How To Shift Your Energy And Stop Repeating Painful Patterns

Your life can look “fine” on the outside while your inner world runs on panic, people-pleasing, and old survival scripts. We talk with healing coach and mentor Birgita Visser about what self-love actually means when you’re triggered, exhausted, and tired of repeating the same relationship patterns with new faces.

We dig into mindset and energy in a practical way: how negative self-talk becomes a loop, why awareness is the first step, and how gratitude can shift your emotional state without denying the hard stuff. Birgita shares how trauma and conditioning shape what we attract, why dysfunctional relationships can feel familiar, and what changes when we stop trying to “fix” other people and start filling our own cup first. If you’re navigating healing in midlife, asking big purpose questions, or looking for tools like mindfulness, meditation, Reiki, or even light language, you’ll hear options to explore and a reminder to choose what aligns with your spirit.

We also get honest about burnout and the leap of faith it takes to build a life that fits, plus how teachings on manifestation and heart-centered feeling can support real change. Subscribe for more conversations on life, love, friendship, and healing, then share this with someone who needs it and leave us a review. What’s one pattern you’re ready to end for good?

Check out Birgitta's website if you want to learn more about Light Language work and spiritual practice 

https://www.powersoulhealing.com/

Transcript

Welcome And Meet The Healer

SPEAKER_00 0:01

You're listening to Diva Tonight with Carleen Humphrey, a relationship podcast with a focus on life, love, and friendship. Welcome to Diva Tonight.

Carlene 0:12

Hi, I'm Carleen, and this is Diva Tonight. I have with me the lovely Birgita Visser. She is a healing coach. She's a mentor. She is very talented. I mean, I looked at all your credentials, Birgita, and I don't think it's possible to say all of them because there's so many. Like, I mean, Reiki Master, uh, emotional freedom technique, quantum touch healing, light language healing. Like the list goes on. So I think when it comes to healing and energy work and soul work, you have done a lot of work in that area. Yes, I have. Indeed. So

Loving Yourself Without Proving Anything

Carlene 1:02

I feel like the one thing I want to ask right up front, you say that we have to be happy with ourselves, love ourselves. And that's a strong message that you continue to say. I've heard in a few interviews that you've done with other podcasters. And so what I want to ask you is what does that mean? Like loving yourself. Yeah, it's a tough one, isn't it?

SPEAKER_03 1:26

Mm-hmm. So my my dad always used to say, and we had this little chick up on the wall, a little like a little duckling. Not a chick, a little duckling on the wall. And it said, start the day with a smile. But my dad taught my sister and I before he crossed over in 1988, because he was 44. He he did say to us, like, stand in front of the mirror and tell yours tell yourself that you love yourself. And I was like, what the heck, man? You know, because that's that's really tough. But I think it's through our experiences that we learn, we learn to uh return to that love for ourselves because we don't. We like to give, we like to pour our cup, right? Even though we we are so conditioned that we don't really understand what unconditional love is anymore. We are born with unconditional love, we're born pure, but through society and the programming and conditioning, we kind of lose we we lose our way and we don't really understand what it means to love ourselves. We think it's you know, it's it's that we have to value others, you know, show our worth, have to prove ourselves. It's it's got nothing to do with that. It's really just accepting yourself, embracing your flaws, and saying, you know what, I love me. And it's something that I had to learn through all the dysfunctional relationships I've had. I don't even know what the heck a normal relationship is, right? I had to learn to love myself. And so I was given all these dysfunctional relationships just to show it. I mean, these were experiences, right? And I always say this, Carleen. The experiences that we uh that we get are meant to help us elevate our awareness and uh are meant to help us understand what life is all about. They're not here to taunt us. Yeah, so you have to understand, you know, uh ask yourself, what is this teaching me? Yeah, why is this happening for me, not to me? There's a big difference. So yeah, loving yourself is just embracing who you are in this very moment. Yeah. And we all have to heal from pain, from trauma, from from anything. And so if we don't heal, then we remain in that vibration, yeah, and then we attract we attract exactly uh what we throw out into in into the universe, so to say. And I always say this we are sacred geometrical beings consisting of energy, which equates to frequency. So what you vibe out is what you reel back in. Yeah, yeah. And if you don't like it, then you need to shift your consciousness, consciousness. Yeah. It's like in quantum mechanics, they say change your thinking, change your life.

