All Out in the Open
All Out in the Open is a resource for LGBTQ Latter-day Saints and those who love them. Our goal is to help listeners connect with themselves, with their families, with their community, and with God. Hosts Charlie Bird and Ben Schilaty help listeners open up to themselves and those around them. Clare Dalton digs into the scriptures and teaches how they can be a catalyst for personal revelation. Iese Wilson takes listeners on a tour of LGBTQ Latter-day Saints all over the Church and introduces us to modern day pioneers. Michael Soto and Liz Macdonald highlight the amazing work of those who are building and strengthening their communities. Learn more at www.alloutintheopen.org.
Episodes
200 episodes
Ben Reflects on Being Denied a Temple Recommend
This month on OPEN Up, Ben shares a deeply personal story about navigating the reactions of his local Church leadership after he performed a same-sex wedding. Ben and Charlie discuss the scrutiny that LGBTQ+ Latter-Day Saints often...
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Season 7
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Episode 31
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48:06
How Gather Conference is Changing Lives
In this special episode of THE Exclusive, Ben Schilaty is joined by Emilee Cutler and Spencer David Smith to talk about the upcoming Gather Conference, taking place this June in Provo, Utah. Now in its third year, the conference creates a Chris...
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Season 7
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Episode 30
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45:25
Seeing Beyond the Stereotype
This month on IN the Scriptures, Clare Dalton and Sean Nicholes—a gay Latter-day Saint, psychiatry resident, and member of the U.S. Air Force—explore Doctrine & Covenants 41-50.In these sections, the early Saints were dealing with r...
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Season 7
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Episode 29
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1:12:11
Merging Mexican Tradition with the Restored Gospel
In this month’s episode of OUT and About, Iese Wilson sits down with Liv Mendoza Haynes, a queer, Mexican Latter-Day Saint. Liv shares how her unique intersection of identities shapes her spiritual journey.Liv reflects on joining the Ch...
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Season 7
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Episode 28
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1:02:38
How to Love Your Neighbor
This week’s ALL Together guest Malissa Larson knows firsthand the power of community. A former homeless youth and first-generation college graduate, she worked her way through school and now serves as a Neighborhood Specialist for the City of P...
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Season 7
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Episode 27
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49:37
We Need Allies More Than Ever (with Charlie & Ben)
OPEN Up: Charlie Bird and Ben Schilaty tackle the overwhelming noise surrounding LGBTQ+ topics in the Church and society, sharing personal stories of feeling excluded, politicized or dehumanized. Those experiences can bring a lot of loneliness ...
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Season 7
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Episode 26
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49:09
What Would Past Me Think of Current Me?
This week on IN the Scriptures, Clare Dalton sits down with Ady and Cora Johnson—returned missionaries, newlyweds, adventurers and active members of the Church. They dive into Doctrine and Covenants 29-40, exploring how God asks us to leave par...
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Season 7
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Episode 25
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1:02:13
Finding Belonging as a Gay Samoan
In this episode of OUT and About, Iese Wilson interviews Wallace Pelesasa—a fellow Samoan and gay Latter-Day Saint. Growing up in a large family, Wallace attended church mainly to appease his father. His testimony didn’t truly igni...
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Season 7
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Episode 24
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1:02:10
Ally Nights: Creating Community in Your Own Home
This week on ALL Together, Liz Macdonald and Michael Soto sit down with Clare Dalton, host of IN the Scriptures and curator of the Gatherings curriculum, and Jen Dille, project manager at the Center for Action and Contemplation. Together Jen an...
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Season 7
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Episode 23
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55:51
Remembering Ben's Mom - Grief in Real Time
In this week’s OPEN Up episode, Ben Schilaty shares his experiences with grief after recently losing his mother to her long battle with Alzheimer’s disease. He reflects on the incredible life she lived, the challenges she overcame, and the prof...
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Season 7
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Episode 22
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49:06
The Invitation That Holds All the Answers
This week on IN the Scriptures, Clare Dalton and Becca Shumway dive into Doctrine and Covenants 18-28. These revelations shaped the early structure of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, and Clare and Becca explore how structure ca...
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Season 7
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Episode 21
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53:29
From Teen Convert to Branch President in Thailand
In this week’s OUT and About episode, Iese Wilson interviews Max Maneekam, a gay Latter-day Saint from Thailand now living in South Carolina with his husband.Max shares his journey of faith, from discovering the Church at age 12 to serv...
