Quercetin: Nature's Answer to Allergies and Inflammation

Allergies, inflammation, heavy metals—quercetin handles it all. Find out the science behind nature's powerhouse. Dive into the fascinating world of quercetin with Adam Payne and Josh Bellieu on Ultra Life Today. 

Discover how this powerful plant bioactive compound affects immune signaling, eases allergies, and enhances detoxification processes. Learn about the synergistic effects of combining quercetin with other compounds like curcumin and berberine. Uncover the importance of phase two detoxification and the benefits of sourcing organic foods rich in quercetin. 

With insights into dietary supplements and clean oils, this episode offers valuable knowledge for those seeking improved health and wellness.

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Transcript

0:00:00 - (Adam Payne): In order to affect the inflammation pathway, which has to do with activation of eosinophils, activation of white blood cells, monocytes, and other immune cells that are in the body. Quercetin has a unique ability to affect those things. And in fact, quercetin has been kind of touted as nature's answer to allergies.

0:00:26 - (Josh Bellieu): Foreign. Welcome back to Ultra Life Today. We are so delighted you're joining us for this second week where we're talking, trying to take a deep dive, but having a lot of fun doing it. Adam, in the arena of plant bioactive compounds, polyphenolics, but specifically, we're talking about quercetin. You mentioned that antioxidant properties. You mentioned that it has this unique ability to chelate, which means to bind to heavy metals in the body and activate them.

0:01:07 - (Josh Bellieu): Then we moved into this idea of ligands or cell messaging last week. So pick us up where you left off, because you were trying to explain to me how quercetin interacts with a cell and what's going on there when that happens.

0:01:23 - (Adam Payne): So quercetin as. More importantly, I mean, the antioxidant. Great. The heavy metal chelation. Great. Fantastic. Fantastic. What we want is to know the biological domain of quercetin that, you know, plants make quercetin because they use it for a biological function inside of the plant biology.

0:01:49 - (Josh Bellieu): Does it protect them somehow?

0:01:50 - (Adam Payne): I don't. I. You know what? I don't know.

0:01:52 - (Josh Bellieu): Does it make bugs stay away?

0:01:54 - (Adam Payne): I don't know.

0:01:55 - (Josh Bellieu): I wish.

0:01:55 - (Adam Payne): I don't know. I don't know. Those tend to be more. The terpenes. Right. Terpenes are that aromatic components. The polyphenols tend to be more functional domains. So quercetin interacts with our immune system. It actually affects immune signaling in a profound way. But most specifically, it affects something called eosinophils. Eosinophils are a class of immune cell in our body that are primarily responsible for two different kinds of immune responses.

0:02:37 - (Adam Payne): The first immune response is something we're really familiar with. It's the allergic response.

0:02:43 - (Josh Bellieu): Okay, so glad you're talking about that, because I've heard rumors that quercetin has a unique ability to help in that. So keep going.

0:02:50 - (Adam Payne): Yeah. I mean, that's where the big promise of quercetin is that since it has unique domains that affect eosinophils, it will prevent the activation of eosinophils. So activated eosinophils are immune cells that are causing an inflammation reaction.

0:03:13 - (Josh Bellieu): So if a pollen count is high in the air, and I'm One of those people and I go outside and I'm breathing it. You're saying it's activating eosinophils and those are creating an inflammatory response that's probably going to take me down a negative trail.

0:03:26 - (Adam Payne): An activated eosinophil starts to spill out histamines into the tissues. Histamines are another cellular messenger that causes immune cells to flood into the space. A histamine dump is like calling out the National Guard.

0:03:46 - (Josh Bellieu): Not fun.

0:03:47 - (Adam Payne): Well, I mean, we've all experienced it. You've experienced an allergic reaction.

0:03:51 - (Josh Bellieu): Yeah. To toxic mold. You're right.

0:03:53 - (Adam Payne): And your nose stuffs up almost immediately. Things start to swell. You can get hives. Hives is an allergic reaction in your skin. You can have asthma, which is an allergic reaction manifesting in your lungs. You can have eosinophilic reactions in your esophagus, in your stomach, in your intestines.