Carlene 4:14

Yes, it's all about the mindset. And so Yeah, I've done I've done some mindfulness. I've taken uh three workshops. The last one was on self-compassion. And I think when you when you take something, a course a workshop like that, I learned that there are still things that trigger me, and I guess it's that negative self-talk that I have in my head. And so I like you say, self-love, it's like we are our own biggest critic. And so it's no one else but like the thoughts in our head. And so changing the thoughts too is a process in itself, and like learning to do that, because I think um when you say self-love, that's that's where it stems from. And so, like when I was taking it, I was like, wow, I can be really sensitive, you know what I mean? And um, there's certain things that are still triggers, I guess, in in my mind. And I probably always think, like, I'll give you an example. Like, if uh my manager calls me into the office when I'm at work, I automatically think, oh no, what did I do now? Like, you know what I mean? And I'm never thinking that it's like something like that I asked for, like paperwork or something along those lines. It's always going to that place. And so I think sometimes I have to think about that. But it's

Mindfulness And Rewriting Self Talk

Carlene 5:34

it's a what is it called? It's a it's a practice. So you're talking about the the energy, and I think that is probably really important to talk about for the community that's listening, whoever's listening to this. And and so with energy, how do you change the energy if you have like like a negative, like you're having like a really challenging time in life? Like, you know?

SPEAKER_03 5:57

Yeah.

Carlene 5:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 5:58

Again, I've had to learn that too because we get so stuck in our drama. It's like we we think we're the victims.

SPEAKER_02 6:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 6:07

Yeah. The more challenging experiences you have, the more you the more you just need to analyze and think, hey, why is this person triggering me? Or why is this experience happening for me? Yeah. And I always say, and I, you know, I work with the many of the Sended Masters, but it's always just take, just be grateful. Just, you know, gratitude is so important. And you may think, so do you, man. This is not fun for me. And it challenging experiences aren't any fun, but it's like you need to just take a pause and breathe and say, okay, how can I change this? What can I do? Yeah, rather than going back into that default programming. And that's something you have to learn, you have to become aware. So it's like you with your triggers, right? You are aware of it. That's the first thing. Become aware. And when you talk about mindfulness, you know the saying, right? Rather than having your mind full, be mindful. Yeah. But it's really key to become aware. And it's been a process for me. It's been a massive healing journey for me. But now, you know, my experience is yeah, okay. You know, I don't huff and puff like the big bad wolf anymore. Because what is the point? Right? When you puff, huff and puff like the big bad wolf. Oh my god, why is this happening? Why, why, why, why can't I be happy? That's like what exactly exactly as you said, it's the negative community in your head that's taking over, right? And you need to kick them out. So, whatever suffering, whatever pain you're going through, whatever trauma, you can overcome it. Yeah, it's one step at a time, one breath at a time, one day at a time.

Carlene 7:43

Do you do you have people who are skeptical, skeptical about this way of thinking or this belief system?

SPEAKER_03 7:51

We can't always we we can't all vibe on the same level of consciousness, can we? But and that's the beauty, then we come into duality. Yeah, because this world is all about duality. Yeah, light versus darkness, uh, rain versus sunshine, you name it, or sun, uh sunshine and darkness. So it's all about polar opposites, and that's how we learn. That's how we learn from our experiences. And I always say it's not really good or bad, you know, experiences are just that. So, yeah, and when we overcome them, it's almost like peeling back a layer, like an onion, onion layer, right? We cry and then we heal up, and then we go to the next, next experience and so forth. And the more we understand our experiences, the easier it becomes.

