Freedom Focus Photography - previously the Hair of the Dog Podcast

Money Trigger SOS with Heather Lahtinen

January 11, 2022 Nicole Begley, Heather Lahtinen Episode 123
Freedom Focus Photography - previously the Hair of the Dog Podcast
Money Trigger SOS with Heather Lahtinen
Show Notes Transcript

123 - This week, Heather's in a prison of her own making, and I attempt to help with her jailbreak. The topic of discussion is a $35,000 Hermès purse, but the implications go far beyond that.  

Join us for an emotion-packed episode on judgment, shame spirals, and why 2022 Heather is having a good laugh at 2018 Heather's expense. 

What To Listen For: 

  • Why I diagnose Heather with a "value conflict"...
  • …and why she told me I'm completely insane
  • What prompted Heather to pace like a caged lion…
  • …and decide she'd rather be a robot than a human
  • And, a $100,000 challenge for you, dear listener

In other news, have you made the move yet to our new Hair of the Dog community? The party's over on Circle now, and by all accounts it's a rager! (But not in the sense of, like, raging about a wildly overpriced handbag, à la Heather.) 

Resources From This Episode: 

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Welcome to the hair of the dog podcast.

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I'm your host,

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Nicole Begley.

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And today's episode is an emergency S O S call from

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your friend and mine,

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Heather Lahtinen,

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about a serious money trigger she encountered over the holidays and

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she needed some emergency coaching.

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I think you're going to love our conversation.

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So stay tuned.

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Welcome to the hair of the dog podcast.

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If you're a pet photographer,

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ready to make more money and start living a life by

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your design,

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you've come to the right place.

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And now your host,

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pet photographer,

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travel addict,

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chocolate martini connoisseur,

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Nicole Begley.

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Hi everyone.

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This is Heather Lahtinen from hair of the dog,

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and I am requesting an emergency SOS call with my friend

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Nicole Begley,

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because I have a money situation and money trigger that needs

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to be dealt with immediately.

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Nicole, can you help me?

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Yes. Hey everybody,

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Nicole here from hair of the dog.

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Thank you again for joining us for another podcast episode.

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This is pretty funny.

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This is our second day back in the office after actually

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it's really kind of the first cause the kids didn't have

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school yesterday,

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so I got some stuff done,

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but that doesn't really count.

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So today is really our first day back in the office.

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And once I got back into town from Florida,

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I got this boxer from Heather and she's like,

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Hey Nicole,

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I need some coaching.

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I need a stat and we should do it on a

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podcast episode.

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So I'm like,

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yeah. Awesome.

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I have no idea what Heather's about to tell me,

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but we often love to just like talk about,

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Hey, had a random money trigger today,

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or we'll help coach each other through random things,

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such as one,

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Heather needed a new car,

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which I'm actually,

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I need to go order a new truck and I'm still

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having some hesitation with that is just so stinking expensive for

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my final thing is going to get any cheaper anyway.

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So that's,

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it's not about my truck,

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Heather, let's talk about your money situation.

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What happened?

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Oh my gosh.

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I can't wait to tell you this story.

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This really was an emergency.

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I mean,

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I had this money trigger and let me just say that

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for everyone listening,

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and we've gone through this money series,

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these triggers will never go away.

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You know,

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the key is I recognized that when it happened,

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so the first step in this money training is to recognize

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when something triggers you and dive into it.

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So I was mindful.

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I recognize what was happening.

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My problem,

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Nicole, what I need help with is how to process it,

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how to work through it.

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So like I get it.

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I was triggered by it.

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I understand these are my issues,

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but then I don't know if anyone can relate.

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Do you ever feel this way to ever get like frustrated?

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Like, yeah,

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I know I need to process this or work through this.

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I just don't know.

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How does that happen to you?

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Yeah, A hundred percent.

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I think that happens is a lot.

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Well, even when the photography it's like,

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Hey, we need to show up in your business.

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Okay. Hi.

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Oh, I read all of these personal growth books and they

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spend, you know,

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nine tenths of the book convincing you,

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why you need to buy into their theory.

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And in the whole time I'm saying,

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you guys,

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I get it.

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I get it.

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I'm in,

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I'm in tell me how where's the hell.

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I'm just a very tactical person.

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And I like to jump right into solution road.

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And so the problem is it was very difficult to coach

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oneself. Oh yeah.

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And I think the other problem is that when we're talking

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about these things that are a little bit more esoteric,

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I guess that there isn't a straight,

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okay, you log into this website and you put in your

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information and outcomes,

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your plan,

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like it it's,

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it's like that be,

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do have you hear it and you,

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and you know what you should be doing,

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but it's still hard.

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And you're like,

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well, well,

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how exactly.

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And I think it just comes with recognizing things,

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asking yourself different questions and just trying to live from this

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place for any of you guys that missed our,

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actually it was the last episode last week,

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which is actually today because the recording that January 4th episode

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that you and I talk about planning,

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the biggest hack that came out of that for me,

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which has been life-changing so far.

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I mean,

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granted I was on vacation and I had more time and

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it was warm out and flat out.

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So I did a lot of walking and biking and I

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was exercising every day.

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I was asking myself,

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you know,

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if I was someone that took care of myself or ate

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healthier, who would I be?

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I still enjoyed some cookies and I sure enjoyed some chocolate

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cake. I'm not gonna lie.

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And I still enjoyed a regular martini with my mom,

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but, but I was making much better decisions and that little

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trick, because for the longest time,

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for years,

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years, I've been hearing,

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I'm going to have to be that person.

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You just have to,

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how you just be that person you just do,

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you just be by,

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you know,

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whatever it can just be and then do.

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But just the way you said it just kind of flipped

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it. So I think that is kind of the key on

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these. How is sometimes you just need somebody else say something

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in a way that you're like,

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oh, that makes sense.

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Right? Yeah.

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So it's a way,

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like, I haven't thought of it that way before,

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you know,

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when you have that moment,

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it's it's nuanced,

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I think is what you were trying to say,

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you know,

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asking yourself what would a healthy person do here?

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And then you make better decisions.

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So I'm asking myself as a,

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and I'm going to share this money trigger in just a

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moment. But I was asking myself,

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well, what would a wealthy person be doing right now?

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What would they be thinking?

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And how would they be responding to this?

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Because I clearly knew that my reaction was unhealthy.

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Okay. So I don't know if you know about this genre,

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but there are a lot of YouTubers.

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They're beauty and fashion bloggers.

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Are you familiar with this area?

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I don't think it existed.

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I know they're saying a lot of people in that space,

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but I don't really follow it because if you guys can

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see the video right now and you can see the migraines,

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like an inch and a half deep in my roots,

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that's not until next week,

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but anyway,

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yeah. I need some fashion and beauty blogging.

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I didn't think this was your Shondra,

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but there are a few that I follow because I like

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to learn about fashion and makeup and that kind of thing.

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And that's fine,

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but there's one in particular who posted a video,

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she's a very popular on YouTube.

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And actually,

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I didn't know this until recently.

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She actually lives about 45 minutes from me,

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which is very strange.

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Yeah. That was unusual In Western Pennsylvania,

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Pittsburgh. This is what I'm saying.

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Like, if you understand Pittsburgh is not exactly a Mecca for

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money, there's money,

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for sure.

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But anyway,

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so she's a very popular YouTuber.

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She has millions of subscribers.

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So she clearly does very well.

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She's fun.

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She's lively.

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I just really like her.

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I really like her content.

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I watch her for like new trends and fashion or Amazon

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finds or these kinds of things.

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She posted a video right after Christmas and it was entitled

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what I got for Christmas or something similar to that.

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I was like,

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oh, it'd be really interested to see what she got.

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So she starts,

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this video is pretty short and okay,

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let me preface this by saying,

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I like this person.

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I follow her.

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I will continue to follow her.

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This is a hundred percent of Heather issue.

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Anybody else?

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This is,

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this is my issue.

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How you,

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yes. How you're acting.

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Right. So,

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okay. She pulls out this box,

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which I guess a lot of people know this box.

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I do not,

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because this is going to show you how little I know

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about high end fashion or designers.

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I just,

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I'm just not in that realm.

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It doesn't appeal to me at all.

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You know,

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like we had talked previously about purses and stuff like that.

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Okay. She pulls out this box and I'm sure everybody watching

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that knows would be like,

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oh, that box.

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And I'm like,

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I don't even know what that means.

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You know,

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she got a purse.

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She got,

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she bought herself a purse for Christmas and it was her

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treat to herself.

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And it was like,

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oh, that's nice.

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And she pulls out this purse and it's just super average

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size, like not a big bag,

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just a regular purse like anybody would have,

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but the designer listened.

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Forgive me.

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I don't even know if I'm pronouncing it correctly because this

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is how little It's called.

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I can't help you either get mad,

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spending $30 on a purse from target.

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Yeah. So it's air mez.

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Have you heard?

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Okay. Okay.

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It looks like it's spelled H E R M E S.

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It looks like I forget what that brand,

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because they are popular in the horse world and they have

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a force on their logo,

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I believe.

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And, and it's,

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you know,

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there's, there's many different levels in the horse sport industry and

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there's a lot of people that play in that sandbox.

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I don't play in that sandbox.

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I just want the horse.

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I don't care about fashion,

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but anyway,

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I thought,

273
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I always thought it was Hermes.

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I don't know.

275
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People are laughing at us right now.

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That's totally fine.

277
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I did not.

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I had to like,

279
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look it up airmen and I had to write it down.

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Phonetically air mask.

281
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Yeah. So she pulled Out this purse and I'm like,

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oh, that's really pretty.

283
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And she says the name of it,

284
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which I don't remember.

285
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I guess these persons have names are so important.

286
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Yeah. Yeah.

287
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It's much fancier than that.

288
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But yeah,

289
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they have names that don't even,

290
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you can't even remember.

291
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Cause they don't make sense.

292
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And so she says it and she talks about it and

293
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she's like,

294
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but you guys listen.

295
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And by the way,

296
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I have no,

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I have no reference point for these persons.

298
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None whatsoever.

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But she says in the video,

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you guys,

301
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but you know,

302
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I'm just,

303
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I'm, I'm practical.

304
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So I bought a used one.

305
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I didn't buy a new one.

306
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And I was like,

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oh good for her.

308
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You know,

309
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but we get right.

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And so while I'm watching this video,

311
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I decided to look up her specific bag.

312
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Cause she has like the name of the color,

313
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the size,

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I guess they're like have measurements.

315
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I look it up on this.

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She said the website,

317
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the used place.

318
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And I need you to sit down for this while I'm

319
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sitting. This Used purse,

320
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purse was $35,000.

321
00:10:14,130 --> 00:10:16,560
I can sneak it in my truck.

322
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Shopping. You used pers for $35,000.

323
00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:24,360
Well, they,

324
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they range.

325
00:10:25,830 --> 00:10:26,460
I think,

326
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I think the least expensive might be in the 20 to

327
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30 range.

328
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New, like not her type and the most expensive one I

329
00:10:34,470 --> 00:10:35,760
found was 200,000.

330
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All right.

331
00:10:36,570 --> 00:10:36,930
Can we,

332
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can we take a time out here for a second,

333
00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,790
but you want us out there still thinking that charging a

334
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thousand dollars for a 16 by 24 is highway robbery and

335
00:10:44,820 --> 00:10:46,410
insane and no one will ever pay it.

336
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I want you to ask yourself that question again.

337
00:10:49,470 --> 00:10:50,840
Okay. Now we can continue.

338
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Go ahead.

339
00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,510
I, I actually was thinking about cost of goods sold.

340
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I was thinking to myself,

341
00:10:55,740 --> 00:10:57,150
even if you use like,

342
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Yeah, it's how I am leather or whatever,

343
00:11:00,060 --> 00:11:00,510
you know?

344
00:11:00,690 --> 00:11:02,910
Yeah. What are they putting into this bag?

