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Thanksgiving Reflections: A Family Gathering
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Episode 204: Join us for a heartwarming Thanksgiving episode as we gather together a few special family members of Vonda and Lori to share their heartfelt thoughts on this special holiday.
In this episode, we hear from Vonda's granddaughters, Leighton and Campbell Martin, whose youthful energy and enthusiasm add a refreshing perspective to the discussion.
We also have the privilege of listening to the wise reflections of Lori's son, Davis Wilson. With his thoughtful insights, Davis reminds us to take a moment to pause and appreciate the blessings and meaningful moments that Thanksgiving offers.
And finally, we hear from Esther Wilson, Lori's mother-in-law, who brings a wealth of experience and wisdom to the conversation. Her perspective is a testament to the enduring importance of family and gratitude.
Join us as we gather around the virtual table to listen to the voices of different generations, and be inspired by their unique perspectives on Thanksgiving.
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Everybody has a favorite for Thanksgiving, that's for sure.
SPEAKER_02So another tradition I would actually say would be the food.
SPEAKER_04Welcome to the Business and Pleasure of Flowers. We're your hosts, Vonda LaFever.
SPEAKER_05And Lori Wilson. And we believe that business and fun are a perfect combination. Kind of like us, Vonda.
SPEAKER_04Lori, do you still have a house full?
SPEAKER_05They ever well, half a house full. The majority have left. Everybody was in for the big football game. Alma mater was in town, and my children's alma mater. They all left, but my son is still here, so that's good. And my daughter had to leave. She doesn't get to be here for Thanksgiving Day. But what you're getting ready to get a house full.
SPEAKER_04I'm getting ready to get a house full. Yes. We're getting ready to have not super full, you know, another six people and two more dogs. So it should be fun. That's fun.
SPEAKER_05More dogs. Always more dogs is always fun. So exactly.
SPEAKER_04Speaking of fun, we have a fun pod today. We do. I actually looked back and we've never really done a pod that was gathered around Thanksgiving. And this is kind of the perfect year to do it.
SPEAKER_05It is. And I think we are leaning more towards the pleasure side of the business and pleasure of flowers in this. Really, there's no business. There's no business. There's no flowers in this one. There are not. Well, kind of. Yes, you didn't want to mention that. Yep.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Yeah. There was a mention of flowers for sure.
SPEAKER_05Garden and flowers in it. So what did we do? What did we do in this one? Let's set the stage.
SPEAKER_04Well, we called in family members to do this one, which is fun. We did.
SPEAKER_07We did.
SPEAKER_04And we introduced each one of them at the opening. So I just think, you know, sit back and relax and then enjoy the next 30 minutes.
SPEAKER_05We'd polled some family members, right? Different generations and asked them what they were thankful for this year. And this is what they said.
SPEAKER_04Hey clickers, we're here with two of my most favorite people right here in Iowa. And I would like to introduce you to Leighton Martin. Hi, Layton. Hi. And I have Campbartin here as well. Hi, Campbell. Hi. I'm so glad to be here. And this is all about being thankful. And I've been very thankful to be able to spend some time with you this weekend. So thank you for being kind to me and had a little bit of fun, didn't we? Yeah. All right. Well, with Thanksgiving coming up, I think it's important for us to all reflect on things that we're thankful for. And I know you girls are very thankful and appreciative, young ladies. And so I wanted to ask you. Let's start with the first question. What are three things that you're most thankful for?
SPEAKER_07My family, friends, and my dog. Oh.
SPEAKER_04So your family. Mean like all of your family, or just your mom and dad, and your family here. All of it. All of it. Okay. Anybody specifically? Or just everyone. Everyone. Everyone in the family. Oh, all right. And the next one was Friends. Friends. Yeah. You have a lot of friends, don't you?
SPEAKER_07Yep.
SPEAKER_04And do you have a lot of close friends, or do you have like lots of friends? Close friends. Close friends that you'd like to hang out with. And your third one was what? Dog. And tell us about your dog a little bit.
SPEAKER_07His name is Conrad. And he's a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel. And he his nickname's Connie. I don't think we should put that for we should.
