10 Signs You’re Mentally Strong (Even If You Don’t Feel Like It)

Episode 313: It’s almost Christmas, the packages are at the mercy of FedEx and UPS, and Lori’s dad is calling two days before the holiday wondering if he should buy gifts for all the grandkids. In other words, peak season energy.

In this episode, Lori brings a list she found called “10 signs you’re mentally strong (but may not realize it)” and the conversation turns into a surprisingly relatable look at mental toughness, what it really means, how it changes with age, and why it matters so much when you’re running a flower shop. From cutting off toxic customers, to forgiving without reconnecting, to saying no without guilt, to not overreacting to one bad review, Lori and Vonda connect real-life growth to real-life business ownership. They also talk about healing privately, staying focused instead of posting everything, and learning to use silence as a strategy—especially in the rare quiet moments between seasons.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:01

So mental toughness looks like ending a relationship with a customer that's toxic. It could be ending a toxic relationship with your wholesaler.

SPEAKER_01 0:15

Welcome to the Business and Pleasure of Flowers. We're your hosts, Vonda LaFever and Lori Wilson.

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And we believe that business and fun are a perfect combination. Kind of like us, Vonda.

SPEAKER_01 0:30

Good morning, Vonda. And it's almost Christmas. It is almost Christmas. And I took this weekend and I got everything wrapped, Lori. Same.

SPEAKER_03 0:40

Well, I I'd like to say every single thing, but there are still things not here. Yeah. Same. Same. Beyond my control. It is up to the FedEx slash UPS goddesses and gods and whoever and mailman.

SPEAKER_01 0:58

Lell, let me share a fun fact with you. Okay. I am here in Niceville, Florida, and yes, Saturday was the last day I could order anything to be delivered before Christmas. Wow. How did you know that? Because you go on to order and it says arrives after Christmas. Arrives after Christmas. So it m maybe it was like midnight on Saturday. So anyway, if you don't live in a big city, you'll have things. Oh, yeah. Yeah. There's a huge Amazon here in Houston. Okay. Well, that was my little fun fact. So I'm shopping Amazon. Any last-minute things I have to go out to an actual store and purchase. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:40

Here's my fun fact. I get a call about 15 minutes ago this morning from Lenny. Oh, Lenny. In mine today is December 22nd. And he says, Hey there, Lori. I hate to bother you. That's how he starts almost every conversation. Just hates to bother me for the seventh time. And oh no, Daddy, what do you need? Well, it's gonna be Christmas, right? Yes, it is gonna be a Christmas because there's like 20 Christmas trees in his place. So he's just now catching on. And he said, Do I need to get all the grandkids some presents? I need to get them something. Can you go out and get them something from me? Now keep in mind, grandchildren live all over the United States. And I said, You know what, Daddy? Here's the thing. We decided when you turned 90, you didn't have to buy presents anymore. And he said, Who decided that? And I said, I decided that. I said, that is a rule. I said, I told you last year, you did. So we had this conversation where I convinced him and just really struggling with it. And I'm like, it is two days left for stores to be open. And you want me to go out and get seven gifts.

SPEAKER_00 3:03

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 3:04

Like, that's not happening, buddy.

SPEAKER_01 3:07

So anyway, good for you, Lori. Good for you.

SPEAKER_03 3:11

I said, Christmas morning, I'm gonna come get you, bring you over. You will only have two grandchildren in your presence that morning. I'll grab a little something for each of them under the tree from you because I get that. It doesn't want feel. Yeah. Yeah. So that could be something small, like a little gift card.

SPEAKER_01 3:32

Sure, sure. So at least they can say it says from Papa. Thank you, Papa. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 3:38

Yes. Anyway, it's like, oh my gosh. It's just one of those still like no concept of time. Nope. Like, I we wouldn't even get to the grandchildren outside of here. So he's thinking about it. But he's thinking. Well, yeah. So I'm like, well, gosh, at least that he connected the dot there. Last year he didn't even connect the dot. So we're we're progressing here.

SPEAKER_01 4:02

I love it.

SPEAKER_03 4:03

I love it. That was good news. So anyway, speaking of just saying no, that's on our list today.

SPEAKER_01 4:09

Oh, okay.

unknown 4:10

Great.

SPEAKER_03 4:11

Still like this, I'm sure. I think you will. So I haven't given you the list.

SPEAKER_01 4:16

I have no idea what we're doing today, listeners. It's one of those surprises that Lori has for me that she's always trying to catch me in something. So here we go.

