When the scales tip and our health teeters, it's time to take a hard look at our nutrition and fitness regimes. This week, join me, Anthony Amen, as I sit with the remarkable Amy, a former pharmacy aficionado turned nutrition coach who's here to dispel the myths surrounding our diets. Prepare to be enlightened on the staggering effects of your food choices as Amy recounts her transformative journey from yo-yo diets to the sustainable pursuit of health, especially through the treacherous landscape of perimenopause.
The conversation heats up as we dissect the macronutrient trio—proteins, fats, and carbohydrates—that govern our wellbeing. Amy's expertise shines as we emphasize the underrated hero of the diet world: protein. Not just a gym buff's ally, protein is crucial for everyone, particularly as we age. We'll also navigate the complexities of plant-based diets, underscoring the importance of strategic supplementation. If you've ever been tangled in the web of nutritional hearsay, let us guide you towards the truth about the integral role of balanced macros and thoughtful eating.
But it's not all about what's on your plate—sometimes, it's about what's in your medicine cabinet. We wrap up our chat by examining the controversial rise of GLP-1 agonist medications like Wagobi and Ozempic, dissecting the allure and hidden perils of such lifestyle drugs. As Amy and I advocate for strength-building over pill-popping and coaching over quick fixes, we remind listeners that the path to true health is through informed, conscious choices. Buckle up for an episode that might just redefine the way you look at food, fitness, and the fine line between medicine and dependency.
When the scales tip and our health teeters, it's time to take a hard look at our nutrition and fitness regimes. This week, join me, Anthony Amen, as I sit with the remarkable Amy, a former pharmacy aficionado turned nutrition coach who's here to dispel the myths surrounding our diets. Prepare to be enlightened on the staggering effects of your food choices as Amy recounts her transformative journey from yo-yo diets to the sustainable pursuit of health, especially through the treacherous landscape of perimenopause.
The conversation heats up as we dissect the macronutrient trio—proteins, fats, and carbohydrates—that govern our wellbeing. Amy's expertise shines as we emphasize the underrated hero of the diet world: protein. Not just a gym buff's ally, protein is crucial for everyone, particularly as we age. We'll also navigate the complexities of plant-based diets, underscoring the importance of strategic supplementation. If you've ever been tangled in the web of nutritional hearsay, let us guide you towards the truth about the integral role of balanced macros and thoughtful eating.
But it's not all about what's on your plate—sometimes, it's about what's in your medicine cabinet. We wrap up our chat by examining the controversial rise of GLP-1 agonist medications like Wagobi and Ozempic, dissecting the allure and hidden perils of such lifestyle drugs. As Amy and I advocate for strength-building over pill-popping and coaching over quick fixes, we remind listeners that the path to true health is through informed, conscious choices. Buckle up for an episode that might just redefine the way you look at food, fitness, and the fine line between medicine and dependency.
Hello and welcome to Help. Spin is your Defined. I'm your host, anthony Menn, and welcome to another fabulous week and a fabulous Monday. You're all super excited to be here because we all know we're all gonna see we're gonna start on Mondays and we never do so. Yes, I'm gonna bring up a point from last week Don't start Monday, start today. So that's what they're doing. Let's talk about the number one thing people need help with, and that is nutrition. So welcome to the show, amy. It is a pleasure to have you today.
Speaker 2:Hey, thanks, anthony, I like that. Don't start Monday, start today. I'm gonna have to start using that. I like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So one is priorities, Like. Even people like book their initial evaluations with us for training. If they don't book for the 48 hours they ain't coming. Because it's priorities, it is If I know, this comes up, this comes up, this comes up. No, we gotta hop Now. Let's not put this off, let's go now. I did it, I did a whole.
Speaker 2:Instagram reel on priorities. That it's. And here's the other time I'm talking about nutrition it's. You come up with all the excuses. Don't come up with excuses. Just say it's not a priority. It's not an excuse. It's like oh, I can't afford nutrition coaching, I can't afford personal training, but then you're in Starbucks line every single day or you go out to eat every single day and you spend $100 here, but you won't spend $100 on coaching or personal training. Just say what it is it's not a priority.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I couldn't agree more. But before we talk about all of that fun stuff to really excited about, let's talk about you and how you got into the nutrition field.
