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Tour de France Femmes Stage 9 Recap and Final Analysis From The Entire Race
Welcome to the Tour de France Femmes Podcast, from the producers of "The Time-Crunched Cyclist Podcast"
CTS publishes daily Tour de France Femmes podcasts with Coaches Adam Pulford and Renee Eastman. They recap the stages, but the unique aspect of these podcasts will be coaching insights about how athletes prepare for the demands showcased in that day's stage.
STAGE 9 PODCAST OVERVIEW
Stage 9 of the 2025 Tour de France Femmes avec Zwift was the finale of the entire race, and Coaches Renee Eastman and Adam Pulford recap the action from the stage as well as highlights from the week. They also showcase several athletes who had breakout performances or MVP rides, and discuss Alison Jackson's race day data from yesterday's Queen Stage.
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Renee Eastman is a CTS Premier Level Coach and has been coaching with the company for more than 20 years. She has been a professional bike fitter for 15 years and was one of the first fitters to use the Retül bike fit system. She has a master's degree in exercise science, has worked for USA Cycling, and is a 6-time Masters National Champion.
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Welcome to the final day of the special edition episodes of the Tour de France Femme AVEC Zwift. Here on the Time Crunch Cyclist Podcast, I'm your host, coach Adam Pulford, and with me here today, as well as all week, is my co-host, rene Eastman. Hi, rene.
Speaker 2:Adam, great to see you again. Good morning everybody. Hold on to your hats.
Speaker 1:Hold on to the hat. I don't even have a hat today, which is astonishing. But wow, what a stage and no spoiler alerts here. But before we get into the stage recap, let's visit the correction corner here with Renee, because what's cool is what we're doing. We're putting everything out there. What's cool is what we're doing and we're putting everything out there, and it's so fast that we don't always have the time to fact check each other. But also we're learning as we go. So, renee, what did we learn from yesterday in the past couple stages? What should we be corrected on?
Speaker 2:I was totally wrong yesterday about the first French winner of the Tour de France in 40 years when I said that about PFP taking the jersey yesterday. Cathy Marcel, of course, won the women's tour in 1990. But in all fairness, there was no press about it. It wasn't on TV. Of course, I know the history of women's cycling. I started racing in 1990. But at that point the only person we were talking about was Greg LeMond, who won in 1990. Anyway, I apologize. I'm embarrassed that I said that incorrectly. I also wanted to update a little tidbit. You said I'd been listening to the Wheel Talk podcast. If you guys want the Rider Diary stuff, a lot more interviews than just the podium winners, it's a pretty good show. Sarah Gigante does the Rider Diary nearly every day on that and she actually said the team plan yesterday was not for Kim to work for Sarah.
Speaker 2:Kim chose to do that on her own and Sarah was just like almost in tears, like my team is so awesome and Kim sacrificed the Jersey for me. Anyway, I just thought I'd correct myself on that, because I assumed it was the team plan.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I assume that as well. That's a great little correction corner. Well, renee, anything else to add in on the stuff that we missed and the stuff that we're learning?
Speaker 2:I'm sure there is, but let's move on to the stage.
Speaker 1:It's true. Okay, let's move on to the stage. I think for me, I mean, yesterday's stage was probably my favorite. I was waiting for something to occur, which finally did today. But again, no spoilers. Take the reins, tell us what happened.
Speaker 2:Well, we're teasing this big time because this race did not disappoint. It was the final stage in the Alps 124 kilometers, 2,800 meters of climbing American, that is 77 miles, 9,000 feet. So tough, not as tough as yesterday, but way tougher than I expected. The big climb of the day was in the middle, the Jouppon, and then it finished with kind of a long uphill drag, much more of a climb than I thought it was going to be. My when to watch tip for the day from kilometer zero. We get coverage from the start in this race, lights off from the start. I, my text to Adam was just a row of fire emojis, because it was, it was, it was lit. Um, now moving on to the stage.