SPEAKER_03 4:25

Well, I thought that's really good, especially for kind of this time of year. And some of these I struggle, well, I personally struggle with, of course, but I was reading an article and it's called 10 signs you're mentally strong. Okay. But you may not realize you're mentally strong. And so the title was intriguing to me because I started thinking about mental toughness and how that kind of is a weighted phrase because yes, we need to be mentally tough, but then we can also just be so tough we have no empathy in our life. There's a balance, there's a balance. Fine in the balance. I was thinking a lot about flower shops and again, obviously customer service and how you do have to be somewhat tough in customer service. So I wanted to go through these and talk about them from just a personal growth standpoint and professional. Put it in a I actually, to be completely transparent, I took these and then I threw them into my chat GPT and I said, okay, take these and relate them to a flower shop owner or a florist. Okay. And so she kicked out some stuff and it triggered some stories in my brain of conversations that I've had. I'm like, oh, I remember that. Okay. Okay. So mental fortitude is important. We have to have mental toughness to be a business owner. The whole concept of the article was like mentally strong people. The biggest sign is they know when to say enough is enough. I think boundaries is a word we use a lot. And as I was reading this, I could see for me in my own personal life. Speaking of, we haven't had a moment to talk about the Santa hat you're wearing and my lovely llama. And it is gonna be 80 degrees outside. Yeah, I am choosing to wear a sparkly reindeer fleece.

SPEAKER_01 6:43

And you're just sucking it up. Look at you being it up.

SPEAKER_03 6:46

I'm taking one for the click team. As I was going through these, I was kind of doing that self-check that we always do. Yep. And it was interesting because through each one, I'm seeing how as I aged and probably through therapy and life and experience, I started acquiring some of these and doing them better. Some I'm still struggling with, of course, but the key is I'm aware I struggle with them.

SPEAKER_01 7:21

Yep. Awareness. We always talked about that.

SPEAKER_03 7:23

We talked about that. Like, oh, that one's a hard one for me, but I'm working on it. So, number one, this is a sign of mental toughness. Okay. I think that these are all signs of being really good. You cut people off without warning. I don't mean just flat out interrupt you and walk away. This means mentally strong people know when to say enough is enough. They're kind, but not to a fault. They value their peace over a performative relationship. Think about this. Think about you and me, the difference in how we have relationships. This is what I was thinking. I'm every one of these, I was picturing you and me. I was like, oh, she does this one so much better. They're not afraid to cut people off without warning. Again, let me be clear. I don't mean cut them off mid-sentence and just go, you suck and walk off. I mean being kind was great to meet you, blah blah blah. Walking where you're going. Okay. No, I'm not having relationship with them. People that do this, you go up to them before you leave the party to give them a hug, goodbye, to make sure they know you're leaving, or you don't.

SPEAKER_01 8:45

Interesting. Interesting.

SPEAKER_03 8:49

I think you do a good job of this. Maybe to a fault, though.

SPEAKER_01 8:53

Maybe to a fault. Because the one word that you said, which I catch myself sometimes, is try to be kind. Because some that's what I'm saying. But I think you're growing because you catch yourself.

SPEAKER_03 9:05

You're like, oh, did I say that out loud? Or did I give that look for real? Because I thought it was a good idea.

SPEAKER_01 9:17

But other times I'm thinking that I have to be more kind because I do give you that look. I don't mean you, Lori.

SPEAKER_03 9:26

Well, you have given me the look, but I just laugh you off because I'm like, yeah, you can't get me out of your ass. Right. But it's a hard one because you and I do this differently. And envy is a strong word, but I watch you in situations where we are all together, not virtually, and I see how you can do this. And I'm like, God, I wish I could do that. I don't want to say I wish I wasn't so kind, but I wish I could just walk away.

SPEAKER_01 10:01

And you have a terrible time with that. I'm sorry you guys can't see me, but I'm laughing because there have been many times that we've been at events that I'm gone. And you back in your pay lot. And I and I am still really, I have to go back and try to bail you.

SPEAKER_03 10:16

Remember one time in three years ago in Texas, I got stuck with some random people. I mean, I've never seen those people since. And you ended up having to do the entire teardown. You packed the car, you did everything, and I'm still stuck. Yeah, you talked to these people who to this day I couldn't tell you their name, but they were telling me like everything from like the birth of their firstborn all the way through. And I was like, Oh, I love it.

