Freedom Focus Photography - previously the Hair of the Dog Podcast

Managing Life and Business with Kim Hartz

April 19, 2022 Nicole Begley, Kim Hartz Episode 140
Freedom Focus Photography - previously the Hair of the Dog Podcast
Managing Life and Business with Kim Hartz
Show Notes Transcript

140 - Chances are, you have a lot on your plate. Maybe you're running a business, or working in a full-time job. You might be parenting small humans or be the primary caretaker of pets. Or maybe—bless you, dear listener—you're doing all of the above.

So how do you keep all those balls in the air, without losing track of things or feeling overwhelmed? That's what my conversation is about this week with Kim Hartz, photographer extraordinaire, Academy and Elevate coach, wife and busy mother of three.   

What To Listen For:

  • Why we're feeling nostalgic for the early-COVID days
  • How Kim maps out her year, to keep things on track
  • What you can expect to pay for outsourced editing work
  • The magical words to use when guiding your clients
  • And a challenge for you, from Nicole—do it this week!

Regardless of your specific responsibilities, you'll appreciate this week's real-talk and life-management recommendations!  

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HartzToday on the hair of the dog podcast.

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I'm talking with my friend and academy and elevate coach Kim

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Hartz, and we are talking about managing well,

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all of the things.

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If you are someone that is pretty busy running around,

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managing a business,

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maybe managing a full-time job,

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managing dogs,

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managing humans,

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managing a household,

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managing the 8,000

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things that most of us are managing on any given day.

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Well, this one's for you.

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Stay tuned.

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Welcome to the hair of the dog podcast.

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If you're a pet photographer,

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ready to make more money and start living a life by

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your design,

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you've come to the right place.

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And now your host pet photographer,

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travel addict,

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chocolate martini connoisseur,

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Nicole Begley.

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Hey everybody,

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Nicole here from hair of the dog podcast.

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And welcome back today.

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We have a great guest with us.

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None other than Kim Hartz from Kim Hartz photography down in

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Houston, Texas.

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Kim is also a coach in the hair of the dog

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academy and then the hair of the dog elevate program.

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And we love Kim around these parts.

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And she's also been on the podcast two times already.

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I'm episode,

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15 way back in the beginning,

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talking about client inquiries and then episode 97 about getting started

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with off-camera flash.

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Woo. Hey Kim.

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Welcome back for your hat trick podcasts.

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Third. Time's a charm.

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I love it.

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Thanks for having me.

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Of course,

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of course.

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So, yeah.

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So for people that don't know you maybe do you want

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to give them the quick high level background of your business

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and how your photography journey has been?

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Sure. So I opened my studio back in 2010,

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starting with general portraiture.

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I kind of did it all.

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Cause that's what I was kind of told you had to

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do in order to be successful.

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About six months in,

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I figured out I didn't like a lot of different types

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of photography I was doing.

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Like I photographed seniors.

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I did weddings.

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I thought I was doing Weddings.

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I didn't know you did weddings.

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Very handful every minute of it.

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So yeah,

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I didn't do many,

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But, and then I thought I was going to be a

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good war photographer.

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That was where I was going with my work.

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And no didn't really like that and realized I really loved

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pets or animals and had just gotten a golden retriever and

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was photographing her all the time.

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So about six months in,

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I decided I'm going to completely change what I'm doing and

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become a pet photographer,

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which was not a thing at the time.

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Really. I mean,

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there were like four people in Houston doing it,

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right. Only one other was doing studio.

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So I was like,

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well, I want to do studio photography and I wanna do

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pet photography.

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So I completely changed everything up and went for it.

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you know,

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12 years later.

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Right, right,

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right. And you did new newborns for a long time too.

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Right? I started doing just pets at six months.

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Like when I kind of rebranded my business and then I

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realized all my friends were getting married and having babies and

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I didn't really want to miss that train.

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So I educated myself heavily on newborn photography because you can't

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just Write It.

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And I did that for a long time and photograph pets

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and babies together.

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That was a,

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and I will still do it for good clients referrals,

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but I don't advertise the newborns anymore.

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Okay. Newborns are exhausting.

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I, yeah,

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that was,

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yeah. I never did a wedding in my life,

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but I did do newborns for a hot minute.

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whoa, no,

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no, this is not for me.

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I got to the point where I would kind of dread

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those sessions.

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Cause they were like three hours long.

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Right. You have to make small talk,

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which I can do,

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but it gets,

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it just gets exhausting.

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Yeah. You know,

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as much as I love those kilos babies,

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I'm I'm good now.

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So I took them off my website and I'm now just

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pets. I didn't realize that.

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How long ago did you do that?

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Maybe last year.

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It hasn't been that long,

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but like I said,

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we'll do it.

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Yeah, yeah,

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yeah. Right.

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That's all I did when I stopped doing families.

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Cause you guys might know that I started as family pet

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photographer. Cause again,

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it was 2010.

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It was like,

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well, certainly can't just do pets.

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I better do humans too to make some money.

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And I gave those up about 2015,

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but it was a soft give up because I stopped marketing.

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But I would still,

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I told all my clients that I liked,

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You know,

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We'll continue to photograph your family for as long as you

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want me to.

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I had a family contact me that had their fifth daughter

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and I photographed the first four.

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And I'm like,

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no. Yeah.

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So, I mean,

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of course I'll still do it,

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but yeah.

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Very it's gotta be the right person.

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Yeah, for sure.

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For sure.

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All my newborn gear,

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I won't get rid of it Because you have a yeah,

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Yeah. The heater.

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And so,

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but you know,

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I few and far between that I will actually take at

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this point.

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Well, and then you just have to wait,

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like, I don't know,

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10 years or so to like all your past clients are

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out of the realm of,

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you know,

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having babies anymore.

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And then he'd be like,

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okay, now I can safely get rid of all this stuff.

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Exactly. Yeah.

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Because I don't want to just not have it,

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but at the,

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you know,

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at the same time I it's,

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you gotta make decisions of what's good for you and your

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business. And I was just done with it.

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Yeah, yeah.

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No, for sure.

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It can be scary,

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but, but it's definitely,

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I think,

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you know,

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I mean,

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you know,

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in your heart what you want to do and even if

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it is scary to make that change because you know,

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our ego likes to all of a sudden be like,

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well, this is how you ruin your business.

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That's a lot of things too.

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Like if I see somebody hire somebody else for newborn photography,

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even though I like,

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I don't even want to do anymore.

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There's a part of me.

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That's like,

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oh, come on,

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I miss that.

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And then like,

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I don't know.

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No, no it's okay.

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Cause you still have money coming in,

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but at the same time,

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like you want to enjoy what you do.

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And yeah.

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I just,

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I think what was my,

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my last newborn shoot might've been no,

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I one that I photographed all my own children and I

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had Eleanor in 2020.

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I think I did one after that.

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Yeah. Or two,

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I don't know.

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But yeah.

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So then Sweet,

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excellent. From the newborns.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Cause this is not a newborn photography and never will be

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so don't you guys worry out There goes that way.

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Yeah. No,

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no. Anyway.

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All right.

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So doing all the pets,

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one of the brilliant things about you,

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Kim, is I feel like you are such an excellent teacher

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on so many different levels from the craft and the studio

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and the lighting to just like really knowing your stuff.

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Business-wise plus you're juggling your business.

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Plus you're juggling three little kids.

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I mean,

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I only have two kids and the youngest,

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one's almost 12 now.

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So they like take care of themselves and the most amazing

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thing ever.

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So, so one of the,

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the thing that kicked this podcast off was in our elevate

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group, that in your accountability pod,

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they wanted to get some more,

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gosh, how to manage like time management.

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How do you keep all these balls in the air?

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And that's something I think everybody struggles with because the common

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denominator that I have found is,

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you know,

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before you have kids,

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you think you're busy and then you have kids and you're

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like, oh,

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you have a kid.

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And you're like,

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oh my God,

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how did I ever think I was busy?

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And then you have two kids.

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You're like,

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oh my God,

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how did I ever think I was busy?

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Then you have three.

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And I can't even imagine.

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I'm never going to know.

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I imagine it's like,

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oh my God,

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she was so easy.

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What was I thinking?

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Yeah. It's pretty,

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pretty nicely.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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And so even if you don't have kids,

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it's probably the same as like the one dog to dog

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three dogs and you know,

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or you're juggling a full-time job and trying to build your

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photography business.

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So no matter what life style you have,

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what dependence human or animal you care for,

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the common denominator is we're all stressed and busy.

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I know sometimes I actually look back at like two years

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ago at the beginning of COVID I'm like,

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oh man,

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I didn't know how good we had it when we had

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nothing to do.

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I know,

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I, you know,

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I kind of,

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it's nice that things are going back,

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but there's part of me that's you really enjoyed having nothing

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to do.

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Yeah. And I feel like my,

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my kind of litmus tests by my level of acceptability of

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busy has definitely shifted because of that,

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that I need more white space on my calendar than I

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used to.

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And actually looking at my calendar this year,

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I'm looking at it on the wall and I have it

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blocked out and purple when I'm out of town came,

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you know,

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I love to travel,

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but, but this year I looked at it.

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I'm like,

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Ooh, that might be too much.

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I mean,

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so far so good.

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I'm a quarter of the way through the next one to,

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well, through,

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through the end of July,

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actually through the end of summer is like the next big,

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big, big chunk.

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And then the last quarter is just one trip.

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But you know,

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it's all that stuff that we had planned during the pandemic

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that had gotten pushed off.

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I mean three workshops and then a couple of vacations and

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then mastermind meetings and,

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you know,

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sprinkle on some horse shows and I want to do all

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of it.

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So there's nothing on there.

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That's like,

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I'm, you know,

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I'm not dreading going to Italy over the end of June.

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Yes, yes,

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absolutely. I'm also not dreading teaching workshops like so far,

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like in a month And getting there and it's not like

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I mind getting there.

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It's just like the prep and all the cause it's it's

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a lot.

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Yeah, it is.

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It is.

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And then I know I struggle.

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I don't know how much he struggled with this,

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but I definitely struggle with the,

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oh yeah.

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I've got time for that.

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And then realizing later that I really don't,

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It's so easy to,

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you know,

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we want to do everything and we want to,

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you know,

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have this time for everything you realize you don't and it's,

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it can be very stressful then it's like,

328
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well, I said I could do it.

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And I'm very good at saying no,

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and it's hard to get to that point,

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but it's impossible to make everybody happy and to make what

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happens is you say yes to everything,

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you do all these things and then you're unhappy.

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Right, Right.

335
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That's where the shift needs to be.

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And it's,

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it's, it's,

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you know,

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finding that balance is really difficult.

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And I do think that like,

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I like what you said about COVID needing the more white

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space. Cause it's true.

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Like we had more time for ourselves to not worry about,

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I've got to do all these things.

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And now that it's coming back,

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I feel the same way.

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Like I don't want,

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my calendar is full.

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I mean,

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I still want it full,

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you know,

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but not the handful.

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Right. Exactly.

354
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I don't know what that,

355
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that distinction is,

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but Yeah.

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Yeah. Oh man,

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for real.

359
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So let's talk some high level strategies first,

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maybe like,

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do you have any thing that you kind of look at

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for like planning your year or putting like the big rocks

363
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in first or just what are kind of the first steps

364
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maybe you look at to make sure things stay under control

365
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in the time management division?

366
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Oh, there's a lot of,

367
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there's a lot of layers in there.

368
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So I do look at the big picture because I think

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that's super helpful.

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I look,

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you know,

372
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based on the beginning of the year,

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I always do a marketing calendar and I always do a

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new business plan at the beginning of the year.

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And I see where,

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okay, I'm going to,

377
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I want to be busy at these times during the year.

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And I kind of plan for that.

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Like I put it in my calendar,

380
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okay. I need to start marketing this or I need to

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focus on this,

382
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but then you got to look at other things too.

383
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I mean,

384
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I have three kids,

385
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I've got to look at the school calendar and I've got

386
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to look at all these different things.

387
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But first and foremost,

388
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when it comes to the business,

389
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I definitely figure out which I know I need to start

390
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promotion for in which areas I need to block off that

391
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I know is more time for family.

392
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And I put that in so that I don't,

393
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it's the worst thing is scheduling over things because it's so

394
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easy to do if it's not in your calendar.

395
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So I highly recommend using a calendar.

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I don't care what it is.

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It feels like most people do,

398
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but it's still easy.

399
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Like they're always,

400
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sometimes I'll be staring at my calendar and I'll,

401
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I'll look at a day and I go,

402
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I know there's something on this day.

403
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I know there is,

404
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It happened to me on Monday and it was,

405
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yeah. And I was like that,

406
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I know I have a nine o'clock zoom,

407
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but there was something else.

408
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There was something else.

409
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What the heck was it?

410
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I know there was something else.

411
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It turned out it was a client sales session,

412
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which I did remember like an hour later because I was

413
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just like,

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I know there's something else.

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And we had talked,

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you know,

417
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finalize that on email.

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And I just,

419
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I never put it on my calendar.

420
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Yeah. It's a feeling in the world and that's happened to

421
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me before.

422
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So yeah.

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Put things down as soon as they happen and,

424
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and in advance,

425
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like one thing too that I like to do is if

426
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I have things coming up,

427
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just whatever,

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if I know I need to get stuff done in a

429
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month, I schedule it on my calendar Because if you don't,

430
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it's just like,

431
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oh, I'm going to just sit at my desk and do

432
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lots of things.

433
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And then I get sidetracked doing that.

434
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And so I physically put it in my calendar so that

435
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I get it done because otherwise it's so easy to forget.

436
00:13:12,940 --> 00:13:13,690
Yeah. Right.

437
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And you have to treat that,

438
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like to block off,

439
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if you have a big,

440
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like, I need to revamp my pricing and create my new

441
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pricing guide.

442
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Like you just need to block off time and treat that

443
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as non-negotiable,

444
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because I think we very easily like,

445
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oh, somebody else needs something from me.

446
00:13:30,820 --> 00:13:32,050
Yeah. I can push that.

447
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It's just me.

448
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And that's a slippery slope of then just resentment and never

449
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getting anything done.

450
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Yeah. No,

451
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I mean,

452
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I think that's,

453
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that's a great point because if we don't it's we easily

454
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push our own stuff to the back burner and then it

455
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doesn't get done.

456
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Right. For like,

457
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that's what happens to a lot of people.