Speaker 2:I kind of started because I was a group fitness instructor when I was going to University of Toledo in Toledo, ohio. As a pharmacy, a pharmacy major, I started teaching aerobics and was kind of like all females and I'm seeing it more in the men population too that dieting, dieting, yo-yo big time and didn't have a really good relationship with food. But back in the day and I'm going to give my kind of age it was in the 80s, it was low fat craze and we didn't know anything about nutrition. We really didn't. We've come a long way with nutrition just in the last six to seven years, and so I taught all through pharmacy school, became a pharmacist, still kept teaching.
Speaker 2:One of the things that people always ask you when you're a fitness pro and in front of people, and then what they also ask you as a pharmacist is how can I lose weight? Can I take this supplement? Will this help me lose weight? What can I do? And me, being the person I am, I'm all about education and learning, and so I would go and get these nutrition certifications and started nutrition coaching.
Speaker 2:The problem is and we don't know what we don't know. I'm just going to tell you that right now, because I'll throw myself under the bus. I didn't know what I didn't know. It was all calories inverse calories out. It really wasn't nutrition, it was all based upon calories. It was based upon your energy expenditure. We know that doesn't work now At least most of us do but we still have all these myths that we believe calories inverse calories out. They have to always be in this kind of deficit. Yes and no, we can dive into that, and I was finding it with myself. I would do my six week programs and yeah, I would have great results, but then it would all come back plus more.
Speaker 2:And I was seeing that with my clients. And how frustrating is that as a nutrition coach, as a person who's teaching fitness classes, and I was like, okay, something's up. But I'm still doing it because once again, I didn't know what I didn't know. I am a long-term care pharmacist, geriatrics, older population and seeing younger and younger people coming into my facilities, which was really bothersome. It was diabetes and heart conditions and it's like, okay, why am I seeing people my age coming in? This is just crazy. And then, okay, hormones kick in with me and now I'm doing perimenopause menopause and I am gaining weight and gaining inches like crazy, and there is nothing I can do. It's frustrating, I am pissed, I am frustrated and I'm like, okay, the pressure sometimes that aerobics instructors are in, being that person in front of a group who's looking at you going well, if she can't figure this out how am I going to figure this out?
Speaker 2:And it's a lot of pressure, and I was also what's called a master trainer for a program and I was in videos and the up and down dieting that I would do to get video ready or photo shoot ready probably wasn't the best thing for my body. I followed some people who were doing a program called fast away to fat loss and they were looking great. Not only were they looking great, they were feeling great and they were my age. They were having the same issues I was having and I'm like you know what. I need to become a student again. I need to figure out what's going on. I need to dive in and just do something different, because I always tell myself and I tell my clients what I was doing was working. I wouldn't be here. And I dived in and what was missing was the science. What was missing was the nutrition not calories nutrition.
Speaker 2:And when I started diving in and really going through the program, all of a sudden my headaches were gone, the inflammation was gone, inches started going away not in the first six weeks, but in six months because I was starting to feed my body, I was starting to actually give it what it needed and building muscle. That was the key and I knew that one. I was having this issue as an instructor midlife. There were other people that too, what I was doing all through my twenties, thirties and forties set me up for what I was experiencing now, and then also that if I was having this, everybody else was having this too, and I needed to help those people who were having the same experiences that I was and frustrated and not liking what they see in the mirror.
Speaker 2:And then I would say, maybe the selfish part of it was I don't want you in my nursing homes, I don't want anybody to end up, because of lifestyle choices that are preventable, to be in a nursing home. Now will things happen? Absolutely, but if we can prevent most of that, we have the power to change our destiny. How cool is that? So that's kind of like the triple effect. Pharmacist, nutrition coach, fitness instructor.