Carlene 8:39

Yeah, that goes well into my next question. So, like the the series that I've started, I started this series with women, uh, with the focus of women in their 40s, because I'm at this chapter in my life, and I feel like this is the turning point where you start to think about things in a different way, or like, you know, where you are in your life. And so the one interesting question you've probably answered many times is why are we here? What's the purpose of life? I think you start to think those things over at this stage of life.

SPEAKER_03 9:14

We're here to return home to ourselves. It's really about,

Gratitude And Shifting Your Vibration

SPEAKER_03 9:18

oh, there's so there's so many answers to that question in 10 different ways. But um for for me, and and I always say this to people, you're here to return to that love for yourselves and each, you know, not just yourself, but each other. And that's something that the Master Saint Germain always tells me, right? It's returning to that love. And when you do that, when you heal, it's like you inspire other people to do the same. And when that happens, it's like the vibration frequency rises, but also Planet Orth is alive, it's a conscious being, it's got chakras. Yeah. People think it's just I mean, she thinks, she breathes, she absorbs everything. Limey, she also absorbs our trauma and then recycles it. Yeah, and and people don't seem to be aware of that. But so the more people awaken, the more the vibration rises, the collective vibration, the collective consciousness. And what is my purpose? Oh, what is my purpose? Well, here's my response to that. Whatever you do in life has purpose. Everything you do in life has purpose. Well, when you go and speak to a friend, that has purpose. When you empty the trash bin, that has purpose. Um so when people ask me, what you know, what's your purpose? Well, everything that I do has purpose. So everything that you do has purpose. Yeah, don't think that what you do is insignificant because it's not. You are worthy, you carry value. Yeah, and I always say to people, don't think so little of yourself because you are far more capable than you've been led

Skepticism Duality And Why We Are Here

SPEAKER_03 11:00

to believe.

Carlene 11:01

Yeah, that's very interesting. So I think I always ask, it's I always say it's not where you're going. It's important where you're going, but it's important to know where you came from. And so it seems to me that from your father, he's instilled a certain mindset, even though he passed away very young. What about your mother? She's still alive. Yeah. So I mean, like, yeah, no, I'm not saying it in that way. I meant like in terms of what your mother, like your father instilled in you, or versus your mother, or you know. Two different uh ends of the spectrum.

SPEAKER_03 11:34

My father was very spiritual. My mother believes in mediumship, that's where the bug stops. Yeah, she doesn't I mean, yeah. I mean, I love my mom regardless. What I mean, she doesn't believe what I do, and that's okay, you know.

Carlene 11:48

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:49

I've accepted that. Well, I'm not everyone's cup of tea. I always say, you know what? I'm like Marmite. Either love me or hate me or treat me indifferently, leave me on the shelf. Doesn't bother me. Uh I still love you anyway. But yeah, so my mom is very grounded, very earthly. On the one hand, that's also been good for me because she's got that survival instinct. Even though, you know, we shouldn't be surviving, we should be thriving. But it's gotten me through a lot, a lot of trauma because I never, never I did cry, but I would always put on my big girl pants and just get on with it. Yeah, and just soldier ill, soldier on. But I often kept my demons at bay. Oh, by working so much and not eating, right? Running on adrenaline. But that was me. That was my coping mechanism. But yeah, they they're both two ends of the spectrum.

