Getting Started with Off-Camera Flash with Kim Hartz

097 - Learning off-camera flash opens up a world of possibilities for your photography. Want images with more depth and dimension? Try off-camera flash. Want the freedom to shoot at 2pm on a sunny day, without your images looking dog-awful? Try off-camera flash!

This week, Elevate and Academy coach Kim Hartz joins me to demystify what is, for many photographers, an intimidating topic. We share the 3 simple steps to using a speedlight or strobe outdoors, discuss modifiers and mental blocks, and—we hope—leave you excited to start playing with off-camera flash.  

What To Listen For: 

• The low-cost strobe Kim started out with, and what she's using now
• How important is high-speed sync? (It depends on this X factor)
• The lighting setup that saves marriages
• Settings that keep your images from looking "flashy"
• How to MacGyver a light modifier with common kitchen items

And if this episode leaves you hungry for more, you’ll want to join Kim's upcoming Academy Accelerator course: Gaining Confidence with Off-Camera Flash. This four-week class includes weekly calls and homework assignments, so you'll finish the month knowing how to create stunning on-location portraits using off-camera flash. 

Resources From This Episode: 

• Kim's Academy Accelerator (Starts 9/8—registration now open!)
• Blair Phillips portable light-stand cart
• Hair of the Dog Academy (Doors open 9/2! Get on the waitlist HERE.)
• Hair of the Dog Facebook group
• Hair of the Dog Elevate coaching program

CONNECT + LEARN MORE:

Explore all things photography education at nicolebegleyedu.com

Ready to build a profitable photography business? Visit freedomfocusformula.com

Master the craft of pet photography at hairofthedogacademy.com

Follow along on Instagram - @nicolebegleyofficial 

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Welcome to the hair of the dog podcast.

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I'm Nicole Begley.

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And today we are talking with Kim Hartz from Kim Hartz

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photography. She's an academy coach and elevate coach and incredible business

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woman and a master at breaking down lighting with pet photography,

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whether that's studio lighting or off camera flash.

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And today we're talking about taking that flash outside with some

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off camera flash,

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and we are getting started with off-camera flash with Kim Hartz.

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You're going to love it.

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Stay tuned.

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Welcome to the hair of the dog podcast.

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If you're a pet photographer,

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ready to make more money and start living a life by

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And now your host,

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chocolate martini connoisseur,

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Nicole Begley.

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Hey everybody,

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Nicole here from hair of the dog.

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And I am back with a wonderful guest Kim Hartz from

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Kim heart's photography.

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She's also a coach in the hair of the dog academy

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and our elevate program.

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She's been on the podcast before and you guys know her

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in lover.

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Welcome back to the podcast,

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Kim. Good to see you.

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Good to see you too.

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Thanks for having me.

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Of course,

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of course.

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So, yeah,

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we were chatting about having you back on and wanted to

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talk a little bit about something that a lot of people

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want to kind of dabble with and play with and learn

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more about.

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And that is off camera flash.

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Oh yeah,

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no, I,

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I, I love off camera flash and a lot of people

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are very scared of it and they shouldn't be right.

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Right. It's not that hard.

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It's just,

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you gotta figure it out.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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It seems so overwhelming at first,

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because I think of just the large amounts of equipment out

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there and you're scared of picking the wrong thing and then,

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oh my gosh,

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how do I possibly get this balance and this and that

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and use it,

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what's the correct way or what's the right way.

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I just,

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and they get totally overwhelmed and shut down.

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And I remember when I was learning and you know,

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I was,

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it was really quite frankly just like learning to shoot my

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camera on manual when it first you're like,

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okay. So if I lower my shutter speed,

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I need to raise my ISO,

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wait, how?

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works and what affects what,

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and then all of a sudden,

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one day after you've been practicing for a little bit,

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it just clicks.

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oh wow,

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this now that was hard.

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This is so easy.

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Off-camera flash for me was the same exact way where it

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just like I was so in my head and thinking about

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a sudden it's like,

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oh, the light bulb,

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literally the light goes off.

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Right? No.

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I mean,

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and that's a great way to put it.

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It is very similar.

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you're learning anything new,

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you know,

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that you just have to practice and do,

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do your homework a little bit,

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figure out how it's supposed to work.

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Like say when I learned studio lighting,

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I really had to learn how to use my lights and

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learn how to I wanted the luck,

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you know,

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kind of what the lights look,

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what did I have to do?

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Same with the manual camera.

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oh, of course you just do this,

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right? Yeah.

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I know my camera's gotten to the point where people ask

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me, Hey,

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what button do you use for your back button focus?

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Let me hold your camera.

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Cause I literally don't know what button I press.

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I just to.

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That's, it's pretty funny how that works.

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So when I got a new camera,

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because I have a Nikon and I have a Sony,

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it's totally different,

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Yeah. So it's like,

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why did I do this?

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It's a good thing.

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there's a learning curve with everything.

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Yeah. What are you shooting with mostly now?

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Both. So I don't know why I do this,

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but I still shoot my Nikon in my studio.

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Sony because it's smaller.

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It's more compact.

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whole system,

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but I still love my Nikon,

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but then I kind of use the studio.

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It's a D four.

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It's huge.

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That's why I don't travel with it,

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but I need,

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I should probably get a new Nikon honestly,

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because it's super old and I just,

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there's so many great options out there now that are smaller.

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So we'll see.

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But I won't go mirrorless with Nikon Sony.

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like I'm just not smart.

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you just get comfortable with what you're comfortable with.

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for sure.

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I know I was so excited when on cannon came out

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with all their new<inaudible> and all their new mirrors line and

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yeah, I Tried to switch to Atlanta years ago and I

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just, I couldn't,

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I didn't like the feel of the Canon in my hand.

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it's very personal,

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I, you know,

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and the Canon has great products.

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I just couldn't,

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I just couldn't do it Probably the same way with my

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con. Cause it's like just different enough that you'd be holding

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it and use it.

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this is not what I'm used to.

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Exactly. Exactly.

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Yeah. Oh my goodness.

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Anyway, we're not talking about cameras.

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That sounds good.

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That's what happens on this podcast.

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Yeah. But anyway,

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we're talking about off-camera lighting,

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so maybe we can start off with why someone might want

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there's so many reasons.

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I'll just list them all out.

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it allows you flexibility to shoot anytime of day.

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whatever the hours for golden,

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I don't even know honestly anymore because I don't worry about

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lighting situation,

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which really adds a lot of flexibility to your scheduling.

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it allows to give your images a level of professionalism that

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more depth and texture in the pets for you're able to

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add a direction of light.

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an off-camera flash image.

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just a natural light Dino,

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depending on the situation,

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obviously natural light is gorgeous,

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but off camera flash can allow you to create a look

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like that when the lighting conditions are ideal,

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without it looking like you use flash.

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that's, the goal really is to be able to balance the

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flash and the ambient or natural light available to make it

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look like you didn't use it.

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that's always my goal.

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I don't want it to look like I used to light,

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but I want there to be something on there.

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oh, there's something about this image.

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the dog really pops from the background and you could see

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all the texture and the there's light in the eyes.

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know how to use off camera flash,

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you can walk into any light situation and be able to

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any time a day.

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it's, it's about being able to problem solve once you've know

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if I'm on location or in a client's home,

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I always bring a light because if,

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I always scout beforehand anyways,

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but you never know.

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oh, the light's not really great here,

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but if I put my light here,

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I can add light in and I can really make this

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work. So it really gives you a lot more capability to

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create really nice portraits without having to just worry about what's

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available and you know,

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that being your only option for light.

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I think that's important that people approach it.

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I know that's how I approach it is,

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you know,

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I, if the natural light is beautiful,

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I will 100% go with the natural light all day long,

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but sometimes you're in situations maybe,

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you're shooting.

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Like I had a client session that they wanted to shoot

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and it was like really kind of almost foresty.

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There was a little bit of open sky,

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but it was not ideal.

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So like just adding that little pop of light actually gives

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me proper lighting on my subject.

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So I don't have noisy images.

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It's not,

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you're not pulling up and like trying to fix this light

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and dodging and burning,

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like it can be just done in camera.

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Oh yeah.

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That's, that's huge.

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that's, I'm glad you brought that up because that's one of

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the great things about off-camera flash is it can be done.

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I mean,

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minor tweaks,

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but for the most part it's captured correctly,

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it looks beautiful and you don't have to spend time fixing

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things or,

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you know,

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I, I'm not a big fan of Photoshop.

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I think a lot of people know that I don't like

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to edit.

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I, I,

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it's not my thing.

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I like to get it right in camera and off camera

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flash really allows me to do that.

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Yeah. We don't make our money moving sliders.

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We make our money by producing a beautiful image.

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It's the exactly.

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Exactly. We can do that faster.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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The other time that comes to mind that it's like,

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you know,

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there's no way I could have created this image without using

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some additional light is when I was in New Zealand and

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we were,

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you know,

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kind of scouting,

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but we had some models with us when we were shooting

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for ourselves a little bit before we started teaching before the

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workshop started and we're up on this mountain and it's complete

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sidelight. So it's like three in the afternoon.

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So the sun is bright and it's coming from the side,

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but there's this whole mountain range in that direction.

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And I can't really move the mountains now,

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even if I came back during golden hour,

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it's still going to be the wrong direction of light.

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So, oh,

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boom. Enter just a little strobe there,

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balanced the light on the dog.

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And it's like,

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oh, look at this beautiful,

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gorgeous image that again needed very little Photoshop.

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I had to remove the light.

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So that was,

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it was fairly close to the dog.

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It's incredible what it allows you to be able to do

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that you couldn't do with just natural light.

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And then another situation like photographing at sunset where you want

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that beautiful,

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you know,

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all the colors,

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the clouds,

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but there's not enough light.

