Bioresonance Frequency Scan Explained: Parasites, SIBO & H. pylori

Is a bioresonance frequency scan useful on a wellness journey? Researcher and Neighborly Wellness founder Chip Paul joins Ultra Life Today to explain how non-diagnostic bio-resonance technology can provide informational insights into potential pathogen stress—like parasites, SIBO, and H. pylori—and help guide next steps with your practitioner.

We also cover the endocannabinoid system (CB1/CB2), why your Omega-3 to Omega-6 balance matters, how CBD really interfaces with the body, and practical strategies Chip uses in clinic to support gut and immune health.

What you’ll learn

• How bioresonance frequency scans work (informational, not a medical diagnosis)
• Why pathogens (parasites, SIBO, H. pylori) may correlate with persistent gut symptoms
• The Omega-3 : Omega-6 ratio’s role in inflammation & immune signaling
• Endocannabinoid basics: CB1 vs CB2, CBD’s real strengths, and common misconceptions
• Case stories: addressing burning/GERD-like symptoms, water retention, blood pressure, and more

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Transcript

0:00:00 - (Chip Paul): Each organ, all the way down to each cellular system that composes each organ or tissue system can be thought of as something meting out a frequency that's measurable. And there's healthy frequencies and non healthy frequencies. And so this machine, basically they've just built a big database of what healthy and non healthy is. And so it scans you. It'll scan you in about five minutes. You wear headphones and hold a little wand in your hand.

0:00:27 - (Chip Paul): And I get back all kinds of information. But the coolest thing I get back is it turns out that pathogens, pathogens have a much higher frequency than our normal tissue systems for the most part. And they're really easy to identify in frequency. So this thing can informationally detect, you know, staph in your heart wall or, you know, trichinella in your gut or.

0:01:03 - (Josh Bellieu): Welcome back to Ultralife today. You know, we were talking with Chip Paul in our last episode and he teed up some really interesting things related to the Omega 3, Omega 6 balance in our body and the endocannabinoid system. And now we're moving on to something real fascinating. It's something I'd not even heard of when I got on ship's website. Neighborlywellness.com Bio resonance frequency scan. And this is not a diagnostic tool because you can't say that. But what it is, it's a way that Chip can get feedback from the body and learn some profound things that can help you on your journey to health move forward fast.

0:01:42 - (Adam Payne): Yeah, it's information that we can gain to help us understand where we might want to focus more of our attention.

0:01:47 - (Josh Bellieu): Yeah, let's get into it. I was really fascinated with this concept of what you do, a bio resonance scan. Can you tell us a little about that? Because it was my first foray into hearing about this. And what's really cool is it really seems to be according to Chip. So we're going to let him prove himself here a way that. A way that one may potentially not have to spend so much on this diagnostic testing.

0:02:16 - (Josh Bellieu): So give us, give us a background in that.

0:02:18 - (Adam Payne): Okay.

0:02:19 - (Chip Paul): Yeah. So. So again, so the big thing is this is not a diagnostic. So let me be extraordinarily clear about this. Even if I was a physician, I could not use this instrument to diagnose any disease, any disease state, really view you medical. However, it's a great informational system that really helps, let's say, get to the bottom of what might be going on with someone. So what the system does is I guess the best way to explain this is cellularly. So we're just a big bag of cells, right? A big collection of cells.

0:02:56 - (Chip Paul): And if you. For example, let's say, let's take a heart cell. So a heart cell is making ATP out of frequency, right? He's banging out ATP. Now, interestingly, that's a couple of orders of magnitude below the frequency of the sun, which I find interesting as heck. So that frequency is pretty dang high. There's a lot of power that he's matting out. But, you know, if he's a good guy, he's going to want to raise his hand and say, hey, I want to participate with other heart cells and build a heart collective, right? And he does that, by the way, with the endocannabinoid system. He raises a CB1 neurorecept and says, I want to play. I want to be a part of the system. And if he's threatened, he'll pull it in or he'll start expressing a bunch of them, which says he's losing connection with the bigger system.

0:03:45 - (Chip Paul): But anyway, he's metting out a frequency. The collective is metting out of frequency. You on a whole are metting out of frequency. But each organ, all the way down to each cellular system that composes each organ or tissue system, can be thought of as something metting out a frequency that's measurable, and there's healthy frequencies and non healthy frequencies. And so this machine, basically, they've just built a big database of what healthy and non healthy is. And so it scans you. It'll scan you in about five minutes.