Carlene 12:44

Yeah, you know, it's interesting you say that because I think, well, I it's not I think, I know we relate in many ways, because I grew up in a very dysfunctional household. And so like you, I think I'm pretty resilient. And so my dad, I feel my dad is more level-headed than my mom. My mom was, I don't know, she changed her mind a lot. She was, but she was also very religious, supposedly. But we changed churches so many times. The one church I liked, we moved from that one because she didn't like it, and then we went to another. And then it just after five or six churches later, I'm like, I'm gonna work on Sunday now because I don't want to go to the church. Like, I'm still over this. And I and I was this kid that would question everything she said about religion, where it was like, she's like, spare the rod and spoil the child. And I'm like, I think you're taking this out of context because it's only it says that there, but it also says this, you know. I was that kid, you know what I mean? You know, just like well, just question everything. You know, yeah, I feel like I I I did I did do that, and I think I drove her nuts, you know, and because like not that I didn't believe the things that were written in the Bible, I find like people use it to justify their behavior. Yes, yeah, so yeah,

Family Conditioning Religion And Spirituality

Carlene 14:07

right?

SPEAKER_03 14:08

Yeah, there is, I will say this. There is when I was in India, Shishri Ravishankar, the the founder of the Art of Living Center, said this, right? Religion is the outer skin of the banana, the peel. Spirituality is the fruit itself.

Carlene 14:23

Yeah, those are very deep words for sure. Definitely. I think I think I think they go hand in hand. I find like with with belief and like you know, with for me, I've I've done a lot of meditation with um what's his name? Uh I like Deepak Chopra. I listen to a lot of his stuff, and then um John Kabatzin. Yeah, that's I mean, that's what I learned when I did my first mindful practice. But maybe I'll I'll show you the book after. But yeah, I I I learned a lot from from him. And but there's a lot of people that, you know, teach mindfulness and meditation, obviously. So yeah.

SPEAKER_03 14:59

Yeah, yes. I like Joe Dispenza because of the manifest he he talks a lot about manifestation and rather than visualizing it in our mind, it's really feeling it in our heart center. As I always say, you know, in the 1980s, even early 1990s, we used to live from our heart space. Now with all this technology, very so much absorbed within the within their technologies. And yeah, that's kind of just kind of just like closed off. But when you really feel something in your heart space and you feel like you already have it, that's how you manifest because what's the energy again, right? It changes.

SPEAKER_00 15:40

Diva tonight, glamour for your ears.

Carlene 15:43

There's so many references with energy. I find I'm pretty sure you can understand this or relate. I find like when I'm having a great day, like your energy is great, and like certain things don't affect you the same way, but like if you're tired or your days off, like everything hits you a little bit harder. And I I've always been that person that sees things, tries to see things in a positive way, but I think your environment kind of like takes that away. When I say this, like when you have good days at work or not so good days, and you're just like, oh, or like changes happening at work that that just make your day like a little bit more challenging and stuff. But what I wanted to ask you, based on what you just said, is you were talking about

Trauma Patterns And Dysfunctional Love

Carlene 16:25

dysfunctional relationships earlier. Why do we attract dysfunctional relationships? Is there a reason?

SPEAKER_03 16:31

I mean, one, you know, we got a soul contract out there, but then we're born in essence. And then it's like, well, we're born, and it's like we forget, right? We grow up, we forget, and it's like, why the hell am I here? What am I doing? And it's like, but I didn't ask for this, but actually you did. Some experiences you've signed up for, and some are really, really tough. Um I mean, I signed up for my experiences, wouldn't have it any different way? Absolutely not. So um, yeah, wait, what was the question exactly?

Carlene 17:03

Yeah, why do we want to yeah, no, it's it's it's all the it's it's crazy. Before we why do we ask for yes, why do we attract it? Attract dysfunctional like some people are like I did, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:17