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Like in that situation,

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obviously you're going to know there's a light on it,

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but that's okay.

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That's the look you're getting that's,

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you know what you're getting into?

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I actually had a shoot recently with two English cream retrievers

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at sunset and it,

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it turned out gorgeous because I had a light and I

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was able to balance and I got the,

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I mean,

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the sky was gorgeous and yeah,

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I mean,

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you can't do that with natural light.

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Your dogs will be completely dark.

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Right. And yeah,

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so, but it's,

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it's definitely something that's,

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and it's the thing that I love about it.

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It's really not that difficult,

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you know,

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and it is overwhelmed with,

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oh my gosh,

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what equipment do I use?

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All these things.

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But when you really figure out the simple steps,

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like I,

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whenever I teach off camera flash,

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it's just very simple.

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Cause I mean,

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I don't want to overwhelm anybody glow myself,

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so, and you can tweak it based on your,

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you know,

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does your style and everything like that.

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But I mean,

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there's pretty just a few simple steps and that's it Quick

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and easy.

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So speaking of that different equipment,

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I mean,

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we have kind of strobes and,

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you know,

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flashes. And do you want to just talk real quick about

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when you might want to,

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you know,

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use each of those or what people might want to look

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for? Well,

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so There's a lot of different ways you can approach it

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and you know,

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you don't have to go out and buy thousands of dollars

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worth of equipment.

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You can start with,

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if you have a speed light,

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you can start with that.

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And all,

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you know,

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I started,

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when I,

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when I first started getting into off-camera flash,

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I used my Nikon speed light.

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And you do have to get,

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I mean,

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I would recommend like a little they're called rapid boxes.

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I think Westcott has one and it just has to have

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the hot shoe Mount and putting the key to off your

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flesh, obviously getting it off the camera.

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So you have to,

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you know,

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have a separate light stand and you know,

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there's little things,

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but you can start with something as basic as a speed

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bike. And obviously,

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like I said,

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rapid box and maybe a light stand and you probably will

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need some sort of connection,

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either a pocket wizard to your camera,

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or like a really long cable,

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depending on where you're going to put it.

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But speed lights.

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I used to speak like for years and it created beautiful

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images. The only issue that you come into is recycle times

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can be tricky and that you have to wait a lot

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longer versus if you were to use a strobe,

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but if you want to just start playing around with it,

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you know,

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you can easily and you have a Speedlight,

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you can easily do that.

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I mean,

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there were times where I didn't have soft box.

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I literally took a paper towel and a rubber band and

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wrapped around the top of it to diffuse the light.

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I mean,

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figure out what works.

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Sometimes it depends on where you are and what you,

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how much light you need.

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And a lot of times too,

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I'll say with the speed light,

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as you may have to be on full power,

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just because it doesn't have as much power as a stroke

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or something like that.

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But the key with any Optimer flash system is you do

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want to use it at manual mode,

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be at your speed,

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light or strobe or whatever,

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because you want to be able to control the light.

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You don't want it to do it's automatic,

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you know,

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TTL or anything like that through the lens.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Cause it would probably be pulling,

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it pulls I'm,

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you know,

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not the most technical gear head,

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like, but it's when you're metering,

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if you're on TTL.

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So you're metering on a white dog,

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it's picking the light based on that white.

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So it's going to not expose properly because it doesn't know

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the dog's white.

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It's trying to probably expose for a gray.

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Yeah. Typically TTL does not work for off-camera flash.

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You always want to be on manual,

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but you want to have the control over the light anyways.

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But I mean,

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like I said,

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I used that speed light for several years,

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until one time I was on a shoot and it overheated,

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it was in Houston,

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so hot and I just was making it work too hard.

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And I had to put it in a cooler to have

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it cool down and make small talk for like 20 minutes

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so that we could keep shooting.

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It was ridiculous.

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And after that,

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I, I kicked that speed light to the curb and moved

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on to a strobe.

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And then I see about strobes.

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If there's a wide variety of price ranges,

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you don't have to,

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you know,

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go with something.

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That's thousands of dollars to something that has enough light.

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You don't need tons of light either.

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So I went from the speed light to an alien B

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400. And that was,

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I think it's like a $240 light maybe.

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I mean,

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it's not ridiculous expensive.

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Of course there's things that come with it.

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Like obviously I wanted to fuse her.

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So I got the soft box.

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I had to get a remote battery pack,

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their mini vagabond,

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a speed light.

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I actually use a cart to turn it around.

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It's easier.

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And then obviously I've pocket wizards,

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which I would use in studio that I took with me.

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So that whole setup was probably about a thousand dollars,

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which is on the lower end.

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Probably like you wanted to go strobe,

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but I use that set up for years and beautiful,

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beautiful quality of light.

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Of course you need to learn how to use your baby,

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but with any light system,

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you're gonna have to learn how to use.

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Yeah. So I went with the alien V initially because it

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was much less expensive.

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I use pro photos in studio and I love them.

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And I've since,

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I mean,

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this is years ago.

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I've since upgraded,

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I use a pro photo B 10 now,

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and it's awesome because the battery,

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the battery pack is built in.

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It's super small.

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It's easy to travel with beautiful light obviously.

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And now there are triggers that you can put on your

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camera that speak directly to the light.

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So you can adjust the light without having to get up

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and move it.

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I mean,

510
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there's so many options out there go docs is a,

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is a one that a lot of people are getting.

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I honestly don't know a ton about Botox,

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but I know that the people I've talked to really happy

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with them,

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their costs,

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you know,

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good price.

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I think they're easy to use.

519
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I don't have experience with them,

520
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but I know a lot of people have used them and

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really enjoy them.

522
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Yeah. So,

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Yeah, but there's a lot of options and a lot of

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different price ranges.

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So you can find something that is works in your budget.

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Like you do not have to go out and buy a

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profile of Right.

528
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Yeah. Sorry.

529
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I just want to play.

530
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I'll go by that.

531
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Yeah. Why this almost probably $2,000

532
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light now.

533
00:16:03,550 --> 00:16:05,290
No, not necessary.

534
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Beautiful light love pro photo.

535
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Don't get me wrong.

536
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I mean,

537
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I have one.

538
00:16:09,690 --> 00:16:11,210
I was actually don't need to start there.

539
00:16:11,670 --> 00:16:12,010
Oh God,

540
00:16:12,010 --> 00:16:14,220
no, don't start there because I was on a shoot to

541
00:16:14,230 --> 00:16:16,030
always weigh down your lights too.

542
00:16:16,030 --> 00:16:16,600
When you're outside,

543
00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,310
you never know using my profile.

544
00:16:18,310 --> 00:16:18,820
It'll be 10,

545
00:16:18,820 --> 00:16:21,610
an umbrella and a gust of wind comes and boom,

546
00:16:21,610 --> 00:16:22,540
that thing hit the ground.

547
00:16:22,540 --> 00:16:23,020
Thank God.

548
00:16:23,020 --> 00:16:23,620
It was fine.

549
00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:25,630
Yeah. But you know,

550
00:16:25,900 --> 00:16:29,140
you don't want your very expensive light to eat it.

551
00:16:29,470 --> 00:16:32,050
Are you shooting With your lights by yourself or do you

552
00:16:32,050 --> 00:16:34,250
have, I Never used an assistant.

553
00:16:34,250 --> 00:16:37,900
I it's all me all the time and impressive.

554
00:16:37,930 --> 00:16:38,860
Well, I don't.

555
00:16:39,010 --> 00:16:40,720
Yeah. I think if you have an assistant,

556
00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:41,530
that's amazing.

557
00:16:41,710 --> 00:16:42,100
Oh my God.

558
00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,760
Yeah. Cause then the voice activated light stands my favorite.

559
00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:46,930
Right? I love it.

560
00:16:47,170 --> 00:16:48,820
So when I first started out,

561
00:16:49,180 --> 00:16:49,720
oh my God,

562
00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:50,260
your God,

563
00:16:50,260 --> 00:16:51,880
it's been like 11 years ago.

564
00:16:51,940 --> 00:16:53,500
I always loved lighting.

565
00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:57,100
And so I started with studio lights and natural light.

566
00:16:57,100 --> 00:17:00,640
And then I went quickly into off-camera flash and my husband

567
00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:04,180
would meet me at the Arboretum in his suit at like

568
00:17:04,210 --> 00:17:05,560
five o'clock after work.

569
00:17:05,620 --> 00:17:07,750
And he would hold my light for my sessions.

570
00:17:08,980 --> 00:17:09,610
I know.

571
00:17:09,610 --> 00:17:09,970
I know.

572
00:17:09,970 --> 00:17:13,180
But then it got to the point where he would go,

573
00:17:13,180 --> 00:17:14,350
man, that's a great image.

574
00:17:14,350 --> 00:17:16,310
Whoever held that light really knew what they were doing.

575
00:17:16,310 --> 00:17:16,630
And I'm like,

576
00:17:16,630 --> 00:17:18,130
really? I told you where to stand.

577
00:17:18,820 --> 00:17:19,810
I don't need the chatter,

578
00:17:20,110 --> 00:17:20,320
but no,

579
00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:21,970
he was super helpful and awesome.

580
00:17:21,970 --> 00:17:25,150
And, but it got to the point where with off camera

581
00:17:25,150 --> 00:17:26,320
flash, like I mentioned earlier,

582
00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,120
you can photograph anytime of day.

583
00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,910
And I didn't have kids when I opened my business.

584
00:17:31,750 --> 00:17:33,820
So five o'clock at night or whenever was fine,

585
00:17:34,090 --> 00:17:34,480
but now,

586
00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:34,690
you know,

587
00:17:34,690 --> 00:17:35,530
three kids later,

588
00:17:35,530 --> 00:17:36,400
I'm not doing that.

