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What Is Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy? Benefits for PTSD, Lung Recovery & More

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What do toxic burn pits, PTSD, and a hotel built like a spaceship in the 1930s all have in common? In this eye-opening episode of Ultra Life Today, we sit down with Paul Conrady of Hyperbaric Fitness to explore the healing power of hyperbaric air therapy, the untold damage of burn pits, and how oxygen under pressure could be the key to better brain, lung, and immune health.

You’ll hear jaw-dropping stories of recovery from post-COVID lung damage, PTSD, and veterans exposed to environmental toxins — plus a deep dive into the real difference between hyperbaric air and hyperbaric oxygen, and why that matters.

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0:00:00 - (Paul Conrady): One of the big things that nobody talks about. Are you familiar with the burn pits?

0:00:04 - (Josh Bellieu): No.

0:00:05 - (Paul Conrady): Okay, well, the burn pits are. The veterans are familiar with it because when they were in Afghanistan, everything on that base was burned so it didn't have to be removed by vehicle.

0:00:15 - (Josh Bellieu): Oh, wow.

0:00:16 - (Paul Conrady): So they drove bulldozers around, you know, five acre pits constantly fires batteries, cars, vehicles, human pieces w everything that they're moving around to burn complete. Well, that plume of smoke goes up and whichever way the wind's blowing. So many of my veterans that come in tell me about having to put wet towels in the doors of their sleeping quarters. Wow. And their soot everywhere. I mean, they may have it there. So it's not airborne.

0:00:46 - (Paul Conrady): But every time they move in their sleeping quarter.

0:00:48 - (Josh Bellieu): So how did you see these burn pits affecting these guys?

0:00:52 - (Paul Conrady): And ladies, there's esophagal cancers that they've never seen. They're crazy. I mean, it's the Agent Orange of today. That's what we're dealing with. And it's not being spoken.

0:01:06 - (Josh Bellieu): Very few people I had not heard the term. Hey everyone, welcome to Ultra Life today. We have got someone that I have been wanting to meet and that we have been wanting to interview. And of course, what does the illustrious Adam Payne do to me? He walks in looking old, tired last Friday, but looked refreshed and I said, what have you been doing? He said, well, I just took a dive and I'm like, wait a minute, hyperbaric? And he said, yeah, this guy named Paul Conrady. I said we have to interview him.

0:01:50 - (Josh Bellieu): And lo and behold, four days later, he's right here in our studio. So anyway, welcome to Ultraral Life today. Paul Conrady. How are you, Brian?

0:01:57 - (Paul Conrady): He. Thank you. I hope I can live up to all that expectation.

0:02:00 - (Josh Bellieu): Oh, no, no, no, it's going to be great. You know how I first heard of you, Paul? A great friend of mine, we go back 20 plus years is named Dale Epperon. He had the number one rated television show on Saturday mornings. It was connected with News 9, it was called found causes. And he would go and interview people that were in the 501 3, nonprofit, not for profit world. And he told me stories after he interviewed, I believe it's your partner or the gentleman that was. What is his name?

0:02:30 - (Paul Conrady): Well, Bill Duncan is.

0:02:31 - (Josh Bellieu): Bill Duncan, Right. And very prolific here in Oklahoma City and even in Washington, I think as it relates to hyperbaric. But you know, you mentioned something before the broadcast. But anyway, Dale told me these stories that were absolutely mind boggling regarding individuals with ptsd. Individuals that had been involved in Gulf War, in Middle Eastern conflicts, all kinds of situations. So I want to mention Paul represents a company called Hyperbaric Fitness. Okay.

0:03:02 - (Josh Bellieu): And it's a super easy website to remember hyperbaricfitnessokk.com and we're also going to mention later on several times how you can connect directly with Paul. Really cool guy. And they've got an amazing center just north of our studios here out past Memorial Road.

0:03:22 - (Paul Conrady): Well, we're at Hefner and Hefner Parkway.

0:03:24 - (Josh Bellieu): Perfect. Okay. I know that area well. So I have to ask you, first of all, I don't know much about your personal background because before we even get into you moving into Hyperbaric Fitness and what that, how you got involved in that, what's your own personal background, Paul?