Speaker 2:Just, you know, kind of the as we were getting rolling out, chloe Dygart did not start If anybody saw on the socials her at the finish line. She had an incredibly awesome and rough day. She was last finisher to make the time cut something like 15 seconds. And it's not that Chloe had a bad day. Chloe was drilling it, going into the base of the climb. She was with the front group at the base of the climb and lost 45 minutes on that climb.
Speaker 2:Chloe had a really big injury. A few years ago she sliced her quad open going for the win at the World Time Child Championships. It still bothers her to this day. She was clutching her leg. It's pretty dramatic. In fact, we saw a lot of tears at the end of yesterday tears of joy, tears of fatigue. And you know, I think it's nice that the women can show emotion. And you know, the thing that gets me as well is that like they're not crying because the race is too hard, they're crying because they go all in. Like Chloe, all in full send, emptied her tank at the bottom of the climb and just barely made it to the top. So you know, go women's racing, full send.
Speaker 1:Full send.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all right.
Speaker 1:There was a quote today at the end of the stage by someone that said now I just can't move anymore, so it's hard but also I think that was Pauline. Yeah, yeah, exactly, but like I, said, commitment has consequences, and they're both beautiful consequences. And, oh my God, what just happened to me? Why did I make that choice?
Speaker 2:Consequences yeah, and in part the women's races are shorter A lot of stages in the three four-hour range, so they're intense. More full gas, less long. Let the brake roll off a little bit, more full gas and then this race. Nine stages instead of 21,. No off days.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so the IFs and the relative TSSs could be higher, right, more animated racing, because there's just, you know, it's shorter, there's less stages.
Speaker 2:So could be, in theory, more exciting. From the flag drop green jersey, lorena Wiebes is off the front, followed soon by another couple attacks from SDWorks. At one point, like the first break was three SDWorks and I forgot who else you know, somebody from Little Trek, I think, and it was just going and going and going. It's clear from what was going on sd works they wanted something to happen and they did anna vanderbring and got off the front. Uh, just before the first climb um, and started building up a gap, um, she was out there something like 60 kilometers and so all that action at the front. Over the first climb that was about 30 kilometers in, there were 15 people left in the race. Most of the GC leaders were either isolated or had one teammate and we were like game on Because the group briefly came back together like the peloton, briefly came back to the leaders at the after the descent off the first climb.
Speaker 2:But it's, it exploded as soon as they hit the big climb the day, the jupon um. At the base of the jupppon, unfortunately, kerbal and Cassia had a little slide out on a corner. Cassia got up right away. Zip Zap got right back to the pack, kerbal did not. I think it was just that few more seconds that she was on the ground. So she was in for a chase today and it was just they weren't going that fast. I think Kerbal's front wheel just hit the white paint and she slipped out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it looked like a slip out. Yeah, and one of Kerbal's teammates went down as well. Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and her teammate did a lot of work to help limit the losses. But we'll get to the end results here pretty soon. By the top of the Jouplan, vanderbregen still off the front by a little bit under a minute in front of the group, and it was a pretty select group of very few people left at at the top of the jupon pauline demi, cassia rolchek, the uae rider from uae gigante and, uh, the only one with a teammate was, uh, juliet laboose and oh, uh ye, fisher black. Uh, she was also in the group. She had a great ride today.
Speaker 2:As expected, cassia Demme went to the front and put pressure on Gigante. No big surprise there. We expected that. I just expected it to be more teamwork rather than just individuals. There was, you know, I did not expect it to be what is it? Five or seven people left at the front of the race at that time. So Gigante was under pressure on the descent. She did lose some time. It was a. The end of the descent was like 10% grade. She was keeping them in sight until it got to the really fast. So she was behind the group. Vanderbregen was still a little bit ahead, but they brought Vanderbregen back by the time they hit the final categorized climb of the day, vanderbregen out the back pretty quick of that group. She still held on to pretty decent placing but she didn't hold on to that GC group at all. So we've got the group with the GC favorites Gigante chasing behind, everybody else way behind. That was an unfortunate part of the coverage.