458
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That's why I actually schedule it in the calendar.

459
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And then I used to the schedule,

460
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I feel like has changed a lot since COVID,

461
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but I would have one day where I wouldn't take clients

462
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during the week and we're going,

463
00:14:06,020 --> 00:14:07,840
just focus on all the stuff I need to get done.

464
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Like some people call it marketing Monday,

465
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even though it's like not just marketing it's wherever I need

466
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to get done,

467
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catch up on emails,

468
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you know,

469
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the pricing,

470
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I just actually redid my pricing.

471
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So I did that one day,

472
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but you need to have a day where you can do

473
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all the administrative things in your business.

474
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If you don't have somebody to help you do it.

475
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Right. Right.

476
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Absolutely. And even the administrative things in your life,

477
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your personal stuff too,

478
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to have a plan for that,

479
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you know,

480
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so that you're not just spending any time,

481
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like on the weekend.

482
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The worst thing I think is,

483
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you know,

484
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when you were working,

485
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when I was working full-time at the aviary or,

486
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you know,

487
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not in the house.

488
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Right. And so it was like,

489
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then you get to your weekend and it's like,

490
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well, now I have to spend the whole weekend,

491
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like managing all the stuff around the house that I didn't

492
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get done all week.

493
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So, you know,

494
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I'm a huge proponent of outsourcing.

495
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I mean,

496
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there's no way that hair of the dog could run without

497
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the team because I physically can't do it like Possible.

498
00:15:13,620 --> 00:15:15,740
It's so hard to have all the moving parts in your

499
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own business.

500
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If that's all,

501
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you know,

502
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not your thing is you need,

503
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I think I would go insane if I had to deal

504
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with all those moving parts,

505
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it didn't have help.

506
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But I think,

507
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yeah, or outsourcing is I'm a huge proponent of outsourcing and

508
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everything that I don't do the best or don't have to

509
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do. I outsource.

510
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And That it takes a lot off your plate and relieves

511
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some of the stress.

512
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But then also one of the things too,

513
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I think,

514
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is creating a schedule,

515
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even though we're our own bosses.

516
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And we,

517
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I mean,

518
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I work from home,

519
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you know,

520
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you work from home.

521
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I still know that I like to schedule my clients during

522
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a certain set of hours and it's not like my normal,

523
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like whatever,

524
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you know,

525
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Monday through Thursday,

526
00:15:56,570 --> 00:15:58,430
I'm open 10 to four or whatever I liked.

527
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I just know I like to do them like between nine

528
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and one.

529
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And that's when I schedule not just my clients,

530
00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:09,320
but like my calls or elevate and then academy,

531
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because I know that's just,

532
00:16:10,820 --> 00:16:14,450
I work better in those hours In the afternoon.

533
00:16:14,450 --> 00:16:15,890
I've got all these moving parts,

534
00:16:15,890 --> 00:16:16,790
I've got carpool,

535
00:16:16,790 --> 00:16:17,990
I've got baseball,

536
00:16:17,990 --> 00:16:18,770
softball, I've got,

537
00:16:18,770 --> 00:16:19,010
you know,

538
00:16:19,010 --> 00:16:20,030
all this stuff going on.

539
00:16:20,030 --> 00:16:21,440
That's not within my business,

540
00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:22,640
but that I still have to manage.

541
00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:23,750
Right, right.

542
00:16:23,810 --> 00:16:25,940
Exactly. A hundred percent.

543
00:16:25,970 --> 00:16:26,870
Totally agree.

544
00:16:27,140 --> 00:16:28,790
So I think one of the things to try to get

545
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a handle,

546
00:16:29,930 --> 00:16:30,290
one of the,

547
00:16:30,290 --> 00:16:33,140
to is to look at your calendar and figure out like,

548
00:16:33,170 --> 00:16:33,440
all right,

549
00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,420
where do I actually have responsibilities?

550
00:16:36,350 --> 00:16:37,850
And where,

551
00:16:37,850 --> 00:16:41,180
where do I want to slot these work pieces in and

552
00:16:41,180 --> 00:16:42,440
then schedule it that way?

553
00:16:43,940 --> 00:16:47,150
Yeah. So my like changes throughout the year to pest depending

554
00:16:47,150 --> 00:16:48,320
on winter or summer.

555
00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:49,250
Cause in the summer,

556
00:16:49,580 --> 00:16:52,400
I like to do my calls and my schedule,

557
00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,070
my things in the afternoon because I go to the barn

558
00:16:55,070 --> 00:16:55,550
in the morning,

559
00:16:55,550 --> 00:16:56,930
cause it gets too hot in the afternoon,

560
00:16:57,210 --> 00:16:58,010
but in the winter,

561
00:16:58,010 --> 00:16:59,210
it's too cold in the morning.

562
00:16:59,210 --> 00:17:00,710
So I go to the barn in the afternoon.

563
00:17:00,710 --> 00:17:02,210
So I do more things in the morning.

564
00:17:02,210 --> 00:17:05,180
So I have this like seasonality to my schedule as well.

565
00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,540
But the key is just knowing when you need to do

566
00:17:08,540 --> 00:17:14,420
it. And then also knowing your own kind of time of

567
00:17:14,420 --> 00:17:15,410
genius of the day.

568
00:17:15,410 --> 00:17:17,570
Like if you asked me to do deep work at three

569
00:17:17,570 --> 00:17:20,270
in the afternoon Or Later,

570
00:17:20,540 --> 00:17:20,900
I mean,

571
00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,620
I can definitely like sign my name at 8:00 PM.

572
00:17:24,620 --> 00:17:26,070
I mean it's no,

573
00:17:28,370 --> 00:17:30,860
But knowing that about yourself is very important too,

574
00:17:30,860 --> 00:17:33,800
because Half the time I get home from carpool and I

575
00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,470
feel like I need an app and I write one,

576
00:17:36,470 --> 00:17:37,970
but I feel like I could use one.

577
00:17:39,110 --> 00:17:41,060
So I know that's why I schedule in the morning because

578
00:17:41,060 --> 00:17:42,140
I'm better in the morning.

579
00:17:42,350 --> 00:17:42,920
I'd be out here.

580
00:17:42,930 --> 00:17:43,370
I'm more.

581
00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:44,750
Yeah. And you know,

582
00:17:44,750 --> 00:17:45,740
in the summers,

583
00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,410
I still schedule in the morning because I do,

584
00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,070
it's kind of the seasonality thing too,

585
00:17:50,070 --> 00:17:52,680
except it's cold in the morning where I am in summers.

586
00:17:53,010 --> 00:17:54,390
Right. More stuff in the afternoon.

587
00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:56,100
Yeah, I right.

588
00:17:56,550 --> 00:17:57,420
And then I think too,

589
00:17:57,420 --> 00:17:59,790
having boundaries is very important.

590
00:18:00,180 --> 00:18:00,690
You know,

591
00:18:01,650 --> 00:18:02,670
Whatever they may be,

592
00:18:02,670 --> 00:18:02,850
you know,

593
00:18:02,850 --> 00:18:05,070
depending on if you work full time or if you do

594
00:18:05,070 --> 00:18:05,820
the story of the week,

595
00:18:05,970 --> 00:18:08,610
have set hours for yourself and try to work within those

596
00:18:08,610 --> 00:18:09,660
hours. Even if it's,

597
00:18:09,660 --> 00:18:10,590
if you work during the week,

598
00:18:10,780 --> 00:18:12,090
have a few set hours on the weekend,

599
00:18:12,120 --> 00:18:13,140
but not the whole weekend,

600
00:18:13,170 --> 00:18:13,440
you know,

601
00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,720
you got set up so that you can have a life.

602
00:18:16,170 --> 00:18:17,070
I Think Yes.

603
00:18:17,100 --> 00:18:21,120
The time management really comes into play there because if I

604
00:18:21,120 --> 00:18:22,350
didn't have boundaries in my business,

605
00:18:22,350 --> 00:18:23,250
I would lose my mind.

606
00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:26,700
And you wouldn't even release,

607
00:18:26,730 --> 00:18:29,640
I wouldn't realize it until it was too late because,

608
00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:30,690
because we,

609
00:18:30,690 --> 00:18:32,880
we like to work in our business.

610
00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:34,530
Like I love it.

611
00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,170
So it's not like I got to go do work.

612
00:18:38,070 --> 00:18:39,060
I want to go do some work.

613
00:18:39,090 --> 00:18:42,060
And so it's a really dangerous slippery slope because we enjoy

614
00:18:42,090 --> 00:18:48,510
it that we can then choose that short-term business stuff over

615
00:18:48,510 --> 00:18:51,270
like the longterm actual important things in our life that,

616
00:18:51,390 --> 00:18:52,200
yes, you know,

617
00:18:52,230 --> 00:18:53,040
we friends,

618
00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,110
family. I mean,

619
00:18:55,180 --> 00:18:58,170
I, I used to work when I first opened my business,

620
00:18:58,200 --> 00:18:59,280
24 7,

621
00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,290
and I had a retail space where I was never home.

622
00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:02,880
I found myself,

623
00:19:02,910 --> 00:19:05,640
I took a session on a Sunday and I never took

624
00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:06,630
sessions on Sunday.

625
00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:08,760
That's like my one day I like to do nothing on

626
00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:09,660
Sunday, literally nothing.

627
00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:10,160
I mean,

628
00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:11,070
I don't even want to get dressed.

629
00:19:11,070 --> 00:19:12,360
So that's my Sunday.

630
00:19:12,360 --> 00:19:13,020
That's what I've always,

631
00:19:13,020 --> 00:19:13,890
that's what I enjoy.

632
00:19:14,250 --> 00:19:16,080
And I remember photographing these.

633
00:19:16,140 --> 00:19:19,440
It was two Cavaliers and all my family was at like

634
00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,780
a football game and I was working and I thought to

635
00:19:21,780 --> 00:19:22,830
myself, what am I doing?

636
00:19:22,860 --> 00:19:23,490
Like I was,

637
00:19:23,490 --> 00:19:26,010
I hated every minute I was at my studio because I

638
00:19:26,010 --> 00:19:27,990
was hanging out and I was just like,

639
00:19:27,990 --> 00:19:28,440
this is,

640
00:19:28,470 --> 00:19:29,100
this is silly.

641
00:19:29,100 --> 00:19:30,750
I sh I don't have to work on a Sunday.

642
00:19:31,260 --> 00:19:33,390
And so the chain of revamp changed things,

643
00:19:33,390 --> 00:19:36,060
put in a lot of boundaries for myself.

644
00:19:36,630 --> 00:19:38,310
And it's hard to turn off,

645
00:19:38,430 --> 00:19:38,700
you know,

646
00:19:38,700 --> 00:19:40,740
when it's five o'clock to walk away,

647
00:19:40,740 --> 00:19:43,140
especially if it's in your house or whatever time you turn

648
00:19:43,140 --> 00:19:46,770
off, I think you just have to make yourself like,

649
00:19:46,770 --> 00:19:48,600
especially, I know people get sucked in when they edit their

650
00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,490
images. And I mean,

651
00:19:50,490 --> 00:19:51,690
I use a retouch artists now,

652
00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:52,440
cause I just,

653
00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,090
it was like a time suck.

654
00:19:54,090 --> 00:19:56,790
And I don't have time to be editing all these images

655
00:19:56,790 --> 00:19:59,820
when it's little things like editing for office sofa or the

656
00:19:59,820 --> 00:20:00,750
floor, or,

657
00:20:00,900 --> 00:20:01,080
you know,

658
00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:01,920
Ruby rule.

659
00:20:02,190 --> 00:20:04,080
I'll just send that to my guy so I can spend

660
00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:05,250
time with my family.

661
00:20:06,120 --> 00:20:07,920
And I think if you do still edit your own work,

662
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:08,940
that's, that's fine.

663
00:20:08,940 --> 00:20:09,120
I mean,

664
00:20:09,130 --> 00:20:10,500
a little people love it obviously,

665
00:20:10,580 --> 00:20:12,090
but the time limit,

666
00:20:12,150 --> 00:20:14,370
I'm only going to edit for an hour.

667
00:20:14,940 --> 00:20:16,620
Yeah. Or,

668
00:20:16,620 --> 00:20:17,520
or if you'd like,

669
00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:21,390
what I do is if there's one that I'm emotionally connected

670
00:20:21,390 --> 00:20:26,670
to, I'll edit that one and then I'll outsource others don't

671
00:20:26,670 --> 00:20:28,020
need to remove 20 leashes.

672
00:20:28,020 --> 00:20:29,610
Like I've been there,

673
00:20:29,610 --> 00:20:30,120
done that.

674
00:20:31,580 --> 00:20:34,410
And having a retouch artist is actually people are like,

675
00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:34,860
oh no,

676
00:20:34,890 --> 00:20:37,290
firstly like a lot of people are opposed to someone else

677
00:20:37,290 --> 00:20:38,130
retouching at work.

678
00:20:38,460 --> 00:20:39,810
But then also the worry about the cost,

679
00:20:39,810 --> 00:20:41,610
but really saves you so much time.

680
00:20:41,820 --> 00:20:45,060
And it's the time you're sitting in front of the computer,

681
00:20:45,120 --> 00:20:47,740
earning nothing versus like starting out somebody who does this,

682
00:20:47,740 --> 00:20:50,530
like super quick and you don't have to do the tedious

683
00:20:50,530 --> 00:20:52,270
stuff. Like I haven't moved Alicia and I can't tell you

684
00:20:52,270 --> 00:20:52,690
how long.

685
00:20:53,340 --> 00:20:56,410
Right. Do you have a,

686
00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,020
like an individual person that does your retouching?

687
00:20:59,050 --> 00:21:02,800
Yeah. Where did you find them To me actually about two

688
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,390
years into my business.

689
00:21:05,050 --> 00:21:07,180
I think he worked with another photographer in Houston and she

690
00:21:07,180 --> 00:21:10,000
was closing her studio and me,

691
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,550
we, I met with him at my studio and he lives

692
00:21:12,550 --> 00:21:13,210
in Houston.

693
00:21:13,300 --> 00:21:16,000
I've given his name out so many times because it's so

694
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,060
easy. I text him that I've put up images in the

695
00:21:19,060 --> 00:21:19,900
Dropbox folder,

696
00:21:19,900 --> 00:21:21,190
if that detailed instructions,

697
00:21:21,190 --> 00:21:22,300
he Dropboxes and back.