0:04:18 - (Josh Bellieu): Yeah, we've heard about people's throat closing up from reactions to different things. Peanut allergies.

0:04:23 - (Adam Payne): Well, yeah, you can stop breathing because of it, but things like ulcerative colitis is considered to be. Get this. It is an eosinophilic response that's happening in the tissues inside of your intestines. It's very similar to eczema, eczema in the skin and different kinds of manifestations. Eosinophilic manifestations in other parts of the body are the kind of the same thing. Eczema is an eosinophilic reaction happening on the skin.

0:05:01 - (Josh Bellieu): So is quercetin actually mitigating this inflammatory response that's taking place from eosinophils?

0:05:08 - (Adam Payne): That is. You know, I don't. Unfortunately, I don't know the exact mechanism of action, which ligand that quercetin is attaching, but the research is definitive that quercetin is a powerful mitigator of eosinophil activation. So if you have a lot of. If you have quercetin soluble in your body, it will dampen the activation signal of a neosinophil. Oops, that's bouncy.

0:05:40 - (Josh Bellieu): So I just want to throw out something. Is there such a thing as a synergistic effect when it comes to some of these compounds? Because I think about.

0:05:49 - (Adam Payne): Oh, yeah.

0:05:50 - (Josh Bellieu): I mean, I think about.

0:05:51 - (Adam Payne): I love synergy.

0:05:52 - (Josh Bellieu): Okay, so, you know, we, we have our awesome QC department over there at our 25, 000 square foot pharma manufacturing facility.

0:05:59 - (Adam Payne): And when you say it that way, it sounds amazing.

0:06:02 - (Josh Bellieu): It's pretty sexy.

0:06:03 - (Adam Payne): Yeah.

0:06:03 - (Josh Bellieu): And, and, and you are the. You are the gu in your head, innovative guy. And you're constantly, constantly telling Stella or other people over there, hey, I want you to do this. And these mysterious packages of powders are coming in and you're shipping them over there and. And they're doing things with sounds like.

0:06:20 - (Adam Payne): It'S something different, but it isn't.

0:06:21 - (Josh Bellieu): And then. All right, well then I'll sit down with you, you know, and I'll like, what's that? And you're like, oh, I had Stella and Jared look at that. And guess what? It works with our technology. And I get really excited. So you get really excited about combining these things. Really? Such a thing as synergy, where one plus one can equal three. Let's say you take curcumin, you take quercetin, you take berberine, you put them all together. What happens? In fact, it happens in the drug world. Right?

0:06:53 - (Adam Payne): They use drugs to try to create synergy. Now, you know what they try, drug companies. No, they actually don't try, but doctors do.

0:07:02 - (Josh Bellieu): I mean. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

0:07:04 - (Adam Payne): Yes.

0:07:05 - (Josh Bellieu): Yeah. In Covid, you had so many different doctors coming out of work.

0:07:08 - (Adam Payne): They talk about the drug cocktail eating, a cocktail approach. And you know, the reason that we.

0:07:14 - (Josh Bellieu): So is there a cocktail approach in natural supplements?

0:07:16 - (Adam Payne): There is, there should be. Excuse me. Human biology is like trying to stop traffic from an island when there's three bridges off that island. And so the pharmaceutical approach is, well, we're just gonna, we're gonna block this one bridge. That's going to stop the traffic. Does it stop the traffic?

0:07:42 - (Josh Bellieu): We're all looking at our GPS and it's going. It'll save me 10 minutes if I take this exit.

0:07:46 - (Adam Payne): Yeah, it might be, you know, it might be a one way bridge that you only go on because it's kind of rickety. It's a singing bridge. You know what I'm talking about? One of those kind of bridges. Does it block the. Does it keep the traffic from getting off the island? No, the biology just goes, oh, that's blocked. I'm going to go around.

0:08:06 - (Josh Bellieu): May slow some things down.

0:08:07 - (Adam Payne): Opens up entirely new channels. We find out that there's a subterranean passage that nobody knew about. But that's what happens in our cells. Pharmaceuticals try to. But they can block one thing. And honestly, pharmaceuticals work because they are effective in some regards. Quercetin is one of those compounds. We use it in our oncology products with some other compounds. Because quercetin affects a number of different metabolic pathways in the cell. It affects NRF2.

