The Synergy of B Vitamins and Omega-3s on Brain Health

Discover the surprising impact of combining B vitamins and omega-3s. It's like magic for brain health and combating cognitive decline.

Join hosts Josh Bellieu, Adam Payne, and retired pharmacist and clinical nutritionist Keith Bishop as they delve into brain health, the effects of B vitamins and Omega-3s on cognitive function, the impact of diet, methylation, and gene testing on brain health, including the benefits of trace minerals like lithium orotate. 

With insights on supplements like Endolyft and the role of ketones, this episode offers valuable advice for enhancing brain health and managing anxiety, cognitive decline, and more. 

Discover practical strategies for optimizing nutrition and supplement intake to support overall cognitive well-being.

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Transcript

0:00:00 - (Josh Bellieu): The B vitamins only do so much by themselves, Keith. The omega threes only do so much by themselves. But you put the two together, you see big studies out there showing 73% drop in brain shrinkage with the same studies done for B vitamins only showing X, same studies done for Omega 3 only showing X. You put them together and it's like magic in a bottle. It's ultra life today. I'm Josh Bellew, hanging out with two people that I dearly love. We've got Keith Bishop, retired pharmacist, clinical nutritionist, health coach extraordinaire as it relates to brain health, as it relates to people on a journey with cancer.

0:00:50 - (Josh Bellieu): And then the founder of Ultra Botanica, Adam Payne has graced us with his presence today and is throwing out some good signs to all of us. So we, we're moving down this road of supplementation, just kind of reminding everything. And by the way, do you love what we're doing? If you do, it's easy to find us at this current time on YouTube. Ultra life today. Type it in. Whether you do ultralife as one word or two words, you'll find us. We have a lot of archived sessions. We have some really cool interviews and got a lot of really cool ones coming up with some heavyweights like Keith Bishop here.

0:01:26 - (Josh Bellieu): Keith, it's always awesome to have you come. You're the guy that, you're our clutch guy because it's like it doesn't matter what subject. We may need to plumb. You're pretty stout on a whole lot of subjects.

0:01:41 - (Keith Bishop): I've been doing this a long time.

0:01:42 - (Josh Bellieu): You have, so thanks for joining us. So we moved down the supplement rabbit trail there. You started off with something interesting. A protein as a actual source, food source, nutrient. Talked about that. You talked about nac. You really praised curcumin, berberine. You flowed right into nitric oxide. And we talked about the simple ways you can test that with some inexpensive test strips to make sure you're not too high. Because you don't want to get too high, Right?

0:02:10 - (Keith Bishop): Correct.

0:02:11 - (Josh Bellieu): You definitely don't want to be low, get in the sweet spot. Right. What else have we got going in the supplement world? And Adam brought something up really interesting on the break. In our next segment, we're also going to talk a little bit about oral health and the relationship between bacteria in your mouth and brain health. It's a biggie and nobody talks about it except a couple of people we know. Right.

0:02:33 - (Josh Bellieu): Okay.

0:02:33 - (Keith Bishop): So, yeah, there's oral health, inflammation, infections, and several things that are related to brain damage, literally. So infections can go up there. So but along the supplement line, I guess next would be, you know, vitamin D and vitamin K2 may help some. As a matter of fact, statistically it is a risk factor being low in dark, you know, and vitamin K2. But if a person takes it, I can't really say that we see that much improvement because it's a long term, many year type thing.

0:03:07 - (Keith Bishop): Being low in those nutrients increases the risk of the circulation problem, you know, and getting nutrients up into the, into the brain. So vitamin D, especially K2, helps pull that plaque out of the blood vessels and then moves that calcium out of that plaque into the bones. So that's a very important part.

0:03:26 - (Adam Payne): I'm just learning a lot about vitamin D and its relationship to calcium transport. I mean, it's so important what we. I didn't understand it, but now that I do, how vitamin D is critical for the proper movement of calcium not only out of their arteries but also into muscle tissue because calcium is responsible for that contraction. And then we need magnesium to release. So it's this biphasic relationship between calcium and magnesium and they have to be in sync with one another.