698
00:21:22,300 --> 00:21:23,530
And that's it so easy.

699
00:21:23,980 --> 00:21:24,910
That's so great.

700
00:21:25,210 --> 00:21:25,510
And he's,

701
00:21:25,510 --> 00:21:26,560
and so I've worked with him now.

702
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,620
It's been like 10 years that he knows exactly what I

703
00:21:29,620 --> 00:21:31,960
need when I say I want like a basic retouch of

704
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:32,620
this image.

705
00:21:32,620 --> 00:21:34,570
And, and he's super quick,

706
00:21:34,570 --> 00:21:36,430
like actually did a headshot on Monday.

707
00:21:36,790 --> 00:21:38,080
And the,

708
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:39,760
the person I photograph was like,

709
00:21:39,790 --> 00:21:41,620
can I possibly get one of these today?

710
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:42,070
I'm like,

711
00:21:42,100 --> 00:21:43,150
well, I'll see.

712
00:21:44,730 --> 00:21:47,770
And he gave me both of the images back that day.

713
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:48,460
No problem.

714
00:21:48,460 --> 00:21:49,630
That's fantastic.

715
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:50,410
They looked great.

716
00:21:50,410 --> 00:21:52,300
I didn't have to do anything and headshots too.

717
00:21:52,300 --> 00:21:54,160
Especially like I hate retouching those.

718
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:58,720
Like I've heard dogs just shoot him headshots,

719
00:21:58,720 --> 00:21:59,860
but he's very quick.

720
00:21:59,860 --> 00:22:01,630
And it makes my life so much easier.

721
00:22:01,630 --> 00:22:02,890
Cause I would have had to spend,

722
00:22:03,460 --> 00:22:03,700
you know,

723
00:22:03,700 --> 00:22:04,810
an hour or two,

724
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:05,680
depending on,

725
00:22:05,740 --> 00:22:05,950
you know,

726
00:22:05,950 --> 00:22:07,960
all the things that need to be done because I don't

727
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,190
do it all the time anymore too.

728
00:22:09,190 --> 00:22:09,700
So it's like,

729
00:22:09,700 --> 00:22:10,810
it takes right now.

730
00:22:11,530 --> 00:22:14,470
Right. I do my final edits on all of my images

731
00:22:14,470 --> 00:22:16,090
that go for like wall art,

732
00:22:16,120 --> 00:22:17,560
but he does all the tedious stuff.

733
00:22:18,070 --> 00:22:19,360
Yeah, no that's perfect.

734
00:22:19,360 --> 00:22:19,930
That's perfect.

735
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:21,100
I've used evolve at,

736
00:22:21,100 --> 00:22:23,080
it switches a company.

737
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,080
They do like I used to send out for a hot

738
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,330
minute, my like Lightroom retouching,

739
00:22:28,330 --> 00:22:30,640
but I wanted to choose,

740
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,920
I couldn't let go of the control of calling my,

741
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:33,700
my stuff.

742
00:22:33,730 --> 00:22:36,760
Like I need to call my own images Of my own

743
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,410
images. I don't know if they can give that away.

744
00:22:38,530 --> 00:22:39,270
No, I,

745
00:22:39,270 --> 00:22:40,240
I, that was a hard,

746
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:41,110
no for me too.

747
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:46,600
And then I found that my light room tweaks were so

748
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,940
quick and easy that it took me just as much time

749
00:22:48,940 --> 00:22:49,660
to prep them,

750
00:22:49,660 --> 00:22:50,410
send them out,

751
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:51,220
get them back.

752
00:22:51,220 --> 00:22:52,210
Re-import them.

753
00:22:52,210 --> 00:22:54,370
Then it was just to do my light remittance.

754
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:55,620
So the,

755
00:22:55,620 --> 00:22:56,860
I do that all myself,

756
00:22:57,190 --> 00:22:58,270
but then I do,

757
00:22:58,630 --> 00:23:02,590
I do send out the leash removals if it's like something

758
00:23:02,590 --> 00:23:03,130
super quick.

759
00:23:03,130 --> 00:23:05,260
Yes. But if it's someone that's getting the whole gallery,

760
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:06,670
you know,

761
00:23:06,670 --> 00:23:10,180
it's there all the dog was unleashed for the whole time.

762
00:23:10,180 --> 00:23:11,200
So there's a gazillion of them.

763
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:12,130
Like no.

764
00:23:12,970 --> 00:23:14,590
Can you think of all the time that you save and

765
00:23:14,590 --> 00:23:15,730
really the cost is,

766
00:23:15,790 --> 00:23:16,870
is dependent.

767
00:23:16,870 --> 00:23:17,050
I mean,

768
00:23:17,050 --> 00:23:18,880
I don't how much your service costs,

769
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,980
but I know my price is not that expensive in these

770
00:23:20,980 --> 00:23:22,060
quick, Right?

771
00:23:22,060 --> 00:23:22,690
Yeah, exactly.

772
00:23:22,690 --> 00:23:23,770
Mine super quick to theirs.

773
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:24,850
I think last time I checked,

774
00:23:24,850 --> 00:23:26,290
there was $75 an hour,

775
00:23:26,290 --> 00:23:28,210
but I would send off a whole session and it'd be

776
00:23:28,450 --> 00:23:30,760
only charged like an hour and a half at the most.

777
00:23:30,890 --> 00:23:31,150
I'm like,

778
00:23:31,210 --> 00:23:31,780
ah, yeah,

779
00:23:31,900 --> 00:23:33,760
boom, Five an hour.

780
00:23:34,390 --> 00:23:34,990
Oh my God.

781
00:23:34,990 --> 00:23:35,890
That's amazing.

782
00:23:37,030 --> 00:23:37,930
It is only him.

783
00:23:37,930 --> 00:23:38,320
I mean,

784
00:23:39,070 --> 00:23:39,640
he's great.

785
00:23:39,670 --> 00:23:40,060
I mean,

786
00:23:40,750 --> 00:23:42,610
so I love using him.

787
00:23:43,030 --> 00:23:43,810
Yeah. And you know,

788
00:23:43,810 --> 00:23:45,500
you guys could find if you guys are out there listening

789
00:23:45,500 --> 00:23:45,800
and you're like,

790
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:46,760
I would love to do this.

791
00:23:46,790 --> 00:23:51,500
You can definitely find people on like Upwork or Fiverr.

792
00:23:51,500 --> 00:23:53,780
Cause there's a lot of editors on there and you can

793
00:23:53,780 --> 00:23:54,650
send off,

794
00:23:54,650 --> 00:23:55,100
you know,

795
00:23:55,130 --> 00:23:58,700
hire five as a test and send them like two or

796
00:23:58,700 --> 00:24:02,660
three images and see who does the best work who gets

797
00:24:02,660 --> 00:24:03,560
back to you quickly.

798
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,510
And then you can create a relationship with them.

799
00:24:05,780 --> 00:24:08,750
It's really not that hard.

800
00:24:09,260 --> 00:24:10,970
I think a lot of people just get stuck in the

801
00:24:10,970 --> 00:24:13,340
unknown because it seems scary.

802
00:24:13,340 --> 00:24:13,880
And it's like,

803
00:24:14,330 --> 00:24:16,040
oh, they're not going to do it as good as me.

804
00:24:16,070 --> 00:24:18,200
Well, it's going to take maybe a little bit of time

805
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,500
and with how easy it is now to do screen recordings

806
00:24:21,500 --> 00:24:22,190
with the loom,

807
00:24:22,220 --> 00:24:22,640
like it's,

808
00:24:22,700 --> 00:24:23,390
it's free.

809
00:24:23,390 --> 00:24:25,340
You just go to the website loom and you record your

810
00:24:25,340 --> 00:24:27,530
screen and you can show them exactly.

811
00:24:27,530 --> 00:24:29,030
Like, this is how I do my eyes.

812
00:24:29,210 --> 00:24:32,840
This is how I do this so they can finish it

813
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,400
exactly how you would finish it.

814
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:35,480
That's a great idea.

815
00:24:35,690 --> 00:24:36,080
I mean,

816
00:24:36,140 --> 00:24:38,750
yeah. And you may find too that you have to try

817
00:24:38,750 --> 00:24:39,650
a few people out,

818
00:24:39,650 --> 00:24:42,770
but finding the right person and having that taken off your

819
00:24:42,770 --> 00:24:45,080
plate frees up so much time.

820
00:24:45,350 --> 00:24:47,570
So you have to think about what do you do best.

821
00:24:47,570 --> 00:24:49,460
And even if you're a great retoucher,

822
00:24:49,820 --> 00:24:53,240
retouching out 20 leashes is not making you any more money

823
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:54,920
it's taking your time.

824
00:24:55,340 --> 00:24:56,030
Yeah. Yeah.

825
00:24:56,090 --> 00:24:58,310
And even if you're not going to use that time for

826
00:24:58,310 --> 00:25:01,820
like shooting another session or doing some more marketing,

827
00:25:01,820 --> 00:25:07,430
like isn't your just self-care or like your downtime or something.

828
00:25:07,730 --> 00:25:08,810
Yeah. I think it is.

829
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:09,860
It totally is.

830
00:25:09,860 --> 00:25:11,840
And we always put ourselves on the back burner.

831
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:12,770
I feel like we're gonna,

832
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,030
I got knock out,

833
00:25:14,030 --> 00:25:14,270
you know,

834
00:25:14,270 --> 00:25:15,020
this whole session,

835
00:25:15,740 --> 00:25:15,980
you know,

836
00:25:15,980 --> 00:25:18,680
I can't have dinner with my family tonight or I'm going

837
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,120
to put the kids to bed and then I'm going to

838
00:25:20,540 --> 00:25:21,950
edit for five hours.

839
00:25:21,950 --> 00:25:22,220
You know,

840
00:25:23,270 --> 00:25:24,410
it's going to drive you insane.

841
00:25:24,410 --> 00:25:24,650
I mean,

842
00:25:24,650 --> 00:25:26,330
you have to have a little bit of balance.

843
00:25:26,330 --> 00:25:28,280
So like I'm done.

844
00:25:28,730 --> 00:25:30,020
Like I have hard hours.

845
00:25:30,020 --> 00:25:31,510
As soon as I walk out of my studio,

846
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,200
my studio is closed for the day I'm done.

847
00:25:33,380 --> 00:25:34,970
I'm not going to answer my phone.

848
00:25:35,450 --> 00:25:37,820
I'm not going to respond to emails until the next day,

849
00:25:37,820 --> 00:25:38,610
unless I'm going to look at it.

850
00:25:38,610 --> 00:25:39,800
And if it's an emergency on staff,

851
00:25:40,730 --> 00:25:41,990
But as far as with clients,

852
00:25:41,990 --> 00:25:43,460
no, there's gotta be limits.

853
00:25:43,490 --> 00:25:43,910
I mean,

854
00:25:43,940 --> 00:25:46,490
especially now that everybody's on their cell phones for their,

855
00:25:46,650 --> 00:25:47,420
their clients,

856
00:25:47,420 --> 00:25:48,920
if they have your direct cell,

857
00:25:48,950 --> 00:25:50,180
like, I mean,

858
00:25:50,330 --> 00:25:52,550
people don't have any respect for other people's time.

859
00:25:52,820 --> 00:25:53,720
Like, you know,

860
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,560
the calls or texts or whatever,

861
00:25:55,590 --> 00:25:56,240
like late,

862
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:57,110
I'm not doing that.

863
00:25:58,640 --> 00:25:59,150
So, I mean,

864
00:25:59,150 --> 00:26:00,470
I have separate cell phones for that.

865
00:26:00,500 --> 00:26:03,620
Very reason because I was getting those because a client they'll

866
00:26:03,620 --> 00:26:04,700
phone and you know,

867
00:26:04,730 --> 00:26:05,690
you have to have downtime.

868
00:26:05,690 --> 00:26:07,640
Like once I'm done working,

869
00:26:07,820 --> 00:26:08,120
you know,

870
00:26:08,120 --> 00:26:09,680
I've got picking my kids up,

871
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,240
I'm cooking dinner,

872
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:12,950
we've got afterschool activities.

873
00:26:12,950 --> 00:26:14,300
And then once they go to bed,

874
00:26:14,540 --> 00:26:15,860
I want to do literally nothing,

875
00:26:17,630 --> 00:26:19,250
Nothing. I'm going to sit on the couch,

876
00:26:19,610 --> 00:26:20,390
watch a show,

877
00:26:20,390 --> 00:26:21,290
or I'm going to read a book.

878
00:26:21,500 --> 00:26:22,610
And you know,

879
00:26:24,110 --> 00:26:25,130
I, I do feel a little bad.

880
00:26:25,130 --> 00:26:27,380
Cause I recently finished a season,

881
00:26:27,380 --> 00:26:28,130
two of Frazier tin.

882
00:26:28,130 --> 00:26:30,380
And I may have given my kids a melatonin for the

883
00:26:30,380 --> 00:26:30,740
last night,

884
00:26:30,980 --> 00:26:32,270
I was like watching the show,

885
00:26:32,300 --> 00:26:33,110
you're going to bed.

886
00:26:34,490 --> 00:26:35,780
You got to have a little bit of a,

887
00:26:37,100 --> 00:26:38,160
That's fine.

888
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,370
You're a better mom because of it.

889
00:26:41,750 --> 00:26:42,720
They needed to go to bed.

890
00:26:42,740 --> 00:26:45,120
So A lot of town.

891
00:26:45,130 --> 00:26:45,990
So I was like,

892
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:47,010
y'all are going to bed.

893
00:26:47,850 --> 00:26:49,170
Yeah. Goodnight.

894
00:26:49,410 --> 00:26:51,600
Like you can't,

895
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:52,830
you can't stay here and you can't stay up.

896
00:26:52,830 --> 00:26:54,300
So I don't care what you do in your room,

897
00:26:54,300 --> 00:26:54,900
but go to your room.

898
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,910
I love it important because even if you don't have kids,

899
00:26:59,910 --> 00:27:00,060
I mean,

900
00:27:00,060 --> 00:27:00,660
you have other stuff,

901
00:27:00,660 --> 00:27:02,010
this other stuff going on in your life,

902
00:27:02,010 --> 00:27:03,540
you've got to have some time for yourself.

903
00:27:04,230 --> 00:27:05,250
Yeah. Yeah.