Well, and often there's so we ask for them, one, two, it runs through our ancestral lineage. So when we're when we're in the womb, right? We carry whatever trauma is goes back through our lineage, our ancestral lineage, yeah, because the emotions go into that unborn baby, so to speak. So we carry that. If there's trauma in the lineage, we carry that. And so when I was growing up and I was, you know, molested as a kid by by a friend of the family or business my my dad's business partner, I carried that with me. And I didn't tell my mom until I was 19 because that the 1980s were a different era and I didn't understand it. And so I carried that with me. Then I was bullied in high school uh because I was really skinny and I I really walked like the hunchback of Notre Dame because I just wanted to be invisible, right? I had this immense fear of boys, and I remember this kid, uh we went to the to the to the Belgian Ardennes, which is our forest for for a school trip. And this kid grabbed my arm and he's like to everybody in front of us, look how skinny she is. It was just horrible. Um, so it you know, high school was really tough for me. If I needed to walk to a classroom and there was a guy in the hallway, oh, you bet you bottom dollars, I would try and find another route to the classroom. But that that's just the way that I was wired, and I didn't start healing until later in life. So, you know, it was really weird. And I, you know, in this day and age, you uh it's uh completely different. But the first guy that I went out with, I mean, it was 20, 20, I think it was about 21. So I was a late bloomer. You know, it was really weird. I mean, I kissed the guy and I was like, oh my god, oh my god, now I can't break up with him. Yeah, that was really twisted in my in my mind. Why did you think that? Oh, you why didn't it be like a breath? Oh I just didn't understand. I had no clue about relationships. And um it took me many, many years, and that's why because I didn't heal, you know, and my my stepdad passed away when I was 25, and my mom needed me, so she was leaning on me, and then I had these so-called friends, and I rolled into drugs for a couple of months, had blackouts, and it was it was pretty, pretty bad one night. I think I took like five or six E's, and uh, I could have lost my life, but um, I didn't. Uh and I went cold turkey after that. But you know, I was always wearing a mask because if I wanted to talk about my stepdad, they would change the subject. And I thought, okay, let's just put on my happy face, right? So I didn't really have an outlet, so I mean I rolled into that. I had to, you know, experience that. And even I, you know, I tried my tried my luck in the modeling world. Uh, but I wasn't as thick skinned and I was assaulted there too. I mean, I worked, uh I mean, I was in New York, I was bartending, I was doing promotional stuff, you know, some jobs, but I found them on Craigslist. And this was back in the 90s, you know, early 2000s. So, you know, but I just kept going and I soldiered on and I was very in these dysfunctional relationships as well. I was like, well, why are they calling me? What did I do wrong? You know, and I was helping them. Oh my gosh, I was helping them. I was really walking to the ends of the earth for them. And I think, you know, in 2009 I really hit rock bottom, so to speak, because my ex was a part-time crack addict, and I, in a way, I enabled him, you know, because I I take response full responsibility for that. Yeah, we need to let others walk their own journey. Do we do that? Or of course not. We try when we're with somebody, we try and mold them and make them to our own liking, rather than leaving them in their own whorf and letting them walk their own journey. And it's something that I really needed to learn. And so he landed in bed with the Dutch Crips. And um I I I mean, I did try and get him into to rehab, but he was a US citizen, so it was really tough. And um, yeah, he stole from the Crips and they held him for ransom. Anyhow, sure, you know, uh I mean I helped the cops. My mom got me out of the out of Holland in the space of several days, and you know, I had a I had a place in in in the UK. And so yeah, several days later, I mean, as I said, I helped the police, they found my ex and they deported him back to the US. So the leader of the Crips said to me, If I ever find you, I'm gonna kill you. And so that really shook me. And you know, I mean, I always say this. It was a really lame attempt at my own life because I took a whole box of ibuprofen. Yeah, I just slept like 12 hours, but then I got up the next day and I really thought, yeah, but I can't go on like this anymore. You know, this constant panic, this constant anxiety, this constant In fight or flight mode, is that any way of living? No, absolutely. You know, Carlin, I I asked for that experience, yeah, because I needed to wake up and smell smell the roses, so to speak. So I needed to hit rock bottom. That wasn't the last time I hit rock bottom, but when I went to see a counselor,

