Why You’re Not Losing Weight: Protein, pH, Fast Food & the 3-Palm Rule

🎯 Struggling with weight, bloating, or inflammation? In this episode of Ultra Life Today, clinical nutritionist and retired pharmacist Keith Bishop reveals the overlooked factors behind stubborn weight gain — and how to fix them.

Learn how protein deficiency, toxic overload, water retention, and even poor breathing habits affect metabolism and health. Plus, Keith breaks down the pros and cons of today’s most talked-about diets: keto, paleo, carnivore, Mediterranean, and plant-based.

Listen to the full episode here or watch it on YouTube: https://youtu.be/GyTBg8JoBdM

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Transcript

0:00:00 - (Keith Bishop): Most people, the reason they can't lose weight, if there's some water retention in their body, if they're puffy and ankles are puffy. Most common cause is actually not quite enough protein for the liver and the heart to work. Right. The liver has to detox. We mentioned detoxing toxic chemicals. The liver has to get rid of that so often. If we can bump up protein sources and it doesn't have to be meat, bump up that protein, the liver is going to function better. It's going to help detox and get rid of toxic chemicals.

0:00:39 - (Josh Bellieu): Hey, welcome back to Ultra Life Today with a very special guest, Keith Bishop. Listen, do you like what we're doing? Help us beat the big tech algorithm, Give us a five star rating. Like us, share us with friends. If you feel the content is relevant, engaging and life changing, that's what we're here for. For you. You can go to ultra today.com learn all about what we do here at Ultra Botanica. Keith, welcome back.

0:01:06 - (Keith Bishop): Great.

0:01:07 - (Josh Bellieu): You know, we were talking on the break and I'm going to mention the P word in a second, but you know, I, I thought of something else. People associate diet with weight loss. I mean, let's just get it right. You could even actually say to someone, I think that maybe, let's say they're 40 or 50 pounds overweight and you could say to them, do you feel healthy? No, I feel miserable. I don't feel good. I feel bad.

0:01:32 - (Josh Bellieu): Do you want to look better or feel better? You know what, most of them would probably say don't feel better. You think a lot of people, I.

0:01:40 - (Keith Bishop): Guess a lot of people want to.

0:01:41 - (Josh Bellieu): Look at the event. I'm getting ready for my wedding. I'm going to lose 30 pounds.

0:01:45 - (Keith Bishop): And that's just something I asked too. I asked, okay, so what is coming up? Right, you know, do I have that, do they have that cruise coming?

0:01:52 - (Josh Bellieu): So where I'm going with this is weight loss because people always want to know, what's the latest fad diet? Please mark that three letter acronym and I won't say what it means. Completely out of your vocabulary. There's lots of diets that are popular. We've mentioned keto, carnivore, paleo, we've mentioned plant based, vegetarian, vegan. And we're going to get into some of those a little bit more here in a second.

0:02:18 - (Josh Bellieu): But Keith, is it right that if a person just begins to say, not go through the drive through or limit how much they go through the drive through. Let's do that. One bite of the apple at a time, looks at the package, at the shelf and goes, There's 10 ingredients I can't pronounce. I'm putting that back. What's going to happen to their weight? Just with drive throughs and processed foods. Help me out.

0:02:48 - (Keith Bishop): Yeah, just that. You know, actually, Oklahoma is almost what used to be a test bed for fast food.

0:02:55 - (Josh Bellieu): That's right. I remember the McRib. We got all kinds of things way back in the day. Right?

0:02:59 - (Keith Bishop): Exactly. We were a test market because everybody has to drive here because we're so spread out. So a test market for fast food. But fast food typically is going to be fried, which is bad fats, you know, breads and french fries, you know, which is too many carbs. And fried in those bad fats. It's just too, way too many calories.

0:03:20 - (Josh Bellieu): And unrecognizable number of chemicals.

0:03:24 - (Keith Bishop): We don't even know.

0:03:25 - (Josh Bellieu): Agents, preservatives. We really don't.

0:03:27 - (Keith Bishop): That special recipe has 21 ingredients in it, you know?

0:03:32 - (Josh Bellieu): Yeah. You know, I bet you didn't know this, Keith. Or maybe you did. Do you know when big tobacco got in trouble? You remember that movie that Al Pacino did, and big tobacco got hit with a big lawsuit. Do you know while all that was going on, where that big tobacco was investing their money?