0:08:43 - (Adam Payne): It affects.

0:08:44 - (Josh Bellieu): Is it an AMPK guy.

0:08:46 - (Adam Payne): No, no.

0:08:47 - (Josh Bellieu): Okay.

0:08:48 - (Adam Payne): No, it is. No, no, Actually, no, it is. I'm so sorry. It does affect glucose metabolism. It does. But it also affects a number of other pathways. Nr. Mtor.

0:09:04 - (Josh Bellieu): Mtor.

0:09:04 - (Adam Payne): Yeah. And NF Kappa beta indirectly.

0:09:09 - (Josh Bellieu): That's one of the favorites.

0:09:10 - (Adam Payne): Not as strong as NF Kappa beta, not as strong as curcumin. Most people don't know what those different secret codes are. Those are different, like, side streets inside the cell where certain things happen. And so quercetin, if it can get in the cell, it can affect different parts of the human biology. And so that's why in our cancer products, we combine quercetin and curcumin. And also in a product we have called Ultra Defense, we use curcumin and quercetin and boswellia olive leaf extract, vitamin D, zinc. Right. We use all of those in order to affect the inflammation pathway, which has to do with activation of eosinophils, activation of white blood cells, monocytes, and other immune cells that are in the body.

0:10:05 - (Adam Payne): Quercetin has a unique ability to affect those things. And in fact, quercetin has been kind of touted as nature's answer to allergies, except it doesn't get into the body and gets in its native form. It's a crystal. It's insoluble. It won't absorb. Thus why the LPS technology is so important. We make a standalone curcumin product. We also make a standalone quercetin product called Ultra Quercetin. It's available on our website.

0:10:40 - (Adam Payne): We also have a couple of other products that include quercetin in it. You know, I have to admit, when I take quercetin, I don't feel anything. But I'm not dealing with allergies.

0:10:54 - (Josh Bellieu): I'm with you on that as well, but I have never dealt with allergies either.

0:10:59 - (Adam Payne): So I've heard people report to me that have severe kinds of allergic things, and they tell me that the Ultra Quercetin, especially the Ultra Defense, man, I have people that beg me to send them Ultra Defense. We have one gal, she's a PhD at Rutgers University. She travels overseas all the time. She just texted me last night, send me the quercetin in the Ultra Defense. I'm going over to Thailand for a month and I'll be sick as a dog if I don't have it right.

0:11:31 - (Josh Bellieu): You know, so to. In a roundabout way, you have answered the question related to synergy and putting things together. And we kind of. We. We wound up at Ultra Defense, where we do throw certain things together.

0:11:45 - (Adam Payne): One plus one doesn't equal to. In. In these cases, one plus one equals ten or five.

0:11:52 - (Josh Bellieu): So just a quick recap. We started off talking about antioxidant potential of quercetin if you can get it in the bloodstream. We went on to talk about chelation. We went on to talk about how it creates a unique ability of these cells to signal in the cytokine chemokine space and be able to mitigate a response in the body related to inflammation, allergic responses, things like that.

0:12:21 - (Adam Payne): Yeah. So. So the body's creating these. Something's happening. Right. You have a. So the other thing that eosinophils do is we talked about this and you reminded me eosinophils are responsible for allergies. They're also responsible for the parasite response. So we don't deal with a lot of parasites here in the western world.

0:12:40 - (Josh Bellieu): I would actually completely disagree. I would say they're like the hidden illness that nobody knows they're dealing with.

0:12:48 - (Adam Payne): Right.

0:12:49 - (Josh Bellieu): And they are responsible. Talk to Dr. Windham and other doctors and they'll say, hey, not a big deal.

0:12:55 - (Adam Payne): Okay? But.

0:12:56 - (Josh Bellieu): But you're right. It's not as much as.

0:12:58 - (Adam Payne): As Africa or India.

0:13:00 - (Josh Bellieu): It's not like river blindness, you know, in Africa. You're right.

0:13:03 - (Adam Payne): You're right. Thankfully, yes. Right. It is believed that allergies that we experience in America especially is because we have a bored immune system. Our eosinophil system is designed to be responsive. It wants to like, it's looking for the parasites.