0:04:17 - (Chip Paul): You wear headphones and hold a little wand in your hand, and I get back all kinds of information. But the coolest thing that I get back is it turns out that pathogens. Pathogens have a much higher frequency than our normal tissue systems, for the most part, and they're really easy to identify in frequency. So this thing can informationally detect, you know, staph in your heart wall or, you know, trichinella in your gut or whatever. But I see really three major categories of infection in people. And I mean, everybody's infected. I don't care how healthy you. There's. I've scanned one person that hasn't had an infection at the time of scanning. And I've scanned thousands of people now.

0:05:04 - (Chip Paul): And that person's running for governor. I won't say who it is. But that person, they're a robot then, right? Or they're super duper healthy and alien. Yeah, yeah, or an alien. But anyway, you know what this does is it really helps me identify what type of infection someone potentially might have informationally. And what we see in most people, we see H. Pylori very frequently. And the way that that manifests is burning.

0:05:32 - (Chip Paul): So if someone has, you know, hey, I lay down at night and I burp up stomach ac. If I eat certain foods, I burp up stomach acid, they'll call it gerd, they'll call it acid reflux, they'll call it ulcers, all the same stuff. Basically, H. Pylori, he is a dangerous and wicked bacteria that will cause pancreatic cancer, stomach cancer, all manner of cancers. And if you're to the point where you have the burning, you are that close to being cancerous.

0:06:01 - (Chip Paul): And we've now built formulations. And this is part of what we're doing too, is I'm trying to validate my formulation formulations for drug development. And because we have some diagnostic equipment, again, that's somewhat qualifies, let's say for, you know, phase 0.5 clinical trials, kind of phase oney stuff. And that's, that's what we're, you know, trying to get data on now. But what we have at H. Pylori, you know, again, is a very powerful thing that appears to be working like a drug. And we've got a way to take away the burning, and then we've got a way to help your immune system eradicate the bug itself.

0:06:38 - (Chip Paul): We also see parasites. And parasites are probably the most prevalent thing that we see in people. You know, 98%, probably the people that we see have some form of parasite. And those are worms, helmets, you know, hook, round pin, tape type worms. And those can kill you over time. They're just slow movers and slow actors. They like you as a host and they like to live on you for a long time. You don't really die of a heart attack or kidney failure.

0:07:09 - (Chip Paul): That might be what goes on your death certificate. That might be what the box the doctor checks. But it doesn't work that way. God is a perfect engineer. He doesn't decide, one day, Adam, I think I'll stop. Your heart doesn't work that way. It takes years and years and years of stress and abuse for an organ to fail. What can cause those years and years and years of stress and abuse? Helmets. Parasites.

0:07:33 - (Chip Paul): Absolutely. And then the third category of thing that we see is SIBO is small intestinal bowel overgrowth. And these are people who have the severe bloating when they eat certain types of foods. These are the real severe people have food fear. They Literally are. You know, every bite of food that they take is anxiety ridden. And again, we can get rid of that in a week. You know, so we've very effectively targeted our formulations at the things that we're seeing, you know, on our bioresonance device.

0:08:05 - (Chip Paul): So we really have the ability to help people a lot quicker. And most of these people who have pylori or sibo or helmets, it's something that the professional medical system doesn't even recognize. You don't even get tested for this stuff. And that's why so many of these people fall through the cracks of professional medical. It's just, you know, professional medical assumes, gee, I'm sorry, you're broken, you're flawed.

0:08:30 - (Chip Paul): Might be genetics, might be other things, but you're just going to break and thank God we'll be here to fix you. Right?

0:08:36 - (Josh Bellieu): Right.

0:08:37 - (Chip Paul): Holistic people kind of have a different attitude. You know, God built you perfect. God is a perfect engineer. We have a natural system to help us understand our perfection and kind of use it to become more perfect. So those two worlds collide a lot, but, you know, they're moving our way, which is good.

0:08:57 - (Josh Bellieu): You threw out the gauntlet, and I can't. I got to rewind the tape really fast. You threw down the gauntlet. SIBO in a week. Hold on, hold on. Tell me how someone can address SIBO in a week. Because I. And again, I just know a little bit in this world of natural health, and I do know how to eat clean, but I know people that have struggled with sibo, that have cleaned up their diets, they've tried all kinds of stuff, chip.