345
00:11:02,940 --> 00:11:03,390
A thousand,

346
00:11:03,390 --> 00:11:06,120
a couple thousand dollars at most cost of goods sold profit

347
00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:07,520
margins are just astronomical.

348
00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:08,430
Good. Hey,

349
00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:09,000
good for them.

350
00:11:09,300 --> 00:11:09,540
I mean,

351
00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,940
they're Huge for everything.

352
00:11:12,090 --> 00:11:16,020
There is a market for everything and as she's talking and

353
00:11:16,020 --> 00:11:17,790
I'm looking at these bags and I'm picking my nose,

354
00:11:19,410 --> 00:11:20,100
Right? Yeah.

355
00:11:20,100 --> 00:11:21,960
Well I'm scrolling the comments and all,

356
00:11:22,050 --> 00:11:22,830
cause I'm waiting,

357
00:11:23,130 --> 00:11:25,170
I'm thinking people are going to be like,

358
00:11:25,980 --> 00:11:26,850
that's crazy.

359
00:11:26,850 --> 00:11:28,050
That's like so much money.

360
00:11:28,290 --> 00:11:29,880
The comments were like good for you.

361
00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:30,480
You deserve it.

362
00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:31,350
That's an amazing bag.

363
00:11:31,380 --> 00:11:32,730
I'm going to buy a used one next year.

364
00:11:32,730 --> 00:11:33,150
And I'm thinking,

365
00:11:33,150 --> 00:11:34,350
who are these people?

366
00:11:34,590 --> 00:11:35,100
I just don't.

367
00:11:35,490 --> 00:11:37,410
I don't even understand.

368
00:11:37,410 --> 00:11:38,400
I can't okay.

369
00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:39,600
The trigger.

370
00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:45,450
Okay. So I'm thinking the most expensive purse I had ever

371
00:11:45,450 --> 00:11:47,430
heard of previous to this was like in the one to

372
00:11:47,430 --> 00:11:48,360
$2,000 range.

373
00:11:48,420 --> 00:11:49,560
I didn't even know this was a thing.

374
00:11:50,850 --> 00:11:51,810
Yeah. So,

375
00:11:51,810 --> 00:11:54,670
and she started talking how it's an investment piece and I

376
00:11:54,670 --> 00:11:55,660
just, I'm sorry.

377
00:11:55,660 --> 00:11:57,190
I just really disagree with that.

378
00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:58,720
An investment is something that,

379
00:11:59,140 --> 00:12:01,270
that appreciates over time and makes you money.

380
00:12:01,330 --> 00:12:02,560
And so to me,

381
00:12:02,710 --> 00:12:04,270
a purse is not an investment piece.

382
00:12:04,340 --> 00:12:04,990
We can disagree,

383
00:12:04,990 --> 00:12:05,860
whatever it doesn't matter.

384
00:12:06,370 --> 00:12:07,390
So she says,

385
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you know,

386
00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,690
this is investment piece and she's talking about how it's packaged.

387
00:12:10,690 --> 00:12:11,650
And she said,

388
00:12:11,710 --> 00:12:14,200
okay, this really takes the cake for me.

389
00:12:14,560 --> 00:12:15,220
She said,

390
00:12:15,790 --> 00:12:17,530
I probably don't plan on using it.

391
00:12:17,530 --> 00:12:21,190
It's just going to sit on my shelf in my closet.

392
00:12:23,350 --> 00:12:24,010
I'm sorry.

393
00:12:24,550 --> 00:12:25,990
You bought a $35,000

394
00:12:25,990 --> 00:12:28,570
piece of art because if you're not going to use it,

395
00:12:28,660 --> 00:12:29,110
what is it?

396
00:12:29,110 --> 00:12:30,910
If it's not art art in your closet,

397
00:12:31,300 --> 00:12:31,900
in your closet,

398
00:12:31,900 --> 00:12:33,430
in your house that only you see,

399
00:12:33,460 --> 00:12:35,050
but it's beautiful and it makes you happy.

400
00:12:35,110 --> 00:12:36,340
Okay. And you okay.

401
00:12:36,340 --> 00:12:38,020
Clearly. Oh,

402
00:12:38,050 --> 00:12:40,000
let me slight disclaimer,

403
00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,450
slight side note is that I know that some people who

404
00:12:43,450 --> 00:12:47,710
have money triggers will justify these things by saying something like

405
00:12:47,710 --> 00:12:49,480
maybe you see somebody in a big fancy car and you're

406
00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:49,990
like, oh,

407
00:12:50,110 --> 00:12:51,670
they're probably up to their eyeballs in debt.

408
00:12:51,940 --> 00:12:52,120
You know,

409
00:12:53,050 --> 00:12:57,010
people use that excuse so that they don't have to face

410
00:12:57,010 --> 00:12:59,230
the reality that people actually have money.

411
00:12:59,860 --> 00:13:02,800
So I do not believe that she's up to her eyeballs

412
00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:03,100
in debt.

413
00:13:03,220 --> 00:13:06,370
I 100% believe that she paid cash for this and she

414
00:13:06,370 --> 00:13:07,270
has the money to do it.

415
00:13:07,300 --> 00:13:08,470
So, you know,

416
00:13:08,650 --> 00:13:11,290
I have a friend that she'll see somebody with a car

417
00:13:11,290 --> 00:13:11,710
and she'll be like,

418
00:13:11,740 --> 00:13:13,870
well, they're probably in debt will,

419
00:13:14,410 --> 00:13:16,090
But maybe not letting them yeah.

420
00:13:16,090 --> 00:13:18,580
It's letting her off the hook of Right.

421
00:13:18,610 --> 00:13:19,900
It's like an excuse.

422
00:13:19,900 --> 00:13:22,390
Like, cause you can't face the truth.

423
00:13:22,420 --> 00:13:23,490
Right. So I,

424
00:13:23,490 --> 00:13:25,060
I believe she has the money to do this.

425
00:13:25,090 --> 00:13:27,250
So it's not like her kids are going to go hungry

426
00:13:27,250 --> 00:13:28,840
and she's up to her eyeballs in debt.

427
00:13:28,870 --> 00:13:30,550
I think she probably just paid for it.

428
00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:32,530
So I'm sorry.

429
00:13:32,980 --> 00:13:33,520
I'm laughing.

430
00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,230
I'm sitting here at my desk and I'm laughing and I'm

431
00:13:35,230 --> 00:13:35,570
like, okay,

432
00:13:35,810 --> 00:13:37,150
okay, Well what's going on?

433
00:13:37,150 --> 00:13:38,920
What are you making this mean in your head?

434
00:13:38,950 --> 00:13:40,990
Like what are you saying about,

435
00:13:41,560 --> 00:13:42,820
about her or it,

436
00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:44,650
or just the whole situation,

437
00:13:45,370 --> 00:13:45,880
but you're like,

438
00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:46,150
all right,

439
00:13:46,150 --> 00:13:46,870
this is unhealthy.

440
00:13:47,020 --> 00:13:50,050
Yeah. If I'm being honest and I understand that this is

441
00:13:50,050 --> 00:13:50,620
my issue,

442
00:13:50,620 --> 00:13:52,270
not hers and this does not paint me in a good

443
00:13:52,270 --> 00:13:53,590
light, but I'm thinking that's stupid.

444
00:13:54,190 --> 00:13:55,270
Yeah. I'm thinking that is,

445
00:13:55,630 --> 00:13:57,550
You're judging the purchase of a hundred percent.

446
00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,160
It's similar.

447
00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:05,320
We had this conversation a couple episodes ago about it was

448
00:14:05,370 --> 00:14:08,470
the person with the big house we were watching on something

449
00:14:10,690 --> 00:14:14,830
It's unnecessary and it's excessive and aren't there more important things.

450
00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:16,700
I'm jus total judgment,

451
00:14:16,700 --> 00:14:21,430
a hundred percent judgment because it triggered me and I don't

452
00:14:21,430 --> 00:14:22,610
understand it.

453
00:14:22,610 --> 00:14:24,070
And I don't like it.

454
00:14:24,070 --> 00:14:26,160
So I started asking myself,

455
00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:27,620
well, is that true?

456
00:14:27,620 --> 00:14:31,350
Right? And or are you just on some level jealous of

457
00:14:31,350 --> 00:14:34,620
something you don't have the ability to do?

458
00:14:34,620 --> 00:14:37,800
Whether or not I would buy a purse is not the

459
00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:38,590
point. Like,

460
00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,350
because if I had Drop $35,000,

461
00:14:41,350 --> 00:14:43,300
so something that makes you feel good that you can correct.

462
00:14:44,620 --> 00:14:45,370
Right. I don't,

463
00:14:45,370 --> 00:14:46,090
I don't have that.

464
00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:46,990
I couldn't do that.

465
00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,270
And so I th I think,

466
00:14:49,270 --> 00:14:50,740
well, I just had to buy a car.

467
00:14:50,740 --> 00:14:51,170
I would've it,

468
00:14:51,170 --> 00:14:51,320
you know,

469
00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:52,370
if I had $35,000,

470
00:14:52,370 --> 00:14:53,240
I would just buy a car,

471
00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:53,540
you know,

472
00:14:53,540 --> 00:14:54,080
I would have,

473
00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:55,430
but that would be practical.

474
00:14:55,430 --> 00:14:56,570
So to me,

475
00:14:56,570 --> 00:14:58,100
it's impractical.

476
00:14:58,340 --> 00:15:00,320
It's stupid.

477
00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:01,220
It's excessive.

478
00:15:01,220 --> 00:15:01,760
It's. I mean,

479
00:15:01,790 --> 00:15:03,110
I'm just like you name it.

480
00:15:03,140 --> 00:15:04,760
That was what was going through my mind.

481
00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,310
I caught all of those thoughts and I knew it.

482
00:15:07,310 --> 00:15:08,150
And I was laughing.

483
00:15:08,180 --> 00:15:09,950
Like, you know,

484
00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:17,270
I could have heard the internal dialogue that was going on

485
00:15:17,270 --> 00:15:18,800
in my now less than somebody might say,

486
00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:19,670
Heather, wait a minute.

487
00:15:19,670 --> 00:15:21,110
If you are having a conversation with yourself,

488
00:15:21,140 --> 00:15:22,280
isn't it a monologue?

489
00:15:22,430 --> 00:15:22,680
No, no,

490
00:15:22,700 --> 00:15:27,260
no. There's two voices that I often ask people when I'm

491
00:15:27,260 --> 00:15:27,770
coaching them.

492
00:15:27,770 --> 00:15:28,040
I'm like,

493
00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:29,690
do you ever have a conversation in your head?

494
00:15:29,690 --> 00:15:30,950
And of course they say yes.

495
00:15:31,190 --> 00:15:31,910
And I say,

496
00:15:32,150 --> 00:15:34,520
well, then who's doing the talking and who's doing the listening.

497
00:15:36,290 --> 00:15:37,220
Which of that is you?

498
00:15:37,310 --> 00:15:38,840
So it was a hundred percent of dialogue.

499
00:15:38,870 --> 00:15:39,440
It was like,

500
00:15:40,310 --> 00:15:40,640
you know,

501
00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:41,390
you're judging,

502
00:15:41,390 --> 00:15:42,230
this is judgmental.

503
00:15:42,460 --> 00:15:45,620
Yeah. I'm judging because a $35,000

504
00:15:45,620 --> 00:15:46,880
used purse to sit on your shelf,

505
00:15:46,910 --> 00:15:48,770
like makes absolutely no sense to me.

506
00:15:49,310 --> 00:15:51,290
So I'm processing this.

507
00:15:51,980 --> 00:15:52,730
And then she says,

508
00:15:52,790 --> 00:15:54,470
oh, I also want to talk about the gift I got

509
00:15:54,470 --> 00:15:55,340
from my husband.

510
00:15:56,420 --> 00:15:57,620
Okay. All right.

511
00:15:57,710 --> 00:16:00,290
So I knew something was coming in the driveway with a

512
00:16:00,290 --> 00:16:04,040
bow. I think she got that last year.

