Maximizing Productivity by Understanding Your Personal Productivity Curve

Episode 235: In this episode, Vonda and Lori share their personal experiences and challenges with energy and brain power at the end of the day. They discuss what a personal productivity curve is and why it's important to understand it in order to maximize your productivity during your most productive time of day.

They provide valuable tips and strategies to help you identify your most productive time of day and ways to optimize your productivity during that time. They also share an eye-opening fact on email management that can improve your productivity and efficiency.

Join Vonda and Lori in this informative and practical episode to learn how to unlock your full productivity potential.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:02

We have a deadline. What do we do? Like, that's a little bit of stress, and it's a motivation to get it done, and we can do things pretty darn fast at that point. Welcome to the business and pleasure of flowers. We're your hosts, Vonda LaFever.

SPEAKER_01 0:19

And Lori Wilson. And we believe that business and fun are a perfect combination. Kind of like us, Vonda. How was the trip back, Lori? It was good. It was good. It was uneventful. We went to our Texas, was it called Texas State Forum? Yes. Texas State Forum in San Antonio. San Antonio. And we had a great time. And I stayed an extra day in San Antonio to visit my BFF, my childhood BFF, and drove back this morning, and it was very uneventful, which was nice. No traffic. And I got in with no problem. And I stopped and got myself McDonald's.

SPEAKER_00 1:11

You had a McDonald's.

SPEAKER_01 1:13

I did. I was raving it. I was craving it. And fries? What were you craving? French fries. I was craving French fries. Here's the thing, Ronda. For the past couple of weeks, maybe the last three weeks, I have been trying to convince someone in my household, anyone in my household, to go to McDonald's with me, and nobody will go.

SPEAKER_00 1:34

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 1:35

And it is never really fun to go by yourself because you feel judged as one does. And then I get the I don't want anything, but I will take you, which makes you feel more shame because the person taking you is going to look at you like, are you really going to eat that? And I don't need that judgment in my life, to be honest. No, no. So on my way home, I thought, you know what? It's my birthday week. I'm getting myself McDonald's because I can. Because you can. So I got French fries. I got a plain cheeseburger, which, you know, just some little cheeseburger. And I got a diet Dr. Pepper. You just treated yourself. I treated myself and I brought it home. And I shared my cheeseburger with my dog. And he ate it with me, so I felt like someone was with me.

SPEAKER_00 2:31

Oh, thank you, Bo.

SPEAKER_01 2:32

I was thrilled. He and there was no judgment coming from him. So I was happy. So I'm like, well, this is my birthday lunch.

SPEAKER_00 2:42

Well, I bet you'll have a better birthday lunch tomorrow.

SPEAKER_01 2:45

But it was delicious. Now I could probably only do that maybe once every six months.

SPEAKER_00 2:51

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 2:52

Because I'll probably have a stomachache in a couple hours.

unknown 2:55

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 2:56

But those McDonald's French fries made so good. And they were so hot. This is the other thing I want to talk about because this has to do with sales and customer service.

SPEAKER_00 3:07

Oh, it does. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 3:08

Yes. When I I went through the drive-through, the guy on the other side of the speaker was so delightful. It was so funny. I was trying to order, and apparently, they don't have a cheeseburger value meal. They only have a cheeseburger value meal with two cheeseburgers. I don't need two cheeseburgers. I just need one. So he was figuring out how he can do this for me. And he has a very Texas accent. And he was calling me sweetheart. He was just doing all the things. And he was like, okay, I think of it. And I said, I think you could do that. I think it's like $6.99. And he's and he figured it all out. And he's like, Oh, nope, I'm going to save you a little money. It's actually $692. And I was like, well, oh my gosh. And so I pull up to pay. And he opened a window and he was this sweet little redheaded guy with a little beard. And he goes, Aren't you excited about all that money? And I go, Yeah, I don't know what I'm going to do with it. And he goes, Well, honey, you need to invest it.

SPEAKER_00 4:25

Oh boy, he had it all for you.

SPEAKER_01 4:27

Oh good. And I decided, you know what? I am going to send an email to McDonald's. Because rarely do you go through a McDonald's drive-thru and get someone with such a personality. Yes, that's true. But I thought, this guy literally made my day. And he likes his job. He loves his job. And he was a hoot. And I thought he made me smile. He made me laugh. And this is what we were kind of talking about. Yeah. We were doing our presentation. Yes. You know, about that relationship. I mean, two seconds. He was just so friendly. And immediately I was like, oh my gosh, this guy's funny. I like him. I want to come back here and get more French fries.