0:09:26 - (Josh Bellieu): They've done H2O2 therapy, hydrogen peroxide, and all kinds of different things to try to mitigate that. How in the world do you attack that and say something as bold as in a week? We can really make a big dent in that. I gotta hear this.

0:09:42 - (Chip Paul): Yeah. You just have to understand what's going on. So with a deeper understanding of what's going on, you can always attack the problem, review the problem in a different way. So most SIBO is really caused by something called lactobacillus acidophilus, which is a common probiotic. Okay. So if you go to the store and you buy probiotics, so you're going to likely buy something with lactobacillus acidophilus in it.

0:10:11 - (Chip Paul): Now, lactobacillus acidophilus, if he stays in your biome, he's a helpful guy. He's a. He's a great guy. But if he populates your upper gi, he is incredibly harmful. And, and not that this is just observational, but we see, let's say, SIBO indicated in obesity quite frequently. We see SIBO indicated in type. Type 2 diabetes quite frequently. So is he the cause of those things? We. They're certainly correlated, I'll put it that way.

0:10:41 - (Chip Paul): But anyway, Lactobacillus acidophilus is the bad guy. And we see this sometimes so overgrown, you know, we'll see it indicated in people's rectums and their gallbladder, but way out of bounds from, let's say, the intestine. So what. What. How does this happen? How could this possibly happen? Well, just think about the inputs. Okay? So if you're taking a probiotic, you're throwing gasol on a sibo fire, and everybody's telling you take probiotics, it'll get better.

0:11:09 - (Josh Bellieu): Yes, they are.

0:11:10 - (Chip Paul): No, it will get worse. As if that probiotic has lacto in it. If you eat milk or dairy, you're consuming a ton of Lactobacillus acidophilus because it's part of dairy. It's just part of the guys that are in dairy. If you eat carbohydrates and everybody says, oh, eat that broccoli, eat that cauliflower. If you're eating a lot of fiber in a fermenter, you are throwing gasoline on the fire. So these things that we are told as far as our gut health.

0:11:41 - (Chip Paul): So fiber and a fermenter will really help. Not in this situation. It'll really hurt. Probiotics will really help. Not in this situation. They really hurt Fermenters. Not in this situation. They really hurt. So you really have to go. It's a stomach acid thing more than it is anything else. And you have to do things that increase your stomach acid. You have to, you know, kind of keto it. So proteins and fats are great if you have sibo, but carbs, not so much. You have to be really careful with the carbs that you eat, man.

0:12:10 - (Josh Bellieu): Thanks for going into that, because I. When I was talking to you out at your. Out at your wellness clinic, it was. When you mentioned the whole connection with acidophilus, I thought, man, we get on these health trains, you know, and everybody's promoting this and that out there. And what's the latest and greatest thing that you grab off the health food store shelf right after.

0:12:32 - (Adam Payne): Sure.

0:12:32 - (Josh Bellieu): And yet they really don't know. Many times, like you said, they're throwing gasoline on the actual fire. That's what A great analogy.

0:12:41 - (Adam Payne): I mean, it's, it's just, it's pervasive and kind of accepted to, to supplement with these different probiotics. And is it just acidophilus? I mean, there's also Boulardi and, and.

0:12:55 - (Chip Paul): Yeah, but it's mainly laptop that we see so overgrown. Yeah, other others can cause it. Yeah, there's Cleo say can cause it. So there's other overgrowths. The other thing that I see overgrown a lot is a Dimentia fragilis. And he's a guy that if he overgrows and kind of gets in your rectum, he'll cause, you know, rectal cancer and things like that. So it's these bugs are, you know, they're, they're causal to a lot of symptoms, you know, that we think are incurable, you know, now and your, and.

0:13:27 - (Adam Payne): Your scanner actually identifies the pathogen and its location informationally.

0:13:35 - (Chip Paul): It is not a diagnostic, but let me tell you what this allows me to do. And it's interesting. I had direct primary care doctor in here yesterday, so I put him through a scan. He's like, holy cow. He's like, this is the coolest thing I've ever seen, you know, so it's, it has a place, I think. But again, the FDA is not going to like it if you start using them or the FTC or the FEC or all those guys.

0:14:01 - (Adam Payne): Right.

