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The Miracle Chamber: Real Stories of Healing with Hyperbaric Therapy

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In this powerful episode of Ultra Life Today, we sit down with Paul Conrady of Hyperbaric Fitness to explore how hyperbaric oxygen therapy is helping people regain lung function, accelerate healing, and improve quality of life — from post-COVID recovery to veterans with PTSD and chronic wounds.

You’ll hear incredible real-life stories — like a man going from dragging an oxygen tank to breathing freely, veterans finding peace after trauma, and diabetic foot ulcers reversing before amputation.

Whether you’re curious about stem cell activation, brain injury recovery, or natural healing alternatives, this episode will open your eyes to the science and hope behind the “miracle chamber.”

Listen to the full episode now or watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/yd6vObCw09M

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0:00:00 - (Paul Conrady): This is what happened. She walks in the front door on a Saturday. Her husband had dove probably 30 times at this point. And she walks in and she's just standing inside looking in at the chamber in the room and the other clients that are in there. And I looked over and I said, so you're Mrs. T. She goes, you're the missus? And she goes, yeah. And her husband's standing next to her. And I said, so what's going on? And she said, I just had to see this place, you know, that. She goes, I'm just in awe.

0:00:29 - (Josh Bellieu): The miracle chamber.

0:00:29 - (Paul Conrady): And I said, so do you notice something different with your husband? Is that why you say that? And she just started crying.

0:00:37 - (Josh Bellieu): O wow.

0:00:39 - (Paul Conrady): Those are the stories that I got so many of. And it'that's why I get up every morning. It's fun to go in and change people's lives.

0:00:59 - (Josh Bellieu): Hey, welcome back to ultraife Today, talking with a new friend to me, but someone I've heard of for years, Paul Conrady right here in Oklahoma City, quietly observing individuals that are going on a scuba dive in a what's called a hyperbaric air environment. And when that happens, magic happens. We've talked about things such as stem cell activation, we've talked about the history of hyperbaric air. We've talked about the fact that hyperbaric oxygen is a term that's kind of unfriendly because the FDA has built a regulatory environment around that.

0:01:37 - (Josh Bellieu): So consequently we call it hyperbaric air. You'll hear us say that we make no claims for anything because Paul has this beautiful opportunity. He uses certain tools. We'll talk about that in a minute, like measuring people's lung capacity. But we had a three year crisis happen called a pandemic and individuals have had real difficulty breathing that have had Covid, many that haven't even had the vaccine but had a big bout with COVID So I with all that said, we were talking last week on our segment with Paul about a friend of his that showed up at church dragging around an oxygen tank with him one day. And so Paul, welcome back again. This is so fascinating for me, I wanted to talk to you forever.

0:02:22 - (Josh Bellieu): We need to let all of our integrative doctors know. We need to let our compounding pharmacists, our clinical nutritionists, we need to get the word out and integrative. If you're watching this broadcast and you know people around the metro area here or even in other states, people come from all over the country to spend time with Paul Conrady@hyperbaricfitness.ok.com. do you can find out all about it there or Paul@HyperbaricFitness. Okay Paul, welcome back. For this third segment we're going to have a lot of fun, but you are enlightening me to individuals that have diminished lung capacity, you use a little tool. What did you say that's called?

0:02:59 - (Paul Conrady): Peak flow meter.

0:03:00 - (Josh Bellieu): A peak flow meter, Asmatic chees. They breathe into it. Right. And it basically tells you what level their lung capacity is at. Okay, remind us again and catch us back up. This friend yours or this guy you go to church with, you saw him with oxygen, you coax him to come out.

0:03:15 - (Paul Conrady): What happened before he got in the chamber? He blew a 200.

0:03:19 - (Josh Bellieu): That's very low.

0:03:20 - (Paul Conrady): That's very lowk. So we did a one hour session and when he came out he blew a 300.

0:03:26 - (Josh Bellieu): Amazing.

0:03:26 - (Paul Conrady): And then I said, hey, so we've just released the pressure of hyperbarics has released stem cells in your body. Okay.