904
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,860
And to make that non-negotiable I think one of the other

905
00:27:07,860 --> 00:27:11,010
things that people can do is to ask themselves what are

906
00:27:11,010 --> 00:27:14,760
the non-negotiable non-negotiable things in my business is that I don't

907
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,100
shoot Sundays is that I don't work.

908
00:27:17,790 --> 00:27:18,360
You know,

909
00:27:18,690 --> 00:27:19,500
I don't work Monday,

910
00:27:19,530 --> 00:27:21,510
whatever. Like what day is it that you don't work?

911
00:27:21,510 --> 00:27:22,620
What hours do you stop?

912
00:27:22,650 --> 00:27:23,190
You know,

913
00:27:23,670 --> 00:27:25,140
making those,

914
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,200
those hard stops of maybe you have to hard stop yourself

915
00:27:28,230 --> 00:27:29,340
or like make rule of like,

916
00:27:29,370 --> 00:27:32,670
I will only take five clients month because you know,

917
00:27:32,670 --> 00:27:35,280
one October you took like eight and you're pulling your hair

918
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:40,410
out. So making those non-negotiables and then building your business around

919
00:27:40,410 --> 00:27:44,970
it, because that's the beauty of these businesses is like your

920
00:27:44,970 --> 00:27:46,260
business, my business,

921
00:27:46,380 --> 00:27:47,280
all the other coaches,

922
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:51,450
all of our students like everybody's business is different and it's

923
00:27:51,450 --> 00:27:55,410
built differently on purpose because it suits their life better.

924
00:27:55,650 --> 00:27:56,430
Right. I mean,

925
00:27:56,650 --> 00:27:58,050
that's, I think that's key is,

926
00:27:58,100 --> 00:27:58,980
is really figuring out.

927
00:27:58,980 --> 00:27:59,640
I love how you said,

928
00:27:59,640 --> 00:27:59,820
you know,

929
00:27:59,820 --> 00:28:03,660
making those decisions on those hard stops because it is important.

930
00:28:03,660 --> 00:28:03,870
I mean,

931
00:28:03,870 --> 00:28:05,730
what I do is going to be very different from what

932
00:28:06,090 --> 00:28:06,300
you know,

933
00:28:06,300 --> 00:28:06,960
you do,

934
00:28:07,530 --> 00:28:09,420
what's important to you and what's important to me is going

935
00:28:09,420 --> 00:28:10,770
to vary and everyone else.

936
00:28:10,770 --> 00:28:12,030
So, but figuring out,

937
00:28:12,030 --> 00:28:12,300
you know,

938
00:28:12,330 --> 00:28:13,290
you need time,

939
00:28:13,620 --> 00:28:13,920
you know,

940
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,020
on a certain day or you don't want to work weekends.

941
00:28:16,260 --> 00:28:16,980
That's okay.

942
00:28:17,070 --> 00:28:20,850
Like decide what that is and you stick to it.

943
00:28:20,850 --> 00:28:22,380
And that's probably the hardest part.

944
00:28:22,620 --> 00:28:23,970
Cause you're going to have a client or you're going to

945
00:28:23,970 --> 00:28:24,630
have somebody be like,

946
00:28:24,900 --> 00:28:26,340
well, can you just make an exception?

947
00:28:26,340 --> 00:28:26,610
Can you,

948
00:28:26,610 --> 00:28:28,140
and you can always do that.

949
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:29,010
But it depends.

950
00:28:29,010 --> 00:28:31,320
If you want to do that again,

951
00:28:31,350 --> 00:28:33,030
I haven't worked weekends for years.

952
00:28:33,030 --> 00:28:34,320
I don't like to work weekends.

953
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:35,580
I have little hits,

954
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:35,910
you know,

955
00:28:35,910 --> 00:28:38,400
I have so much stuff going on on the weekends now

956
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:39,960
with baseball and softball,

957
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,010
like if I'm working,

958
00:28:41,010 --> 00:28:44,220
it puts Ted in a really tough position plus all that

959
00:28:44,220 --> 00:28:45,930
stuff. So you just,

960
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,840
I, I just am very clear and I just don't and

961
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,610
you know what people,

962
00:28:50,850 --> 00:28:52,710
if they really want me to make the adjustment to come

963
00:28:52,710 --> 00:28:55,230
in, if they really want that weekend,

964
00:28:55,230 --> 00:28:56,340
I'll refer them to somebody else.

965
00:28:56,340 --> 00:28:57,990
Cause I have to have my,

966
00:28:58,770 --> 00:28:59,160
you know,

967
00:28:59,670 --> 00:29:04,920
balance to say it because I would feel guilty.

968
00:29:04,980 --> 00:29:07,200
Like I don't want to feel guilty for not taking them,

969
00:29:07,380 --> 00:29:07,980
but at the same time,

970
00:29:07,980 --> 00:29:10,920
I don't want to resent taking them every minute.

971
00:29:11,250 --> 00:29:12,540
Wishing I could be somewhere Else.

972
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:13,890
Yeah. That's not fair to anybody.

973
00:29:13,950 --> 00:29:15,150
No. Yeah.

974
00:29:15,540 --> 00:29:16,770
Your work is going to be better too,

975
00:29:16,770 --> 00:29:20,070
if you're actually enjoying the session versus trying to get through

976
00:29:20,070 --> 00:29:21,090
it. Yeah.

977
00:29:21,090 --> 00:29:23,670
And I think so many people are scared to make that

978
00:29:23,700 --> 00:29:25,950
hard line in their business because they think they're going to

979
00:29:25,950 --> 00:29:29,100
lose everyone and no one's going to work with them,

980
00:29:29,130 --> 00:29:33,540
but if they love your work and they connect with you,

981
00:29:34,140 --> 00:29:36,210
they will find a way to work with you.

982
00:29:36,210 --> 00:29:37,590
They will take a day off.

983
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,240
They will go into work late,

984
00:29:39,270 --> 00:29:39,510
you know,

985
00:29:39,510 --> 00:29:41,860
especially if you're not shooting in like,

986
00:29:41,980 --> 00:29:42,280
you know,

987
00:29:42,340 --> 00:29:44,290
natural light or shooting outdoors.

988
00:29:44,710 --> 00:29:45,070
I mean,

989
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,560
half the year they can do it after work on the

990
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:53,650
weekdays. I actually prefer not there's like one or two week

991
00:29:53,650 --> 00:29:55,000
nights, I'll take a client,

992
00:29:55,060 --> 00:29:55,570
but I,

993
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:56,290
so my,

994
00:29:56,530 --> 00:29:59,350
my number one value is freedom and flexibility.

995
00:29:59,350 --> 00:30:02,290
Like I want to just do what I want when I

996
00:30:02,290 --> 00:30:03,310
want, like on my calendar.

997
00:30:03,310 --> 00:30:05,770
I don't like though if I was a wedding photographer and

998
00:30:05,770 --> 00:30:08,470
had to give up a weekend a year in advance that

999
00:30:08,470 --> 00:30:09,340
does not work for me.

1000
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,220
And so much that I kind of pulled this into my

1001
00:30:12,220 --> 00:30:13,270
business to have,

1002
00:30:13,270 --> 00:30:14,590
I don't mind shooting on the weekends.

1003
00:30:14,590 --> 00:30:15,250
If I'm around,

1004
00:30:15,250 --> 00:30:15,790
if I'm home,

1005
00:30:16,510 --> 00:30:18,700
it's actually kind of easier because there's less going on with

1006
00:30:18,700 --> 00:30:21,670
like running the kids to school because you know,

1007
00:30:21,670 --> 00:30:23,020
I like to be during golden hour,

1008
00:30:23,020 --> 00:30:25,090
but the evenings during the weekdays are like,

1009
00:30:25,330 --> 00:30:27,100
Oh, I'm just driving them.

1010
00:30:27,220 --> 00:30:27,850
I'm just driving,

1011
00:30:27,850 --> 00:30:30,340
miss Daisy here on sport,

1012
00:30:30,340 --> 00:30:32,230
chauffeur I'm around these parts.

1013
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:33,400
And you know,

1014
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,890
my husband works till like six or so,

1015
00:30:35,890 --> 00:30:36,100
you know?

1016
00:30:36,100 --> 00:30:38,470
So he works a little bit later regardless.

1017
00:30:38,470 --> 00:30:39,670
So I don't mind shooting on the weekends,

1018
00:30:39,670 --> 00:30:43,300
but I'm not gonna give up a weekend in advance.

1019
00:30:43,500 --> 00:30:44,950
Like I'm not going to look and be like,

1020
00:30:44,980 --> 00:30:45,310
oh yeah,

1021
00:30:45,310 --> 00:30:46,840
I can do that weekend in June.

1022
00:30:46,870 --> 00:30:47,260
Like now,

1023
00:30:47,290 --> 00:30:48,280
right now it's April.

1024
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:49,660
I'm not going to confirm,

1025
00:30:49,660 --> 00:30:51,760
but I will say to a client,

1026
00:30:52,060 --> 00:30:54,010
yes. I'm going to give you a,

1027
00:30:54,020 --> 00:30:54,310
you know,

1028
00:30:54,310 --> 00:30:55,780
we can do a weekend in June.

1029
00:30:55,990 --> 00:30:58,030
I'll be in touch towards the end of may or the

1030
00:30:58,030 --> 00:30:58,730
beginning of June.

1031
00:30:58,730 --> 00:30:59,560
And we'll pick our time.

1032
00:30:59,770 --> 00:31:00,400
We'll pick our dates.

1033
00:31:00,490 --> 00:31:01,270
So I know,

1034
00:31:01,270 --> 00:31:02,410
cause I'm only taking,

1035
00:31:02,740 --> 00:31:03,220
you know,

1036
00:31:03,250 --> 00:31:06,730
like three clients a month is max for me with all

1037
00:31:06,730 --> 00:31:08,170
the other stuff I have going on with her and the

1038
00:31:08,170 --> 00:31:08,950
dog and everything else.

1039
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:10,990
So, you know,

1040
00:31:11,020 --> 00:31:13,630
I, that works for me and the clients.

1041
00:31:13,630 --> 00:31:14,350
Totally fine.

1042
00:31:14,350 --> 00:31:14,590
I'm like,

1043
00:31:14,590 --> 00:31:15,190
yeah, you know,

1044
00:31:15,220 --> 00:31:16,390
you've got your October session.

1045
00:31:16,390 --> 00:31:17,950
I'll be in touch as we get closer and we'll figure

1046
00:31:17,950 --> 00:31:19,660
out our exact time and date.

1047
00:31:19,870 --> 00:31:21,310
I think that's a great way to do it because I

1048
00:31:21,310 --> 00:31:24,910
don't like getting locked into a certain weekend either because then

1049
00:31:24,970 --> 00:31:26,890
you still think comes up that you want to meet new.

1050
00:31:26,890 --> 00:31:27,340
And it's like,

1051
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:27,850
oh no,

1052
00:31:27,850 --> 00:31:28,870
I've got that session that day.

1053
00:31:29,350 --> 00:31:30,850
Right? No.

1054
00:31:30,850 --> 00:31:32,470
So I think that's a great way to,

1055
00:31:32,530 --> 00:31:33,340
to approach it.

1056
00:31:33,970 --> 00:31:35,470
Yeah. Because you Still want the client,

1057
00:31:35,470 --> 00:31:37,150
but you gotta have it work for you.

1058
00:31:37,750 --> 00:31:38,620
Yeah. Yeah.

1059
00:31:38,860 --> 00:31:39,250
And you know,

1060
00:31:39,250 --> 00:31:40,330
and if it was depending,

1061
00:31:40,330 --> 00:31:41,680
like if my weekdays were easier,

1062
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,090
I probably wouldn't cheat weekends.

1063
00:31:43,300 --> 00:31:44,170
Except then I,

1064
00:31:44,290 --> 00:31:45,760
yeah. I think we make the rules.

1065
00:31:45,940 --> 00:31:46,720
Like there was,

1066
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,080
I tried not to work Sundays for a while,

1067
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:51,190
like Sunday mornings,

1068
00:31:51,490 --> 00:31:54,850
except there was one location here.

1069
00:31:54,850 --> 00:31:58,870
And one location in Pittsburgh that I loved to shoot at.

1070
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:00,970
And Sunday morning was by far the best time,

1071
00:32:01,150 --> 00:32:03,130
because it was like a warehouse,

1072
00:32:04,330 --> 00:32:07,900
like during the week there was too much downtown traffic parking,

1073
00:32:07,930 --> 00:32:08,830
working people,

1074
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,830
Saturdays from morning to night,

1075
00:32:11,830 --> 00:32:12,760
the place was packed.

1076
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,500
Cause it's like warehouse shopping,

1077
00:32:15,490 --> 00:32:17,530
like food warehouse kind of things.

1078
00:32:17,770 --> 00:32:20,530
But Sunday morning nothing's open.

1079
00:32:20,860 --> 00:32:21,700
You'd be down there.

1080
00:32:21,700 --> 00:32:23,620
It'd be like just you and your clients.

1081
00:32:23,620 --> 00:32:25,630
And like all the parking spaces are open.

1082
00:32:25,630 --> 00:32:27,460
So you can get to the cool warehouse doors.

1083
00:32:27,460 --> 00:32:27,850
You can,

1084
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:28,170
you know,

1085
00:32:28,310 --> 00:32:29,830
it's just like photographers playground.

1086
00:32:29,830 --> 00:32:30,160
So I'm like,

1087
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,030
yes, yes.

1088
00:32:31,030 --> 00:32:33,070
I will work every Sunday morning to shoot there.

1089
00:32:33,670 --> 00:32:34,570
Yeah. No for sure.

1090
00:32:34,570 --> 00:32:34,840
I mean,

1091
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,970
it's, it's a place like that and it makes yeah,

1092
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:37,480
for sure.

1093
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,890
But I would not refuse.

1094
00:32:39,890 --> 00:32:40,490
Like if they're like,

1095
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:41,810
oh, I want to shoot at north park.

1096
00:32:42,230 --> 00:32:43,340
No, no,

1097
00:32:44,030 --> 00:32:46,970
I won't do that on a Sunday morning or Saturday morning

1098
00:32:47,030 --> 00:32:47,870
because it's,

1099
00:32:47,900 --> 00:32:48,800
we can do that in any day.

1100
00:32:49,430 --> 00:32:50,840
Yeah. Well then now yeah.

1101
00:32:50,870 --> 00:32:51,440
I'm with you.