513
00:16:04,830 --> 00:16:07,640
Yeah. It was a BMW.

514
00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:08,090
But anyway,

515
00:16:08,300 --> 00:16:10,670
so that she holds up her hand and she said,

516
00:16:10,700 --> 00:16:12,470
I got another,

517
00:16:12,770 --> 00:16:14,480
another upgrade on my ring.

518
00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,030
So this is her second diamond upgrade on her ring.

519
00:16:17,690 --> 00:16:19,100
And she said,

520
00:16:19,100 --> 00:16:20,510
I started out with a two care.

521
00:16:20,540 --> 00:16:23,600
We upgraded to a three care a couple of years ago,

522
00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:25,940
but this year he got me a four carat.

523
00:16:26,450 --> 00:16:28,190
How big was that sucker?

524
00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:30,980
No, it doesn't even balance.

525
00:16:30,980 --> 00:16:32,690
It gets top heavy and falls over,

526
00:16:32,870 --> 00:16:33,050
you know,

527
00:16:33,050 --> 00:16:34,040
like she was fixing it.

528
00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,370
She did not share the price of that,

529
00:16:37,370 --> 00:16:39,770
but she did share the quality,

530
00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,330
the cut and the color.

531
00:16:41,660 --> 00:16:42,560
So of course,

532
00:16:44,210 --> 00:16:47,870
of course I did in the general range for that size.

533
00:16:47,870 --> 00:16:50,060
And what she described is about 25,000.

534
00:16:50,780 --> 00:16:53,750
Okay. So I'm sitting here thinking,

535
00:16:53,810 --> 00:16:54,050
I mean,

536
00:16:54,050 --> 00:16:55,310
I'm not a math genius,

537
00:16:55,340 --> 00:16:57,260
but I can add 25 and 35.

538
00:16:57,260 --> 00:17:01,730
Right. And I'm like $60,000

539
00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:02,390
now, listen,

540
00:17:02,420 --> 00:17:04,490
I don't know what your budget is for Christmas,

541
00:17:04,490 --> 00:17:07,280
but my budget is usually between one and $2,000

542
00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:08,120
for everything.

543
00:17:09,020 --> 00:17:12,770
And I'm thinking her gifts alone were $60,000.

544
00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:15,710
And she's like,

545
00:17:15,740 --> 00:17:16,100
to me,

546
00:17:16,100 --> 00:17:17,360
she's like a normal person,

547
00:17:17,360 --> 00:17:18,680
but obviously he does very well.

548
00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:19,190
And as wealthy,

549
00:17:19,190 --> 00:17:19,370
you know?

550
00:17:19,370 --> 00:17:21,530
So what does that say about people who are,

551
00:17:21,770 --> 00:17:22,070
you know,

552
00:17:22,070 --> 00:17:23,540
the next level above that,

553
00:17:23,540 --> 00:17:24,260
what they're doing,

554
00:17:24,890 --> 00:17:26,030
but that's not okay.

555
00:17:26,030 --> 00:17:26,870
That's not even the point.

556
00:17:26,900 --> 00:17:27,350
It's like,

557
00:17:28,190 --> 00:17:29,720
I'm judging this so hard.

558
00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:31,130
I'm irritated.

559
00:17:31,190 --> 00:17:31,910
I'm jealous.

560
00:17:31,910 --> 00:17:32,210
You know,

561
00:17:32,330 --> 00:17:34,100
actually I heard a quote recently,

562
00:17:34,940 --> 00:17:36,410
it might've been Mel Robbins who said,

563
00:17:36,590 --> 00:17:37,190
oh, I don't know.

564
00:17:37,430 --> 00:17:38,360
It could have been Bernay brown.

565
00:17:38,630 --> 00:17:42,500
That jealousy is sometimes just a clue as to something you

566
00:17:42,500 --> 00:17:47,860
want. So it doesn't have to be in a negative science.

567
00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:48,110
It just,

568
00:17:48,260 --> 00:17:50,760
it's just triggering something you don't have.

569
00:17:51,180 --> 00:17:51,560
I do not.

570
00:17:52,470 --> 00:17:54,720
It's an emotional guidance system,

571
00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:55,620
really? Like,

572
00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:57,690
I'm jealous about this.

573
00:17:58,380 --> 00:17:59,010
Oh, okay.

574
00:17:59,010 --> 00:18:03,300
It's it's when you stay in that space that it becomes

575
00:18:03,300 --> 00:18:06,510
destructive. But having those thoughts where human,

576
00:18:07,140 --> 00:18:07,650
of course,

577
00:18:07,650 --> 00:18:10,110
you're going to have that occasionally it's if you choose to

578
00:18:10,110 --> 00:18:11,670
stay there or if you choose to say,

579
00:18:11,940 --> 00:18:13,230
oh, what does this mean?

580
00:18:13,350 --> 00:18:13,790
Or what,

581
00:18:13,790 --> 00:18:15,420
what, what can I take from this?

582
00:18:16,500 --> 00:18:18,930
And I'm thinking what it means is that I wish I

583
00:18:18,930 --> 00:18:21,660
had more money to just do whatever I wanted with just,

584
00:18:21,660 --> 00:18:22,080
you know,

585
00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,980
like if I wanted something it's not the diamond or the

586
00:18:25,980 --> 00:18:27,900
Hermes bag airbeds,

587
00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,930
okay. It's not the air mez bag or the diamond that

588
00:18:30,930 --> 00:18:31,350
I want.

589
00:18:31,380 --> 00:18:31,740
It's the,

590
00:18:31,830 --> 00:18:34,470
I want the cash money in my bank.

591
00:18:34,710 --> 00:18:35,580
So that I could,

592
00:18:35,910 --> 00:18:38,820
That was my question for you say you had,

593
00:18:38,910 --> 00:18:39,090
you know,

594
00:18:39,090 --> 00:18:39,720
win the lottery,

595
00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:40,230
whatever you have,

596
00:18:40,230 --> 00:18:42,480
$60,000 today and your lap,

597
00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,830
everything else is taken care of Oregon's is paid your car.

598
00:18:46,830 --> 00:18:48,570
Like you don't need any,

599
00:18:48,750 --> 00:18:50,370
you don't need to use that money for anything.

600
00:18:50,940 --> 00:18:51,960
What would you do with it?

601
00:18:52,290 --> 00:18:53,010
Oh, wow.

602
00:18:54,180 --> 00:18:54,780
You know,

603
00:18:54,900 --> 00:18:56,730
I'm hesitating because I don't know.

604
00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:57,210
And that,

605
00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,570
and I know that that's dangerous ground because if you don't

606
00:19:00,570 --> 00:19:02,340
know and you can't dream,

607
00:19:02,340 --> 00:19:03,420
you'll never have it.

608
00:19:03,780 --> 00:19:06,810
Like you have to be able to imagine it because when

609
00:19:06,810 --> 00:19:07,440
you first said it,

610
00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:07,770
I was like,

611
00:19:07,770 --> 00:19:10,320
well, I'd buy a car or I buy Craig a car

612
00:19:10,350 --> 00:19:11,370
or my parents a car.

613
00:19:11,610 --> 00:19:12,090
And you're like,

614
00:19:12,090 --> 00:19:13,080
Nope, you have a car.

615
00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:13,830
Or the house is Tate.

616
00:19:13,830 --> 00:19:15,360
Like, there's nothing that you,

617
00:19:15,810 --> 00:19:16,050
you know,

618
00:19:16,050 --> 00:19:16,740
there's no diet,

619
00:19:16,770 --> 00:19:20,010
you just have 60 K what would you do?

620
00:19:20,130 --> 00:19:22,680
And current Heather would probably just,

621
00:19:22,950 --> 00:19:23,280
you know,

622
00:19:23,310 --> 00:19:24,390
put it in an investment,

623
00:19:24,390 --> 00:19:25,350
leave it in the blank.

624
00:19:27,820 --> 00:19:28,490
Yeah. Yeah.

625
00:19:28,500 --> 00:19:29,970
Which is kind of what she's done.

626
00:19:29,970 --> 00:19:31,530
She's just staring on it in her closet.

627
00:19:33,060 --> 00:19:33,810
'cause she said,

628
00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:35,520
I might sell it in the future.

629
00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:35,880
She's like,

630
00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:37,230
cause they hold their value.

631
00:19:37,260 --> 00:19:37,920
I guess they're like,

632
00:19:38,100 --> 00:19:39,390
they're like Honda's or something.

633
00:19:39,390 --> 00:19:39,900
I don't know.

634
00:19:41,340 --> 00:19:43,110
I, when I think this,

635
00:19:43,140 --> 00:19:45,990
I think it comes down to a slight bit of a

636
00:19:45,990 --> 00:19:52,650
value conflict because you definitely are someone that wants to save,

637
00:19:52,740 --> 00:19:53,130
you know,

638
00:19:53,130 --> 00:19:53,670
there's no,

639
00:19:53,730 --> 00:19:54,960
there's no right or wrong,

640
00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:55,530
you know,

641
00:19:55,530 --> 00:19:59,670
but you feel more secure with X number of dollars in

642
00:19:59,670 --> 00:20:01,680
the bank or paying down the mortgage or,

643
00:20:01,710 --> 00:20:02,100
you know,

644
00:20:02,130 --> 00:20:08,220
having this rainy day fund where she may or may not,

645
00:20:08,250 --> 00:20:08,940
she might have it.

646
00:20:08,940 --> 00:20:09,630
She might not,

647
00:20:09,630 --> 00:20:11,100
but this is,

648
00:20:11,550 --> 00:20:11,850
you know,

649
00:20:11,850 --> 00:20:12,780
it's just a different,

650
00:20:13,550 --> 00:20:14,100
a different place.

651
00:20:14,100 --> 00:20:15,030
People want to spend their money,

652
00:20:16,250 --> 00:20:18,080
Definitely a value conflict.

653
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:19,250
You're a hundred percent right.

654
00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:20,930
About where would I spend that money?

655
00:20:20,930 --> 00:20:22,130
How would I spend that money?

656
00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:23,720
What is deemed,

657
00:20:24,050 --> 00:20:24,350
you know,

658
00:20:24,360 --> 00:20:26,390
quote appropriate.

659
00:20:26,420 --> 00:20:27,530
What's excessive.

660
00:20:27,530 --> 00:20:28,040
What's not,

661
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:29,930
but everybody has a different measure.

662
00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:34,430
And I recognize all of this and I'm just wondering like,

663
00:20:35,410 --> 00:20:38,780
how, how do I process this?

664
00:20:39,830 --> 00:20:41,720
Okay. I called it a good for me.

665
00:20:41,750 --> 00:20:45,140
Right? How do I process this in a healthy way?

666
00:20:45,500 --> 00:20:46,340
So that,

667
00:20:46,340 --> 00:20:49,000
because here's my concern is I know that having those thoughts

668
00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,100
is blocking me for money a hundred percent.

669
00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,710
Yes. Before we go there,

670
00:20:53,710 --> 00:20:55,720
though, when you were saying like,

671
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:56,530
it's excessive,

672
00:20:56,530 --> 00:20:57,460
it's frivolous.

673
00:20:58,180 --> 00:21:00,850
I would venture to say the people that worked on that

674
00:21:00,850 --> 00:21:02,890
bag that are employed by that company,

675
00:21:02,890 --> 00:21:07,780
do not think that purchases frivolous or that feeds their family.

676
00:21:08,050 --> 00:21:10,300
Right. Absolutely different,

677
00:21:10,300 --> 00:21:11,230
different perspective,

678
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:13,330
different perspective.

679
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:14,800
Yeah. I just,

680
00:21:14,890 --> 00:21:18,820
I guess we don't like things that we don't understand.

