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Why Your Parasite Cleanse Isn’t Working
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Are you taking ivermectin or doing parasite cleanses… and still not feeling better?
In this episode of Ultra Life Today, we’re back with Kim “The Worm Queen” Rogers of RogersHood — a former Western medicine insider who walked away from the system after discovering that parasites were the hidden root cause of her mystery illness.
Kim explains why:
- Wormwood only targets specific worms
- Ivermectin doesn’t hit pinworms (and what that means for your cleanse)
- Parasite cleanses without binders, candida support & heavy metal support can actually make you feel worse
- How she went from running medical programs to building her own 10,000 sq ft parasite-cleanse manufacturing facility
We dig into:
- Why Western medicine completely missed her parasite load
- How she felt relief within days of her first herbal cleanse
- The difference between “kill phase” and real healing phase
- Why pinworms & threadworms are some of the hardest parasites to get rid of
- How Kim built a gentle, all-in-one herbal protocol so regular people don’t wreck themselves with aggressive DIY cleanses
✨ Watch Kim’s first interview on Ultra Life Today for her full backstory (how parasites nearly destroyed her health and what she did next).
🧪 Interested in Kim’s protocols?
Search “RogersHood parasite cleanse” to learn more about her kits and approach.
👍 If this helped you, please like, subscribe, and share this episode with someone struggling with chronic mystery symptoms, gut issues, or failed parasite cleanses.
Listen to the full episode here or watch it on YouTube: https://youtu.be/OfQnzkk0xlA
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0:00:00 - (Kim Rogers): Wormwood is the same frequency or similar frequency to specific worms. It is an anti parasitic but it's only an anti parasitic for specific worms. So when you take something like iver, it is not a frequency for pinworms. Okay. So a lot of people that will take iver are not even touching their pin worms.
0:00:20 - (Josh Bellew): Yeah.
0:00:21 - (Kim Rogers): And that's. And then that actually creates more conflict.
0:00:26 - (Adam Payne): Foreign.
0:00:34 - (Josh Bellew): It's ultra life today. I'm Josh Bellew.
0:00:36 - (Adam Payne): I'm Adam Payne and we're here with Kim Rogers.
0:00:39 - (Josh Bellew): A killer conversation.
0:00:41 - (Adam Payne): I can't wait to Killer conversation.
0:00:44 - (Josh Bellew): A killer conversation. Kill those bugs in your body.
0:00:47 - (Adam Payne): Well, it's not worm around the bush here. Let's get into the real nematode of it.
0:00:52 - (Josh Bellew): Kill. Kim, we're so happy to have you. And I'm still kind of stunned at how rapidly you were able to turn your health around. You kind of stabilized from completely going off the cliff, but you weren't healthy and you discovered parasites. You took a chance and did a parasite cleanse and you instantly began to feel better. And it's led you and you had this incredible medical background, you know, right in the sweet spot of western medicine, knowing all about this stuff. And as you say, how did they miss it? Well, here's the deal.
0:01:27 - (Josh Bellew): Adam and I interview so many integrative and functional doctors and one of our favorite questions is because we know many of them are board certified MDs long before they got into integrative and functional medicine. You know the number one answer we get, Kim and I know you know what it is. How did you go from there to here? And they always say my wife got sick, my husband got sick, my mom got sick, or my dad got sick, or my child got sick. And they say I instantly recognized my inability in western medicine to be able to deal with that. And it's like their life flashes in front of their eyes.
0:02:07 - (Josh Bellew): And all of a sudden the journey and the quest because of their loved one and being in jeopardy is what brings them on that journey. And you of had a similar experience.
0:02:18 - (Adam Payne): I'm really in this case though, she was the sick one.
0:02:21 - (Josh Bellew): Well, exactly right.
0:02:22 - (Adam Payne): And finding and looking for answers and not finding answers in any of the western places. And so I'm actually, I'm a little astonished at how quickly you felt relief after doing this first cleanse. And I got to ask the question, was that one cleanse that you did, was it enough to get you where you needed to be or did you have to do more?