Speaker 1:A little bit of everything, yeah yeah, which is just fun. I'm gonna pick up a couple of little things you said, just cause I'm not having my own theories and yet again we're going to preface yes, this is a theory, this isn't science-based yet.
Speaker 1:But my personal opinion is that, when it comes to dieting and starving your body of food, the more you do it, the more your body holds on to food, the worse you are processing calories and therefore decrease your calorie deficit and make it harder and harder for you as you get older. And if you compare that to somebody like myself who hasn't ever intentionally eaten less since the day it was born, like I don't have that issue and everyone was like, how do you eat so much? One, strength training, having a lot of muscle in my body, being a good guy, and then two, I never died in a day in my life. I was never just like, okay, I'm gonna eat too few, but I'm like I'm gonna eat 7,000 calories, senator, let's go.
Speaker 2:Well, because, if you think about it, so every time you yo-yo diet, I don't care what anybody says, you're not burning fat, and that's what it's like oh, do this 10 days, you're going to lose fat. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You're not diet, you're not eating. Okay, you might lose a little bit of fat, but your body needs amino acids. It's going to get from muscle. So every time we did one of those crash diets, we lost muscle. Every time you lose muscle, you slow your metabolism down. So add that up of doing that over and over and over for years, you hit your 40s and it was like oh, it's because I hit my 40s, that's why no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2:It's everything that we did up until we hit our 40s that caused the issue, that caused all the holding onto fat reserves, because you don't feel your body. Your body's going into, it's going into survival mode. Our bodies are smart. That's their number one goal is how do I keep you alive? Well, it's not by burning the fat, it's burning muscle, because fat's going to be the last thing and we think that it's. We think it's fat, and then we don't understand why, when we start eating again. It all comes back, plus more, because you're slow to metabolism down. So, yeah, there is a science base for what you're talking about. It's and it has to do with leptin and grayling, and it's absolutely true. If you look at somebody who has been quote unquote healthy and has been lifting weights and has has had good aesthetics and eats, well, yeah, they may have never died in their life and you're like, well, how is it possible that you've stayed this way? It's like because I've never died into my life. And you're it's exactly true.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I keep hearing them well, wait till you're in your 20s, and then wait till you're in your 30s, and now I'm going to get to 40. I'll let you all know, but I just, I just, I'm still waiting. So, yeah, if I gained a couple little extra pounds, yeah, I'm not walking 15 miles like I used to yard work. Now it's run a business and do podcasts very sedentary activities. But so my point being it's I'm not going to be like people think I'm gonna look like in my 40s by the time I hit 40, and I'm still going to eat way more food than you eat and I'm still going to devour all of that and you're going to be like I don't understand. You need to have pasta for one meal yet Because it burned it off.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you're lifting weights and so, for a male especially, you're keeping your testosterone levels up, and I mean you're doing all the things right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I totally agree, and I want to start talking a little bit more specifically, because enough about me knowing where the gist of shit. So people, again, they need to be quiet. Let's give us some tips. So let's talk about first a basic approach of what are macronutrients, because we really haven't even said what the three macronutrients are in a long time. So why don't you just tell us briefly what are the three macronutrients and then a couple of words of what they each do?
Speaker 2:Okay. So macronutrients are pretty much your building blocks, your big food groups. So your micronutrients are your vitamins and minerals. Your macronutrients are protein, fats and carbohydrates. And you know I might piss people off Calories mean absolutely nothing. I don't care if you think that I need to do 1200 calories a day. That is so wrong. That's with keeping you in the place that you are Same with men. It's like a certain amount of calories, I think. Consume all these calories. No, it comes down to quality and that is what kind of protein are you getting, what kind of fat are you getting and what kind of carbs you're getting? And here's why that makes so much sense and why you need this.
