Sugar Is Stealing From Your Bones

Can sugar actually cause your body to pull minerals from your bones?

In Episode 2 of our series with Stephen Heuer of Synergistic Nutrition, we go beyond calcium supplements and uncover the real drivers of bone loss — acid pH, antibiotics, sugar spikes, hidden infections, and gut imbalance.

We discuss:

• How refined sugar disrupts calcium-phosphorus ratios
• Why the body “steals” minerals from teeth and bones
• The connection between pH, bone dissolution, and osteoporosis
• The microbiome’s role in mineral balance
• Sunlight, vitamin D, MK-4, and bone remodeling
• Why bisphosphonates may not be the long-term answer

This episode reframes bone health from a simple calcium issue to a full biochemical and lifestyle conversation.

Watch the full episode here: https://youtu.be/ryPdI44oPoM

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Transcript

0:00:00 - (Stephen Heuer): So regular refined sugar, you consume four more ounces of that in one setting and within two and a half hours your calcium phosphorus ratios are going to decline and go off. And the body then for that several hour window, it's like I think about eight hours like it is. Body's going to steal from your teeth and your jawbone and your bone structure the calcium and phosphorus that it needs to bring balance back.

0:00:28 - (Josh Bellieu): Foreign. Welcome back to Ultra Life today. I'm Josh Bellow. I'm hanging out with one of my friends for a number of years now, Steven Hewer. Although we've never met in person, today we actually know what we look like. SynergisticNutrition.com you got to go on this guy's website. He is an innovator. He thinks outside the box. His education has not only been self taught, but he has embraced a particular school out in Arizona over the years with a particular doctor.

0:01:02 - (Josh Bellieu): That is definitely stuff that is really not taught a lot today, but I think is foundational for learning what's going on with your health at the root level and changing that. You know, we talked a little bit about gut ph in the first part of this. We really made a huge distinction between these protein bound forms of calcium that you get off the shelf thinking this is really going to help me with osteoporosis and bone density and it may actually be taking you further or closer to the cliff that you may be falling off of and end up not only with heart trouble, circulatory problems, artery problems in life, there's ways to get around this, there's ways to navigate this, this section we're going to get into. And by the way, so Stephen introduced an idea called ionic calcium.

0:01:54 - (Josh Bellieu): If you do a consult with him, you reach out to him, you get on his website, you'll figure out how to put yourself in the appropriate category to take the supplement that he would recommend. Getbonesofsteel.com is a really cool way you could find out more about what we're talking about here on this podcast. Listen, Steven, welcome back for episode two. You know, what would you say are lifestyle factors for bone health before we would even get into some of the basic things like exposure to sunlight, grounding vitamin D forms of that and cofactors for that. Do things like boron come into play in this world as well? You know, certain trace minerals that are co factors in this space. But before we do that, what is kind of the day in the life of an individual that's trying to move toward a healthy Lifestyle as it relates to bone density and osteoporosis prevention.

0:02:50 - (Josh Bellieu): What are Stephen's top three things that he'd say? Hey, anybody can do this?

0:02:55 - (Stephen Heuer): I'm going to answer that by saying, what's the known causes of bone loss so that people understand how this happens. So one of them is being older and not producing enough ionic calcium. And so now you've got the parathyroid turned on and you're dissolving bones. So it's an ionic calcium deficiency which happens when you're past age 35.

0:03:12 - (Josh Bellieu): Just an age related thing that continues to progress. Okay, thank you.

0:03:16 - (Stephen Heuer): The next one is an acid ph. So the body ph is supposed to be alkaline. So your blood PH is supposed to be 7.35, 7.45. And all the body's mechanisms are geared to sacrifice other tissues to keep the PH neutral. If you're not alkalinizing the body enough through supplementation or through green vegetable juices or something that aggressively alkalinizes and the body produces more acids in a day than alkali naturally through metabolism, but it's supposed to be maintained. Part of the deterioration of process of the body is a progressive more acidification because people are not addressing this.