0:03:46 - (Keith Bishop): No.

0:03:47 - (Josh Bellieu): In big food. They literally decided, if we can't keep people addicted to tobacco, we'll get them addicted to food. And they had the chemistry and the ability to know how to get people addicted by adding chemicals and flavors.

0:04:02 - (Keith Bishop): Science. Exactly. That flavor thing, those chips, those french fries, what they add to those french fries so that you will want to eat them. You can't eat just one. That's right. Okay.

0:04:13 - (Josh Bellieu): That's right.

0:04:13 - (Keith Bishop): Because it's a science. And they know what they're doing. They know they're adding that MSG to it because we have a taste bud for msg, they call it, you know, and because we like that taste and they're adding that stuff in there, but just way too many chemicals. So it needs to be the kiss principle. Keep it simple.

0:04:32 - (Josh Bellieu): Yes. Okay, so you heard it from Keith there again, what are the most popular diets out there? Well, I use that word, popular, but in essence, you want to change your diet because you're unhealthy. And it may also be an appearance thing for you as well. And the two probably kind of go hand in hand. I have friends that struggle with their weight. And many times as I sit down, Keith, and I'm talking to them, you know, man, I get heartburn every time I eat. I, I just kind of go down the list. I end up with headaches, you know, when I eat food, you know, things like that. And I'm like, well, where did you get your last meal from?

0:05:13 - (Josh Bellieu): Drive through a box.

0:05:15 - (Keith Bishop): Exactly. So.

0:05:19 - (Josh Bellieu): Would you avoid the popular diet or the most popular diet? Because again, we're talking one size doesn't fit all. Tell me how you do it. When somebody comes into you. You mentioned a questionnaire. You mentioned, I've got a procedure I take them through. Does that help you categorize them? To be able to say, I think carnivore for you for a while or keto for a while or paleo for a while, or Mediterranean.

0:05:45 - (Keith Bishop): So I do assess them physically. And so we do a nutrition physical. And so one thing that can be an issue for weight loss is a zinc deficiency. Zinc is a molecule that's inside the insulin molecule. If you don't have enough zinc, insulin will not be shaped and work right. Won't transfer the sugars into your cells. You won't have the energy. Sugar is going to float around. You're going to have to make belly fat or make fat in the body for it. So I do that.

0:06:12 - (Keith Bishop): If they do have some indigestion, we're looking at that. We do a saliva PH and see if they're in an acid state. But then also I'm physically looking at them. And we also have a test that I do that measures how much water, muscle and fat. But the water, how much water is inside the cells and outside the cells and cell health, why is that and.

0:06:32 - (Josh Bellieu): What does that mean? What's the significance of that?

0:06:34 - (Keith Bishop): So if there's a lot of water outside the cells, they have some type of a toxin. And so we don't know what it is, but we know that there's a toxin. It could be a food or a chemical. Then the last number is called a phase angle. And the phase angle, if it's low, then that means that the cells are actually not healthy and more toward like, you know, not, well, not healthy and, or dying. And so not healthy. That means it's a nasty toxin, like a chemical.

0:07:05 - (Keith Bishop): Wow. And we still don't know what it is.

0:07:07 - (Josh Bellieu): Which could even potentially be something like a heavy metal or something like that.

0:07:11 - (Keith Bishop): Exactly. We don't know something that is physically damaging the cells. And so that guides me as to what to recommend. And so with that, then I will look at their food and try to say, okay, well, what could be more of a toxic thing if the cell health is great. Then we're going to be looking at, okay, what foods may become toxic or a person can have a sensitivity to foods. So one client, actually it was beans and cheese.

0:07:44 - (Keith Bishop): Once she removed the beans and cheese, she lost 35 pounds within a few months.

0:07:48 - (Josh Bellieu): Oh, my gosh. And you mentioned on the last segment that you yourself, when you were doing the blood type diet, just took two things out of your diet.

0:07:55 - (Keith Bishop): Right, right.

0:07:57 - (Josh Bellieu): And what did that change in you?

0:07:58 - (Keith Bishop): It was allergies. Allergies and skin rashes and achiness. I used to have a history of rheumatoid arthritis. I test negative now, so I've made enough changes and my gut health is better. And so now I can, I can eat anything, but I still don't eat much dairy and I don't eat very many grains.