0:13:25 - (Josh Bellieu): So it really is a no pain, no gain type principle with our immune system. When it is attacked by something, it actually gets stronger and it needs to kind of stay revved up and fight for something. Right.

0:13:36 - (Adam Payne): Look at the fight. You don't give it something to respond to. It's kind of like it's getting kind of itchy. It's dancing around. And then it gets a signal that maybe it shouldn't respond to, but it's like, well, I got nothing else to go on. I'm going to do this.

0:13:51 - (Josh Bellieu): All right.

0:13:52 - (Adam Payne): Watch out, folks.

0:13:53 - (Josh Bellieu): Hey. We are so grateful that you have joined us for this particular segment of ultra life today. This is week two. It's this third one. We've got another one that's going to be coming up. You're going to enjoy it. We're going to kind of wrap up. We're going to wrap up.

0:14:11 - (Adam Payne): Cursed. Enjoy it.

0:14:12 - (Josh Bellieu): And what I'm going to do is I'm going to play a trick on Adam and Try to stump the inventor, innovator, CEO, research dude sitting over here on my left. I'm Josh Pelly. This is Adam Payne. This is Ultra Life Today. Find us where you like podcasts, give us a five star rating and subscribe. Share.

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0:15:02 - (Josh Bellieu): Hey, welcome back to Ultralife Today. I am Josh Pellew, one of your hosts and I'm hanging out with this.

0:15:08 - (Adam Payne): Guy Adam Paine here. We're in our fourth segment talking about quercetin.

0:15:12 - (Josh Bellieu): We're not talking about quercetin. So real quickly because on the break here our one of our sound producer guys, Thomas mentioned different foods. Look, go to the Internet and simply look up foods that contain quercetin because I couldn't even put it in my notes, it was so very long. But then there's going to be some superstars like onions in the mix there. I can't remember one of the other ones, but it is cool as well. And this is me getting my plug in, Adam, for organic foods, this was a really. To me, this was like a golden nugget.

0:15:47 - (Josh Bellieu): When they compared blood concentrations of cursing after people ate tomatoes.

0:15:54 - (Adam Payne): Yeah.

0:15:55 - (Josh Bellieu): They tested them against farm grown tomatoes versus organic and guess what, 79% more kercetin was present not only in those but but in the bloodstream. So nature is a beautiful way of absorption. Right?

0:16:11 - (Adam Payne): You mean natural organic produce Organic.

0:16:14 - (Josh Bellieu): That's right.

0:16:14 - (Adam Payne): As compared to the genomic modified.

0:16:16 - (Josh Bellieu): Yeah, just as a maybe. I guess it would be a new maybe it would be a new fun thing to call it Big Pharma, but just spell it with big F A R. Big food is what people normally say anyway, so antioxidant potential, chelation potential.

0:16:34 - (Adam Payne): So I had a. So my first W in the 80s, she was from overseas and I brought her to the United States. When we spent our first couple of years in the United States. I went to graduate school and she was first of all overwhelmed and surprised by the. The amount of food that we have here in America and then plentiful. Yeah. And then she was astonished at how unflavorful it was. Lacking flavor.

0:17:01 - (Josh Bellieu): Horrifying.

0:17:01 - (Adam Payne): Yeah.

0:17:02 - (Josh Bellieu): And nothing like when I was a kid.

0:17:05 - (Adam Payne): Yeah.

0:17:06 - (Josh Bellieu): Sadly not even the organic tastes that way. You know, unless I grow it in my own backyard.

0:17:10 - (Adam Payne): Our taste buds do degrade over time. Josh, I don't believe it. It does. Yeah. Sorry.

0:17:15 - (Josh Bellieu): I'm tuning.

0:17:15 - (Adam Payne): So you were gonna. You were going to challenge me with kind of a just stump the inventor question.

0:17:20 - (Josh Bellieu): Did I thought it was so interesting because. And this is something that you've actually taught me about in the past, but you.

0:17:27 - (Adam Payne): So you're gonna stumble with something that I taught you.