0:03:49 - (Stephen Heuer): And so the body, when it's acidic, the blood is threatened. So it says, I'm going to steal calcium out of the bones to neutralize this acid, and I'm going to steal other protein structures. You're going to steal protein out of the cartilage of the joints. You're going to steal protein out of other tissues. Because some of those amino acids neutralize acids. So that's two. Number three is antibiotics. Anybody that's used antibiotics for a length of time and never fixed their gut microbiome has created a infection in their GI tract from fungal overgrowth and pathogenic bacteria overgrowth that causes excess acids to be leaked into the bloodstream through the GI tract. That overwhelms the body's PH regulation. So the body dissolves bone to compensate.

0:04:26 - (Stephen Heuer): Fourth is consuming four or more ounces of sugar in one setting. So regular refined sugar, you consume four more ounces of that in one setting and within two and a half hours, your calcium phosphorus ratios are gonna decline and go off. And the body then for that several hour window, it's like, I think about eight hours. Like it is, body's gonna steal from your teeth and your jawbone and your bone structure the calcium and phosphorus that it needs to bring balance back.

0:04:51 - (Stephen Heuer): Wow.

0:04:52 - (Josh Bellieu): Okay, okay, all, all of you sugarholics and sugar fiends out there at best, you need to be very, very judicious about limiting. And you heard Stephen even mention a magic number. Did you say four ounces?

0:05:07 - (Stephen Heuer): Yep, four ounces. So basically you're supposed to have this ratio of calcium to phosphorus of 8.75 to 3.5 milligrams for 100cc's of blood. And when you consume the chocolate, whatever. This is all studied by Melvin page. He did 40,000 blood tests on all these people, gave them the chocolate. They then tested their blood every half hour. And after two and a half hours, basically this ratio became off. And it actually was 32 hours of time where the body was demineralizing the teeth and the jawbone structure and the skeletal structure structure to. To deal with the deficiency created by this sugar consumption. And of course, white sugar is the worst.

0:05:44 - (Stephen Heuer): But fruit sugar can be part of this. If you're doing too much like fruit juice. I don't think honey's probably a big issue because it's. If you get good honey unheated, there's a lot of other medicinal properties to it.

0:05:53 - (Josh Bellieu): Right.

0:05:55 - (Stephen Heuer): You know, and I've observed people with a vegan diet are. You know, when I used to do darkfield microscopy, it was consistent that the vegans that came to me, they had gum recession and, and tooth decay and had to have all this dental work because they weren't getting the calcium and phosphorus from the diet, particularly the phosphorus from the meats. And you can't get enough calcium and phosphorus from vegetarian sources because these minerals are bound to cellulose in that plant material.

0:06:18 - (Stephen Heuer): And the human digestive tract doesn't produce cellulase, the enzyme necessary to digest cellulose. So you get very little actual nutrient absorption. You would have to do vegetable juices to concentrate these minerals to get any degree of. Of mineral balancing that you need on a vegetarian diet.

0:06:35 - (Josh Bellieu): Wow.

0:06:36 - (Stephen Heuer): And then the other one is when you have a hidden infection or cancer. So in the body, like when I had my mercury poisoning, took years to figure this out. I had a coated tongue at one point. I had fungus growing on the hair of my armpits, like a whole sheath of white growing around each hair. I had fungus up the wazoo because mercury and mercury is like hugely in my body. And so wherever mercury deposits, it damages the cell's metabolism so it can't convert glucose into energy optimally. So rather than getting 32 to 36 units of ATP for a molecule of glucose, you get far less than that and a lot more lactic acid. And that lactic Acid lowers your PH around the tissues. And that PH lowering is basically lowering the oxygen level because ph controls oxygen. So when your PH lower is too low, the environment is anaerobic because it's low oxygen. And the spores in the human body, Candida parapsulosis, Candida albicans, Mucoracemosis, Aspergillus nig and others, grow from their spore stage into their fungal stage. And now the fungal metabolism produces alcohol and other toxins that are going to make this acid ph continue and create cancer environment and rob your bones because the body's trying to keep the PH of the blood in this neutral range.

0:07:42 - (Josh Bellieu): So. So let's go back to number two, which I believe was the ph factor.

0:07:49 - (Stephen Heuer): Yeah.

0:07:49 - (Josh Bellieu): Tell our people some practical things they can do to begin to move that PH toward what you said was 7 to 7.45.