1102
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:52,790
Yeah. That's the kind of the studio.

1103
00:32:52,790 --> 00:32:55,900
Yeah. I can shoot anytime.

1104
00:32:55,910 --> 00:33:00,080
It's Definitely not be like let's do Sunday.

1105
00:33:01,580 --> 00:33:02,990
No, but I do.

1106
00:33:03,740 --> 00:33:05,390
I definitely worry as well.

1107
00:33:05,390 --> 00:33:07,520
When I got rid of the weekend sessions that I was

1108
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,580
going to have huge pushback and I really didn't because like

1109
00:33:10,580 --> 00:33:10,880
you said,

1110
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,170
if people really want to come to you,

1111
00:33:12,170 --> 00:33:12,950
they will.

1112
00:33:13,250 --> 00:33:14,360
And I also tell them,

1113
00:33:14,390 --> 00:33:16,640
let the majority of my clients we'll either take a lunch

1114
00:33:16,910 --> 00:33:19,640
or they'll take a half day and that's how,

1115
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:19,910
you know,

1116
00:33:19,910 --> 00:33:20,210
it works.

1117
00:33:20,330 --> 00:33:22,130
And when people hear what other people do too,

1118
00:33:22,130 --> 00:33:22,430
it's like,

1119
00:33:22,460 --> 00:33:23,240
oh, okay.

1120
00:33:23,690 --> 00:33:24,080
Yeah. Yeah.

1121
00:33:24,140 --> 00:33:25,640
It gives them permission to,

1122
00:33:25,670 --> 00:33:26,180
you know,

1123
00:33:26,210 --> 00:33:28,340
take some time off work to go get their dog photographed

1124
00:33:28,370 --> 00:33:31,070
because in their head they're thinking like,

1125
00:33:31,340 --> 00:33:33,800
look kind of crazy person takes the day off work to

1126
00:33:33,860 --> 00:33:34,940
get their dog photographed.

1127
00:33:35,180 --> 00:33:36,050
People are going to pick up.

1128
00:33:37,970 --> 00:33:38,720
So, but I mean,

1129
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,590
I think letting them know that is always helpful because they're

1130
00:33:42,620 --> 00:33:44,420
more likely to do what other people do.

1131
00:33:45,110 --> 00:33:45,530
But yeah.

1132
00:33:45,530 --> 00:33:46,160
So being like,

1133
00:33:46,190 --> 00:33:46,490
oh yeah,

1134
00:33:46,550 --> 00:33:47,840
my clients typically do X,

1135
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:48,170
Y, Z.

1136
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:48,980
Even if they haven't,

1137
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,690
if this is a new thing for you and I haven't

1138
00:33:50,690 --> 00:33:52,280
seen it still say it.

1139
00:33:53,180 --> 00:33:55,250
Right. It's so that's that magic too.

1140
00:33:55,250 --> 00:33:57,020
When you're talking to somebody about inquiry and say,

1141
00:33:57,020 --> 00:33:58,880
most clients do this or that,

1142
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:04,910
and you have your collections most popular Gravitate towards what other

1143
00:34:04,910 --> 00:34:05,450
people do.

1144
00:34:05,510 --> 00:34:06,110
Yeah. Yup.

1145
00:34:06,230 --> 00:34:08,750
Yeah. And it gives them that kind of subconscious permission to

1146
00:34:08,750 --> 00:34:09,260
do so.

1147
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,000
Yes. So,

1148
00:34:11,330 --> 00:34:11,870
but also,

1149
00:34:11,870 --> 00:34:12,380
you know,

1150
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:17,450
you can make exceptions for clients you want to,

1151
00:34:17,450 --> 00:34:18,500
but you don't have to.

1152
00:34:18,500 --> 00:34:20,270
So if you have a client that's like,

1153
00:34:20,270 --> 00:34:21,560
but I just have to have a Saturday.

1154
00:34:21,650 --> 00:34:23,660
You don't have to do that if you don't really want

1155
00:34:23,660 --> 00:34:25,730
to take them or that Saturday,

1156
00:34:25,730 --> 00:34:27,380
but versus if it's a client that you know,

1157
00:34:27,380 --> 00:34:29,840
and love and you're w you're happy to do that,

1158
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:30,230
then do it.

1159
00:34:30,230 --> 00:34:33,170
Like I have one client that I've,

1160
00:34:33,170 --> 00:34:35,720
I've made the exception to take them on a weekend before,

1161
00:34:35,900 --> 00:34:37,580
or like a Friday afternoon,

1162
00:34:37,700 --> 00:34:38,570
but they'd come to me for,

1163
00:34:38,750 --> 00:34:38,930
you know,

1164
00:34:38,930 --> 00:34:41,190
since I opened and I love their right.

1165
00:34:41,570 --> 00:34:44,330
So of course I will do whatever works for them as

1166
00:34:44,330 --> 00:34:44,470
long as,

1167
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:44,620
you know,

1168
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:45,230
works for me too.

1169
00:34:45,230 --> 00:34:46,160
But yeah.

1170
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:47,810
So other people that are really pushy,

1171
00:34:47,810 --> 00:34:48,950
I just shoot them down.

1172
00:34:48,980 --> 00:34:49,940
Like now I'm sorry.

1173
00:34:49,940 --> 00:34:51,890
I used to book between these hours because I just,

1174
00:34:52,460 --> 00:34:53,240
And then he,

1175
00:34:53,420 --> 00:34:55,100
if they choose to go somewhere else,

1176
00:34:55,100 --> 00:34:55,550
you'd be like,

1177
00:34:55,580 --> 00:34:57,080
oh, I might've dodged a bullet there.

1178
00:34:57,830 --> 00:34:58,670
Yeah. So,

1179
00:34:58,670 --> 00:34:58,910
I mean,

1180
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,110
you don't feel like you have to take,

1181
00:35:00,140 --> 00:35:02,710
literally everybody try to feel them help,

1182
00:35:02,730 --> 00:35:03,620
make sure they're a good fit.

1183
00:35:04,550 --> 00:35:05,930
The other thing you can do too,

1184
00:35:05,930 --> 00:35:07,280
if you're really worried about like,

1185
00:35:07,310 --> 00:35:09,230
oh, I really don't want to work weekends,

1186
00:35:09,230 --> 00:35:11,930
but I have this mental block of no,

1187
00:35:11,930 --> 00:35:12,500
one's going to book me.

1188
00:35:12,500 --> 00:35:13,040
If I know it,

1189
00:35:13,430 --> 00:35:16,070
you can make the weekends a little bit more expensive.

1190
00:35:16,100 --> 00:35:19,310
I have some sort of surcharge Totally did that because I

1191
00:35:19,310 --> 00:35:19,970
was, I was,

1192
00:35:20,060 --> 00:35:22,970
this was when I was first transitioning from getting away from

1193
00:35:22,970 --> 00:35:24,920
weekends and I thought,

1194
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,740
okay, what can I do to kind of coach people towards

1195
00:35:27,740 --> 00:35:28,340
the weekday?

1196
00:35:28,730 --> 00:35:30,320
Yup. And I had,

1197
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,470
I think my session at the time was $150 for a

1198
00:35:33,470 --> 00:35:35,690
studio session during the week.

1199
00:35:35,690 --> 00:35:38,160
And my location session was,

1200
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:39,480
it was two 50.

1201
00:35:40,050 --> 00:35:42,600
And if you wanted a weekend shoot,

1202
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:43,140
I would do it.

1203
00:35:43,140 --> 00:35:44,400
But the session fees doubled.

1204
00:35:44,580 --> 00:35:47,880
So it was 300 per studio and 500 for location.

1205
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,700
And then I had somebody booked me for a location session

1206
00:35:50,700 --> 00:35:52,470
and they paid it and I went to the session.

1207
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:52,830
I was like,

1208
00:35:52,860 --> 00:35:54,870
I still hate every minute of what's happening here.

1209
00:35:55,170 --> 00:35:56,070
So I thought,

1210
00:35:56,100 --> 00:35:57,690
okay, well it's not worth it to me.

1211
00:35:57,690 --> 00:35:59,030
Just even though it was stumbled.

1212
00:35:59,340 --> 00:35:59,910
And I was like,

1213
00:36:00,240 --> 00:36:02,010
Nope. And I just got rid of it.

1214
00:36:02,430 --> 00:36:03,330
And yeah.

1215
00:36:03,330 --> 00:36:05,880
So, and then my studio session now is 300.

1216
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,550
So I just kept it there because I was like,

1217
00:36:08,580 --> 00:36:10,920
oh yeah,

1218
00:36:10,980 --> 00:36:11,520
no. I mean,

1219
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,590
if it's worth it to you to double it and you

1220
00:36:13,590 --> 00:36:16,110
don't, it makes you feel better about shooting on the weekend

1221
00:36:16,110 --> 00:36:16,650
or whatever.

1222
00:36:16,710 --> 00:36:17,850
However you want to structure it,

1223
00:36:18,150 --> 00:36:18,780
go for it,

1224
00:36:19,170 --> 00:36:19,950
but do it.

1225
00:36:19,950 --> 00:36:21,510
And you realize that you still hate it,

1226
00:36:21,750 --> 00:36:22,770
then maybe you don't do it.

1227
00:36:23,310 --> 00:36:24,180
Yup. Yup.

1228
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,640
Yeah. And truly people will,

1229
00:36:26,670 --> 00:36:27,120
you know,

1230
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:28,890
if you're producing great work,

1231
00:36:28,890 --> 00:36:31,170
you have a nice website giving them the experience,

1232
00:36:31,170 --> 00:36:34,560
you're showcasing the value and they want to work with you.

1233
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,090
They will find a way to work with you,

1234
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,730
even if you're not available on the weekends or on a

1235
00:36:38,730 --> 00:36:41,880
certain evening or whatever you think you need to be available

1236
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:42,900
for. Yeah.

1237
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,070
No, that's so true.

1238
00:36:44,340 --> 00:36:44,670
I mean,

1239
00:36:44,670 --> 00:36:48,630
yeah, you make it work for you in your life.

1240
00:36:48,810 --> 00:36:50,010
The hours you need,

1241
00:36:50,100 --> 00:36:51,780
people will find a way if they want to work with

1242
00:36:51,780 --> 00:36:52,620
you, but you have to,

1243
00:36:52,890 --> 00:36:53,790
you have to do that for yourself.

1244
00:36:53,790 --> 00:36:54,630
Otherwise, you know,

1245
00:36:54,630 --> 00:36:57,750
your business becomes this thing that you kind of present,

1246
00:36:57,870 --> 00:36:58,280
you know,

1247
00:36:58,770 --> 00:36:59,490
work this day.

1248
00:36:59,490 --> 00:36:59,790
I mean,

1249
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,920
isn't that why we became photographers and,

1250
00:37:02,010 --> 00:37:02,860
and our,

1251
00:37:02,860 --> 00:37:07,050
our own bosses so that we don't have to worry about

1252
00:37:07,050 --> 00:37:07,440
that anymore.

1253
00:37:07,710 --> 00:37:08,280
Yeah. What's,

1254
00:37:08,850 --> 00:37:09,990
what's that quote of,

1255
00:37:10,260 --> 00:37:15,600
I left a 40 hour work week working for someone else.

1256
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,250
So I could work 80 hours for myself.

1257
00:37:18,180 --> 00:37:19,260
I know because yeah.

1258
00:37:19,290 --> 00:37:22,380
That's why outsourcing setting boundaries,

1259
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:22,890
you know,

1260
00:37:23,340 --> 00:37:24,000
pulling things.

1261
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,130
So you don't have to hopefully work the 80 hours.

1262
00:37:26,130 --> 00:37:27,300
Cause like now I don't,

1263
00:37:27,870 --> 00:37:29,250
I definitely like when I first started,

1264
00:37:29,250 --> 00:37:32,520
I, I totally worked that if not more all the time.

1265
00:37:32,850 --> 00:37:36,210
And then I realized that I didn't have to do all

1266
00:37:36,210 --> 00:37:36,870
of that anymore.

1267
00:37:36,870 --> 00:37:37,770
Like I have,

1268
00:37:38,100 --> 00:37:38,370
you know,

1269
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,860
outsource and things like your bookkeeper and your CPA,

1270
00:37:40,860 --> 00:37:42,030
my retouching,

1271
00:37:42,270 --> 00:37:43,050
trying to think what else,

1272
00:37:43,050 --> 00:37:46,530
like I have a framer I use that makes it super

1273
00:37:46,530 --> 00:37:48,810
simple for me to get custom break pieces.

1274
00:37:50,010 --> 00:37:52,920
Just every little thing that I could do a graphic designer,

1275
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,710
because I would spend hours trying to come up with the

1276
00:37:55,710 --> 00:37:57,660
perfect marketing piece and then I scratch it.

1277
00:37:57,780 --> 00:37:58,620
Cause I hated it.

1278
00:37:58,890 --> 00:37:59,220
You know?

1279
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,890
And there's so many more options now like,

1280
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:02,880
Oh yeah.

1281
00:38:02,940 --> 00:38:06,780
With Like that design pickle and like Canva and just things

1282
00:38:06,780 --> 00:38:07,830
that you can do.

1283
00:38:08,580 --> 00:38:09,990
But you realize that you're not,

1284
00:38:10,770 --> 00:38:13,410
your business is not benefiting for you doing every little thing,

1285
00:38:13,980 --> 00:38:14,490
like right.

1286
00:38:14,580 --> 00:38:17,610
You're running yourself into the ground and probably not producing the

1287
00:38:17,610 --> 00:38:19,710
quality of work that you could,

1288
00:38:20,190 --> 00:38:22,020
if you could take a few of these things off your

1289
00:38:22,020 --> 00:38:23,010
plate. Yeah.

1290
00:38:23,190 --> 00:38:25,290
Yeah. And I think there becomes a time to like at

1291
00:38:25,290 --> 00:38:26,250
the beginning when you're like,

1292
00:38:26,250 --> 00:38:27,540
I don't have any income yet.

1293
00:38:27,540 --> 00:38:28,590
Like I'm bootstrapping.

1294
00:38:28,590 --> 00:38:30,270
Okay. You're cash poor.

1295
00:38:30,270 --> 00:38:31,350
And I mean,

1296
00:38:31,710 --> 00:38:33,450
none of us are time rich per se,

1297
00:38:33,450 --> 00:38:34,980
but you have more time than cash.