0:03:36 - (Josh Bellieu): So that is just, it's a given, right?

0:03:38 - (Paul Conrady): That's what you take.

0:03:39 - (Josh Bellieu): Somebody die telling us 300%. So yeah. So all you anti aging regenerative people out there, when you go to pubmed.gov, type in H as in Harry, B as in boy, O as in only, T as in Tom, H bot. And in the type in stem cell, see what you find. Thanks for that.

0:03:56 - (Paul Conrady): There's a ton of information. So anyway, we do the. I said now we've released stem cells throughout your body. So tonight before you go to bed, I want you to blow on the peak flow meter again. And he looked at me like I was crazy. And I said dude, why are you here? I'm telling you what to do. So that night he sent me a picture of his peak flow meter at 350.

0:04:18 - (Josh Bellieu): Oh nice.

0:04:19 - (Paul Conrady): So in one day, in 12, in a few hours. 12 hours.

0:04:23 - (Josh Bellieu): Oay. Half a day. Yeah.

0:04:24 - (Paul Conrady): In 12 hours he went from 200 to 300. So 350.

0:04:28 - (Josh Bellieu): So is there a continuation to this? Because the goal was yeah, you don't want to be on oxygen a long time.

0:04:35 - (Paul Conrady): Yeah. So 10 days later he, the oxygen company came, picked up all of his oxygen. He's off oxygen. He lost his job. Okay. Because I mean he can't, he can't pull oxygen bottle around him. The job he did.

0:04:49 - (Josh Bellieu): Wow.

0:04:50 - (Paul Conrady): So two months later he got his old job back.

0:04:54 - (Josh Bellieu): Oh fantastic. Now I'm curious.

0:04:56 - (Paul Conrady): And he was expecting to not ever work again.

0:04:59 - (Josh Bellieu): Now with someone like that. What do you want to see with a peak flow Meter. And what is possible for someone? Let's say they come in for three weeks. Let's say they do two dives a week. So they've had six treatments, or should I say six experiences? How's that? Six hyperbaric E experience sessions. There you go. What have you seen someone that's like down at a 200 on a peak flow meter? What could happen after six sessions? Where might they be?

0:05:27 - (Paul Conrady): Somet wellimes, everybody's different. That's hard, you know, Doctor'not going to say, hey, iny days I'm going to get youactly. So they don't do that, and I don't either.

0:05:35 - (Josh Bellieu): But observations you've seen as a.

0:05:37 - (Paul Conrady): He came in for 37 sessions and got up to 550. Plateaued. When he plateaued, we knew he wasn't gonna get any more than that, and that's when we called it down.

0:05:50 - (Josh Bellieu): Oay now, out of curiosity, because 37 sessions, that's a lot of sessions. Did he have any other mitigating health challenges that in your observation, you saw things changing? Obviously, a person with diminished oxygen capacity, fatigue, probably trouble sleeping, all the above.

0:06:11 - (Paul Conrady): I mean, he had lots of issues. And the reason I'm so excited about working with you guys is what does joint pain relief? I mean, we already provide joint pain relief. Just doing hyperbaric.

0:06:24 - (Josh Bellieu): Well, if you're stimulating stem cells, yes. You're having a lot of.

0:06:29 - (Paul Conrady): So what if we incorporate? I always use the term one in one equaling three.

0:06:34 - (Josh Bellieu): Yeah. I want synergistic healing, and that's a real thing.

0:06:39 - (Paul Conrady): And so how fast can we accelerate this whole healing period?

0:06:44 - (Josh Bellieu): Yep.

0:06:44 - (Paul Conrady): So that's why I'm anxious to be involved with your product, telling my clients about it. That's where I'm headed.

0:06:52 - (Josh Bellieu): On a little side note, because you may or may not, I had several sessions of hyperbaric air over in Bethany many, many, many months ago. The reason I went in H oxygen.

0:07:06 - (Paul Conrady): Let's not get people confused.

0:07:07 - (Josh Bellieu): Okay.

0:07:08 - (Paul Conrady): H hyperbaric oxygen.