Speaker 2:Your body is a chemical reaction. There are enzymes and there are hormones and everything requires nutrients. It doesn't require calories, it requires nutrients. And for your body to work optimally I mean, I like to say I am a high performance car. I'm not going to roll up to Walmart and get the cheapest gas for my car. I need the expensive stuff. Same thing with your body. You need the real stuff in order for your body to do the things that you absolutely want. And for most women it's to be a smaller size, it's not the weight that equals the size, and skinny does not equal healthy. So when you look at protein and fats and carbohydrates and getting a certain percentage of each based upon your activity level, your age, your height, and when you look at weight for some of those things, then you will start seeing a much better outcome.
Speaker 2:And before you say I'm not tracking macros because that just puts me in a bad spot, I get it. I was there too. I'm like I was. I could tell you how many calories an apple had. I could tell you how many calories I needed to get to 1200 calories. And that was the problem. When I started tracking macronutrients and how much I needed, it was mind blowing how much I was under eating. Not overeating, I was under eating. And what we are as a society is that we are overfed, undernourished, which means that we have a way too much ultra process food, way too much junk food, and we're overfed with that, but there are no nutrients in that food that we are consuming. And so when you start giving your body the right things the right amount of protein, the right amount of fat, the right amount of carbohydrates your thyroid is going to be freaking happy and you can now keep muscle and build muscle, which is so important for longevity.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I was looking for the simple.
Speaker 2:You're talking about pharmacists here.
Speaker 1:I love the explanation. You did mention free show, so you know she talks about paragraphs, so now I understand. But yeah, I totally agree with what you said as far as it's tracking macros. I mean, if you guys want to go back two years, at this point I don't even know, I don't know how many years we've been in this podcast, but I did a whole episode on what I consider the most important macro. Before I mention it what it is, I wanna hear Amy guess, because I like having arguments.
Speaker 2:So the most important macro Protein.
Speaker 1:Ah darn it, we're gonna agree yeah.
Speaker 2:And the reason protein is because we are very much protein deficient. We got scared of protein. Now that's not saying I am not for the carnivore diet. I'm gonna tell you right there that I don't agree with the carnivore diet. You still need fats, you still need carbohydrates, but we do need protein, and we need more than we think we do. Especially as we age, we do not break down protein as well, and so, especially when you hit 40s, 50s, midlife, protein is absolutely essential, because what I see in my nursing homes and it's you know I kinda see what can happen if you don't do certain things. Most people come in with a protein deficit. Most people come in not consuming enough protein, that they do have muscle wasting, that they're weak, that they're frail, and that is something that you definitely don't want. You'd want to support your musculoskeletal system, you don't want to fall. So I was yes, definitely protein. So we agree on that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I did a whole Port of Pem and episode of the importance of protein and I really wanna stress enough. If you don't wanna count macros and you don't wanna sit there and bore yourself, at a bare minimum, just count protein, write it on a freaking board, track it on your phone, just say oh, this is 40 grams, so I ate 40 grams of protein. Okay, I ate this amount of protein. But for the love of God, don't sit here and tell me that you're gonna eat spinach and get enough protein through spinach because it lacks certain amino acids and then you're gonna have to go to the research to figure out what amino acids you're lacking in that spinach protein in order to get a complete protein. And by the time you figure it all out, you're not gonna eat, because you spent three hours behind a computer researching what foods pair well together for your amino acid profile. So just eat meat products, please.
Speaker 1:Veganism and I'm only gonna bring this up I'm gonna get all that, but okay, veganism is the top five worst diet you can do. I understand if you have moral issues, whatever you can make it work, but nutrition-wise, if you have to supplement meaning you have to add supplements to your diet it is not a good diet. I wanna-.
Speaker 2:And if you are doing veganism and you're not supplementing B12s, you better be. I was getting there, yeah.
Speaker 1:I literally wrote a question on the board because I hate veganism. I said what vitamin B product can only be found in animal products? And people didn't know it's like it's B12. B12. Okay, a lot of people have vitamin B12 deficiency because you are eating enough meat and the what's the word. But, like the stigmatism I guess that red meat has in our society right now, I feel like people just pick one thing and say that's really bad for you. First it was fat Stay away from fat. Then it was carbs.
