What Makes You Leery? Trusting Your Gut in Life, Business, and Flowers

Episode 322: What makes you instantly leery of a person or situation - and why does your gut matter more than you think? In this candid and wide-ranging conversation, Vonda, Lori, and Ellie unpack the meaning of being “leery,” from fast-talking salespeople and sketchy orders to AI, customer behavior, and everyday red flags we’ve all learned to recognize.

Inspired by everything from Olympic backstories to Valentine’s Day scams, door-to-door sales, restaurant etiquette, and even Mount Everest, this episode explores how lived experience shapes intuition and why being cautious isn’t a flaw, it’s wisdom.

Along the way, they tie it back to floristry and business: trusting your instincts with customers, orders, employees, technology, and relationships, while still staying open-hearted and kind. Plus, a fun rapid-fire game of Leery or Lovely to test your own gut reactions.

If you’ve ever thought, “Something about this doesn’t sit right,” this episode reminds you: that feeling exists for a reason.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:02

Anyone or anything that comes off as desperate. I can smell desperation. I think most people can smell it a mile away.

SPEAKER_05 0:12

Welcome to the Business and Pleasure of Flowers.

SPEAKER_01 0:14

We're your hosts, Vonda LaFever and Lori Wilson. And we believe that business and fun are a perfect combination. Kinda like us, Vonda.

SPEAKER_03 0:32

Vonda, I hear waves coming from behind you. Is or do you have a sound machine on? Ellie, is that a sound machine?

SPEAKER_04 0:41

Or is that no sound machine here? No sound machine here. So yes, after Ellie and I finished a photo shoot, I escaped to Cabo San Lucas. So I'm here. This is my virtual office in a you know, different space right now. Pretty awesome. It's nice.

SPEAKER_00 1:02

And I'm I think Ellie is gonna ask if you just keep us on for the whole day so we can Yeah, just have the background. Why don't you do a little pan since we're video now? Do a little pan of your see. Oh look at that. Oh.

SPEAKER_03 1:18

How many years have you been going to Cabo?

SPEAKER_04 1:23

This is the 27th year.

SPEAKER_02 1:26

Wow.

SPEAKER_04 1:27

Some of you aren't even that old. I know. I'm not. I'm not. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:32

I need to plug my computer in, ladies. Oh, yeah. Okay, you plug your computer in while we do that. And I have been very, very lucky. I've been able to go a couple of times. And so I have been on that little patio that you're on. Yeah. And I have seen whales. I have seen whales, and it has been life-changing. And they are the most fantastic, gigantic, beautiful things I have ever seen. Yeah. And it's so cool to sit out there and see belt. And so just seeing the whales makes me understand why you go there every year. But it's kind of a family tradition, right? Because Ellie, you grew up going there. Mm-hmm. I did. And so are you gonna go this year at all? I don't know. You say that every year.

SPEAKER_00 2:26

I know. We haven't been in a few years. But yeah, that was always their reward growing up after you get through Christmas and it's so cold in the dead of winter.

SPEAKER_02 2:38

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 2:38

Um, and you escape to Cabo in January.

SPEAKER_04 2:43

This time now it's February, so yeah. It's great.

unknown 2:47

That's great.

SPEAKER_03 2:48

Very blessed. The very first time my husband and I went with you guys. I remember he was all excited. He's like, oh great, we're going on vacation. He walks out to get coffee that morning. You and I are there with our laptop.

SPEAKER_00 3:01

So he's like that year, we could have just came here to Florida and skipped it. Exactly. You were like, wait a minute. But that was February of 2019. So things were happening.

SPEAKER_04 3:20

February of 2020.

SPEAKER_00 3:22

Sorry, yes.

SPEAKER_03 3:23

February of 2020. Yeah. That's crazy. So anyway, anyway. I'm glad you made it. I love that you get to go. But you never miss a beat work-wise. We get her done.

SPEAKER_00 3:33

No, we tell her. We try we try to shun you.

SPEAKER_03 3:37

So anyway. Ellie, thanks for coming. We love up here. We asked you, and usually I have to ask you pretty far in advan in advance.