0:07:09 - (Josh Bellieu): There we go. So I went in because I had actually been exposed to mold and I had an issue with a lung, and it just made sense to me. Was I on the right track? Because I ablutely say this. I'm so much better.

0:07:23 - (Paul Conrady): Oh, yeah, absolutely. Anyime that you have any kind of toxicity. In fact, so much so that we have to go over with our clients that in two to four sessions, it's not going to be unusual to have a pretty good Herkhimema reflex.

0:07:37 - (Josh Bellieu): O did you experience, for those of you that may have not heard that term herzheimer reaction equals detoxification. It can be loose stools, it can be nervousness, it can be anxiety, flu like symptoms, flu like symptoms, fever, things like that. It can be fatigue, you know, it can be brain fog. And that's what I call a healing crisis. Because if you're moving through a detoxification, if you're moving through and having a herzheimer reaction, your body is trying to shed and get rid of things that have been oppressive to your health.

0:08:13 - (Paul Conrady): So can I explain that a little bit?

0:08:16 - (Josh Bellieu): Absolutely.

0:08:17 - (Paul Conrady): This is how I relate it to my clients when they're in that situation. We don't want to throw on the brakes.

0:08:22 - (Josh Bellieu): Yeah, but you don't want to take them over the cliff either, right?

0:08:25 - (Paul Conrady): We want to take our foot off the accelerator. We want to wait until their health returns to normal. The flu likes it all the above. And usually in a day, you know, it's not like they have to wait two weeks, but we want them to be normal again before they get back in. Because what you're doing is you're overtaxing the liver.

0:08:42 - (Josh Bellieu): Right.

0:08:43 - (Paul Conrady): We don't want to damage the liver. That's where all these pathogens are being sent to be released. And if you bombard it too heavily, you can. That can be a bad thing.

0:08:53 - (Josh Bellieu): Yeah. No different than when a oncologist is doing chemotherapy to someone. It creates this die off. And there can actually be what's called tumor lysing syndrome because the liver has been overloaded from the die off. And it, you know, back in the early days, it was kind of like we're hoping to be able to kill the cancer before we kill the person because this fine balance that exists there. So, okay, this is awesome. Increased oxygen capacity. Individuals may be suffering from post Covid aftershock. Whether they were vaccinated, whether they weren't, we know that that particular strain of virus really creates some problems with people. It really does. So what gets you up out of bed every day, Paul, when you go down there and do this? And by the way, how many years now, and just off the top of your head, how many people have you taken taken on a dive?

0:09:49 - (Paul Conrady): No, no ideab. You keep saying thousands. You keep saying you're not really understanding what we do.

0:09:55 - (Josh Bellieu): Okay, well, let's keep talking about it.

0:09:57 - (Paul Conrady): We have a chamber right now at our location that holds 12 people.

0:10:01 - (Josh Bellieu): Oh my God.

0:10:02 - (Paul Conrady): We have 16 people in there. Often.

0:10:04 - (Josh Bellieu): When you mentioned the hotel story on our last segment, I thought, why don't they Build some of these things big enough to house a trooe of people.

0:10:12 - (Paul Conrady): Yeah.

0:10:13 - (Josh Bellieu): So they're starting to do that.

0:10:14 - (Paul Conrady): Yeah. So we're relocating because of growth. We're moving to 1 22nd in May.

0:10:18 - (Josh Bellieu): Okay.

0:10:19 - (Paul Conrady): I've got OSU's old research chamber out of the Jinx Airport. 30 foot long.

0:10:25 - (Josh Bellieu): Amazing.

0:10:26 - (Paul Conrady): It'll hold, you know, on the same criteria we're talking about. It'll hold 20 people, but, you know, 30 people can get in there. It's huge. It's 30ft long, the one we have right now.

0:10:36 - (Josh Bellieu): So people understand. So let's get practical.

0:10:38 - (Paul Conrady): Looks like a submarine.