SPEAKER_04And he's four. And he's okay. Alright. Well, that's good. How about you, Campbell? What are you thankful for? I mean, I would probably say the same thing. Like, did she steal your idea? Yes. Oh yeah. Because that's what I was gonna say. Okay, so tell me about your family. Everybody in your family or everybody. Okay. Don't have any favorites? Nope. Your sister's not a favorite or anything.
SPEAKER_02No.
SPEAKER_04Okay. Well, now you know Leighton. I knew that anyway. How about friends? Do you have a lot of friends or I have a lot of friends. And and some close ones too.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. We have like a main friend group, kinda. So how many are in your main friend group then?
SPEAKER_04Four. There's four main friends and then it expands to a lot of us. Okay, gotcha. Four. And then you two with the pup. Oh yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. What do you else do you want to tell us about Conrad?
SPEAKER_02Well, his birthday was like a couple days ago, and he just turned four. So.
SPEAKER_04Mm-hmm. What does he like to do the most?
SPEAKER_02Probably like sleep. No, he likes to run around a lot too. But he also likes to sleep, so. Like the zooming he was doing last night, perhaps. Yep. Yep.
SPEAKER_07That's a lot of things. He's doing his laps.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, he's gonna get the daily laps in. That's why you like him because he has a lot of energy like you. Yeah, but he's sleeping right now. So that's good. That's probably best right now. Yeah. Okay, so what about Thanksgiving? We're gonna talk Thanksgiving a minute. What do you usually do for Thanksgiving day or the the days around Thanksgiving? Anything special?
SPEAKER_02Well do you wanna okay? So a lot of the times we go to our grandma's house, but last year we went to our aunt and uncle's house, and I think we're going there this year again. It's that's kind of like a tradition.
SPEAKER_04So you do it every year, and you go to this is your mom's side of the family or your dad's side? Mom's side.
SPEAKER_02And then we also go to our other grandma and grandpa's house, um, which is on my dad's side of the family. So we go to like a lot of houses for Thanksgiving. Do you do it all on one day or is it one day? Yeah, it's mostly all in one day.
SPEAKER_07In the morning, um, at like eight, we go to mom's side of the family, and then like five hours later, we drive like an hour away to Nevada, and then we go to our dad's side of the family when our cousins are there.
SPEAKER_04So do you do certain things with your mom's side of the family in the morning? What what is that? Is do you have a big meal?
SPEAKER_02Do you play with cousins? Do you have a game should be like we we play with our cousins. Sometimes we play games together like soccer? Yeah, sometimes we play games with our cousins. They have a park by their house and we go there and then we like do like basketball or something. So yeah.
SPEAKER_04Unless it's snowing, of course, because you're in Iowa, you might get some snow.
SPEAKER_02No, we go there even if it's snowing. Do you? Yeah. Okay.
SPEAKER_04All right.
SPEAKER_02Also, when we cut open the turkey, when we're close to being done with it, we break the wishbone inside of it.
SPEAKER_04So you have to eat all the meat off the bone and then you let it sit there until after you're done eating. And then who gets to pick who does the wishbone? Probably the adult. Yeah, I don't really know who does it, but I think I did it last year actually. And do you know what it means to have the wishbone? And nope. Okay, so when when you break the wishbone, there's one part in the middle that's thicker, and the person with the thicker part of the bottom.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I know how it works, but I don't know what it means.
SPEAKER_04It means you get your wish. You wish out of that bone. Oh yeah. So next maybe this year you want to do the wishbone so you can get a wish. Yeah. What do you think? Maybe. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I'm gonna try.
SPEAKER_04So Layton, tell me about when you move over to your grandpa's house on your dad's side, then. What do you do there?
SPEAKER_07Well, in his garage, he has like a lot of like scooters and like wheelie things, and we go around on those, and then he has these bikes and a big hill next to his house. So we go on the hills and we bike around the neighborhood. Oh, okay. That's fun.
SPEAKER_04And you have a lot of cousins there too. Yep. So that's why Thanksgiving is so important because one of the things that you really like is family. That's one of the things you're thankful for.
