really, we really did what we wanted to do, which is help someone, right? It's just like, yeah. Yeah . We talk about that a lot, Laurie , about, gosh, you know, just , we do . Did you see that? And we all do. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Yeah .
Speaker 1Cam , what about you? What was your , uh, biggest surprise?
Speaker 3Well,
Speaker 4I have to piggyback off of all of you because , and I, but I have an extra thing to add. Um, one that bond that we have, I have to tell you, I , um, I mentioned before we started this that my husband had a nightmare. It's very rare that he woke up and yelled. And so I was awake at four 30 in the morning and couldn't get back to sleep. And I spent my time trying to fall back asleep, praying for a member of ours who has cancer. Mm-hmm . And it weighs heavily on me. Um, I love her <laugh> . I really love her. I'm gonna get teary right now. And , um, even one that passed , um, a year or two ago , um, that I, that still, I think about her. And, and so that is a bond that totally surprised me that I, you know, praying for someone I've never even met in person. Um , but I, but I love her, you know ? So , um, just adding that and then to add to what Ellie said, I got to go to my first in-person floral conference and it was a game changer for me. I mean, as much as I don't really wanna travel with the girls being the age they are, it was so good for me. Good for my soul. I didn't tell you guys this , I think you told Lori , but , um, I stopped at a shop when I was, I was just about an hour, hour and a half from where I live. I stopped at a shop recently when I was passing through. I've passed through that town year for years and passed her shop, if I'm being honest. But I had a whole new confidence to stop in. Yeah . Because it's like, she's not gonna not like me when she meets me in person. Mm-hmm . <affirmative> , like, I think I had this new confidence Yeah . Mm-hmm . <affirmative> that I didn't have before, that I'm not just the girl behind the screen, you know? Right, right . And um, and I told , shared that with my friends and they were like, I can't believe you thought that. Like, I can't. And I'm like, I don't know . I think it was just, I was hiding for , you know, I could hide that .
Speaker 1It was just so many years of hiding behind the computer. Right ?
Speaker 4Yeah . And so I
Speaker 5Just like, that was the natural state. It wasn't necessarily that you were hiding. It was just like, this is what
Speaker 4Natural
Speaker 5Hot , the normal
Speaker 1<laugh>
Speaker 4Before you guys started talking, that was just me riff , you know, going off the cuff. But , um, my biggest aha moment has been , um, the number of shops that are selling and , um, and even retiring , um, that I've seen over the last year or two. And that is , um, it's been just surprising to me, I guess, is , um, I think the rollercoaster that, that the florist have been on for the last almost three full years has created some burnout. Has created mm-hmm . <affirmative> and I mean, it's real, I even read an article on it on the s a f , you know, magazine mm-hmm . <affirmative> . But, but way am I seeing it, you know, someone that I had no idea they even were thinking about selling emails me and says, Hey, by the way, I've sold my shop. And I'm just like, you know, and it , I'm happy for 'em, but I'm also sad and torn that I'm not gonna get to talk to 'em as often. And you know , and then usually they just are so in, even still committed to flower click that they tell the new person, you've gotta keep these people. Yes . You know , and they do. Which is great. Yeah . Um , nine times <inaudible> . So anyway, that's been a big surprise for me as wow, I don't, I've been in this industry for a lot of years and don't remember it being this much. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1<affirmative>. Yeah. There have been a lot. You're
Speaker 4Right, Kim .
Speaker 1Mm-hmm . <affirmative> . Okay . Last question , uh, that I have is, what is one thing that you hope to achieve in 2023? So, Ms . Ellie . Okay . It can be personal or professional. It doesn't have to have anything to do with flower.
Speaker 5Click . Yes. So when I did see that you said personal or professional, that led me to the thing that I do every year , uh, which is to pick a word for the next year, right ? Or to , for, for , so for 2023, my word , uh, is fortify. So fortify means to strengthen mentally or physically mm-hmm . <affirmative> or increase the value of, so speaking, I'm gonna just speak about it professionally here and in that way. And I know Lori , you and I have had many conversations about this. So we've been building, building, building the past three years. And for me, this, this upcoming year, 2023, the year that we are now in, it's about building upon what we've already built, making it better. So not creating necessarily a bunch of new stuff, but refining our craft, making things that we have already built and sometimes had to build really fast to get it out there in the world. To, to strengthen, to reinforce, to fortify those things, the systems, the products we have, the photo shoots, the courses , anything that we do to, just to fortify that. So that's my, that's my thing.
Speaker 1That's a great word. I don't have my word yet, so it's funny, but, or ironic. But Ellie won't be surprised because Ellie and I do this all the time in conversations. And later, the word that I have for 2023 is refined .
Speaker 5Wow. Wow . Laurie .
Speaker 1It just makes me laugh. I mean, like, I get chill <laugh> . Cause we always have weird things. So, and that's like removing impurities. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> , right ? Mm-hmm. <affirmative> making it better. Cleaning up what you already have. Yes. Um, and from a work standpoint, it makes total sense cuz that is our goal, but also from a personal standpoint, I won't steer away from like, I wanna have a new body, or I want new mental. I , I don't want, I, I need to be gr good and fulfilled with what I have, but I can refine it, right ? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I can remove maybe an extra snicker bar and replace it with maybe a prune, I don't know , <laugh> , you know what I mean? But I <laugh> , but I was like just refining what I already am because I'm great. Right. I'm good. I'm okay.
Speaker 5Why would you wanna throw everything away that you've already done?
Speaker 1Right . Exactly. So that's , um, so crazy. But yet not because that just means to me that we're on the right path for 2023. Right? A
Speaker 5Hundred percent . Our goals are aligned, our
Speaker 1Goals, at least every motivated are aligned .