SPEAKER_00 3:48

But you were like, Yeah, I can I can to be honest, just for future reference, it's almost better if you just ask me. Yeah, quickly. Okay, good to know, Lori. We can do that. I know we're usually scared. Scared to do it. Then it lingers and you open it up.

SPEAKER_04 4:05

Anyway, I I like spontaneous. We'll be more spontaneous.

SPEAKER_03 4:10

That'll be fun. Good to know. You've brought up photo shoot because Ellie, you have a big job right now. You are at Ronda's house. You are dog sitting. You got two puppies behind you right now.

SPEAKER_00 4:23

I do, I do.

SPEAKER_03 4:24

So look, well, can't save there. You are there because before Monda left, you guys did a little, not massive photo shoot, like our big huge summer ones, but you did the Mother's Day photo shoot. You didn't actually had some Mother's Day stuff we had done prior, but you did some more.

SPEAKER_00 4:44

How did it go? It went really well. I'll speak first on that. In previous years, I've been left with more to shoot. Yes. This time she really Bonda really worked overtime nights and weekends. Yeah. Trying to get things in a good place so that we could get them done really quickly. Yeah. So we had we kind of started a new little process where we kind of do a test shoot and get our models in front of the camera, okay, our designs in front of the camera and see how they shoot. Do a little camera test. And then from there, she knows what to iterate on instead of working in real time when we've got the sunlight working against us all day. Yeah. Or we're fighting against the daylight. So we have a little new process. And I think it helped to make make things more efficient, don't you?

SPEAKER_04 5:36

Oh, yeah, absolutely. Because as we know, Lori, and you too, being there, you it's gorgeous. This design is just gorgeous. You put it there and you're like, oh, it looks awful in front of the camera. So that's took away that feeling when we just get there and have to rearrange everything in front of the camera. So it worked really well. So we would do that at night, and then I would work on it while Ellie was doing when it was ready the next morning. So yeah, the process really did.

SPEAKER_00 6:04

Did you have two cameras or one? Just one. But like we would shoot some stuff early, like the night before. Yeah. Didn't matter about the lighting, but at least we know if if it was a good if it had potential or if it needed to be completely reworked. Those were my words that I heard, Lori.

SPEAKER_04 6:22

This has potential.

SPEAKER_03 6:24

Well, that's all you gotta hear out of Ellie's mouth to know whether it's worth saving or not. Yes. Or redoing. Yeah. So I could tell when y'all were getting towards the end when you would end up in our slack for our group one. Do you like this or not? We can't tell anymore.

SPEAKER_00 6:44

Like we were like just and always this time the middle day felt it was a bad day. It was. But the first days and the last days were good. Minus one incident that happened. Well, that was the second. That was the second day. That was the second day. That was the second day, wasn't it? Wait, what was the incident? Vonda, do you want to show us your arm? Oh, I have a band-aid on it. It's okay. Just it's okay. Vonda slit her arm open, cutting a branch outside, cutting the foliage.

SPEAKER_04 7:20

She has had to get some pinus porum. And instead of taking my clip, because I was in a hurry, you know how we are. And I just went and cut it and like, oh crap, that cut my arm. But uh you guys, I will have to say she is not human.

SPEAKER_00 7:35

She's an alien. There was no blood.

SPEAKER_04 7:37

There was absolutely this thing has not, and it was deep. And because Ellie's like, do we need to I lost my lunch?

SPEAKER_00 7:44

I couldn't eat lunch. Oh my gosh. It was a slit open. You got layers of skin, right? Like it needed stitches, but of course she didn't get stitches. I have a band-aid. She just had me throw a band-terfly stitch. Butterfly. Butterfly Bandaid. Butterfly Bandaid. Uh-huh. But like there was no blood at the end.

SPEAKER_02 8:04

It was crazy.

SPEAKER_03 8:05

She did a ligament or something, a muscle. It probably doesn't have anything in it.

SPEAKER_04 8:12

It was the craziest thing because even now, when I changed the bandage up, it's yeah, I had to change the band-aid and there was not a drop of blood.

SPEAKER_00 8:20

It was weird.