589
00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:37,810
Sorry. Yeah.

590
00:17:37,810 --> 00:17:39,910
Somebody's Got to watch the kids while you're off shooting.

591
00:17:40,120 --> 00:17:41,440
So yeah.

592
00:17:41,510 --> 00:17:42,550
It's insane.

593
00:17:42,550 --> 00:17:43,480
So I also,

594
00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,780
don't like to have to manage other people's schedules.

595
00:17:47,230 --> 00:17:49,830
It's so much easier for me if I can just say,

596
00:17:49,830 --> 00:17:51,270
yeah, I'm available this time.

597
00:17:51,270 --> 00:17:51,960
Let's book it.

598
00:17:52,530 --> 00:17:54,960
So that's one reason I just don't work with assistance,

599
00:17:54,990 --> 00:17:58,920
but I'm very transparent about how I work with my clients.

600
00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,140
So they know upfront that if it's in studio,

601
00:18:01,140 --> 00:18:02,970
like they'll be assisting me if they're not going to be

602
00:18:02,970 --> 00:18:04,170
in the images before,

603
00:18:04,170 --> 00:18:05,550
same thing on location.

604
00:18:05,550 --> 00:18:06,840
If they're not going to be in the images,

605
00:18:06,870 --> 00:18:07,650
even if they are,

606
00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,510
they're probably going to have to be wrangling the pet,

607
00:18:09,660 --> 00:18:11,100
but nobody's getting the light.

608
00:18:11,100 --> 00:18:14,340
It's literally on a cart weighted down and I just wheel

609
00:18:14,340 --> 00:18:17,910
it where I want it to go Low enough for the

610
00:18:17,910 --> 00:18:19,950
dogs. It does.

611
00:18:19,950 --> 00:18:20,310
But yeah,

612
00:18:20,310 --> 00:18:23,010
you do sometimes run into that issue and there's a lot

613
00:18:23,010 --> 00:18:24,990
of different ways you can approach it.

614
00:18:24,990 --> 00:18:27,090
So I have a cart and I don't know if they

615
00:18:27,090 --> 00:18:27,990
sell it anymore.

616
00:18:27,990 --> 00:18:30,630
I got it from Blair Phillips.

617
00:18:30,630 --> 00:18:31,440
He's a photographer,

618
00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:32,790
but he's a people photographer.

619
00:18:33,150 --> 00:18:36,330
And I saw an image in one year and I was

620
00:18:36,330 --> 00:18:36,870
like, oh my gosh,

621
00:18:36,870 --> 00:18:37,740
this is genius.

622
00:18:37,770 --> 00:18:41,340
And so it's like a Dolly and it has a light

623
00:18:41,340 --> 00:18:42,180
Hilton light stand,

624
00:18:42,180 --> 00:18:43,320
but I use the light stand.

625
00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,800
Like I'd never raise it because for dogs it lower.

626
00:18:47,220 --> 00:18:49,530
But so I've seen people take a Dolly and then take

627
00:18:49,530 --> 00:18:53,130
a monopod and attach it to the side so that it's

628
00:18:53,130 --> 00:18:54,060
even lower.

629
00:18:54,330 --> 00:18:56,550
So people make their own though.

630
00:18:56,630 --> 00:19:00,710
They have The little background stands to that run light stands.

631
00:19:00,710 --> 00:19:01,880
They're only like a foot high.

632
00:19:01,910 --> 00:19:02,650
Oh Yeah.

633
00:19:02,750 --> 00:19:03,710
Yeah. I mean,

634
00:19:03,710 --> 00:19:04,730
you don't have to use a car.

635
00:19:04,730 --> 00:19:05,690
You don't have to use a Dolly.

636
00:19:05,690 --> 00:19:06,140
But I mean,

637
00:19:06,140 --> 00:19:08,030
there are definitely ways to get the light lower.

638
00:19:08,030 --> 00:19:09,620
Like I have one of those background stands.

639
00:19:09,620 --> 00:19:12,560
You could easily use one of those on location,

640
00:19:12,950 --> 00:19:14,030
but the card is nice.

641
00:19:14,030 --> 00:19:17,480
Cause I got a big basket from container store that I

642
00:19:17,570 --> 00:19:18,200
attach on.

643
00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,960
So I put like my camera bag in there with the

644
00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,190
client's bug spray,

645
00:19:22,190 --> 00:19:24,650
whatever I need to weight it down.

646
00:19:24,860 --> 00:19:26,780
But then also it carries all my stuff,

647
00:19:26,810 --> 00:19:28,160
which is really nice.

648
00:19:28,790 --> 00:19:29,660
Yeah. So,

649
00:19:30,110 --> 00:19:30,350
you know,

650
00:19:30,350 --> 00:19:30,740
it's just,

651
00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:32,210
there's so many ways you can do it.

652
00:19:32,210 --> 00:19:33,920
And I've seen a lot of people just go to home

653
00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,740
Depot, buy a Dolly or like just like a little card

654
00:19:36,740 --> 00:19:38,630
and just make their own know.

655
00:19:38,660 --> 00:19:41,330
So I'm not horrible.

656
00:19:41,330 --> 00:19:42,140
I'd rather just buy it.

657
00:19:44,660 --> 00:19:45,620
I am not that handy.

658
00:19:45,620 --> 00:19:46,610
Neither is my husband.

659
00:19:46,650 --> 00:19:47,030
I'm just like,

660
00:19:47,090 --> 00:19:50,260
oh, the amount of time that it would take me to

661
00:19:50,270 --> 00:19:51,230
go figure it out.

662
00:19:51,230 --> 00:19:52,970
And the amount of things that I would buy that didn't

663
00:19:52,970 --> 00:19:54,140
work I'd have to return.

664
00:19:54,140 --> 00:19:54,710
And I mean,

665
00:19:55,010 --> 00:19:56,510
if I'm switching out a light switch,

666
00:19:56,540 --> 00:19:56,780
I mean,

667
00:19:56,780 --> 00:19:58,580
it's probably at least two trips to home Depot,

668
00:19:58,640 --> 00:19:59,480
if not three.

669
00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:00,560
So No,

670
00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:00,830
no, no.

671
00:20:00,890 --> 00:20:01,370
See I,

672
00:20:01,610 --> 00:20:03,830
and I'm all about outsourcing and you know,

673
00:20:03,830 --> 00:20:04,520
the cost,

674
00:20:04,610 --> 00:20:09,020
the time value of money and that it's probably more cost-effective

675
00:20:09,020 --> 00:20:09,860
for me to just buy it.

676
00:20:09,860 --> 00:20:10,310
And he does.

677
00:20:10,550 --> 00:20:11,210
Yeah. I mean,

678
00:20:11,220 --> 00:20:11,960
I hate to say it,

679
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,060
but we're not crafty like that.

680
00:20:14,810 --> 00:20:16,940
I wish I had worked on crafting in other ways,

681
00:20:16,940 --> 00:20:17,750
but not that way.

682
00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:19,580
So I love it.

683
00:20:19,890 --> 00:20:22,460
I love hearing you explain how you don't use an assistant

684
00:20:22,460 --> 00:20:26,540
because I think that is a mental block that a lot

685
00:20:26,540 --> 00:20:28,760
of people have before.

686
00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:29,150
They're like,

687
00:20:29,180 --> 00:20:30,800
oh, I would love to start use light,

688
00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,630
but I shoot by myself.

689
00:20:32,660 --> 00:20:33,980
I always shoot by myself too.

690
00:20:33,980 --> 00:20:34,910
Except I do.

691
00:20:34,910 --> 00:20:36,860
If I know I'm going to have a session,

692
00:20:36,860 --> 00:20:38,240
that's going to be using a lot of light.

693
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:39,170
Like, I don't know,

694
00:20:39,170 --> 00:20:42,260
a two o'clock in the afternoon session that I know my

695
00:20:42,260 --> 00:20:43,520
light's going to have to be used a lot.

696
00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,010
I will bring the system with me and I usually just

697
00:20:46,010 --> 00:20:47,500
hire another local photographer.

698
00:20:47,890 --> 00:20:48,910
Yeah. And like,

699
00:20:48,910 --> 00:20:49,150
you know,

700
00:20:49,150 --> 00:20:51,460
I schedule it based on my schedule and I put it

701
00:20:51,460 --> 00:20:52,810
out in our local photographer group.

702
00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:53,050
I'm like,

703
00:20:53,050 --> 00:20:54,370
Hey, who's available to assist me.

704
00:20:54,370 --> 00:20:54,820
And I just,

705
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:55,120
you know,

706
00:20:55,150 --> 00:20:56,640
pay them for the session,

707
00:20:56,660 --> 00:20:57,550
pay them for their time.

708
00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,950
And that's scary for me too.

709
00:20:59,980 --> 00:21:00,880
Yeah. Cause I know,

710
00:21:01,060 --> 00:21:01,210
I mean,

711
00:21:01,210 --> 00:21:03,460
my husband's super helpful and,

712
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,550
but I know the limits to our marriage,

713
00:21:06,580 --> 00:21:07,330
Kim and I know me.

714
00:21:08,370 --> 00:21:08,670
Oh no.

715
00:21:08,670 --> 00:21:09,660
We're way Past that.

716
00:21:09,660 --> 00:21:10,980
I can't ask Ted anymore.

717
00:21:11,360 --> 00:21:11,880
No, no.

718
00:21:12,660 --> 00:21:13,230
It's a fact that I,

719
00:21:13,230 --> 00:21:14,220
my kids are older now,

720
00:21:14,220 --> 00:21:14,970
but when they were little,

721
00:21:14,970 --> 00:21:16,590
like someone's got to watch the kids too.

722
00:21:17,580 --> 00:21:19,170
Yeah. We're still back there.