0:07:59 - (Stephen Heuer): And you can measure it, though, by reflected in your saliva. Your blood and your tissues are supposed to be 7.35, 7.45.

0:08:05 - (Josh Bellieu): Now do those little test strips on a roll that I got at my biological dentist. Is that an accurate way to do that?

0:08:13 - (Stephen Heuer): That's an accurate way to do it. I carry them, too.

0:08:14 - (Josh Bellieu): Very inexpensive. Okay, cool.

0:08:16 - (Stephen Heuer): Yeah. And so. And you want to get them in the right range, 5.5 to 8.5. That's the window, not other windows. That's the best window of ph. You know, when the litmus paper is going to change color, you got that range you're going to be getting. So anyways, to alkalinize the body, you want lime water, which is calcium hydroxide. It's a pH11. And so when you add a tablespoon or two of that to your water, drink a little bit of that with your first and last meal of the day, that's strongly alkalinizing because some people are very.

0:08:43 - (Stephen Heuer): They have cancer or whatever, it's not necessarily enough. So they also take calcium hydroxide in pill form. And that's just called Cal 2. It's C, a L hyphen, and then The Roman numeral 2. It's on my website. It's a. It's a Carrie Reams product. And those are the two most alkalinizing things you could take.

0:08:58 - (Josh Bellieu): And if I need to pause you again, because we just happen to have. Stephen, a lot of. Honestly, we've had 70,000 people approach our company that are utilizing some of our products for immune support, that are on a active cancer journey. So I need you to say once again, you said calcium hydroxide.

0:09:19 - (Stephen Heuer): It's called lime water. Lime water. L I M E not lime and

0:09:23 - (Josh Bellieu): that's actually readily available. But is there lime water and then lime water? Is there some good sources that one could get those inexpensively from? Right.

0:09:32 - (Stephen Heuer): It's called, just called lime water and it's on my website. So it's, it's a Carybeans product and they use sulfur water. The sulfur makes soluble the calcium hydroxide so you can absorb it. If it's not in sulfur water, it's going to contribute to depositing in your tissues.

0:09:44 - (Josh Bellieu): Wow. I've just been recently learning about the sulfated connection within water and what that does for absorption. So that's really cool you brought that up. And you said one teaspoon in the morning and walk in, it's actually one

0:09:57 - (Stephen Heuer): to two tablespoons twice a day. And you have to determine the dosage based upon your morning saliva ph. So your morning saliva ph when you get up between 5 and 7am before you eat, drink or brush your teeth and provided the previous night you don't have food in your mouth and on your teeth. You've water picked your teeth, you've flushed your teeth, you've cleaned your teeth thoroughly, there's no food particles on your teeth. And then the next morning you can milk your saliva between 5 and 7am, spit on pH paper and then that's gonna give you an accurate reflection of your body ph. Any other time of the day after you've eaten, it's not accurate because your mouth changes your PH after eating.

0:10:29 - (Stephen Heuer): So that's the most accurate time window to reflect what's going on in your body. And so that should be 7.5 based on a book called the Calcium Factor by Bob Barefoot and Carl Reich. Carl Reich was basically a medical doctor that had a nutritional practice that basically showed that in his 20 year nutritional medical practice he saw that people's PH was controlling their health. And if he brought their saliva ph back to 7.5,

0:10:53 - (Stephen Heuer): condition would either go away or improve dramatically. Anyways that if you get your PH in the morning to 7.5 by doing 1 tablespoon of lime water twice a day, then you stay there. But if it's still acid below 7, if it's 6.9 or lower, then you gotta keep on increasing the amount till you get to probably 2 tablespoons twice a day.

0:11:10 - (Josh Bellieu): Man.

0:11:11 - (Stephen Heuer): And then, and then that, then if you're alkaline, then the atomic calcium will work or the ionic calcium will work. If you're not alkaline, ionic calcium supplementation will be used from physical acid neutralization to raise PH to more alkaline state and it won't go towards born bone.