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Season 7
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Episode 20
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55:48
Seeing LGBTQ+ Individuals Through a Christlike Lens
In this ALL Together episode, Liz Macdonald and Michael Soto sit down with Pastor Stan Mitchell, a Christian pastor with a powerful journey of faith and inclusion. Growing up in a fear-based, exclusivist Christian tradition, he gradually expand...
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Season 7
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Episode 19
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1:09:10
Grieving the Life You Thought You Would Have
This month on OPEN Up, Ben Schilaty and Charlie Bird sit down with Lisa Valentine Clark. Lisa is a mother of five and host of the podcasts “The Lisa Show” and “Council of Moms.”Lisa shares her experience with grief following the death o...
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Season 7
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Episode 18
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1:09:15
Giving Ourself and Others Space to Grow
This week on IN the Scriptures, Clare Dalton talks with Dan and Terri Pratt, parents of six neurodivergent children, some of whom are LGBTQ+. They share their journey of supporting their kids, overcoming internalized beliefs, and building a mor...
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Season 7
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Episode 17
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1:13:15
Converting in Hong Kong... To Become Straight?
From Hong Kong to Brigham Young University-Hawaii, Uri shares his journey as a gay member of the Church—finding God’s love, self-acceptance, and community along the way. Tune in to this heartfelt OUT and About episode with host Ies...
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Season 7
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Episode 16
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49:04
Creating social safety for lgbtq+ loved-ones
Kick off the new year with an inspiring ALL Together episode! Liz Macdonald and Michael Soto interview Dr. Lisa Diamond, professor of psychology and gender studies at the University of Utah, and her research assistants Julia Decker and Jay Chri...
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Season 7
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Episode 15
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1:10:08
Exploring Body Image and Eating Through an LGBTQ+ Lens (with Sydney Williams, LCSW)
In the new OPEN Up episode, Charlie Bird and Ben Schilaty sit down with Sydney Williams, LCSW, a therapist and eating disorder specialist, to explore the complex relationship between body image and the LGBTQ+ community.They share insigh...
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Season 7
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Episode 14
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57:07
Spanish Episode: Compartiendo Nuestras Experiencias como Miembros Gays en la Iglesia
Don’t miss the first episode of All Out in the Open in Spanish!In this special episode of THE Exclusive, Charlie Bird and Ben Schilaty share their experiences as gay members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints and answer ...
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Season 7
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Episode 13
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57:14
Asking Questions is the Answer: JS-H and D&C 1-2 (with Austin Peterson)
This week Clare Dalton is joined by Austin Peterson, her collaborator on the Gatherings curriculum—Come Follow Me study groups designed for LGBTQ+ Church members and allies. Together, they dive into the early sections of the Doctrine and Covena...
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Season 7
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Episode 12
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1:00:53
Pioneering A Path in Mexico
In this episode of OUT and About, Iese Wilson sits down with André Pérez to discuss his journey as an LGBTQ+ member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints growing up in Mexico City. André saw a need for connection among Spanish-spea...
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Season 7
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Episode 11
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50:12
A Reverend's Calling to Strengthen LGBTQ+ Belonging (with Dr. Rev. Marian Edmonds-Allen)
For this week’s ALL Together episode, Liz Macdonald and Michael Soto sit down with Rev. Dr. Marian Edmonds-Allen, an ordained pastor and executive director of Parity, a nonprofit in New York City addressing the intersection of LGBTQ+ and faith ...
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Season 7
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Episode 10
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41:14
Owning Your Choices When Others Disagree (with Ben & Charlie)
OPEN Up: Ben Schilaty and Charlie Bird dive into the challenges of making authentic, personal decisions—especially when those choices are misunderstood or rejected by others. They discuss the pain of breaking the status quo and share personal s...
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Season 7
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Episode 9
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1:01:01
Seeing the Love of God In Others (with Tom Christofferson)
IN the Scriptures: In this episode, Clare Dalton chats with Tom Christofferson about finding faith, hope, and love through the stories in Ether 12 and Moroni 7 from the Book of Mormon. They dive into the ups and downs of fa...
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Season 7
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Episode 8
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1:12:05
Converting to the Church as a Gay Youth in the Philippines (with Cris Sembrano)
In this episode, Iese Wilson interviews Cris Sembrano, a gay Latter-day Saint and convert from the Philippines. Chris shares his journey of balancing faith and identity, from navigating cultural challenges in his hometown to finding community a...
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Season 7
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Episode 7
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1:00:18