0:04:01 - (Adam Payne): Vitamin D is critical for the calcium transport.

0:04:05 - (Josh Bellieu): So my friend Kyle Drew has absolutely pounded it into me to the point that, and I'm really surprised it hasn't come up on your list yet. Omega 3 fatty acids and their relationship to cognitive decline, brain health, all that, you know, Kyle, basically. And we sometimes will sit around and we'll talk and what are your top three supplements that if you had nothing else and were stranded on a desert island, generally the first one out of Kyle's mouth is omega 3 fatty acids.

0:04:36 - (Keith Bishop): Well, and where I'm coming at, DHA, you know, EPA and DHA, most of the people that I know already are taking that. Okay, okay. So that's why I didn't have it high up.

0:04:48 - (Adam Payne): They're taking the omega 3s or they're taking something else.

0:04:51 - (Keith Bishop): They're taking omega 3 fatty acid capsules.

0:04:54 - (Josh Bellieu): And before we move a little bit into Omega 3 and talk about that, am I right that basically almost every American gets way too much Omega 6 in their diet and they just are just in the basement related to omega 3.

0:05:09 - (Keith Bishop): Omega 3s are used by our body to make pain relieving anti inflammatory chemicals. Omega 6 is typically found in animal fat, are used by our body to make inflammatory pain causing chemicals. And so overall most of us don't eat much fish. So the Mediterranean diet, for example, a true Mediterranean diet is actually Fish is several times a week.

0:05:36 - (Adam Payne): That's the staple then.

0:05:37 - (Keith Bishop): Yes, it is. It's a staple for them. And so we don't do anything like that. United States. And we don't have those sources and have to admit, you know, and even able to get that, it's going to be a challenge.

0:05:50 - (Josh Bellieu): I learned something shocking and that is that the World Health Organization statistics, and I know the WHO has a black eye right now, I think well deserved. Anyway, I'll try to stay off that. But the World Health Organization actually has statistics that demonstrate they can look at populations that have access to seafood all across the world, and they can use those statistics to determine how much suicide, depression, anxiety, cognitive decline and heart health will be among populations just based on how close they are to seafood and how much of that they have in their diet.

0:06:30 - (Josh Bellieu): I just thought that was so stunning.

0:06:32 - (Keith Bishop): Very interesting. But now part of that may be lifestyle.

0:06:36 - (Josh Bellieu): Yeah, they do walk a lot. And they walk a lot.

0:06:39 - (Keith Bishop): They're working harder, they're laboring. Typically, there's a lot of life when you walk.

0:06:46 - (Josh Bellieu): You get sunshine.

0:06:48 - (Keith Bishop): Exactly. There's a lot of other things that may be playing into that, too. So in those blue zones.

0:06:54 - (Josh Bellieu): Yeah, that's kind of narrow, I admit, but I still thought it was.

0:06:58 - (Keith Bishop): Yes, it is. It is. And it's important to consider that. So omega 3s, you know, our brain is 60, 70% fat, something like that. And so the fats that we put in our body will make a difference. The biggest problem is actually people are eating their own fats, you know, and so they're eating too much of the fried foods that are, you know, they're using the wrong type of fats that are oxidized because they've been heated for days.

0:07:25 - (Keith Bishop): They've been frying those French fries, you know, and whatever else, you know, in those fats for days at the fast food restaurant or even a regular restaurant.

0:07:34 - (Adam Payne): So this is the short of the fried foods, is avoid them.

0:07:39 - (Keith Bishop): Yes.

0:07:40 - (Adam Payne): At all costs.

0:07:41 - (Keith Bishop): At all costs. Now.

0:07:44 - (Adam Payne): I'm sorry about that, if we're bursting anybody's bubble here, but literally the fried foods are the worst culprit for brain health.

0:07:54 - (Josh Bellieu): And can I say this, though, Keith, you can do low frying with things like organic raw coconut oil and even really good Tunisian olive oil. I'm going to throw that in because there's some weird, weird things going on with olive oil right now and it being adulterated and stuff like that. But you can do low frying with those, right?