Rock Bottom Boundaries And Forgiveness

SPEAKER_03 22:20

right, she said, You'll be fine, you're strong enough. And I thought, this is not helping me. And so I started researching Reiki. And that's how I, you know, I I I started walking the holistic route. And then I studied Reiki and I studied more modalities. And again, that was peeling back a layer. And if you think, oh my gosh, I was fine after that, no, I wasn't, because I met another person, just packaged differently, right? And my guys were up there, oh, let's see what Brigitte is going to do. Well, what did I do? Well, I fell flat on my face because this was another one that I had to walk through the ends of the earth up. It was really like, you know, I I I had to pay the bills, try to find jobs, got groceries, was trying to help them in every which way I could. But in the meantime, what we do is we put ourselves in the boxing ring, right? Because we don't think we're worthy. Yeah. We we don't think we carry that value, and we need to prove ourselves just to get that love in return because we're trying to fill that void within rather than filling our own cup first. So I really had to learn along the way. And the one from from Holland, uh, I mean, I 2024 in June, he came and visited me in Spain after 15 years, right? I hadn't seen him in 15 years. And oh, my guides were there, oh, having the popcorn out. Oh, look what's happening here. Well, that was a heightened experience. It was horrific. I mean, he was a narcissist, so after three weeks I had to kick him out, even get the police involved, but it was horrendous. And I looked back and I was like, I understand why this happened. Yeah. Because I needed to shut the door on the what ifs, and I shut the door completely. And then I went on a healing journey. So these are just a few examples, right? So we ask for these experiences, yeah. And the more challenging they are, the more you have the potential to understand why this is happening for you and how you can heal how you how you heal from that is entirely up to you because whatever healing you choose, it has to align with your spirit.

Carlene 24:29

Oh, yeah, definitely. Yep. I'm listening to you and just you know, understanding the the trauma, like when you have trauma, unresolved trauma, or like you've healed from it, and then there's certain things that you haven't completely healed from. So I understand the whole thing.

SPEAKER_03 24:47

That's why it's like a spiral. Yeah. It's like a spiral. And sometimes we revisit experiences, but we go deeper.

Carlene 24:54

Yeah. Winston Churchill, you quote you quote things, but I always to quote, you know, if you're going through hell, keep going, you know, and eventually you'll get out of it. And I think, like you said, you you you've had this this really chaotic journey, but I think you've learned a lot from it. And it I'm glad that you know you persevered because here you are to share your story to help someone. And I hope that, you know, with you sharing your story that it helps someone. Because that's that's what I believe is is important in life that we're we're always learning from past experiences, you know? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:33

Yes. And you know, the most important thing is I mean, it's important to forgive yourself, right? Oh, yeah. We are human, you didn't know any better.

Carlene 25:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:43

Yeah. And I've learned to forgive the other person as well. So all the characters in my life that have been and gone, I have learned to forgive them because what is the point of carrying that bitterness within you? Yeah. You only carry that create that that distorted energy, and it's gonna come out in some way, form, shape, or another because you keep it pent up, you keep it locked in the archives of your mind, so to speak. And when a certain experience happens and it's not healed, and then you get triggered. Yeah. And it's not just in the archives of our mind, it gets stuck in our in the cells, uh, the memory cells of our body. So it gets stuck somewhere. That's why we're not just this organic blob, everything is sacred geometry, everything is energy. Yeah. When we shift that perspective, then we start to understand ourselves better. It's like, hey, come on, I'm I'm my own Merlin. Yeah? My own Merlin. So I weave the magic that I feel without the magic within, I weave with without. So if it's crappy magic and uh the recipe is not right, yeah, you're gonna you're gonna create something very distorted.

Carlene 26:52

I like the reference to Merlin. Haven't heard that in a long time, but I know. King Arthur in the table and Merlin the magician. Oh my god. Yeah, yeah. You know, the whole thing that I that I like on your website is that the one photo you have, it shows who you are. Like, I mean, obviously you're a very happy, you're lucky person, and like the energy is there. So I think the one thing? No, this is that under a tree? No, you say what I want for you and you're you're like this.