SPEAKER_04 8:22

Oh my gosh. Yeah. She is nailing it. That is so And she said it didn't hurt. Maybe she's a vampire. It doesn't. It's still to this. I mean, from that period, it was weird. But you know. I hope you have a tetanus draw. I had one a couple years ago. Okay. The last time she injured herself. Yeah. Last time I stepped on a nail or something, you know. Oh, yeah, that nail went through your face.

unknown 8:50

My God.

SPEAKER_04 8:51

Oh. Anyway. So yes, we're excited. About it.

SPEAKER_03 8:57

Yeah, I saw all the things you put on Trello. It's all beautiful. I'm very excited. I think our flower clip members will be very excited. Yeah. I think so.

unknown 9:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:05

Yeah. We have a tight turnaround. So, but it'll be ready here in a week or so for everybody.

SPEAKER_03 9:11

I know Kimi and her team are excited. They get so excited for new images. Our web team does. Because they're looking at them all day. They're looking at them, having to upload them all the time. Yeah. Anyway. Okay. Did you watch the Olympics? Oh yeah. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. I've been reeling a little bit from that. And I it's kind of what brought on this topic today was the word. So I reached out to both of you and was like, okay, I want to talk about the word leery. What makes you leery of people or like situations? And part of what came about this whole thing was I was scrolling through, you know, my nightly TikTok scroll, which I do every night. It's like my new bedtime stories. But I was obsessed with the Olympics as most of us were. But I get obsessed with the backstory of the person. Yeah. Like I love to hear whether it's an American or Norway, like whatever. If they got a good backstory, I am sucked in. What I don't get is people that don't care about the backstory, like that don't get emotional. You know, if I'm watching the skaters and they have a great skate and then they fall on the ice crying, sobbing because it was the best skate of their life, I'm sobbing with them. But if someone else in the room, for example, maybe allegedly my husband is just staring at the wall, I'm leery of that person. Like, I don't get it. I don't understand people that can't get emotionally infested. I just don't understand these people. So that's what I see. These people, these people, like how are you not just sobbing? I was talking to my daughter last night. We were FaceTiming and we were talking about some of the skaters, and she was going on and on about one of the girls. Amber? Yes. Yeah. And Bailey, my daughter, just bawling because she was so sad about her skate, you know, and she was like, but you know, she has one more. And I feel like and I was like, she's not gonna come back. She's 14th, you know. But I'm like, and then she has me cry, and I'm just like, these are my people. I just need people that are gonna cry with me. And so I'm gonna talk about what makes you leery of people. Do you get invested with these people's lives?

SPEAKER_04 11:56

Let me start first when you said you wanted to do a podcast on Leery. Do you know?

SPEAKER_00 12:00

Yeah, let's back up. Let's back up. I need to define the word, the origin, the spelling.

SPEAKER_03 12:05

Okay, well, here's the Leery means you're guarded, you're suspicious. I'm suspicious of people. I find myself the older I get, the more leery and suspicious I get of people. And it is due to like expectations I have, or due to circumstances or previous circumstances I have had. And right, right. That's basically what it is. We were joking the other day, Ellie, about is it Miri, Leary, you know what what are all these words? But it is Leary. It's because we have had previous knowledge about situations. So you have a person come up to you and say something and a light bulb goes off. And you're like, oh, I've been here before. I'm not back.

SPEAKER_04 13:00

Okay, well, I'm gonna go back to my first thought when you said Leary was Kevin O'Leary. That's what I thought of this morning, too. Like, and he's always I am Leary of Kevin O'Leary. But he's always leary. You think of that, but in a good way, right? He doesn't want to invest in people because they're not worth it or something that he's cautious about. And you know, like his famous line is this is a dog from hell. It's a very bad idea. It howls at the moon, and you should take it out behind the barn and shoot it. You know, those are the things that I think of when you said that. I'm like, oh my God, Kevin O'Leary in that. Because he is very cautious in his investing.

SPEAKER_00 13:42

So we are, in a sense, that's a good analogy for people who can't remember.