Speaker 5We're motivated to make it happen. For sure. Exactly . I love that, Lori . Exactly. Doesn't surprise me, but still gives me goosebumps.
Speaker 1Right? That's what I'm saying. It shouldn't surprise you yet. It always does. So, Cammie , what about you?
Speaker 4I think I'm probably not alone. Whenever I come up with kind of, I come up with goals that are personal, work related , spiritual, you know? Right . I've got, I've got all these goals. Um, I would like to just share that for 2022. I read through the Bible in a year. I'm about to finish revelation. I've, I've completed one of my goals, and I don't always do that . I don't always do that, you guys, but if I had to pick a word, it would be balance. You guys didn't ask me for a word, but balance. Um, and, you know, it kind of ties back to what we started with, right. With with how much we care. I, I wanna continue to care because even though I do put things on my calendar, like I'm taking the kid to the orthodontist, you know, or I'm, I'm going to a basketball game, I still, it's still in my brain work. Yeah . You know what I mean? Mm-hmm . <affirmative> . And , um, and then I need, I need balance because my brain can become very anxious mm-hmm . <affirmative> . And , um, I need it , um, to maybe even to come up with a hobby that I like outside of Yeah . You know, my kids and my job. And , um, that's something I wanna do in 2023 just for my own balance and wellbeing. Um mm-hmm. <affirmative> work. Mm-hmm . <affirmative> work, children, and then some little Cammy time in there too. Yeah . You know,
Speaker 1I love the idea of a hobby. Um, and I've noticed that word a lot lately. I don't know if it's just jumping out at me for re because even my husband even mentioned it and I'm like, I, I really do. Moms have hobbies. Like I , I relinquished any hobby the first time I gave birth, and I've never like , brought me back and
Speaker 4My , my kids are my hobby and, and hi . And what's happening to you guys is they are becoming more , um, autonomous, you know? Right . They are becoming more to where they, people want them over at their house more and , and wanna take them here and there. And, and I'm like, well, now what do I do? You know? And so then I'll go work <laugh> and, you know, it's like Exactly . No, I need to find something.
Speaker 1I need to find something. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 4<affirmative>. So that's my word. Um, and I just came up with that, but it truly sums up all of my goals is balance.
Speaker 1Yeah . That's good. You love that . That was my word last year. I didn't succeed, but I think you can succeed
Speaker 4<laugh> . I think they can just by even finding a hobby, I think it will help a
Speaker 1Lot. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Yeah . I , yeah . If anyone
Speaker 4Give suggestions, like any listeners wanna give suggestions for hobbies, I'm open . Oh ,
Speaker 1That's a good idea. Oh , there you , I wanna try pickle ball is what I wanna do . Pickle . You wanna do
Speaker 3Pickleball ? Mm-hmm. <affirmative> .
Speaker 4That's all the rage.
Speaker 3It
Speaker 1Is . It is all the rage. It's everywhere. And I , anyway,
Speaker 3That's , my friend just told me yesterday Sharon was here and she had just come from playing pickleball. She goes, you need to play pickleball. And I'm like, yeah ,
Speaker 5You should go play with her .
Speaker 1I really think we would like it . I think you , I
Speaker 3Never both , I think
Speaker 1I haven't either. It doesn't matter. Ellie .
Speaker 5It's like p it's more like ping pong.
Speaker 1Yeah. Like ping pong. All right . Vonda , besides learning pickleball, what is something you hope to achieve in
Speaker 32023 ? I'm not sure. The pickleball one, I'm not putting that on my list.
Speaker 1Okay. All
Speaker 3Right . I have, you're not gonna believe this, Lori , TikTok , <laugh> , I'm gonna learn this year. That's, that's my goal. TikTok . And actually, I've been reading, no, I've been watching videos on how to successfully post things on Instagram. See, I'm way behind. But Instagram and , and because Ellie keeps
Speaker 5Doing Yes . One time she posted something for the course to her close friends, only
Speaker 3<laugh>. Yeah . See ? So , oh , I can't get it figured out. So I'm trying <laugh> ,
Speaker 4Oh , if anyone can figure it out, you can bond. She amazing . Figure
Speaker 3It out . Ellie will be here for another couple weeks when she gets back, and then she can help me too. Then I can like, then she can give
Speaker 1You a good tutorial. Yes . That's good. That's good. And then I can start sending you turtle tos. I'm so
Speaker 3Excited. And the other thing, personally, I have a couple trips that I wanna take this year, so we'll see.
Speaker 1Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I'm proud of you.
Speaker 3So that's
Speaker 1Great.
Speaker 3Very exciting . Always looking for inspiration. And some of those trips are very inspirational, so we'll do it. Oh yeah.
Speaker 4This has been really good for me. You guys just, I was kind of in not a great head space coming into this podcast. Mm-hmm . <affirmative> . And I just feel like I feel revived, just mm-hmm. <affirmative> just being here today and listening to you
Speaker 5Guys, there is something about 2023 that's kind of, I think everybody collectively as the world maybe, or maybe just the states, I don't know , world. Just kind of like, it's not a fake inspired for 2023. It , it doesn't feel like a fake thing. Like in some of the years, like this fake inspiration and motivation because we've had to battle the last few years. And so it's like, yeah , we're just gonna battle more and, and we know we can do it.
Speaker 1Thank you so much for listening to our podcast. We hope you enjoyed spending time with us because we enjoy spending time with you. If you did, make sure you hit that subscribe button or add the business and pleasure of flowers to your Google Morning routine or your flash briefing on Alexa. We look forward to seeing you next week,
Speaker 3So please come back and join us and discover how a bit of knowledge and one small change in your mindset can take you to new levels in your life and business .