SPEAKER_03 27:26

Oh, that one. Yes, I know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Carlene 27:29

Yeah. And so, I mean, I read that and it's it's very profound. So I think in a lot of ways, if if you know someone wants to work with you, I think there's many things that you do. And so I've I've I listened to one of the practices that you did, and I and I feel like you were in my head because I was like, what is she saying? And then you translate it to exactly you're just like, Yes. I was like, she knew, right? What is what are you saying? But yeah, I feel like there's was that Reiki? I'm not sure.

Reiki Light Language And The Power Of Words

SPEAKER_03 28:00

No, it's light language.

Carlene 28:01

Oh, light language.

SPEAKER_03 28:02

I'm happy to do a demo if you want, but um uh it's it's been changing because I've had so many downloads, and I'm I'm not uh you know, I I will do more videos once I move in the next couple of weeks because I'm right by the ocean. But uh light language is something that and I always say this to people, right? So again, do whatever aligns with your own spirit, right? It's the the uh it's the um cosmic frequency of love, right? Cosmic language of love. And on a on a conscience level, it's like what the hell? Like you just said, what the hell is she saying, right? But when you close your eyes and just allow the codes to be absorbed within your being and in your heart, then know that your soul understands these light codes just beautifully, and that's what it's about. It's an ancient healing technique. I mean, just like Reiki. I mean, Reiki, as you know, that's a uh universal healing, whether that's hands-on or a distance. And that's that's that's what I started with. But every time I study the healing modality, I was also healing myself. I was also peeling back the layers, and that's so that's just the beauty of life. And yeah, so but light language is something I'm I'm humbled uh to be able to help other people and inspire other people that way, you know, and help them on their own journey. I've had people come to me twice and they were fine after that. Um so it's not something, you know, you you continue doing. I I mean, if we talk about, and and this is especially in you know in quantum mechanics, when people go to AA, for instance, right? Yeah, uh or NA, they stand there and they say, My name is so and so, I am uh a recovering, well, I'm an addict or a recovering alcoholic. But you keep your mind, it's like, oh wait, I'm recovering. I'm I'm an alcoholic. Okay, great, you know. And your mind thinks, oh, we can still drink. And it's really hard because you shouldn't be saying that. And your mind listens to everything that you s that you say. It's like this uh astute librarian or this astute typist. Oh, wait, oh wait, and so that's why people keep being stuck in that loop. It's like Groundhog Day.

Carlene 30:17

Mm-hmm. Definitely.

SPEAKER_03 30:18

Bill Murray Groundhog, you know? That was a great movie, by the way. I am not going to knock it, right? It works for some people. I mean, this program works for some people, and and and and that's great, but it's just like your mind is actively listening to what you're saying.

Carlene 30:37

Yeah. Well, the thing is, I think meditation, mindfulness work, helps my mind because I have a very scattered mind. So it's good for the arts, the creative side, you know, but when it's like things that you have to do, like your daily tasks and daily chores, it makes it so much more challenging. But I think energy work is is great work, and I think it, yeah, not everyone is it's not for everyone, but I I do understand the reason for it and why it helps. Because when when everything is crazy, like in this digital age that we're living in, you kind of want to have a little bit of calm, right? Definitely. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And so I know that you are online, right? You have your website where if anyone would like to work with you, they can. One more thing, though, because this show is targeted for women over 40. I mean, between 35 and 44, what do you think? 52. You are? I would have been guessed. Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_03 31:43

Yeah, I'm 52 in June, but I I that's the thing, right? Oh my god. And I will tell you, because meditation does help. It's so profound. It does, it really does. And and it's not just that, it's it's diet as well, but you, you know, and and and and and the gym. But you know, my dad always used to say your body is a temple, treat it as such, yeah. So if you fill it up with junk, yeah, it's gonna erode very, very quickly.

Carlene 32:10

Your dad is quoting from the Bible.

SPEAKER_03 32:14

But not just that, right? Yeah, if we don't feel our trauma, it's the same thing, it comes out as a dis-ease within our bodies, somewhere, in some way, form, shape, or another.