0:08:18 - (Josh Bellieu): So when you mentioned ph test strips recently, I had my ph tested by a biological dentist here in town. Talk to you about them, you know. Well, you know, you know one of them. Oh, you might know both of them. They do work together.

0:08:29 - (Keith Bishop): Okay.

0:08:30 - (Josh Bellieu): But by the way, our good friend Deborah Osman, of course, is one of those people. You introduced me to her, I believe, at one of your first health meetups at your place. But let's say I've just come in. Oh, but back to PH for a second. What do you like to see as an optimum range and when is the best time for someone? If someone hears this and they go, I'm going to get myself some ph test strips and see what I'm all about by testing, you know, my ph, what's the best time of day for someone to test that? And what is an expected range that you would say, hey, not bad, or.

0:09:04 - (Keith Bishop): So typically, first thing in the morning. And so before we eat or drink, before we put, most important, before we put anything in our mouth, because it's.

0:09:12 - (Josh Bellieu): Going to affect that pH, of course.

0:09:14 - (Keith Bishop): Whether we drink or eat, it's going to have some minerals in it. That's what the ph is, is mineral balance. And so I typically like to first thing in the morning. The only time that might be an issue is if somebody has a severe issue with sleep apnea, because that person actually might be a little bit more acidic because they're not breathing out carbon dioxide, which is acid.

0:09:38 - (Josh Bellieu): Wow.

0:09:38 - (Keith Bishop): And so, matter of fact, I have a tendency to be acidic.

0:09:41 - (Josh Bellieu): Now.

0:09:41 - (Keith Bishop): I test myself first thing in the morning. It's great. And then two hours later, I get to work. And if I haven't been practicing my therapeutic breathing, I'm going to Be acidic. And so we get down to six. That's serious. And I can feel, Feel that in my muscles when I'm walking down the hallway through the pharmacy. If I'm at a six, I know it. I already know. My legs are telling me they're fatigued.

0:10:07 - (Josh Bellieu): So my recollection from science class is that every point on a ph scale, potential hydrogen scale, is 10 times exponential type things.

0:10:18 - (Keith Bishop): Yes, exactly.

0:10:20 - (Josh Bellieu): So as a human doing my PH in the morning, if I'm between 6.5 and 7, are you saying we still have issues? Where do you like to see that?

0:10:29 - (Keith Bishop): Actually, 6.5 is the bottom end of normal. Our goal is actually 6.8 to 7. That's optimal.

0:10:37 - (Josh Bellieu): Very good to know.

0:10:39 - (Keith Bishop): And below that, 6.5 is the last part. Anything below 6.5 is acidity.

0:10:45 - (Josh Bellieu): I like to make things really practical for people, Keith, because I see things like what you recommend using nitric oxide strips to test your nitric oxide ph. I. I see those as tools that help an individual establish new mental habits. In other words, if I'm doing my ph and I wake up in the morning and I'm at a 6.8, I'm like, atta boy, Josh. And it does something for me mentally, help me get through the day.

0:11:12 - (Keith Bishop): It does.

0:11:13 - (Josh Bellieu): And if it's off, I'm like, I need to make a little adjustment.

0:11:16 - (Keith Bishop): That's what I had to do. And so a couple of days ago, I had an appointment and a person was acidic. So I'll show you. Oh my goodness. I'm acidic too. And so I. So then I go back, you know, I haven't been doing my, actually my therapeutic breathing. And so I talk all day like this. When we're talking like this, it just check upper chest, quick little breaths and not deep breathing. And so I have a tendency to be acidic. And so I have to do deep breathing as part of a not quite meditation but relaxing type thing. And. But that I can actually, within five minutes, my ph will go up four tenths of a point.

0:11:52 - (Josh Bellieu): It's so funny when you mentioned just a minute ago, and I don't remember the term you used, I call it intentional or conscious breathing. The moment you said that, I immediately went, oh, Josh. Yeah, I took a nice breath through my nose and breathing. And it's like I do this costal shallow breathing so much.

0:12:09 - (Keith Bishop): I do that and all day long.

0:12:11 - (Josh Bellieu): And I don't know if it's. I don't know if it's everybody or people like you and I that tend to be slight. I have A tendency to just kind of, there's actually, you know, I did.

0:12:19 - (Keith Bishop): Read that there actually is a genetic marker for it.