Speaker 2:So this is what pisses me off, and I love that I can talk like this with you, because this is what kills me. And I'll get somebody and I coach people all over the world and all over the United States and they'll come to me and they'll say I have high cholesterol and my doctor told me to stop eating eggs. And I give them this kind of like blank stare and then like cause we're on Zoom usually and I'm like we're on the phone, I'm like, okay, did they say anything about alcohol? Did they say anything about all the protein bars with all the sugar that you're ingesting? Oh no, they just said to quit eating my eggs every morning.
Speaker 2:And that just infuriates me, because eggs are not the villain. It is sugar, it's alcohol, it's processed foods. That's causing your cholesterol, your triglycerides, to increase and causing inflammation. It's not eggs. The amount of cholesterol that we intake has been studied and studied and studied and shows that it really doesn't affect our total cholesterol. It's the cholesterol that we're making and when we are consuming inflammatory foods, that's what's causing our cholesterol to go up, not freaking eggs. So enjoy the eggs. I like them over easy. Two points.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:My brother's the doctor and we argue of nutrition every time we hang out. So three years ago I made a comment to my mom cause she's like I have high cholesterol, I need to stop eating eggs. And I was like diet cholesterol, it doesn't raise your cholesterol. I'm a doctor. That's wrong screaming, cause he thinks screaming makes you win an argument and I'm just like nah, you're wrong.
Speaker 2:And what I really like about it they don't get any nutrition. They get very, very little nutrition in school.
Speaker 1:You're. A half later he comes to me, pulls me aside. You're like 95%, right? I looked into it. Okay, oh, take 95%, right? Oh, whatever it's like being like, I eat, if you want to know, five to six eggs not egg whites eggs almost every morning, and then at night I eat two filets. Like you want to talk about things that are high in cholesterol, that are going to raise my cholesterol, but I'm not sitting here.
Speaker 2:I don't ask for the last time any piece of candy, I don't even know, yeah, and cause you're fueling your body and you're giving it what it needs. When your body is craving sugar is because you are under eating. It's because you are a sugar burner and not a fat burner, and that's what people don't understand. I'm hungry every two hours. Well, cause, I'm going to tell you right now, your blood sugar is not balanced and you're not eating, right?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that's my spirit about protein and cholesterol. But, amy, is there anything else you want to mention about as far as actionable tips to take to help track more accurately and help prevent your dieting?
Speaker 2:So what I would say is every single time that you eat, I want you to focus on protein. First, because we are very carb heavy, meaning that we build our meals around carbohydrates Instead of we should be building our meals around protein. So protein should be front center. It's right there. For females, you should be anywhere between 80 to 100 grams of protein per day 80 to 100. And that might freak some of you out Now does that mean you start there? No, you may have to do gradual, but every single time you eat, you should have a protein, you should have a fat, you should have a carbohydrate. That's gonna help balance your blood sugar. And think about it as they say well, four ounces is your palm. Well, I'm gonna tell you to do your palm and palm and a half, or maybe two, because it's just four ounces is not enough. You're gonna get maybe 20 grams times three, 60 grams per day. Guess what you're under. So you actually need more than you really think you do. So that would be my tip is to protein every single meal.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, even if you wanted to do a simple calculation for those that like math 0.8 grams per lean body pounds. So whatever your body fat percentage is, you could take that away from your weight. Then you get a number and that number should be for females should be 0.8, men I like to stick them one 1.1, depending how much you weight lift, yeah, and that's gonna be around 185 to 200 grams of protein a day. That's a lot of freaking protein.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm at 124. Yeah, I'm at 124. Yeah, that's my point.
Speaker 1:Like, you need that amount of protein. If you don't, I see it in the gym Like that's the first place I'm gonna see it in my body. I know I'm working out and like wow, I've been lacking and going up in weights and I don't look any different.