SPEAKER_00 5:15

And you were not judged.

SPEAKER_01 5:17

No. He told me I should invest my extra eight cents.

SPEAKER_00 5:21

I love that. Well, you know what? It was really customer service day then today. Let me share my story. Okay. So we need some merch for our AIFD booth. Yes. Yes. We are out.

SPEAKER_01 5:35

We've given it all away.

SPEAKER_00 5:37

And one of the faves that are the faves that the attendants have are our lip gloss because it's round and it's cute and it really is hydrating. So I'm out of mine. Oh, you're out. Look at you, Lori. I know. I'm out of it. I'm screwed. Well, we we have another 300. So I think you're going to be okay. Okay. I'm like, oh my gosh, we need to get this. We need to get fast. So this is some guy, his name is Paul. Shout out to Paul. Okay. And I sent him an email. This is Paul from Quality Logo Products. I'm going to give him a shout-out. Quality logo products. And he, I said, I need this and I need it fast. And he's like, okay. He said, same artwork. And I said, no, unfortunately, we want a something different on the top this time. And he goes, okay, send me the artwork. This was on the 19th. Okay. Okay. He sent me within probably an hour. I uploaded what I needed, sent it to him. I received that today. The order, like the physical order. They came in my today. This is the 24th. Talk about knowing what you need, when you need it, and make sure it pushes through to get on time. Wow. Wow. Right? Yeah. That's customer service. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:01

And then you're like, what else can we buy from him? Exactly. Yeah. Just like you want to go back to my maybe I need to go back ice cream.

SPEAKER_00 7:09

Right.

SPEAKER_01 7:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:11

Anyway, customer service.

SPEAKER_01 7:12

It is. It's just that little going above and beyond, just that extra little, hey, I'm going to really work hard to make this the best thing ever. I'm going to do my best.

SPEAKER_00 7:23

And we always try to do our best. And we were a little bit well concerned. We were concerned, a little worried, okay. When our presentation at Texas State Forum was at four o'clock in the afternoon. Yeah. Because clickers, you know, Lori and I are morning people. We talk about it how we have to record the pod in the morning because otherwise we're not quite as focused and we don't have as much energy.

SPEAKER_01 7:49

Well, our brain calories are burned up, we talk about by like three o'clock usually, because we usually power through so many meetings starting around 8:30 in the morning. And we do that on purpose because that's when we are high functioning. And then around 3, 3:30, we don't do a lot of focus work or high energy work because we aren't thinking straight as much. And then when we got the schedule and realized we were presenting a two-hour show from 4 to 6 p.m., I thought, oh crap. We were like, oh, not only are we gonna be tired, but we knew the audience that's their downtime too. You know, I didn't even know if anybody would show up at that time either, thinking there that's their nap time.

SPEAKER_00 8:45

But anyway, it it worked out. It worked out great. And I loved that Lori started it off letting everyone know that four o'clock's not usually our time. We're usually much better in the morning. And so don't judge us. It kind of warmed everybody up and it really worked out great. Yeah, yeah. It was a fun crowd, and they were so hospitable in Texas. So it was it was nice, and we all made it home safe and sound. But it made me think, okay, Lori, there's gotta be something to this. How we have energy in the morning, but not in the afternoon, right? You know, so it's something like that. So so as you were driving home today, I had to do the research, which is so unusual. You are my research.

SPEAKER_01 9:30

Finding the articles, right? I kind of like it.

SPEAKER_00 9:33

So I found a few that really are talking about the best hours for productivity and why that makes a difference. What is it that makes those energy curves, I guess, is what it is. And so that's what we're gonna kind of go over today. All right. Teach me. This is an article that was published in 2023, so fairly recently, the one I'm looking at right now, and it's Nasha Baker, and she talks about how when it comes to productivity, everyone's unique. So interesting because you and I seem to be the same, but we're unique, okay? Right. The internal clocks are based on your circadian rhythms, right? And that determines your energy levels for the day. So that makes sense, okay? And some see a peak between eight and noon, which would be us. Others are six to nine, and that's when you feel like you're most awake and focused. Those would be the night owls. I mean, we used to call them the early birds or the night owls, right? Right. So I mean, we look at that and then you go, well, what can I do to optimize that for my daily schedule of energy, motivation, focus? And so it kind of goes into that.