0:11:26 - (Josh Bellieu): Wow. You know, I'm just so glad we rewound the tape and went back over that because so many people are missing this true PH factor thing as it relates to absorption of calcium, other minerals, and putting the body into a place where it's not progressing into this fungal overgrowth cycle that we know plagues everybody practically in the Western world. Now, Stephen, let's get practical for a second about sunlight and then also supplementation with vitamin D and some of the different things out there. How does this factor into a practical and simple way somebody can. I mean, I'm learning so much about sunlight right now that I don't think in 20 lifetimes any of us are going to figure out what's really going on in our body as we expose ourselves to natural sunlight. Because it seems to me it's in the trillions of different triggering responses that are happening in the body when we expose ourselves to sunlight. But talk a little bit about sunlight, fresh air, maybe grounding, and then vitamin D and how that works in Steven's world.

0:12:38 - (Stephen Heuer): Well, sunlight is kind of hard to access in the winter, but when you can access it, you know, you're going to get electron donation, you're going to get photons, and those photons are going to actually may help your mitochondria to do the electron transport chain and produce energy.

0:12:51 - (Josh Bellieu): Exactly.

0:12:51 - (Stephen Heuer): And the falling down of your mitochondria to not produce energy optimally and go into an anaerobic phase makes tumor cells. So sunlight's anti cancer. And then the vitamin D production, of course, that vitamin D makes antimicrobial peptide. So it's conducive to killing the pathogens that your body might be exposed to or dealing with. And it also makes vitamin D also causes your GI tract to produce calcium binding proteins in the small intestines, so you absorb calcium more readily into the gut, into the bloodstream. However, that vitamin D doesn't cause bone formation. In fact, vitamin D causes bone dissolution.

0:13:20 - (Stephen Heuer): So vitamin A and vitamin D, you'll find, are paired in nature. Like they're in the fat of animal tissues, they're in the egg yolks together, they're in cod liver oil together. And if the animal was fed on grass and it's, you know, butter, it's going to have K2 in it. And so, you know, in, in a healthy human GI tract, you're going to convert some vitamin K1 in the greens you eat into K2 and the K2 is going to be Menaquinone 4, not Menaquinone 7.

0:13:44 - (Stephen Heuer): Menaquinone 7 work as readily in the body to produce bone formation as MenaquinOne4. You can do that. You can research this. I've got the paperwork on it where they've done studies and they found that in the placenta of a developing baby, once the baby's born, the placenta, if you analyze it, only has minoclonone 4 in it. It doesn't allow for vitamin minoclonal 7.

0:14:02 - (Josh Bellieu): Okay. And just, just for those of you listening who've been looking at the health food store shelf and been on Amazon and everywhere else, he's saying you're looking for MK7 or MK4. And Stephen is advocate, based on some very empirical data, even as it relates to babies, that MK4 is what is present. And so vitamin D, MK is what you're going for, not MK7, according to you, Steven?

0:14:32 - (Stephen Heuer): Yeah, yeah. And because people have reversed bone loss with just things like this really good emu oil. So emu oil from the ostrich bird out of Australia concentrates vitamins a, d and k2 in its fat, and the k2 is minaquinone4. And then when a person's taking that, some people are reverse osteoporosis, just taking that and not ionic calcium. So I carry this, you know, emu oil because it's got these three vitamins that work together, and the A and the D act to dissolve bone because you have to dissolve old bone to make new bone, otherwise the bones become brittle. And that's the problem with bisphosphonates, because bisphosphonates kill the actual cells called the osteoclasts. The osteoclasts dissolve old bone, and if those cells are killed, then the don't get reabsorbed and they remain the same old bones. And over two years time, that becomes fragile and subject to fracture.

0:15:20 - (Stephen Heuer): So it's not the answer for people out there that you know are bisphosphonates or something like that. Instead, you can do this naturally. You can do it with walkabout emu oil, which is the brand that I know of in the US it's the only one I think is in the US and then there's also this good fat in it called carbon 15 or C15, that makes your cell membranes strong so that your brain cell membranes become stronger. So it's very conducive to brain health, cellular health.

0:15:42 - (Stephen Heuer): Plus it's got all the fats for the brain. So Some people have partially reversed Parkinson's emu oil. But basically child development if a person's still in the reproductive year, so they're gonna have children taking this prior to conception. During gestation, make sure that the child's jawbone develops to full width. There's no crowded teeth, there's a wider jawbone, a larger skull, bigger brain.