0:14:01 - (Chip Paul): But they are super informational and they really help get to the bottom of a lot of stuff. So, you know, it gives you a holistic view of how someone is functioning. It gives you some crisis points. So, like, there's some things that I am now able to measure that will give me severity. You know, gastritis would be an obvious one. So, you know, there's, let's say a stair step of gastritis all the way up to ulceration and cancerous type gastritis.

0:14:34 - (Chip Paul): So, you know, it gives us a lot of good indications of severity and kind of what risks somebody might be at. And so we try to communicate that again. And when we communicate, we're very careful to not cross that medical boundary. It's, you know, we're not medical and we never claim to be, so it's, we're informational and we're godly.

0:14:54 - (Josh Bellieu): So, so do, do a lot of people think, especially here in the United States, that they, that they just couldn't possibly have parasites?

0:15:02 - (Chip Paul): Yes.

0:15:02 - (Josh Bellieu): And, and, and then, and of people that eat a really clean diet and they think, well, I don't, I couldn't possibly have parasites. Can you, can you bust that myth a little bit for us too? And, and then how one might approach parasites on a semiannual basis every three months. How, how does one do that? How does one keep themselves clean? Because I understand it's kind of an ongoing thing if you have pets.

0:15:31 - (Chip Paul): It absolutely is. And I would say it's not figured out yet. So it's a emerging field of science. But there's, there's four things that really we need to be concerned about. And, and, you know, how does this work? Well, every cell that you make, for the most part, there's some that don't do this, but for the most part, every cell that you make, you put a name tag on, blah, blah. It's called CD55. And CD55 is how your immune system. And there's other mechanisms, but this is just sort of high level.

0:15:59 - (Chip Paul): But CD55 is how your immune system recog is, oh, that's me, or oh, that isn't me. Of the things that are not you, there's four things, right? So there's bacterias, funguses, parasites, and viruses. Okay. And there's classifications underneath those guys. But those are the things that we can get infected with. Those are called pathogens. Generally, parasites are a type of pathogen. So why do we get infected with, with parasites, which are a type of pathogen?

0:16:34 - (Chip Paul): We've been trying to figure that out for a long time. I would argue that ancient Egypt had better food practices than we have right now. And we had better food practices in the 1800s than we have right now as far as our eating and kind of what we do. But we were taking digestive bitters. We were doing a lot of things. Let's say we were deworming ourselves. We were taking dichotomous herbs, earth. So we were aware of parasites back then, and we're doing things as protectives, but we weren't fully defending ourselves.

0:17:05 - (Chip Paul): And I, I've just written some intellectual property for some intellectual pro, and again, I can't publicly disclose it because I call it intellectual property. But let's say we've got this figured out a lot more. Like in God's system, it doesn't make sense to me that there are things that could infect you. So you have to be able to configure yourself against anything out here. Okay? And there's always going to be stuff that beats us, and we're going to have to figure out new ways to get better and better and better.

0:17:34 - (Chip Paul): But generally we should do a lot better job of protecting ourselves. Than we do. And there's reasons for that. And you'll hear me talk a lot about those reasons soon. But, you know, they're kind of weird and obvious sideways reasons why we continue to get infected. And it's behavior stuff. Mainly. It's just behavior and stuff we've lost over time that we knew. So.

0:18:01 - (Josh Bellieu): So you've been listening to Chip Paul, this is Ultralife today. I'm Josh Bellew. Adam Payne's hanging out with us in here. We're having an engaging conversation with Chip about the endocannabinoid system, about pathogens, about infections in the body, parasites. We didn't touch on fungus or mold yet. If you want to get a hold of of Chip, you can reach him@NeighborlyWellness.com for those of you that listening to this in the metro area strongly suggest, if you've listened to anything he said today, I think that Chip does an amazing job of taking the mystery out of a lot of things that people are just walking around with the mystery illness. They don't know what to do.

0:18:45 - (Josh Bellieu): They've spent plenty of time at the conventional doc, and they're not getting better. So I highly encourage you. Neighborlywellness.com Chip Paul, you know, before we kind of close this thing out, Chip, we talked about the endocannabinoid system, but we didn't actually talk about, like, hemp and CBD and things like that. You know, what do people get wrong about cbd? How's that for a question for you? You know, because it was one of those health revolutions, and you were kind of on the front edge of that here in Oklahoma, you know, in a pretty big way for a number of years.