SPEAKER_03 13:48

Yeah, yeah, right. So yeah, anyway, yeah, cautious. You're cautious. The definition is guarded, suspicious, uneasy due to realistic expectations. Usually it's because you have previous knowledge about this person or a situation. Right.

SPEAKER_00 14:06

But also I think it's kind of this like foreboding because you don't know the answer. I think that's the key is like you don't know the truth, but you have a gut feeling about it. Yeah. Right.

SPEAKER_03 14:18

Yeah. The other thing I was noticing, like during Valentine Week, I saw this multiple times on like floorest of forest Facebook groups and groups. Holly Habman, one of our dear friends, she even posted was like, Hey, I just got a call for this huge order. Like it was a really big order. They had a credit card, they had everything, and she gave it three order was for, and I can't quite remember exactly what it was, but it was for a lot of money, and it was like lots of different arrangements. And she, I feel really uneasy about this. Anyway, everybody was trying there, like, don't do it, don't do it. It's a stolen credit card, or it's the, you know, like here and people really helpful ended up. She I think it all worked out because she ended up not doing the order, calling back and do it, but like very leery, right? Based on previous knowledge, and like it just didn't sit well. Okay, so I asked you guys to make a list of either people or situations that you're immediately leery of.

SPEAKER_04 15:35

My number one, the salesman at the front door. Oh and they come, they they ring the door and they're standing out there. You're like, what are you doing? Yeah, what are you doing?

SPEAKER_03 15:46

Could it be any salesman of any product? Yeah. Any widget, anything, even Girl Scout cookies. Oh, well, every time we'll get them.

SPEAKER_04 15:57

Yeah, the Girl Scouts, you kind of got it figured out because they do have the boxes of cookies there, right? That's true, that's true. So that's a little different. Or the Boy Scouts also come to our door, but they have their little uniforms on and the dad's down the down the driveway. But the guy who's standing there, that's the one is really every time.

SPEAKER_00 16:22

Every time it's like, I'm gonna add to that same kind of same line is anyone or anything that comes off as desperate. I can smell desperation. I think most people can smell it a mile away and makes me want to back up. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 16:40

Yeah, fast talking people, right? Best thing ever.

unknown 16:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 16:44

This is the best thing ever.

SPEAKER_03 16:45

Like, oh, oh, okay. Since we're doing the door thing, yeah, here's the line that will get you. I just sold this to your neighbor down the street.

SPEAKER_04 16:57

Like, and I'm like, first of all, I don't know my niece.

SPEAKER_03 17:02

It's not a proof of concept. This has no that has no bearing on me. I don't care what they buy. But they'll say that a lot. We just sold our internet service to Joe Blow.

SPEAKER_04 17:14

But they used to do that at the flower shop. We'd have salespeople come in and they'd say, you know, Cam's Hallmark bought this, and you probably want it too. And I'm like, well, yeah, it's it's that comparative, right? You need this because somebody else had it. Always that's totally red flag theory, you know. Yep, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:35

All right, here's mine. And I'm I'm pretty sure you'll agree with me. People who do not acknowledge or acknowledge dogs. Yeah. I just am very leery of people that do not like them. And here's just what recently happened. You know, last weekend we went on a little weekend trip and we brought our dog, Bo, most precious little lamb around. You know, anyway, very dog-friendly community. We would went to every restaurant. Oh, we take dogs. The last restaurant we went to was like an outdoor brewery. We went there for brunch and dogs everywhere. I mean, not everywhere, but that was very, very dog friendly. And they were like, Oh, come on in, da-da-da-da. They the host he sat us down, playing with Bo, sat down, your server will be there in a minute. The server came. She was this young girl. She was very nice to us, but she just seemed annoyed. And usually every time you we go anywhere that as a dog-friendly place, they're like, Oh, do you mind if we could bring him some water? You know, blah, blah, blah. This one, she just like literally looks at him and he's under the table, just like laying there, you know, as dogs do. And she just like just kind of like was annoyed and never said anything good or bad, but it's just the vibes she gave off. It was very weird. She's working in the wrong place. Oh my god. Like, what is going on? Very, very strange. I'm putting you on my Leary notes. Something about you. You're in this place.

SPEAKER_00 19:38

On the Leary list.