0:17:30 - (Josh Bellieu): Well, because you may not know, it applies to quercetin. Right. So I'm trying to give. Drop some hints here so that one of the most prominent things they mentioned about quercetin as one of its unique mechanisms of action in the body is the way it influences something related to detoxing. You want to guess what it might.

0:17:51 - (Adam Payne): Be detoxing liver health phase to detoxification. Okay. We already sort of talked about this phase two.

0:18:01 - (Josh Bellieu): We didn't mention it by name because, you know, we have another product, Ultra Brock, you know, has this beautiful sulforaphane in it. It elevates glutathione naturally, and it's a phenomenal. What is Phase two enzyme detoxification.

0:18:15 - (Adam Payne): Reminds me of those kind of skits where people are like, you know, it's like that fade and they're like, they don't know what the words are, but they pretend that they know it.

0:18:22 - (Josh Bellieu): Well, that's why I'm doing that.

0:18:23 - (Adam Payne): Right.

0:18:24 - (Josh Bellieu): Like, what is it?

0:18:25 - (Adam Payne): So there's. Guess what, there's phase one detoxification.

0:18:28 - (Josh Bellieu): No way.

0:18:29 - (Adam Payne): Yeah.

0:18:29 - (Josh Bellieu): Is there a phase three?

0:18:30 - (Adam Payne): No. Okay, sorry. All right.

0:18:33 - (Josh Bellieu): So anyway, phase two, well, you know.

0:18:34 - (Adam Payne): There might be, but we only talk about phase one and phase two and they can. They typically, they're in balance. And this is why getting a good functional doctor is super critically important for most of us. Because they're one of their good functional doctor. One of the first things that they're going to do is look at your phase one, phase two balance. Some of us can be phase one heavy and phase two light, which means we'll accumulate phase two toxins because they're not processed as fast as our body gets them through phase one. So toxins go through phase one, then they go through phase two, and then they're eliminated.

0:19:12 - (Adam Payne): So phase two has to do with environmental toxins a lot. And in some of us, we can be phase two deficient. And what that means is that we will accumulate toxins. Nrf2. Nrf2, as we like to call it, is one of those genetic pathways in the DNA and in the cell that if we activate, activates the whole phase two detoxification process.

0:19:45 - (Josh Bellieu): Now, are you saying that primarily Phase two toxicity comes from airborne pollutants.

0:19:51 - (Adam Payne): Well, no, being inefficient on phase two means that environmental toxicity will accumulate in the body.

0:20:07 - (Josh Bellieu): Now what happens when you're talking phase two? Where does the detoxification process take place? Is it primarily in the liver? Is it something that happens all over the body?

0:20:17 - (Adam Payne): My understanding is each cell has its own NRF2 unique house cleaning ability.

0:20:24 - (Josh Bellieu): Nice.

0:20:24 - (Adam Payne): So just like the exhaust system in the mitochondria, creating oxidative stress by the accumulation of free radicals. Right. Other environmental toxins can accumulate in the cell, especially if we have a phase disbalance. We could be strong phase one and weak phase two. We could be weak phase one and strong phase two. Which means you're gonna still accumulate a lot of toxins. But until you get your phase one cleansing up, your body's gonna accumulate a lot of different free radical issues.

0:20:56 - (Josh Bellieu): Okay, now I'm gonna ask you something. It's like we would want to phone a friend, but we don't have time. How do you boost your phase one?

0:21:04 - (Adam Payne): I don't know. I don't see.

0:21:06 - (Josh Bellieu): That's why we need Keith Bishop and Deanna Windham here to say, if you eat these things, what would you do?

0:21:11 - (Adam Payne): They go to. They go a lot to a lot more schooling.

0:21:13 - (Josh Bellieu): Well, anyway, anyway, so. But nerve too. So I would think that the foods that are curcitin rich are probably going to help elevate your phase two game.

0:21:25 - (Adam Payne): They will. They will help to do that. And so we have. We know curcumin is a powerful activator of NERF2.

0:21:33 - (Josh Bellieu): Yep.

