The Business & Pleasure of Flowers
Join Vonda LaFever and Lori Wilson as they share expert advice, insider tips, and a whole lot of fun on all things floral. While everyone loves flowers, running a floral business can come with its fair share of challenges that might make you lose sight of the joy it brings. In this engaging and informative podcast, Vonda’s wealth of floral expertise pairs perfectly with Lori’s background in teaching, sales training, and life coaching to deliver valuable insights you can use right away.
From industry trends and the flower shop of the future to overcoming obstacles like boosting sales and building a stellar customer service team, they’ve got you covered. Discover how small shifts in your mindset and approach can create big transformations in your business and life.
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The Business & Pleasure of Flowers
Floral Journey & Industry Wisdom with Beth O’Reilly
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Episode 274: Join hosts Vonda and Lori as they chat with Beth O’Reilly, an internationally recognized floral artist and educator. Beth takes us on a journey through her dynamic career—covering everything from retail floristry to product development in China to mass market floral design.
They reminisce about industry mentors, the power of showing up, and how opportunities often bloom from unexpected moments. Beth also shares her insights on floral trends, the behind-the-scenes world of flower breeding, and the importance of self-care in this labor-intensive industry.
If you love flowers and want to hear from someone who’s done it all in the floral world, this episode is for you! Plus, there’s plenty of laughter, a bit of FOMO, and even a “Would You Rather” moment. Tune in, Cliquers!
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SPEAKER_01Welcome to the business and pleasure of flowers. We're your hosts, Vonda LaFever and Lori Wilson.
SPEAKER_02And we believe that business and fun are a perfect combination. Kind of like us, Vonda.
SPEAKER_01Lori, here we are with not only the two of us here having a good time, but one of my really good friends, Beth O'Reilly, is here to join us. Hi, how are you? Wonderful. Thanks for having me.
SPEAKER_00Chatting with the flower click ladies. I can't think of anything better.
SPEAKER_02So excited when I saw you a couple weeks ago, and then I was like, hey, we gotta make Vonda a video. Make her feel bad that she's not here.
SPEAKER_01You did. You really did. We did FOMO there.
SPEAKER_02Thank you very much. Yes, you're welcome. You know, it's what we're here for, Vonda. It's just what we do. It's what we do. What we do. Then I got back and Vonda was like, that was so sweet of you. It made me miss it. I was like, we need to have her on the podcast. We haven't had you. It's been a couple years.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it has been a while, and there's lots of stuff to talk about. I'm never at a loss to talk about flowers, that's for sure.
SPEAKER_02I know, I know. So that's what we're gonna do. But I want to start with a question because I don't know that I actually know this because you and Vonda go, I don't want to say you're old because you're not, but you go way back in this industry.
SPEAKER_00How about saying that when I started out and was young, I really found some mentorships from some of the best women in the industry. And Vonda was one of them.
SPEAKER_02How about that? I love, I love that. So let's start with that. So, how did you guys meet in this industry?
SPEAKER_00Because you guys are in very wonderful group of ladies that are a wealth of knowledge. Vonda is in that realm with these ladies, and I've gotten to work on special projects, so like daughters' weddings and things like that. And that's how I came to know Vonda, but that was with the Pearl Sisters. So the Pearl Sisters were around before I got in the industry. I feel like they were a group of women who were really there to support one another in the floral industry, and they were also making new waves in the industry and doing things that hadn't been done before, and traveling to Asia and doing product development and all of this wonderful stuff. And so I kind of showed up one day with my toolbox to help them do one of the Pearl Sister's daughter's wedding, and the rest is history.
SPEAKER_01Yes, it is. The rest is history. And we just kind of looked like, who is this coming in the door with her toolbox? Because we didn't know you, right? Michelle knew you.
SPEAKER_00Oh, so Michelle's Michelle's. Michelle Perry White's daughter's wedding in Austin, and the flower studio is where it was my home shop where I grew up in flowers, basically. And it was right around the corner. And Michelle would have these lovely things made in China. The centerpiece, metal centerpieces and containers and all of this stuff. So she needed a home for it, and we were going to give that stuff a home. But I also knew that the ladies were going to be there working. So I just thought I'd show up with my tools and just be at their disposal. If they wanted me to soak foam, I would soak foam.
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SPEAKER_01Yeah. She said, I can soak foam. And we're like, you were well, that's the funny story.