Carlene 32:25

Yeah, stress is a killer, as they say. So yeah, no, but it's true, like mind, body, and soul, right? That just threw me for a loop there when you said how I was like, what? Oh my gosh, the year is 2026, and oh my goodness. So, like, do you plan to retire at 65? I mean, you don't even look at wow, I'm just

Burnout Manifestation And Taking The Leap

Carlene 32:44

blown away.

SPEAKER_03 32:45

Thanks. You know, I am um, you know, I've I've at work because I suffered from burnout. I mean, in 2023, I worked 17 months. Last year was 16 months, and I collapsed after my mama was so tired in December. Yeah. And I just said I can't continue doing this anymore because I I really want to do my spiritual work. And you know, it's like sometimes we don't dare to take that leap of faith. And I was like, Sot this. I'm going to invest now. Yeah, I'm going to invest in in getting proper um like through the proper PR channels. And as soon as I did that, as soon as I made that decision and I said to my manager, I want to go part-time because I cannot do both anymore. I'm burning the candle at both ends. He's like, Okay, I understand, no problem, you know. So right now they're they're um trying to fill the role. Oh, yeah. And the right people have started coming onto my path, but it's taking that decision, yeah, and not dithering. And when you believe in yourself, when you really believe in yourself and you feel it, and you're like, you know, I can feel that success, I know what I want, it does open doors. And that's why I love Joe Dispenza. I will have to listen. Yeah, listen, he's on YouTube.

Carlene 34:04

Yeah, no, Joe Dispenza. Yeah. No, the reason I was saying that is because you are probably the third person who's mentioned his name. So I'm like, Really? Yeah, my mentor, my cousin, Vanessa. Um, she also mentioned him when we were um talking too. So yeah, so yeah, obviously he's made an impact, right? Yeah, I think I've listened to maybe one or two, but not I'll I'll listen again. Yes, definitely.

SPEAKER_03 34:32

Oh, he's got so many on YouTube. You can just choose. So rather than typing in just Joe Dispenser, type in Joe Dispenser meditations. And the other one that is also good that I started out with was David G. Uh, so David J I. Oh and he does he does meditations with mantras, so getting rid of your fear or anxiety and stuff like that. Also very, very powerful. And yeah, I mean, start out with it and learn to breathe because a lot of the times we don't breathe properly. We breathe very shallow up to you know, up to here rather than all the way down to our root chakra, and then back up. And when we do that, we really oxygenate our our our bodies and our cells, and they spring back to life.

Carlene 35:20

Definitely. So many layers to miss burgita, visar. I'm gonna say this to end. I'm quoting from you. I'm here to inspire you, encouraging you to dream bigger than the limitations the world may impose. And so I say to you with this, because I'm feeling the energy that I think, like you said, when things are meant to happen, they will happen. So, where can the listener find you if they want to

Books Social Links And Listener Text Line

Carlene 35:48

check out your website or find out what other work you do?

SPEAKER_03 35:52

Yes, I have several books out. Well, my first book I'm rewriting, Becoming Authentically Me, I'm shortening it. Uh Child of the Sun on Route to Enlightenment in India became a bestseller a few weeks ago. Uh Divine Rebirth, I talk about sacred plant medicine. So after my ex, I'm sorry, I kicked my ex out, the narcissistic ex, I went on the sacred plant journey doing psilocybin, some petrocactus, and ayahuasca.

Carlene 36:19

Talk about a high achiever here. Wow, okay, a lot on the go. Wow, amazing. Yes. Well, it was such a pleasure to have you on the show. I'm Carlene, and this is Diva tonight with Birgita Visser. And you can follow her on Instagram, right? You're on social media too, right? Yes, Instagram under Universal Light Warriors. Yes. Okay, great. Um, so if you like this episode and you want to join the conversation, send me a text at divatonight.buzzprout.com. Thanks so much. Thank you. Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 37:04

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