0:08:14 - (Keith Bishop): Yes. Avocado oil.

0:08:15 - (Josh Bellieu): Avocado oil.

0:08:16 - (Keith Bishop): Avocado oil is at high smoke temperature. That means it survives that temperature. And so stir frying, I'm okay with, you know, at home one time, use.

0:08:25 - (Josh Bellieu): Boom, quick three to five minutes.

0:08:28 - (Keith Bishop): Yeah, don't keep reusing that oil. People ask me that all the time. Don't reuse that oil. So, you know, so yes, those fats are going to be important. I find that if we can improve circulation though, that's where we're going to see the better results. So really most of the things I'm talking about is kind of like some circulation type issues. There are the other herbal type things that have a tendency to act as almost like a spark for the brain.

0:08:56 - (Keith Bishop): You know, ginkgo is one of those Bacopa and huperazine. There's.

0:09:04 - (Josh Bellieu): So now you're getting into the. What some people call nootropics, some call nootropics.

0:09:09 - (Keith Bishop): Nootropics, we discussed that, how to pronounce that. So it depends on what kind of oaky accent you want to use.

0:09:15 - (Adam Payne): So I want them nootropics.

0:09:17 - (Josh Bellieu): I want, yes, tropics, no tropics.

0:09:20 - (Adam Payne): That's what I need.

0:09:22 - (Keith Bishop): So matter of fact, the best selling item that we have, it's actually one of those items and actually it's a ginkgo with a couple other herbs in it that are, you know, that kind of provides a spark and people can feel the difference. The problem, the problem is it's not addressing the underlying problems.

0:09:41 - (Josh Bellieu): Right, right. So again, it's kind of a jump start, quick fix. But it's certainly not to take a substitution for exercise and changing the diet and all that.

0:09:52 - (Keith Bishop): Exactly.

0:09:52 - (Adam Payne): So, Keith, I gotta ask, you know, we make a brain supplement product, Endolift. Have you, what's your experience with that? Do you think it's helpful and under which conditions would you recommend or not recommend Endolift as a supplement?

0:10:05 - (Keith Bishop): Dr. Definitely along the lines of like the anxiety and depressions and attention deficit type issues. And so the amino acids work out great for that goes back to the proteins.

0:10:17 - (Adam Payne): Right.

0:10:18 - (Keith Bishop): So there can be some issues with amino acid deficiencies, either not getting enough proteins providing the amino acids or not absorbing them or not converting them in what our body needs. So the Endolift is one of those ways to do that. So now I do some assessments to try to figure those type things out. So I do assessments and with a urine test, we can actually measure the brain chemicals. Okay, so what are their stimulants? You know, is a cortisol high, which, you know, is a whole other area. It's a stimulant damage to the brain if it's too high, too much.

0:10:52 - (Keith Bishop): For example, my wife has an issue with one amino acid that she's low in. That's important for the brain. I supplement that amino acid and I can tell the difference.

0:11:03 - (Josh Bellieu): So the diagnostic with her, with her, the diagnostic you use is a urine test to be able to determine an amino acid profile.

0:11:10 - (Adam Payne): Okay, awesome. Is that the organic acid test?

0:11:13 - (Keith Bishop): That's one of them. And there's a ZRT is another lab. They do some neurotransmitters. And so you're looking if a neurotransmitter is high or low, why? And so you have to go back and look at that absorption or source of foods and things like that.

0:11:27 - (Adam Payne): So just a quick segue, you know. Endolift is a product that we make at Ultra Botanic. It's actually the invention of a guy named Charles Gant, who is a MD, PhD, ND guy in, well published, brilliant guy. End your addiction now your godly brain. He was an addiction researcher and scientist. So he built Endolift because he it is the building blocks for the enkephalin system, which is the fancy word for the endorphin system in the brain. And it's those six amino acids that directly contribute to very specific classes of neurotransmitters that we need for anxiety and for stability.

0:12:08 - (Adam Payne): He called it the neurotransmitters not in the central highways of the brain, but all of the sideways and alleyways that help the brain to integrate information. A lot of time we just focus on, do you have enough dopamine to be able to run and move and do those things? We're talking about all of the other neurotransmitters that help us to integrate thoughts and processes.