0:16:01 - (Stephen Heuer): It's all skeletal development, that particular vitamin. So the K2As MK4 activates the body to produce Matrix GLA protein. Matrix GLA protein activates the creation of new bone. So it's very much super catalyst to synergize with ionic calcium supplementation. And I have like on the website that you've already said the getbonesofsteel.com I have three packages and the whole educational piece that goes into all the details so that a person can understand this intellectually and feel like it's worth their investment.

0:16:31 - (Stephen Heuer): And there's the first package, foundational second package, which is more advanced. Third package which is more advanced that it deals with the gut microbiome and everything. And so that a person wants to heal their bones the quickest and their gums and everything. So you're actually preventing the loss of your teeth as you get older and keeping your gums healthy by doing this because the number one cause of gum recession is osteoporosis of the jawbone.

0:16:52 - (Josh Bellieu): Yeah. I love the fact that when you put things together, Stephen, you take real deep dives, you do peripheral research around things as well, and then you really try to put things together that are going to address a variety of different things surrounding that particular issue. You didn't know this about me, Steve, and most of our listeners don't know this either. And at one time I was a minority partner in a two person startup that got absolutely mind blowingly huge in the United States.

0:17:27 - (Josh Bellieu): And guess what the core magic ingredient in our product was? It was MU Oil. I was just sharing with someone the other day the miracles I used to see not only with the topical use of Emmoil, but people taking it internally that had everything from horrifying nerve damage from automobile accidents to on and on. And I don't make any money from Mu oil, so I can say these things observationally, but. And I do happen to actually know a guy that does brilliant job of processing Mu Oil here in the United States. You and I can talk about that off camera because there are some other great sources, Steven.

0:18:05 - (Josh Bellieu): But the thing that was really fun, the little fun trail I'll go down for a second is we were so big in this company. And it was during a time when the whole MU market had dropped. We went over to Tanzania, we went over to Tasmania, to New Zealand and to Australia and we made deals with all the farmers and bought up every single amount of MU oil that they actually had. So at one point in time, Josh Bellew and friends controlled the world market on MU oil. Like that's really a, like that's really a valuable thing to know anyway, but I love MU oil.

0:18:41 - (Josh Bellieu): I love it as a transdermal agent. I love it as an internal agent. I saw it do miracles for people. So I think it's so cool you brought that up because you, you, you taught me some things I didn't know about MUL today as it relates to this old MK4 equation.

0:18:55 - (Stephen Heuer): Right, that's nature's richest source of MK.

0:18:59 - (Josh Bellieu): Yeah. And again, you also mentioned the brain equation with mul. That's really cool. That's really cool. Well, listen, you're listening to Ultralife Today. You're really listening to a guy named Steven Hewer of Synergistic nutrition. Go to synergistic nutrition.com Guess what? You can actually talk to this guy like I am today for 20 minutes free of charge. You can tell he takes deep dives into things and he doesn't just go, oh sure, take this pill or that pill or take this supplement or that supplement.

0:19:32 - (Josh Bellieu): He really is a brilliant, self taught guy. I really appreciate him. Steven Hewer, synergisticnutrition.com But are you chasing this bone density osteoporosis trail? Go to get bones of steel.com who can't remember that website. This is Josh Bellew, Ultra Life Today. Listen, we love the way you're helping us grow this podcast. You can find us wherever you like podcasts. If you think what we're bringing you is relevant, the greatest favor you can do for us is like subscribe, share with other people.

0:20:05 - (Josh Bellieu): Other people need to hear what Steven Hewer has to say. Now we're going to move into a third component. You saw us start off and I brought up progressive resistance training. I'm a huge believer in that. Stephen made a big point and that lives in the world of Ultra Botanica. Here we help individuals that are struggling with the aging process and having mobility issues. With our unique technology. We get people moving again, Steven, so that they can actually walk, so that they can actually begin to do mild progressive training.

0:20:38 - (Josh Bellieu): That's another really cool factor. We'll talk a bit about that in episode three. Steven Hewer, synergisticnutrition.com Get bones of steel. We will be back for another episode with Stephen Hewer.