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Baldur’s Gate 3 Co-Op First Night

Daniel Kaufmann Ph.D. | Dr. Gameology Season 6 Episode 12

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The funniest part of starting Baldur’s Gate 3 co-op wasn’t the combat. It was realizing the environment had hands. Pillars, walls, and tiny pieces of cover turned a “simple” fight into a full-on lesson in positioning, line of sight, and how different BG3 classes feel when you’re learning together in real time. We kick off our brand-new multiplayer campaign from the opening beach and talk through what it’s like to bring a first-time player into a party with people who already know the game.

From there we get practical about Baldur’s Gate 3 mechanics and Dungeons & Dragons rules: movement speed, the dash action, jumping outside combat, and why a barbarian tank can feel stuck while a sorcerer is screaming at the camera because they can’t see a target. We also get into party roles and teamwork, including the moment support play wins the encounter when damage isn’t an option. If you’re searching for BG3 co-op tips, turn-based combat basics, or a realistic take on how messy early-game multiplayer feels, you’ll hear it in the choices we make and the mistakes we admit.

Then the conversation goes deeper into character creation and avatar psychology. We break down why some of us make avatars that look like ourselves, why others build an “other” to experiment, and how utility choices like stealth, lockpicking, and party balance shape what you create. Along the way we connect Baldur’s Gate 3 to the broader Dungeons & Dragons universe in Faerûn, the Sword Coast, and the Underdark, and why that context makes the world hit harder.

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Jumping Into BG3 Co-Op

SPEAKER_02

We just played Baldur's Gate 3. Ah.

SPEAKER_01

And that's about what you sounded like too, yeah. It sounds right.

SPEAKER_04

So what I'll say is I I started the campaign and I did the intro area alone. And I landed on a beach, never playing the game before, and Doritos and Doc joined me, but they had to create a brand new character in order to join my party.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it was so fun. I created the same character twice, ten minutes apart.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, so I I made a barbarian. Shock to nobody.

SPEAKER_04

I mean sorcerer. That's a shock to nobody.

SPEAKER_01

Again, not a shock. And I ended up making a rogue this time.

SPEAKER_04

Which is not really shocking because your favorite character in Smo Tour is a sniper, which is kind of a rogue.

SPEAKER_01

It's an agent, and but this the other class for the Imperial Agent is the operative, which is a stealth class. So yeah, it's not a not a surprise there.

SPEAKER_04

But the funniest thing was for me is Doc and Doritos picked an alternate name where I just went with the default Marcus.

SPEAKER_03

Your character looks like a Marcus or Clay Thompson, so it's fine.

SPEAKER_04

For me, it was it was such a cool experience to be able to play this with them and just like it just worked. I mean, it took us what would you say? It took us probably 15 minutes to figure it all out. 10 minutes.

Classes Names And First Impressions

SPEAKER_03

The process of setting up the lobby, getting on our friends list. Yeah, there was some behind the scenes work before we got to do it. But we did get to record a one-hour session of us playing Baldur's Gate 3 starting at the very beginning of the beach, and that's really cool.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I I felt overwhelmed because you guys have played the game before. So for me, I'm running around going, okay, how do I do this? Do this, and Doc made a comment in in the process and said, I just want to find withers. And I'm thinking to myself, I'm like, who the hell is Withers?

SPEAKER_01

Well, we've we we we found somebody today, that's for sure. We found several somebodies.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Uh Shadow, Shadow Keep. No, Shadow Heart. Shadow Heart, my wife. Shadow Keep is a different game. Yeah, that's Destiny 2. And then we found Withers, which that was, I would say out of the whole experience for me, finding that guy was kind of a cool experience because I actually got to have real dialogue with them, and there was real answers, you know, like the snarky, like, dude, don't talk to me like that. Or like, hey man, I'm just a peaceful guy. Can't believe you're undead and you're talking to me. And then another one was attack. You know what I mean? I don't know if there was an attack on that guy.

SPEAKER_03

There was. You can just you can just fight him. I don't know what happens if you do that, but Marcus, I don't know how you feel about spoilers in this game, but there is a functional reason why I wanted to find withers. And I'm sorry I used his name. If I could do it over, I would have just said something more vague, like, I want to go find something behind this door. Wonder what it could be. So my bad. Well, no, I don't mean the name drop. I don't think it was a spoiler.