SPEAKER_00Because that was the first job I was given. And I was like, Great. I I will not push it in the water. Don't you worry. Right. Right. That's rule number one, you know, don't push your foam in the water. So that was that was it was great. I remember moving the ceremony pieces over to the hotel. And I picked up these really heavy shepherds hooks that were at the ceremony, and I carried like five of them to the hotel in one shot. And Michelle Perry White said, Okay, I'm taking you to China with me. I think you can handle it. So that's kind of how I started on that journey. And, you know, flowers really found me. And the people that came across in my flower journey are meant to be. And Vonda's one of them, Michelle's one of them, Kim Morrell, Susan Standifer, Sherra Magukin. Just a wonderful group of ladies who really, without even trying, instilled so much in me, just learning and confidence and gosh, a world of flowers I didn't even know was out there, like traveling abroad and doing product development at the time. So it opened up my eyes, and the Pearl Sisters, I can say I'm one of them, and they're very near and dear to me.
SPEAKER_02Wow, wow, wow. You are definitely a Pearl. So you weren't raised in this industry.
SPEAKER_00No, but let's see, I started at about 18 years old. I did Bud Vases in a little shop outside of Toledo, Ohio, where I'm from. I was home for school for a break, and I started doing flowers, and I really liked it. They graduated me to doing lots of other designs. And then by the time I moved to Texas to do my schooling in Texas, I decided I wanted to go to Texas. Flowers were just kept me on my journey. They kept me fed, they kept me in a job, they kept me growing personally and professionally. And they also helped me discover my true passion, which is fine art sculpture. So flowers really lent themselves towards that view of looking at them as art pieces. And although they're femoral and they wither away, you know, they still have a profound place not only in our world, but a metaphor for our own human existence.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Yeah. Wow, that's incredible. I have a question for you. So every time I hear you or or run into you, which isn't really that often anymore, because we're just all ships that are passing in different ways. You're on like different journeys. Like, let's talk about all of the different jobs you have been able to have. Right. I was just because of this industry. Because what I think, and I know we send you like a couple of questions. This is the hardest part of my job because I never have questions for podcasts. And that's kind of become a new thing. Von is like, you have to send people prep questions. I'm like, why? I don't have any. But you've been able to be in every segment almost of this industry.
SPEAKER_00I've because of the only thing that I haven't been involved in is at farm level. I've experienced a lot with what I've done working, but yeah, almost every part of the industry I have dipped my toe into and, you know, tried my best at perfecting. So yeah, I started out doing, like I said, learning the business, cleaning buckets, delivering flowers. I learned this the city of Austin and how to deliver flowers before we had cell phones. I used a MacBook, you know. So I've been there and done it all. And I really do think what's led me is just following my heart and my intuition and the people that surround me, building me up and helping me. So even the journey of finding AIFD, becoming accredited with American Institute of Florida Design, and then opening up to all these other things, I just wanted more and more and more. So I guess that's led me to an array of different jobs within the industry. So that would be a retail florist, a wedding and event florist, a freelance wedding and event florist. I opened up and general managed a wholesale house. I was the director of education for a wholesale company. I did product development in China, which is the permanent botanical. So that was a whole different side of the industry completely. And now I find myself on the mass market side, which is really intriguing. And there's a lot, I think, to learn from that side of the industry for the general retail florist to kind of understand the way that all the moving parts in our industry work. So that's been really cool.
SPEAKER_01It's been eye-opening, hasn't it, that part of the industry that you really were like, I really didn't know all this was happening. So many moving behind the scenes.
SPEAKER_00So many moving parts behind the scenes of what we do. And sometimes I think it's just crazy. I think, how in the world did we even perfect it to what we perfected it? We're perfecting it even more. And I think, you know, there's a lot of challenges, and there's always going to be, and we've got tariffs we're talking about, and we're all talking about it. And there's groups of us coming together, I think, more collaboratively right now, which to me is really inspiring. And I think there's that opening of collaboration with mass market and the farm level and the retail florist of really understanding our industry and what our narrative needs to be.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Which our narrative is always going to be about we're the one industry that can spread joy like we do through natural, beautiful flowers. And that's really something special. And no other industry can say that or understand what we do. So it's really important for us to talk about it, I think.
SPEAKER_02I'm sitting here and I'm listening to you, and I'm looking at both you and Bonda, and you know, between the two of you, you have a lot of education in this industry. Like you've received a lot of education, you've taken a lot of training, like a lot, as much as you can.