0:12:35 - (Josh Bellieu): Adam, one of the applications that Dr. Gantt actually utilized, that amino acid preparation that ultimately became Endolift. It should be, it should be glaringly obvious to most of us that understand endorphins. People go to the gym, they're working through an injury, they've got pain, and they walk in the gym, they start pumping a little iron, and 10 or 15 minutes later, the endorphin system of the body releases natural opiate type substances that help them manage their pain and even help to speed the healing process.

0:13:05 - (Adam Payne): The runner's high in a cup.

0:13:06 - (Josh Bellieu): Absolutely. And that's one of the things about that people don't even think about when it comes to Endolift is he utilized it as part of a pain management thing and helping individuals get off Opiates. Because it had dual function.

0:13:17 - (Adam Payne): Yeah. He used it primarily to help people recover. He called people that are going into withdrawal a neurotransmitter crisis. So essentially, you're taking the chemical away from the addict and the addict and, like, for opiates, they've replaced all of the endorphins in the brain. And so the brain literally stops making endorphins because you're giving it opiates, and then you take away the opiates. Guess what? The stores of endorphins are gone.

0:13:48 - (Adam Payne): And so what does the brain do? It will do whatever it needs in order to get that neurotransmitter back. Brains do not function well without neurotransmitters. They go into crisis.

0:14:02 - (Josh Bellieu): Yeah. Okay, Keith, Big revelation to me related to homocysteine and the link for homocysteine to cognitive decline. Another statistic I heard, and I think it's a very reputable source. But that.

0:14:18 - (Adam Payne): Before we go into that, I just want to finish the thought because it's really important for people because we haven't connected the dots. The reason why Charlie Gant made the formulation was because he said, look, the solution for people in withdrawal is not just put them in a box and wait for them to recover and regain themselves. The solution is provide for them the building blocks that they need in order to make those neurotransmitters again rapidly build.

0:14:45 - (Josh Bellieu): That endorphins in the brain.

0:14:46 - (Adam Payne): In fact, they would IV these amino acids, and they were getting success rates that other interventional systems were not getting. We're getting the same kind of results with an oral formulation.

0:15:01 - (Josh Bellieu): Yeah. And that's a great segue, Adam.

0:15:05 - (Adam Payne): I just want to make sure people connected.

0:15:07 - (Josh Bellieu): Great that you brought that up because it is still such a huge problem.

0:15:10 - (Adam Payne): It is a huge problem.

0:15:11 - (Josh Bellieu): I'm so glad you did.

0:15:12 - (Adam Payne): But it's also appropriate for people. People might be dealing with neurotransmitter deficits, and they don't know that that's what's going on, but they feel anxious, tired, upset, irritable, grouchy. And really what's going on is their brains don't have what it needs in order to function.

0:15:29 - (Josh Bellieu): Yeah. To build those nutrients or chemicals that are necessary for that. Yeah. I was really. You know, I've heard of homocysteine was kind of a big word.

0:15:41 - (Adam Payne): I love homocysteine.

0:15:42 - (Josh Bellieu): 10, 20 years ago. And then it kind of faded to me into obscurity because there was a lot of health food store supplements talking about, lower your homocysteine if it's, you know, if it's high. But homocysteine covers so many bases. If it's high, it can affect so many systems in the body. But I didn't realize it was preeminently spoken of as it relates to cognitive decline. And there's this unique relationship between methylation, B vitamins, homocysteine levels.

0:16:13 - (Josh Bellieu): Take us down that road for a minute. Because I kind of look at it that the B vitamins and determining if you methylate properly. So you're taking the appropriate type of B vitamins. I look at that as a massive. I mean, there's. And also the B vitamins only do so much by themselves, Keith. The omega threes only do so much by themselves. But if you put the two together, you see big studies out there showing 73% drop in brain shrinkage with the same studies done for B vitamins only showing X, same studies done for Omega 3 only showing X.