0:02:47 - (Kim Rogers): Yeah, I mean I've done way more. But the fact that My body in those moments, didn't have to fight anymore with all of the crap that came out of my body.
0:02:57 - (Adam Payne): Wow.
0:02:57 - (Kim Rogers): I just released a ton of things. And that happens to me and quite a few people often. You just do something just a little bit different and it makes them inhospitable in your body, and so they want to leave. You've made it uncomfortable for them. And so interesting in that moment, I didn't have to fight with them. Right. Like, my energy was to push them out. And then my body was like, whoa, wait, of course.
0:03:21 - (Josh Bellew): Roll up my sleeves and let's get busy rebuilding.
0:03:24 - (Kim Rogers): You totally, totally. Constantly in a kill phase. It was like, I'm finally in a healing phase. Let's go.
0:03:31 - (Adam Payne): So your body was entirely focused on trying to deal with these parasites. You didn't know that you were just feeling really not well and in a deep, profound emotionally, physically, spiritually, mentally. It sounds like the Kim before the parasite cleanse was not a well person. Were you even able to work or what was your home life like before the cleanse?
0:04:01 - (Kim Rogers): I left the. The workforce in 2016, which was really disappointing because I just finished my second medical degree, my second healthcare degree. And just so you guys know, I was valedictorian in both of my degrees over thousands of people.
0:04:17 - (Josh Bellew): So surprised.
0:04:18 - (Kim Rogers): It really. It's really important for me to, like, gain all the knowledge. So it is kind of shocking to think that someone like myself and all these genius minds just put it aside and thought, oh, that's just not even.
0:04:35 - (Josh Bellew): Well, it is a paradigm. And I tell our viewers as well, when you listen to someone like a Kim Rogers, other doctors that bring these incredible modalities in, I say, please don't blame your Western medicine doctor. They're trained in a very, very narrow paradigm. They do what they do really well. They don't know what they don't.
0:04:54 - (Adam Payne): Yeah.
0:04:55 - (Kim Rogers): They don't know to stay in a box.
0:04:58 - (Josh Bellew): Yeah. They are forced to stay in a system and check every box and the way you treat a patient.
0:05:02 - (Kim Rogers): I let my license go with all of this at the. So I went viral in July of 21, and I let my license go in September of 21 because it's restrictive and I wanted to be able to share my story. And when I started our business, Rogers Hood, when I started that in December of 21, I really didn't want to have the same box that I had to stay in. When I worked in Western medicine, it was. It's really important to be able to share my story without having handcuffs. To me, you know.
0:05:33 - (Josh Bellew): Okay, so Adam and I, we have a huge 25,000 square foot manufacturing facility here. Our company, we have unique technologies and stuff, but ever since the first day I met Adam, one of the things that I loved, I'm into purity. I'm into sourcing ingredients from the right places. We continue always to do better and better and better here. And I love that about this company and the way we truly have quality products that you can trace back to the right places, the right things, the not putting things in that don't need to be there, you know, leaving those things out and putting the better things in there.
0:06:10 - (Josh Bellew): Tell me a little bit about how you developed your formulas. And by the way, I'm on about day 20 of my first parasite cleanse in my entire life.
0:06:18 - (Adam Payne): Wow.
0:06:19 - (Josh Bellew): Now, so far, other than my only Herxheimer reaction, for those of you that don't know what that means, it's a detoxifying thing. There's a bunch of them you can have. I've actually felt really good. Kim have had some. I've experienced some loose stools, you know, along the way. That's about the only thing so far. And you know, and of course I'm a guy that prophylactically, you know, I prophylact with ivermectin about five days a month. I also do about five days of fenben a month.
0:06:47 - (Josh Bellew): And so I suspect I've been doing a little house cleaning there, but I know that's not the broad house cleaning that you came up with. So tell us about your ingredients and how you decided to start being your own person and putting these products together.