SPEAKER_00Sometimes the best education is just being thrown right into it.
SPEAKER_02But yes, it's exactly how we learn the best. But you also like your AIFD training, like all of those things. And what I find a lot of younger generation, they don't always really, they're like, eh, you know, they don't really look at that as real important.
SPEAKER_00How do you answer for that to me goes back to this whole flower journey because everybody's journey is so different. And what one person might find important for them professionally, another person might not. And so I I respect that. I definitely think there's ways of learning the principles and elements of design and upping your game for floristry that don't have to be just getting your AIFD certification. I think whatever path you take, it's really what you make of it. It is the opportunities that you're given and what you make of those opportunities as you go along the way. And now there's so many opportunities and there's so many different directions that people can go that it really is like writing your own flower journey.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I think sometimes, though, Beth, we have to be careful and we have to guide people in the right direction because there is a lot of misinformation about principles and elements of design. And so it's kind of like, oh, well, that's really interesting that you've chosen that. But you might really look here to compare the two of those and to see what are the correct way to learn those.
SPEAKER_00And that was always part of my journey, even in art class. I'm a sculpture major. So I learned the principles and principles and elements of design in art 101. And then I got to take them along with me when I was getting my AFB certification. They were already a foundation for me. But yes, absolutely a foundation of learning and understanding the principles and elements of design. This is an art, it's an artistry that we have, and we can't look at it as if you don't need the foundation of training for sure.
SPEAKER_01Right. And find a really good foundation to start with. And then the passion, like you're saying, and all the opportunities open up and like, oh my gosh, look at so much. There's so much here. What do what do I want to do? Or where am I being led?
SPEAKER_00Well, and there's great resources out there. And there's not just one answer. Um, we have states organizations that do a great job of teaching. We have AIFD that does a great job. You guys are here for the industry, which is amazing wealth of knowledge. So well, our Texas state does a great, great, they have wonderful resources. Yes, they do. They do. And by the way, I'll be doing a presentation next month, April 3rd, I believe, at Bill Doran in San Antonio. So I'm looking forward to that. I don't know when this airs, but it's probably might be too late.
SPEAKER_02But yeah, yes. And I actually saw that on Texas State social media, and I think I'd shared it in our Facebook group. What are you gonna be teaching on?
SPEAKER_00We are doing a kaleidoscope of color and a fiesta theme. So, really, all of life's celebrations fall into this vibrant. I just want to share new design techniques with every celebration in life. And we're really focusing on Fiesta because it's a fun San Antonio thing. I'm learning about fiesta stuff. I didn't really even know. Fiesta coins, and like there's a whole culture in San Antonio around Fiesta. So I'm looking forward to having fun with it. I have some design techniques I'm gonna be sharing. Yeah, and we're gonna cover just about everything when it comes to floristry from parties, quincineras, weddings. Fun, it's gonna be colorful and it's gonna be a flower party.
SPEAKER_02So and it's before Cinco de Mayo.
SPEAKER_00It's and it's right before Fiesta as well. So we're gonna get people all amped up for fiesta, and San Antonio is a great place to do that.
SPEAKER_02Yes, it is. So speaking of all of that, what are some current trends and things you are seeing right now in our industry?
SPEAKER_00No, it's funny because I look at trends from the design side and the fashion and the architectural side, and then I also look at trends at the farm level, which has to happen five, six years before a trend actually hits. Right. So it's I find myself becoming more and more interested at the farm level and the breeding process and how 50,000 seedlings it takes to come up with one new variety of Dianthus. It's a six-year process. And when I get to go to the farm, which is in the Boca Top Plateau, it's beautiful. You really get to see this test lab room of all the stems that they've been testing. And these are years of work with one cutting, and the whole room is full. And they're, gosh, going over all the notes about every little detail about the flower, you know, the vase life, the petal formation, all of these things. And I find that fascinating. So they don't actually bring a flower to market until it passes this rigorous test. And we just had Diane this week and came out with like 20, 24 new carnations and about 10 mini carnations, spray carnations. I'm a carnation nerd. I love them. I love the different color tonations you can get. I think carnations are a great way to be on trend because there are so many colors and we can do some color bridging and use some real complex color patterns. I think we don't have to rack our brains sometimes to come up with a flower that doesn't exist in a certain color, like it's probably in a carnation. So I'm very into trends when it comes to the carnations and the colors, and we just came out with some great ones. But then as far as design goes, I really love seeing the mix of raw materials, really organic, raw materials, mixing them, you know, kind of a juxtaposition with lighter, feathier, more airier types of flowers and designs. It's not a particular color, it's more of a theme. So we've been seeing that with organic brutalism, which was what you got to see when you were in the SAF. We did an art gallery, basically, of a larger inspiration piece that inspired the organic brutalist trend, and then paired it down. I focused on mass market, so I paired my larger vision into something that was sellable at mass market level, which is really and that's what I do. So I loved it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, no, I appreciated that. And Jody also did. He paired his down with a little uh sellable item. It was like a scoop.