0:19:22 - (Josh Bellieu): So what do people get wrong about cbd? And, you know, you've already said, well, hey, we can feed our endocannabinoid system by, you know, doing omega 3 and omega 6 properly. So what's the CBD? What's the deal with it?

0:19:36 - (Chip Paul): Yeah, I think CBD, most people think of it as a CB2 effector, you know, so, like, THC would be the thing in cannabis that would affect CB1, and CBD would be the thing in Cannabis that affects CB2. Well, it's kind of doesn't really work that way. So CBD really has more benefit as an immunosuppressant and as a, let's say, enhancer of CB1 neuroreceptor activity, you know, than it does at CB2. So it's more kind of engineering. It helps you increase your engineering surface and ability to do work, let's say, inside of your body versus really rev up your immune system.

0:20:19 - (Chip Paul): So CB2 action. CB1 is kind of our general control surface. So again, if a cell wants to participate in the collect, he's going to raise his CB1 hand that's going to say, hey, I'm. I want to be part of the system. You know, I don't want to be an individual guy anymore. And he's signaled by that. And basically that's the control mechanism for him wanting to participate in the collective. CB2 is a little bit more specific and it's just a developmental evolutionary thing. You know, when cells came together to build, you know, different structures, they had to have an endocannabinoid system.

0:20:55 - (Chip Paul): But as those structures got complicated enough to, let's say, be infected, then they had to develop an immune system. And CB2 is kind of a more direct immune control in your endocannabinoid system versus CB1. But CBDs from cannabis really help modify that CB1 environment more than they do anything at CB2. So they're FA inhibitors, they're immunosuppressants, and fall inhibition turns out to be a pretty good thing in our omega 6 heavy diet.

0:21:29 - (Chip Paul): So, yeah, I find I.

0:21:34 - (Adam Payne): In the work that we've done, we've identified that Most of the CB2 receptors are on immune cells in the body. Right. And the central nervous system actually has most of the CB1 receptor. So it's kind of like if you're looking to regulate the immune system and its activity and its engagement, that's where the CBDs or the non THC cannabinoids can have a better interface. And then because THC THCA really does integrate better with the CB1 receptors, which is why people get high when they.

0:22:18 - (Adam Payne): It's in the central nervous system where most of those receptors lay. It gets that effect. But there's a lot. It sounds like chip that you've gotten a much finer kind of interface on how different cannabinoids can influence different parts of the biology, essentially.

0:22:40 - (Chip Paul): Yeah, yeah. And you know, CB1 is kind of our master engineering and control surface. And every eucrotic cell will a CB1 neuroreceptor. I think the only cell inside of us that really won't express a CB1 is hemoglobin or red blood cell. But every other cell will. And not just cells Mitochondria Express CB1s, endoplasmic reticulum expressed CB1s and would have to if the endocannabinoid system is our Master control.

0:23:11 - (Chip Paul): So it's not just every cell, it's every organelle inside every cell. That's interesting.

0:23:17 - (Adam Payne): Very interesting.

0:23:18 - (Josh Bellieu): Hey, Chip, can you think of about two or three case studies that you could just kind of throw out here? Because a lot of people that are going to be listening, that are experiencing what you're finding walking in the door, you know, of your clinic on a daily basis, you mentioned H. Pylori, you mentioned other things. Can you talk a little bit about how some of those things are manifesting in an individual that comes into neighborly wellness and then how you're able to shift their life around, turn the tide, so to speak? Because those kind of stories always just really help an individual, I think, make a decision to step out of the world they've lived in for so long and say, you know, I'm going to go see that guy because he's getting results and I'm not getting results over here in this conventional paradigm world.

0:24:08 - (Chip Paul): Yeah, so. So let me give you a couple of examples. So we'll, we'll. We'll call this fella Joe. But Joe comes in complaining of severe burning, when every time he can only eat certain foods, anything that's acidic at all just causes him severe burning. His life is just completely revolves around his eating, the burning, you know, what's happening to him. And most people, again, hook him up to the scanner. He's got, you know, indicated H. Pylori, which is the obvious thing that he would have about 90% of the people, I can walk right out to our supplement shelf. And we'd built a product called Gut Restore that is at Sibo, and it consequently works with H. Pylori, which is kind of nice, but we can point them to that product, send them on their way, they get better, everything is fine.