0:03:43 - (Paul Conrady): Well, my wife and I had. I had a Edmund Security for 32 years and that's 24, seven on call for that long. We did it and so we had about 20 employees. And after 32 years, I said, you know, I was going to let my son take off with it. And that didn't really what he wanted to do. So we sold our business and then I started volunteering about that same time at the Patriot Clinic where we helped soldiers get their life back.

0:04:17 - (Josh Bellieu): Yeah, I. And so something when you transitioned out of your security business. And by the way, now I know how I know you as well through your security business. I had a business in Edmund, Oklahoma for many, many years. And your name was brought up regularly in circles out there.

0:04:35 - (Paul Conrady): I hope, I hope in a good way.

0:04:37 - (Josh Bellieu): It was. Indeed it was. So how did you first hear about Patriot Hyperbaric, which was, I believe, out in Bethany, at that location out there in Bethany at the time. How did you hear about that and what intrigued you asked to volunteer there?

0:04:53 - (Paul Conrady): Well, I was at a counterterrorism conference. I was in the security business and I knew a lot of legislatures and I was very involved with the threat back in the day, which is becoming even more so today, it seems like. But we had a bunch of dignitaries in from Washington and we had a meeting down at the House of Representatives. And so as we would go in and out of break would I kept seeing this guy and I was like, that guy just doesn't fit in here. I mean, here's all these military people and Bill Duncan doesn't look like that military person.

0:05:27 - (Paul Conrady): So I went up and introduced myself and I said, so how do you fit into this group? And he whipped out his card and said, I fix brains. And I Said, so you're a neurologist? And he goes, no, I put him in a hyperbaric chamber. And he said, hey, Paul, people are coming back with PTSD by the droves and we're not fixing them and we're not going to have an army if we don't start taking care of our veterans that are returning home damaged.

0:05:52 - (Josh Bellieu): Did you know at the time anything about hyperbaric oxygen? What you call. You told us before the broadcast when you and I and Adam were talking, you said, I take people scuba diving. But you do it in obviously in a very controlled environment in a really limited space. And they never go to the ocean.

0:06:10 - (Paul Conrady): No, they don't get wet. I got to tell people that when we go diving, we don't get wet. So that's where. But no, at the time that all this was going on, you know, Bill said, they come back home with ptsd, and I have to apologize to all my veteran community out there. At this point in my life, PTSD was not understood by me. I was like, hey, soldier, you get back home, go back to work, take care of your family.

0:06:34 - (Paul Conrady): What's this needing full ride benefits? All these benefits for, you know, all you did was go to war, you know. Well, so I put Bill's card in my pocket. Friday afternoon, Sunday morning, I'm at church and the guy sitting in front of, he's bawling his eyes out for an hour. Now, our pastor's good, he ain't that good. So I made it a point to catch him in the lobby and I said, dude, are you okay? And he goes, no.

0:07:02 - (Paul Conrady): My family asked me to leave last night and I don't know if I have a place to go back to. I about got violent with my family and I said, dude, what would, what would make you do that? And he goes, I have PTSD so bad, I can't live with myself.

0:07:17 - (Josh Bellieu): Wow, you just said something there. And so here you are, you meet first name again of your friend that you met out at the. Out at the legislator.

0:07:29 - (Paul Conrady): Bill Duncan.

0:07:30 - (Josh Bellieu): Yes, Bill. So you meet Bill, and isn't it just like God? I have to say this. I get introduced to something that is absolutely life changing. And typically, what God does to me is he throws me under the bus and I meet a person the very next day or the same day that needs that. And it just kind of cements the world together. It brings confirmation about why we're here, what we're doing, which is helping people.

0:07:56 - (Josh Bellieu): So hyperbaric oxygen, because we're going to go back to this gentleman's story in a little bit. What is the history of hyperbaric oxygen? How far does this go back? Is a modality that people have used as a therapy tool. And who discovered it? What's it all about?

0:08:14 - (Paul Conrady): Well, in 1670s, some Europeans built a hyperbaric chamber.

0:08:18 - (Josh Bellieu): Whoa.

0:08:19 - (Paul Conrady): Noeah.