SPEAKER_00Yes, he had the hand-carved wood.
SPEAKER_02Yes, yeah, because you know, it's my job. I'm always looking at yes, this is beautiful, but what can I save? Right. What would I buy? What can I take back to my flower click members and tell them about and yours and his were the ones I took the pictures of to focus on because that's reality, right?
SPEAKER_00Right. And sustainability was another thing. I mean, it's always a trend. It needs to be a trend for us. It needs to be something that we're always striving to be better at. I worked a little bit of that into my interpretation, and I had 100% recycled paper vessels that hold water.
SPEAKER_02I love those. Were those the little white?
SPEAKER_00They were all the vessels. Every vessel that I had, they were accordion-shaped and they were those like the ones I'm talking.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, almost looked like a giant coffee filter or a cupcake holder.
SPEAKER_00Yes, yeah, and it's a little bag and it holds water, and the water stays in there for like a month. I've tested them and done a lot of tests on them, and I'm just I really am in love with them. Gosh, we had QR codes of where you could go to buy that. You can buy these on the market, and I'm happy to share that with you afterwards. Maybe you can share it with your listeners.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. So let me ask you this though, being the realist, how expensive are they?
SPEAKER_00They're not expensive at all. They're not. The hard part about them is folding them up. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Got it. Got it.
SPEAKER_01Well, it was interesting. I want to go back to a minute. There's when you were doing the testing, you're talking about the testing at the Ogotaw area. And that to me was intriguing as well because what they were saying when we were there is like, you don't even know if you're getting it right, right? You're looking at six years and you're not going to create the trend. You're trying to guess what it's what the projections are going to be and what that trend might be. Are we going to do all of this work? And it's like, mmm, whoops, that fell flat. You know, it's so hard, right? I mean, we can try to push it forward as designers and marketers, but a lot of times the consumer is like, nope, not that one. And they'll go with that for one.
SPEAKER_00It's so surprising. We'll be we'll be so heartset on a certain product or a certain variety. And then really what the consumer wants is something basic like a red carnation. So, or even a white white carnations are actually really hard to come by. They have to keep breeding and breeding and breeding because they start to turn cream. So people don't know that. So that's one of the things I really feel like, you know, if you're in this industry, dive deep. Don't be afraid. There's more than you realize out there to learn in this industry. And it's really fascinating.
SPEAKER_02Well, so much. That's why go to stuff, go to your conventions, go to your match conventions, and talk to people.
SPEAKER_00You never know. You're gonna be in a room of people that you may never be with again and take full advantage, and you you never know what opportunities come from that.
SPEAKER_02So I have learned so much by sitting and listening to growers on a panel. I'm just in. Yeah, it's mind-blowing.
SPEAKER_00It's so mind-blowing. Wow, there's really so much here that we're still at the precipice of learning and doing.
SPEAKER_02And they're all scientists.
SPEAKER_00Like scientific artists because there is art and science involved in this breeding proctor. And I think that really excites me, right? Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Like yeah, it's just insane. It's so fascinating to me.
SPEAKER_01So anyway. When you were mentioning going to events and watching and learning and everything, I think that what people don't realize, Beth, is because you and I have gone to so many things and you're just there and you're just interacting. You don't know when somebody's watching you from across the room. You don't know if you're bumping into somebody who later will come up to somebody else and say, Oh my gosh, you should see Beth O'Reilly and ask her to do this for you or give her this opportunity. I think she'd be the perfect person for this. I think you and I have been in those situations before that we're like taken back because we're like, you want me to do that? Well, uh, how did you even know me? And it's not that they know us, it's that we've participated in something and somebody else is doing something else and they're interacting. And I think that that is the most unstated opportunity in our industry, is that if you're just there being yourself, getting advantage of the opportunity.