0:12:22 - (Josh Bellieu): Interesting.

0:12:23 - (Keith Bishop): And although the genetic testing that I've done, I don't think that was included in it. But I did read that there is a genetic tendency for shallow breathing.

0:12:31 - (Josh Bellieu): Okay, okay.

0:12:32 - (Keith Bishop): So we have to be intentional.

0:12:34 - (Josh Bellieu): All right, so I want to recap a little bit in this segment because we want to bust some myths here. One of the ones was, gosh, just learning to be moderate and slow down the intake of fast food drive throughs those restaurants and there's a hundred of them out there of different names that in itself can begin to affect your weight and your health in a positive manner. I would even, I would even be so bold as to say doing all the metabolic panels and all the blood tests and stuff while you're still eating the fast food way.

0:13:12 - (Josh Bellieu): And just two weeks later, if you went back in and you'd minimized fast food drive through, you changed the amount of processed food you were eating. You would be shocked at how quickly those blood tests change, those metabolic panels change. Now, Keith, we're going to be going into another segment here in a minute and I'm going to kind of drop a bomb on people. There was a recent report came out, I don't know if you saw this, but it basically said that 88% of Americans metabolic health is in the toilet. If I can be so bold as to use. That's not clinical verbiage but, but if you looked at the clinical evidence, they basically said we only have 12% of Americans that actually would function in a category of what we call somewhat close to optimum metabolic health.

0:13:58 - (Josh Bellieu): I would expect that, yes, that is frightening to me. We're going to be back with Keith Bishop. We're going to talk about different diets. But remember, diet isn't a one size fits all thing. But I will tell you this, there's advantages. Two different diets, Paleo, Mediterrane, plant based, vegetarian, even carnivore. Some of them can be brilliant. Diets as a therapeutic tool for a period of time to radically change your health. Move the needle quickly and then you may want to go to a little bit more of a moderate thing rather than a heavily restricted keto or therapeutic diet.

0:14:31 - (Josh Bellieu): So we'll be back. This is Ultra Life today. I'm Josh Bell. You're hanging out with my good friend Keith Bishop. We're going to come back and talk about lifestyle, not diet, way of life. We want to change your thinking and we want to Give you maybe some practical tips over the next couple of segments into exactly what's going to happen for you and your health.

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0:15:21 - (Josh Bellieu): Welcome back to Ultralife Today. I'm your host today, Josh Bellew. We've got Adam Payne doing CEO like things, the innovator and the inventor of our unique technology, LPS technology. You want to learn more about that and how we get plant bioactive compounds into the bloodstream at extremely high levels. Guess what? Go to ultra today.com my good friend Keith Bishop, retired pharmacist, clinical nutritionist.

0:15:50 - (Josh Bellieu): Go to his website, prevailovercancer.com you may be someone that is concerned you may have an active cancer. A lot of free information there, good insights and a way to get in touch with Keith for private consultations. Prevailovercancer.com also flourishrx.com f l o u r I s h r x.com that's where you can work on the metabolic, health things and stuff like that with Keith as well. So each of those places you can reach him.

0:16:21 - (Josh Bellieu): Want to make sure. Keith, gosh, thanks for hanging out. We're in the home stretch here, so we're going to have to somehow figure out how to take all the different things, the balls we've been juggling and try to put it together and actually give some people some practical insight moving forward. Now could we go ahead and for 30,000 foot again, could we for a second talk about like maybe the Mediterranean time? Okay.

0:16:42 - (Keith Bishop): Yes. Mediterranean, which actually is the best studied in medical research.

0:16:49 - (Josh Bellieu): A lot of empirical evidence. Right.

0:16:50 - (Keith Bishop): A lot of research.

0:16:51 - (Josh Bellieu): Hundreds, thousands of years coming.

0:16:53 - (Keith Bishop): Exactly. And a healthy way. But it's kind of a combination of everything. So it's a moderate protein, animal protein, definitely some legumes for some protein sources. They do have some grains. And so it's a very broad type diet. And there's definitely even beneficially, there's even different type. The Mediterranean is an ocean. And each country has their own version. And so each region they're eating their local food.

0:17:23 - (Josh Bellieu): Very cultural. And eating local. That's healthy.

0:17:27 - (Keith Bishop): It is. They don't have fast foods.