723
00:21:19,170 --> 00:21:19,680
I feel like,

724
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:20,250
because with,

725
00:21:20,790 --> 00:21:21,000
you know,

726
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,610
he's home now for the most part,

727
00:21:23,610 --> 00:21:25,290
just like he doesn't have to go back in the office

728
00:21:25,290 --> 00:21:25,890
yet. I'm like,

729
00:21:25,890 --> 00:21:28,260
okay, so I've got a call or I've got a shoot

730
00:21:28,260 --> 00:21:28,830
or whatever.

731
00:21:29,010 --> 00:21:29,430
And he's like,

732
00:21:29,730 --> 00:21:30,600
well I have to work too.

733
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:30,840
I'm like,

734
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:31,320
oh God,

735
00:21:31,980 --> 00:21:32,370
you know,

736
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:33,840
it's like,

737
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:35,610
I know we both have to work,

738
00:21:35,610 --> 00:21:36,360
but you know,

739
00:21:36,360 --> 00:21:38,400
finding someone and we have an eight month old.

740
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:39,030
So it's like,

741
00:21:39,750 --> 00:21:41,670
we have older kids that are self-sufficient and then,

742
00:21:41,850 --> 00:21:42,720
oh, we have a baby again.

743
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:44,730
But no,

744
00:21:44,730 --> 00:21:45,540
yeah, it's fine.

745
00:21:45,540 --> 00:21:46,140
That bouncy.

746
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:47,010
I don't even ask him.

747
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:47,530
I wouldn't,

748
00:21:47,580 --> 00:21:48,810
I mean I'd spend years.

749
00:21:49,230 --> 00:21:51,480
Yeah. Pinch.

750
00:21:51,510 --> 00:21:53,640
If I have to have him help every once in a

751
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,050
while. He's very good.

752
00:21:55,050 --> 00:21:57,300
He knows exactly what I want for handling and things like

753
00:21:57,300 --> 00:21:58,500
that. But I mean,

754
00:21:58,500 --> 00:22:01,260
it's usually like on a family dog shoot or something.

755
00:22:02,550 --> 00:22:03,690
Yeah. I love it.

756
00:22:03,900 --> 00:22:04,320
I love it.

757
00:22:04,470 --> 00:22:04,680
All right.

758
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,750
Let's jump back to our equipment.

759
00:22:07,050 --> 00:22:10,680
And so we talked about speed lights or strobes and,

760
00:22:10,710 --> 00:22:11,190
well actually,

761
00:22:11,190 --> 00:22:15,150
let me ask you this because on strobes you have,

762
00:22:15,150 --> 00:22:16,290
and I guess we lights too.

763
00:22:16,290 --> 00:22:18,330
You can have the option for high speed sync.

764
00:22:18,630 --> 00:22:20,130
How important is that?

765
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:21,510
If you're going to be shooting outside,

766
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,820
honestly, I never use high speed sync.

767
00:22:23,850 --> 00:22:26,760
I think it really depends on your style and how you

768
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:31,170
shoot. If you are trying to capture motion in full sun,

769
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:32,070
then yeah.

770
00:22:32,070 --> 00:22:33,540
You're going to need some high-speed sync,

771
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,470
but for the purposes of capturing a nice portrait,

772
00:22:38,370 --> 00:22:40,950
it's really not that important.

773
00:22:40,950 --> 00:22:44,640
It's a very important on picking your spot appropriately on where

774
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:45,480
you're photographing,

775
00:22:45,540 --> 00:22:48,120
because you don't want it to have the option to not

776
00:22:48,120 --> 00:22:48,690
be a full song.

777
00:22:48,690 --> 00:22:50,060
Obviously we don't want to be full sun.

778
00:22:50,090 --> 00:22:51,600
We want to be an open shade,

779
00:22:51,870 --> 00:22:54,060
which will allow us a lot more flexibility.

780
00:22:54,120 --> 00:22:54,690
But I think,

781
00:22:55,050 --> 00:22:55,560
you know,

782
00:22:55,650 --> 00:22:56,220
starting out,

783
00:22:56,220 --> 00:22:57,540
I would not worry about high speed sake.

784
00:22:57,540 --> 00:22:59,970
I think that's just one more thing to confuse yourself with

785
00:23:00,150 --> 00:23:01,890
personally, but then,

786
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:02,220
you know,

787
00:23:02,220 --> 00:23:04,110
if you're really interested and,

788
00:23:04,110 --> 00:23:04,560
and base it,

789
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,410
so high-speed safe just in case people don't know is it's

790
00:23:07,410 --> 00:23:07,980
where you can,

791
00:23:08,310 --> 00:23:09,750
you can shoot pass your,

792
00:23:09,930 --> 00:23:10,850
your cameras safe,

793
00:23:10,850 --> 00:23:11,730
speed, you know,

794
00:23:11,730 --> 00:23:14,160
where, where you can have higher shutter speeds basically.

795
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:15,690
So, so it really depends.

796
00:23:15,690 --> 00:23:16,590
Like if you're,

797
00:23:16,700 --> 00:23:17,160
like I said,

798
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,100
capturing motion or just shooting at a time of day to,

799
00:23:20,100 --> 00:23:21,840
to really need to have a faster shutter speed.

800
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:22,860
But like I said,

801
00:23:22,860 --> 00:23:25,950
I don't think I've ever used it honestly when using off-camera

802
00:23:25,950 --> 00:23:29,400
flash, but it's not also my style really.

803
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,010
I don't really ever do capture motion,

804
00:23:32,010 --> 00:23:32,880
like treat borrowing,

805
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,040
or if I do action shots,

806
00:23:35,130 --> 00:23:36,030
I use natural light.

807
00:23:36,030 --> 00:23:38,490
It's too difficult to try to place your light in the

808
00:23:38,490 --> 00:23:41,790
appropriate place and get it to flash at the appropriate time.

809
00:23:41,790 --> 00:23:43,740
If you're trying to capture a dog running,

810
00:23:43,740 --> 00:23:44,130
it's just,

811
00:23:44,190 --> 00:23:45,920
it's just very Right.

812
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:47,980
Especially without that voice activated.

813
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:49,090
Oh yeah.

814
00:23:49,180 --> 00:23:51,850
No. So I just don't even bother,

815
00:23:51,850 --> 00:23:54,040
but, but it's something to be aware of and to know

816
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:55,390
of that's out there,

817
00:23:56,770 --> 00:23:57,130
you know,

818
00:23:58,120 --> 00:24:01,420
That's the high-speed sync range for most cameras,

819
00:24:01,420 --> 00:24:02,960
usually 1,

820
00:24:02,990 --> 00:24:03,520
203, 1,

821
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:04,870
2 50th of a second,

822
00:24:04,870 --> 00:24:07,600
somewhere in that range and each camera might be a little

823
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,120
different. I actually use my highest speed sync.

824
00:24:10,330 --> 00:24:11,890
I'd say probably half the time.

825
00:24:12,310 --> 00:24:14,650
Cause I like to still shoot with a really shallow depth

826
00:24:14,650 --> 00:24:15,070
of field.

827
00:24:15,430 --> 00:24:16,750
Well, and that's another thing too.

828
00:24:16,750 --> 00:24:17,260
It depends,

829
00:24:17,260 --> 00:24:17,680
like I said,

830
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,810
your style and how you shoot for sure.

831
00:24:19,810 --> 00:24:22,330
So I don't toot very wide open.

832
00:24:23,530 --> 00:24:25,240
Typically I'm at like five,

833
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,430
six or eight and that seems,

834
00:24:27,490 --> 00:24:28,000
you know,

835
00:24:28,060 --> 00:24:29,260
cause people will be like,

836
00:24:29,260 --> 00:24:30,790
well, but what about the depth of field?

837
00:24:30,790 --> 00:24:32,230
And, and you know,

838
00:24:32,260 --> 00:24:34,000
I still get beautiful depth of field.

839
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,760
It's just making sure that my subject is far enough from

840
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:37,390
the background.

841
00:24:38,230 --> 00:24:39,970
There's all these little things to consider.

842
00:24:39,970 --> 00:24:41,500
And I like to shoot at that,

843
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:41,920
you know,

844
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,110
that aperture because I want to get,

845
00:24:44,110 --> 00:24:46,180
make sure that my dogs are completely in focus.

846
00:24:46,190 --> 00:24:47,380
If I have multiple dogs,

847
00:24:47,380 --> 00:24:50,290
I want to make sure that they're both in focus on

848
00:24:50,290 --> 00:24:50,860
and on and on,

849
00:24:50,860 --> 00:24:52,330
but that's also my style.

850
00:24:52,330 --> 00:24:54,430
So it is going to be so for your style,

851
00:24:54,430 --> 00:24:57,220
I mean high speed safe makes sense for mine.

852
00:24:57,220 --> 00:24:58,570
It doesn't yeah.

853
00:24:58,630 --> 00:24:59,710
What you can also,

854
00:24:59,710 --> 00:25:01,030
if you don't have high speed sync,

855
00:25:01,060 --> 00:25:02,140
if you're like looking at your stuff,

856
00:25:02,170 --> 00:25:02,440
you're like,

857
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:03,310
man, shoot,

858
00:25:03,370 --> 00:25:05,500
I should have bought one with high speed sync and you

859
00:25:05,500 --> 00:25:08,110
don't, you can grab a neutral density filter and that will

860
00:25:08,110 --> 00:25:11,020
just lessen light going into your camera.

861
00:25:11,020 --> 00:25:13,390
So you can keep your settings in a little bit more

862
00:25:14,230 --> 00:25:15,100
or where you want them.

863
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,380
So there's always so many different options out there.

864
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:18,700
Oh gosh.