SPEAKER_01 10:49

Yeah, I would be concerned. I would honestly, I would hate to be a night owl in the business world because you're not at work usually between six and nine.

SPEAKER_02 11:04

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 11:04

That's right. You know, I mean, I guess unless you worked remotely and you can make your own hours.

SPEAKER_00 11:11

That's what I was just gonna say. I wonder if the people who are night owls have had an opportunity since the pandemic to, you know, shift and be able to go, oh, wait, I can do virtual work and I can do it when I can utilize the best energy level, which is at evening for me.

SPEAKER_01 11:31

Yeah, yeah, that's true. That's true. So, what were some of the pieces of advice they give you to be able to implement tasks?

SPEAKER_00 11:44

Well, first off, might make sure you know what your curve is, right? And I think most people who are our age, yeah, know that because you know what your body feels when your body body feels best. And you know, I think a perfect example of that is Ellie. She is more of the night owl, she uh gets so much done later in the day where you and I are like, oh man, we're pushing it.

SPEAKER_01 12:10

Yeah, she'll be firing out like stuff on our Slack where we have just the channel, the three of us, she'll be sending stuff out, and you know, it's 8:30 our time, and I have one eye open, you know, the other scrolling TikTok, and the other one's looking at Slack, and I'm like, I can't even process what she's asking. It's not even making sense to me. So we look at it in the morning and then morning around 6:30, and I'm like, oh, and I'll answer.

SPEAKER_00 12:37

Yeah, yeah, it's that productivity curve. And so knowing those natural signs is really will make a difference on how you can be productive. It says instead of fight against the personal productivity curve, which is usually like I had to do right now with more coffee, yeah to give us enough energy to go on, really know how it is. If it's unchecked for too long, it leads to be feeling overworked, overwhelmed, yeah, and burnout. And we all know that's what happens.

SPEAKER_01 13:12

That's true. Well, and you know, if you think about it, going back to when I picked you up at the airport on all drive, you had mentioned you had not had any coffee on Friday, and I had had a half a cup because I didn't drink much that morning either. Because I typically don't drink a lot in the morning because it upsets my stomach. Remember, I've told you that. And then around lunch, after I get something in my stomach, I might have an iced coffee, but we didn't have any more today. We didn't have any caffeine, and I think, but then we went in the design room and it was cold, right, and there were no windows. I asked that lady what time it was because I thought it was about 9 30, and she's like, It's 5 45. And I was like, You mean 9 45? And she's like, No, it's 5 45. You've got to be kidding me.

SPEAKER_00 14:08

We felt like we'd been there for five hours.

SPEAKER_01 14:13

But my productivity was just kind of all over the place. But that next morning, you popped up, you got in there and you got some focus time.

SPEAKER_00 14:24

Right.

unknown 14:25

Right.

SPEAKER_01 14:25

We were able to like reorient ourselves.

SPEAKER_00 14:30

I think we've got this down pretty well. It says knowing when your natural peaks and valleys are, you should schedule your projects based on that. Like we do try to do podcasts in the morning. We do try to do a lot of things in the morning. But this one was interesting. It says focus head down time on your peak production hours. So your peak productivity should be when you're like, okay, let's do this. But it says meetings, calls, and emails should be on your low level. Really? Which I was like, ooh, usually we're pretty high level in our meetings because we need to really focus.

SPEAKER_01 15:10

Yeah. I understand emails.

SPEAKER_00 15:13

Yeah, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 15:15

Meetings and calls, I need to be pretty high level.

SPEAKER_00 15:19

Yeah. I think maybe some well, okay. Let's be honest. We've been in some meetings that some people are pretty low level. Well, that's true. This is true.

SPEAKER_01 15:29

This is true. Well, and some meetings, some of our meetings, like today's meeting, when I was in the car driving at the director's meeting that was predominantly about website management stuff, I could have been completely low level because it had nothing to do with me. I could have been singing a song in my head because it didn't matter, right? That's true. So I could be pretty low level. So we kind of take turns in that meeting, who needs to be high level.