0:17:31 - (Josh Bellieu): Well. Right. My sister, when she lived in Spain for all those years teaching school over there and taking tours of people all around Europe, she went to the market for fresh food every day.

0:17:43 - (Keith Bishop): Yes, exactly. They walk and they walk.

0:17:45 - (Josh Bellieu): She would get fresh chicken. She would get everything fresh. Yeah. And they walked. Everybody walked.

0:17:50 - (Keith Bishop): Everybody walked.

0:17:51 - (Josh Bellieu): Everybody. Interestingly enough, you didn't see too many people struggling with their weight.

0:17:55 - (Keith Bishop): That's great.

0:17:56 - (Josh Bellieu): Imagine that.

0:17:56 - (Keith Bishop): So I've had clients come back and actually I'm thinking one lady particular, she loved it. She was in Spain and she lost weight. She loved it. Market walking and then she comes back.

0:18:08 - (Josh Bellieu): Felt incredible until she crossed back.

0:18:09 - (Keith Bishop): And then she came back, she starts feeling, starts gaining weight and she's feeling bad. And so we had to just take her back to that and to decrease, you know, the fast food and get the fresher foods and more local grown. But you know, the grocery stores are so well stocked here typically that we can't. We don't always know what's local. We don't have that. Of course, in seasonal, you know, wintertime it's more difficult.

0:18:34 - (Josh Bellieu): Seasonal, local and organic. It's a struggle for sure. Okay, touched on Mediterranean. What's a paleo diet?

0:18:41 - (Keith Bishop): So paleo is.

0:18:42 - (Josh Bellieu): And how does that compare with carnivore maybe?

0:18:44 - (Keith Bishop): Yeah. And paleo is more. It's more restrictive than the Mediterranean. More of a. I would call it a caveman diet.

0:18:53 - (Josh Bellieu): Hunter gatherer kind of.

0:18:54 - (Keith Bishop): Yeah, hunter gatherer type thing.

0:18:55 - (Josh Bellieu): We may grow some things for certain times of year.

0:18:58 - (Keith Bishop): We can't, you know, seasonal, regional type foods. Definitely some animal proteins, but limited grains. And so they weren't growing legumes. They, you know, thinking about a hunter gatherer, they were living off the land.

0:19:14 - (Josh Bellieu): Right.

0:19:14 - (Keith Bishop): Okay. And they weren't necessarily farming and they weren't growing the corn, they weren't growing the beans.

0:19:20 - (Josh Bellieu): Sounds like they were getting the very best picking wild berries and wild crafting and nuts and seeds.

0:19:26 - (Keith Bishop): And they may actually, you know, there were some grasses that were growing and they grabbed those grasses and they would eat those seeds.

0:19:33 - (Josh Bellieu): Hey, if it's good for a cow.

0:19:34 - (Keith Bishop): Exactly. To a certain extent. We don't have that many stomach, but you know, so we can't absorb those nutrients. But. But the seeds are packed nutrients. So they would eat those seeds and those nuts and. And fruits and berries and seasonal type things.

0:19:48 - (Josh Bellieu): Yeah. And I have to say as well, my guess is just from my little bit of my foray into being known enough to be dangerous, there was a lot of organ meats eaten back in that day as opposed to the types of cuts of meat that we get.

0:20:02 - (Keith Bishop): Right.

0:20:02 - (Josh Bellieu): So, you know, if your mom raised you on healthy liver before they started putting pesticide, if you can find organic, you know, livers and things like that. Pretty healthy stuff, right?

0:20:12 - (Keith Bishop): Yes, very.

0:20:13 - (Josh Bellieu): Those organ meats.

0:20:14 - (Keith Bishop): Yes, very healthy. Lots of nutrients.

0:20:16 - (Josh Bellieu): Yeah.

0:20:17 - (Keith Bishop): And that's part of the, you know, but once again, that's an organic type thing. But that's, that's extremely difficult to find and, and more expensive. So that's the best case scenario to do those things. But it's not absolutely required. But, you know, it's difficult.

0:20:35 - (Josh Bellieu): Keith, I see. I recently began to watch some high profile people in the carnivore space online. A few months back I started on was remarkable to me to see these individuals that were carnivores that had these stories of getting through autoimmune disorders, getting through cancers, getting through all kinds of health challenges, had poor joints, had poor absorption, had poor microbiome. I mean everything you can imag.