0:07:02 - (Kim Rogers): Well, let's go back to when you said 25, 000 square foot manufacturing facility. It was music to my ears because we have a 10000 square foot manufacturing facility we built ourselves because we make our own products as well. We soak all of our herbs, they're organic, I've sourced them. So everything you were saying is exactly what my company does. And we do it in Jonesboro, Arkansas. When I went viral, I met a gal on Tick Tock. Her name is Erica and she voluntarily came to me and said, I'd love to build you a website because at the time we didn't have link tree and we have all of those things four years ago when all of this started. Right.
0:07:39 - (Kim Rogers): It's totally different. I mean the way it is on social media is completely different than it was when I first started. So she was like, I want to volunteer my time and I want to make you a website and we started building this website and I thought, gosh, why aren't we just building our own product? Like I'm talking about all these other companies products and the, the actual tincture that I went viral over.
0:08:00 - (Kim Rogers): They use a natural ingredient and they use caramel coloring. And I asked them why and asked them what their patent natural ingredients were and they would not disclose it. And I was like, I'm not disclosing my sales anymore to you. I'm not going to talk about you anymore. If you can't tell me what's inside of a product that I'm taking and that I'm sharing with a community at that time of around 300000 strong, then I, I don't want to talk about you anymore. I don't know.
0:08:27 - (Josh Bellew): Come on, preach it, sister.
0:08:28 - (Kim Rogers): Yeah, I didn't like it. I didn't agree with it. It was really an unsettling feeling here. We're all trying to get away from big Pharma. I able to do it on my own and to control the narrative and to control what products I'm talking about and what's going out there. And it was really important to me because that is my whole stance. Transparency, organic, natural. I'm healing my body. I want to know what's going in my body. And if you as a company can't tell me that, I'm not going to talk about you and I'm not going to take you.
0:08:59 - (Kim Rogers): So, so that's what started our company, was that exact.
0:09:02 - (Adam Payne): Well, did you ever find out what their secret ingredient was?
0:09:05 - (Kim Rogers): No, but I have a better ingredients.
0:09:07 - (Adam Payne): Okay, there you go.
0:09:08 - (Kim Rogers): Yeah. I mean I'm like, I don't understand. When you soak an herb you don't need to add caramel coloring. You don't. So that to me meant that it was a lab made product and I'm trying to not take lab made products in that sense, when you can just have the herb.
0:09:26 - (Adam Payne): You have to disclose what's. I mean we're talking about making anything you have to disclose the ingredients of what's in the product to the people that you're selling it to here in the United States at least.
0:09:41 - (Josh Bellew): Yeah. So Kim, we have a mutual friend who has been the past president of the Herbal Products Association. Adam has attended that show a number of times. Learned some crazy things about all of the adulteration. Adulteration. False stuff going on. So tell me a little about how you developed relationships to be able to source herbs and maybe how you tested those. And, and, and do you also actually even work with Individuals that are doing wild crafting. I'm curious.
0:10:14 - (Kim Rogers): Well, I want to know.
0:10:15 - (Josh Bellew): That can be tough because of the lack of supply in some places.
0:10:19 - (Kim Rogers): It's very easy. It's really an easy process that we went through. And it's because I learned how to make tinctures with mushrooms with my husband. And so we just applied that same same logic and concept to making these tinctures. We just went and studied all of the herbs and all of the ailments and all of the issues and frequencies, and I just really dove in deep. And when I talk about that, I also want to go back and touch on Ivor and Fen Bendazole, because it's really a big play on why I did what I did when it came to making tinctures for parasite cleansing.
0:10:56 - (Kim Rogers): It really does have to do with the fact that Ivor and fenbendazole and albendazole and men is all. All of the zols. They're a synthetic driven drug. They're made by big Pharma. And we're all trying to not take synthetics that our bodies don't necessarily know how to process. And that's what happens with those particular drugs, specifically during 2020, when Ivor was, like, villainized. Right. So I took Ivor and I figured out in the process that Iver only helps with around five frequencies of worms.
0:11:33 - (Kim Rogers): And I'm saying frequency because everything we do is a frequency. Everything that we take is a frequency. So all I did was figure out what the frequency of the ailment that I had while I was parasite cleansing was. And I grabbed that herb. That's all that Big Pharma's done. That's all that I did. I realized just like when an opera singer sings and she shatters the glass with her voice or his voice, it's because they got their frequency of their voice to the same as the glass and it shattered it.