0:10:39 - (Josh Bellieu): You. When I did my hyperbaric stuff, I actually changed into what people might call the. The what? You see the surgeon walk in the room. Yeah. You see the nurse walk in the room. They're wearing scrubs. I changed into that. Super comfortable. It was interesting because I had two different people that gave me my session. One moved me pretty quick and I had to pop my ears quite a bit. You know, swallow and kind of pop my ears.

0:11:07 - (Josh Bellieu): The other person, I never even noticed needing to pop my ears, and I said, what's the difference? They said, well, I do it a little bit different than the other person. Take a little bit longer to get you there. So.

0:11:18 - (Paul Conrady): So what our. When we get in the chamber, we get to depth in five minutes. We get to 52ft in five minutes. Typically, if you've dove a couple times, I got a newbie, you know.

0:11:28 - (Josh Bellieu): Now, are people reclining when there's a group type environment like that? Are partylining? Are they hanging out, talking to each other?

0:11:34 - (Paul Conrady): It's a party. Yeah. I mean, you won't believe all these people that are interested in natural healing. They're all sharing their stories of their journey. And everybody that comes in brings notepads and pen because of what they're gonna learn on that session.

0:11:51 - (Josh Bellieu): That's nice.

0:11:51 - (Paul Conrady): So, I mean, do you know what earthing is?

0:11:54 - (Josh Bellieu): I do. Oay do are you talking about grounding?

0:11:56 - (Paul Conrady): Yeaheah. Do you know what your feet know how many people in the chamber have never heard that? W you know how many lives that's changed? It's incredible. And they come back the next 25.

0:12:05 - (Josh Bellieu): 30 minutes a day.

0:12:06 - (Paul Conrady): Oh yeah.

0:12:07 - (Josh Bellieu): They come back the next terra firma with your baref.

0:12:09 - (Paul Conrady): I can tell you stories just on earthing has nothing to do with hyperbarics that solved issues with people.

0:12:14 - (Josh Bellieu): Oh, yeah. I.

0:12:15 - (Paul Conrady): If we didn't have the opportunity to have that group therapy, if you want.

0:12:19 - (Josh Bellieu): To call us something fantastic.

0:12:20 - (Paul Conrady): Oh, it's insane. I mean, that's what's so fun. So you say, what is it about getting up to go do this? It's what am I going to learn today?

0:12:29 - (Josh Bellieu): Yeah.

0:12:29 - (Paul Conrady): When I invited Adam to come and dive with us, I was like, that came through Gwene. And I knew I was going to learn. And now you guys have opened up a Pandora's box of knowledge that I'm trying to share now with my clients and to come and get in the chamber and share your knowledge.

0:12:48 - (Josh Bellieu): Yeah. Well, fasten your seat better.

0:12:49 - (Paul Conrady): You're sharing it with everybody.

0:12:51 - (Josh Bellieu): Anytime you're hanging out with Adam Payne, you are going to get this incredible, interesting world of pharma mixed with nutraceutical and the science behind all this stuff. And it's.

0:13:02 - (Paul Conrady): Oh, it's an eye open.

0:13:04 - (Josh Bellieu): Thrillinguff. So we've got about three minutes left in this segment. Two and a half, three minutes left. So near and dear to most of our hearts. You know, my dad was in World War II. My mom was the very first women's Air force squadron commander in Tokyo, Japan. That's awesome. And my mom used to say to me when I was younger, and then when I was older, taking care of her before she passed away, when I would be leaving her house, she'd say, you make sure you learn something new today, son.

0:13:33 - (Josh Bellieu): Every day, you need to learn something new. And then when I'd see her in the evening fixing her dinner, doing things for her, she'd say, okay. And she mett it. She looked me in the eye and saying, now tell me what you learned today. And she'd wait for me to tell her what I'd learned today. And it's a beautiful practice to have, but you're helping individuals out that have served in the armed forces. Now, you and I had.

0:13:55 - (Josh Bellieu): And I want to get into this. This is so important. A lot of people that know a little bit about hyperbaric oxygen sessions, they're thinking, well, yeah, I've heard it's the opposite of the country song. The individual that served in the Middle east and they had an IED blow up near them. They had a traumatic brain injury. And so, you know, they. If it's a man or a woman, they lost their spouse, they lost their dog, they started getting angry at their family. They couldn't relate to their kids, they lose their job. They become unproductive, they get depressed.