SPEAKER_01 10:43

Like, I've grown since then. You have grown since then. And and I'm older than you too. I've gotten tough because I'm just like, I don't care. No, no, no. I shouldn't say that. It's not that I don't care. It's right that I do care, but not to the depth that they think I'm gonna go back to this little phrase that I've used before. And this was a from Bud, my husband, Bud. You gave me more answer than I had questioned for. So when you get to the point where there's more answers than I had, I I can try to cut you off. So right, right, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 11:18

But there are times, because there's many times I give you way more answer than you had questioned for, but you we have relationships. And it's things that I I'm interested in, right? True, true. And you can lovingly, in the middle of it, all go, love you, I gotta go, and we'll reconnect. You know what I mean? It's different. I'm talking about other types of people that you know really bring no value to your life. So here's how to equate this to your business as an owner or a florist. So this could be like a customer who is that constant disgruntled one, the one that is never happy with what they get. But yeah, they keep coming back to order, keep coming back, is disrespectful to your staff, creates chaos around the holidays, always seems to think that they deserve a little bit more, you know, that type of thing. You shouldn't always cater to these people. At some point, if they are more toxic to you and your team, then they are bringing in money, it's not worth it. So mental toughness looks like ending a relationship with a customer that's toxic. It could be ending a toxic relationship with your wholesaler. We had that conversation in one of our shop talks, and it was just so eye-opening for me to hear some of the stories with some of our members and the amount of time they spend reaching out to their rep, just constant and constant and constant and constant. And I'm like, find another one. Yeah, exactly. Find another one, call me, I'll help track it down. I'll call Bill Dorn and say, Is anybody close? Is there anyone near this place? Like, find somebody, like figure it out. Say no to that drama, I guess. Yeah, is what exactly? I love that. The next one is you know, I've been learning this one. You forgive, but you do not reconnect with those people. Yep. Forgiveness is important. Forgiveness is a sign of a big heart. I think it's important in any kind of healing, whether you're spiritual or not spiritual. I think it's part of any journey because when you don't, it just harbors bitterness and it's just not healthy. But you and I both agree on this. Forgiveness does not mean you bring that person back into your life, right and relationship and just like nothing ever happened.

SPEAKER_01 13:57

Can't. Yeah. Sometimes we tend to want to do that. It's like, oh, I want them to know everything's okay. But you you can't because then they're gonna do it again and they're gonna do it again. Right. Right.

SPEAKER_03 14:08

And again, it depends on the circumstance, right? But people with mental fortitude understand the importance of forgiving those who did them wrong, but they also understand whether or not reconnection is a worthwhile decision. Yep. So that's where I think discernment comes in. And so, Florist example, I thought this was a good one. You forgive the former employee who quit during Valentine's Week, but you don't rehire them. Excellent. You thought I was gonna say, and you let them come back. So you're like, nope. Forgiven. I don't hate you. I'm not gonna spend time losing sleep over you, but you're not coming back. Right.

SPEAKER_01 14:50

Because that's horrible what you did. That's unacceptable. And move on, go somewhere else. Right, right.

SPEAKER_03 14:59

You forgive the local shop owner who trash talked to you, but you never collaborate with them again. Those are great. Like those types of things. Forgiveness clears your head and it helps you move on. Yeah. But reconnection is gonna require a lot of trust, I think. All right. The next one. This one, you and I don't struggle with this at all. You do not post your every single move. No, we don't do that. We don't post enough. That is what we get in trouble for. Many people that feel the need to constantly post. Oh, we know this. Over sharing. Right. But we don't know any flower shop owner that has time to do that. So I don't really know that this is mentally strong individuals. Really do the opposite of this. And I would agree. They don't believe in posting their every move. They post occasionally. That's us. Or not that's us. That's us. We post when we get told, you've got to post something. Oh, yeah, I forgot. Right. They're okay. Moving in silence. I loved that. And believe it or not, they feel better about it. So I thought that was really great. Like Florist example, you don't have to post every single hour your day-to-day. Of course, you're not going to post your problem customers. I think the big concept there is you're not going to post your dirty laundry, business laundry online. No. You're not going to talk about negativity. So mentally tough florists are running their business. You're not a constant highlight reel.