0:24:59 - (Chip Paul): But there is a certain amount of people that that doesn't work for. So we do that with him. He calls and I always tell people, listen, if this isn't working in two or three days, call me, because, you know, you're going to need something else. We're missing it. So he calls, he says it's not doing anything. I mean, it's just worse, if anything. So we formulating for him. And again, I know what the situation is. It's an ulceration, and acid comes up in ulceration. So we either have to heal that ulceration or restrict stomach acid. And you don't really want to restrict stomach acid. That's a bad, bad, bad, bad thing to do.

0:25:37 - (Chip Paul): So, so those cells turn over every Three to five days. And there's, you know, think licorice, you know, will help with that. Mastic gum will help with that. So just basically built, cut down the burning and that turned into a product that works so well. And within a day we cut out his. Something that he had all his life, completely ruled his life. Within a day we completely altered that situation. And now he's, he's better give you another situation of a lady. A lady who comes in, she looks like a kind of a face in a, in a water balloon, okay. So she's, you know, retaining that much water.

0:26:20 - (Chip Paul): She has constant yeast infection, she has polycystic ovarian syndrome. Her hormones are all whacked out. So we put her on the scanner and she indicates for a heavy, heavy, heavy parasite burden and has everything, funguses, viruses. She's got a little pylori too. But it's looking like kind of the parasites are her main thing. Now as you begin to investigate this, if a woman is taking progesterone or estrogen, they are turning off half of their immune system.

0:26:57 - (Chip Paul): Okay. Because if you're estrogen dominant, you're going to have a type 2 immune response. You're going to have more of an antibody response. You're going to shut down your killer response. Why? It's just the way that you work. If a woman is pregnant now, she's going to come over here so she doesn't kill her embryo. So if someone is taking a bunch of in testosterone will do other things. But basically if someone, if a woman is taking a bunch of hormone supplements, they're going to be over here in this immune response and that's gonna leave a wide open to parasitic infections and things like that.

0:27:30 - (Chip Paul): So we begin to. And this lady also has high blood pressure. Now when somebody comes in with high blood pressure, I'm like, awesome. That's a great thing because again, I can show you how you're getting better just by your blood pressure going down. So it's a feedback mechanism that somebody has directly on whether they're getting better or not. We couldn't get her blood pressure down. I couldn't get.

0:27:50 - (Chip Paul): And again, most people right off the shelf, 90% of people, we just get to move, no problem. But we began to work with her and began to understand that she was stuck in kind of this hormone infection loop. And it's taken us a while to get her out of that, but we've got her out of that. We've got her blood pressure coming down, we've got her losing water weight. And again, water weight and blood pressure are all the same hormone called aldosterone.

0:28:16 - (Chip Paul): And you will dysregulate that hormone in severe infective situations. So Illinois 6, Illinois 4 and IL 13, I think, are the guys that really dysregulate him. They're caused by Helmuth infection. So aldosterone is, you know, blood pressure, let's say, can be directly tied back to infective. It's not you're breaking. It's not your heart is failing. It's not that your blood vessels are failing. It's not that God is a poor engineer. It doesn't work that way. God is a perfect engineer.

0:28:50 - (Chip Paul): No one makes old cells. No one makes disease cells. No one makes sick cells. No one makes infected cells. We all make perfect cells, don't we? There's a lot of things that can happen to those cells after we make them, but you're matting out pretty perfect cells.

0:29:08 - (Adam Payne): Wow.

0:29:08 - (Josh Bellieu): Amazing. You've been listening to Chip Paul of Neighborly Wellness. Go out and see him or do a remote consultation. Neighborlywellness.com and his wife Cindy are fascinating people and I think they're pioneering some new and interesting Stu.

0:29:24 - (Adam Payne): That's fascinating, Chip. Really looking forward to get to know you and some of the things that you're doing.

0:29:29 - (Josh Bellieu): Yeah, this has been ultra life today. Wherever you like podcasts, you can go to Apple, you can go to Spotify, you can get on YouTube. We probably have about 170 archived episodes there. If you like what we're doing, bringing relevant content from people like Chip Paul. Hey, like, subscribe, share, and we'll see you next time. And Chip, thanks again for joining us by brother.

0:29:52 - (Adam Payne): Yeah, really enjoyed this. Thanks, Chip. Yeah, take care.

0:29:55 - (Chip Paul): Thank you both. Thank you.