SPEAKER_03 19:40

Oh, that was one of mine.

SPEAKER_00 19:42

Okay. All right. Ellie. So I started to make a list and I separated it by like light, funny things, and then like deep items. Okay, that's good. And that was it for my light items. Okay. Everything else is pretty deep. That's great. Go for it.

SPEAKER_04 20:03

Let's go deep. Let's go.

SPEAKER_00 20:04

Okay, let's talk about AI. AI first, everything. So, like the initial habit of people going to AI first. Even to write a text, I I I know when you text me and it's AI or Slack message. Like, I know that it's an AI generated message. Happened, Lori.

SPEAKER_03 20:26

So at what text?

SPEAKER_00 20:28

AI? Like a response, yes. In WhatsApp. I've had it in WhatsApp. Okay. Text basis people like I don't really text with anybody that's like a stranger. So I guess the question is at I guess I'm worried about our brains atrophying and intelligence levels. So yeah. Yeah. I'm just a little worried. I love AI and I think it's great. I just I'm a little worried about the habits that we're right.

SPEAKER_04 21:01

Instead of coming up with something on your own, even to response to email, because you can write it and it says, Do you want me to correct this?

SPEAKER_00 21:07

No. Right. And your brain, I just am worried about our brains and the use of our brains as muscle.

SPEAKER_03 21:18

I'm very worried about that. I'm I think every school teacher's very, very worried about AI, just in cognition skills and thinking about teaching reading language arts. Okay. And part of that curriculum that I taught was doing, you know, we would read books, and then you would do like Socratic seminars where you would sit around and do these reading comprehension and all of these skills that you would use for that. And I'm like, do they even do that type of thing? There's a lot of real Deep thought that goes into that and writing and writing and writing. And is all of that going to be lost?

SPEAKER_00 22:11

Yeah. It's really, really scary. I mean, they say this about every generation because as a millennial, they said this about us, but they have said that like Gen Z is the least intelligent so far. And I can't help but think that AI has a big part of that. Um so I guess I'm not worried about like the robots taking over yet. I'm worried, and I think it's something that each person can be proactive on individually as a habit, just like taking a walk, going to the gym, choosing an apple over chips, right? Use your brain instead of choosing. Right.

SPEAKER_04 22:51

I think that it's very helpful though. Yeah, yeah. But I think AI can really help us in situations that how we have people who write an email and it's like really fast and really like jumbled, and then throw it in AI and say, make this happen because my I'm not feeling very kind right now. 100%. But we weren't built to write emails.

SPEAKER_00 23:13

That's not our purpose in life.

SPEAKER_04 23:14

I agree. Yeah. But yeah, not that for your first response. Don't just dump that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 23:20

Right. You know, it's interesting because I have a Gen Z and he is in his last semester of college, and we've been talking a lot about AI and Chat GPT. And he knows that you can use it for evil and good. And he's, I'm sure, done both. But I was asking him how he's using it right now for this last semester. And he said, how it's really been helping me at the very beginning, he uploads all of his syllabuses for the semester and is like, help me create a schedule. And he uploads his work schedule and then like what he wants his gym schedule to be. And it will shoot out like, here's what your assignments are due for the next two weeks. Here's like it helps him organize that's great brain. And I'm like, yeah, that is how that is how you should use it. And then it was like, you have this due this week. So you should be spending, wake up at seven, do this, this. So that's what he said every day.

SPEAKER_00 24:35

That's how he uses it. I love that. I'm like I think it's great. I mean, if you're using it like an assistant in any way, yes. I think that's wonderful.

SPEAKER_03 24:43

So, what else is on your list? To me, I am always leery of people that are rude to their servers at a restaurant. This happened to me in a group of women before. And I'm sure there's men too, but I I've sat there and then I'm noticed just a person that's never satisfied with the meal they received, and they're maybe condescending with this. You know, we've all been in those moments where it makes everybody else feel uncomfortable. I'm just always leery of those people. Because I'm like, how why, why, why are you treating that person that way? I agree. I don't, I don't I'm cautious of those types of people.