0:16:50 - (Josh Bellieu): You put them together, and it's like magic in a bottle to have that. Tell us about that.

0:16:54 - (Keith Bishop): Sure. So homocysteine is a chemical. It's a natural chemical our body makes. And if it's elevated, it actually can damage the blood vessels and it can scratch and scar the blood vessels, contribute.

0:17:08 - (Adam Payne): Significantly to cardiovascular disease. Exactly.

0:17:10 - (Keith Bishop): Goes back to the circulation issue, Circulation to the brain. So that's going to be one of those issues. But if it's elevated, it's elevated because we can't. You don't have the right type of B vitamins to lower that chemical. I'm not saying wipe it out, but to lower that chemical. Matter of fact, not enough is an issue too. But to lower that and so has to do with methylation. Many of you have seen things about methylated B vitamins.

0:17:37 - (Adam Payne): Yep.

0:17:38 - (Keith Bishop): There is a test, MTHFR acronym, that tests for how well the body is able to convert folic acid, which is actually synthetic folates, into five methyltetrahydrofolate. That's what our body really needs genetically, me included. We have a difficult time doing that. So therefore, I have to take a methylated B vitamin.

0:18:06 - (Josh Bellieu): Yeah. And I want to mention to our viewers, years ago, methylated B vitamins, you look at them on the shelf and it's like, that is so expensive. It's not that way anymore. And, Adam, you actually have your own personal story, which I have told to so many people, and it was Dr. Gantt that helped you discover this really major problem.

0:18:25 - (Adam Payne): I went to the Mayo Clinic in 2010 because I was experiencing significant neuropathic issues. And they diagnosed me with idiopathic peripheral neuropathy, which means it's, I have deterioration in my nerves and they don't know why it was happening. Later I got diagnosed with something called Charcot Marie Tooth syndrome. And then further on in my working with Charlie Gant while he was still with us, we actually took my genome from Ancestry.com

0:18:58 - (Adam Payne): plugged it into a medical database, and it turns out that I have all of the recessive genes around B vitamins. I also have all of the MTHFR recessive genes around methylation. And so Dr. Gantt's comment to me was, I don't know how you are live right now because I don't process the vitamins to create energetics in my body. It's like the most difficult pathway you could imagine to get from here to Boston.

0:19:35 - (Adam Payne): And I don't fly, I swim through the canals, the worst path possible. So when I finally learned about these issues, I was able to start supplementing with methylated B vitamins because I don't methylate and I don't process B vitamins properly. And it changed my life dramatically. I've stopped the degeneration in my muscles and in my nerves and I've been able to keep things, at least at homeostasis.

0:20:01 - (Josh Bellieu): Phenomenal. Yeah, Google methylation and you're going to be shocked to find out that billions of processes take place every two or three seconds in your body that are totally tied.

0:20:10 - (Adam Payne): I know a lot of our listeners maybe are scared about doing this genetic kind of testing, but honestly, I wouldn't have known about my issues unless I had done the genetic testing and learned about and had somebody qualified to help me understand what those numbers meant.

0:20:31 - (Keith Bishop): Those tests are so inexpensive now, and so $300 and you've got a lot of information.

0:20:40 - (Josh Bellieu): As a personal note, I would say avoid 23andMe because recently, for over $10 billion, they sold their entire database off because of neat little things.

0:20:50 - (Adam Payne): But it's not personalized, right? Even though people are pissed off about that, who that person is not told.

0:20:59 - (Josh Bellieu): Well, it wasn't that way in 23andMe, but in many of the newer ones, that's my understanding. So look that up, check it out.

0:21:06 - (Adam Payne): They have the day. But it's not. You can't get down to the person, which is hipaa protected information, but great information.

0:21:13 - (Keith Bishop): And so without that, we don't know for sure what we're going to need, you know, along like the methylation issues, the B vitamins and things like that. A homocysteine blood test is easy and inexpensive.

0:21:25 - (Adam Payne): It may not be quite informative, but it's better. It's better to do that and do the genetic testing because that can help you to make supplement decisions for people.