0:08:19 - (Josh Bellieu): No way.

0:08:20 - (Paul Conrady): Yeah. Really? I got a drawing of it.

0:08:22 - (Josh Bellieu): That's incredible.

0:08:22 - (Paul Conrady): If you go online and look for the history of hyperbarilic and we'll try.

0:08:25 - (Josh Bellieu): To include some images of some of the stuff you've done. So you'll leave that flash drive with.

0:08:30 - (Paul Conrady): So anyway, that's when it started. And if you can imagine, as they learned about it and they started utilizing it and following outcomes, these doctors in Europe were having success. Well, if you can go X feet for X time, why can't you go deeper and longer and deeper and longer and deeper and longer. And so eventually they started creating what?

0:08:56 - (Josh Bellieu): So yes, hyperbaric oxygen.

0:08:58 - (Paul Conrady): Decompressionompression.

0:08:59 - (Josh Bellieu): Right. So I have to ask you real quick, back in 1670, were they just kind of saying we don't really know what this will do, so we're just going to put people with all kinds of different maladies and figure out if it helps them?

0:09:12 - (Paul Conrady): They were studying viruses for the most part. That's where they, that's where they started with this. Now remember, we're talking hyperbaric air. Hyperbaric oxygen didn't come around until the mid-1900s. OK. And it was because you ever heard the term Caon disease?

0:09:27 - (Josh Bellieu): I have not.

0:09:27 - (Paul Conrady): So when they were building, I believe it is a Brooklyn Bridge. If somebody gets on there and starts, you can debate me on all this. I'm trying to pull it upright, but I may get some things wrong. But they were building, I believe, the Brooklyn Bridge. And to do that they had to go down in the river very deep to build the caissons. Well, a lot of people were dying.

0:09:46 - (Josh Bellieu): Wow.

0:09:47 - (Paul Conrady): Can you believe that? I mean, they didn't understand decompression sickness. So I assume that when this was in favor in Europe, it started falling out of favor as people were having a negative response to going deeper and longer. Because in the 1800s it started falling out of favor. And it wasn't until Orville Cunningham got engaged. And you probably heard this during the COVID outbreak. Orville Cunningham, a doctor up in Kansas City, started treating people with hyperbaric air. Of course, Spanish flu.

0:10:21 - (Paul Conrady): He was pushing back on the Spanish flu and curing the Spanish flu. Okay.

0:10:26 - (Josh Bellieu): Wow.

0:10:26 - (Paul Conrady): Isn't that crazy?

0:10:27 - (Josh Bellieu): That's so Impressive. So impressive. So fast forward me. We're out of the 1670s now. When did this begin to bring at least a greater level of awareness? I think you had mentioned to me before there may have been some military applications early on. What was going on?

0:10:46 - (Paul Conrady): Well, shortly after Orville started, Dr. Cunningham started having success with this hyperbaric air. A billionaire came to him and said, why don't we build a hotel?

0:10:57 - (Josh Bellieu): And what is our date on this?

0:10:58 - (Paul Conrady): 1930. 1930, in the early 30s is when they built this hotel. It was five stories, it was a ball, it was a sphere. The centered level was a dining room. And you had hotel rooms above and below. And people would stay there for the weekend under pressure of air.

0:11:18 - (Josh Bellieu): Seriously serious within their normal environment, like a hotel room.

0:11:22 - (Paul Conrady): But somebody died. And I mean, he took everybody in and that were really, really, really sickow. And there was a death or. I can't remember, I don't know the particulars, but there was some death in that hotel. And when that happened, the powers to be stepped in and said, hey, they made a mockery out of him and he died a pauper. He died with very little money. They took the hotel down and they made ships out of it for World War II.

0:11:51 - (Paul Conrady): They melted it down and that pretty much went away. Well, remember we talked about decompression sickness. So imagine that you get into what they were finding was, what if we replace nitrogen or ambient air with 100% oxygen. So around the 30s, they started with hyperbaric oxygen, and they have now eliminated decompression sickness. And the, the powers to be, we were still trying to get their hands on God's medicine.

0:12:24 - (Paul Conrady): God has the patent on oxygen, air and pressure, and a whole lot of.