0:21:34 - (Adam Payne): Quercetin is a powerful activator of Nrf2. Nrf2. And broccoli seed extract is a profile. Is a powerful activator of NRF2. And so we activate that. If you're deficient or you need that extra boost a lot, you know, I recommend. And I'm not a clinical nutritionist, so I have no clinical basis for making this recommendation. But you and I both kind of recommend people once or twice a year doing a good phase two detoxification.

0:22:10 - (Josh Bellieu): I do. I just think, you know, the more we learn about environmental exposure, the more we learn about toxicity in food supply, in water supply. The things were around chemicals, you know, again, airborne type.

0:22:23 - (Adam Payne): Scary.

0:22:23 - (Josh Bellieu): Actually, it's. It is all around us. It makes me really. I'm blown away by the way God has designed our body to be able to stay. Well, I'm. I. It shocks me that people are still living. So I enter their 80s and 90s.

0:22:35 - (Adam Payne): And they're healthy, you know. You know, you. You blew my mind a couple months ago. You did.

0:22:42 - (Josh Bellieu): I can't wait to hear what it was.

0:22:43 - (Adam Payne): This.

0:22:43 - (Josh Bellieu): Was it a good thing? Yeah. Okay, good.

0:22:45 - (Adam Payne): And you're. You're gonna go, oh, yeah, you told me that there's only a couple of clean oils that are out there.

0:22:55 - (Josh Bellieu): Oh, man, this is such a sad state of affairs.

0:22:57 - (Adam Payne): You know, and when I, When I started to look into it, when we're.

0:22:59 - (Josh Bellieu): Talking about oils, we're talking about oils that one would use in cooking or take, such as olive oil.

0:23:04 - (Adam Payne): Oil. And when you, when you shared this with me, I was more than a little bit astonished.

0:23:09 - (Josh Bellieu): I. I was so perturbed when I found out. And I said, that cannot be true. What I'm. What. What Adam is referencing. Yeah. And when I. And when I mentioned it, I think presence of some doctors, let's get shot. And. And they were like, it really is true or no? We were talking to Keith Bishop, I believe.

0:23:27 - (Adam Payne): Yeah, yeah, Keith was there. Keith was like, right. The way that Keith does that.

0:23:32 - (Josh Bellieu): Right. He's a compendium.

0:23:33 - (Adam Payne): Oh, my gosh, what a lovely guy. I wish I could keep a copy of Keith around.

0:23:37 - (Josh Bellieu): You held me back there. Why were you holding me back? As it related to these oils? What were you going to say?

0:23:41 - (Adam Payne): It's just. It blew my mind, Josh. I mean, I had no idea that these oils, these dietary oils that we take in on a lot. I mean, I cook with salads, I cook with foods that half of us.

0:23:56 - (Josh Bellieu): Drink them and take. Take it by the tablespoon.

0:23:58 - (Adam Payne): Well, I. You know, we use organic coconut based MCT oil for anything in Ultra Botanica, which I was glad to learn is actually not a bad oil. Yeah, right.

0:24:10 - (Josh Bellieu): Yeah, but.

0:24:11 - (Adam Payne): But you, but you shared with me that most of these. The big problem.

0:24:17 - (Josh Bellieu): The big problem is all.

0:24:18 - (Adam Payne): So talk to me about this.

0:24:19 - (Josh Bellieu): It's such a bizarre thing and what a fun detour to do. And we've got about four minutes left, so we'll come back to curse it and wrap it up. But there is such a thing, if you can believe this, of the olive oil cartel. Now, keep in mind, you know, it's.

0:24:35 - (Adam Payne): Kind of a thing down in Sicily there.

0:24:37 - (Josh Bellieu): Yo, yo. Right? So we've seen movies and, and we have so many friends and Italian brothers and sisters around the world. But we do know there's an evil element that exists within all cultures. Right. And we happen to know, we've seen the Godfather in other movies, believe it or not.

0:24:52 - (Adam Payne): They are controlling mafia.

0:24:54 - (Josh Bellieu): They are controlling rolling olive Oil. And what they're doing is they're blending in other oils like rapeseed oil and other oils. And some big companies have gone out and tested all these olive oils that are supposed to be organic and special and perfect and wonderful. And they found that they're contaminated with rapeseed oil and canola oil. So they'll put some terpenes in there to make it smell like olive oil. Put a little of olive oil in there.