1298
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:36,880
Okay. It makes more sense to do that.

1299
00:38:37,270 --> 00:38:39,580
But as you start to have clients,

1300
00:38:39,580 --> 00:38:41,470
you start to have money coming into your business.

1301
00:38:41,980 --> 00:38:44,500
I think you should at least once a year,

1302
00:38:44,530 --> 00:38:47,860
if not once a quarter kind of sit down and like

1303
00:38:48,010 --> 00:38:50,770
make a note of what you do each week and then

1304
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,060
look at that and be like,

1305
00:38:52,060 --> 00:38:52,690
what do I,

1306
00:38:52,720 --> 00:38:54,430
what do I need to be doing on this list?

1307
00:38:54,430 --> 00:38:59,320
And what can I outsource or delegate or delete or like

1308
00:38:59,350 --> 00:39:00,190
automate or,

1309
00:39:00,190 --> 00:39:00,460
you know,

1310
00:39:00,460 --> 00:39:01,570
do something with,

1311
00:39:01,570 --> 00:39:03,610
so you don't have to physically do it.

1312
00:39:04,210 --> 00:39:08,050
And that can be personal things that can be work.

1313
00:39:08,050 --> 00:39:08,800
Things like,

1314
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:09,820
for instance,

1315
00:39:10,570 --> 00:39:10,870
you know,

1316
00:39:10,870 --> 00:39:14,530
like hiring someone to clean your house or having someone to

1317
00:39:14,530 --> 00:39:18,670
do the yard or I'm actually even considering retina are making

1318
00:39:18,670 --> 00:39:22,390
this list right now of like hiring like a college student,

1319
00:39:22,390 --> 00:39:25,660
like personal assistant for like three or four hours a week

1320
00:39:25,690 --> 00:39:29,380
just to like go return that thing to TJ max and

1321
00:39:29,380 --> 00:39:34,660
like make this reservation like just random personal nonsense.

1322
00:39:34,930 --> 00:39:35,320
You know,

1323
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:40,630
that, that I spend like yesterday I ran off to go

1324
00:39:40,630 --> 00:39:42,100
paddle boarding and I had to stop at the bank,

1325
00:39:42,100 --> 00:39:43,630
which I actually had to stop for,

1326
00:39:43,630 --> 00:39:44,350
for, you know,

1327
00:39:44,350 --> 00:39:49,090
an account thing and then go to the post office and

1328
00:39:49,090 --> 00:39:50,530
drop stuff off at Goodwill.

1329
00:39:50,530 --> 00:39:51,250
And so I'm like,

1330
00:39:52,420 --> 00:39:55,090
how much time am I spending doing all this stuff when

1331
00:39:55,090 --> 00:39:56,830
I have this giant list of things that I want to

1332
00:39:56,830 --> 00:39:58,900
do at home and for work.

1333
00:39:58,930 --> 00:40:00,850
So I think that's a great idea.

1334
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:03,410
I challenge this.

1335
00:40:03,570 --> 00:40:06,010
This is the challenge I'm throwing down for this podcast.

1336
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,440
You guys need to find one thing,

1337
00:40:08,770 --> 00:40:13,390
one thing in your life over the next week to just

1338
00:40:13,390 --> 00:40:14,530
stop doing something.

1339
00:40:14,530 --> 00:40:14,890
That's like,

1340
00:40:14,890 --> 00:40:15,910
why am I even doing this?

1341
00:40:15,910 --> 00:40:16,300
It's not,

1342
00:40:16,300 --> 00:40:17,200
it doesn't do anything,

1343
00:40:18,130 --> 00:40:22,840
something to delegate either to someone else in your house,

1344
00:40:23,500 --> 00:40:23,800
you know?

1345
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:24,850
Like, Hey kids,

1346
00:40:25,330 --> 00:40:26,500
unloading dishwasher,

1347
00:40:27,430 --> 00:40:27,670
you know,

1348
00:40:27,670 --> 00:40:30,160
things like that or outsource,

1349
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:30,460
you know,

1350
00:40:30,460 --> 00:40:31,050
you can outsource,

1351
00:40:31,070 --> 00:40:31,900
delegate to,

1352
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:33,790
or automate something.

1353
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,790
So is there something you're manually doing that you could like

1354
00:40:37,090 --> 00:40:38,560
do at once and set up a little,

1355
00:40:39,190 --> 00:40:41,770
some sort of automation that it can just happen on its

1356
00:40:41,770 --> 00:40:43,300
own? Yeah.

1357
00:40:43,390 --> 00:40:44,440
That's a good challenge.

1358
00:40:44,890 --> 00:40:45,490
I like it.

1359
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:46,090
I like it.

1360
00:40:46,090 --> 00:40:48,010
I should do that challenge for even more things.

1361
00:40:48,970 --> 00:40:51,520
Right. So much time you can free up like,

1362
00:40:51,910 --> 00:40:53,110
yeah. I mean little things,

1363
00:40:53,110 --> 00:40:55,480
like I just thinking back to my first year in business

1364
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,820
and I did all my bookkeeping and I hated doing it.

1365
00:40:57,820 --> 00:40:59,480
So I'd wait until I had like three or four months,

1366
00:40:59,500 --> 00:41:05,380
then I had to go through Terrible.

1367
00:41:05,380 --> 00:41:06,370
It was absolutely terrible.

1368
00:41:06,370 --> 00:41:06,880
And so,

1369
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,510
yeah, I think about all the time I wasted and now

1370
00:41:10,510 --> 00:41:13,150
I hire a bookkeeper and I just shoot her my stuff

1371
00:41:13,150 --> 00:41:14,560
and she sends it back and it's done.

1372
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,040
Yeah. So I mean just little things like that.

1373
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:18,430
It doesn't,

1374
00:41:18,460 --> 00:41:19,390
that was a big thing actually,

1375
00:41:19,390 --> 00:41:19,900
but right.

1376
00:41:20,020 --> 00:41:22,450
But I mean tiny little things you can take off your

1377
00:41:22,450 --> 00:41:23,280
plate. Even personally,

1378
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,570
I love the mentioned the personal stuff because you know,

1379
00:41:25,570 --> 00:41:26,920
we want our businesses to run smoothly,

1380
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,480
but we want our lives from Smith Lance,

1381
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,280
we help and that's okay.

1382
00:41:30,670 --> 00:41:32,650
Figure out where you need it the most and try to

1383
00:41:32,650 --> 00:41:33,950
get it Right.

1384
00:41:34,130 --> 00:41:36,200
And I think the personal stuff,

1385
00:41:36,230 --> 00:41:36,950
a lot of,

1386
00:41:36,950 --> 00:41:42,440
especially for women comes up as I'm not worthy of this,

1387
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:46,160
or people are gonna judge me and I'm sure,

1388
00:41:46,910 --> 00:41:48,710
sure. People would judge me if I'm like,

1389
00:41:48,740 --> 00:41:49,030
oh yeah,

1390
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,450
well hiring a personal assistant,

1391
00:41:50,900 --> 00:41:52,520
whatever. I don't care.

1392
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:53,660
Like it's amazing.

1393
00:41:55,070 --> 00:41:56,660
And, and it is,

1394
00:41:56,660 --> 00:41:58,190
it is truly a,

1395
00:41:58,190 --> 00:42:02,180
it, I think it is harder for women to do this.

1396
00:42:02,180 --> 00:42:03,350
Denise Duffield-Thomas,

1397
00:42:03,350 --> 00:42:03,830
you know,

1398
00:42:03,830 --> 00:42:04,900
of her the money mindset,

1399
00:42:04,910 --> 00:42:06,560
like she's big online educator.

1400
00:42:06,590 --> 00:42:07,130
She had,

1401
00:42:07,130 --> 00:42:08,360
I remember a blog post.

1402
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,010
She had about all the things,

1403
00:42:10,010 --> 00:42:15,800
which my like creme de LA creme big time dream.

1404
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,260
I know I've made it in life when I'm able to

1405
00:42:18,260 --> 00:42:20,390
hire like a personal chef.

1406
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,900
I looked into it and just because,

1407
00:42:24,740 --> 00:42:25,030
I mean,

1408
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:26,030
it would be amazing.

1409
00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:27,170
I just don't have time.

1410
00:42:27,170 --> 00:42:30,350
A lot of times now I have somebody come like once

1411
00:42:30,350 --> 00:42:32,000
a week and prepare like three dinners.

1412
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:33,590
I totally looked into it.

1413
00:42:33,590 --> 00:42:34,820
And then I never did anything about it,

1414
00:42:34,820 --> 00:42:35,300
but yeah,

1415
00:42:35,300 --> 00:42:35,870
it was cause it's,

1416
00:42:35,870 --> 00:42:36,110
I mean,

1417
00:42:36,110 --> 00:42:36,860
it's, you know,

1418
00:42:37,250 --> 00:42:38,540
you feel kind of bad.

1419
00:42:40,100 --> 00:42:40,820
Yeah. You do.

1420
00:42:40,820 --> 00:42:41,630
You feel kind of,

1421
00:42:41,630 --> 00:42:42,290
cause you're like,

1422
00:42:42,290 --> 00:42:43,520
we've been conditioned that like,

1423
00:42:43,790 --> 00:42:45,530
so, and you know,

1424
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:46,850
my husband's super helpful,

1425
00:42:46,850 --> 00:42:50,450
but it's still like so much stuff falls on the mom

1426
00:42:50,450 --> 00:42:52,970
on the woman of the house just to like keep it

1427
00:42:52,970 --> 00:42:54,350
all. Yeah.

1428
00:42:54,380 --> 00:42:55,760
Grocery shopping dinner.

1429
00:42:55,940 --> 00:42:56,770
Right, right.

1430
00:42:56,930 --> 00:42:58,940
Everybody has everything they need for school.

1431
00:42:58,940 --> 00:42:59,690
Yeah. No,

1432
00:42:59,690 --> 00:43:00,380
it's a lot.

1433
00:43:00,380 --> 00:43:02,300
And I felt bad recently.

1434
00:43:02,300 --> 00:43:05,210
Cause actually I looked into that and then I found this

1435
00:43:05,210 --> 00:43:08,960
place that has like pre-made dinners and they're really good.

1436
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,090
And I pick those up several times a week cause I

1437
00:43:11,090 --> 00:43:11,960
just can't do it all.

1438
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,180
And I felt bad in the beginning and now I'm like,

1439
00:43:14,390 --> 00:43:15,050
I don't feel bad.

1440
00:43:15,380 --> 00:43:16,760
Well, and now you look at it like,

1441
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,610
okay, now my family is going to get a healthier meal

1442
00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:22,460
than if I was going to like put together like,

1443
00:43:22,490 --> 00:43:25,580
oh, I guess we're having a pasta and some frozen meatballs

1444
00:43:25,580 --> 00:43:29,060
again. Here's a frozen pizza,

1445
00:43:30,500 --> 00:43:31,460
Right? Yeah.

1446
00:43:32,390 --> 00:43:32,840
Again kids,

1447
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:33,620
whole pizza bagels.

1448
00:43:34,310 --> 00:43:34,610
Oh no.

1449
00:43:34,610 --> 00:43:35,270
Right. So yeah.

1450
00:43:35,330 --> 00:43:37,040
It's I felt guilty in the beginning.

1451
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:37,640
And then I was like,

1452
00:43:37,670 --> 00:43:39,200
no, because it's easier for me.

1453
00:43:39,260 --> 00:43:41,570
It frees up time for other things.

1454
00:43:41,810 --> 00:43:42,710
And we're still having,

1455
00:43:42,710 --> 00:43:44,210
we still sit down and have dinner together.

1456
00:43:44,210 --> 00:43:45,290
It's not like we're missing right now.

1457
00:43:45,290 --> 00:43:45,770
Only dinners.

1458
00:43:45,770 --> 00:43:47,420
And it's I don't feel bad anymore.

1459
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:48,620
Yeah. No.

1460
00:43:48,650 --> 00:43:49,610
Good, good,

1461
00:43:49,610 --> 00:43:52,130
good. And you shouldn't and I think,

1462
00:43:52,340 --> 00:43:56,330
I think that it's really easy for us.

1463
00:43:56,570 --> 00:44:00,520
Like getting outsourcing our business is one hurdle of like that's,

1464
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:01,430
that's one,

1465
00:44:01,610 --> 00:44:02,060
you know,

1466
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:02,930
mindset of like,

1467
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:03,620
oh my God,

1468
00:44:03,620 --> 00:44:05,600
like, can I afford it done?

1469
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:06,110
And I'm like,

1470
00:44:06,110 --> 00:44:09,920
you're not bringing these outsourcers on as a paid position,

1471
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,000
like a W2.

1472
00:44:11,030 --> 00:44:12,560
Like you need to pay them every week.

1473
00:44:12,620 --> 00:44:15,650
Like you're paying them when you have project it's project based

1474
00:44:15,650 --> 00:44:18,950
employment. Like I have images to edit this week so I

1475
00:44:18,950 --> 00:44:19,520
will pay you.

1476
00:44:19,700 --> 00:44:20,390
Right. I don't.

1477
00:44:20,540 --> 00:44:21,320
So I'm not.

1478
00:44:21,380 --> 00:44:24,380
So that should be fairly easy to start to get over.

1479
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,670
But then the personal does become this whole other like major

1480
00:44:28,700 --> 00:44:29,510
guilt trip,

1481
00:44:29,810 --> 00:44:31,040
weird society,

1482
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:32,700
you know,

1483
00:44:32,700 --> 00:44:34,890
women are supposed to want to take care of their family.

1484
00:44:34,890 --> 00:44:36,480
Women are supposed to want to do the house.

1485
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,620
Women are supposed to do it all and call bullshit on

1486
00:44:40,620 --> 00:44:41,700
that. So,

1487
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:43,830
Because I don't understand,

1488
00:44:43,830 --> 00:44:44,910
but it's like your brain in our,

1489
00:44:44,940 --> 00:44:46,230
like in our,

1490
00:44:46,590 --> 00:44:47,130
I don't know.

1491
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,220
I I've just always,

1492
00:44:50,410 --> 00:44:50,790
it's like,

1493
00:44:50,910 --> 00:44:53,700
it's part of my job as a wife and a mother

1494
00:44:54,450 --> 00:44:56,850
here in the house to provide dinner,

1495
00:44:57,450 --> 00:44:58,710
to make sure things are clean,

1496
00:44:58,710 --> 00:45:00,540
make sure the kids have their stuff for school.