0:12:29 - (Josh Bellieu): Plants too, as we well know here at Ultra Botanic.

0:12:32 - (Paul Conrady): And they couldn't get their hands on it. Right, right. So what they did, they built a.

0:12:37 - (Josh Bellieu): Regulatory environment around it didn't.

0:12:39 - (Paul Conrady): So tell us about that. As they were studying oxygen in the mid-30s, the Navy is the one that kind of started up with the study of oxygen, and they used it for decompression sickness to keep from having it. 1968, the powers to be made oxygen a drug. So now you have to go get a prescription for oxygen, and it's highly regulated. Our industry, our hyperbaric oxygen industry is highly regulated.

0:13:09 - (Josh Bellieu): And yet administering oxygen and hyperbaric are so vastly different.

0:13:16 - (Paul Conrady): Well, but imagine that you're. You're putting oxygen into a pressurized environment.

0:13:22 - (Josh Bellieu): Oay.

0:13:22 - (Paul Conrady): Now what are you creating?

0:13:24 - (Josh Bellieu): Yeah. All right.

0:13:26 - (Paul Conrady): A bomb.

0:13:27 - (Josh Bellieu): Oh, well, yeah, that's True. Yeah. I have been in a hyperb chamber and when I hear that glass make that noise as it's contracting with the metal that is keeping that thing together, I must admit I've had a mild bit of nervousness once or twice when I've done that.

0:13:44 - (Paul Conrady): Well for all those reasons it is highly regulated at that end of the spectrum because it has to be a safety deal. So anyway that's where but that's where it really went south. And hyperbarics has been very expensive to so when regulc oxygen has been expensive to treatment.

0:14:02 - (Josh Bellieu): So and I'm assuming was it the FDA that kind of put the regulations right that yes. When they did that at that point in time. Who actually ever used hyperbaric oxygen and what did they use it for?

0:14:14 - (Paul Conrady): Well, thermal burns, CO poisoning, the necrosis of the mandular. After you have radiation treatment of your neck or jaw, the top part of, you know, your head area necrosis, tissue necrosis happens. And so you can repair that with hyperbaric oxygen. So there's at the time in the early it wasn't until 19 and I don't know exactly what year but the late 1900s I believe and Dr. Duncan, Dr. Bill Duncan's the one that got it approved. He was an appropriator for is took that's his background in Washington.

0:14:52 - (Paul Conrady): So he was very instrumental in getting diabetic foot ulcers covered by Medicare as a recognized indication.

0:15:01 - (Josh Bellieu): Okay. Yeah. And we'boy we're going to move a little bit into that world as well. So I want to tell everyone how they can reach out to Paul Conradty. Really great guy. We're going to blow your minds as we move into further segments here. Hyperbaricfitness ok.com. hyperbaric. If you just try to spell the word hyperbaric Fitness H Y P E R B A R I c fitness ok.com. you can actually email Paul because it's the same URL paul@hyperbaricfitnessokk.com

0:15:39 - (Josh Bellieu): and they've also got a 501 C3 associated with that called Hyperbarics for Heroes. We'll talk about that in the next segment as well. This is Ultra Life Today. I'm Josh Bell. You kind of pinch hitting here because my dear buddy Adam Payne is not with us today. So we'll be right back.

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0:16:28 - (Josh Bellieu): Welcome back to Ultra Life Today. And our special guest today is a guy named Paul Conradty. And again, someone I've wanted to meet for a long time. So privileged to do the interview. A gentleman that is helping a lot of people. What in the world would scuba diving have to do with helping individuals with their health? Well, it's not really scuba diving. It's called a hyperbaric oxygen. And we've got Paul Conrady in studio from Hyperbaric Fitness. Okay, that's hyperbaricfitnessokk.com and you can reach him, Paul, at Hyperbaric Fitness.

0:17:03 - (Josh Bellieu): Okay. Sometimes they even bring people in and actually allow them to have a first visit free. They do discounts, I believe, possibly for veterans, possibly other people. We'll get into some of that in the particulars. But you brought up something that's really interesting to me now. You seem pretty well read. Has there been many studies related to hyperbaric oxygen? I know, like when Adam and I talk about curcumin and we talk about ##med, this government repository for clinical research.