SPEAKER_02That's kind of the main tradition, is just like every year we just like spend time with family. With our whole family, basically. Because we get to spend time with our dad and mom's side. So I think the main tradition is just like spending time with family.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_04What is your favorite part of Thanksgiving? Obviously, family, but there's gotta be something else with Thanksgiving.
SPEAKER_02I like the food because we make like a bunch of stuff and it's all really good. So Okay, what's your favorite food? How to Thanksgiving? Pick one. Mine is probably the turkey. Normally my mom makes it and she makes it really good. So last year I think someone else made it and it was kind of dry. So yeah, and a dry turkey is not good. I think I think my mom has a special ability. I'm sure she does.
SPEAKER_04Okay. Like what is your favorite food?
SPEAKER_07My favorite food for Thanksgiving is my grandma's uh fruit dip. Fruit dip.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. So what do you dip in that?
SPEAKER_07Strawberries we normally have out, and then like something.
SPEAKER_02It's basically like fruit, like grapes, strawberries. That's what I mostly dip in it. And then sometimes blueberries. Yeah, it's really good. And it's made with marshmallow cream. And I don't really know what else is in it, but I know that's the special ingredient.
SPEAKER_07She also makes something called pink salad, which is like jello and then it has fruit chunks in it.
SPEAKER_04Mmm. Really good. My favorite is uh cornbread corn. Have you ever had that? Nope. We'll have to try it sometime.
SPEAKER_03We will. Everybody has a favorite for Thanksgiving, that's for sure.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah. So another tradition I would actually say would be the food. Because we make a bunch of different stuff and it's like homemade, mostly by my grandma though, because she makes the pink salad and the green bean casserole. Yeah, that one's good too.
SPEAKER_04That is true, Campbell. That so much of Thanksgiving, there's traditional foods that everybody like has a favorite, and you want to make sure that's there for Thanksgiving.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, because normal food would be like the mashed potatoes and like the stuffing. Is that what it is?
SPEAKER_07And the cranberry slice.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and then the turkey, but like we make special things that others like probably wouldn't.
SPEAKER_04So another thing, because I think you girls are always thankful, and and I remember coming here many years ago, and you would always do something called the peak in the pit. Remember? Tell me a little bit about that. What is the peak? Is this related to Thanksgiving? A peak would be something you're thankful for. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So we don't really do it as much anymore, but basically what it is is like the peak is like what was your favorite part of like the day. Because my dad normally asks that at dinner. And so the peak would be like what was your like highlight of the day, basically, because a peak it would be like on a mountain or something, like that the top is the peak, and that's like the good. And then the pit is like what did you not like today?
SPEAKER_07And like what things you could do better.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, like what you didn't what you didn't enjoy, basically. Because like it's a pit, you know, and that's like deep in the ground or something. Isn't that what it is?
SPEAKER_07So the part in avocado that you don't like, yeah, throw away. Yeah, that could be that too.
SPEAKER_02So that's why it's bad. Because my dad works like most of the day, and we're at school most of the day too. So he just asked it to like better understand what we did in that day. So yeah.
SPEAKER_04What's an example of something that would be a pit that you would have during a day?
SPEAKER_02Like at school, if you were playing at recess and you like fell off like a swing or something, and you maybe like had to get an ice pack or it would just hurt, you know? Yeah, that would be like if you got an injury and you that wouldn't be something that you would be happy about. So that would probably be an example of a pit. How about you, Layton? What would be a pit?
SPEAKER_07If you cheated off of someone's test. Oh god. And then you got caught and got a detention.
SPEAKER_04That would be a terrible pit. I've never heard you say that one before. I know. That wouldn't be you, would it? Nope.
SPEAKER_02What would be a peak for you? A peak for me would probably if you got like a test back and you got 100% on it, and then you got an A in that class. Because that when I get test back and I get a good score, that always makes me happy. So that would probably be a peak.
SPEAKER_04That would definitely be a peak. So let me go back to Thanksgiving a minute because actually peaks and pits are somewhat about being full for things. And pits are like, ugh, I don't want that to happen again, right? Can you think of a time that you have helped someone that have made them thankful for you?
SPEAKER_07When my friend was walking through the hallway, their the hallway is always really crowded in our school, and she got tossed against the wall, and her all her stuff dropped on the ground. So I helped her pick it up.