681
00:21:19,390 --> 00:21:20,290
Yeah. No,

682
00:21:20,290 --> 00:21:25,060
that, and I think it's because your value of saving is

683
00:21:25,060 --> 00:21:29,050
so ingrained when you see something that in your opinion is

684
00:21:29,050 --> 00:21:32,470
opposite of that human nature is to judge that as wrong,

685
00:21:33,100 --> 00:21:34,720
or my way is better,

686
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,550
or my way is better for me,

687
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,880
but it's still a judgment attached to it.

688
00:21:41,020 --> 00:21:43,180
So as far as getting over it,

689
00:21:43,180 --> 00:21:43,360
I mean,

690
00:21:43,360 --> 00:21:44,770
I think the first one is noticing,

691
00:21:44,830 --> 00:21:46,000
oh, you know,

692
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:46,630
and then asking,

693
00:21:46,630 --> 00:21:47,530
why am I judging?

694
00:21:47,530 --> 00:21:50,890
And is it truly as simple as it's a value conflict?

695
00:21:50,890 --> 00:21:55,360
And I can't fathom spending that much money on something frivolous,

696
00:21:55,780 --> 00:21:58,120
but maybe where is your,

697
00:21:58,120 --> 00:22:00,490
like how much money can you spend on something frivolous?

698
00:22:00,700 --> 00:22:01,210
It used to be,

699
00:22:01,210 --> 00:22:01,510
for me,

700
00:22:01,510 --> 00:22:04,570
I had a hard time spending 10 or $20 on flowers

701
00:22:04,570 --> 00:22:05,470
at the farmer's market.

702
00:22:05,500 --> 00:22:07,600
Right. Like really hard time.

703
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:12,280
Like there's just kind of die 20 bucks.

704
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:13,250
I enjoy it.

705
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:16,210
So where like,

706
00:22:16,210 --> 00:22:18,340
where's your current threshold for that?

707
00:22:18,340 --> 00:22:20,230
Because with all things money,

708
00:22:20,710 --> 00:22:22,720
you and I have seen this happen for the business for

709
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:23,350
years. Like,

710
00:22:23,890 --> 00:22:25,780
as you were first making money,

711
00:22:25,780 --> 00:22:27,400
you first have the couple of expenses.

712
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,230
It's kind of the same thing with photography sales,

713
00:22:29,230 --> 00:22:30,970
you get your first sale to a thousand dollars.

714
00:22:31,120 --> 00:22:31,330
You're like,

715
00:22:31,360 --> 00:22:32,050
oh my God.

716
00:22:32,140 --> 00:22:33,280
And then you get a $2,000

717
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:33,640
sale. You're like,

718
00:22:33,670 --> 00:22:34,240
oh my God.

719
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:35,350
And then a $5,000

720
00:22:35,350 --> 00:22:37,390
sale. And all of a sudden that thousand dollars sale is

721
00:22:37,390 --> 00:22:38,260
no big deal.

722
00:22:38,350 --> 00:22:42,640
Right. So you're moving that comfort level of the ladder.

723
00:22:43,300 --> 00:22:45,790
So where's your current comfort level on a frivolous,

724
00:22:46,450 --> 00:22:49,840
like ridiculous just for Heather expense.

725
00:22:50,110 --> 00:22:51,950
Okay. That's a great question.

726
00:22:51,980 --> 00:22:54,530
Thank you for asking it because I'm thinking I'm nowhere near

727
00:22:54,530 --> 00:22:58,160
$30,000, $35.

728
00:22:58,430 --> 00:23:00,410
I can Handle probably,

729
00:23:00,410 --> 00:23:00,770
you know,

730
00:23:00,770 --> 00:23:01,460
here's a good one,

731
00:23:01,490 --> 00:23:02,240
a couple of hundred,

732
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:03,170
maybe up to 500.

733
00:23:03,260 --> 00:23:03,830
Here's one.

734
00:23:04,220 --> 00:23:04,790
My car,

735
00:23:04,790 --> 00:23:07,010
when I bought my car did not have heated seats and

736
00:23:07,010 --> 00:23:09,020
I was used to heated seats and I live in Pittsburgh.

737
00:23:09,350 --> 00:23:12,020
So they told me that they can install heated seats for

738
00:23:12,020 --> 00:23:16,430
$500. And when he first said that to me,

739
00:23:16,460 --> 00:23:18,980
my initial reaction was go do it.

740
00:23:18,980 --> 00:23:19,760
Let's schedule it.

741
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,350
Like, I love heated seats.

742
00:23:21,530 --> 00:23:21,950
You know,

743
00:23:22,130 --> 00:23:24,050
I actually just haven't made the appointment yet,

744
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:28,070
but $500 for something like that to me is like,

745
00:23:28,430 --> 00:23:29,480
okay, I can do that.

746
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:30,110
I can do.

747
00:23:30,140 --> 00:23:32,570
So I'm thinking it's probably in that range.

748
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,050
If you start talking in the thousands,

749
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,870
I get a little twitchy.

750
00:23:39,620 --> 00:23:39,890
All right.

751
00:23:39,890 --> 00:23:43,340
Does it change if it's something for you and your family?

752
00:23:44,090 --> 00:23:46,160
Absolutely. If it's like,

753
00:23:46,340 --> 00:23:47,300
like an experience,

754
00:23:47,300 --> 00:23:48,950
like a Vacation or so yeah.

755
00:23:49,910 --> 00:23:52,220
Experience vacation is my love language,

756
00:23:52,250 --> 00:23:52,650
but yeah,

757
00:23:52,970 --> 00:23:53,330
for sure.

758
00:23:54,350 --> 00:23:57,530
Absolutely. I would spend thousands.

759
00:23:57,740 --> 00:24:00,290
Yeah. Because it's for the family and it's like,

760
00:24:01,770 --> 00:24:02,540
isn't it funny?

761
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:03,320
I see what you're doing here,

762
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:03,650
by the way.

763
00:24:03,830 --> 00:24:04,610
Isn't it funny how,

764
00:24:04,610 --> 00:24:05,480
like you,

765
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:12,200
you assign meaning to what something is based on your own

766
00:24:13,010 --> 00:24:14,600
lens, your own judgment,

767
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:15,530
your own position.

768
00:24:15,530 --> 00:24:16,220
So if it's just,

769
00:24:16,220 --> 00:24:16,730
for me,

770
00:24:16,730 --> 00:24:17,150
it's like,

771
00:24:17,210 --> 00:24:20,630
oh, that could be considered frivolous or unnecessary.

772
00:24:20,690 --> 00:24:23,540
And also Society norms makes you selfish.

773
00:24:23,810 --> 00:24:24,770
Yes, yes.

774
00:24:24,770 --> 00:24:25,910
Yes. That makes you selfish.

775
00:24:25,940 --> 00:24:27,050
Yeah. That's a good point.

776
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,930
But if it's for my family and it's an experience,

777
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:30,470
well then I'm,

778
00:24:30,530 --> 00:24:32,870
I'm investing in our relationship.

779
00:24:33,830 --> 00:24:35,060
That's totally different to me.

780
00:24:35,060 --> 00:24:35,420
That's like,

781
00:24:35,450 --> 00:24:35,810
oh yeah.

782
00:24:35,810 --> 00:24:40,010
I would spend several many thousands on an experience for the

783
00:24:40,010 --> 00:24:41,810
family, but I would,

784
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:49,430
I cannot currently wrap my brain around spending more than $39

785
00:24:49,430 --> 00:24:49,910
on a purse,

786
00:24:49,910 --> 00:24:50,840
the $1,200

787
00:24:50,850 --> 00:24:53,540
bags and now 35,200,000.

788
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,770
Like I'm with you.

789
00:24:58,100 --> 00:25:00,860
I, I can tell you right here,

790
00:25:00,860 --> 00:25:03,530
like with 99.9,

791
00:25:03,530 --> 00:25:05,060
repeating forever,

792
00:25:05,090 --> 00:25:08,150
pretty much as close to a hundred percent certainty as possible

793
00:25:08,360 --> 00:25:09,590
that I will never,

794
00:25:09,830 --> 00:25:13,880
ever, ever spend a thousand dollars or more on a purse

795
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,100
or shoes Ever.

796
00:25:17,330 --> 00:25:19,610
But I no longer judge it.

797
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,200
I don't know that I ever really judged that.

798
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:22,850
Wasn't one of my money trigger stories.

799
00:25:23,510 --> 00:25:25,520
I don't judge people that want to,

800
00:25:26,030 --> 00:25:28,550
because I look at as I'm like,

801
00:25:28,580 --> 00:25:30,350
oh, that's their Galapagos trip.

802
00:25:30,860 --> 00:25:31,570
Yeah, yeah,

803
00:25:31,570 --> 00:25:35,120
yeah. That's where I'm sure there are people judging me on,

804
00:25:35,120 --> 00:25:37,220
like, you spent how much freaking money to go on a

805
00:25:37,220 --> 00:25:38,690
boat and see some sea lions.

806
00:25:38,750 --> 00:25:41,060
You go to pier 39 in San Francisco.

807
00:25:41,870 --> 00:25:46,190
Like how did the zoo,

808
00:25:48,050 --> 00:25:48,470
you know,

809
00:25:48,470 --> 00:25:50,330
so it's,

810
00:25:50,350 --> 00:25:57,890
it's just a choice of where people find their fulfillment spending

811
00:25:57,950 --> 00:25:58,490
their money.

812
00:25:58,490 --> 00:26:01,100
Because I think if we bring it full circle,

813
00:26:01,100 --> 00:26:05,600
like the whole reason we're on this planet is to create

814
00:26:06,140 --> 00:26:10,190
and to feel emotion and to feel joy and to live

815
00:26:10,190 --> 00:26:12,350
into that joy and you know,

816
00:26:12,860 --> 00:26:13,970
and help others really.

817
00:26:13,970 --> 00:26:17,090
So like that joy that helping others also fuels into that

818
00:26:17,090 --> 00:26:19,430
joy. So yeah,

819
00:26:19,460 --> 00:26:19,970
I mean,

820
00:26:20,570 --> 00:26:22,760
right. And you can also start to look at it as

821
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,200
when you buy the expensive purse,

822
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,810
you are helping others because of those people that work for

823
00:26:26,810 --> 00:26:27,590
the purse company.

824
00:26:27,740 --> 00:26:30,950
Right. So really,

825
00:26:31,130 --> 00:26:37,040
I think it's just about like making a new story of

826
00:26:37,790 --> 00:26:39,320
this is what's something,

827
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:39,580
what is,

828
00:26:39,580 --> 00:26:40,910
what's something that you,

829
00:26:41,180 --> 00:26:41,420
I mean,

830
00:26:41,420 --> 00:26:42,980
you said experiences for the family,

831
00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:46,680
but something that's like you spend money on and you're like,

832
00:26:46,770 --> 00:26:47,730
yes, it is.

833
00:26:47,940 --> 00:26:49,080
It's your Galapagos for you?

834
00:26:49,170 --> 00:26:50,430
What's your goal?

835
00:26:50,430 --> 00:26:50,700
I mean,

836
00:26:50,700 --> 00:26:52,590
I do like nice vacations.

837
00:26:52,710 --> 00:26:53,790
Yeah, I do.

838
00:26:53,970 --> 00:26:55,140
And I sent her out sushi.

839
00:26:55,710 --> 00:26:56,280
I love my,

840
00:26:56,310 --> 00:26:56,610
oh yeah.

841
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:57,990
I do love me some good sushi.

842
00:26:58,260 --> 00:26:59,100
That is true.

843
00:26:59,100 --> 00:27:02,280
I will drop some money out at a nice sushi restaurant

844
00:27:02,310 --> 00:27:06,210
to eat something that'll be digested in a day.

845
00:27:06,210 --> 00:27:07,530
But yes.

846
00:27:07,740 --> 00:27:09,210
Does it feel like,

847
00:27:09,210 --> 00:27:11,700
can you latch on to that?