865
00:25:18,700 --> 00:25:19,360
Yes. I mean,

866
00:25:19,360 --> 00:25:23,200
I actually was playing around recently with off-camera flash kind of

867
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:27,250
a bright day and I have a graduated filter and it's

868
00:25:27,250 --> 00:25:28,390
just a 50 50.

869
00:25:28,390 --> 00:25:29,230
And so I put,

870
00:25:29,470 --> 00:25:33,370
cause we were still having issues with getting the background.

871
00:25:33,810 --> 00:25:36,520
It was so bright getting it down enough without making,

872
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:37,570
even with off camera flash,

873
00:25:37,570 --> 00:25:39,040
getting the dog right enough.

874
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:40,270
And with the graduated filter,

875
00:25:40,270 --> 00:25:41,410
it made all the difference,

876
00:25:42,390 --> 00:25:43,720
Had a darker on the sky.

877
00:25:43,900 --> 00:25:46,360
Exactly. But then you run into the issue.

878
00:25:46,360 --> 00:25:48,700
If you start adjusting your camera to do portrait or landscape,

879
00:25:48,700 --> 00:25:48,910
it's like,

880
00:25:48,970 --> 00:25:49,270
oh wait,

881
00:25:49,270 --> 00:25:50,380
let me adjust the filter.

882
00:25:50,710 --> 00:25:52,240
So it's not ideal.

883
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,670
It was just kind of more of a see what would

884
00:25:54,670 --> 00:25:55,720
happen. Yeah.

885
00:25:56,500 --> 00:25:57,670
Yeah. Awesome.

886
00:25:57,940 --> 00:25:59,890
Let's talk modifiers because that's,

887
00:25:59,890 --> 00:26:00,130
you know,

888
00:26:00,130 --> 00:26:01,690
once you start to narrow down the equipment,

889
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,620
then we have all these modifiers or he'd hold jungle of

890
00:26:05,620 --> 00:26:06,920
modified. Oh yeah.

891
00:26:08,370 --> 00:26:08,830
A lot of your,

892
00:26:08,830 --> 00:26:09,700
some of your favorites.

893
00:26:10,210 --> 00:26:11,350
So with mine,

894
00:26:12,100 --> 00:26:13,210
oh, let me start from the beginning.

895
00:26:13,210 --> 00:26:14,320
Let's see what I used to speed light.

896
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,580
I used a rapid box,

897
00:26:15,700 --> 00:26:19,300
which was great and it's just like 12 by 12 ish.

898
00:26:20,170 --> 00:26:22,540
I think they come now like two by two feet,

899
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:23,950
a little bit bigger.

900
00:26:25,210 --> 00:26:28,000
And then when I went to the alien V I use

901
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,710
a three by four soft box.

902
00:26:31,100 --> 00:26:31,680
No I don't,

903
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:32,950
I don't necessarily recommend that.

904
00:26:33,010 --> 00:26:33,520
I just,

905
00:26:33,850 --> 00:26:34,870
I don't know why I wrote that.

906
00:26:35,140 --> 00:26:37,660
And now I use with the B 10,

907
00:26:37,660 --> 00:26:39,700
I use the beauty dish,

908
00:26:39,730 --> 00:26:40,570
the collapsible beauty,

909
00:26:40,570 --> 00:26:41,140
this which is,

910
00:26:41,140 --> 00:26:43,000
I think it's two feet wide and I have to do

911
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,710
silver interior trying to pick up this popular highlights in the

912
00:26:46,710 --> 00:26:48,960
Pittsburgh. But if I have a large group,

913
00:26:48,990 --> 00:26:49,740
I'll use an umbrella.

914
00:26:50,250 --> 00:26:51,240
It just depends.

915
00:26:51,690 --> 00:26:52,260
It's umbrella.

916
00:26:52,530 --> 00:26:55,610
Typically I will use a smaller,

917
00:26:55,650 --> 00:26:58,050
medium, and I just have these pro photo umbrellas that came

918
00:26:58,050 --> 00:27:00,960
with my D one air lighting kit that I bought 10

919
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:01,500
years ago.

920
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:03,210
But you,

921
00:27:03,420 --> 00:27:05,010
cause you don't want to have the lights not huge.

922
00:27:05,010 --> 00:27:06,540
So you don't want to use a model private it's too

923
00:27:06,540 --> 00:27:07,950
big because it will weigh it down.

924
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,900
But I don't use the umbrella a time.

925
00:27:09,900 --> 00:27:10,380
It's only,

926
00:27:10,380 --> 00:27:10,800
like I said,

927
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,140
if I have a pretty decent size group and then I,

928
00:27:13,620 --> 00:27:13,830
you know,

929
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,920
modify where I actually position the lights.

930
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,840
So I make sure everybody gets enough light getting technical about

931
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,910
that. But let's say if I have two dogs,

932
00:27:20,910 --> 00:27:22,710
typically I use the,

933
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,860
the classical beauty dish on the B 10 and that's it.

934
00:27:26,510 --> 00:27:28,160
Yeah. And if you have to do a group and you're

935
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:29,090
using that umbrella,

936
00:27:29,090 --> 00:27:32,720
are you shooting into the umbrella that then is bouncing back

937
00:27:32,900 --> 00:27:33,830
to the dogs?

938
00:27:33,830 --> 00:27:36,500
Or are you having like the top of the umbrella facing

939
00:27:36,500 --> 00:27:39,050
the dog shooting into the umbrella that goes through to the

940
00:27:39,050 --> 00:27:39,680
Dogs? No,

941
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:40,700
I bounced it out.

942
00:27:40,850 --> 00:27:41,470
Yeah. Yeah.

943
00:27:41,660 --> 00:27:44,300
There are some that have the diffusing panel on the front,

944
00:27:44,300 --> 00:27:48,230
which I actually just got a deep silver umbrella from pro

945
00:27:48,230 --> 00:27:49,850
photo where I put the diffuser.

946
00:27:49,850 --> 00:27:51,530
So it's like a big soft box basically.

947
00:27:51,980 --> 00:27:52,670
And so that one,

948
00:27:52,670 --> 00:27:53,630
I really liked a lot,

949
00:27:53,630 --> 00:27:55,970
but it's still bouncing for the back and it's just got

950
00:27:55,970 --> 00:27:56,810
a diffusion panel,

951
00:27:56,930 --> 00:27:57,350
so. Right,

952
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:58,100
right, right.

953
00:27:58,130 --> 00:27:59,180
Yeah. Oh my gosh.

954
00:27:59,180 --> 00:27:59,840
So many things.

955
00:27:59,930 --> 00:28:00,920
Yeah. I find them.

956
00:28:00,950 --> 00:28:03,230
I love that collapsible beauty dish from pro photo too.

957
00:28:03,230 --> 00:28:04,460
I use that a lot.

958
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,290
It's so easy to travel with.

959
00:28:06,290 --> 00:28:08,390
I have a hard shell one.

960
00:28:08,630 --> 00:28:08,960
You too,

961
00:28:08,970 --> 00:28:09,350
but that,

962
00:28:09,350 --> 00:28:12,710
but it's so much heavier And it's yeah,

963
00:28:13,070 --> 00:28:15,890
the collapsible one's so easy and so light.

964
00:28:15,890 --> 00:28:17,870
And then I have a gosh,

965
00:28:17,870 --> 00:28:18,470
what is it?

966
00:28:18,530 --> 00:28:21,140
It's a 30 inches like an opt-in box.

967
00:28:21,420 --> 00:28:22,610
Think it's like 30 inches.

968
00:28:23,330 --> 00:28:24,380
The sucker is big.

969
00:28:24,380 --> 00:28:25,010
You don't think,

970
00:28:25,010 --> 00:28:28,190
you don't think going from like the 22 inch or whatever

971
00:28:28,220 --> 00:28:30,080
collapsible to like another eight inches,

972
00:28:30,500 --> 00:28:32,090
but oh no,

973
00:28:32,090 --> 00:28:32,600
that's Large.

974
00:28:32,630 --> 00:28:36,050
Yeah. I mean the key to remember too is like,

975
00:28:36,050 --> 00:28:37,580
do you need that big of a modifier?

976
00:28:37,580 --> 00:28:39,170
Probably not really work.

977
00:28:39,530 --> 00:28:42,020
We're adding a little bit of light to what's already there,

978
00:28:42,020 --> 00:28:43,280
so you don't have to go crazy.

979
00:28:43,340 --> 00:28:43,790
You know?

980
00:28:43,790 --> 00:28:44,630
And so yeah,

981
00:28:44,660 --> 00:28:47,150
like my three by four soft box is definitely too big.

982
00:28:47,150 --> 00:28:47,560
I don't know.

983
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:48,890
I think I got that just cause I was like,

984
00:28:49,010 --> 00:28:51,560
oh, I'll just do a studio outside kind of thing.

985
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:52,460
But Yeah.

986
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:53,690
Well and you always hear,

987
00:28:53,690 --> 00:28:54,080
you know,

988
00:28:54,230 --> 00:28:55,550
bigger lightest signs,

989
00:28:55,550 --> 00:28:56,210
they're light.

990
00:28:56,210 --> 00:28:56,780
And so you're like,

991
00:28:56,810 --> 00:28:57,620
oh, you know,

992
00:28:57,620 --> 00:28:58,700
but yeah,

993
00:28:58,730 --> 00:29:04,610
there comes aside seismic Traveling with all of the alien bee

994
00:29:04,610 --> 00:29:06,530
stuff. Definitely way more stuff.

995
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:07,730
And with the pro photo,

996
00:29:07,730 --> 00:29:10,430
I could throw it all in one bag and it's I

997
00:29:10,430 --> 00:29:11,510
guess, fly with it.

998
00:29:11,540 --> 00:29:13,580
I can easily put it,

999
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:14,030
you know,

1000
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:15,200
take it anywhere.

1001
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,230
It's so nice for travel and compact.