0:17:37 - (Josh Bellieu): You can type in curcumin and over 20,000 research articles come up. I'm getting a feeling there's probably quite a few studies on hyperbaric, isn't there?

0:17:47 - (Paul Conrady): Yeah.

0:17:48 - (Josh Bellieu): And why have they done certain studies for hyperbaric oxygen?

0:17:51 - (Paul Conrady): There is. So I've got to clarify something that you said of.

0:17:54 - (Josh Bellieu): And I know, hyperbaric air. You're wanting me to make a distinction, are't you?

0:17:57 - (Paul Conrady): Wellyperbaric oxygen is. Is. There's a lot of criteria around that. Safety wise, doctor wise, prescription wise. I mean, so when we had a guy come in that is post cancer, he had bladder cancer surgery, they put him on the table and he was inverted for two and a half times longer than they anticipated. And he woke up blindh myd pressure on the optic nerve. Wow. Had he come in that week or that day, he may have got some of his sight back.

0:18:31 - (Paul Conrady): But a year later, he comes into my office with a friend. And this friend says, got. I got a guy out in New Hampshire that does hyperbarics and I want my friend here to do that to fix his eyes. And I said, he gave me the. I said, you know, this is going to be a stretch, but to save you a trip to New Hampshire, I'd love to talk to your guy out there. And we'll replicate it here and see if we can get something out so they Gave me this number. I get on the phone with him, we talk for an hour and talk about hyperbarics. I mean, it just.

0:19:02 - (Paul Conrady): So at the end of that hour, I said, hey, we're going to get this guy going. And he said, hey, full disclosure. I'm like, okay, go ahead. He goes, I don't use oxygen. And I said, now at this time, I'm the secretary of the International Hyperbaric Medical Foundation. We had had this come up in board meetings. And when hyperbaric air came up, it was like, look guys, our whole industry is finally getting where we want to be with hyperbaric oxygen.

0:19:30 - (Paul Conrady): Why would we step back to 16, 7?

0:19:34 - (Josh Bellieu): You know, words are important things, aren't they? Especially as it relates to regulatory bodies, Alphabet agencies that are out there. Right?

0:19:41 - (Paul Conrady): So when he told me that, and you know, most people in my industry, that would have been a hang up, but, you know, okay, we're done.

0:19:48 - (Josh Bellieu): Right?

0:19:48 - (Paul Conrady): Well, I said, hey, I have some insight to this. Let's keep talking. I said, I'll call you next week. So over the course of six months, we talked about an hour every week about hyperbarics. Okay, okay, now hyperbaric air, right? So just trading his stories and my stories and oxygen were exact. The number of dyes, the type of, you know, the type of issues we're dealing with, they were, they were just the same.

0:20:16 - (Paul Conrady): So we started diving. See, that's a cush jar at my office, right? We did hyperbaric sessions for this gentleman and started moving that I had. So we did him at that protocol and we never moved the needle on his site. His bladder numbers all rebounded big time and surprised the doctors.

0:20:41 - (Josh Bellieu): Astonishing. And we're just letting people that are viewing us and listening to us today know there are no promises. There is no something where we are going to do this for you when you come in. This is not a treatment again. This is being placed in this awesome environment where you can take a great nap. You might pop your ears a couple of times. But it's called hyperbaric air. And there's so much more that you don't know about it as it relates to individuals with post traumatic stress disorder with various types of traumas in their life.

0:21:14 - (Josh Bellieu): Even that I guess these days would be lumped into ptsd. We're going to talk about things related to individuals suffering from diabetes and things that have happened there. So. So back to this idea of studies. Have you read some studies on hyperbaric?

0:21:32 - (Paul Conrady): There's tremendous amount of information on hyperbaric oxygenk. You can Anything that you're dealing with, if it's a autism calm HBO O t. Okay? You'll get thousands of ye.

0:21:46 - (Josh Bellieu): So I want our viewers to know. So if you want to get on PubMed, and that's P U ed.gov.gov, type in HBO, which stands for hyperbaric oxygen therapy, and then type in any particular malady that you might be thinking of, whether it might be an autoimmune disorder thing, and see what kind of studies come up. Do your homework. Because if you're out there viewing this now and you're thinking, I wonder if hyperbaric oxygen could help me.