848
00:27:11,700 --> 00:27:12,630
Person's her sushi,

849
00:27:12,660 --> 00:27:17,190
sushi or that person's for vacation Business class,

850
00:27:17,250 --> 00:27:17,970
right? Yeah.

851
00:27:18,030 --> 00:27:18,660
Right, right,

852
00:27:18,690 --> 00:27:24,180
right. I can S I can see that logically and I

853
00:27:24,180 --> 00:27:25,530
am getting there.

854
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,930
I think this is a journey.

855
00:27:27,990 --> 00:27:28,410
I think it's,

856
00:27:28,500 --> 00:27:28,800
you know,

857
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,950
like we've had these conversations about money and I was getting

858
00:27:31,950 --> 00:27:35,610
to the point where I was nonjudgmental about people investing in

859
00:27:35,610 --> 00:27:36,780
$1,200 bags.

860
00:27:36,870 --> 00:27:39,480
Like, and that was a stretch for me that took a

861
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:40,440
long time to get there.

862
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,150
But this just took the cake.

863
00:27:42,180 --> 00:27:42,570
I mean,

864
00:27:42,570 --> 00:27:49,550
35,000 was like so far beyond what I can comprehend Something.

865
00:27:49,580 --> 00:27:54,270
I don't think that can be like magically fixed and a

866
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:55,830
half hour conversation.

867
00:27:56,130 --> 00:28:00,120
But I do want to point out how far you have

868
00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:02,460
come and your money journey over the past couple of years,

869
00:28:02,460 --> 00:28:03,300
because you just said like,

870
00:28:03,300 --> 00:28:03,560
you know,

871
00:28:03,660 --> 00:28:05,490
$10,000 or something on a purse.

872
00:28:06,330 --> 00:28:09,270
Do you remember when just three years ago,

873
00:28:09,300 --> 00:28:10,770
spending $10,000

874
00:28:10,770 --> 00:28:17,010
on a continuing education group coaching program made you all kinds

875
00:28:17,010 --> 00:28:18,660
of squirrely reaction.

876
00:28:18,750 --> 00:28:20,550
Yeah. Never forget.

877
00:28:20,550 --> 00:28:22,650
I think now we're going on about four years,

878
00:28:22,650 --> 00:28:24,570
you came to me and you said,

879
00:28:24,570 --> 00:28:26,670
Hey, there's this group coaching program.

880
00:28:26,670 --> 00:28:27,900
It's about 13,000

881
00:28:27,900 --> 00:28:28,200
a year.

882
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:29,760
So it's about 1100 a month.

883
00:28:30,090 --> 00:28:31,050
And I'm joining it.

884
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,300
This was you because you're ahead of the curve.

885
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:34,260
And I was like,

886
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:35,220
you're insane.

887
00:28:35,370 --> 00:28:35,880
I don't,

888
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:36,630
I mean,

889
00:28:36,630 --> 00:28:36,990
you know,

890
00:28:36,990 --> 00:28:39,180
cause you and I are fun that way.

891
00:28:39,180 --> 00:28:40,620
I would tell you straight to your face,

892
00:28:40,620 --> 00:28:42,270
like, that's the craziest thing I ever heard.

893
00:28:42,270 --> 00:28:43,050
I'm like,

894
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:43,530
that's great.

895
00:28:43,530 --> 00:28:43,950
And you're like,

896
00:28:43,950 --> 00:28:45,000
yeah, I'm going for it.

897
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:46,290
But of course I support you.

898
00:28:46,290 --> 00:28:46,740
Of course,

899
00:28:46,740 --> 00:28:46,980
you know,

900
00:28:47,910 --> 00:28:51,570
you did it for a year and we're working together and

901
00:28:51,570 --> 00:28:52,860
I saw what was happening.

902
00:28:53,220 --> 00:28:57,000
And then we went to an in-person thing together and we

903
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,770
talked about it and I was like,

904
00:28:59,490 --> 00:29:00,150
I'm going to do it.

905
00:29:01,140 --> 00:29:04,110
That was huge for me.

906
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:04,560
I mean,

907
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,120
that was a tremendous leap.

908
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,520
A lot of growth happened in that year.

909
00:29:09,420 --> 00:29:13,410
And now I will never be without a business coach or

910
00:29:13,410 --> 00:29:15,150
mentor or group of some kind.

911
00:29:15,150 --> 00:29:17,850
I will never be without a therapist,

912
00:29:17,910 --> 00:29:19,320
a team like it just,

913
00:29:19,350 --> 00:29:22,200
you just need that type of support to grow because you

914
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:22,440
want to,

915
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:22,770
I mean,

916
00:29:22,770 --> 00:29:25,710
the goal is to grow and learn more and live into

917
00:29:25,740 --> 00:29:26,760
your purpose and your joy.

918
00:29:26,790 --> 00:29:28,200
So yeah,

919
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,320
I have come a long way and it's so funny how

920
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:32,700
I think I'm doing really well.

921
00:29:32,700 --> 00:29:34,350
Right. I'm proud of my progress.

922
00:29:34,350 --> 00:29:36,030
And then I get with that.

923
00:29:37,530 --> 00:29:38,910
I think it's $2,000

924
00:29:38,910 --> 00:29:40,950
on a diamond and a purse can throw anyone for a

925
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:41,740
loop. Again,

926
00:29:41,740 --> 00:29:43,890
no judgment Galapagos.

927
00:29:44,970 --> 00:29:46,090
She has the money to do it.

928
00:29:46,090 --> 00:29:46,720
God bless her.

929
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:47,770
That's awesome.

930
00:29:48,580 --> 00:29:48,910
You know,

931
00:29:48,910 --> 00:29:51,490
and I think a lot of people can take this.

932
00:29:52,300 --> 00:29:56,710
The like the take home thing is really look at what

933
00:29:56,710 --> 00:29:58,210
is going on in your head.

934
00:29:58,210 --> 00:30:01,270
What are you saying to yourself under your breath?

935
00:30:01,300 --> 00:30:02,830
When you see this out in the real world,

936
00:30:03,460 --> 00:30:03,940
you know,

937
00:30:03,940 --> 00:30:06,910
when you see the people doing really well,

938
00:30:06,910 --> 00:30:10,960
and is it different when it's Jeff Bezos versus like a

939
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,490
local business person?

940
00:30:12,490 --> 00:30:13,720
That's a good point.

941
00:30:13,870 --> 00:30:17,860
Yeah. It's a different for a YouTuber that you like versus

942
00:30:18,490 --> 00:30:19,720
like, I don't know,

943
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,230
developer that just developed all this land behind your house.

944
00:30:23,230 --> 00:30:24,460
Cause it's kind of all the same.

945
00:30:24,910 --> 00:30:25,510
It is.

946
00:30:25,540 --> 00:30:28,390
That's so interesting because now that you say that I'm thinking,

947
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:29,680
I watched this YouTube,

948
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,100
cause I really like her and this was good.

949
00:30:33,190 --> 00:30:33,790
This was good.

950
00:30:33,790 --> 00:30:34,300
This was good.

951
00:30:34,300 --> 00:30:37,600
That it happened to me via someone that I like,

952
00:30:37,810 --> 00:30:41,290
because it's much easier to brush it off when it's someone

953
00:30:41,290 --> 00:30:41,830
you don't like,

954
00:30:42,220 --> 00:30:42,790
Cause you just say,

955
00:30:42,790 --> 00:30:43,690
I don't like that person.

956
00:30:43,690 --> 00:30:46,600
Exactly. So I instantly,

957
00:30:46,780 --> 00:30:49,630
instantly because I really like her instantly.

958
00:30:49,630 --> 00:30:52,720
I knew this was a Heather problem because I,

959
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,580
I, I still watch her stock,

960
00:30:54,580 --> 00:30:55,270
but I,

961
00:30:55,300 --> 00:30:57,070
it triggered me and I was like,

962
00:30:57,100 --> 00:30:59,710
I watched the whole video and then I walked away and

963
00:30:59,710 --> 00:31:00,160
I was like,

964
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:01,900
pacing, like a caged lion.

965
00:31:01,900 --> 00:31:02,380
And I'm like,

966
00:31:02,380 --> 00:31:03,100
what's going on?

967
00:31:03,100 --> 00:31:04,000
What's the story?

968
00:31:04,210 --> 00:31:05,110
What are you telling yourself?

969
00:31:05,140 --> 00:31:07,300
What are you making it mean about you?

970
00:31:07,540 --> 00:31:08,050
And you know,

971
00:31:08,110 --> 00:31:10,450
it's funny if you really follow the rabbit trail,

972
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:11,200
it's like,

973
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:12,520
well, I'm,

974
00:31:12,580 --> 00:31:14,500
I wish I had $60,000

975
00:31:14,590 --> 00:31:16,150
to do whatever I wanted with her just sitting in the

976
00:31:16,150 --> 00:31:17,710
bank. But wait,

977
00:31:17,710 --> 00:31:18,190
it gets better,

978
00:31:18,190 --> 00:31:21,310
Nicole, but this is happening at the sub level.

979
00:31:21,310 --> 00:31:22,420
I wasn't consciously thinking.

980
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:23,800
I'll just explore it later.

981
00:31:24,460 --> 00:31:25,420
Okay. But I don't,

982
00:31:26,380 --> 00:31:27,340
what does that mean about me?

983
00:31:28,930 --> 00:31:31,630
I don't have she's much younger than me.

984
00:31:31,810 --> 00:31:33,820
So like as of age matters.

985
00:31:33,820 --> 00:31:34,690
Right. Okay.

986
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:35,740
Which it doesn't.

987
00:31:35,860 --> 00:31:38,710
So why do I not have 60,000?

988
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,410
Because I'm slow.

989
00:31:41,590 --> 00:31:42,640
I'm a loser.

990
00:31:42,730 --> 00:31:43,540
I'm dumb.

991
00:31:43,630 --> 00:31:44,830
I haven't figured it out.

992
00:31:44,860 --> 00:31:46,060
Why does everybody else have it?

993
00:31:46,060 --> 00:31:46,630
Not me.

994
00:31:46,900 --> 00:31:47,680
I'm the idiot.

995
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,170
Like you get into a shame spiral is what that is.

996
00:31:50,410 --> 00:31:52,630
Because you start telling yourself a story about what it means

997
00:31:53,170 --> 00:31:55,720
that the issue is that most people,

998
00:31:55,750 --> 00:31:56,290
first of all,

999
00:31:56,290 --> 00:31:57,370
catch the trigger,

1000
00:31:57,460 --> 00:32:02,530
but then second really dig deep to explore what the story

1001
00:32:02,530 --> 00:32:06,370
is or the belief that you're telling yourself about what it

1002
00:32:06,370 --> 00:32:07,750
means about you.

1003
00:32:07,870 --> 00:32:08,860
So it was first like,

1004
00:32:08,890 --> 00:32:09,730
oh, I'm triggered by this.

1005
00:32:09,730 --> 00:32:10,540
This is excessive.

1006
00:32:10,540 --> 00:32:11,140
I don't like that.

1007
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,090
Value conflict check,

1008
00:32:13,270 --> 00:32:14,080
like alert.

1009
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,410
And then I entered the shame spiral of like,

1010
00:32:17,410 --> 00:32:18,940
but I don't have $60,000

1011
00:32:18,940 --> 00:32:19,420
laying around.

1012
00:32:19,420 --> 00:32:20,230
Why, why not?

1013
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:22,630
I'm a loser.

1014
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,510
I should have all that money.

1015
00:32:25,690 --> 00:32:26,500
And I don't.

1016
00:32:26,500 --> 00:32:27,550
So what's that mean about me?

1017
00:32:27,550 --> 00:32:28,270
I'm behind,

1018
00:32:28,270 --> 00:32:28,840
I'm behind.

1019
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,130
And then it becomes comparative.

1020
00:32:30,370 --> 00:32:34,390
It just enters into really dangerous,

1021
00:32:34,450 --> 00:32:35,740
unhealthy territory.