0:14:29 - (Josh Bellieu): What you guys do is you reverse the country song, right? And tell us a little bit about veterans and their interaction, how you guys have reached out to the veteran community and some of the things you see from individuals because I want to make a distinction. You attended and this is going to be a cliffhanger here, you attended a conference where you were speaking with ladies that had been in the armed forces.

0:14:54 - (Josh Bellieu): And you asked them how many knew about hyperbaric oxygen. And nobody knew anything about.

0:15:00 - (Paul Conrady): There was a hundred.

0:15:01 - (Josh Bellieu): But then you asked a very pivotal question about PTSD trauma. We're going to get to that in a minute. Tell us about what you see with people that have had a bomb expl explode near them. What is going on with them when they come see you and why does hyperbaric oxygen help?

0:15:19 - (Paul Conrady): Well, just training with today's modern ordinances. If you ever. You see all the videos of the atom bomb, you see this concussion and then you see a vacuum.

0:15:29 - (Josh Bellieu): Right, right, right.

0:15:31 - (Paul Conrady): The vacuum like is like decompression sickness creates bubbles in your blood.

0:15:36 - (Josh Bellieu): Oh wow.

0:15:37 - (Paul Conrady): Just the vacuum. So you have this concussion which injures your brain and then you have this vacuum.

0:15:43 - (Josh Bellieu): So imagine's insult to injury isn't.

0:15:45 - (Paul Conrady): Imagine that you're around that for forever. You know what's really that I never knew about until the last six months. And I've been doing this for 12 years. I had two guys come in. One's a navy and one's a coast guard. Never thought about it. Both of them were on hundred foot boats. One of them was special ops. Wasn't a seal, he was a special off swift boat. Oay you know what those guys go through on those boats.

0:16:10 - (Josh Bellieu): Okay, this is a great time for us to pause. We're coming back to another segment. You're going toa have to get back for this one. I'm Josh Bel you. This is Ultral Life. Today we're talking to Paul Conrady. Hyperbaricfitness ok.com hyperbaricfitness ok.com. you can reach out to Paul personally by email. Paul@hyperbaricfitness ok.com. this is Ultralife Today we're going to be right back with the end of this cliffhanger story that Paul's getting revved up about and what he learned.

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0:17:16 - (Josh Bellieu): Welcome back to Ultra Life. Today hanging out with Paul Conrady. This is our last segment. Paul Conrady of hyperbaricfitness o dot com. Has your appetite been whetted yet? We're talking about ptsd. We're talking about what Paul has observed the effects of individuals and he just told us so. The setup again is he just mentioned in the last segment what happens to an individual when something explodes near them. There's a vacuum created. So you not only have a concussion now, Paul, you've also got air bubbles in the body.

0:17:53 - (Josh Bellieu): And it's a perfect storm for a really bad life, isn't it?

0:17:57 - (Paul Conrady): Well, that can be. I mean, obviously that can be. And I don't want to get hung up on the air bubbles, but that's what's happening at some level when you're around those ordinances, it just makes sense. You feel the vacuum.

0:18:10 - (Josh Bellieu): And you mentioned something too, just in training exercises. There's the potential for some of this same stuff to happen, isn't there?

0:18:18 - (Paul Conrady): I saw a video on YouTube I was going through. We all cruise YouTube. Right. Well, he was an instructor for the military and in training they were doing door breaches. Well, he's always standing on the inside of these door breaches, which not only create this huge shockwave that he's standing on the other side of the door, but now he's breathing in all the things they just used to blow the door up because it's a non ventilated area.

0:18:44 - (Josh Bellieu): Wow.

0:18:46 - (Paul Conrady): And I mean, his life was in. And I'm just watching this on YouTube and he's talking about his life's in the toilet. I mean, he's really, really struggling.