1002
00:29:18,230 --> 00:29:19,640
So Nice.

1003
00:29:19,790 --> 00:29:20,930
Yes. I love it.

1004
00:29:21,050 --> 00:29:21,350
I love it.

1005
00:29:21,410 --> 00:29:22,070
All right.

1006
00:29:22,850 --> 00:29:26,060
So we've talked about the different kinds of flash.

1007
00:29:26,060 --> 00:29:27,890
We've talked about the modifiers.

1008
00:29:28,310 --> 00:29:31,010
Let's talk about just kind of getting started of that.

1009
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:31,700
Oh my gosh.

1010
00:29:31,910 --> 00:29:34,130
Yeah. I do want to get out there and practice.

1011
00:29:34,700 --> 00:29:36,920
Do you have advice for people that just,

1012
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:37,310
you know,

1013
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,060
just to help them get started playing around with this?

1014
00:29:41,350 --> 00:29:43,780
Sure. So let's see where to start.

1015
00:29:43,900 --> 00:29:44,290
I mean,

1016
00:29:44,290 --> 00:29:45,670
if you just be like,

1017
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:46,600
just start there,

1018
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,300
like, I don't want people to feel that they need to

1019
00:29:49,300 --> 00:29:51,220
go invest in a ton of equipment upfront.

1020
00:29:51,550 --> 00:29:52,930
You can also rent equipment.

1021
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,190
There's a lot of places just to,

1022
00:29:54,190 --> 00:29:54,910
just to test.

1023
00:29:55,270 --> 00:29:58,210
But so one of the biggest things when you're using off-camera

1024
00:29:58,210 --> 00:30:01,360
flash, so I like to tell people is don't go look

1025
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:02,920
for the best background,

1026
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:03,940
look for the best light,

1027
00:30:04,150 --> 00:30:05,230
because this is,

1028
00:30:05,260 --> 00:30:07,390
I mean with any even natural light shooting,

1029
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,620
because it all starts there figuring out once you figure out

1030
00:30:11,620 --> 00:30:13,120
your spot where you're going to photograph,

1031
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:14,800
and this is where scouting comes into play,

1032
00:30:16,450 --> 00:30:17,980
you want an area that's obviously,

1033
00:30:17,980 --> 00:30:18,700
if you can help it,

1034
00:30:18,700 --> 00:30:19,630
not in full shade,

1035
00:30:19,660 --> 00:30:21,100
not with a ton of dappled light,

1036
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:25,360
hopefully open shade where the background is not ridiculously bright because

1037
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:29,230
what we're trying to do is balance the ambient light with

1038
00:30:29,230 --> 00:30:29,800
the flash.

1039
00:30:29,830 --> 00:30:31,300
We don't want it to look flashy.

1040
00:30:31,810 --> 00:30:35,230
And so if you pick an area that is super contrast,

1041
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,020
if it has like ridiculous amount of bright light behind it,

1042
00:30:38,260 --> 00:30:39,490
but it's in shade,

1043
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,230
it's going to be really hard to balance that light.

1044
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,920
So start by giving yourself a break and picking a place

1045
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:45,460
that's kind of,

1046
00:30:45,940 --> 00:30:46,330
you know,

1047
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,100
doesn't have that giant contrast,

1048
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:49,390
but it's just a,

1049
00:30:49,390 --> 00:30:51,250
really a few simple steps.

1050
00:30:51,340 --> 00:30:52,870
So first of all,

1051
00:30:52,870 --> 00:30:53,050
you know,

1052
00:30:53,050 --> 00:30:56,560
we pick our spot and then what I do first is

1053
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:57,880
I need her for the background.

1054
00:30:58,540 --> 00:30:59,950
And because we want to make sure,

1055
00:30:59,950 --> 00:31:01,360
obviously that the background,

1056
00:31:01,570 --> 00:31:03,070
whether it's the sky or just,

1057
00:31:03,070 --> 00:31:06,040
maybe it's just a slightly brighter background or whatever it is

1058
00:31:06,340 --> 00:31:08,200
you want to make sure that that's exposed properly.

1059
00:31:08,290 --> 00:31:09,550
We don't want it to be blown out.

1060
00:31:09,550 --> 00:31:11,080
We want details in our highlights,

1061
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:11,830
in our shadows.

1062
00:31:12,220 --> 00:31:13,390
And so I always,

1063
00:31:13,570 --> 00:31:14,350
I basically,

1064
00:31:14,350 --> 00:31:16,560
what I do is I take a single point focus and

1065
00:31:16,570 --> 00:31:18,310
I focus on the area background and I need her in

1066
00:31:18,310 --> 00:31:19,270
camera. I mean,

1067
00:31:19,270 --> 00:31:20,830
it's not like rocket science,

1068
00:31:20,830 --> 00:31:22,170
like, I don't know,

1069
00:31:22,390 --> 00:31:23,980
I have a light meter and all this stuff now.

1070
00:31:24,460 --> 00:31:26,290
So, and I meet her in camera.

1071
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:28,990
And also we typically,

1072
00:31:28,990 --> 00:31:29,350
you know,

1073
00:31:29,710 --> 00:31:31,330
you mentioned noise earlier.

1074
00:31:31,540 --> 00:31:33,880
We don't want to have our ISO up at like,

1075
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:34,720
you know,

1076
00:31:34,870 --> 00:31:35,830
a thousand or whatever.

1077
00:31:35,830 --> 00:31:36,460
I typically,

1078
00:31:36,460 --> 00:31:37,540
when I shoot off to refresh,

1079
00:31:37,570 --> 00:31:40,960
keep it within 100 to 400 range.

1080
00:31:41,140 --> 00:31:44,050
So I always start at a hundred and you know,

1081
00:31:44,050 --> 00:31:45,640
so if I meet her for my background,

1082
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:50,050
whatever that may be typically just based on my style,

1083
00:31:50,050 --> 00:31:53,050
I like to keep my shutter speed around one,

1084
00:31:53,110 --> 00:31:54,460
120 fifth of a second.

1085
00:31:54,910 --> 00:31:56,530
And my avatar is usually about five,

1086
00:31:56,530 --> 00:31:57,130
six or eight.

1087
00:31:57,130 --> 00:31:58,990
Of course it depends on the lighting situation.

1088
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:00,280
But so let's say,

1089
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:01,750
so I need her for my background.

1090
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,570
And then based on the way I like to shoot it,

1091
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,360
I take my aperture and I drop it down on additional

1092
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,330
stuff to make it a little darker because I want my

1093
00:32:10,330 --> 00:32:11,440
subject to really pop.

1094
00:32:12,370 --> 00:32:16,330
And then I put my subject in there and I start

1095
00:32:16,630 --> 00:32:17,620
adjusting the light.

1096
00:32:17,860 --> 00:32:19,270
And this is where it's not,

1097
00:32:19,750 --> 00:32:21,010
it's not really like,

1098
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,450
and you just get to this amount.

1099
00:32:22,810 --> 00:32:25,210
This is where you have to play around with it.

1100
00:32:25,210 --> 00:32:27,280
And I do have to play around with it every time

1101
00:32:27,310 --> 00:32:28,030
I set it up.

1102
00:32:28,090 --> 00:32:31,090
Yep. And so you set it up and I always start

1103
00:32:31,090 --> 00:32:32,920
kinda like every light is different,

1104
00:32:32,950 --> 00:32:34,630
but I'll start at like a quarter power.

1105
00:32:35,410 --> 00:32:38,350
And I'll the key is not to don't get your subject

1106
00:32:38,350 --> 00:32:41,420
in place and start like trying to make expressions or get

1107
00:32:41,570 --> 00:32:44,270
no, we're testing the light and I'm walking my client through

1108
00:32:44,270 --> 00:32:45,080
this whole thing saying,

1109
00:32:45,470 --> 00:32:47,570
okay, so we're going to photograph here.

1110
00:32:47,570 --> 00:32:48,440
Let's put your dog right here.

1111
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,210
I'm just going to test the light first because I don't

1112
00:32:50,210 --> 00:32:51,580
want to waste no expressions.

1113
00:32:51,580 --> 00:32:52,700
Right. The light's not right.

1114
00:32:52,700 --> 00:32:56,570
Yeah. So I'll test quarter power check back on my camera.

1115
00:32:56,630 --> 00:32:57,470
Okay. Nope.

1116
00:32:57,530 --> 00:32:59,060
I need more than a male.

1117
00:32:59,090 --> 00:33:01,550
Bump it up to a half power test again.

1118
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:02,840
If it's good to go,

1119
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:03,680
we'll start shooting.

1120
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:04,310
If it's not,

1121
00:33:04,310 --> 00:33:06,140
I keep testing and I just very quickly,

1122
00:33:06,140 --> 00:33:06,830
I was like,

1123
00:33:07,300 --> 00:33:09,230
yeah, but then when you get the light,

1124
00:33:09,230 --> 00:33:10,130
right, then you can shoot.

1125
00:33:10,130 --> 00:33:11,150
But every time you move,

1126
00:33:11,180 --> 00:33:12,620
you probably gonna have to look at it again,

1127
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:14,300
but it's really,

1128
00:33:14,330 --> 00:33:15,950
but once you get comfortable with it,

1129
00:33:15,950 --> 00:33:18,530
just making sure you meet her for your background,

1130
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,050
I drop it down my aperture down a stop.

1131
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,340
You do not have to do that.

1132
00:33:22,490 --> 00:33:24,740
That's just a personal preference because I like my image is

1133
00:33:24,740 --> 00:33:26,030
a little darker to begin with.

1134
00:33:27,110 --> 00:33:27,950
They still have detail.

1135
00:33:27,950 --> 00:33:28,370
I just like,

1136
00:33:28,370 --> 00:33:28,940
I'm a little,

1137
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:29,140
you know,

1138
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:30,470
me, you see my studio stuff.