SPEAKER_04 25:27

Vonda, what about you? Well, I think it for people who are taking credit for things that they didn't do.

SPEAKER_02 25:34

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 25:35

You know, I think we've seen that like you didn't do that. What do you you know? And you don't say anything, but it you're like anything else that comes out of their mouth, you're like really leery. It's like one.

SPEAKER_03 25:51

Yeah, that's true. That's true. I find those people don't usually last too long when they're trying to build themselves up. I mean, I don't know. Here's one. I'm leery of those people that want to climb Mount Everest. Really? Yes. Why? They literally have to walk by dead bodies, dead frozen bodies to keep going. And I just don't understand why what is it that makes you think Mount Everest is to be climbed? It is so incredibly dangerous and all of those types of mountains. Like you hear these nightmare stories, and then they get stuck and they can't come down, they can't go up, and people have to wait and get rescued. I just very leery.

SPEAKER_00 26:55

Okay. Yeah, some people are just built for adventure. Yeah, they're wired totally different. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 27:02

I don't know if it's adventure. I just don't know because then other people have to rescue them, and so they put other people's lives at stake. So I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 27:11

But also it employs people, right? Because there's tons of people that they're getting paid to help people up the mountain, the locals.

SPEAKER_04 27:19

Yeah, see, I don't that don't that one doesn't make me leery. I actually know somebody who climbed Mount Kilimajara and it was like, wow. Mount Kilimanjaro is not the frozen tundra. Well, it is at the top. You go through five different seasons.

SPEAKER_03 27:32

Yeah, but the the if you go down the deep dive of Mount Everest and the amount of people that have died and the amount of dead bodies on the way, it just blows my mind as to why you would keep wanting to do that. That makes sense, but that's just me. That's just mine. Got it. And along with that is I don't understand why people want to do the iron iron man thing. Okay. What else you got, Ellie?

SPEAKER_00 28:07

I have smart home everything. So I have everything smart in my home. So thermostat, light bulb, plugs, anything that has Wi-Fi and Bluetooth. I'm even wearing an Aura ring.

SPEAKER_03 28:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:30

But I'm a little concerned about the electromagnetic fields and this constant, like invisible electromagnetic field that we're just basking in all day, every day, and the long-term effects of that. Yeah. So all of that manageable on an app, like deep in your light bulbs. Even the light bulbs. I mean, yeah, Alexa, you got Sonos, you got all of the smart stuff. And I just don't know. Oh, and I just awoke and you just triggered Alexa. Yeah. So yeah. I guess I'm pretty leery of that because we don't know the data on how it affects our brains. Even like sleeping with your phone next to your bed, and like I make sure to turn off my Bluetooth and my cellular, but kind of need at least one thing on in case to get an emergency call or something, you know. So I'm very leery of EMF and also how health conscious our society has become, yet, you know, about health, but not necessarily about when it comes to tech. So I'm going down the P E M F rabbit hole. We're not gonna, we don't have enough time to talk about that. But that's the opposite of EMF, and that's like PMF, P E M F therapy. It's like the same thing as grounding outside, right? And to bring this full circle, negative ions. So when the waves crash on the beach creates negative ions, which is really good for your mental health. Same as taking a hot shower. Those things are very beneficial. Yeah. I should come back so much smarter. Yes. Just relaxed and discharged of all of the bad.

SPEAKER_04 30:28

Very good.

SPEAKER_03 30:29

Anyway, I don't even need all of that data to tell me that sitting by waves makes me feel better. Or a hot shower. I mean, seriously, if you think about that, just think about how we makes us feel.

SPEAKER_00 30:46

And I bet you, this is I am not a doctor, but I bet you there's something with flowers and nature. Same kind of thing. Right? Yeah. Letting off those.