SPEAKER_00Somebody's gonna notice and and and it feels like things are falling in your lap, but really you're out there making those paths and that journey and making those things happen. I think about the project that I got to do at the San Diego Museum of Art, and it's their art alive project that they do annually every year, and they bring in a floral artist to do the rotunda. It's a huge three-story rotunda, it's beautiful in an art museum. Like, oh my goodness, it's it's amazing. And I got to do that. I say it fell into my lap. But these are things there was a foundation, just like learning floral design and floral artists. You're laying down a foundation of what's to come in the future. And that was just an amazing experience where I had all of these women floral designer friends of mine that came and volunteered their time, like a week of their time, and farms that donated product, and we we flowered the heck out of that rotunda. And what an experience to be able to just say that you've done it. For me, it's not even the final piece where you step back and you're like, oh, I have a photograph of the moment. It's the parts in between that really fill my heart.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's so well said. So well said. That's what fills our heart. It's not the finished product, it's the journey, even that week that you work together with everyone. Everyone and everything that everybody put together in that. I just think it's great.
SPEAKER_02So speaking of presenting, this question is actually for both of you because I don't think I've ever asked you this, Bonda, but I'm gonna start with Beth. Beth, would you rather, and this is not a drinking game, but it could be. If it was afternoon, I would say it was our drinking game. Would you rather, are you happier when you are on stage presenting in front of a live studio audience or behind the scenes at the rotunda building with a team of fabulous women? Which gives you more satisfaction?
SPEAKER_00I mean, I think they're both satisfying, but for me personally, the designing behind the scenes and, you know, like I said, with the relationships that you're building and the flowers that you're getting to use and the creative path that you're taking, because you know, you never really know exactly. You have to be flexible. You never know exactly what it's gonna look like. So to me, that whole part brings me a lot of joy, we'll just say. It's not that it's more joy or less joy, it just brings me a lot of joy. And to step back and see a vision come together where everybody can work without a lot of talking, and it's more like a dance that we're doing with flowers that we're creating this amazing space that people then get to come and experience. That to me is like I'm getting goosebumps just talking about it. Like, you know, having people experience your flowers that you work together as a team, and people come and experience it in a way they never really imagined they'd experienced flowers before. And it makes them feel a certain way. And that's really cool to be able to do. So for me, that kind of work, like installations and site-specific stuff and working with the team, and like I said, working with a team where maybe you don't have to do a lot of talking about what you're doing and you're just really in the zone creating. Yes, yeah, that's the spot that I want to be in all the time. I get nervous presenting, I think most people do. And so that can be kind of exhausting at the end of the day. I love it when it's all said and done. But yeah, I'm very much into the creative process and working with other people in that capacity.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Bonda, what about you? You know my answer, Lori. You know me. I'm behind the scenes person.
SPEAKER_02You both, it's because you both are first and foremost your artists at heart. It's the artistry and the teamwork, and you also both love work with the team. And the product, the product that you get to work with these amazing express products. Well, that's an artist. It's you love working with beautiful products. But I will say, and Beth, I'm making this assumption. I'm assuming you're like this. Bonda loves working with the team, but she is picky on who is on that team.
SPEAKER_00Yes, that's what I'm saying. You've been in this business long enough, you know exactly, you know, and like I said, if you caught my little thing about like not talking too much.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, exactly. Right there, right there.
SPEAKER_00Let's get in the zone and just make something beautiful. So yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So I love, I love that.
SPEAKER_02So is there something you're still waiting on? Like, is there something in this industry that you're like, okay, I love my job now. I've had all these others, I'll love what I'm in yet. Um but well, I would say a TV show, but I got to do that. You did you're in that? That was gonna be my next question. I won't I need to have the scoop. Are you do you still keep in touch with any of them?
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah. I everybody that was on the show, I follow on social media. Some of them we keep in contact, but it was a really lovely experience on all levels. So I hope I continue to keep in touch with them for the rest of my life.
SPEAKER_02Are they all for the most part still in the industry?
SPEAKER_00I think so, yeah. I mean, there's probably a couple that I've lost track of, but for the most part, they're all, you know, doing the flower thing, which is it's hard work. There's hard work. I know it looks glamorous when we see it on social media and on the TV screen and and all of that stuff, but it's hard work behind it. So I think, you know, they're all still working hard.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, for sure. Well, as are you.