1139
00:33:30,470 --> 00:33:31,700
It's very mid to low key.

1140
00:33:31,700 --> 00:33:32,630
It's just how I like it.

1141
00:33:33,050 --> 00:33:35,330
And, and then I added in the light.

1142
00:33:35,510 --> 00:33:37,910
And so the one thing you have to remember though,

1143
00:33:38,030 --> 00:33:39,980
when, when it starts to look flashy,

1144
00:33:39,980 --> 00:33:43,160
it's probably because you're not letting in enough ambient light and

1145
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:44,810
your shutter speed is what controls that.

1146
00:33:45,230 --> 00:33:48,380
So by keeping my shutter speed about 125th of a second,

1147
00:33:48,950 --> 00:33:50,270
it allows me to let in enough,

1148
00:33:50,300 --> 00:33:50,840
ambient light,

1149
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,570
the closer you get to 200,

1150
00:33:52,820 --> 00:33:53,480
2 50,

1151
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,400
the darker it's going to get all over because there's not

1152
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:56,450
enough light coming through.

1153
00:33:56,450 --> 00:33:59,780
So if you find that it's looking really flashy,

1154
00:33:59,780 --> 00:34:00,980
there's, there's several things you can do.

1155
00:34:00,980 --> 00:34:02,510
And I liked how you mentioned earlier,

1156
00:34:02,630 --> 00:34:03,860
learning your manual camera,

1157
00:34:03,860 --> 00:34:05,480
because understanding how your ISO,

1158
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,780
your aperture and your shutter speed work together is really important

1159
00:34:08,780 --> 00:34:10,190
for understanding off-camera flash,

1160
00:34:10,730 --> 00:34:11,780
because you have to understand,

1161
00:34:11,780 --> 00:34:13,970
okay, if it's looking flashy,

1162
00:34:14,330 --> 00:34:15,290
it's too dark Oliver.

1163
00:34:15,290 --> 00:34:19,430
I probably need to have a slower shutter speed because I

1164
00:34:19,430 --> 00:34:20,510
need to let in more ambient.

1165
00:34:20,990 --> 00:34:22,190
Or if it's looking,

1166
00:34:22,190 --> 00:34:22,600
if I,

1167
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:23,030
you know,

1168
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,280
if I need more light on my subject,

1169
00:34:25,670 --> 00:34:27,410
well, I can either adjust my aperture.

1170
00:34:27,710 --> 00:34:29,360
I can adjust the power on the light.

1171
00:34:29,810 --> 00:34:33,320
I can physically move the light closer or further away.

1172
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,390
And if I need just more light overall,

1173
00:34:35,390 --> 00:34:37,130
well then maybe I need to adjust my ISO.

1174
00:34:37,550 --> 00:34:40,310
So there's all these things that you have to understand so

1175
00:34:40,310 --> 00:34:42,290
that when you're actually working with off camera flash,

1176
00:34:42,290 --> 00:34:43,220
you're not sitting there going,

1177
00:34:43,580 --> 00:34:44,720
okay, what controls?

1178
00:34:45,290 --> 00:34:46,400
Especially if you're in front of a class.

1179
00:34:46,700 --> 00:34:48,440
Yeah. So the whole process,

1180
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:48,650
I mean,

1181
00:34:48,650 --> 00:34:49,820
it took me a while to explain,

1182
00:34:49,820 --> 00:34:50,660
but at the same time,

1183
00:34:50,660 --> 00:34:51,860
like if I'm out there,

1184
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:53,060
I can do this really quick,

1185
00:34:53,090 --> 00:34:53,690
but I've done it.

1186
00:34:53,870 --> 00:34:54,140
I mean,

1187
00:34:54,140 --> 00:34:55,100
I can say how many times,

1188
00:34:55,100 --> 00:34:56,810
so understanding,

1189
00:34:57,050 --> 00:34:59,390
test all your stuff before you go out there and make

1190
00:34:59,390 --> 00:35:00,710
sure everything's going to be charged,

1191
00:35:03,110 --> 00:35:05,000
make sure your lights actually firing.

1192
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:05,750
I will never forget.

1193
00:35:05,750 --> 00:35:06,170
I was at a,

1194
00:35:07,010 --> 00:35:10,250
a tough shoot and I shot all these images and I

1195
00:35:10,250 --> 00:35:10,570
looked down,

1196
00:35:10,610 --> 00:35:10,940
I'm like,

1197
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,380
oh, I forgot to turn the light on.

1198
00:35:12,530 --> 00:35:13,730
Awesome. You know,

1199
00:35:14,090 --> 00:35:15,880
and we still make these mistakes in though.

1200
00:35:15,890 --> 00:35:18,380
We've been doing it for forever and it's just frustrating.

1201
00:35:18,380 --> 00:35:20,900
You make sure everything's or sometimes with the Speedlight the little

1202
00:35:20,900 --> 00:35:24,320
connector or at least mine always popped out always.

1203
00:35:25,010 --> 00:35:26,270
So, you know,

1204
00:35:26,660 --> 00:35:27,470
but, but really,

1205
00:35:27,470 --> 00:35:27,680
I mean,

1206
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:28,280
those are very,

1207
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:29,720
this three steps that I do,

1208
00:35:30,260 --> 00:35:30,560
you know,

1209
00:35:30,590 --> 00:35:31,700
and very simple,

1210
00:35:31,890 --> 00:35:33,530
but it's practice.

1211
00:35:33,590 --> 00:35:33,830
I mean,

1212
00:35:33,830 --> 00:35:35,810
you have to practice because I,

1213
00:35:36,050 --> 00:35:38,160
when I first start with off-camera flash to what it looks

1214
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:38,730
like now,

1215
00:35:39,240 --> 00:35:40,290
or did two different things,

1216
00:35:42,510 --> 00:35:43,250
It's for all of us.

1217
00:35:43,250 --> 00:35:44,720
Right. And even when we start shooting,

1218
00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:45,200
we're like,

1219
00:35:45,230 --> 00:35:46,340
oh, and you know,

1220
00:35:46,340 --> 00:35:47,630
you think when you're starting to like,

1221
00:35:47,660 --> 00:35:48,110
oh man,

1222
00:35:48,110 --> 00:35:49,310
this is my best picture ever.

1223
00:35:49,310 --> 00:35:50,150
This is awesome.

1224
00:35:50,150 --> 00:35:51,380
And then you look at it 10 years later,

1225
00:35:51,380 --> 00:35:51,650
you're like,

1226
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:52,130
oh my God,

1227
00:35:52,130 --> 00:35:53,150
someone paid me for that.

1228
00:35:53,150 --> 00:35:55,160
I feel like I should go give them their money back.

1229
00:35:55,550 --> 00:35:56,380
Right. No,

1230
00:35:56,390 --> 00:35:56,720
I mean,

1231
00:35:56,720 --> 00:35:58,550
I feel the same for some studio work.

1232
00:35:58,550 --> 00:36:00,500
There's one client that's come to me every year,

1233
00:36:00,500 --> 00:36:02,630
since I've been open and the stuff I gave them in

1234
00:36:02,630 --> 00:36:03,200
the beginning,

1235
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:03,500
I'm like,

1236
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,720
sorry, I won't say that to them.

1237
00:36:05,720 --> 00:36:07,250
But like it's embarrassing.

1238
00:36:07,250 --> 00:36:07,850
Right, Right,

1239
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:08,420
right, right.

1240
00:36:08,450 --> 00:36:09,800
Yeah. It just takes practice.

1241
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:10,760
And you guys really,

1242
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,770
truly, I do it the same way.

1243
00:36:12,770 --> 00:36:14,780
Just break it down of three steps,

1244
00:36:14,930 --> 00:36:16,340
expose for your background.

1245
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,860
Add light adjust light done.

1246
00:36:19,430 --> 00:36:20,090
Yeah. That's it.

1247
00:36:20,110 --> 00:36:21,200
That's it that's literally it.

1248
00:36:21,470 --> 00:36:21,920
I mean,

1249
00:36:22,250 --> 00:36:23,660
it's so simple.

1250
00:36:23,660 --> 00:36:24,920
And I think the key though,

1251
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,430
that a lot of people get hung up on is the

1252
00:36:28,430 --> 00:36:29,390
equipment, right?

1253
00:36:29,690 --> 00:36:31,430
The equipment can feel daunting,

1254
00:36:31,460 --> 00:36:36,350
but it's really a matter of picking a light source,

1255
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,290
learning how to use that light source and getting comfortable with

1256
00:36:39,290 --> 00:36:41,750
it. And I've worked with obviously,

1257
00:36:41,750 --> 00:36:41,990
I mean,

1258
00:36:41,990 --> 00:36:42,560
speed, light,

1259
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,120
different strokes over the years.

1260
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:48,200
But like when I teach workshops and we talk about studio

1261
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:48,740
lighting, they're like,

1262
00:36:48,740 --> 00:36:49,850
well, how does the light work?

1263
00:36:49,850 --> 00:36:51,830
Well, they all work in the same and that they have

1264
00:36:51,830 --> 00:36:53,960
power from zero to full power,

1265
00:36:54,230 --> 00:36:57,230
but the buttons like a slightly different whatever light you get,

1266
00:36:57,230 --> 00:36:58,970
you just need to familiarize yourself.

1267
00:36:58,970 --> 00:37:00,320
Then same with the camera.

1268
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,490
Like when I got the Sony,

1269
00:37:01,730 --> 00:37:04,430
I read the manual because I didn't know how to use

1270
00:37:04,430 --> 00:37:05,780
it. It's the same thing.

1271
00:37:06,020 --> 00:37:08,000
Take the time to understand your equipment.