0:18:54 - (Josh Bellieu): Wow. You. If you haven't taken a little bit of time recently to pray for veterans and everything they go through. My goodness, I'm learning so much today, Paul. So again, people are showing up with what was a traumatic brain injury that they may be. They may have even been told because they've been in a veterans hospital that hey, we've done what we can do, right? And then you guys, they leave with.

0:19:19 - (Paul Conrady): A bag of drugs.

0:19:20 - (Josh Bellieu): Okay.

0:19:22 - (Paul Conrady): It's medications. Yeah, medications to do this and medications to reverse that and then to do.

0:19:27 - (Josh Bellieu): That, to deal with the sides and on and on and I mean, it's.

0:19:29 - (Paul Conrady): Just incredible amount of pharmaceuticals.

0:19:32 - (Josh Bellieu): Okay, so did you. What?

0:19:33 - (Paul Conrady): So they're not healing or treating the.

0:19:35 - (Josh Bellieu): So Right. So you've led me into something. Individuals come to you. Do you witness resolution in the lives of individuals? And how does that change their work life, their home life?

0:19:48 - (Paul Conrady): How does it work the first time they walk out of the. Typically most veterans that are dealing with anxiety issues, which is all of. I mean Just about all of them, when they come out on their first session, they hold their hands up in front of their shoulders and they just push their hands down slowly and they go, this is what just happened to me.

0:20:10 - (Josh Bellieu): Oh, wow. It's just dialing it back.

0:20:14 - (Paul Conrady): Where does that come from?

0:20:15 - (Josh Bellieu): That's incredible.

0:20:16 - (Paul Conrady): Typerbariracks. That's what it'll do. I mean, that's how it reduces anxiety.

0:20:20 - (Josh Bellieu): You mentioned to me in our first conversation on the phone, you, when I mentioned ptsd, it was almost as if, I mean, it's almost like you had to keep from laughing because you just kind of casually said, I'm low hanging fruit. We deal with that all the time. You. What's next? Bring it on. This is just. It's like a magic equation. Hyperbaric oxygen, an individual going into being taken down. What you said two and a half atmospheres, right?

0:20:51 - (Josh Bellieu): It's doing. It's releasing stem cells and it's causing. Is there a residual brain injury that. I mean, can they look at this with some brain mapping devices and say an individual was this way? Can they prove that? Have they done some of those kinds of stu.

0:21:08 - (Paul Conrady): We have a natural path that we use up at our other clinic, our oxygen clinic. She has an office up there and she does what's called clearmines.

0:21:15 - (Josh Bellieu): Feel free to mention her name if you like.

0:21:17 - (Paul Conrady): That's Dr. Twya Wilson. Does clear minds. And so she does brain mapping, and so she can create that map and then she sends all this data to a college, an eastern college, and they do a prescription so they can analyze it in depth and then send her back a prescription where she can use the same cap that has the electrodes in it. A lot of people have seen those, but it's got electrodes all over a cap that kind of just fits over your head real tight.

0:21:49 - (Paul Conrady): It's actually attached to your scalp with electrode gel. Okay. So now she can actually do a therapy. And that's kind of a high level. I mean, the things she's doing with that are the same things to some extent, that happened in the chamber.

0:22:04 - (Josh Bellieu): Interest.

0:22:04 - (Paul Conrady): Okay. The only difference is in the chamber, you're addressing your entire skeletal wow. Whereas in her situation, you're addressing your head.

0:22:12 - (Josh Bellieu): Okay, so before we move on to the very important subject of diabetic foot ulcers, you were at this conference, I think you were sharing with a room on hyperparar oxygen. A group of ladies veterans had never heard of hyperbaric oxygen, but you mentioned ptsd. And then you. And you looked at me and you said, now where do you think that women end up with PTSD the most as it relates to the military? My heart sunk when you said that, Paul, because I had a feeling it was going to have to do with some kind of predatorial situation where they were traumatized through some form of sexual assault. And you confirmed that. Right.

0:22:54 - (Paul Conrady): Well, I heard that a great deal. I'll just kind of leave it at that's not uncommon.