1497
00:45:00,570 --> 00:45:02,220
Make sure there's groceries in the house.

1498
00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:04,560
And on top of everything else I have to do,

1499
00:45:04,860 --> 00:45:05,670
it's a lot.

1500
00:45:06,090 --> 00:45:08,160
Yeah. I've got to make the doctor's appointments.

1501
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:09,270
I need to make sure that,

1502
00:45:09,300 --> 00:45:10,560
oh, the seasons are changing.

1503
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:11,700
What shorts still fit?

1504
00:45:12,030 --> 00:45:14,250
Like your shoes don't fit anymore.<inaudible>

1505
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:16,590
close to just random.

1506
00:45:20,610 --> 00:45:21,090
But anyway,

1507
00:45:21,090 --> 00:45:23,820
so back to this Denise Duffield Thomas blog post,

1508
00:45:24,090 --> 00:45:24,690
it was,

1509
00:45:25,380 --> 00:45:25,770
you know,

1510
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:30,000
she's doing a seven figure business and she has kids and

1511
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,160
she has a nanny for the kids.

1512
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:33,270
She has a chef,

1513
00:45:33,300 --> 00:45:35,790
she has someone like cleaning her house.

1514
00:45:35,970 --> 00:45:38,460
So she has all of this house like help.

1515
00:45:38,670 --> 00:45:40,410
And she openly said,

1516
00:45:40,410 --> 00:45:41,790
this is all the help I have.

1517
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,450
And here is all of the freaking pushback and here's all

1518
00:45:45,450 --> 00:45:46,170
of the crazy.

1519
00:45:46,170 --> 00:45:48,660
And like people wanted to eat her alive.

1520
00:45:48,690 --> 00:45:50,940
Like you why'd,

1521
00:45:50,940 --> 00:45:51,720
you have kids,

1522
00:45:51,720 --> 00:45:52,050
blah, blah,

1523
00:45:52,050 --> 00:45:52,560
blah. It's like,

1524
00:45:52,590 --> 00:45:53,700
because I'm a better mom.

1525
00:45:53,700 --> 00:45:55,260
And I can actually spend time with them.

1526
00:45:55,260 --> 00:45:57,510
If I can actually have structured work time,

1527
00:45:57,900 --> 00:46:00,960
then I can actually be present with them later.

1528
00:46:01,140 --> 00:46:03,720
And I don't have to spend my weekend cleaning the house

1529
00:46:03,720 --> 00:46:09,960
because I can actually spend my weekend with my kids When

1530
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,400
she, I don't have the private chef,

1531
00:46:11,940 --> 00:46:12,690
But I know that's,

1532
00:46:12,690 --> 00:46:13,260
that's why I said,

1533
00:46:13,260 --> 00:46:13,860
that's my dream.

1534
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:15,390
But I do have a nanny.

1535
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:16,020
I couldn't,

1536
00:46:16,050 --> 00:46:17,850
I couldn't work without a nanny.

1537
00:46:17,850 --> 00:46:21,600
I have a 16 month old Child right In school yet.

1538
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:22,590
She'll be in school in the fall.

1539
00:46:22,590 --> 00:46:23,400
But no,

1540
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,640
I D I've had an Annie's since I've had kids and

1541
00:46:26,670 --> 00:46:28,740
I never wanted to be that person because I felt like

1542
00:46:28,740 --> 00:46:29,700
there was a stigma of like,

1543
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:30,780
oh, you have an Annie,

1544
00:46:30,780 --> 00:46:33,090
like, you know what?

1545
00:46:33,090 --> 00:46:33,840
It is nice.

1546
00:46:33,870 --> 00:46:35,520
But it also allows me to work.

1547
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:37,740
I love my children.

1548
00:46:37,740 --> 00:46:39,270
It's not like I don't spend time with them.

1549
00:46:39,270 --> 00:46:40,980
It allows me to work during the hours.

1550
00:46:40,980 --> 00:46:43,530
We mentioned at the beginning interrupted.

1551
00:46:43,950 --> 00:46:45,480
And then I,

1552
00:46:45,630 --> 00:46:46,680
I do all the carpools.

1553
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:47,490
I love carpool.

1554
00:46:47,670 --> 00:46:47,880
You know,

1555
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,050
I took them to all their stuff.

1556
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:50,520
So I'm not like missing that stuff,

1557
00:46:50,550 --> 00:46:51,000
but I,

1558
00:46:51,300 --> 00:46:51,900
I couldn't,

1559
00:46:52,110 --> 00:46:55,260
I couldn't do what I do without that help until they're

1560
00:46:55,260 --> 00:46:55,950
fully in school,

1561
00:46:55,950 --> 00:46:57,990
which that starts at what like six,

1562
00:46:57,990 --> 00:46:59,700
where they actually have to go whole day.

1563
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,760
And so I'm not going to have that for awhile.

1564
00:47:03,150 --> 00:47:04,020
And you know,

1565
00:47:04,020 --> 00:47:05,280
I do have somebody to help me,

1566
00:47:05,310 --> 00:47:06,300
helps me clean the house too,

1567
00:47:06,300 --> 00:47:07,470
because I just,

1568
00:47:07,470 --> 00:47:08,130
I don't have time.

1569
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:09,840
Yeah. Yeah.

1570
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:10,410
I mean,

1571
00:47:10,650 --> 00:47:14,400
so I don't feel guilty about those two things anymore.

1572
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:15,060
I used to.

1573
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,360
Yeah. But In order to,

1574
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:18,930
you know,

1575
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:19,650
be able to work,

1576
00:47:19,650 --> 00:47:20,430
which I love to work.

1577
00:47:20,430 --> 00:47:21,630
I don't want to stop working.

1578
00:47:23,250 --> 00:47:25,980
I have to have that help right now until the kids

1579
00:47:25,980 --> 00:47:26,790
are, how old are your kids?

1580
00:47:26,790 --> 00:47:28,890
12 and Almost 12.

1581
00:47:28,890 --> 00:47:30,250
And Oh yeah.

1582
00:47:30,340 --> 00:47:31,060
Then you just,

1583
00:47:31,060 --> 00:47:31,360
you know,

1584
00:47:31,510 --> 00:47:32,320
don't have to worry.

1585
00:47:33,430 --> 00:47:33,970
Well, that's what,

1586
00:47:33,970 --> 00:47:37,060
like I no longer I do still make my son's lunch.

1587
00:47:37,090 --> 00:47:40,840
Cause he leaves for school at like 7 0 5.

1588
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,010
So it's super early.

1589
00:47:42,010 --> 00:47:43,210
But next year for middle school,

1590
00:47:43,210 --> 00:47:44,020
won't start till nine 15.

1591
00:47:44,020 --> 00:47:46,030
So then he's going to be making his own lunch.

1592
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:49,870
Like I have eight more weeks of lunch making duties,

1593
00:47:49,870 --> 00:47:52,780
which is like the other job that I absolutely hate is

1594
00:47:52,780 --> 00:47:53,350
lunch back.

1595
00:47:53,350 --> 00:47:54,340
Yes. It's the worst.

1596
00:47:54,340 --> 00:47:57,370
So the kids was so happy when Milo got to kindergarten

1597
00:47:57,370 --> 00:48:00,040
this year because they eat in the cafeteria and he is

1598
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,930
the pickiest of pickiest eaters.

1599
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:03,100
I don't have to worry that.

1600
00:48:03,130 --> 00:48:03,820
It's amazing.

1601
00:48:04,270 --> 00:48:05,200
Oh, that's nice.

1602
00:48:05,230 --> 00:48:06,340
Yeah. My kids are like,

1603
00:48:06,370 --> 00:48:08,050
ah, the school food's terrible.

1604
00:48:08,050 --> 00:48:09,250
They used to like it in Pittsburgh,

1605
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,100
but I don't know if they changed down here.

1606
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,670
I don't like the North Carolina school food.

1607
00:48:15,670 --> 00:48:15,970
It's just,

1608
00:48:15,970 --> 00:48:17,260
the little thing is like,

1609
00:48:17,260 --> 00:48:17,860
you know,

1610
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,600
I really feel your pain on the school lunch though.

1611
00:48:20,140 --> 00:48:23,820
I really The worst part of summer end.

1612
00:48:23,890 --> 00:48:24,280
And you're like,

1613
00:48:24,370 --> 00:48:25,900
oh, I gotta make lunches again,

1614
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:27,280
but they're going back to school.

1615
00:48:27,430 --> 00:48:29,410
Oh, conflicted.

1616
00:48:29,410 --> 00:48:30,190
How should I feel?

1617
00:48:30,790 --> 00:48:32,830
I can make a lunch if they're in school all day,

1618
00:48:34,570 --> 00:48:35,170
it's a big pain.

1619
00:48:35,170 --> 00:48:36,070
And it's those little things.

1620
00:48:36,070 --> 00:48:37,750
Like I have to make a snack every day and I

1621
00:48:37,750 --> 00:48:40,120
can't forget to make the snack and then just,

1622
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,010
yeah, managing all everybody else's schedules,

1623
00:48:42,010 --> 00:48:43,150
but Yeah.

1624
00:48:43,660 --> 00:48:45,070
What do you guys use?

1625
00:48:45,370 --> 00:48:49,210
Are you a digital calendar type person for manually managing those

1626
00:48:49,210 --> 00:48:50,800
day to day family schedules?

1627
00:48:51,190 --> 00:48:53,100
Yeah. I,

1628
00:48:53,190 --> 00:48:54,460
I used to have the,

1629
00:48:55,060 --> 00:48:55,720
the handwritten,

1630
00:48:55,720 --> 00:48:58,870
but then the nice thing with the so I'm I'm Mac

1631
00:48:58,870 --> 00:48:59,560
across the board.

1632
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,150
So I R I calendar,

1633
00:49:01,420 --> 00:49:03,100
but I have shared calendars.

1634
00:49:03,100 --> 00:49:06,520
So then I share them with 10 and it's really convenient.

1635
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,890
Cause like the kids have two separate baseball,

1636
00:49:08,890 --> 00:49:10,180
softball schedules right now.

1637
00:49:10,510 --> 00:49:12,940
And Ted's a coach for both teams.

1638
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:14,950
So he's really good also going on too.

1639
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,610
But I added in the shared calendar every game with the

1640
00:49:18,610 --> 00:49:19,870
field location,

1641
00:49:20,230 --> 00:49:22,630
we have something like if there's something at school that needs

1642
00:49:22,630 --> 00:49:22,990
to be up.

1643
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:24,460
So I don't even have to tell him it just pops

1644
00:49:24,460 --> 00:49:27,460
up on his calendar and it's so much easier that way.

1645
00:49:27,460 --> 00:49:27,970
But I,

1646
00:49:28,010 --> 00:49:31,150
I don't put in the kids drop-offs and pick-ups even though

1647
00:49:31,150 --> 00:49:33,610
I probably should on the shared calendar cause they're different every

1648
00:49:33,610 --> 00:49:34,480
day. And Ted's like,

1649
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:35,320
wait, wait,

1650
00:49:35,350 --> 00:49:37,150
which kid is out today at which time?

1651
00:49:37,590 --> 00:49:42,040
Like, I just remember those things Because like to,

1652
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:42,370
what is it?

1653
00:49:42,370 --> 00:49:44,380
Wednesday, Thursdays mile gets out at two 30.

1654
00:49:44,380 --> 00:49:45,790
Willy gets out at four 15,

1655
00:49:45,790 --> 00:49:46,780
but other days of the week,

1656
00:49:46,780 --> 00:49:48,190
they both get on three 15.

1657
00:49:48,190 --> 00:49:50,020
And That's funny.

1658
00:49:50,260 --> 00:49:51,640
I know when I go away for a week,

1659
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:55,000
I have like the select three page document of like Monday,

1660
00:49:56,740 --> 00:49:59,380
Tuesday. I literally read it.

1661
00:49:59,380 --> 00:50:00,430
I can write it out for 10.

1662
00:50:00,430 --> 00:50:02,170
I'm like drop-offs pickups.

1663
00:50:02,350 --> 00:50:03,640
They need snacks this day.

1664
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:07,240
They need cause he just,

1665
00:50:07,270 --> 00:50:08,440
and then he'll call me and be like,

1666
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:08,980
what do they have?

1667
00:50:08,980 --> 00:50:09,220
And like,

1668
00:50:09,220 --> 00:50:10,150
did you look at the sheet?

1669
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:13,630
And then one other thing though,

1670
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,850
about like being out of town and like not being able

1671
00:50:15,850 --> 00:50:17,080
to be here to manage it,

1672
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,000
I used to stress over it.

1673
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,070
Like, do I need to close out for the week?

1674
00:50:21,070 --> 00:50:22,870
And then I finally got to the point where I thought

1675
00:50:23,260 --> 00:50:24,250
Ted can handle it.

1676
00:50:24,370 --> 00:50:25,720
I'll give them the schedule.

1677
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:29,240
He'll be able to do snacks and uniforms and whatever it

1678
00:50:29,240 --> 00:50:30,680
is, I'm not going to worry about it.

1679
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:31,730
And I kind of,

1680
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,300
I think on some for work lately and I just kind

1681
00:50:35,300 --> 00:50:35,820
of, I,

1682
00:50:35,820 --> 00:50:38,330
I call and I check in and I don't worry about

1683
00:50:38,330 --> 00:50:39,950
pickups anymore because I just can't,

1684
00:50:39,950 --> 00:50:40,370
I'm not there.

1685
00:50:40,370 --> 00:50:41,240
There's nothing I can do.

1686
00:50:41,240 --> 00:50:42,770
So I kind of just let that go.

1687
00:50:43,310 --> 00:50:44,120
And that was hard.

1688
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:45,080
That was really hard.

1689
00:50:46,130 --> 00:50:46,970
Not my crucial,

1690
00:50:50,690 --> 00:50:52,430
Like it when I do so.

1691
00:50:52,460 --> 00:50:52,890
Yeah, Yeah,

1692
00:50:52,890 --> 00:50:53,510
yeah, no,

1693
00:50:53,510 --> 00:50:54,400
they'll figure it out there.

1694
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:55,310
They're Zack grown,

1695
00:50:55,310 --> 00:50:58,640
man. Yeah.

1696
00:51:01,430 --> 00:51:01,880
I love it.

1697
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:02,330
I love it.