Speaker 2:Oh, maybe it's that I need a protein, or maybe I drink too much alcohol, but Well and then on the flip side, I see it because I still teach fitness classes and I see it with under eating and not getting enough protein, the inflammation, the apple shapes. You know it's the under eating. I can tell that they're under eating, I can tell they're not getting enough protein. I can see it in the hair, I can see it in the nails, I can see it in the skin, because they're still thinking that they have to start themselves and work out for hours and it's caught up with them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I couldn't agree more. So what about the carb craze? Because that's been the biggest.
Speaker 2:As a low carb.
Speaker 1:Yeah as in. I need to avoid carbs because they're dangerous.
Speaker 2:No, you need carbs. Our thyroid's need carbs, our thyroid's function on carbs. And the low carb craze is okay. I will give it to simple carbohydrates. If you can throw water on something and it dissolves, that's a simple carbohydrate.
Speaker 1:That's a nice analogy. You don't need it. I mean you can. I've never heard that.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So it's like you know you piece of bread, throw water on it. What happens? You know it's like does that happen to broccoli? No, that thing stays in shape. You know, as a kid they're like I can't eat this tree. But we're needing fiber.
Speaker 2:Which complex carbohydrates have? We need 25 grams per day. Most of my clients come in about eight grams a day. And carbs help us with brain function and I know I'm gonna get the people with the keto say but your body will do it. Yeah, remember I said your body's freaking smart. It will figure out how to survive. So you take away carbs, it's gonna figure out another mechanism. But for optimal performance, your body does need some carbs, but it needs good carbs. It needs carbs with vitamins and minerals. It doesn't need cakes, pastries, all that kind of stuff. Now can you have those? Absolutely, because that's called life, but it's not where you're gonna be getting your carbs every day. So, yes, unique carbs, complex oatmeal, rice. Yes, you can have bananas. Yes, you can have potatoes. Those are not villains. It's how much you eat, in what ratio you eat it with with protein and fat, and just being smart about it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I couldn't. I agree with you, but five, five words is everything. The only groups of people that I would say be wary which I think I'm learning I'm in, is those are separate from really bad IBS.
Speaker 2:Yes, too high on fiber food yeah.
Speaker 1:Screw me up yeah you do have IBS.
Speaker 2:That's the only caveat if you have some other GI issues. But you still wanna try to get some fiber. We know that fiber helps look up microbiome. We know that fiber can possibly help prevent dementia and Alzheimer's.
Speaker 1:There's other things that fiber does, probiotics and probiotics which you could find from raw, let me emphasize the raw part fruits and veggies, because once you cook something, what do you? Do you count?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then you know, you might think about fiber being the dishwasher for your intestines. I mean, that's what it does, that's fine, yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm calling analogies.
Speaker 2:I love stories and analogies.
Speaker 1:I wanna ask you a question that we didn't prep for Prusa, but it's been a topic of mind over the last two months and you're a pharmacist, so you know where I'm going with this. What about that fun drug everybody's been using called Ozympic?
Speaker 2:Oh, glp1s look gone like peptides. So the GLP1 is a hormone in your gut. It is a fabulous discovery. So let me first say that. So it's discovery.
Speaker 2:I'm a pharmacist who prefers that you're not on medication. By the way, I would like you to do everything holistically if you can. There is a purpose for medication, but medication is a treatment. It's not a cure. My problem with Wagobi, ozympic, lingero and there's gonna be some other ones coming out within the next six months is that we're starting to use it as a lifestyle drug. We're start using it as a boutique drug.
Speaker 2:Here's the problem. You need to go in with your eyes wide open and if you are on this medication, you have got to get your protein in. And here are the reasons. What's going on? How it works, is it shuts down your appetite, and most people are like yes, that's exactly what I need. You can shut down your appetite just by fueling your body right, just by eating protein, and that will stimulate your GLP1 normally, because we all have that GLP1 in our stomach. It's a hormone. The horrible, horrible side effect is that it can shut down your GI tract permanently. It's called gastroparesis. It paralyzes it. That is not reversible. So now you're going to be living with this black bear terms disease condition for the rest of your life.