SPEAKER_00 16:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:34

Right. You're curating your highlight reel. You understand that silence isn't hiding, it's focusing. The other thing it talks about in that one is people that do that. Most people that do that are struggle with that comparison constantly. You're doing it because you're also looking at everybody else that does it and comparing, well, was my trip better than theirs, or was my dinner better than theirs? And I want to, you know, that kind of thing. The next one, you're okay walking alone. I loved this one. And in my older age, I've gotten better at this. Everybody likes having friends, but it's okay to be alone. Those with mental strength understand the importance and power of solitude. They value quiet evenings. I love me a quiet evening with no one but themselves for company. Mark was out of town for the last two days. I love my husband. You know that. Yes. And it is really, really nice to sometimes when you have your house to yourself. To yourself. No TV on. I love not having a TV on, unless it's on a Hallmark movie. Or you know what I mean? Like something I want it to be on. There's not a news in the background. Cleansing. Oh my gosh. I love that. But here's what I thought it was so interesting. When I put this one in chat, GPT, for a florist, you're okay walking alone. Here was the example. Florist example. You don't have to follow every trend. Have to price like the shop down the street. There you go. Woo-hoo. You don't have to jump into every industry's argument. I love mentored. I know. Toughness means being okay with saying, hey, this is what works for my shop, even if no one else is doing it. Standing alone. And I was like, oh my gosh, this one gives me chills. Yeah, I love that. I thought that was really, really good. You have to do what works for you and not look down the street. Well, why is she selling at $49.99? Like, maybe she's buying her flowers at Walmart. Who knows? Right. Don't worry about her.

SPEAKER_01 19:00

Keep focused on yourself.

SPEAKER_03 19:02

This one you do. And you do this for me because I can't do it. You say no without guilt.

SPEAKER_01 19:10

You know, and that does come with age. And it comes with a lot of business sense. I think as a business owner, we should be able to do that. For us, it's they're like, oh, she needs to do this. We need to speak here. We need to speak there. And and Lori, you are so good at like, oh, good, because you want to do it, right? I want to do it all. And you can't.

SPEAKER_03 19:31

But the capacity and the reality sets in of it doesn't make sense to do it all. Right. Honestly. So we are proverbial pleasers, most of us. Most of us. We want to be liked by all and despised by none. Right. There you go. I mean, that's that's right. Most of us are. But mentally strong people are okay if somebody hates them because they say no, because they realize that's not my problem. Right. Yes. I gave them an answer. You move on. They use it without guilt. They say it without guilt, unfazed by feelings. These are all things that reasons I admire you. This one I can do pretty well.

SPEAKER_01 20:20

Pretty well.

SPEAKER_03 20:21

Yeah. And good. I can think of multiple times you've had to do this for me, which I'm so grateful for because you're doing it for flower click going. I'm yeah, we we love her too. And she is great at that, but she can't.

SPEAKER_01 20:39

We need her here. Or we need her there. Her energy here, not right with right. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 20:45

And and it does help soften it.

SPEAKER_01 20:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 20:48

I hope it helps you a little. It helps me. But I also think it helps them understand, oh yeah, she does have a day job or, you know, whatever. It goes back to like we can't deliver outside of our zone without an extra charge.

unknown 21:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 21:05

And you want to say, oh, sure, we can do it. Yeah. But right, right. No, we cannot discount custom work. Making those last minute changes, like those types of things. So many conversations I hear with, oh God, well, they just wanted this extra and I felt bad. Like Valentine's Day. We can't squeeze in one more. We're done. Sorry. We have been pushing for three weeks now. And now we can Uber it. We've talked about that for an extra whatever. Mentally strong florists understand that every yes does cost time. Every yes costs energy. Every yes affects the quality. Right? So you have to think about those things.

SPEAKER_00 21:54

I like that.

SPEAKER_03 21:56

So number six, you keep The piece by not proving yourself. Now, this one at first, I was like, whatever. I but but I am learning this so much right now. So proving yourself is exhausting. It does feel necessary at times. And it, you know, a my natural inclination used to be just to jump in and argue until somebody I could break them down, especially if it was family, not other people, but get my point across. But now I think in our climate that we're in, what I've realized, it's like I'm learning to go, huh? Interesting point you have.

SPEAKER_01 22:47

And just move on. Yes, because it doesn't affect us personally.