SPEAKER_00 16:06

So that could be even in that one-hour meeting, we had peaks and valleys within that meeting because for a while you were very intergating. Right.

SPEAKER_01 16:14

So you were married to, and then I could disengage and focus on my driving so I don't have a wreck.

SPEAKER_00 16:23

But the other thing that surprised me, it says use your higher stress work to boost your energy level. So a lot of times people think that when they're stressed, it slows them down. But most of the time, the studies have shown that when you have stress, like, oh my God, I gotta get this done. Oh my gosh, you know, somebody's watching me. Something like that boosts our energy level and motivation. I mean, you think about it, Lori, and I think you're just like this. When you have a deadline, I we both are. We have a deadline, what do we do? Like, that's a little bit of stress, and it's a motivation to get it done, and we can do things pretty darn fast at that point.

SPEAKER_01 17:03

Well, I think about times that like we've been together when we've built our prep school courses. Oh yeah. And they're, you know, we're trying to get the filming together, and maybe it's 9:30 at night, and we only have a certain amount of sunlight the next day, and we've got to shoot so many things, and we're exhausted, but somehow we rally and get all of the scripts ready before we go to bed because we have to. Yeah. I don't know. It is by the grace of God that we get it done, but we do. And then we get up in the morning. Right? Or big events that they're like, how are we gonna get this done? They just do. You just do. I think that's ex the perfect example of something like this.

SPEAKER_00 17:56

Yeah, I think so too. Because even as you're loading the van with all of the product and you're doing your checklist and you're like, okay, all right, let's go. Right. And then the adrenaline starts to go. You have stress because you don't know if you have enough people.

unknown 18:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:12

But you do, you end up, you get it done. Yeah. Holidays, same thing, right? Same type of thing. We've just gone through Valentine's Day, Mother's Day, and now wedding. So all of those things. When the stress kicks in, then the motivation and our I think our speed continues to go higher. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:32

I just think that's pretty cool. But to me, I do agree. I get have different types of stress. To me, when I'm in a group like that and we're doing project work, that type of stress to me is almost a good stress. Like it's a challenge stress and it does drive me. Now there's another type of stress in our lives, right? Like trauma stress, like some a horrible event that can be paralyzing where it doesn't energize you. It like paralyzes you. Right. That's true. We're not talking about that. I don't want people to listen and go, well, that doesn't do that to me. I'm paralyzed by stress. We're not talking about that kind. I'm talking, we're talking about like project type, work type. Again, like a wedding or a big event or something you're doing.

SPEAKER_00 19:29

The bad stress is what you're kind of talking about, that stress that causes anxiety. Yeah. Right. That is that paralyzing.

SPEAKER_01 19:36

Oh my gosh, I'm not gonna make it out of here type of thing that some people can get.

SPEAKER_00 19:42

You're you're right, Lori. Thank you for pointing that out because this is more of a stress for for work. Right. You know, the right amount of stress, the right kind of stress. Maybe that's what we should. Right, but right.

SPEAKER_01 19:53

It's that that does kick in your adrenaline of like, hey, we're gonna do this. And maybe it doesn't for you, but maybe there's somebody else on your team, it does, and they help drive you. Okay, if you say so, I'll come along for the ride. Like, you know, what that's how we all work together.

SPEAKER_00 20:10

It is, and then one will have that low, and then next one kicks in. It's like, right, okay, here comes Cammy. Oh, here comes Kelly, here comes Audrey, exactly. You know, who is the next person that brings that high back to it? Right. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:23

That's so important to have a good team of employees. Yeah. On your staff. It's so important to have a good staff because every single one of them are important.

SPEAKER_00 20:37

Just even if you have two, maybe it's yourself and you have a right-hand person, maybe you're a small shop, just that one person, if it's the right person, it makes all the difference in the world and the two of you working off one another. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, Lori, we're gonna take a quick break to hear a message from our sponsor. FlowerClick's expertise is your online store, your website. We create and professionally photograph current, trendy designs and add them to your website. Just like your physical shop, you have to change out the displays on your website. We do that for you. We merchandise the products on your website to entice customers to buy from you. It'll make you look great, you'll sell more at a higher price, and did I mention those are profitable designs. Your website is your best salesperson. And there's so much more to FlowerClick, but I'd be remiss if I didn't mention our tight-knit community of members. We have like-minded business owners who respect and really want to help one another. Our members are amazing, which drives us to do all we can for their success. Don't underestimate the power of what FlowerClick can do for you. Okay, well, to finish it up, the one thing that I thought was fascinating, and I think this would be a takeaway that people could. Really try an action plan. So one last curve we need to think about is the tactical way to optimize when you get to work, and that's communication curve. So this is a communication curve. Okay. And we get so many emails during the day. And maybe before I finish that, Lori, when you get an email, do you watch your email during the day so that you can be very responsive to it? I do. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 22:28