0:22:16 - (Josh Bellieu): Do your own homework. Type in HBO O t and then. And the word and. And then whatever you may be wanting to Google on that and see what happens.

0:22:26 - (Paul Conrady): Okay, so again, clarification. You're notnna find anything on HB at, which is hyperbaric atmosphere or air, whatever. Or air for short. You're notnna find anything on that because that was back in.

0:22:43 - (Josh Bellieu): Right. Because the oxygen falls underneath the FDA guideline as an actual term that they pretty much have built this regulatory environment around.

0:22:51 - (Paul Conrady): Now, when I say that we have studies where they did study scuba diving and the release of stem cells, and they identified the depth in the protocol that if I go scuba diving at this depth, this stem cell activation is 300% more.

0:23:08 - (Josh Bellieu): Okay, you, you've got everybody out there that watches us that is interested in anti aging and regenerative medicine, turning back their biological clock, all these things. That's why they take our supplements. That's why they go to these integrative and functional doctors out there that are not just in the place of wanting to cut or wanting to prescribe. They're wanting to get to the root problem. So you just said something about stem cells. Now I want you to say that again and make it really simple so people can understand what happens when a person is in a hyperbaric air environment. What are some of the things that begin to happen in the body that are positive things?

0:23:50 - (Paul Conrady): So again, I'm not a doctor.

0:23:52 - (Josh Bellieu): Right.

0:23:52 - (Paul Conrady): And we talked about this as a discusseractly.

0:23:55 - (Josh Bellieu): Exactly.

0:23:56 - (Paul Conrady): The only thing that I do is observe people that go scuba diving.

0:23:59 - (Josh Bellieu): Right.

0:24:00 - (Paul Conrady): So if I've got. I love to find things to measure. I'love to find today one of the big things that nobody talks about. Are you familiar with the burn pits?

0:24:10 - (Josh Bellieu): No.

0:24:10 - (Paul Conrady): Okay, well, the burn pits are. The veterans are familiar with it because when they were in Afghanistan, everything on that base was burned, so it didn't have to be removed. By vehicle.

0:24:21 - (Josh Bellieu): Oh, wow.

0:24:21 - (Paul Conrady): So they drove bulldozers around, you know, five acre pits constantly. All fires, batteries, cars, vehicles, human pieces, Everything that they're moving around to burn complete. Well, that plume of smoke goes up and whichever way the wind's blowing. So many of my veterans that come in tell me about having to put wet towels in the doors of their sleeping quarters.

0:24:46 - (Josh Bellieu): Wow.

0:24:47 - (Paul Conrady): And their soot everywhere. I mean they may have it there. So it's not airborne, but every time they move in their sleeping quarter.

0:24:54 - (Josh Bellieu): So how did you see these burn pits affecting these guys?

0:24:57 - (Paul Conrady): And some ladies, there's esophageal cancers that they've never seen there. Crazy. I mean, it's the agent orange of today. That's what we're dealing with. And it's not being spoken.

0:25:11 - (Josh Bellieu): Very few. I had not heard the term.

0:25:14 - (Paul Conrady): Yeah, so. So we use a peak flow meter. First time a veteran comes in bl what it's doing is it's measuring lung capacity O and how fast you can exhale your, your air. And so it's moving a needle. And it's just crazy after X number of dives how far that needle moves.

0:25:32 - (Josh Bellieu): And out of curiosity because I know for me that kind of visual, if I came into your place, I was dealing with this aftermath of this burn pit exposure and I breathed into that and then I was back maybe on my second or third visit and I'm showing a completely different lung capacity. I would be absolutely hooked. O and how quickly do you notice things?

0:25:56 - (Paul Conrady): So I have a guy comes in from church and again, I'm just telling people what I see.

0:26:01 - (Josh Bellieu): Yeah, this is an observation'just.

0:26:03 - (Paul Conrady): An observation, but I use all the tools that I can get my hands on.

0:26:06 - (Josh Bellieu): Fantastic.