0:22:59 - (Josh Bellieu): So what I want our viewers to realize, and so many of our integrative doctors are now learning about this, they're learning that trauma equals deteriorating health. Exactly. And you mentioned some things to me related to trauma. And then you mentioned A number of 52 years Talk about that for me.

0:23:18 - (Paul Conrady): So one of the women up there is a counselor and we got to talk at depth about all these issues. And she was a victim. And she was a victim at childhood. And she said, you know, Paul, what people don't understand is that when these things have happened at childhood, they have found that at an average of 52 years is when this presents.

0:23:41 - (Josh Bellieu): So isn't that fascinating? It's almost like as the body is aging and that trauma somehow just begins to emerge and create all kinds of problems, depressions, things like that, suicidal ideations and a difficulty to engage in life. Right.

0:23:57 - (Paul Conrady): It's just heartbreaking. I mean, that all this is going on and that nobody knows. I mean, there's a lot of drugs you can take, but those drugs just suppress it. They just pushing it back and you've got to get it out. And so there's some people that we're working with. There's a lot of studies. In fact, Oklahoma tried to pass a bill this last year to study veterans with PTSD using psilocybin as a method of getting them back.

0:24:28 - (Paul Conrady): And so I don't know where that ended up. I've not heard anything from anybody where that ended up. But I know there's a lot of interest in the psychology community, in the therapy community, of using that type of fixe. Know.

0:24:45 - (Josh Bellieu): Well, it's a therapeutic plant use plant.

0:24:49 - (Paul Conrady): Exactly. Bas I heard several people say that in one session that's four hours long, they accomplished five years of therapy.

0:24:58 - (Josh Bellieu): Yeah.

0:24:59 - (Paul Conrady): Now is that.

0:25:00 - (Josh Bellieu): And I know plenty of people that have been in therapy for longer than five years and they still haven't got resolution for what's going. I want to mention this. It's so important. This is Paul conrady of hyperbaricfitness o.com. it's super important that you hear what we just talked about. In the last two or three minutes, are you dealing with some level of emotional trauma that may have happened? Physical abuse, emotional abuse, sexual abuse.

0:25:24 - (Josh Bellieu): Guess what? Hyperbaric oxygen may be something that can facilitate some level of progression out of that. We're making no promises. We're not doctors here, but it's fascinating. And I bet they could probably go on pubmed and type in high HBOT and then also trauma and things like that and probably come up with a lot of stuff. So people come in with emotional issues and do you know some of those today, years later, and how are their lives?

0:25:57 - (Paul Conrady): So I'll just a real quick one that was so touching to me. And she wants to become involved with being a wife of a veteran. I'm trying to entice her to be leader of a.

0:26:11 - (Josh Bellieu): Now, is that an organization?

0:26:13 - (Paul Conrady): Not yet.

0:26:13 - (Josh Bellieu): You mentioned.

0:26:14 - (Paul Conrady): I mean, they're probably out there. I haven't found one. She doesn't know of one. But this is what happened. She walks in the front door on a Saturday. Her husband had dove probably 30 times at this point. And she walks in and she's just standing inside looking in at the chamber in the room and the other clients that are in there. And I looked over and I said, so you're Mrs. T. She goes, you're the Mrs. And she goes, yeah. And her husband's standing next to her. And I said, so what's going on? And she said, I just had to see this place, you know, that. She goes, I'm just in awe.

0:26:48 - (Josh Bellieu): The miracle chamber.

0:26:49 - (Paul Conrady): And I said, so do you notice something different with your husband? Is that why you say that? And she just started crying.

0:26:56 - (Josh Bellieu): O wow.

0:26:59 - (Paul Conrady): Those are the stories that I got so many of. And it'that's why I get up every morning. It's fun to go in and change people's lives.

0:27:08 - (Josh Bellieu): No kidding. We'll see. You know, we're kindred spirits. I'll tell you our core thing here. First time I interviewed Adam Payne about this amazing technology that they now have patents on and has been used with doctors all over the world, hundreds of thousands people now. I said, what are you? What's your vision? What's your mission for this company? He said, I want to help as many people engage with this product as possible because it creates transformative experiences for their health.