SPEAKER_04See, those kind of things mean a lot, you know? Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_02Campbell, how about you? So actually, this has happened a couple of times of times. Some of my friends have gotten like hurt in the past and like maybe started crying or something, and I just helped them up. And like one time out of like a dowling game, my friend spilled ice cream on her new shoes and she was like really scared because she thought that her mom would get mad at her for it. So then I went in the bathroom with her and I helped her like scrub it off of her shoes. And I made her feel better.
SPEAKER_04And you did. I mean, I think that's what sometimes we look at when we're talking about being thankful for things. Sometimes people are thankful for the way you treat them and little things that you do, and I think that's what makes all the difference is little things that we do to help one another. Yeah. Yeah. Any other thing you wanted to add today? So why don't we finish up with just a Thanksgiving joke? Because you know, that just a little humor is always good.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I have a good one. Okay, this is mine. Why did the turkey bring a microphone?
SPEAKER_04Oh, I don't know, but that's a really good one since we're sitting in front of a microphone. Why did the turkey bring a microphone? Because he was ready to roast. Ooh, that's a good one.
SPEAKER_07That's good.
SPEAKER_04I know. Okay, Leighton, what about you? You have something to bring? Which side of a turkey has more feathers? Oh, I don't know. Which side of the turkey has more feathers? The outside. Thank goodness. I wouldn't want him on the inside, right? That's a knee slapper.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that would make it dry just like last year.
SPEAKER_04All right. Thanks, girls. It was great having you here. Happy Thanksgiving. Howdy! Thanksgiving!
SPEAKER_05Davis Wilson, my oldest firstborn. Thank you for being here.
SPEAKER_01It's a pleasure to be here with you in your office.
SPEAKER_05Yes, this is your second time on the pod with me, right? Yes. And you just flew in from Cleveland, Ohio.
SPEAKER_01Yes, very early this morning.
SPEAKER_05You did. Anyway, I wanted to have you on, Vonda and I wanted to have you on because we are doing interviews with different generations talking about thankfulness for Thanksgiving. Love Thanksgiving. I know you do. So I've got a couple questions for you. Number one. What are some things? Let's say three things that you are thankful for this year.
SPEAKER_01I am thankful for a lot of things. Um, I like to keep a good perspective. I think it's good to make lists of things that you're thankful for. One of which I'm thankful for is my job. I'm a pastor at a church in Cleveland, and it's something I would do if I wasn't paid, but I get to get paid for it. So every day I wake up excited and just thankful I get to do what I do. And even without it, just thankful that I have a job that can provide for me for food and clothes and all the things I need. Well, because a lot of people are struggling and don't have that. So just thankful to be able to, if it was any job, just thankful to be able to be able to provide for myself and be comfortable. I'm thankful for my family that I have two parents and I have two siblings and I have a couple grandparents left, and a lot of people don't have that. So it's just a huge blessing of like, of course, my mom's close to perfect, but not quite perfect, but no family is perfect.
SPEAKER_05But pretty, pretty dang close. Pretty dang close, yes.
SPEAKER_01But if you have parents, I think you should be thankful.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And I'm relatively healthy. I'm very thankful for my health of where I got some bad knees, can't really run a lot, but I can walk around and be active and I can still go hiking and um play volleyball and things I love to do. So those would be three things that I'm thankful for.
SPEAKER_05Those are pretty great, pretty great things. I would absolutely agree. Alright, so let's talk about Thanksgiving traditions.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_05And I'm gonna kind of interchange that word also with memories.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_05Because lately, you know, our family has we all live all over the place now that you kids are grown. So when you think about traditions that we've had in during Thanksgiving, it's kind of back in the memory because there's been a lot of Thanksgivings we haven't had together recently. So what comes to your mind?
SPEAKER_01When I think back of favorite Thanksgiving memories, it would be um at your side of the families on Thanksgiving um and with our cousins and just playing football in the backyard all day. Yeah. We would my cousin Brock and I would try to convince my sister and and his sister Mary to try and play with us. We'd always just want to play football in the backyard. And now that we're older, don't really play football in the backyard and tackle anymore. Yeah. So we watch it instead. Right. But just anything revolving around football, just beating each other up all day when we were kids was always a lot of fun.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah. No, that's that you guys spend a lot of time in the backyard, and then you remember when Papa would get out there with you.