I will be working on something if an email comes in, especially if it's from a member. I will stop what I'm doing, click, respond, go back to what I'm doing. Another one comes in if it's from a member. I will read it if it's something that they need a response. So I'll get distracted, distracted, distracted.

SPEAKER_00 22:47

I will do that. That's what it's saying. Despite all the advantages of using email, because you don't have to pick up the phone and call them. You can just respond. Right. It takes so much time out of our day because you're redirecting from your email marketing or whatever it is you're working on to stop to do that. And then you have to refocus, which takes a lot of time. This is saying we can be so much more productive if we wait and say, okay, I'm only going to check my email. Maybe for you, just start every 10 minutes, right? Or 15 minutes or half hour. Yeah. And just kind of set a goal that you're not going to immediately respond. You're going to do it still in a timely manner. Yeah. But it allows our brain to really focus on what we're doing and then back and focus on the email.

SPEAKER_01 23:39

No, I agree. And Ellie, a long time ago, was telling me about scheduling a timer for focus time and how I should start with like setting a timer for 30 minutes because I probably couldn't do 50 minutes with my way my ADD. I said 15 minutes. Oh, I know. But she was saying 30 minutes of focus time when I'm doing research or mail or light or something where I'm only like I turn on my turn off all notifications. And then when my timer goes off, I'll take 10 minutes and then I'll check email and I'll check Slack and I'll do all of those things. After that, 10 minutes, I am free to go back and reset the timer if I want to. Or I can do another 10 minutes, like you know, but do those in chunks, like chunking instead of going back and forth. Because when I do go back and forth, that's when mistakes happen in the project I'm working on.

SPEAKER_00 24:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:50

That's true, because you're not totally you're not giving that project your all. No, because I think I was in one place, but I wasn't, and then I missed a detail in that. Anyway, it's just I I I should do that, but we're so used to instantly responding.

SPEAKER_00 25:10

We are even with our Slack. I mean, today, after I read that, I'm like, you know what? I'm gonna watch myself as I go through this day because I have a big project that I'm doing with our sympathy refresh. Yeah. And I'm like, okay, I need to focus my time on here. So I was doing it, and my Slack kept going ding, ding, ding, ding. And I'm like, no, keep on this, keep on this. And it's it's hard. It is hard because I do want to be very responsive to the team. But I'm like, okay, if I don't get to them for 15 minutes, is that going to be a problem? Vonda, no, it's not. You know, you're just you're talking to yourself, right, Lori? Right. You're like, no, I did, yeah. And so it worked very well. So I'm almost done, and which I wouldn't have been if I would have responded each time that was going off.

SPEAKER_01 25:58

So one thing I have done that has helped me in Slack, because I'm always at my desk with my computer, except for today, I was in my car driving, and I shouldn't have any notifications on in the first place driving. That's right. But I turned my Slack notifications and email notifications off on my phone, unless I'm going to be away from my computer, then I can just click them back on. Because what I was doing is I'd get up to go make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich for sit in my kitchen for 15 minutes just to take some breath breaths and eat. And I'm still checking my stuff in the middle of the day. And I'm like, this is stupid. This is not good for me. I need to take a breath. I need to look up. I need to look out a window. You know, right. I can do this for 15 minutes. That's okay. And have you gotten better at that? I have because I turned off the notifications. If I'm like somewhere I won't be at my computer, then I'll turn them on.

SPEAKER_00 27:10

It's interesting because it's just the opposite for me. I have my notifications shut up on my computer, but I have them on my phone.

SPEAKER_01 27:18

Oh, funny.

SPEAKER_00 27:19

Why yeah? Because my phone is very quiet when it goes on. And my computer is this like loud ding.