SPEAKER_04

I don't think so either, because when you I'm hearing Withers, I'm thinking like a door or maybe a scroll that's named Withers. Like, I had no idea what you're talking about. And you guys are going in these rooms, and you guys are it was so funny, you guys are picking all these moves and doing all these things, and I'm like, I have no idea what I'm even doing. Like, I have main attack button, lacerate, and like reckless attack.

SPEAKER_01

And you you are a barbarian that that fits the the character class.

SPEAKER_03

Marcus, you're the tank of our group, meaning that your rotation is just do whatever it takes to hold aggro. Whereas I'm the Sith Sorcerer, so I have to put Affliction and Crushing Darkness on, do a lightning strike, spam three lightning bolts, do a lightning blast, chain lightning, refresh affliction every 20 seconds. You just gotta hold aggro, and that is the dynamic that we have in our Baldur's Gate group, too. Now just peek out and shoot things and stab things.

Finding Withers And Learning Dialogue

SPEAKER_04

And and I agree with you. I am in 100% agreeance with everything you're saying, but for me, like as the barbarian in a melee class, I feel like I need like a mad dash. Like I'm only allowed to go 30 steps. I feel like a barbarian should be able to go 40 because they're supposed to be the first ones in the attack.

SPEAKER_01

So one thing about the Dungeons and Dragons universe is you gotta get in keep in mind that while you may not have a force speed or or a combat leap, if you want to close the gap quickly, you do have the dash action, which is the little across feet, the shoes with the wing on it on the icon on your that allows you that action allows you to move twice your movement speed. So if your movement speed is normally 30, you get to go 60, which now allows you to close the gap. See, I didn't. But you don't necessarily get to attack until your next turn. Right.

SPEAKER_04

I didn't know I could do that mad dash. You're gonna have to show me that because that was, I would say, the most frustrating part of my playthrough as you guys were in the fight and I was wasting my turns by moving 30 meters.

SPEAKER_03

I want to point out though, we're all very low-level characters. We don't have some of the abilities that are going to come to be how our characters are defined. You will be able to find boots that add extra feet to your stride eventually.

SPEAKER_04

Are we saying are you what you're saying is I'm gonna get rocket boots?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, if you want to call them rocket boots and have that homage to Swotor, I think that is what everyone in our audience truly wants. And you're not the only person who was being defeated by something that was incredibly stupid and made us look incompetent. My arch nemesis, the whole stream, which by the way, you can watch this on YouTube if you want to see us actually play the group content together. It was not an enemy that can attack me, it was pillars, it was walls, it was little benches and things that the enemies were behind, and I'm a sorcerer. All I want to do is throw a firebolt or two every turn, but I can't see anyone. But I did something I'm very proud of in that moment, which is different than when I'm playing alone. I put true strike on you, you killed your enemy in the next turn, and then the next turn, a pillar got me again, so I put true strike on Doritos, and he got to stealth sneak up on the last person in that mob and stab them in the neck. And I was the support character, and I have completed my own run of Baldur's Gate 3, but with all the mods, this is my first time playing on normal difficulty with no mods. And for me to have to think outside the box in our first hour and just be like, Well, I can't kill any enemies right now, but what can I do for my team that will end this encounter in one more turn?

SPEAKER_05

And I feel really good about that. I had a lot of fun.

Combat Roles And Movement Friction

SPEAKER_04

I got the total Death Star Troopers vibe from Doritos today. Because he's the Doritos is the ultimate closet leader to a raid group, and he always like it's like, oh, I'm over here, and I always beeline it the other way.

SPEAKER_01

He's like, it's true. Yeah, we're you and our students are trying to figure out how what what skills we want to add to our our our level of character and what spell slots you wanted to have, and he's off having a conversation with some guy under a rock, and we're like, Where are you? Oh, well, I mean, we know where you are. We we've we've done this part before was like, right. Well, you get to experience it on your own, and and that's fine too.

SPEAKER_03

Marcus, there was one time that brain that you talked to completely on your own and you squashed it. I'm not even kidding. There is a time where I critical failed that conversation, and the brain killed me in conversation. So critical fail for everyone who doesn't know is when you roll a d20 and you roll a one, which means the worst ending to that part of the dialogue that could possibly happen to you is now going to happen to you. So when Marcus did that conversation alone, there was a part of me that was terrified for him. But he succeeded, he didn't die. That's true, he didn't die. Also, I think that there's an interesting dichotomy in the classes we chose because for a sorcerer, even at level two, there are decisions in how you level up that affect what spells you have in your slots, and that's why I was not with the group because I thought we were all on that screen leveling up together, and maybe for five seconds we were, but barbarians are just stat improvements for level two, and that allowed Marcus's leveling up to take under 20 seconds, and mine. I don't know why, I couldn't make a decision here. I just was stuck. Like I'm a group content sorcerer now, so I was thinking to myself, I don't just need offensive spells, I need to be able to do things that make the group better. And I've never played that way before.