1698
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:02,750
All right.

1699
00:51:02,750 --> 00:51:03,590
One last quick,

1700
00:51:03,590 --> 00:51:06,020
little point of day-to-day management.

1701
00:51:06,020 --> 00:51:09,200
Like when you sit down at your desk on like Tuesday

1702
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:10,850
morning, is there,

1703
00:51:10,850 --> 00:51:14,600
do you have like any good hacks for just like keeping

1704
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:18,260
your week on track of work stuff?

1705
00:51:18,530 --> 00:51:20,480
Yeah. So at the beginning of every week,

1706
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,450
I always look at my full week ahead and see what

1707
00:51:23,450 --> 00:51:24,050
I have coming up.

1708
00:51:24,050 --> 00:51:25,520
So I just kind of know in advance.

1709
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:26,750
Cause I hate to sit down and be like,

1710
00:51:26,870 --> 00:51:27,200
oh crap,

1711
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:27,530
I forgot.

1712
00:51:27,530 --> 00:51:28,070
I have a call.

1713
00:51:28,100 --> 00:51:28,340
You know,

1714
00:51:28,340 --> 00:51:30,770
I like to be ready to prepare for everything that I

1715
00:51:30,770 --> 00:51:31,490
have coming up.

1716
00:51:31,820 --> 00:51:33,110
But when I'm working at my computer,

1717
00:51:33,110 --> 00:51:34,330
I try not to get distracted.

1718
00:51:34,340 --> 00:51:36,200
Cause distraction is like the easiest.

1719
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:37,280
Like, you know,

1720
00:51:37,310 --> 00:51:39,410
if you're looking at something an ad pops up on,

1721
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:39,740
you know,

1722
00:51:40,100 --> 00:51:41,600
oh, I'm gonna go online shop for 30 minutes.

1723
00:51:41,630 --> 00:51:41,840
Oh no.

1724
00:51:42,900 --> 00:51:44,690
I typically I pull my calendar up.

1725
00:51:44,690 --> 00:51:45,800
I see what I have going on.

1726
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:50,120
I shut off my mail because my mail continues to pop

1727
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:51,230
up and I used to not do that.

1728
00:51:51,230 --> 00:51:53,570
Like, especially when I have calls and it was so distracting

1729
00:51:54,590 --> 00:51:55,850
and even just when I'm trying to work,

1730
00:51:55,850 --> 00:51:56,150
it's like,

1731
00:51:56,180 --> 00:51:58,010
oh, I'll just go respond to this email real quick.

1732
00:51:58,040 --> 00:51:59,450
And then you get totally sidetracked.

1733
00:51:59,450 --> 00:52:01,220
So everything I closed,

1734
00:52:01,220 --> 00:52:03,350
the message Notifications are terrible.

1735
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,170
And I literally sit there.

1736
00:52:06,170 --> 00:52:08,180
If I have something that I know is on my calendar

1737
00:52:08,180 --> 00:52:09,770
that I have to do and I turn everything off.

1738
00:52:09,770 --> 00:52:12,350
I will put Pandora on just so I have music or

1739
00:52:12,350 --> 00:52:14,630
some background and I try to knock it out.

1740
00:52:15,650 --> 00:52:16,580
I, I do use to,

1741
00:52:16,580 --> 00:52:17,000
when I,

1742
00:52:17,090 --> 00:52:18,500
when I used to really like,

1743
00:52:18,500 --> 00:52:20,690
I've gotten good at doing this now where I can just

1744
00:52:20,690 --> 00:52:21,530
sit there and do it.

1745
00:52:22,220 --> 00:52:24,050
But I used to use that tomato timer or the,

1746
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:25,580
whatever they call A Pomodoro.

1747
00:52:26,060 --> 00:52:28,760
And it helped me because it was like 30 minutes or

1748
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:29,330
whatever it is.

1749
00:52:29,660 --> 00:52:31,010
And I'm just gonna do this and I'm gonna take a

1750
00:52:31,010 --> 00:52:33,350
break. And then I Got to the point where I could

1751
00:52:33,350 --> 00:52:34,010
just do it,

1752
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:37,070
but I definitely plan my week out every like Sunday night

1753
00:52:37,220 --> 00:52:39,830
I look at the entire week and just kind of get

1754
00:52:39,830 --> 00:52:41,690
myself mentally ready for what I have.

1755
00:52:41,750 --> 00:52:45,030
Cause I know I'm very busy between yeah,

1756
00:52:45,060 --> 00:52:45,590
just like,

1757
00:52:45,650 --> 00:52:47,660
not just like personal stuff is super busy,

1758
00:52:47,660 --> 00:52:49,460
but like shooting for clients.

1759
00:52:49,460 --> 00:52:50,750
And then I have lots of calls,

1760
00:52:50,750 --> 00:52:51,620
which I love doing that,

1761
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:52,250
you know,

1762
00:52:52,250 --> 00:52:53,810
just being present there,

1763
00:52:54,710 --> 00:52:54,920
you know?

1764
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:55,280
So it's,

1765
00:52:55,310 --> 00:52:57,710
it's, I need to mentally know where my week is going

1766
00:52:57,830 --> 00:52:59,060
because otherwise I'll get overwhelmed.

1767
00:52:59,570 --> 00:53:00,350
Right? Yeah.

1768
00:53:00,470 --> 00:53:01,130
I'll do the same.

1769
00:53:01,130 --> 00:53:04,490
My Sunday night I sit down and then I have everything

1770
00:53:04,490 --> 00:53:05,360
on my I cow.

1771
00:53:05,570 --> 00:53:07,670
Then I have my calendar that I share with Brett.

1772
00:53:07,670 --> 00:53:09,320
And then I have like a business,

1773
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:10,010
one that I don't,

1774
00:53:10,010 --> 00:53:10,640
which is like,

1775
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:12,830
Hey, don't forget to pay estimated taxes,

1776
00:53:12,830 --> 00:53:13,970
whatever, like random stuff.

1777
00:53:13,970 --> 00:53:14,720
That's not appointments.

1778
00:53:14,750 --> 00:53:16,790
And then he has his calendar.

1779
00:53:16,790 --> 00:53:18,800
So we all have a gazillion calendars on there.

1780
00:53:19,130 --> 00:53:21,350
And there's a lot,

1781
00:53:21,380 --> 00:53:25,680
there's a lot of ICOs And I still don't understand why

1782
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,470
our school district doesn't have like the school I Cal that

1783
00:53:28,470 --> 00:53:30,240
I can just subscribe to every year.

1784
00:53:31,650 --> 00:53:34,440
Like it's not that hard And I have to search for

1785
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,480
the calendar and then it's like a PDF.

1786
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:37,620
So I have to manually put it on.

1787
00:53:38,210 --> 00:53:39,090
So annoying.

1788
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,940
Yeah. So I can outsource that to my future assistant.

1789
00:53:43,650 --> 00:53:45,210
Yes. God.

1790
00:53:45,210 --> 00:53:47,070
Think of all the things with an assistant that you could,

1791
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:48,210
you don't have to worry about.

1792
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,640
I mean the list and then it's like three hours a

1793
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,110
week. You'll get it all back.

1794
00:53:52,650 --> 00:53:54,810
Anyway. So Sunday night I sit down and I take it

1795
00:53:54,810 --> 00:53:56,790
from my digital calendar and then I use,

1796
00:53:56,790 --> 00:53:58,620
I've been loving the software,

1797
00:53:58,620 --> 00:53:59,790
tweak, tweak.

1798
00:54:01,230 --> 00:54:03,030
Somebody mentioned it on one of my calls.

1799
00:54:03,060 --> 00:54:04,200
I need to my God more.

1800
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:05,820
Cause I've heard that great things about tweak.

1801
00:54:06,180 --> 00:54:06,750
I love it.

1802
00:54:06,750 --> 00:54:07,260
I love it.

1803
00:54:07,500 --> 00:54:10,320
And so it's like a super simple,

1804
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:10,590
you know,

1805
00:54:10,590 --> 00:54:12,750
cause there's some of these time management apps and you're like,

1806
00:54:12,780 --> 00:54:15,810
I need to like take a whole course and a lot

1807
00:54:15,810 --> 00:54:17,970
of time to learn how to use this time management app.

1808
00:54:18,180 --> 00:54:19,920
This is like so clean.

1809
00:54:20,130 --> 00:54:22,680
And I literally just put my appointments in for the week

1810
00:54:22,710 --> 00:54:25,050
so I can kind of see exactly like the week on

1811
00:54:25,050 --> 00:54:25,830
one view.

1812
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:27,570
And then as the week happens,

1813
00:54:27,570 --> 00:54:30,150
I have all my projects under a column at the bottom.

1814
00:54:30,150 --> 00:54:32,250
So I can like open up conservation fund.

1815
00:54:32,430 --> 00:54:33,270
Here's what I need.

1816
00:54:33,270 --> 00:54:34,320
What's working on here.

1817
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:34,920
I can open up.

1818
00:54:34,950 --> 00:54:37,620
Cause I'm like running 37 businesses over here.

1819
00:54:41,910 --> 00:54:43,380
And so I have all those.

1820
00:54:43,380 --> 00:54:44,550
And then I have like,

1821
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,310
like my personal do's and then some business to dues.

1822
00:54:47,580 --> 00:54:48,420
And you know,

1823
00:54:48,420 --> 00:54:50,820
as I think of something randomly while I'm like in the

1824
00:54:50,820 --> 00:54:52,560
shower, out running errands,

1825
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:53,100
I can just like,

1826
00:54:53,130 --> 00:54:54,090
oh I just jump it,

1827
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,700
dump it on to tweak there and then I can move

1828
00:54:56,700 --> 00:54:57,840
it wherever it needs to be.

1829
00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:59,730
But that way it can get out of my head.

1830
00:54:59,730 --> 00:55:01,920
Cause I have found things just need to get out of

1831
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:03,630
my head as soon as they pop in or they're going

1832
00:55:03,630 --> 00:55:06,060
to be gone or I'm just going to feel completely stressed

1833
00:55:06,060 --> 00:55:08,640
out about it because I'm trying to manage all this stuff

1834
00:55:09,300 --> 00:55:10,260
without writing it down.

1835
00:55:10,650 --> 00:55:11,700
And that's the yeah.

1836
00:55:12,270 --> 00:55:14,130
Things when you think something you need to do and then

1837
00:55:14,130 --> 00:55:14,760
just gone.

1838
00:55:15,630 --> 00:55:16,650
Yeah. That's a great,

1839
00:55:16,650 --> 00:55:17,280
I'll have to look at that.

1840
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,230
Cause I usually put it down in a note on my

1841
00:55:19,230 --> 00:55:21,540
phone when I think it's too,

1842
00:55:21,540 --> 00:55:23,160
like if you're thinking I do that too,

1843
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:23,700
when I have like,

1844
00:55:25,170 --> 00:55:26,520
when I'm going to be speaking somewhere,

1845
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:27,420
I'll have this great thought,

1846
00:55:27,420 --> 00:55:28,710
like right when I go to bed,

1847
00:55:30,660 --> 00:55:31,350
cause I'll forget it.

1848
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:32,670
I'll wake up and go,

1849
00:55:33,180 --> 00:55:33,990
oh, that was such a good thing.

1850
00:55:33,990 --> 00:55:35,010
Well, what was it?

1851
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:35,820
I had no idea.

1852
00:55:38,730 --> 00:55:40,830
Brain is being pulled in a lot of different directions,

1853
00:55:40,830 --> 00:55:41,730
so Yeah.

1854
00:55:41,790 --> 00:55:42,930
Yeah for sure.

1855
00:55:43,620 --> 00:55:44,100
Well, good.

1856
00:55:44,100 --> 00:55:45,690
I, this was a great conversation.

1857
00:55:45,940 --> 00:55:49,530
I hope you guys got some good advice and don't forget

1858
00:55:49,530 --> 00:55:50,400
our challenge.

1859
00:55:50,850 --> 00:55:52,650
Let us know if you guys are in the hair of

1860
00:55:52,650 --> 00:55:53,670
the dog community,

1861
00:55:53,820 --> 00:55:54,780
community, that hair,

1862
00:55:54,780 --> 00:55:55,950
the Doug academy.com

1863
00:55:55,950 --> 00:55:57,000
free come join us,

1864
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:00,960
let us know what you are going to outsource,

1865
00:56:01,380 --> 00:56:04,020
delete or automate,

1866
00:56:05,250 --> 00:56:05,790
you know,

1867
00:56:06,090 --> 00:56:07,500
in your life this week,

1868
00:56:07,530 --> 00:56:08,670
personal or business,

1869
00:56:08,700 --> 00:56:11,250
whatever. And cause we want to know,

1870
00:56:11,340 --> 00:56:14,610
or you can let us know on social Instagram.

1871
00:56:14,670 --> 00:56:17,790
So for sure what and what not currently doing,

1872
00:56:17,790 --> 00:56:20,640
because some of the got some good ideas from Unical today

1873
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:21,600
on things I need to.

1874
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:23,610
Yeah, yeah,

1875
00:56:23,790 --> 00:56:25,300
yeah. I would love to know if you guys have any

1876
00:56:25,300 --> 00:56:27,880
awesome time-saving hacks or things that really work for you and

1877
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:28,690
your time management,

1878
00:56:28,750 --> 00:56:30,070
let us know.

1879
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:32,320
But Kim,

1880
00:56:32,470 --> 00:56:34,750
thank you so so much for being here.

1881
00:56:36,100 --> 00:56:37,420
People can find you in the academy,

1882
00:56:37,420 --> 00:56:41,290
but where else can they find you for your business page

1883
00:56:41,290 --> 00:56:42,040
and all that good stuff.

1884
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,410
So they can find me@kimhearts.com

1885
00:56:44,530 --> 00:56:46,150
and I've got a bunch of information on there.

1886
00:56:46,180 --> 00:56:47,530
Well, not only about my business,

1887
00:56:47,530 --> 00:56:51,340
but for other photographers and then obviously in the academy and

1888
00:56:51,340 --> 00:56:54,760
in elevate and PTP too.

1889
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:55,390
I do a lot of,

1890
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I do some speaking for PPA as well,

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so yeah.

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Nice. Awesome.

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Yeah. So I'm sure we'll have you back on the podcast

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again soon for your fourth appearance.

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All right,

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bye everybody.

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We'll see you next week.

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This was episode number one 40.

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