Speaker 2:We didn't really get to see too much of what was going on beyond the top group. There. They would show Shara and then they would show Demi and PFP's group and stuff. After that, you know, they just kind of stayed status quo. Juliet Laboue, teammate of the day, was just pulling at the front. She did a lot of work for demi. Um, they just kind of marked each other until about six kilometers to go it. The final drag was much more climbing than I had expected it to be. It looked like a really annoying climb, not 8% grade like oh, we're climbing, but just enough climb to be like, oh, this is hard. Anyway, demi does a little bit of a dig, pfp counters, sails away in front of the group through a sea of cheers, screaming Pauline, pauline, pauline, and gets to ride solo to the wind last six kilometers. Winds in yellow. Adam was right. Once again, it was his pick. He predicted that she would show her stuff on the on the finish line today and she did um, I mean she's she's a killer.
Speaker 1:Like like yellow's not good enough. It's kind of like tate, like in the the last circuits, like they're bike racers, they just want to go for it and yeah, and that move was perfectly timed too. Like demi did a dig, everybody looked at each other and pauline's like here we go yeah, absolutely so.
Speaker 2:Um, in in the small group behind it was uh demi, uh, cassia and fisher black sprinting it out. Uh, demi in second, cass, Cassian. Third, Fisher Black in fourth, Warchek, then LeBou and then, you know, Sarah did a fantastic job all day long. She did get dropped from the front group but she chased on her own for the last 40K, which would have put her in seventh on the stage and, I think, seventh overall, sixth overall for the final. So you know that was great. So you know the GC shakeups are. Let me I got to get my notes. Pauline no surprise that she held on to the yellow jersey. Demi moved up to second. Kasia moved up to third. So that podium no surprise. Three strongest ladies in the race. Very deserving podium. Dominika Wolczak, from UAE, moved up to fourth. Nia Fisher-Black moved up to fifth. Adam, two days ago she was sitting in 22nd spot. She crashed on, I believe, stage three.
Speaker 1:I was going to say she had a bad crash early on, right?
Speaker 2:it wasn't bad, it was mistimed she crashed I believe on a descent.
Speaker 2:She was riding a shimano neutral bike on the descent and just looked like squirrely as all get out. She had a poor bike fit that day. Um, the bike was like way too big for her and she was going all over the place. Anyway, she's a ride of the day for me. Last two days she was third. Yesterday she rides for Little Trek.
Speaker 2:We haven't talked about her too much but she used to ride on Demi's and Kepecky's SD Works team. She went over to Little Trek to be the GC leader. She came into this race as the GC leader and she's clearly very, very strong, finished up with the elite of the elite. Today Just had a bad start of the race, my bad luck of the day, kerbal. She never got back after that crash. She slipped down to eighth in GC, so that's a little sad for that.
Speaker 2:Before we, you know, jump off the race coverage, though I got a little complaint Because I think Sarah did such an awesome job and if you follow the sport you know how hard that she has worked on her descending and she's getting so much hate on the socials about it and we've talked about it as uh, the same way we talk about everybody's strengths and limiters. Like Cassie, is not as good a climber as Demi. Just traditionally PFP wasn't as good of a climber as Demi. Before the summer she worked on it and PFP is at the top of her game. She's been a pro for a long time, champion. She knows how to do it. Sarah is 24 years old. She had lost most of last year due to injury and iliac artery surgery. She before this year was never thought of as a GT contender. She was thought of as a climber only and she has worked on her descending. And I'm going to criticize Peacock for bringing in Phil because unfortunately Phil, as great as he is and legendary as he is, he doesn't follow women's racing and he said today she should really get a coach and work on her descending. Well, guess what she has? And if you listen to her rider diaries, she reconned every single descent. She did a multiple times. She has hired a coach. She was getting coaching on the road from her teammate the other day. So you know, applaud her for how far she's come already in what she's done. You know she finished second at the zero this year. Um and and or is it third? She's on the podium and won both mountain stages and she's turning into a GC threat. Her gap on descending is it's gotten so much better. So that's just like stop the internet hate, stop the commentary hate.