SPEAKER_01

Well, plus, you know, you and I've both played through you've you've cleared the game at least once. I'm into the last act of the game. So you know you're you're trying to also set yourself up going, if I take these things now, I know the progression of where it's going to need to go. And trying to go, okay, this this is a different I don't say montertainment, it is a different dynamic doing it like this as a group.

SPEAKER_05

Yes. I agree.

SPEAKER_04

It was a lot of fun. We got to fight some enemies. We I am a selfish looter. Like I want everything for myself. Like it's always like just loot all because I'm so used to like Elden Ring. But it's it's it's a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_03

You think that's a good strategy now until your character starts walking like they're carrying like seven anvils on their back? Does the game slow down? No, you do. Yeah, you get encumbered if you so we're gonna have to find vendors to try to sell them all the forks and silver goblets that you're carrying.

True Strike Support And Leveling Choices

SPEAKER_04

Okay. Great. I had a lot of fun, you guys. I'm excited. I'm excited to do it again.

SPEAKER_01

So so let me ask you this being that it was a small group, SoulTor Flash points notwithstanding, how would you rate this group content to say Destiny trying to run a fire team? Run with a fire team.

SPEAKER_04

Where this is you're going in there as a team to do something, just like Destiny, but like you enter the the the striker, even uh, let's do Star Wars in a flashpoint.

SPEAKER_05

You're starting that story of that flashpoint, and you're not finishing it. Okay.

SPEAKER_03

There are so many things that we can decide to do too. We're at the part of the game where we just have one quest, and that quest is the quest that's gonna be the entire game. It's it's basically just save the world. But there will come a time where we open our journal and we're gonna have to decide together what are we working on now? Because there's literally 50 things that we could decide to be doing right now, and that's gonna be fun because some of them are based on characters that are gonna be in our party, and we'll decide as a group, it's gonna be very obvious which characters we like and which ones we could care less about because of where their quests are at. Or are we gonna try to be completionists and do everything? I don't I don't know. I don't feel a need to save Baldur's Gate right now. I just want to enjoy the process of playing the game.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I'm having fun. It's like, hey, no, wait, go over here. Oh, wait, no, we need to go over there. What did you do? You went through the door, and now we're doing what?

SPEAKER_01

And the and the look Marcus gave you about the to to to be a completionist, that is quite the interesting response.

SPEAKER_04

It's not a chance. For me, I'm not a circle back guy. Like, okay, so to just so everybody knows, we stopped and we're at the sh the TV show Lost and we found the hatch.

SPEAKER_02

Four, eight, fifteen, sixteen, twenty-three, forty-two. Ah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

So we we stopped our playthrough at this hatch, and I feel like I can't wait to start because we're going into this hatch next. And if Doritos didn't say I want to go, I found a hatch, I would have never even known because it looked like we were at the end of the road. Like I didn't even know you could go down.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I didn't even I didn't find that my first playthrough, I didn't find that.

SPEAKER_03

So I found it. I played the opening area of this game like six times. I've never seen that hatch once.

SPEAKER_04

That's what I'm saying. And now I can't wait. Whether if whether or not we're gonna do this before the podcast every week or we find time, I think we need to find time because I would like to continue to play this and make it a thing. Because even if I don't play, and honestly, even if I don't play another character, like my own story, I would much rather do this with you guys because I'm playing the game and then I can play something else during the week, and I don't feel obligated or nor do I want to, because I feel more fulfilled playing Baldur's Gate with you guys for an hour than I do than I when I made my character and played it by myself. It was just as satisfying. But now if we're playing Baldur's Gate together, I can finish Elden Ring or play Elden Ring.

Loot Greed And Encumbrance Reality

SPEAKER_03

Heck yeah. I think because of what we did tonight, it would be really weird for me mentally to jump in. Like let's say you play three hours, and then we play again on Tuesday, and then Doritos and I still phase in and we're standing right next to you, but we don't know how you got there. You know, the conversations will affect which version of the quests you get in this game. You can be evil, you can be good, you can be selfish and just neutral. And you know, there are people that I played as if they're the bad guys in my main past playthrough. You might have those conversations and be sympathetic to them, and I zone in, it's like, let's take them out. It's like, why? They're my bestie. I'll be like, What? So I want to be there when you make those choices.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, if I if I play Baldur's Gate alone, I'm gonna play it a new character. Like that though, my that character, Marcus, is gonna stand there with you guys until we log in again and play it. Right? Like that character is is the that character sealed.