SPEAKER_03 22:53

Right. And you know the conversation isn't going to be quality. Right. Totally. Like if I'm sitting across from you, and you and I are having a good conversation. I want to learn from you. And I want to learn from you. We've got that. Like, oh like you know, you can feel the person if the conversation's gonna go anywhere. Yep. And so it's okay to protect your peace by just going, interesting. And how does that relate to the floorist? Well, how that relates to the florist is you don't have to defend what you post on Facebook. Like if someone's using foam, yeah, somebody makes a comment. Do you know what that does to the environment? Like, I'm I'm not for or against it. I'm just saying, yeah, these are things that I see. Gotcha. Let it go. You just let it go. Yeah. Or just go, okay, thanks for letting me know. Let it go. You don't have to explain your worth to people who think you're too expensive. You know, you could let them know your AIFD, your design skill. You pay your designers based on their level, you know, their master level. Like you can educate them all you want. Right. And then let it go. Because these are facts. Yep. These are facts. Let it go.

SPEAKER_01 24:17

But don't keep going back and forth.

unknown 24:19

Right.

SPEAKER_03 24:19

And the other thing that we're seeing so much on social media is people just randomly posting negative crap. Don't argue with people that have never ordered from you. Don't. They're not even your customers, nor would you ever want them. True. So that's it. That's good. The next one is you adjust but never shrink. We adjust with our families or work or friends. We have to adjust, but you don't shrink back. What does this mean? They don't allow adjustment, which causes them to shy away from who they are. They respect themselves and allow anyone to make them shrink in any capacity. Mentally strong individuals get this. So you make adjustments, but you don't just shrink back, shrivel up.

SPEAKER_01 25:07

Yeah. You have to adjust because of the things that have been said. And sometimes that goes back to the one before it. You just be silent.

SPEAKER_03 25:15

Right. And so for a florist, you adapt, you adjust to seasons, you adjust your staffing, you adjust your designs, but you don't shrink your standards. You don't shrink your quality. You don't shrink your level of customer service just because you have to shrink your staff.

SPEAKER_00 25:32

Oh, for sure. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:34

Or your boundaries or your values. You might change your processes, but not your self-respect. You know, those types of things. Number eight, you don't overreact anymore. It's a hard one.

SPEAKER_01 25:50

I think that it comes with age again.

SPEAKER_00 25:53

I think it does too.

SPEAKER_01 25:54

I think it does too. Because you've changed. I know I have.

SPEAKER_03 25:57

Oh, I've changed so much. I was, oh my gosh. I can think of so many times. Same. As a teen all the way up of overreacting.

SPEAKER_01 26:07

Especially young children. Oh my gosh. Oh as a mama with young kids, you're just oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_03 26:14

Yeah. It's crazy. I r think of when I had my firstborn, and my mother-in-law was sleeping in his room with him because we had a smaller house. There was a twin bed in there and a and a baby bed. And I woke up, he was like a week old, and it had been over three hours. He had slept, and I was nursing every three hours, and it was three and a half hours. And I randomly woke up and he was still sleeping. And you were worried. I ran in there. I freaked out, yelled at my sweet mother-in-law for not waking me up. Get this. Think of the insanity of me. But keep in mind, 25 years old, 24, 25, young, young, too young to be married and having babies. But I'm yelling at her, why did you wake me up? He's gonna starve to death. Because I had read in a book, you have to feed a baby. And you know, in her mind, going, you don't ever wake a sleep.

SPEAKER_01 27:17

Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 27:18

That sweet woman just said, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. You're right, you're right. Let's get him. He's gonna be like she was so perfect. But I think about that and God bless think of that. The age. Oh, yeah. She knew there was no arguing with me. I was crazy postpartum. My child, and and poor Davis was, I'm just sleeping. Leave me alone. Yeah, exactly. So a little bit of an overreaction. Overreact, you know, a bad review pops up. Yeah. Totally freak out. Well, let's first take a breath. A customer complains, someone makes a comment that stings. I think that's the hardest part, even comments design, those type of thing. The thing to look at here, and I posted this in our members' Facebook group. When you get things like that, think about this. Is it a pattern? Are you getting multiple? Or is it just a random isolated event?

SPEAKER_01 28:21

That's the important thing. That's really good to focus on. It's like look and see if this is the first one, or it's the first one in a long, long time, you know.