1272
00:37:08,390 --> 00:37:11,150
And if you understand how to operate your equipment and you

1273
00:37:11,150 --> 00:37:13,010
follow those three simple steps,

1274
00:37:13,100 --> 00:37:14,060
it's really not that hard.

1275
00:37:14,750 --> 00:37:15,230
I love it.

1276
00:37:15,700 --> 00:37:16,000
I love it.

1277
00:37:16,130 --> 00:37:19,070
And just practice And it will literally be the light will

1278
00:37:19,070 --> 00:37:20,150
go off above your brain.

1279
00:37:20,150 --> 00:37:20,510
And you're like,

1280
00:37:20,570 --> 00:37:21,110
oh my gosh,

1281
00:37:21,110 --> 00:37:22,580
how did I ever think this was hard?

1282
00:37:23,090 --> 00:37:24,140
Right. I mean,

1283
00:37:24,140 --> 00:37:25,250
it's, it's pretty incredible.

1284
00:37:25,250 --> 00:37:26,480
Now. It's like off-camera flash.

1285
00:37:26,730 --> 00:37:29,420
Yeah. And once you understand it,

1286
00:37:29,420 --> 00:37:32,180
and once you see what it can do for that,

1287
00:37:32,210 --> 00:37:33,110
your flexibility,

1288
00:37:33,110 --> 00:37:33,470
what your,

1289
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,440
your end result of your work looks like your editing time.

1290
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,720
I, I don't know why you'd ever go back to just

1291
00:37:39,050 --> 00:37:39,920
being a natural life.

1292
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,720
Darfur. I still use natural light.

1293
00:37:41,750 --> 00:37:42,320
Don't get me wrong.

1294
00:37:42,590 --> 00:37:43,550
If it's beautiful.

1295
00:37:43,550 --> 00:37:44,810
I'm I don't need the light.

1296
00:37:44,990 --> 00:37:48,770
Right. But also I can't just hope and pray and fingers

1297
00:37:48,770 --> 00:37:49,970
crossed that it's gonna look good.

1298
00:37:50,660 --> 00:37:52,820
So that's why I always have that option available.

1299
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:53,750
Exactly. Yeah.

1300
00:37:53,750 --> 00:37:55,400
Well, if any of you guys are out there listening and

1301
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:56,000
you're thinking,

1302
00:37:56,060 --> 00:37:57,020
oh my goodness,

1303
00:37:57,020 --> 00:37:57,920
this sounds really fun.

1304
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,600
I do want to get out there and practice and I

1305
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:00,320
want to learn more,

1306
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:00,950
but oh man,

1307
00:38:00,950 --> 00:38:03,020
I'd love some feedback and some help with that.

1308
00:38:03,530 --> 00:38:07,400
Oh, Kim can help you out because in the hair of

1309
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:07,760
the dog,

1310
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,220
we were having our academy accelerators,

1311
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,410
which is open for academy members.

1312
00:38:12,410 --> 00:38:14,210
And also our community members,

1313
00:38:14,210 --> 00:38:16,550
academy members save a hundred dollars though,

1314
00:38:16,550 --> 00:38:17,900
because you guys are special,

1315
00:38:18,530 --> 00:38:19,610
but yeah.

1316
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,380
And it's open for anyone in the community.

1317
00:38:21,410 --> 00:38:25,640
And Kim is teaching one on gaining confidence with off-camera flash.

1318
00:38:25,910 --> 00:38:26,240
So Kim,

1319
00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:28,700
do you want to tell us about your accelerator real quick?

1320
00:38:28,910 --> 00:38:31,790
Sure. So I'm a super excited about this one because we

1321
00:38:31,790 --> 00:38:35,410
did an accelerator on studio life yeah.

1322
00:38:35,410 --> 00:38:35,920
In March.

1323
00:38:36,310 --> 00:38:38,200
And it was so fun.

1324
00:38:38,230 --> 00:38:39,100
And we,

1325
00:38:39,580 --> 00:38:40,890
I had great students.

1326
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,290
They were really excited to learn and we really helped with

1327
00:38:44,290 --> 00:38:46,450
studio lighting and they were all kind of asked for the

1328
00:38:46,450 --> 00:38:47,230
off-camera flash,

1329
00:38:47,230 --> 00:38:49,570
just kind of a 2.0

1330
00:38:49,570 --> 00:38:50,350
is what they were saying.

1331
00:38:50,710 --> 00:38:52,540
So because really,

1332
00:38:52,690 --> 00:38:53,110
like I said,

1333
00:38:53,110 --> 00:38:53,920
off camera flashes,

1334
00:38:53,950 --> 00:38:55,240
it's not that difficult,

1335
00:38:55,240 --> 00:38:57,070
but it's gaining that confidence.

1336
00:38:57,070 --> 00:38:58,420
And that's what I'm going to help you do in that

1337
00:38:58,420 --> 00:39:01,060
accelerator, by going over more in depth,

1338
00:39:01,090 --> 00:39:02,920
the different types of equipment,

1339
00:39:03,370 --> 00:39:05,740
the, what you need to get started,

1340
00:39:05,950 --> 00:39:09,130
we're actually have assignments where you actually go out and photograph

1341
00:39:09,190 --> 00:39:10,480
these with off-camera flash,

1342
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,240
where we do critiques to help you understand where we can

1343
00:39:13,240 --> 00:39:15,310
improve, where we can make our images stronger,

1344
00:39:15,310 --> 00:39:18,850
how we need to make adjustments and go over all these,

1345
00:39:18,940 --> 00:39:19,390
you know,

1346
00:39:19,660 --> 00:39:21,070
all the steps that we've talked about,

1347
00:39:21,070 --> 00:39:22,060
but obviously in more depth,

1348
00:39:22,090 --> 00:39:22,690
just to help you,

1349
00:39:22,690 --> 00:39:23,200
like I said,

1350
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,380
though, what it's called gain confidence with off camera flash,

1351
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,840
and I'm there to help you the whole,

1352
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you know,

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through the whole thing.

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And it's,

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it's, you know,

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I was really pleasantly surprised with how it went with the

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studio lighting accelerator.

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Cause I was kind of like,

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I don't know how it's going to translate because it's the

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zoom and Facebook group,

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but actually it's,

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it was great.

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And I feel like everybody left feeling really a lot more

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competent about their studio work,

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which is exactly what's going to happen with us.

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Camera flashes.

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Yeah. So excited.

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So Kim's class starts September 7th and it's four Tuesdays in

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a row and there's replays.

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If you can't make the call live and you can still

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submit your,

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your images for her to critique and it'll be so fun

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and applications are actually open.

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Now, if you guys want to jump in,

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there are small groups.

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So we're limited to 20 students only per accelerator.

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So it's a small group,

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so everyone can get the feedback that they're looking for and

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you know,

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and just get that support.

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And if you go to Hare,

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the dog academy.com/accelerator,

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you will find that.

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And we have,

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00:40:26,370 --> 00:40:30,060
yeah. Kim's is the off-camera flash mark Moffitt from dirty dog

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photography. She's also one of our elevate coaches is doing an

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00:40:33,240 --> 00:40:35,280
accelerator on inquiries,

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00:40:35,310 --> 00:40:38,100
getting your inquiry process like dialed in.

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It's so good.

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She did this with our elevate students earlier in the year

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and they loved it.

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And then Heather London is doing one in October about being

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more visible in your marketing.

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So those are all open.

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Now, if you go to hair of the dog academy.com/accelerator,

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you can see the details you can jump in and they're

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all limited to 20.

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So go grab your spot now.

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And if you guys are an academy member,

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just check the academy portal for your special academy member discount

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00:41:05,190 --> 00:41:06,540
code. But yeah,

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we'd love to see you in there.

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And Kim,

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00:41:07,890 --> 00:41:11,010
I am so excited to see the work that everyone in

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00:41:11,010 --> 00:41:12,930
your accelerator is going to produce.

1406
00:41:12,930 --> 00:41:17,010
Yeah. You had some awesome students in the studio,

1407
00:41:17,010 --> 00:41:18,120
one so fun,

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00:41:18,660 --> 00:41:20,280
but He was so involved,

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which is great.

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00:41:21,330 --> 00:41:21,750
I mean,

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and people were posting stuff that they did outside of the

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assignments in the Facebook group.

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And it was just,

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00:41:27,180 --> 00:41:28,320
it was really fun to see.

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00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:29,460
Yeah, I love it.

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00:41:29,580 --> 00:41:29,970
I love it.

1417
00:41:29,970 --> 00:41:32,100
Well, thanks so much for being here with us today,

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to talk about flash,

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00:41:33,770 --> 00:41:36,950
to get people hopefully inspired to get out there and just

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00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:38,660
play with the equipment that you have.

1421
00:41:38,660 --> 00:41:39,680
And if you don't have any,

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00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:40,820
you can rent some,

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00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:41,240
you know,

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00:41:41,240 --> 00:41:44,060
you can get started with a speed light for a couple

1425
00:41:44,060 --> 00:41:45,230
of hundred dollars for a speed,

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00:41:45,230 --> 00:41:47,600
light, a little rapid box and you know,

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00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,090
something to connect them and it doesn't have to cost a

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00:41:50,090 --> 00:41:52,130
fortune. And yeah,

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00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,380
we would love to see what you guys are creating.

1430
00:41:54,500 --> 00:41:56,630
And thanks again so much,

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00:41:56,660 --> 00:41:57,710
Kim for being Here with us.

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00:41:58,070 --> 00:41:58,880
Thanks for having me.

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00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,260
It was all fun as usual.

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00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:01,610
Awesome. All right.

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00:42:01,610 --> 00:42:02,630
Talk to you guys next week.

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00:42:03,530 --> 00:42:05,720
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00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,250
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00:42:43,250 --> 00:42:44,060
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