Speaker 2:You know, just being able to like appreciate people's strengths and limiters, and that's what we're. That's why we're talking about it, because it is a strategy. Point Demi, in in Cassia today, I saw them chit chatting at the back of the group right before they went over the top of the shoe plan Cause they are like let's rip, let's work together and we can both move up on the podium. And that strategy, just like Sarah's a better climber than they let's work together and we can both move up on the podium. And that strategy, just like Sarah's a better climber than they are. So her strategy yesterday is I'm going to get as much time as I can today because you know so that's why we talk about Sarah's descending. It's the same way that we talk about other people's. You know strengths and limiters.
Speaker 1:And I think too. I mean I made mention, you know, when Kim crashed. Let's get ahead of the social media shaming. I mean there is this podcast, goes out on social media. There's just like you know, work is done in a remote based setting and we spread the word on social media, so it's going to be there. But I mean the shaming, the hate, like use these stories, use this information to launch yourself into learning more about somebody. And Renee and I were talking.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of comments about like biomechanics, right, bike fits and weird fits, and Pauline looks like a mountain biker, bow legged or what I mean, all this crap. And it's like well, clearly it worked for her. So maybe you just learn more about like where that comes from, like the history. Why would she look like a mountain biker? Oh, she is a mountain biker. Oh, she's the world champion, malta times over oh, she's Olympic champion. So it's like observe, don't judge. It's like people watching. People watching is fantastic. You can just sit there and wow, this is fascinating, right, but in the way people move, I think for me it's like I'll watch somebody ride here. Maybe the world doesn't know as much about the women's peloton, all this kind of stuff. Probably a combination of all this, but just check yourself, that's all.
Speaker 2:All right. Wrapping up on the race as expected, no change in the points jersey. Weebis wins. That that's fantastic. For her First time she's done it. She deserves it. She is the best sprinter in the women's peloton. Shabby retained the mountains jersey. I'm pretty sure Ninkavika retained the white.
Speaker 2:At the recording the results aren't updated and I'm simul-ly viewing my screens Squibbin's super combative for the race. So that means most aggressive rider for the race. So that's awesome. So we talk a lot about you know the best. We've talked a lot about PFP and Cassia and you know all the stars, and rightly so, because they're awesome. So I wanted to just like pull out a name that I hadn't talked about yet of a rider who I think is awesome and like hey, watch this rider because we didn't talk about her all week. Hey, watch this rider because we didn't talk about her all week. Imogen Wolfe from Team Visma Lisa Bike. She is a British pro, she is 19 years old and she's a key lead-out rider for Marion Voss. She is fast, she is skilled and in a couple years, when Voss retires, I expect the team to be leaving her out. I mean, can you imagine having Voss behind you as you're trying to lead her out, her coaching and guiding you.
Speaker 1:Best coach on the bike right there yeah.
Speaker 2:So that's my unsung hero of the race. You have one, Adam.
Speaker 1:I do, yeah, and I had something planned for our unsung heroes and I tried to uh, queued up with AJ and I was chatting with her. She was on the team bus trying not to scrape the like city walls as they were coming into where. Wherever they stayed, and they got it. Everybody had a um, a long transport last night and they didn't get into like 11. So as I was texting her, I was like could you get a video with one of your Swan ears, the helpers of your team, Because they're the unsung heroes.
Speaker 1:You know, the stars are the riders, Sure, Uh, you know they're out there, we're watching them. But like what it takes to get the rider to the finish or to the finish line, but also to the start line every day and cooking for them, massaging, getting bottles prepped and all this kind of stuff. The unsung heroes, uh, the Swan years. They do such incredible work in a lot of these riders They'll sorry, A lot of the riders will work with Swan years over and over, and Swan years will maybe go from team to team, but if you're lucky enough, you get to work with swan years for years and that's a special thing. And so to all the swan years out there the unsung heroes, because the work that you do is thankless to the fans and in the media coverage, but the riders. You can't replace a swanier. It's hard.