SPEAKER_01Yes. My I remember one Thanksgiving, my 70-some-year-old grandfather beat us in a race when we were probably 12 and he was running backwards. Yes. He was a college trek.
SPEAKER_05Yes, and he never let you guys live it down. No. And we have pictures, we have the video to prove it. He would have to get out there and race.
SPEAKER_01It's kind of annoying. I could beat him now.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. Last Thanksgiving, he was here. He's 88 years old, and we had him doing push-ups. Yeah. So I don't know if you can. Let's knock his cane over. Yeah, that's true. That's true. You can do that. So, all right. Last question. What is your favorite Thanksgiving food?
SPEAKER_01My favorite thing on like the dinner plate would be gravy. Everything is a vessel for me to be able to get gravy into my system. So put it on the turkey, the mashed potatoes, the stuffing, all of it. I want just gravy on all of it. And for dessert, I love pecan pie.
SPEAKER_06Yes, you do.
SPEAKER_01Pumpkin pie is the bottom of the barrel for me.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_01But pecan is is really up there.
SPEAKER_05And you know, that's always an issue in our family because your siblings are pumpkin pie people. And you are you are pecan pie. Their opinions are wrong, and this is always a problem on Thanksgiving because you guys go round and round.
SPEAKER_01Shouldn't be a problem. You just have pecan pie.
SPEAKER_05Well, we do. So we have both, and usually there's no there's no issue, but I do love the gravy. I have one question for you. Do you call it stuffing or dressing?
SPEAKER_01If it's in the turkey, it's stuffing. And if it's in a pan, it's dressing.
SPEAKER_05Okay. Well, your grandmother's both grandmas is always dressing. Never in my childhood was it ever called stuffing until we moved to the street. Well, no, because in my childhood, I was told if you cook it in a turkey, you'll die of poisoning. Well, I don't know where that came from.
SPEAKER_01I think that was just your mom not wanting to do it, but she made up a rule that you will die if you do this.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, she was good at that. She would make things up to tell us when she just didn't want to do it. So anyway.
SPEAKER_01She told me I was a kid, I was flipping the light switch up and down a lot. Yeah. She said I'll get worms if I keep doing this. And I believed her. Yes.
SPEAKER_05Well, and just like picking up if you put money coins in your mouth. Do you remember that? She would say manure. Yes, don't put that in your mouth. It's been in cow manure. Everything's been in cow everyone's thing's been in cow manure, but we loved her and we believed her until you get to a certain age. So thanks for being on the pod.
SPEAKER_01Happy to do it. Go flowers.
SPEAKER_05Yay, flowers. Love flowers. We do love flowers. I am here because I have the pleasure of interviewing my mother-in-law, Esther Lee Wilson. Hi, Esther. How are you doing?
SPEAKER_06Hi, Lori.
SPEAKER_05You're so excited to be here. You've been begging me to be on this podcast because you love to talk.
SPEAKER_06Yes.
SPEAKER_05Yes.
SPEAKER_06You're my daughter-in-love.
SPEAKER_05Yes, my daughter. I'm your daughter-in-love. I love that. So Vonda and I are doing a Thanksgiving podcast, and we are interviewing different generations on thankfulness. And I get to interview your generation, which is the something generation. What is your generation called?
SPEAKER_06I don't even know. It's it's old.
SPEAKER_05It's old. A long time ago. It's up there. You were born in the 30s, right? 1932. Yeah, yeah. I don't even know what that generation is. I know because I've known you for 33 years that you do have a very grateful heart. And so, what better person to interview than you on this Thanksgiving season? So I've got a few questions for you. Number one, what are two or three things this year that you are most thankful for?
SPEAKER_06I'm very grateful that that I have God in my life and that he has a plan for me. Yes. And I'm very thankful for that knowledge and feeling that I have.
SPEAKER_05Yes.