SPEAKER_00I'm really happy right now. I am living a dream job. One of the questions you wrote down is, what would be your dream job? And and I wrote down that I'm I'm living it. I get to work remotely from home. I get to develop products from my own cooler in my own studio and really have a say-so as a lead designer about where our company, Duchess Bouquets, is going and the future of floristry. I feel like I'm in a place where I have a pulse on that. And so that's that's amazing. I don't think I could really ask for anything more except for maybe more time with my family.
SPEAKER_03Because we've worked so hard.
SPEAKER_00But yeah, I I love my job and I always love a good competition. So I would never turn that down. If I had one thing that I really wanted to accomplish in my career before it's all said and done, it would be the World Cup competition. But that's not always so easy to do. It costs money to do those big competitions. So right now my focus is on my family and doing what I do and helping the company and the industry just move forward.
SPEAKER_01And you're doing a fabulous job at all that I mean, oh my gosh, trying to balance that, the family, right, with everything else that you do in the industry.
SPEAKER_00I'm pretty lucky. I'm pretty lucky. The boys do okay without me when I'm gone. So I I leave again to on Saturday and I've traveled the last few weeks, and that keeps things exciting and it can be exhausting at the same time. But there's a passion behind it, so it makes it all worth it.
SPEAKER_02So, Beth, what is one piece of advice you would give to people in our industry or to our podcast listeners? Because that's the only people listening to the city.
SPEAKER_00Number one, it would be just be ready to be a problem solver because that's what flowers is about. No matter what level of the industry you're on, problem solving and not getting too upset about anything right at the beginning will go a long way. But taking care of your body and taking care of yourself, because this is a demanding industry. And we also have to care for the people that we're teaching and training that are coming up in the industry to take care of themselves. I see something in our industry as space for teaching about this, how to take care of your back, how to lift properly, what's the best way to do a deadlift, you know, how to even hydrate and eat whole foods when, especially when we have a holiday happening. I've been to so many shops and I've seen so many horror stories of people even getting so exhausted that they pass out or they cut themselves. And yeah, we need to take good care of each other and teach each other how not to hurt ourselves.
SPEAKER_02That's so good. Oh true, true, because we're always in a hurry. Yep. Right? We're that grab and go and hurry up and get this done so we can move to the next thing.
SPEAKER_00It's just labor-intensive what we do. At the the bottom line is, and that's part of what we charge for. I mean, it's a big part of what we charge for. Yes, flowers cost money and they're expensive, but it's also the time and everything that goes into running a shop and taking care of your customers and your flowers. There's there's a lot involved in it. So self-care. That's one thing I'm teaching myself this year, self-care.
SPEAKER_02No, that's really good. I like the thought of even how to properly lift things.
SPEAKER_00Like just reviewing them, bringing them up, talking about it with your staff, reviewing for yourself so that you're not expecting somebody to go lift something without a dolly just because it needs to be lifted right away. You know, it's not cancer, it's flowers.
SPEAKER_02Right, right, right, right, right. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. It's really good. I've even asked my daughter, she's a registered dietitian, and I was like, I want you to come on the podcast before a really busy holiday and do a 15-minute pod with me on a eat this, not that. Just like it change it out with modifications, not because she doesn't use the D word, D-I-E-T word, because they're very but instead of candy bars, maybe this would you set out a table of snacks? Right. What could be replaced? Just like that kind of thing to replace that would give us good whole fats and for energy, because think about that. You need energy to sustain us throughout the day, not quick that's gonna go through us and then we're gonna get us through the work day.
SPEAKER_01Sorry, easier said than done, Miss Bailey Wilson.
SPEAKER_02Well, that's what Bailey's like, I don't know. No one I know, I know, I get it, I get it.
SPEAKER_00Little things, I think there could be definitely a whole program built that flowers can follow, and it would be the perfect people to do that.
SPEAKER_01There we go. Let's try it. There we go, Beth. Well, I'm glad that you're leading the way with that for your goal for this year. I mean, that's you are somebody people watch, and when you say it, people listen. So we'll just keep it at that.
SPEAKER_00I turned 50 this year. I'm not ashamed to say it. I turned 50 this year, and that's part of the reason why the self-care comes up, because you realize just like a flower, we have our time and I'm gonna make the most of mine. So you gotta take care of yourself.
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