0:12:03 - (Adam Payne): Yeah, there's a resonance there, right?
0:12:06 - (Josh Bellew): Yeah. Kim, would you pull back the curtain a little bit? Because I know we're going to get barraged with people going, I want to know what kind of scan Kim Rogers did to figure out the frequency of her particular illness. So tell us about the tool, because there's some really great tools out there. We know people that use two or three different ones. There's also so, so much confusing information out there, and you never really know. We want to know from somebody that has experienced it, how do you dial into the frequency of that illness?
0:12:37 - (Adam Payne): The guys up in Edmond who we just had, do they Have a frequency scanner?
0:12:41 - (Josh Bellew): Yeah, he does a bioresonance frequency scanner.
0:12:43 - (Adam Payne): Bioresonance scanner. Okay, so he does that kind of. Was this the same kind of thing that you've done? No.
0:12:47 - (Josh Bellew): Tell me how that worked and what you did.
0:12:50 - (Kim Rogers): I just know that when you have an ailment like heavy metals and you go and find a solution to what your heavy metals are in your body, cilantro is that solution. Right. That's the frequency that'll go in and assist in shattering an ailment for heavy metals. So wormwood. Wormwood is the same frequency or similar frequency to specific worms. It is an anti parasitic, but it's only an anti parasitic for specific worms.
0:13:20 - (Kim Rogers): So when you take something like iver, it is not a frequency for pinworms. Okay. So a lot of people that will take Ivor are not even touching their pinworms.
0:13:30 - (Josh Bellew): Oh yeah.
0:13:31 - (Kim Rogers): And that's. And then that actually creates more conflict because in my opinion, I think pinworm thread worms are actually a lot harder to rid your body of than any other worm.
0:13:40 - (Adam Payne): Interesting.
0:13:41 - (Kim Rogers): It is very difficult to get rid of pinworms.
0:13:43 - (Josh Bellew): Okay.
0:13:44 - (Kim Rogers): So taking Ivor doesn't get rid of them. Right. So you have to bring something else in to help rid your body of them.
0:13:50 - (Adam Payne): Now do you find, Kim, that we have to do combinations of different things in order to, in order to affect these, these, these parasites. And I think that that's that kind of wisdom, both in natural medicine and in functional medicine is something that is beyond, you know, the current paradigms, the way people think about, you know, a cleanse. So. And you address that in your, in your, in your cleanse, how you put things together.
0:14:18 - (Adam Payne): Yes, I've seen you, you gifted me a one month supply of, of your products and I really appreciate that. I have not done the cleanse yet. I'm planning on doing.
0:14:27 - (Josh Bellew): Yeah, he wanted to wait and see if. Hi, I passed away. And then it's like. Well, I don't think I'm gonna be.
0:14:32 - (Adam Payne): No, no, no, no. It's just. I had. We. I just came back from a whole month of conferences and being, traveling and going back and forth and doing a bunch of things. I wanted to have a month at home when I'm excited to continue.
0:14:45 - (Josh Bellew): Let me recap. So what I was hearing you say is when you reference frequency, I'm assuming that you looked at all the historical data that is available for this malady and this particular botanical or herb, and that's how you're using the language of frequency, right?
0:15:04 - (Kim Rogers): Yeah.
0:15:05 - (Josh Bellew): It's not through using Some type of scanner or anything. Okay, perfect. Now I just wanted to clarify.
0:15:10 - (Kim Rogers): I did get a stool test. So I did have an idea, but you don't really need to have a stool test. You don't really need to test for parasites to get.
0:15:19 - (Josh Bellew): Because everybody has them. They just.
0:15:20 - (Kim Rogers): Everyone has parasites or they have a symptom of parasite. And so all I did was I realized that you really do need to have like wormwood and Oregon grape root. Both are anti parasitics. Oregon grape root, which is in sustain. So we have three tinctures and then we have the binder. That's our standard OG kit. And so when you bring in wormwood with Oregon grape root, you're not just tackling the normal parasites that you. Everyone thinks, but you're also tackling small intestinal parasites and.