SPEAKER_01

It's a group character.

SPEAKER_04

Yes, that character is sealed to the Death Star Trooper story.

unknown

Right.

SPEAKER_01

And well, one of the things though that I've noticed about you know playing Baldur's Gate and then you know having my my on hiatus Monday night DD group and my family group on Tuesdays, because this is part of you know that universe, the one thing that is missing that you that it leaves it up based on the conversation choices, is your character's alignment. Whether it's good, neutral, evil, lawful to chaotic, that whole grid, that whole spectrum. That's what the conversation tree is for. So you get to determine each conversation tree how do you want to what what alignment do you want to choose for this conversation or as the for the character as a whole?

SPEAKER_04

That's what I'm saying, and I don't think I want to do that without you guys. I'm that character. Like I could go create a new character and start a new tune and start a playthrough by myself, but it's also like okay, so if I don't, let's and I'm playing it out in my head. But I might just because I really want to play it now. Because now I like got a taste of what it actually is, like a small taste, and I'm like, oh shit, now I want to play this game. Because I feel like it's uh it's not the same style of game as Elden Ring, but it's a game that I'm gonna be able to sink my teeth into and really dive in and do it.

SPEAKER_03

You know, it is it's a cool world, you know. So it is different than Elden Ring, but it is a fantasy world with dark elements, adult themes, and real problems that you have to solve. So I I see that. Also, all this talk about you creating another character, if you do want to keep playing, has my mindset in something that is very near and dear to my research part, which is avatar creation. All of us had to create characters recently in order to pull off this evening. And I think it would be cool tonight, since this is our intro with the audience into us playing this campaign, to talk a little bit about what we were aiming for with character creation and who our avatar is and where we're at, how that connects us to the game. Sure.

Group Questing And The Hidden Hatch

SPEAKER_01

I'll go first since I opened my mouth. So again, so I did go with a rogue, which is you know, for me is one of the two type of classes I I enjoy most. You know, going back to Sotor, we talked about it at the beginning of the this podcast, that my main is a sniper, and the other companion class to the Imperial Agent is the operative, which is a stealth class. So playing a rogue fits my playstyle for that. So I enjoy that class of play, and then as far as the the aesthetics of it, I'm had made another character very similar looking, so I kind of already knew what race I wanted to go with. I did pick a female for this one versus a male. My for my my main character I'm running through the solo campaign with is a male character, and I like some of the the customizations that Baldur's Gate has when it comes to hairstyles, hair color, highlights. Lifes of different other things that oh boy, it'd be nice to have this in some other games, but also know that's how the part of the appeal for this game is that level of character customization, yeah, and being able to add some of those personality, you know, subtle personality traits, and you know, give it you can give your character now some sort of RP level sorry, role-playing type of background story on okay, this per their hair color is this, that they like this hairstyle. Like my character, actually, if you get up close to it, I didn't went with the heterochromatic eyes. I didn't go with the same color eyes. Oh, neat. So yeah. It's it's things like that that oh man, this is this is fun. You can you can really really dive into all kinds of different various character customizations. What were you aiming for, Marcus?

SPEAKER_04

Me. You like I I connect to video games. Yeah, so I connect to like my first Swotor character was like a carbon copy of me, and I connect to my characters when it relates to myself, and for me, I like to connect to that, and it may it makes me want to play it. And I picked a barbarian because I I just feel like I always I I always gravitate towards that. I don't know why. It's always that way.

SPEAKER_03

Well, occupationally, you complete your work and your tasks through your hands and whatever tools are in them. And as opposed, and that's what your barbarian does. Your your tools are sharp things that you swing at other people's faces, but you get up into it, you do the tank thing, like all the games I've played with you, that's your function in the group dynamic. And Doritos, I think this is the first game, assuming that we keep going for a long time, where we actually are in a group together. I think we've been adjacent to each other a lot. Yeah, is that true? Yeah, like yeah, you you have played SWOTOR with a lot of people who have played a lot of SWOTOR with me, but for whatever reason, people might have thought like uh I'm Batman, you're Bruce Wayne, we've never been in the same room. Like, you can't prove you can't prove Doritos and Doc are not the same person. Um, but I'm I'm really excited to see the dynamic and role play qualities, if there are any, in how both of you play this game. You know, it was just a lot of fun this first hour of playing for me, even to start notice some of these things because our friendship is so long term, you know, in in terms of how long gaming relationships can get get really invested and then fizzle out. But the three of us have known each other for a very long time in terms of how those gaming friendships work.