SPEAKER_01 27:26

Oh, okay. Okay. I have them on silence on my computer. Okay. One just came through and it's silent. It just pops up. Silent. We got to do what works for us. But I know if they come through on my phone and it's 7:30 at night and I'm on my couch, I'm gonna start looking at them. And chances are they have nothing to do with me, but I'm still gonna go dive in.

SPEAKER_00 27:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:54

And I'm like, why am I doing that? So why am I doing that? Yeah, that's right. But I think business owners and people, they they go down those roads too. It's hard to stop, it's hard to find stopping points.

SPEAKER_00 28:06

Yeah. So I think really the takeaway would be one, if you don't already know, discover when your most productive times of the day are and to be able to utilize those. And if you have a project, so like I'm a business owner and I'm really the most productive between 10 and noon. Well, if you need to be productive in design, go back and do that. Otherwise, if you really need to focus on something in the office, you need to tell the staff, hey, I have to be here right now because I have to focus to get this done. Yeah. And use your most productive times to do that. And again, the email thing, I think everybody could test themselves on that to see if they could wait and respond later.

SPEAKER_01 28:46

Yeah. Yeah. I would find out from everyone in my staff where they are. Are they morning people? Are they evening people, especially when it comes to like weddings and events? Because I put my evening people on events takedown and all those kind of things, you know? For sure. Or yeah, because I mean, I'm thinking, what if you're a total morning person? And I would hate to be put on that.

SPEAKER_00 29:13

That would be terrible. Yeah, you and I couldn't do that. We'd have to be sleeping in the car waiting for no way.

SPEAKER_01 29:19

I mean, we could show up at six in the morning for cleanup crew, but we couldn't show up at midnight. No, that would be the worst. We couldn't.

SPEAKER_00 29:31

We'd be fired right away, Laura.

SPEAKER_01 29:33

We would be fired. I mean, that's the thing.

SPEAKER_00 29:38

Florists are amazing. Yeah, they are. Everything they have to do, it is amazing.

SPEAKER_01 29:44

I was talking to uh a florist at Texas State. The the guy, I can't remember his name. I wish I could, I'd give him a shout out. He was talking to us at our booth for a long time, trying to figure out like, well, what can I do to be a member? And we really can't because he's I have such respect for you and what you do. And first of all, that you deal with brides, though, and he was nodding, you know, and it's funny. Over and over and over, we heard the same thing about the brides that spend a thousand dollars or less are uh ten times more high maintenance than the brides that spend seven thousand dollars or more. Yeah, I was amazed, yeah, yeah, surprising. I really heard that from four different florists, like reputable florists there.

SPEAKER_00 30:38

So in that case, you would say we do weddings that are only seven thousand above.

SPEAKER_01 30:45

Well, we have a shop that does that, remember?

SPEAKER_00 30:48

We have some shops though that would say, I'll do a small wedding every day. So you don't know whether they have certain guidelines that they have for those smaller weddings, or you know, why they that's what he was trying to figure out.

SPEAKER_01 31:00

Can you like build me just like tier like A, B, or C? And I was like, I no, but you could build that, like, I don't know, it's a good idea, you know. Yeah, it's good idea, but I've had for him. I hooked him up with the other person that had just mentioned it. I go, you guys need a support group.

SPEAKER_00 31:20

So yeah, that makes all the difference in the world. Get together, brainstorm, and come up with something.

SPEAKER_01 31:24

I'm up with the worst is about you to do it because I I did not realize. He goes, Yeah, because they are trying to get top-of-the-line flowers for nothing.

unknown 31:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:36

Well, the Pinterest has made that happen.

SPEAKER_01 31:39

Mostly Instagram and Pinterest, I think, because those are where all the pretty pictures are, right? Of the flowers that the I guess the brides have no idea how much they cost.

SPEAKER_00 31:50

No, they don't either. Well, Lori, we will be seeing each other again very soon. Yeah, and I hope the listeners that are gonna be at AIFD.

SPEAKER_01 32:00

I hope so too. And so come up to our booth. Ellie and I are gonna be at the booth, Donna's gonna be at the booth, you'll be in and out, but you're gonna mostly be in the workroom behind closed doors.

SPEAKER_00 32:12

We'll be hiding out in the flyer room, Miss Julie and I. Yep, yeah, and shout out to Renee Tucci, she'll be there with us.

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