0:21:06 - (Josh Bellieu): And they went carnivore. Of course, they're eating really healthy carnivore. They're not just buying the standard meats and things like that. They're trying to do grass fed and stuff like that. I was shocked at how long many of these people had been on a carnivore diet and were the picture of health and their medical records to prove it. What are your thoughts there? And is that just a small subset of people again that do that and have this beautiful therapeutic benefit, but for most people, do they still need to bring some balance back into that? What are your thoughts?

0:21:36 - (Keith Bishop): So by doing the carnivore they are eliminating all the allergic.

0:21:42 - (Josh Bellieu): All those grains, all those allergens, all those pesticides, all those chemicals.

0:21:46 - (Keith Bishop): Exactly.

0:21:47 - (Josh Bellieu): Oh my gosh.

0:21:47 - (Keith Bishop): So they've eliminated that. So that's kind of the Paleo too. Paleo is going back to that. Just a moment. Is eliminating grains and legumes and dairy. Those are three major things, sugar and sweets. But eliminating those because those are like highly allergic. So that was kind of when I did that o blood type many years ago, you know, I removed a couple of those foods and definitely felt better. So the Paleo helps remove some of those. A carnivore would even remove more.

0:22:19 - (Josh Bellieu): Wow. So that's kind of an ultra therapeutic diet in the way you're describing it. Because technically a person may not have realized I just cut out the pesticides, I cut out the chemicals, I cut out all the sugars, the grains which are going to be high glycemic and the carrots that are high glycemic and things. Even though we think of those as healthy.

0:22:37 - (Keith Bishop): Right.

0:22:38 - (Josh Bellieu): But where do people get their vitamins and Their minerals from eating just meat only.

0:22:43 - (Keith Bishop): Well, meat does have vitamins and minerals in it, and so they, they can get that. I'd also known a few people had issues with digestive health because they didn't get enough fiber.

0:22:54 - (Josh Bellieu): Okay.

0:22:55 - (Keith Bishop): And so they, you know, that would.

0:22:56 - (Josh Bellieu): Be being irregular could lend itself to a person going high. Carnivore.

0:23:00 - (Keith Bishop): Yes. So we have to have, you know, have to have enough fiber to help move things through the body, help the good bacteria to grow. And matter of fact, you know, what we eat affects that bacteria balance, the microbiome inside the intestine. So, you know, the one downside potentially, once again, actually carnivores still be careful about those preserved meats. And eating those, cooking those and eating those would be a definite concern. And then in the cancer spot, the issue is that actually consistently research shows that high amounts of red meat increases the risk of cancer.

0:23:37 - (Keith Bishop): And so that's going to be a little bit of a caution. So we have to be aware of that and weigh that balance.

0:23:45 - (Josh Bellieu): Yeah. And I would love to see the data as we have more and more carnivores out there, if it's really just the red meat or if it's the red meat combined with other things that people are eating or the way it's cooked. Yeah. Talk about that for just a second, Keith, because you have a particular 165.

0:24:02 - (Keith Bishop): Is that it's a 150. 350 degrees Fahrenheit in an oven which is 177 centigrade.

0:24:11 - (Josh Bellieu): There you go.

0:24:12 - (Keith Bishop): Because I do stuff worldwide and so I have to always do both of those. But if you start cooking, whether it be breads or grains or even meat typically above that temperature, now you're starting to burn the food. And for. It's going to be acrylamides, basically for breads and grains, you know, to heterocyclic or polyaromatic amines in meats. And so we can actually burn the sugars that are in them. There is sugar in meat. We can burn those sugars and go into some problems too. So we have to be careful about temperature and overcooking, browning.

0:24:48 - (Keith Bishop): If it's starting to turn brown, maybe a little bit too much cooking on. On meat or even bread.

0:24:55 - (Josh Bellieu): Okay. Into the home stretch here. I have found the little changes. You know, Keith, I tell people when I find out how they're hydrating and they basically tell me they're not drinking any water and they're drinking all iced tea and stuff. You know where I start and maybe you can take it from there and give us some practical steps moving out of this. We've got a few minutes left. I tell people, you know what, don't get the 64 ounce container of water that you're going to lug out, lug around with you all day long. It's way too much of a new habit. Do this for me. Are you actually sitting down to eat a meal at least once or twice or even three times a day? Well, on day one, introduce six to eight ounces of water in that pure water, you know, some filtered water, something good.