SPEAKER_04

The big thing for me is you know, do I create a new character and play it my own way? Do I play other games? Because there's another gate, like there's other games that I want to play, like Metaphor Refantismo or something like that. I don't know what it's called. Refantasio. Yeah, I want to try that game.

SPEAKER_03

Such a good game.

Solo Play Concerns And Alignment Talk

SPEAKER_04

There's a couple others. I want to beat the Shadow of the Earth Tree DLC. I want I want to complete that. That's more of a personal thing. So there's other things I want to do, but now I like I I kind of want to make a new character in this Baldur's Gate, so I have a little bit more of an idea on what's going on. So when we're playing it together, I'm not like learning as we go. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, if you create another character and just did the opening areas again and tried to just get more familiar with how the menus work, you would get to the point where you're like, I don't need this other character, because now when I'm with Doc and Doritos, I know what's going on, I know what they're doing, I know what they're asking me to do. You're not gonna have that for the first 20 hours of playing the game anyway, no matter what you do, because it's a complicated game. Just like Dungeons and Dragons is a complicated game.

SPEAKER_04

Larian made another game, it was like called like Divinity Original Sins 2. Yes. Is that play like this game?

SPEAKER_03

It plays like this game, just the graphics are not as good because it's an older game, but it is it is Baldur's Gate 3.

unknown

Okay.

Avatar Creation Psychology Deep Dive

SPEAKER_03

I was just curious. You know, there's four types of avatar creation or the intention of the player when they create their avatar. And Marcus, you describe the avatar as yourself. Okay, the the goal is to create you, but in this video game world. And my first SWOTOR character was that, and I played over a year of total hours of SWOTOR as that character. My first character in Final Fantasy XIV was not that, and it was a male character, and I did not keep playing. Six months after that, I created a female character and played her, Kirier, for a massive amount of time, and that character name follows me through different games. My first Baldur's Gate character is also Kirier, and that is the name of the girlfriend character from Devil May Cry 4. For anyone who hasn't like connected the dots from all the episodes of our show, but like the I just like the name, it starts with a K. I'm Dr. K in my classroom. So like all my characters tend to have a K name. And so my character tonight is very much an avatar as an instrument or an avatar as a symbiote to me. So she's not me, but she is an extension of a lot of the things that I value in myself. So she's what would I be if I was a female? What would I be if I was in a fantasy world? I would want to be a sorcerer, I would want to be able to cast spells from afar and solve problems with cleverness, and I'd like to be able to talk myself out of situations. Those are all things that I try to do. You know, in the in the real world, there's no sorcery or magic, but I do think solving things with math and spreadsheets and psychological concepts is the closest thing we have to a bridge, a metaphor bridge to magic in our fiction. So that's what I intended to make as this character. I named her Kyla, and she's a drow. I've never played as a drow. I've always played as a half half elf before. And so that allowed me to have kind of a graying, blue, pinkish kind of skin color. My hair color is different than anything I've ever had in a video game. It's like white with teal highlights in it. And so I got to experiment with different things that I've never done in character creation before. But I think the reason I did that is because I already have the experience of playing a character that is like characters I usually play. So I wanted to step a little bit out of my comfort zone, but keep the same things that make me feel comfortable with the character. Oh, I didn't, I mean, Marcus's was easy because it's avatar as itself. Doritos, you very clearly are not your character. So, you know, there's avatar as an other, there's avatar as a symbiote, which I just described. There's avatar as an instrument, which means you don't really care about the qualities of the character. You created it because of what it can do in the function of the group. So this would be like somebody wanting to play sniper, but their group really needs a competent tank. So they just create a character to be the tank. So as far as Avatar is the symbiote, or Avatar is the other, the experimental other, which which one do you think you're trending?

SPEAKER_01

Probably as the other. I mean, it could also be as a tool because, again, the utility capability of stealth and being a dexterity-based character with lockpicking, sleight of hand, being able to do those type of actions can get into and out of situations for the group. So it's kind of a combination of two or three of the of those character types. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And Marcus, we're at a point in the game where if you were playing solo, you would be wanting to walk around the open outdoor area to find some more party members so that you have three people with you in the group for a full party of four.