0:21:35 - (Josh Bellieu): Let's round out the. What I kind of call the trifecta as it relates to brain health of the core things, omega 3B vitamins. Now, you've got antioxidants that need to come into play there. Now, you've mentioned NAC already, which is a powerful one. Right. Detoxing as well as helping doesn't understand.

0:21:57 - (Adam Payne): Before you go into antioxidants, really, we need to understand the body's ability to do phase one detoxification versus phase two. Isn't that correct? Antioxidants are great. Yes. They won't be bad, but how much and what kind of antioxidants, whether you need to do broccoli seed extract to stimulate, for example, phase two, you only will know that if you do the testing to find out that individual's balance between the two. So, Keith, do you work on from that perspective?

0:22:26 - (Keith Bishop): Yes. So the genetic test will give an idea about that and about phase one. The body's converting toxins from fat soluble to. To an intermediate. And so antioxidants help with that intermediate conversion to that intermediate chemical. That intermediate chemical could be more damaging and toxic than the original one.

0:22:46 - (Adam Payne): If your phase two detoxification is impaired.

0:22:49 - (Keith Bishop): If it doesn't work. That's right. Thank you. If that's impaired, the phase two is a conversion of that intermediate chemical into water soluble to eliminate that out.

0:22:59 - (Josh Bellieu): How much does a test like that cost to determine that? Or can you, as you said, glean a lot of that information just from the genetic test?

0:23:06 - (Keith Bishop): The genetic test is the number one thing.

0:23:09 - (Josh Bellieu): Beautiful.

0:23:09 - (Keith Bishop): Yeah. And now. But the other item that I follow for that is going to be weight loss. And so doing a body composition test and looking at water, muscle, bone and fat, if we see a person losing fat but their water retention gets worse, that means they're not detoxing.

0:23:28 - (Josh Bellieu): That's a great point.

0:23:29 - (Adam Payne): So important.

0:23:30 - (Keith Bishop): Yeah. And so if their water numbers keep going up, that's just one of those signs of poor detoxification. They're not going that phase two step, which often requires. And that's another genetic issue. Some people have to have more help for that.

0:23:46 - (Josh Bellieu): Well, I think you've kind of set the stage for us finally moving into what might be an optimum diet. And I'm going to be preaching ketogenic myself. I didn't really realize the role that ketones played in being able to literally feed the brain. Talk about ketones and a ketogenic diet.

0:24:09 - (Keith Bishop): One of my favorite things. Exactly. Brain health, cancer. My two specialties is the same. Matter of fact, this discussion is exactly the same for both issues. And so the body can function, the body and the brain can function off of sugars or glucose or ketones, but ketones are a little bit different.

0:24:29 - (Adam Payne): They're also glutamate, right?

0:24:31 - (Keith Bishop): Well, glutamate, Glutamine.

0:24:32 - (Adam Payne): Glutamine. Glutamine, Sorry.

0:24:33 - (Keith Bishop): And glutamine. Yes, glutamine is another chemical. So it's not just sugar and ketones, but actually the sugar and ketones are easy to measure. And so I use a keto mojo finger stick machine and.

0:24:48 - (Adam Payne): Sounds fun.

0:24:48 - (Keith Bishop): With a drop of blood.

0:24:50 - (Adam Payne): Drop of blood.

0:24:51 - (Josh Bellieu): Adam loves to just go around, get people to volunteer to get blood, get.

0:24:55 - (Keith Bishop): That drop of blood and measure your blood sugar, glucose and your ketones, find out what the fasting and how your body responds to the meal and your supplements. And so the brain can function off of glucose and or ketones and so.

0:25:12 - (Adam Payne): In a fasting, I've heard it's actually more efficient with ketones at some level. Is that true?

0:25:19 - (Keith Bishop): May be, yeah, it might be different.

0:25:21 - (Josh Bellieu): And the guy that I listened to that really got me excited about brain health, he actually said that was true. Interestingly enough, Adam, one reason why I think you're so dang smart is seal oil and, and eating seal meat. But guess what's actually better for the brain than that? Caviar. You 11 year Russian guy over there, over there eating caviar.