Speaker 2:That's a great choice, Adam.
Speaker 1:So, anyway, uh, because of the late night and because of the start and everything, uh, aj did not get the video with a swanier, um, but maybe that'll be later on something else that we do.
Speaker 2:So, as we, you know, wrap up our thoughts, thoughts on the on the race and the summary here pfp winning in france. You know she was, I called her the darling of france day one, and boy is she now awesome. Just you know, the, the country is electric. Now it's, it's. And I was thinking, we know Voss is the GOAT, right, but what is PFP If you can win across cyclocross mountain bike gravel, win the Olympics and then, in the same year, win Paris-Roubaix and the Tour de France? Not even Polka Char can do that. I think she's the apex predator of the peloton Comes in strikes for her kill, goes back to her lair rests and recovers for her next execution, because she doesn't like. When she comes, she comes full on, but, like this year, she hadn't raced since spring.
Speaker 1:She was quietly plotting her working training, plotting yeah, and I mean, you know, chatting amongst us, uh, coaches and friends and things, when pauline said that she was going to do, uh, do the tour de france, she wanted to win it. Uh had a good friend. I was like she'll win it and he's like no way. And he's, you know, mountain biker and kind of knows her as a mountain biker. Um, but just knowing her history and I'm like how focused she is like yeah, so yeah, apex predator, probably. I've I've said for years as well that she's my spirit animal, so uh just channel your inner Pauline and I ask, uh.
Speaker 1:I ask um, uh, my juniors, when I'm working with them, it's like who do you picture yourself when you're descending or climbing, or something like this? And you know a lot. A lot of the boys say Tade, some of the girls, uh, you know it used to be, um, be Mariana Voss or something like this, but now it's, I think it is on the road. Anyway it's going to be Pauline. I think Back to Pauline Because, again, she has been dominant and she's only 33. Mariana Voss is 38. So of 260 wins that Mariana Voss has, I don't know where Pauline's at on that, but you know she's got five years to keep on winning and doing her thing.
Speaker 2:but or one and done, or one and done.
Speaker 1:Who knows, maybe that's what.
Speaker 2:I do Win the Olympics last year, win the Tour de France this year, like what's left? I mean, she could, yeah, she could. And anyway, one of the things that I do after the stages and you do because you texted me in our editor, ruddy, right after the stage, as soon as you saw it oh, it's Allie's train peak stuff from yesterday. We nerd out on those numbers and like, wow, look at that. So I think our listeners do too. So, um, let's talk about the queen stage a little bit, and a little bit about, like, how big of a day it was for alley yeah, yeah, yeah, queen stage.
Speaker 1:So this is, uh, two stages ago and um big stage, big stage for anybody, and I think too you got to realize the groupetto can sometimes be on the Tour de France after a stage like this, depending on how fast the GC riders are going.
Speaker 2:And a quick reminder for everybody who didn't listen yesterday or is not paying attention to the race. It was a 70-odd mile race with 11,000 feet of climbing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, which is a lot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a lot.
Speaker 1:Which is a lot. So in that way I mean you kind of for a rider like AJ again not a GC contender team captain, support rider on stages. Stage like this is she might have a couple duties very early on to position a rider and then after that it's like get to the finish right so you can do your job the next day. So huge day for a rider like her. Tss on the day was around 322. The kilojoule expenditure was 3,375 and absolutely huge day. She was right around three Watts per kilo for the entire stage, which I think it was was three and a half hours or four hours.
Speaker 2:It was four, 45.
Speaker 1:Oh sorry, yeah, yeah, the win. The winners were right around four four, four, yeah, but I mean three Watts per kilo for almost five hours, man, and you know massive day and I was texting with her afterwards and lots of jokes still in, you know good spirits and things like this.