1022
00:32:35,740 --> 00:32:39,260
And the problem is most people are completely unaware that it's

1023
00:32:39,260 --> 00:32:40,640
happening. Yeah.

1024
00:32:40,730 --> 00:32:42,590
And how you just explained,

1025
00:32:42,980 --> 00:32:48,950
I think happens a lot with our photographers because they get

1026
00:32:48,950 --> 00:32:52,010
into a shame spiral comparing somebody that's been in business for

1027
00:32:52,010 --> 00:32:54,200
10 years when they've been in business for 10 months,

1028
00:32:54,650 --> 00:32:58,400
they get into a shame spiral of their sales are,

1029
00:32:58,400 --> 00:32:58,760
you know,

1030
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:02,510
are lower than what they wanted to be or one client

1031
00:33:02,540 --> 00:33:05,240
that didn't purchase what they wanted to or how to challenging

1032
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,300
client means that I am not come out kind of out

1033
00:33:08,300 --> 00:33:08,720
for this.

1034
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,430
I might as well just close up shop.

1035
00:33:10,430 --> 00:33:12,410
And there's no way I can do this.

1036
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:13,010
You know,

1037
00:33:13,010 --> 00:33:16,670
you get all of these stories and you know,

1038
00:33:16,670 --> 00:33:20,660
that's on top of having to work through your own money

1039
00:33:20,690 --> 00:33:24,650
BS because if you're running a boutique business,

1040
00:33:25,430 --> 00:33:26,750
it's kind of excessive,

1041
00:33:26,750 --> 00:33:28,130
like the $35,000,

1042
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,310
three to $4,000

1043
00:33:31,310 --> 00:33:33,350
on a photo of your dog,

1044
00:33:34,460 --> 00:33:36,410
a lot of people would label that as success.

1045
00:33:36,850 --> 00:33:37,370
That's true,

1046
00:33:40,180 --> 00:33:42,560
But it's for your clients.

1047
00:33:42,710 --> 00:33:43,070
And you know,

1048
00:33:43,070 --> 00:33:45,140
and I got this message the other day I posted in

1049
00:33:45,140 --> 00:33:48,290
our elevate group from a client that I had five years

1050
00:33:48,290 --> 00:33:51,410
ago that their dog passed away.

1051
00:33:51,410 --> 00:33:52,190
And just like,

1052
00:33:52,220 --> 00:33:52,490
you know,

1053
00:33:52,490 --> 00:33:53,810
it was about a year ago and she's like,

1054
00:33:53,870 --> 00:33:55,430
oh, it's just taken me this long to kind of get

1055
00:33:55,430 --> 00:33:57,320
over and like to start to look at that photo again.

1056
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:58,280
But now that I am,

1057
00:33:58,280 --> 00:33:59,330
it means the world to me,

1058
00:33:59,750 --> 00:33:59,990
I'm like,

1059
00:33:59,990 --> 00:34:00,890
this is this.

1060
00:34:00,950 --> 00:34:02,060
This is why we do,

1061
00:34:02,810 --> 00:34:03,170
you know,

1062
00:34:03,170 --> 00:34:06,260
and it's a long game too.

1063
00:34:06,290 --> 00:34:09,620
The other lesson from that client is I had met them

1064
00:34:10,310 --> 00:34:13,790
when I first started my business at like an event and

1065
00:34:13,790 --> 00:34:14,690
hardware acres.

1066
00:34:14,720 --> 00:34:17,750
So like some little whatever community event.

1067
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,080
And then five years later they had their session.

1068
00:34:21,410 --> 00:34:22,850
And now five years after that,

1069
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,880
they're coming back to me saying how much they just like

1070
00:34:26,060 --> 00:34:27,440
value everything about it.

1071
00:34:27,620 --> 00:34:29,030
Right. So you guys,

1072
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:30,440
this is a long game,

1073
00:34:30,620 --> 00:34:31,520
right? Right.

1074
00:34:31,700 --> 00:34:32,720
Yeah. You're in,

1075
00:34:32,720 --> 00:34:33,800
you're on a journey as well.

1076
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:34,130
I mean,

1077
00:34:34,130 --> 00:34:36,830
you you've progressed through that time as well.

1078
00:34:36,830 --> 00:34:40,460
So I think that's important to note because something you said

1079
00:34:40,470 --> 00:34:41,720
a little while ago is like,

1080
00:34:41,720 --> 00:34:43,250
it doesn't happen immediately.

1081
00:34:43,250 --> 00:34:44,990
You're not all of a sudden going to catch these money

1082
00:34:44,990 --> 00:34:46,640
triggers and then solve them.

1083
00:34:46,910 --> 00:34:50,210
And that's probably one of my biggest issues is I go

1084
00:34:50,210 --> 00:34:53,510
into, how do I fix this right now?

1085
00:34:53,660 --> 00:34:54,260
Wait a second,

1086
00:34:54,260 --> 00:34:55,340
Nicole emergency.

1087
00:34:55,340 --> 00:34:56,780
I don't want to feel this way.

1088
00:34:57,020 --> 00:35:00,170
I don't want to have these triggers and I'm not there

1089
00:35:00,170 --> 00:35:01,280
yet. But I'm thinking like,

1090
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,170
okay, next time when something hits me,

1091
00:35:03,590 --> 00:35:06,710
I think the process I started to go through was healthy.

1092
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,990
And then the next part of that is what am I

1093
00:35:08,990 --> 00:35:10,700
making it mean about me?

1094
00:35:11,030 --> 00:35:13,310
And here's enough?

1095
00:35:13,370 --> 00:35:14,000
Oh my gosh,

1096
00:35:14,030 --> 00:35:14,930
this goes so deep.

1097
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,040
Because when I have triggered feelings that I don't like,

1098
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,580
I start to judge myself about what a loser I am,

1099
00:35:22,580 --> 00:35:25,250
because I had those feelings to be in with The negative

1100
00:35:25,250 --> 00:35:29,820
feeling. And trust me it's to be positive all the time.

1101
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:30,710
Your human Heather.

1102
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,800
Yeah. My therapist told me that yesterday and I said,

1103
00:35:33,890 --> 00:35:34,700
oh, false.

1104
00:35:34,730 --> 00:35:36,080
I'd rather be a robot.

1105
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,200
So she has signed to me multiple times that you go

1106
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,720
into this immediate problem solving mode.

1107
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,550
And then you also,

1108
00:35:44,820 --> 00:35:45,030
you know,

1109
00:35:45,030 --> 00:35:48,810
to compound the issue will not multiply it by then judging

1110
00:35:48,810 --> 00:35:51,660
yourself. Because there were times I caught this.

1111
00:35:51,660 --> 00:35:52,470
I didn't do it this time.

1112
00:35:52,470 --> 00:35:54,090
But there were times when I would have watched a video

1113
00:35:54,090 --> 00:35:55,770
like that had those feelings.

1114
00:35:56,130 --> 00:35:57,630
And then instead of saying,

1115
00:35:57,990 --> 00:35:58,440
oh, okay,

1116
00:35:58,440 --> 00:35:59,370
let's work through something.

1117
00:35:59,370 --> 00:36:00,150
You were triggered,

1118
00:36:00,150 --> 00:36:00,390
blah, blah,

1119
00:36:00,390 --> 00:36:01,380
blah. I would have said,

1120
00:36:01,620 --> 00:36:02,730
why am I such a jerk?

1121
00:36:04,770 --> 00:36:07,590
Why can't I just be happy that somebody could purchase,

1122
00:36:07,620 --> 00:36:08,520
oh, what's wrong with me?

1123
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:09,360
I'm such a jerk.

1124
00:36:09,390 --> 00:36:09,720
You know?

1125
00:36:10,020 --> 00:36:12,420
And then that was a whole nother shame spiral,

1126
00:36:13,230 --> 00:36:15,510
all of this from watching a YouTube video.

1127
00:36:15,510 --> 00:36:16,320
But here's the thing,

1128
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:16,800
you guys,

1129
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,350
this is happening to you on a daily basis with things

1130
00:36:19,350 --> 00:36:22,350
that trigger you and it's going way deeper than you imagine.

1131
00:36:22,350 --> 00:36:23,730
You just have to start because of,

1132
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,430
And you're not even noticing that,

1133
00:36:26,430 --> 00:36:27,330
like the,

1134
00:36:27,630 --> 00:36:29,070
I was reading a book recently,

1135
00:36:30,510 --> 00:36:32,940
gosh, this is the problem with the Kindle.

1136
00:36:32,940 --> 00:36:36,060
I have no idea what the book was Cover.

1137
00:36:37,140 --> 00:36:37,710
But anyway,

1138
00:36:37,710 --> 00:36:39,240
it was about kind of this mindset.

1139
00:36:39,240 --> 00:36:39,960
And it'll come to me,

1140
00:36:39,990 --> 00:36:40,770
I'll let you guys know.

1141
00:36:41,130 --> 00:36:46,500
But it was basically saying that our emotions are truly like

1142
00:36:46,590 --> 00:36:51,000
the best guiding thing that we can look at.

1143
00:36:51,240 --> 00:36:54,120
So if you are doing something and you are not feeling

1144
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:54,930
good about it,

1145
00:36:55,470 --> 00:36:58,620
oh, that's telling us that's a clue to look deeper and

1146
00:36:58,620 --> 00:36:59,880
say, okay,

1147
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:03,840
why, why am I feeling these kinds of more icky?

1148
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,680
Like either judgment or jealousy or shame,

1149
00:37:07,740 --> 00:37:09,900
or like talking down to myself,

1150
00:37:09,990 --> 00:37:10,320
you know?

1151
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:11,010
And we,

1152
00:37:11,490 --> 00:37:13,110
the negative self-talk,

1153
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:14,430
this is,

1154
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:20,550
it's so pervasive in quiet that you don't even know it's

1155
00:37:20,550 --> 00:37:21,840
there. You know,

1156
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,090
it's not like you're standing in front of the mirror saying,

1157
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:25,620
oh, look at that gut.

1158
00:37:25,620 --> 00:37:26,550
It's disgusting.

1159
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:31,080
But saying that in your head quietly,

1160
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:32,730
whenever you're getting in the shower,

1161
00:37:32,940 --> 00:37:33,330
you know,

1162
00:37:33,330 --> 00:37:35,820
or whenever you're putting your price list together.

1163
00:37:35,850 --> 00:37:38,490
And you're just like that little voice back there is like,

1164
00:37:39,030 --> 00:37:39,540
who are you?

1165
00:37:39,540 --> 00:37:40,170
You clown,

1166
00:37:40,230 --> 00:37:42,300
no one is going to pay that you idiot.

1167
00:37:42,750 --> 00:37:43,260
Like, you know,

1168
00:37:43,260 --> 00:37:44,730
you're not to yourself,

1169
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:45,690
but you are,

1170
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,200
if you are feeling like,

1171
00:37:49,950 --> 00:37:53,970
ah, just kind of resistance to doing something like that.

1172
00:37:54,090 --> 00:37:55,620
That means there is a voice in there.

1173
00:37:55,620 --> 00:37:57,000
So better get quiet,

1174
00:37:57,030 --> 00:37:59,550
ask what it is and then try to figure out like,

1175
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:00,000
all right,

1176
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,020
where's that coming from?

1177
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:02,550
Is it trying to keep me safe?

1178
00:38:02,580 --> 00:38:05,520
Because it doesn't want me to get rejected,

1179
00:38:05,940 --> 00:38:08,670
which is often where our friends and family that are like,

1180
00:38:08,700 --> 00:38:09,480
you're crazy.

1181
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:10,830
You can't charge that much.

1182
00:38:10,830 --> 00:38:13,800
They're just trying to protect us because they don't know what's

1183
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,410
possible. So yeah.

1184
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,290
Watch. And for anyone who's thinking,

1185
00:38:19,350 --> 00:38:21,000
oh, I have a pretty good handle on that.

1186
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:21,690
I don't have negative.

1187
00:38:21,690 --> 00:38:23,130
Self-talk please learn from me.