0:25:19 - (Adam Payne): You're kidding me.

0:25:20 - (Josh Bellieu): Quit it.

0:25:21 - (Adam Payne): Really? I mean, seriously?

0:25:23 - (Josh Bellieu): Yeah. And so it's very, very difficult to be able to find. So there's only a couple of different countries that are single source origin countries that are putting out olive oil. So, you know, from start to finish.

0:25:37 - (Adam Payne): Tunisia.

0:25:38 - (Josh Bellieu): Tunisia.

0:25:40 - (Adam Payne): What do I look for that's made in Tunisia? Where is Tunisia? It's like south of Morocco, right? Yeah, it's in Africa.

0:25:47 - (Josh Bellieu): Right.

0:25:47 - (Adam Payne): And it's good Tunisian olive oil.

0:25:50 - (Josh Bellieu): Yeah. Well, again, now. Again, I don't know what. So as soon as somebody hears this, they're going to go start adulterating the.

0:25:57 - (Adam Payne): But I started to take a look. So I went into Sam's the other day and I looked at the olive oil that they said and. And one of the bottles, like single source blend from Tunisia and Cyprus.

0:26:06 - (Josh Bellieu): I thought, well, that's why they're putting these things on the label these days.

0:26:09 - (Adam Payne): Really.

0:26:10 - (Josh Bellieu): It's begun to be kind of a crisis.

0:26:12 - (Adam Payne): Wow.

0:26:13 - (Josh Bellieu): So.

0:26:13 - (Adam Payne): So olive oil is okay and then avocado oil is okay?

0:26:16 - (Josh Bellieu): Yeah, well, I mean, there's a variety of different. That are good. And coconut oil, man. I mean, good organic coconut oil is rocking.

0:26:25 - (Adam Payne): Yeah.

0:26:25 - (Josh Bellieu): And they're not adulterating that yet because I don't think.

0:26:28 - (Adam Payne): We don't allow adults.

0:26:29 - (Josh Bellieu): I don't think they have a big mafia element where they grow coconuts. I just don't know. Okay, about a minute and a half left before let's wind up this last segment. You know, you mentioned some good things. Look up on the Internet quercetin and the foods that you can eat that are very high in it. And it'll even tell you which portion of that particular vegetable or that fruit that you may eat. That is actually the best part to consume to get high levels of quercetin in your body.

0:26:58 - (Josh Bellieu): We're kind of. We have bragging rights here at Ultra Botanica. And it's really simple. There's a unique technology that was created not a mile and a half from here through Oklahoma Medical Research Foundation, University of Oklahoma Health Sciences Center. Adam has lots of friends still over there. They're working and doing research on our Onco products that we use to help support the immune system for endocrine individuals that are dealing with active cancers.

0:27:22 - (Josh Bellieu): We're a research based company. We're a CGMP company. We've been visited by the fda. We're going to do a, a little teaser for next week. We're going to do a little CGMP down and dirty show of 30 minutes, two segments there that you're going to really, really enjoy. And we're going to talk about what is a CGMP facility, why would the FDA inspect facilities and what horrors do they find when they're there.

0:27:47 - (Adam Payne): So we're going to read some warning letters.

0:27:49 - (Josh Bellieu): Well, we're going to talk about some warning. I could out some people. I'm not going to do that. I don't want it to. I don't want to come back to haunt us Anyway. So again, I've been hanging out with this guy, Adam Payne today. He's the CEO of Ultra Botanica. Super humble guy, Very, very much of an innovator. It's one of the things I love about him. He's constantly looking for the new the new thing that will help you live your ultra life today.

0:28:15 - (Josh Bellieu): Wherever you find podcasts, look us up. Go to our YouTube channel. Subscribe, share. We love you. We appreciate you. We're going to be back. Hopefully the next one you're going to hear is going to be on how do you manufacture a dietary supplement and do it right and what sets us apart from the rest. I'm Josh Bailew.

0:28:35 - (Adam Payne): I'm Adam Payne. Thanks for joining us here at Ultra Life today.

0:28:38 - (Josh Bellieu): Go live your ultra life today.