0:25:47 - (Adam Payne): We would buy caviar by the quarter kilo.

0:25:49 - (Josh Bellieu): Isn't that incredible? Anyway, okay, so back to ketones and. Yeah, what I what Adam, I think you're right. The guy I listened to said ye ketones were the top shelf.

0:25:59 - (Adam Payne): Yeah, but that only works if your body is forced to use ketones.

0:26:03 - (Keith Bishop): Exactly. We have to force our body to do it in our society because we eat too much food and so if we're getting too many carbohydrates, we're not going to be converting that. So our glucose is high. Our body wants to favor that because it's a quick energy, quick response to energy. Ketones are a little bit slower and brain function changes. So when I go into ketosis, my brain is different. Really not saying bad, but I can definitely, I can tell that it's a little bit different actually it's a little bit more calmer state and I can definitely tell the difference when I go into ketosis. So it takes me almost 16 hours of fasting to get into ketosis.

0:26:51 - (Adam Payne): That's fascinating.

0:26:52 - (Keith Bishop): Without supplements, there are cheats for that, but with that. But ketones are so important for the heart, the brain, cancer, metabolism, everything.

0:27:05 - (Adam Payne): We haven't touched on oral health though, yet.

0:27:08 - (Josh Bellieu): We'll move into that in the next segment. We'll definitely cover that.

0:27:11 - (Adam Payne): I think we need to wrap that up with this.

0:27:14 - (Josh Bellieu): So I found out something interesting. I was seeing a doctor Nels out of Germany and I've already mentioned this to Adam. I don't think he's actually run down the rabbit hole yet with it. But you know a trace mineral called lithium that we know they've synthesized into a drug that has been used for a lot of people with oppressive orders and things like that. Right. But there is the trace mineral form, interestingly enough. World Health Organization, again I'm quoting them, says that every single animal on the planet needs lithium as a trace mineral. But they neglect to say that human beings do too.

0:27:47 - (Josh Bellieu): It's actually an essential thing we need. This doctor has experimented with microdosing lithium orotate and only one milligram a day, Keith, and he's helping individuals that are dealing with brain fog from COVID Whether it may be a vaccine injury or just having Covid a few times. Didn't have the vaccine, but have the brain fog. And he's really pioneering lithium orotate as something that is a very powerful tool for cognitive health.

0:28:15 - (Josh Bellieu): Have you heard anything about it yet? I just wondered because this is recent info for me.

0:28:18 - (Keith Bishop): Yes, I've, I've read about it. And so it's something that has been around for a long time as a supplement. Not counting the prescription megadose prescription for major depressive or depressive schizo dystopian bipolar type issues. But going with this lower dose definitely may help out. But it's also, it's a micro mineral. It's a micronutrient, it's a trace mineral. So just a tiny bit is kind of like even zinc is critical.

0:28:49 - (Adam Payne): Well, we need to get into that because what you're, what you guys are touching on is the cells need for those electrolyte balances. If it doesn't have those trace minerals, essentially the batteries of our cells are going to be suffering and not able to energetically to work.

0:29:09 - (Keith Bishop): So it's the brain, the neuro system. Brain cells and nerves are not just a electrical system, it's not just a neurotransmitter system. It's a combination.

0:29:20 - (Adam Payne): It's all those things.

0:29:21 - (Keith Bishop): It's electrical, you know, I mean, we have electricity in our body. We're making electricity and we impact each other with electricity even we don't even know it. But we also have these neurotransmitters that are also being released. So it's a combination of things along with the fats. So it's several different things. It's not always just one pill.

0:29:41 - (Josh Bellieu): Yeah. Dha by the way, Adam converts photons into electrons in the body. It's a conversation for another day. Anyway, this is Ultra Life today. Adam Payne is sitting on the end CEO of Ultra Botanica. We've got Keith Bishop here, a brain health expert and an incredible coach both in brain health and in individuals with active cancer. I'm Josh Bell. If you want to get a hold of Keith, it's really easy. Two websites flourishrx.com f l o u r I s h r x.com or prevail over Cancer Ultralife today.