1188
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,240
About three years ago,

1189
00:38:24,420 --> 00:38:26,250
I had a friend asked me that question and I know

1190
00:38:26,250 --> 00:38:27,480
this because it's on record.

1191
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:27,780
It's a,

1192
00:38:27,850 --> 00:38:28,890
it's a recorded video.

1193
00:38:28,890 --> 00:38:30,390
And I watched it the other day and she said to

1194
00:38:30,390 --> 00:38:31,020
me directly,

1195
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:32,880
how do you feel about your self-talk?

1196
00:38:32,970 --> 00:38:33,390
And I was like,

1197
00:38:33,420 --> 00:38:33,990
oh, I'm great.

1198
00:38:34,380 --> 00:38:36,310
I'm I don't have a problem with that.

1199
00:38:36,310 --> 00:38:37,900
I, I speak to myself,

1200
00:38:37,900 --> 00:38:40,270
like I'm aware I handle it.

1201
00:38:40,270 --> 00:38:41,290
And I watched that now.

1202
00:38:41,290 --> 00:38:41,950
So three years,

1203
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,470
it might even been four years ago and I laughed out

1204
00:38:44,470 --> 00:38:45,400
loud and I'm like,

1205
00:38:45,820 --> 00:38:52,300
Heather. So naive that self talk exactly what you just described.

1206
00:38:52,330 --> 00:38:54,490
I was not standing in front of the mirror telling myself

1207
00:38:54,490 --> 00:38:55,060
I was an idiot.

1208
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,190
Right. Was so quiet.

1209
00:38:57,610 --> 00:39:00,130
It was so beneath the surface.

1210
00:39:00,610 --> 00:39:03,250
I didn't consciously hear it,

1211
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:04,150
but it was,

1212
00:39:04,540 --> 00:39:07,210
yeah. My therapist has helped me to see this a little

1213
00:39:07,210 --> 00:39:13,090
more clearly that I am incredibly ridiculously hard on myself.

1214
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,180
Always calling myself like stupid or idiot or like,

1215
00:39:16,180 --> 00:39:17,170
how could you not know that?

1216
00:39:17,170 --> 00:39:18,160
Or why are you not there?

1217
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,070
Or you should be this constant late.

1218
00:39:21,090 --> 00:39:22,360
And I didn't even know it.

1219
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,650
So it's something that everybody needs to check because do you

1220
00:39:26,650 --> 00:39:27,190
do that?

1221
00:39:27,190 --> 00:39:27,820
Are you like,

1222
00:39:27,820 --> 00:39:28,600
what's your status?

1223
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:29,320
Don't say you don't.

1224
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,240
Okay. Because I do.

1225
00:39:31,240 --> 00:39:32,530
And I was just going to say like,

1226
00:39:32,530 --> 00:39:34,330
I'm starting to catch it more,

1227
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,070
not so much with like,

1228
00:39:36,220 --> 00:39:36,880
cause it takes,

1229
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,090
it takes a lot for me to feel like bad.

1230
00:39:40,090 --> 00:39:41,950
I'm not saying don't feel bad.

1231
00:39:41,950 --> 00:39:42,910
Or I get in these funks,

1232
00:39:42,910 --> 00:39:43,780
I do human.

1233
00:39:44,260 --> 00:39:45,610
But for me,

1234
00:39:45,610 --> 00:39:47,110
the, that quiet voice,

1235
00:39:47,140 --> 00:39:48,010
that quiet,

1236
00:39:48,310 --> 00:39:50,620
negative self-talk manifested resistance.

1237
00:39:52,150 --> 00:39:54,280
It, it kind of manifests in,

1238
00:39:54,940 --> 00:39:58,840
gosh, I've really got to like put this copy together for

1239
00:39:58,840 --> 00:39:59,710
this page.

1240
00:39:59,710 --> 00:40:03,700
Or like redo this price list or do like do something.

1241
00:40:03,700 --> 00:40:04,450
And it's just like,

1242
00:40:04,630 --> 00:40:08,080
it feels heavy and it feels hard.

1243
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:13,090
And that's usually because somewhere in that super dark corner of

1244
00:40:13,090 --> 00:40:15,880
my subconscious is saying like,

1245
00:40:16,180 --> 00:40:17,440
yeah, because you suck at this.

1246
00:40:17,650 --> 00:40:18,640
Yeah. You can't do it.

1247
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:19,660
Right. Yeah.

1248
00:40:19,690 --> 00:40:21,730
Loser, somebody else should be doing it.

1249
00:40:21,790 --> 00:40:22,560
Right. Why do you,

1250
00:40:22,610 --> 00:40:25,270
who, who do you think you are to be writing?

1251
00:40:25,450 --> 00:40:26,500
That kind of copy?

1252
00:40:26,650 --> 00:40:28,630
Yeah, it does manifest and resistance.

1253
00:40:28,660 --> 00:40:30,760
And also for me sometimes inaction,

1254
00:40:32,230 --> 00:40:33,700
there are things I won't do.

1255
00:40:33,910 --> 00:40:34,270
And I,

1256
00:40:34,690 --> 00:40:35,200
but I don't.

1257
00:40:35,500 --> 00:40:37,510
Oh, I don't recognize that.

1258
00:40:37,720 --> 00:40:38,170
It's all,

1259
00:40:38,590 --> 00:40:40,180
it's all this internal.

1260
00:40:40,180 --> 00:40:41,950
But I said to Craig recently,

1261
00:40:41,950 --> 00:40:42,340
I'm like,

1262
00:40:42,670 --> 00:40:44,080
ah, I'm in a prison of mine.

1263
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:46,600
Like I built it,

1264
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:46,990
you know?

1265
00:40:46,990 --> 00:40:47,680
And it's true.

1266
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:52,390
I think to some degree we all are like trying to

1267
00:40:52,390 --> 00:40:53,800
catch these things.

1268
00:40:54,370 --> 00:40:54,640
You know?

1269
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,140
You don't know what you don't know.

1270
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:57,760
You're just not aware of it.

1271
00:40:58,470 --> 00:41:00,790
It is a continued oh gosh,

1272
00:41:01,060 --> 00:41:02,110
Forever and ever.

1273
00:41:03,100 --> 00:41:04,060
But it does get easier.

1274
00:41:04,690 --> 00:41:06,620
Yeah. You start to the first step first.

1275
00:41:06,780 --> 00:41:08,080
I said this at the beginning of the episode,

1276
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,050
first hop is catch that you're being triggered and recognize that

1277
00:41:11,050 --> 00:41:12,670
it's not because of the other person.

1278
00:41:12,970 --> 00:41:14,710
Yeah. They didn't do anything to you.

1279
00:41:14,770 --> 00:41:17,440
Right. Even if they did you feel that they did,

1280
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:17,890
they didn't,

1281
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:18,460
this is,

1282
00:41:18,850 --> 00:41:19,990
this is your reaction.

1283
00:41:19,990 --> 00:41:20,980
This is a me problem.

1284
00:41:20,980 --> 00:41:22,480
This is my reaction to that.

1285
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:23,800
What's going on with me.

1286
00:41:24,010 --> 00:41:26,920
And don't judge yourself for feeling it because you are human.

1287
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,630
Like it's totally human to feel that,

1288
00:41:28,900 --> 00:41:30,220
but explore it.

1289
00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:34,160
It explored in a way that's healthy so that you process

1290
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,890
it and maybe just do a little bit better.

1291
00:41:36,890 --> 00:41:38,240
Next time my therapist says,

1292
00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:39,890
because I go into solution mode,

1293
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,160
I want the next time to go like perfectly smoothly,

1294
00:41:43,310 --> 00:41:44,270
completely finished.

1295
00:41:44,450 --> 00:41:45,110
And she said,

1296
00:41:45,110 --> 00:41:46,460
it's more like a dial.

1297
00:41:46,610 --> 00:41:48,440
Like, could you just dial it in?

1298
00:41:48,470 --> 00:41:49,190
Like, could you,

1299
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:49,640
you know,

1300
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,590
if you were at a level 10 last time,

1301
00:41:51,590 --> 00:41:53,180
could you bring that down to a level eight?

1302
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:53,810
You know?

1303
00:41:53,810 --> 00:41:56,660
So it's not going from like 10 to zero because of

1304
00:41:56,660 --> 00:41:59,180
the, The jail analogy,

1305
00:42:00,130 --> 00:42:03,830
many things Down or dial it up depending on,

1306
00:42:03,830 --> 00:42:04,070
you know,

1307
00:42:04,070 --> 00:42:05,870
what you're trying to achieve in my case,

1308
00:42:05,870 --> 00:42:07,190
I'm trying to dial it down.

1309
00:42:07,340 --> 00:42:07,730
She said,

1310
00:42:07,730 --> 00:42:10,220
if you think that you're going to go from 10 to

1311
00:42:10,220 --> 00:42:12,980
zero, you are setting yourself up for disappointment because that is

1312
00:42:12,980 --> 00:42:14,630
an expectation that cannot be met.

1313
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:16,370
So instead,

1314
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:16,910
could you say,

1315
00:42:16,910 --> 00:42:20,120
okay, I had a reaction like level 10 this time.

1316
00:42:20,300 --> 00:42:22,910
Maybe it's just a nine next time instead of a 10

1317
00:42:23,240 --> 00:42:25,460
and not beating yourself up for not fixing it,

1318
00:42:25,460 --> 00:42:26,060
but saying,

1319
00:42:26,090 --> 00:42:29,420
okay, I'm getting a little bit better this a little bit

1320
00:42:29,420 --> 00:42:30,140
better everyday.

1321
00:42:30,350 --> 00:42:31,040
Yup. Yup.

1322
00:42:31,070 --> 00:42:33,290
This actually reminds me of my book that I'm reading is

1323
00:42:33,290 --> 00:42:35,270
asking that it's given by Esther and Jerry Hicks.

1324
00:42:36,140 --> 00:42:38,390
And it was talking about that,

1325
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,970
that dial and how,

1326
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:41,240
you know,

1327
00:42:41,240 --> 00:42:43,940
we have these emotions that basically kind of tell us where

1328
00:42:43,940 --> 00:42:45,830
we are on this vibration scale.

1329
00:42:46,100 --> 00:42:48,560
And like the lowest is like,

1330
00:42:48,590 --> 00:42:48,860
you know,

1331
00:42:48,860 --> 00:42:49,700
just depression.

1332
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,630
But then a lot of people like once you raise up,

1333
00:42:53,630 --> 00:42:55,130
the next one up is like anger.

1334
00:42:55,490 --> 00:42:57,110
So for them to like,

1335
00:42:57,410 --> 00:42:59,090
they're not going to get to 10 overnight.

1336
00:42:59,300 --> 00:42:59,840
Right. It's like,

1337
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:00,080
all right,

1338
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:00,440
let's just,

1339
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:01,610
can we move it to anger?

1340
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,320
But then when they move it to anger,

1341
00:43:03,350 --> 00:43:04,550
their friends and family are like,

1342
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,110
dude, why are you so angry?

1343
00:43:06,110 --> 00:43:07,880
So like pushes them back down to depression,

1344
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,230
which I thought was fascinating.

1345
00:43:09,230 --> 00:43:09,890
And one of the hard,

1346
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,470
one of the reasons it's so hard for people,

1347
00:43:12,470 --> 00:43:13,400
if they're at that,

1348
00:43:13,670 --> 00:43:17,240
that place to get out of it because the,

1349
00:43:17,240 --> 00:43:19,580
the depression is all internal.

1350
00:43:19,770 --> 00:43:23,210
It's just like externally people don't realize how much is going

1351
00:43:23,210 --> 00:43:23,870
on internally,

1352
00:43:23,870 --> 00:43:24,860
but then to move it up,

1353
00:43:25,070 --> 00:43:26,990
some of that emotion starts to go a little bit more

1354
00:43:26,990 --> 00:43:27,980
external. People are like,

1355
00:43:27,980 --> 00:43:28,670
whoa, dude.