Speaker 2:Uh, but those are some huge numbers. On eight days deep, your best hour effort was around three watts per kilo. You would be a pretty good weekend warrior, recreational or somewhat serious cyclist, capable of doing like a six-hour century, I'd say. So that's that century rider riding as hard as they can for four hours and 45 minutes, which you can't do. But just to try to put it in context, like you can't do that. And she wasn't, you know, at the front either. So there was a Speaking of Ali's Killajules 3000,. I saw a clip on the reels. I sent it to you. Allie was not going as hard on the climb because she was in the group pedo as everybody else. Somebody handed her a baguette. She's, like you know, riding with the baguette and yucking up the crowd. I thought it was pretty funny.
Speaker 2:But speaking of the final climb, I did, I nerded out a little bit. I went into Strava. I looked up some stuff on the final climb from yesterday. So this is the Col de Madeleine. It was about 18 kilometers long, 8% grade, really tough climb. Sarah Gigante does have the qom on it. She finished second yesterday.
Speaker 2:Um, pauline did not upload her strava. She doesn't upload her strava. Um, no, none of the ladies I searched actually have power data. They only have kind of like the estimated power data. But I nerded out, I got into calculations. Vam is vertical ascent meters per hour. It's just how many meters of elevation you gain per hour. You can do some math to try to figure out how many watts per kilo somebody does to achieve a certain VAM on a certain grade. We're not going to go into that right now because that is way too nerdy.
Speaker 2:But at Sarah's 102 approximately, that would have put her, I estimate, around 4.6 watts per kilo. We don't know Sarah's weight exactly. We don't know PFP's weight exactly. They are similar height, 5'5". They can't be that far different in weight. So I then estimated Pauline was 145 ahead that she would have had to done around 4.75 watts per kilo to do that. And in watts for these ladies you know again, these are estimates because I don't know their weights you know probably around 230, 240 for Sarah, maybe around 250 for Pauline.
Speaker 2:Now, now I know there's some master guy out there that's like yeah, I got my FTP at over 200 or whatever. Like I said, I don't know how much these ladies weigh, but it cannot be over like 52 kilos, like 115 pounds. So kind of put that into perspective because watts per unit of weight matter. Think of it as like a big 18-wheeler truck. That truck is really heavy and it takes a ton of horsepower or a ton of watts to move that. So the heavier the object, the more horsepower, the more watts you need to move it. If you are light like my little Ford Focus, you don't need much horsepower to move it forward. So the numbers don't sound as impressive as when we talk about the guys who have FTPs at 450 watts. But just to put it in perspective, they're very small people compared to men. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's it, and I think you just have to check yourself what sounds impressive, what doesn't right. Big numbers oh, everybody loves big numbers, but it's all relative and I'd say the top women are usually around five watts per kilo for longer climbs, 5.5 for shorter climbs. And that's massive, absolutely massive. And if you run the numbers on your power to weight back home for a 20-minute hill climb, multiply it by 5.5, and then you'll come up with the relative, uh, perceived, effort of what that would be for you. So right.
Speaker 2:Um, I wanted to put the put the times into perspective too for everybody. Um little fun fact sarah is also now fourth overall men and women. You're probably a couple of professional men ahead of her on strava on the the Madeline. Yeah, on the Madeline from yesterday. And you know what could the average guy do? Let's take a Masters racer. Let's say a pretty good Masters racer four watts per kilo. Four watts per kilo, if you want to put it into like some context. You could potentially win Masters Nationals with four watts per kilo.
Speaker 2:I did um, you could um it would have to be a little higher, I think but, yes, okay, fair for a woman, for a woman, um, leadville, you could potentially finish sub nine, so let's say it's very serious. Masters racer, um, you probably would have been about 10 minutes, 15 minutes behind, um, considering, uh, we plopped you at the bottom of the climb, fresh and you just went for it. Because these numbers, the 4.6, 4.75, you got to keep in mind there's, they are on stage eight, fatigue. This climb was at the end of an 11,000-foot climbing day fatigue and it actually went up to altitude a little bit. You know, 5,000 feet, you lose what? 5%, 7% power at altitude. But I'm just giving you guys a run and start. We're going to let you go fresh, run and start. We're going to let you go fresh. That six-hour century rider, three watt per kilo, you would have been about 30 minutes, 35 minutes behind Sarah and Pauline yesterday, pokachar, fresh, maybe about 15 minutes ahead of them. The men, definitely. You know higher Pogachars reported threshold around 6.6 watts per kilo.