SPEAKER_04

I have no idea.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Because so let me ask you a question. If I'm playing it solo, do I control the party members or do they do they do auto moves?

SPEAKER_03

You control the party members.

SPEAKER_04

So I have to learn how to do all their moves to so I can get healed.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you would you would control Shadow Heart and do the heals for the party. You would control. You met Lizelle on the ship. You would control her. She's a good melee fighter. She can be your tank, but you're the tank, so you'd probably want to use her a little bit differently, but she'd still be a great party member. And then there's about two or three people that we can recruit in the next session if we go in their direction. And then because we're a three-person party, we only need one Larian created character in our group at any time.

SPEAKER_04

Everything that you just told me about when I'm playing it solo sounds like I'm gonna die.

SPEAKER_01

Well, it's it's it's the you have your quest marker on the map, but given the fog of war, you do not know how to get from where your character is to where the marker is. So you will have to explore some and find things. Or I can see where I want to go, you know, when I if I change my camera angle for my character, I can see I want to go over there. But if you pull up your map, you got the fog of war, so you haven't gone there, so you can't just click the map and go, ah, that's where I'm going. Right. So there's there's ways to get that that you will explore to find your way around. Sure. And it's not just as easy as I get up get up and I just magically go because there may be a chasm between you and the objective, and you have to go up and around uh through a bridge or a cave or take a boat, or hold up on the D-pad and just jump.

SPEAKER_02

And I'm learning all that, right? I didn't know you could do that. There was a bridge, and all you had to do was get to the other side of this broken bridge.

SPEAKER_03

And I played for hours trying to figure out how to get to that road, and all I had to do was jump, but I didn't know as a new player that you could call up that action outside of combat.

SPEAKER_01

And all those actions go back to DD because you know, Baldur's Gate is in Faroon, so all the rule sets are based in DD rules, right?

DnD World Connections And Final CTA

SPEAKER_03

I didn't even understand that when I was playing Baldur's Gate 3, because I was in a Dungeons and Dragons campaign that we were playing on Roll 20 with the Geek Therapeutics crew, and that was a four-year campaign. Whoa. I didn't underst yeah, I didn't understand that Fey Rune was the world of DD. So when I started playing Baldur's Gate, I got to the Underdark at one point, and the Underdark is where my campaign started when I was playing DD, and I was like, Whoa, is this the same Underdark? And it it may seem to people where DD is one of their major passions, be like, Well, duh, Doc, but I'm telling you, these these concepts are so massive you don't even understand what you're standing in when you're playing them. Right.

SPEAKER_01

Right. I mean, so because again, because I'm doing the can't family campaign stuff that you know, Baldur's Gate is kind of on the southern portion of the sword coast, whereas Neverwinter, another MMO that's been out for years. Forever, isn't there the northern is well, it's part of the same, it's part of the same universe. Neverwinter is on the northern part of the sword coast, so it's still in Feyeroon. So it's all part of the Dungeons and Dragons universe, which is entertaining. You know, it's st when you start seeing how many games have come out, not necessarily by Wizard of a Coast, but MMOs that are out there because you got DD online, you've got games like Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter, all in the same universe. Right, sometimes it's hard to put it all together.

SPEAKER_03

I had a lot of fun too. And that that you know, while we you know wrap up or get into the final phase of our talk, I think that playing a game like this as a group is going to be a really cool catalyst for different kinds of discussions in our podcast. And I'm really excited for that. I didn't look and see if we got any new reviews, but we probably didn't because last week's episode went live this morning. Thursday is usually the day where you get the new episode. So if you are listening to this, go on your podcast app that you prefer, give us a five-star review, explain why, tell us your favorite Dorito chip flavor, tell us why Marcus is Marcus. And also tell me if you read my book because I did write a book, and on page 128 of that book, I talk about this amazing chart of all the different avatar creation strategies, and you'll get even deeper insight into what we've been talking about. But we lived that page tonight, and that was really fun. And so, Marcus, in a game like this, when you reload your save, you enter multiplayer and you group up and you spawn again. What are we doing?

SPEAKER_04

Wondering if I can read a book that was written or that got an award.

SPEAKER_03

Doritos, that was not the correct answer. Would you like to try again?

SPEAKER_01

You lob that one up, and he it was like big with it went into the stats. The NAS did not make it. Continue the journey, everyone.