1356
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:31,430
So anyway,

1357
00:43:31,460 --> 00:43:32,480
I just thought it was fascinating.

1358
00:43:32,510 --> 00:43:34,070
It has nothing to do with this conversation.

1359
00:43:35,660 --> 00:43:36,200
You know,

1360
00:43:36,500 --> 00:43:37,250
it's just,

1361
00:43:37,460 --> 00:43:40,220
you're dying to get from zero to 10 or from 10

1362
00:43:40,220 --> 00:43:40,730
to zero.

1363
00:43:40,730 --> 00:43:41,150
It's like,

1364
00:43:41,150 --> 00:43:45,950
can we just change our outlook on this a little bit?

1365
00:43:46,310 --> 00:43:51,470
And can we be cognizant of just what is going on

1366
00:43:51,470 --> 00:43:52,130
under the surface,

1367
00:43:52,130 --> 00:43:53,570
by, by being in touch with them,

1368
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:54,200
how we're feeling?

1369
00:43:55,070 --> 00:43:56,930
Yeah. What else now that you say that I think maybe

1370
00:43:56,930 --> 00:44:01,010
an exercise I should do like today is to journal about

1371
00:44:01,010 --> 00:44:04,670
it. Like to understand your own feelings is to write.

1372
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,660
Yeah. I want to give you a prompt to have,

1373
00:44:08,720 --> 00:44:11,030
if I had a hundred thousand dollars to spend frivolously,

1374
00:44:11,030 --> 00:44:11,660
how would I do it?

1375
00:44:11,780 --> 00:44:12,770
Oh my Gosh,

1376
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,310
You're going to put yourself on it.

1377
00:44:16,310 --> 00:44:17,420
And you're going to come back to me.

1378
00:44:17,540 --> 00:44:20,960
We're going to have the next Heather episode here.

1379
00:44:21,250 --> 00:44:23,180
Heather's going to spend a hundred dollars on,

1380
00:44:23,450 --> 00:44:23,960
maybe I'll,

1381
00:44:24,020 --> 00:44:25,490
I'll do the same exercise.

1382
00:44:25,490 --> 00:44:27,720
And I know exactly what mine would be.

1383
00:44:28,250 --> 00:44:30,170
Although can it not be traveled with my family?

1384
00:44:30,170 --> 00:44:31,350
It has to be just travel me.

1385
00:44:31,380 --> 00:44:34,530
Yeah. It Has to be something that's so frivolous that you

1386
00:44:34,530 --> 00:44:36,420
can't find a meaning in.

1387
00:44:36,420 --> 00:44:36,960
You know what I mean?

1388
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,010
Like saying,

1389
00:44:38,070 --> 00:44:39,300
oh, well it's for my family.

1390
00:44:39,300 --> 00:44:40,620
So I'm creating this experience.

1391
00:44:40,620 --> 00:44:43,350
So it has to be like almost ridiculous,

1392
00:44:44,100 --> 00:44:44,850
Like a horse.

1393
00:44:46,710 --> 00:44:49,380
I feel like that's too practical because,

1394
00:44:51,450 --> 00:44:53,400
Because let's say you have all the horses,

1395
00:44:53,460 --> 00:44:54,120
if okay,

1396
00:44:55,980 --> 00:44:57,660
Give up Morocco and I'm not giving him up.

1397
00:44:58,590 --> 00:44:59,040
Oh no,

1398
00:44:59,040 --> 00:44:59,260
no, no,

1399
00:44:59,280 --> 00:44:59,480
no, no,

1400
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,410
no. Let's say you could have as many horses as you

1401
00:45:01,410 --> 00:45:02,340
want because you have to have them money.

1402
00:45:02,610 --> 00:45:04,320
Then I get practical and I have to like ride all

1403
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:04,860
these horses.

1404
00:45:04,860 --> 00:45:06,360
Take care of How many would you have?

1405
00:45:08,550 --> 00:45:09,060
Yeah. Okay.

1406
00:45:09,090 --> 00:45:10,230
We're going to be a two horse family.

1407
00:45:10,230 --> 00:45:11,370
The Lauren's is going to get her own.

1408
00:45:11,370 --> 00:45:11,790
And then we,

1409
00:45:11,790 --> 00:45:12,240
then we're good.

1410
00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:16,080
We got back up one slack,

1411
00:45:16,090 --> 00:45:16,470
you know,

1412
00:45:16,470 --> 00:45:17,310
a little off the,

1413
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,880
off the injured reserve for like this one,

1414
00:45:21,180 --> 00:45:22,140
but yeah.

1415
00:45:24,780 --> 00:45:25,020
All right.

1416
00:45:25,020 --> 00:45:26,310
I need to come up with this.

1417
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:28,110
I think this,

1418
00:45:28,110 --> 00:45:30,420
we should challenge our listeners as well.

1419
00:45:30,420 --> 00:45:34,500
If you have Hard buy an investment houses,

1420
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:35,610
that's not frivolous.

1421
00:45:35,670 --> 00:45:37,980
It's an investment that's practical.

1422
00:45:37,990 --> 00:45:40,350
Yeah. To practical.

1423
00:45:40,470 --> 00:45:44,930
Now obviously we're making judgements and scale about what's practical.

1424
00:45:44,940 --> 00:45:46,260
Not, but it can't be,

1425
00:45:46,260 --> 00:45:46,830
let's say,

1426
00:45:46,890 --> 00:45:47,250
you know,

1427
00:45:47,250 --> 00:45:48,660
your house is paid for,

1428
00:45:48,900 --> 00:45:50,490
you have vacation homes,

1429
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,110
you have your cars,

1430
00:45:52,170 --> 00:45:53,340
you have your horses.

1431
00:45:53,340 --> 00:45:53,910
Like you have,

1432
00:45:54,660 --> 00:45:55,650
You don't have like,

1433
00:45:55,650 --> 00:46:00,300
truly this is extra money that you are not allowed to

1434
00:46:00,330 --> 00:46:01,470
put in your retirement,

1435
00:46:01,710 --> 00:46:02,520
pay for your house.

1436
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:03,210
Like all of that stuff.

1437
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,900
Yes. And you can't gift it right.

1438
00:46:07,730 --> 00:46:10,620
Has to be for you To have to think about this.

1439
00:46:10,620 --> 00:46:11,910
We're going to have to record a,

1440
00:46:12,310 --> 00:46:13,800
a little quick bonus.

1441
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,990
So we'll put it on like a Thursday bonus episode of

1442
00:46:15,990 --> 00:46:16,980
like what we would do with her.

1443
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,170
I can promise you,

1444
00:46:19,260 --> 00:46:21,150
I'm not buying one of these air mez bags.

1445
00:46:21,150 --> 00:46:21,870
Not even new.

1446
00:46:24,900 --> 00:46:27,060
No. Oh man.

1447
00:46:29,940 --> 00:46:31,350
This starts to come up for me.

1448
00:46:31,350 --> 00:46:31,830
Cause I'm like,

1449
00:46:31,830 --> 00:46:34,050
well, I would like travel the world,

1450
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,750
but then it leads into guilt of,

1451
00:46:36,750 --> 00:46:37,440
I can't do that.

1452
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:38,010
I have a family.

1453
00:46:38,010 --> 00:46:38,850
I have responsibilities.

1454
00:46:40,130 --> 00:46:41,390
Well, that's another issue.

1455
00:46:41,390 --> 00:46:41,750
Isn't it?

1456
00:46:44,810 --> 00:46:48,800
These, these issues are related in interconnected.

1457
00:46:51,720 --> 00:46:53,570
We're going to have to do this in a future episode

1458
00:46:53,570 --> 00:46:55,580
and we just have to talk through it because I'm going

1459
00:46:55,580 --> 00:46:57,590
to, there's going to be all sorts of feeling that this

1460
00:46:57,620 --> 00:46:58,370
more layers there.

1461
00:46:58,430 --> 00:46:59,240
Oh my gosh.

1462
00:46:59,390 --> 00:46:59,870
Well, listen,

1463
00:46:59,870 --> 00:47:03,140
I want to thank you so much for taking this emergency

1464
00:47:03,140 --> 00:47:07,430
SOS call because I really didn't have anyone to turn to,

1465
00:47:07,430 --> 00:47:08,360
to talk about this.

1466
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:09,320
Like in here's what I mean,

1467
00:47:09,460 --> 00:47:12,740
be careful be careful because when I go to my friends

1468
00:47:12,740 --> 00:47:14,360
and family and I share this story,

1469
00:47:14,750 --> 00:47:17,000
all they do is affirm me and agree with me.

1470
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,020
Right, right.

1471
00:47:21,140 --> 00:47:22,040
That's frivolous.

1472
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:23,330
Yeah. You're right.

1473
00:47:23,330 --> 00:47:24,080
And then we just like,

1474
00:47:24,170 --> 00:47:26,150
we just like build on the feet on each other.

1475
00:47:26,390 --> 00:47:29,260
So I knew I wanted to come with you because to

1476
00:47:29,260 --> 00:47:30,580
come to you because you would be like,

1477
00:47:30,610 --> 00:47:31,270
okay, well,

1478
00:47:31,540 --> 00:47:32,950
how can we look at this a different way?

1479
00:47:32,950 --> 00:47:34,810
What's a different story we can tell ourselves,

1480
00:47:35,110 --> 00:47:36,070
is that really?

1481
00:47:36,070 --> 00:47:36,490
Is it,

1482
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,610
is it bad that somebody would do something like that?

1483
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,560
And w w how so,

1484
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:42,520
why and what,

1485
00:47:42,530 --> 00:47:43,510
what are you telling yourself?

1486
00:47:43,510 --> 00:47:45,880
That means it's just great to talk to somebody who can

1487
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,820
look at this from different angles instead of just the affirming.

1488
00:47:48,970 --> 00:47:49,540
Now, listen,

1489
00:47:49,750 --> 00:47:51,670
if you have a trigger and you need,

1490
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:52,120
you know,

1491
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:53,110
some affirmation,

1492
00:47:53,110 --> 00:47:54,430
okay, go get your affirmation,

1493
00:47:54,430 --> 00:47:55,840
but then go get some real help.

1494
00:47:57,100 --> 00:48:00,040
Post it in our groups and the hair of the dog.

1495
00:48:00,070 --> 00:48:02,830
Cademy and our community tag us,

1496
00:48:03,490 --> 00:48:04,780
man. Let's hear it.

1497
00:48:04,780 --> 00:48:06,070
Love to hear like,

1498
00:48:06,220 --> 00:48:09,760
you love helping you guys get past this stuff and look

1499
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:10,090
at it.

1500
00:48:10,090 --> 00:48:10,930
And the new perspective.

1501
00:48:10,930 --> 00:48:13,180
So let us know,

1502
00:48:13,660 --> 00:48:14,380
oh my gosh,

1503
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,380
Heather, this has been so good.

1504
00:48:17,710 --> 00:48:18,850
I'm so excited.

1505
00:48:19,900 --> 00:48:21,370
Next time this comes up and you'd be like,

1506
00:48:21,370 --> 00:48:22,840
whatever, $35,000.

1507
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:23,290
No problem.

1508
00:48:23,290 --> 00:48:25,690
Someone's going to spend like $350,000

1509
00:48:25,690 --> 00:48:26,770
on something for less than that.

1510
00:48:26,770 --> 00:48:27,820
It's going to be a whole new you're like,

1511
00:48:33,730 --> 00:48:34,330
I love it though.

1512
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:35,350
This isn't so good.

1513
00:48:35,350 --> 00:48:38,110
And I hope you guys have found it helpful as well.

1514
00:48:39,100 --> 00:48:39,730
You know,

1515
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,820
you'll see us again on a future podcast coming up soon

1516
00:48:42,910 --> 00:48:44,380
until then have a great week.

1517
00:48:44,410 --> 00:48:44,860
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