Speaker 1:That's pretty high. Yeah, that's pretty high, yeah. And I think, like again having these conversations of the time, the duration, the power to weight ratio, to put the impressiveness in context, because they are flying, even though maybe they're pushing 280 going up some of these hills, relatively speaking, it's a massive effort and most people listening to this podcast would get dropped self-included.
Speaker 2:One last fun fact before we wrap on this, because I was in my Strava deep dive yesterday and we know how fast Kim LaCourte ripped that descent when she caught the group the other day she was 30 seconds behind the leaders at the top of a climb and she caught up that by the finish. She does have the Strava QOM for that segment, tied with Marie Lanais. I just thought that was funny because I we knew that she would have had to have been the fastest on this end to, to, to catch up. And just for all the the people complaining about Sarah Gigante's descending she's top 10 on the Strava for the descent. Like, okay, she's not, she's not Cassia, but you can't, you probably can't keep up with her. Well, some people can, but you know what I mean. Like she's still very good yeah.
Speaker 1:That's good. That's good to point out. I'm glad you pointed that out on the on that downhill segment, yeah.
Speaker 2:So, Adam, this is it. We have been, uh on a mission this week. It's been a lot of fun, Um. I hope the listeners have enjoyed what we we've done. I've certainly enjoyed it.
Speaker 1:This is what I'm interested in Women's racing and nerding out on coaching stuff you for like, like putting the effort toward it, um and it who knows where it goes from here. But I think here's the other uh, uh, relatable and maybe like coaching tip through all of this during this time, like, like I mentioned, family in town, uh, still writing programs, coaching people, and I've got an international trip coming up and if, if I were to know everything and in the lack of time going into this, I would have probably said no but to to go through the what's that I said.
Speaker 2:I'm glad you didn't.
Speaker 1:Because I I like literally, uh, haven't been this busy in in quite some time. In in, uh, you know I've been doing like 75 minute rides and feeling good about that at like every other day, like extremely time crunch for me right now. So for those like scraping on six to eight hours a week and you're feeling like totally, uh, oh my gosh, I'm all over the place Like I, I totally feel you, that's going to. That was me last week, this coming week and I might ride next week. Adam, I haven't ridden since last Sunday following along with it Like it's. I think we we did something pretty special this week and it was all Renee's idea. I just kind of showed up and and helped where I could and and uh, yeah, thank you all for listening, thank you for tuning in and, if you want to hear this again, we will get to better organized and do something into the future or maybe something with other races. Uh, just you know, let us know.
Speaker 1:Train rightcom backslash podcast. Click on ask a training question. You can submit a comment. We had a comment there from Peter a couple of days ago. I didn't mention this. He said thanks for talking about tart cherry juice and how the implications of taking it versus not taking it and everything like that. So the feedback is awesome. Keep it coming, put it in the comment section, call Renee, let her know what's up. But yeah, thank you all for listening and being a part of this, because it's a wild trip. It's a wild ride, it's a lot of work, but I'm glad we did it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and if we got a few more fans interested in women's racing, then I've achieved my goal. And, on the other hand, if some of you out there who are already fans of women's racing learned a little coaching knowledge, all the better.
Speaker 1:That's it.
Speaker 2:That's it.
Speaker 1:That is it All right, renee, we will leave it there with an excellent mic drop from you and to our audience members. You'll hear more of the Time Crunch Cyclists coming back into your feeds starting next week. So if you had all you can have of me and Renee talking about women's bike racing, don't worry, we'll get into the intervals and the physiology and the other stuff that we talk about there starting next week again. So thanks again to everybody and thank you, Renee.
Speaker 2:Ciao.