SPEAKER_06That's wonderful. Okay, what else? I'm also thankful for my family. I am a wonderful family. I have two great sons, two great daughter-in-laws, five grandchildren, two grandchildren spouses. Yes, six great-grandchildren. Yes. Five of those are great-grandsons, and one is a great-granddaughter. Yes. And I am very grateful for each of them. And dogs. Great grandmother. Come on. Yes.
SPEAKER_05Bo do have we talk about Bo a lot on this podcast. Okay. So we we have to throw out we have to throw a bone to Bo.
SPEAKER_06Yes.
SPEAKER_05We're grateful for Bo.
SPEAKER_06He is he is a very special.
unknownYes.
SPEAKER_06Yes, he has very special needs.
SPEAKER_05That is a nice way to put it. He has a very special dog. Yes.
SPEAKER_06Okay. And what's your what's your third? And my third one is for my yard. Yes.
SPEAKER_05Tell us about your yard. I've talked about you and your yard. You know, some people prefer to go to therapy, which there's nothing wrong with that, right? I highly recommend going to see a therapist, but your yard is really your therapy. It's your physical and mental therapy, wouldn't you say?
SPEAKER_06Well, it it's rather large for a city lot. Yes. And um, I have a lot of plants. And it's very rewarding to watch them grow and to bloom and uh to take care of them. Even when they get sick, yeah, I try to bring them back. Yes, yeah. And that's my therapy.
SPEAKER_05Yep, it is.
SPEAKER_06Can you share real quick about a plant that you have that was your mother's? Yes, I have a plant that my mother, who died in 1966, brought from her home in Arkansas. And I still have a start of it. I've shared it with a lot of people because it it blooms a lot. It looks a little like a petunia, but it's a house plant. And it dies down in the fall, and then we bring it out in the spring, and it continues to grow, and I share it with others.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I love that. I love that you have an appreciation for plants and flowers and all of the things, you know. That's definitely near and dear to my heart because that's my industry, right? Right. All right, here's another one. Do you have any favorite Thanksgiving traditions?
SPEAKER_06Well, mine is very basic. I love the gathering together of as many of the family as possible and friends, and having a big dinner that takes days to prepare and you eat in an hour, and you're but then we visit all afternoon, and then we have a dessert. We're many desserts. Yeah. You have your choice. But it's a day of eating and visiting, and uh um I always think of the song we gather together to ask the Lord's blessing.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, and that's definitely what our family does, right? Especially when our kids were younger and we all did could control them, you know, and we would all come to Tulsa and all get together. And I think the other tradition in this family is even the day after having to go back out to Nancy's for the leftovers, yes, which sometimes tasted even better, right? You know, second day, second day, second day is even better, and she would insist everyone come out and help get rid of this food, right? Because there was always way too much. So, so speaking of food, here's your last question. What is your favorite food?
SPEAKER_06Well, probably I'm best known for my cornbread dressing. Oh, you are uh it's very basic cornbread dressing, yeah.
SPEAKER_05It's so good, turkey gravy on it, it's very good, it's so good, and it is always requested of you since I've ever been in this family. That is your go what you have to bring every year, the cornbread dressing. And one year, or maybe more than one year, didn't you try to like do something different and everybody got mad? Did you do a one of each, like a non-cornbread? And somebody else brought dressing, and we revolted against it, like we shunned them very quickly, and so we didn't like change. No one likes change in this family. We we ran married, so so that's the family favorite. Is that your favorite? I like the broccoli cheese casserole. Oh, that's good too. That's really good. I always like to think that's healthy because it has the word broccoli in it, but I don't know. It also has cheese whiz, I think. I'm not sure. Cheese whiz, huh? And rice. And rice, broccoli, rice, and just in small print cheese whiz. But it's good. Well, thank you for doing this. It wasn't as scary as you thought it would be, right? So I'm thankful for you. Thank you. I'm thankful for you. So happy Thanksgiving. Happy. Thank you so much for listening to our podcast. We hope you enjoyed spending time with us because we enjoy spending time with you. If you did, make sure you hit that subscribe button or add the business and pleasure of flowers to your Google morning routine or your flash briefing on Alexa. We look forward to seeing you next week.
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