0:27:40 - (Josh Bellieu): And I'm like, that is one of the best mission statements ever. Short and sweet. Helping people. Getting the word out. We need to get the word out for you again. Hyperbaricfitness OK.com Paul@HyperbaricFitness okay. Dot com. Do you've mentioned some ancillary things to us. We, you and I and Adam were talking before the, the podcast today. You mentioned things about diabetic foot ulcers. Tell me about that. Because we have veterans and other individuals that have advanced diabetic situations.

0:28:14 - (Josh Bellieu): And as I know individuals have, you know, necrotic matter. They have flesh that's beginning to rot away. They end up being scheduled for an amputation. Tell me little bit about your experience with hyperbaric oxygen sessions and that.

0:28:29 - (Paul Conrady): Well, it's even air. So people come to me and they go, well, no, I got to have oxygen. And I'm like, no, you don't. I mean, I would have thought that too had I not gone off and started experimenting, if you want to call it that. I mean, sure, I go scuba diving, but all I'm doing is paying attention to what happens when you go scuba diving to 52ft. And so we've had three people that had orders to have toes amputated.

0:28:55 - (Paul Conrady): Okay. They did the chamber. I said, I said don't. I said, if you want to take care of your control of your health, give me a little time. This didn't happen overnight. All'we want to do is take pictures and see if you can reverse it. And if it starts healing, then why would you have it cut off?

0:29:13 - (Josh Bellieu): Right.

0:29:14 - (Paul Conrady): So.

0:29:14 - (Josh Bellieu): And the way these limbs look. So describe the way a limb looks. Because when a person begins to get some results, and we ve talked about this, it's fast. What is the change from what the skin looks like to as it begins to resolve?

0:29:28 - (Paul Conrady): Well, so what we're trying to work with the. If anybody has access to the Indian community, they probably deal with as much or more abute diabetes.

0:29:36 - (Josh Bellieu): A Native American myself.

0:29:38 - (Paul Conrady): And so as I ve. We need to talk because as I've talked to people about this, they've all had relatives that have had amputations.

0:29:44 - (Josh Bellieu): Wow.

0:29:45 - (Paul Conrady): So I'm getting ready on our site. You can go look at. There's a report that our industry did using VA numbers. Okay. And why I'm so adamant about amputations and stopping it and treating it with hyperbarics is in the diabetic foot ulcers with veterans. 70% of the veterans that have an amputation are dead in three years because they've never dealt with the infection. They're clipping the toe that's presenting as being rotted.

0:30:19 - (Paul Conrady): They're clipping that toe, but they're never pushing back on the infection that goes to the next toe to the of it so it's just a matter of one toe at a time. Front of the foot, below the ankle, below the knee and the femur. And that's what happens on all of them because they never stop the infection.

0:30:36 - (Josh Bellieu): And they you begin to see in just a couple of dives you begin to see what people black and blue going into pink.

0:30:46 - (Paul Conrady): People need to understand when you have discoloration of a lower limb that is the road to a bad situation. So when you see the discoloration, you go straight to a hyperbaric chamber and restore that to pink.

0:31:02 - (Josh Bellieu): Okay. Well, you can tell this is ultra life today. By the way, I'm Josh Bel. You sitting here with Paul Conrady of Hyperbaric Fitness do obviously we are going to have to have him back because this guy could share more and more stories. We didn't even really get to talk about Hyperbariracks for Heroes. Can they look that up as well? That's your 5013 Hyperbaricks for Heroes. They can arrange discounts for certain members of the community based on certain criteria.

0:31:31 - (Josh Bellieu): You need to reach out to Paul conrady@hyperbaricfitnessok.com or emailing Paul hyperbaricfitnessok.com Again, this is ultra Life today. I'm Josh Bel, you Paul Conrady of hyperbaricfitnessokkay.com. thanks for joining us today Paul.

0:31:47 - (Paul Conrady): Thank you guys.

0:31:48 - (Josh Bellieu): Have you back.