SPEAKER_03 30:59

Yeah. This is on a total tangent, but it has to do with flowers. Back to my TikTok. One of the things that I was obsessed with was there's a group of Buddhist monks. I don't know if either of you followed them, but they walked from Fort Worth to DC recently and they just finished their journey, I think, like three or four days ago. It was a peace walk. There was 15 or 16 of them. And they walked from Fort Worth, Texas, to Washington, DC. And I was following them on TikTok, and it was a really cool thing. One of the things that they were doing is as they reached certain towns, small towns or large towns or whatever towns, there would always be people standing like on the sides of the road to welcome them or wave to them or whatever. And a lot of people would give them flowers. There would be men, children, women, and they would be handing them flowers. But what was interesting is usually they would take the flowers, and these people were always very emotional when they were giving them the flowers. And they would take the flowers and like put their hand on them and say, thank you. And they would walk a little ways down. And then they said, because they were interviewed later, and then they said they would be in prayer, or I don't, I really don't know what Buddhists do. What but they said they would be seeing somebody along the way in the next town who was maybe in a wheelchair or somebody hurting, and they would give them the flowers that were given to them. And then those pure people would just stop because some they had been so thoughtful. And for me, because I'm in this industry, it just was such a reminder of God, flowers are incredibly powerful, such a powerful tool. Like the first person was like, I want to give them flowers. Flowers are so beautiful. I want to give them to the Buddhist monks to show them how much I care. And the Buddhist was like, I want to receive these, I want to give them to someone else. Like, dang, they're so powerful. And then he shared that story. So clearly he knows they're powerful. I don't know. I just thought, isn't that beautiful for our industry to actually see it at work? You know, and we do it every day in this industry. They truly do evoke emotions. That's what people think when they see flowers. It's incredible. So anyway, nothing to do with being leery.

SPEAKER_04 33:57

Well, that's all right, because we gotta wrap it up. So whatever. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 34:02

So anyway, okay. Two little questions. Little game, leery or lovely. A person who starts a sentence with not to be rude, but are you leery of that person or do you think they're lovely? Depends on what they say after. Yeah. Depends on what's next. Oh, I would automatically probably think be leery of them. What about this? A person calls a flower shop and says whatever you think she would want. You seem to always know.

SPEAKER_02 34:33

Lovely. Lovely. Yeah. Lovely. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 34:40

The oversharer. Within the first five minutes, you know every single thing about this person. Very, very, lovely. I knew. I knew his answer. Here's one. The person who always has what you need in their purse. Lovely. Lovely. Lovely. Okay, the last one. A customer that calls and says, What is the cheapest arrangement I can get delivered? Larry. Larry, Larry. Okay. Yeah. We're all on the same page. Thank you, guys. I've seen my little game. Yeah. It's fun. I'll think of another one next month and make it another word. Another word. Another word will pop up in my brain. So yeah.

SPEAKER_04 35:27

And just to circle back, Lori, the reason that people are leery is because they've learned from experiences, right? I mean, that's the wrap-up.

SPEAKER_03 35:37

Yeah. And it's okay. It's okay for us to be leery. It's good.

SPEAKER_00 35:42

It's our gut. It's your guts. And I would I would like to counter one point to that, which I actually have on my list that we didn't get to. I'm leery of anybody who is not open. So that's a huge thing. It was like at our wedding, we talked about it is be open. Be open. I don't I don't think I'm friends with anybody who's doesn't have an open mind to think differently than themselves. It's okay to have your own opinions, thoughts, stances, all of that. But if somebody else isn't like you or you don't have the best meal or you don't have the best travel day, like you have to be open. And I think that's a good way to live. And so, to your point, kind of counterpoint, if somebody wants to climb Mount Ephrist and they have their own personal reasons that are strong in their belief for why, yes, I'm okay with that because I am an open person to what they want or what they feel. So it's okay to be leery. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. Right.

SPEAKER_03 36:45

I think being open and being leery, I can be leery of wanting to be friends with that person, but I can be open. I don't think they should be in prison. But I'm leery of wanting to follow them up Mount Tempest. Sure. Or help them on their journey. Or help them on their journey because I think it's because you don't believe. Right, right. But no. My gosh, everybody should read the book Mindset, right? Because it's about fixed or open. We we do need to be open. It's right here. Yes, it is, because Vonda and I've talked about it many times. You do have to have an open mind, but we also be cautious.

SPEAKER_00 37:28

But it's okay to be Kevin O'Leary.

SPEAKER_03 37:31

There you go. There we go.

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