Speaker 2:You also didn't learn how to eat. You also didn't deal with your behaviors and your habits. Because, let's face it, if you could give somebody a diet, I could get somebody to get an attrition and say this is what you need to eat. But if you go to Ben and Jerry's when you're stressed, if you don't eat when you're stressed, if you are like I'm not going to change my habit of going through Starbucks every day or getting Wendy's or Taco Bell on the way at home at night, it doesn't matter. You've got to change your behaviors. You got to change your beliefs. A GOP one doesn't do that. It just dampens your thought process. It dampens being hungry. Here's the other problem. You are not eating. Okay.
Speaker 2:So where's your body getting its nutrition from? It's going to take it from muscle, because it needs amino acids. It's not taking from fat. Why do you think we have ozepic face and ozepic butt? It's not the fat that it's taking, it's the muscle. Muscle is what gives you shape.
Speaker 2:Then, for females, this should be really scary. You need vitamins and minerals. Where do you think that's going to come from? It's coming from your bones. So now we're looking at osteoporosis. What I think we're going to be seeing in the next five years and feel free to quote me on this in five years, when we start seeing it is that I'm going to call it old lady syndrome and it might be old man syndrome is that we're going to see 35 year olds, 40 year olds who look like they're 80 because they are going to have lifestyle aging diseases Diseases of frailty, of bone loss, osteoporosis, falls, hip fractures, lack of energy.
Speaker 2:That is scary, because skinny does not equal healthy and we have to change that narrative that you don't have to be a size two or whatever. You don't have to have a six pack and be just totally ripped to be healthy. We need to think about it as an inside job. What are we doing to our inside? How are we helping our cholesterol, our hypertension, our blood pressure, our diabetes or prediabetes? Not by not eating. We need to eat the real foods. We need to lift weights. We need to move. That's what we need to do.
Speaker 2:So if you're going to do GLP once, please, please, work with somebody, please get in touch with me or whoever. Make sure you're working with a nutrition coach. Make sure you're working with somebody who's making you're getting strength building, because you've got to keep that muscle and you've got to build that muscle. And if you find that you're on a GLP one, you're scared to death, because that's the other problem. It's going to start causing psychological dependence. You're scared to death, you go off of it. You're going to start gaining weight Once again. You need to be working with a nutrition coach so that making sure you're getting that protein, so that we can prevent that rapid waking.
Speaker 1:That was great. I knew I was asking the right person. I want to add a couple of things that I've heard on my side of the realm of it. Yeah, so first, like I said, a lot of my family's PA is doctors, all that stuff those that work in the emergency room are seeing higher rates of kidney issues and kidney failures directly linked to those drugs. So that's the first point.
Speaker 2:I've directly seen that too, and it's scary, yeah, so that blows my mind.
Speaker 1:The second side of it is I'm friends with someone who works specifically in the insurance world and he is dead on set like you. He said in five years this is going to be the biggest class action lawsuit since taxicoding. He said I promise you you're going to see all of these issues come about with thyroid. He mentioned kidney. I don't even tell him it kidney, and they're going to get sued at the Bejesus, but they don't make millions beforehand. That's the second side of it. The third side of it, which is just like a no shit, which you mentioned already, but our local news station breaking study of 30 people start ozampic gained all that weight back plus 10% after the next three months being off of it. Yeah, like no shit. You didn't learn anything.
Speaker 2:You didn't learn anything. You lost muscle, you decreased your metabolism and so and then what sucks with the psyche part of that is now you feel like a failure. Now you feel like nothing's going to work for you and I always get. But I've tried everything. I've tried everything. I'm like, okay, really be honest with yourself. Have you really tried everything? Or you tried every diet out there? Because we need to change the narrative and saying diets suck, diet don't serve you.