SPEAKER_03 28:33

Right. We do that in Flower Click. We've overreacted on things and then gone back later and gone, oh, well, really, only three people were worried about this one recipe out of this many, like anyway. Okay, number nine, you heal privately. So this one is a big one. And this one at first I thought, I don't think this is a good one. And then the more I read it, the more I read it, I was like, oh my gosh, it's so true. And it comes with age. And I think of my 2024 season of really, really deep struggles that I was going through. And you were probably the only person I even talked to. And I did choose mostly to heal privately, me and my God. I mean, and I think that is a sign of growth, and I feel like it was healthier. I think as we age, we are much pickier who we share our hearts with. Absolutely. And you we get more and more private. So I think this is true. When adversity strikes, you want a shoulder to cry on, but as we get older, we're like, I don't know about whose shoulder.

SPEAKER_01 30:05

No, absolutely, Lori. That's so true. I think healing privately and within ourselves makes us stronger, right? It's like you're saying, it's that sign of mental toughness for sure. It makes so much tougher when we go through that and get through it, and then you look back and you go, Whew, that was tough. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And I'm exactly I'm okay.

SPEAKER_03 30:29

I'm stronger because right. Well, and you can see and feel your own growth. You can't, which is pretty incredible, but it's hard, not easy. Not not easy for a florist, it's going through a slow season. It hurts. We've been seeing that. Some of our members, not all of them, not all of them. No, I want to say that because we've had some really busy members, but a slow season hurts. A holiday promo that flops hurts that you're super, super excited about, and then it kind of uh, you're like, oh man, I thought that was gonna be good. Burnout is real. A lot of them you suffer privately, but mentally tough shop owners don't start sharing that everywhere and spiral on social media about those, those are the ones you really worry about. You're like, ooh. Exactly, exactly. Or you don't start telling your customers when they walk in, oh, we're having a bad seat. Like, you know, don't don't nobody will fear that. No, they process quietly, they reflect honestly, and then they rebuild intentionally. And I thought basically, your growth happens off camera. I like that.

SPEAKER_00 31:47

They're really good.

SPEAKER_03 31:48

The last one, you no longer fear silence. I used to hate silence. I never liked being in a silent room. I always had noise in the background and that type of thing. I now love silence, unless it's birds chirping or nature. I love quiet. The absence of noise drives a lot of people crazy. And I think a lot of that's because we're scared to be alone with our thoughts and our minds and that can spiral. But mentally strong people don't fear it, they use it as a tool and it helps them to recharge and reflect and maybe get ready for the next day. It can be a really powerful weapon if we use it right. For example, a florist, if you're in on a Sunday and you're not open, a quiet shop day, a slower day at your desk with your inbox or whatever, like we have. Those are those are beautiful days. That's when we're like, oh, I can work on February email marketing today, a pause before the next season starts. Yeah. Like those kind of things. So use your silence to review your numbers, fix a system that's glitching. I don't want to say broken, but then glitching, or start reusing customer service training, sales trainings, or you know, or or rest. Just rest.

SPEAKER_01 33:20

Yes. I think that that is so important because if we don't have that silence, we can't hear who's trying to talk to us quite on. It's an internal thing as well as external. Exactly. And I do know people who can't be in a car without a radio on, they can't be in a room without a television, they can't be anywhere in silence. Yeah, and again, I think a lot of it comes with age, Lori. I mean, there's very few people that I know who can be in a room in quiet all the time. I mean, even for an hour.

SPEAKER_03 33:59

Yeah. Yeah. No, I agree. There's a school teacher on TikTok. I can't remember her name. I can't remember any of that because my brain is slowly dwindling. But you know how the Spotify thing goes out and it shows you how many hours you spent on your playlist and all, and all the kids are posting that. And she teaches high school geography. She was talking about how all of her students were showing her, like, look how many hours I spent on there. And she was doing the math, and she said, these students, these kids are never without noise.

SPEAKER_00 34:43

Ever.

SPEAKER_03 34:44

I mean, hundreds and thousands of hours of music are constant, constant.

SPEAKER_01 34:53

And she's like, that's terrifying. Well, and yeah, that's a whole nother podcast, right? No, it is. I'm not really listening to because that's true.

SPEAKER_03 35:04

That's that's even a whole nother thing, but just the constant noise, like they go to sleep with it and listen to it and wake up and it's still listening to it. And it's just always, always, always, always. So the last sentence I want to say when it comes to not fearing silence is instead of feeling panic about silence, you should take silence to use a strategy. Yeah. Like the silence. What do I what do I want to do in this? And also be okay with maybe I just want to sit. You know, and be still. And that's okay too. Thank you so much for listening to our podcast. We hope you enjoyed spending time with us because we enjoy spending time with you.

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