0:25:39 - (Josh Bellieu): Introduce that at that meal. I'm not even going to be worried about whether you drink it before or after or during. I'm going to leave that alone for now. Right. There's theories, there's a whole nother, but I do that and then I say, and what you're going to notice is that after you drink one glass of water at a meal for one or two days, then you can go ahead and include it at two meals and then you can go ahead and include it at three meals if you're doing that. And after about 10 days.

0:26:04 - (Josh Bellieu): And I've noticed this, when people start drinking water, they actually crave myrtle more Oftentimes they like. When they're not.

0:26:10 - (Keith Bishop): Yeah, they start liking it and find that it is satisfying. But you got to get rid of that taste, you know, of these other beverages and so that.

0:26:18 - (Josh Bellieu): Well, exactly. And I find that as people substitute more with water and it becomes habitual for them to pick up the bottle or like me and my little bottle here, that they're less likely to pop the can of soft drink open, hit the drive through for the sweet tea or whatever it may be. What are some practical things that you would say to people that haven't even met you and they may not meet you? So some things that they could do, thinking, you know, I've got some little things I could do that I'm going to see make a difference in my life and then I can begin to build on that.

0:26:52 - (Keith Bishop): Okay, so number one, we mentioned probably fast food.

0:26:55 - (Josh Bellieu): Okay.

0:26:56 - (Keith Bishop): You know, and so we typically, many of us, most of us have way too much fast food. And so try to eliminate that. Even if you go there, it's still we want to concentrate on. I call it a three palm rule. You know, one palm of, you know, if you're going to have meat, it'd be meat and then two palms with the vegetables, that's a meal. Any more than that's going to be too much if you're vegan, it'd be two palms worth of beans and then one palm of greens or vegetables with that.

0:27:28 - (Keith Bishop): So we have to limit our meals to three palms of food. If you have more than that, that's too much. If you have pizza, it's three pieces of pizza.

0:27:36 - (Josh Bellieu): Cauliflower crust, right?

0:27:37 - (Keith Bishop): Cauliflower crust. We did, we didn't mention that on this, on the show. But yes, cauliflower crust. Great. I love it. And so because it's a lower carb.

0:27:44 - (Josh Bellieu): Much lower carb, it tastes awesome. If you love that in crispy pizza, so good.

0:27:48 - (Keith Bishop): Oh, that is the best way to do that. But limit to three pieces. Okay. And so we can't have more than that. And then snacks. Most people, the reason they can't lose weight, if there's some water retention in their body, if they're puffy and ankles are puffy. Most common cause is actually not quite enough protein for the liver and the heart to work. Right. The liver has to detox. We mentioned detoxing toxic chemicals. The liver has to get rid of that so often. If we can bump up protein sources and it doesn't have to be meat, bump up that protein, the liver is going to function better. It's going to help detox and get rid of toxic chemicals.

0:28:27 - (Josh Bellieu): You know, we have been spending time with Keith Bishop. We could probably go on for another hour, but we can't. So I want to tell you really quickly again how you can get a hold of him. If you want to know about us Ultra Botanica, go to ultra today.com you can learn all about what we do. We're a fascinating, innovative company that supplies product to doctors, pharmacists all over the world as well as health food stores, natural grocers, other places like that.

0:28:53 - (Josh Bellieu): You can reach out to Keith through his website, prevailovercancer.com or you can go to flourishrx.com f l o u r I s h r x.com for the metabolic, health, metabolic in Keith. I can't thank you enough for showing up. You are always just available and I learn something from you every time I see you.

0:29:15 - (Keith Bishop): Oh, it's a, it's a pleasure. I love doing it. I love your company and how they're helping people and spreading the word. Not necessarily just pushing pills.

0:29:23 - (Josh Bellieu): No, that's it. Yeah. We gotta help people change their life, right? It's all about, what did we call it? A way of life. Right?

0:29:28 - (Keith Bishop): That's right.

0:29:28 - (Josh Bellieu): It's not diet, it's a way of life. This is Ultra. Today I'M Josh Bellew, Ultralife Today. This is Josh Bellew. Find us wherever you love podcasts like us. Share, subscribe. Give us a five star rating. We'll see you next time. Thank you, Sam.