0:26:07 - (Paul Conrady): So a guy at church had had Covid. He was in the hospital. I hope I'm, I think 57 days. So he gets out of the hospital, then he has to go to rehab. Okay. He had a 1 inch hole in his lung. I don't see him for four more months before he comes to church and he's dragging an oxygen bottle. And I'm like, dude, I had no idea. I don't call people. But you know what I do. And I expected a call. And he goes, I don't have any money.

0:26:36 - (Paul Conrady): And I said, so what's the prognosis? And he said, I'm supposed to be on oxygen. If I can wing myself off, it's going to take a year.

0:26:45 - (Josh Bellieu): And we know it's a huge struggle once a person gets on oxygen and lying on.

0:26:50 - (Paul Conrady): I said, I said, do you understand how fast you've got to get off of oxygen? This is critical. You've already been on it for four months that I didn't know about. You got to get off this oxygen. So anyway, he goes, I said, be at the chamber tomorrow. I said, can you be off oxygen for. For 10 minutes? And he goes, I said, five minutes? Yeah, probably. And I said, okay, be at the chamber, because when we get the pressure up in the chamber, you don't need oxygen.

0:27:20 - (Paul Conrady): Yeah, you're getting aw.

0:27:21 - (Josh Bellieu): There you go. Exactly.

0:27:22 - (Paul Conrady): So he comes in. I said, blowing this. He blew in the peak flow meter. He blew a 200. Okay, that's enoughhing. I mean, you and I, that's hardly.

0:27:30 - (Josh Bellieu): Now, that's just ultra diminished lung capacity, right?

0:27:34 - (Paul Conrady): I blow a 600 when I'm normal.

0:27:36 - (Josh Bellieu): Oh, wow. So I just costal breathing.

0:27:38 - (Paul Conrady): So all these people with post Covid issues that come in, they don't have any breath. Even. Even if they tell me I got all my breath back, I go, here's a peak flow meter. You're go going toa buy it? It's 30 bucks. There's an app on your phone where you put the data. It creates a line chart, and I'm gonna watch. I just show them mine. When I had Covid, mine went from 390 to 600 in four sessions.

0:28:01 - (Josh Bellieu): Impressive.

0:28:02 - (Paul Conrady): Okay. So I show him mine, and I say, this is why we do this, right? So he comes in, blows at 200, gets out of the chamber an hour later and blows the 300.

0:28:10 - (Josh Bellieu): Oh, my.

0:28:11 - (Paul Conrady): Okay. And I said, you're not done. He goes, what are you talking about? I said, tonight. I said, we've just released stem cells. They're going around your body on a search and rescue mission. They're being drawn to infl inflammation.

0:28:27 - (Josh Bellieu): So oxygenating the blood. We talked about this off air today.

0:28:32 - (Paul Conrady): Okay?

0:28:32 - (Josh Bellieu): Now let's blood brain barrier things. Want. I want to get into this, and I want to distinction fortion me.

0:28:39 - (Paul Conrady): We're going to 52ft of seawater, which is 2.5 atmospheres, which means we've increased the atmospheric pressure 2.5 times. Okay, if oxygen is 21%. 20.9. If oxygen is 21%, and we're going to 2 a half atmospheres. What's your gazenta? Do you know what gazentas are?

0:29:03 - (Josh Bellieu): I do. Jetro bodine off of The Beverly Hillbill.

0:29:06 - (Paul Conrady): 52%.

0:29:07 - (Josh Bellieu): Nice.

0:29:08 - (Paul Conrady): So even though we haven't used any supplemental oxygen, it's incredible. We're at 52% oxygen.

0:29:13 - (Josh Bellieu): This is a phenomenal time for us to set up for the next segment and talk a little bit more about this, about stem cells, about hyperbaric air and what it can do for you. You can reach out to Paul Conrady. There's a website, hyperbaricfitness ok.com hyperbaricfitness ok.Com and then you can reach out to Paul personally. His email address is the same as the URL, but it's got Paul in front of it. Paul hyperbaricfitnessokk.comt Paul at hyperbaricfitness ok.com. this is ultral life today, hanging out with my good friend Paul Conradty.

0:29:50 - (Josh Bellieu): And we'll be right back.