Speaker 2:Have you really looked at increasing your health and eating for health and then also building muscle? And I can guarantee probably 90% of the people who say they've tried everything have not tried that. Because you know what it's slow. Building muscle is slow. Learning how to eat right slow takes time. It's not Amazon Prime. It doesn't show up in freaking two days. It doesn't. You know. It's not like 10 days out and I'm gonna be ready for the wedding, the high school reunion or drop 20 pounds. We want all that stuff now. What we have to realize is that health, fitness, wellness is a lifelong journey and you have to know, hey, if it's not Monday, you start today and you are starting today on your lifelong journey, and be okay with the process, be okay with the slow, because I will guarantee you will feel better, you'll be stronger, you'll have more energy, you'll sleep better the cascade effect is amazing and you won't be deprived or chained to an injection every week.
Speaker 1:I would say the gold standard. If you can honestly give strength training and just to talk specifically to that, because that's my realm six months of commitment where you're coming at least three days a week, I guarantee you're gonna look different and you're gonna feel different.
Speaker 2:Muscle changes the shape of your body.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I'm not talking six days.
Speaker 2:No, six months. And here's why and I love stories and analogies. You know, james Clear has talked about a ice cube and this is what happened to me. So six weeks in my program, yes, I start losing inflammation, my rings fit, but my body hadn't really changed shape yet Six months. There was one month I lost seven inches from my hips Crazy. And it wasn't because of a quick fix, it was because I call it the ice cube theory. An ice cube is solid at 32 degrees, at 31 degrees, but it's a liquid at 33. Well, it didn't just become a liquid at 33 degrees. I didn't just lose all those inches that month. What happened was at 31, 32,. You know before that, 29, 27, 26,.
Speaker 2:The molecules start moving really, really fast to change it from a solid state to a liquid state. It's the same thing in our bodies. We start giving it the right nutrition, we start giving it the right things to do with the enzymatic processes to build muscle and your body's going. Oh my God, they're finally giving me the right kind of like when I say homeostasis, or the right conditions. I can now use fat for energy, I don't have to use the muscle, and I can keep the muscle and actually build the muscle. Guess what takes a lot of energy Keeping muscle and building muscle. And you have to eat to do that. So when you start giving your body all of that, conditioning inside the outside will catch up. You'll become that ice cube and all of a sudden it'll be. You'll be 32 degrees and it's 33, and you're like wait a minute, where'd all these inches go? It takes time. What people don't do is they don't give it time and they give up because they don't see the results right away. They don't understand. That's the inside job first.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love the visual aspect of the ice cube for those that are mathematical like mine. Just compound interest If you know what that is.
Speaker 2:you know how it works, yeah compound interest.
Speaker 1:Same thing with your body. But, amy, I do wanna summarize this and ask you the final two questions I have at the end of the show. The first one is what will be your take home message if you go to summer's episode? In one or two sentences.
Speaker 2:I would say protein, protein and, and, honestly, protein and strength training, and eat real food Three things Protein strength training and eat real food.
Speaker 1:I love it. And the second question how can people find you, get a hold of you and how can we learn more about Amy?
Speaker 2:Okay, let me give you two things. One you can either hit me on my website, amykwilsoncom, so that's A-M-Y-K-W-I-L-S-O-Ncom, and if you are an Instagram person, you can find me at the Nutrition Coach Pharmacist. That's the Nutrition Coach Pharmacist. And if you send me a message on either one and say you heard me on Anthony's podcast, you can just say Anthony, I will send you a free five day blueprint of fat loss, and what it has is lots of recipes. It kind of gives you a meal guide, it gives you some little bit of structure. And then it also has two of my favorite recipes that I usually only give my paying clients, and that is a chili recipe that is so easy and it's just like Wendy's, but it's so much better for you, and then also a Mexican soup recipe. Both are extremely easy. It's dump and go. That's the perfect part ever. So either amykwilsoncom or on Instagram, the Nutrition Coach Pharmacist.
Speaker 1:I love it. Thank you, amy, for coming on. I think you guys will listen to this week's episode of Public Fitness Redefined. Just a quick update. Start following us over on Rumble. We would greatly appreciate it. We are now on Rumble, so please go check us out there as well as order your. Order your platforms Spotify, apple podcast, all those fun ones Click, follow, share. It would mean the world. Thank you for joining us this week and please don't forget that this is medicine. Until next time, far Sanaa.