0:15:53 - (Kim Rogers): And microscopic parasites. And so you got to go in and actually do all of this synergistically. If you try and do just iver. Right. People don't realize you still have to bind. Like it doesn't. Even when you're getting a massage, you should do a binder. And that's because you're moving your lymphatic system.
0:16:12 - (Josh Bellew): Right?
0:16:13 - (Adam Payne): Right.
0:16:13 - (Kim Rogers): Ivor's going in and moving it. But it's also creating conflict amongst other environmental toxins in your body. And so people don't realize that if you're killing off a physical worm, it is holding six to eight times its weight in spores, heavy metals, other worms, bacteria and viruses. And when you bring in those ailments, you gotta sweep them out somehow. So here I'm doing all of the. Just paraguard, right? That's what the. The first tincture I did was. It's just a parasite cleanse. It gave me Candida.
0:16:49 - (Kim Rogers): It made my heavy metals just disrupt my microbiome. And so I realized then, oh, wait, so you have to do a parasite cleanse and you have to do a candida cleanse. And now I have Epstein Barr virus, which dropped out of a physical worm. And I have heavy metals that are just roaming freely in my body now. So what do I do? And that's when I started to slowly realize that I need to bring in cilantro. I need to support.
0:17:17 - (Kim Rogers): You can't stay in a killing the whole time. And that's what Ivor. And that's what these synthetics do. And without people being able to talk about it. And that's the problem. I started to talk about it four years ago and I got shut down. I got banned on one of my accounts for talking about how you should you can do iver, you can do all the synthetics, but then five days later you need to roll up and you need to do a pair of five parasite cleanse with herbs to do it like a general Z pack, right?
0:17:43 - (Kim Rogers): You got to do it in a specific way. Or you could make yourself sicker, which is what happened to my husband and me on camera. Because we had them coming out our skin. We weren't binding. I didn't know you had to bring in herbs for heavy metals. Like, it really is a series of things you need to do. And the general public doesn't have that kind of money to go to a practitioner and have them walk through all of this with you.
0:18:07 - (Kim Rogers): So that's really what made me step up and say, I'm going to do a product, it's going to be all encompassing. You're going to be able to start it, it's going to be gentle. Because a bad cleanse is like a bad trip, but you need to do it.
0:18:21 - (Josh Bellew): And I had an intuitive feeling as I looked at what you'd put together. First thing was, is I was like, man, she's covering all the bases here, this comprehensive thing. She understands that leaving one out of the loop can actually really rebound and create big problems for somebody. I love the fact that in the way you prepped these, I had an intuitive feeling. You were like, if I make this strong as rocket fuel, I'm going to run all these people away that need help.
0:18:49 - (Josh Bellew): Because we know this. We've been through this. I've been through it in my personal life. I've been into health since I was 16 years old. You recommend some really killer super green food to somebody that's all toxed up and they just immediately start having herxheimer reactions and they're like, you're trying to make me sick. I'll never take another natural thing in my life. So I think it was very wise what you did in our next segment. So I'm gonna kind of wind up here because you've got another really interesting product called soak. And I know it's gonna rattle some people's cages, but I'm into humic and fulvic acid through a friend of mine for years. So this is gonna be fun.
0:19:26 - (Josh Bellew): You know, you've been listening to Kim Ro, the worm queen. Rogershood.com is the way you can touch base with her and her amazing products. Rogershood.com. you know, we talked about Kim's journey to health. She stabilized her health. She then actually discovered or saw TikTok realized that maybe I've got parasites. Tried some historical herbs for that. Immediately began to be better. Put her on a track to starting her own company, coming up with this unique, comprehensive approach that's easy and it's gentle.
0:20:04 - (Josh Bellew): You got to check her out. Rogers hood.com this is Ultralife today. I'm Josh Bellew.
0:20:08 - (Adam Payne): I'm Adam Payne. And thanks for joining me.
0:20:20 - (Josh Bellew): Sam.