Permission for Pleasure
A podcast to educate and equip women with the information and confidence they need to express, experience and enjoy their sexuality. Cindy Scharkey RN, BSN, brings her 35+ years of experience as a healthcare professional to open the doors to healthy conversations about sex. This is a community where you can listen and learn to give yourself permission for pleasure. Visit www.cindyscharkey.com for educational blogs and newsletter.
Permission for Pleasure
Sexual Reset for Midlife Women
Use Left/Right to seek, Home/End to jump to start or end. Hold shift to jump forward or backward.
Leah Fischer and Cass Redding, founders of Intimate Wellbeing, join me to share their individual journeys of self-discovery and finding sexual pleasure in midlife. Their paths of growth empowered them to team up and create an e-commerce platform for women. They are on a mission to provide tools and resources for enhancing intimacy and pleasure for the midlife woman, all while ending sexual health stigma.
Learn more about Intimate Wellbeing
Use discount code CINDY15
Learn more on these topics:
Why vibrators work for women and how to choose one
Guide to lube
Midlife & Menopause with Heather
Toys, Fantasy and Play in the Bedroom
Vibrators, Edging and Anal Sex
ORDER my Book: Permission for Pleasure: Tending Your Sexual Garden
JOIN my Newsletter: Good Education for Good Sex
FOLLOW on Instagram @cindyscharkey
VISIT my website and blog
The stigma in discussing and sharing all things vulva, libido, arousal, intimacy, orgasm, it exists. And like Cass says, we're here to put our name and faces behind it. And we're here to say, you know what? It's okay to talk about it. And not only is it okay, here's the permission, and here's hopefully the inspiration to talk about it.
SPEAKER_02Welcome to Permission for Pleasure. I'm Cindy Sharkey, your host. I'm delighted you're here. I'm delighted you're here whether you're new or you've been a longtime listener. This community does keep growing, and I'm grateful for those of you who are helping that happen by following the podcast on your platforms and rating and reviewing the show. Those things really do help to grow my work, and I appreciate those of you have taken the time to do that. If you are new here, I want to let you know that I have a newsletter called Good Education for Good Sex. Love to have you join me there and you can sign up at the link in the show notes. If you've been around a little bit here and been listening to recent episodes, you have heard me talk about intimate well-being, an empowering e-commerce platform specifically for midlife women's needs. Today on the show, I'm having a conversation with the founders of Intimate Wellbeing, Leah Fisher and Cass Redding. We talk about their own journey of self-discovery and how it inspired them to break down sexual health stigmas and provide tools and resources for enhancing intimacy and pleasure. So join me in welcoming Leah and Cass to the show.
SPEAKER_00Thank you. We're excited. Thank you for having us, Cindy.
SPEAKER_02Delighted to have you both. One of my favorite things, honestly, is to meet women doing amazing things and then sharing with my community, giving my community an opportunity to get to know what's out there, who's out there, what people are doing. So I'm delighted you could be here to tell us about intimate well-being and yourselves. So maybe you should start with introducing yourself individually. So when people are listening, they can hear which voice goes with whom. Okay? How about Leah? You want to start?
SPEAKER_01Hey everybody. Thank you for having us, Cindy. I know you're down in Southern California. We are up here in the Okanagan. We like to dub it as Napa North, the Napa of Canada. That's me, that's where I am, and that's where we are.
SPEAKER_00And I'm Cass, Cass Redding. That was Leah Fisher speaking. We are both in beautiful British Columbia and we both live on the lake, and we are so excited to be here today.
SPEAKER_02Now, were you two friends before you became business partners? We were not. We became friends through being business partners.
SPEAKER_01Fascinating. Our partners introduced us, or I guess it's fair to say that Kath knew my partner before I came on the scene. And we had a few dinners, and it was over dinner one night that we hatched this idea.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's true. Like we didn't hardly know each other, and I don't know what I was thinking or drinking. But Leah asked me to join in the business, and I raised my hand as fast as I could. And we didn't hardly know each other just over a year ago. And the synergy that we've grown over this last year has just been amazing. Like we feel like we are yin and yang completely. And we're having so much fun. I did not know that.
SPEAKER_02Let's talk about your story. But at the top of the show, I like to ask guests like you if you had sexual health education growing up, what that looked like for you, each of you. Would you share how that looked for you growing up?
SPEAKER_00Sure. I'll go first. This is Cass. You know what? We sexual health was kind of just being started when I was young. And I was the girl who was reading like all the Judy Bloom books and all the kind of wifey and stuff like that when I was super young. So 12 years old, I was super curious. So whenever there was a test in the sexual health, I always got like 100% because I was super interested in the topic.
SPEAKER_01My experience was a lot different. I think growing up a lot of the time in northern BC, I remember it was grade six, and it was the minimal little sex talk. I think the universal minimal standard sex talk, and that really was it. I mean, whatever I learned or the education I had obviously just came from talking to your girlfriends.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Was there a lot of silence in your homes or was there just normalizing of all things, bodies, and sexual health?
SPEAKER_00I mean, it wasn't spoken about in my house really at all, but I read a lot. And I still read a lot. But no, I wouldn't say it was a comfortable topic for my household.
SPEAKER_02How about you, Leah?
SPEAKER_01I mean, it wasn't a comfortable topic. It just wasn't a topic. I mean, obviously, you know, once I got my period, it was kind of like, okay, so if you're gonna have sex, when you're gonna have sex, just don't get pregnant. That was kind of the talk, or protect yourself. I should say, you know, there was probably the minimal basics, but again, it wasn't something that you talked about pleasure or intimacy or any of the sort. It just was a matter of fact and actually not really relevant or discussed at the dinner table or anytime at home.
SPEAKER_02Hmm. And so how did we go from that as younger women to where you are now and your whole journey of self-discovery and rekindling pleasure, intimacy, and joy in midlife? Let's hear the story.
SPEAKER_00I think for me it was, you know, I had I think both of us had a fairly non-sexual first marriage that was just kind of you got married because you felt like you should, and it was just so boring. And so my second partner was like a huge awakening for me, and I just thought I am never going back, you know. And then I think when both of us we turned 50 within a very short period of time, like both of us together, and it was like, this is the time we can do something different, it'll be fun, it'll be inspiring, it'll be empowering. Let's do it. Like when you know, you're turning 50, you feel like you've you gotta take it and you gotta go.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, weighing in on that for sure. Very simple, non-sexual uh teenagehood. I wouldn't say non-sexual, I mean obviously at some point there was sex and first husband situation, it was just the mundane, the kind of have sex, to have sex. And it took me, I want to say, both marriages, turning 47. And I think looking back, I really experienced pleasure in the patriarchal framework, meaning that pleasure was exclusively delivered or dealt to me at the hands of a man. I defined my worthiness, feeling validation and satisfaction only if the man in my life gave it to me. In a way, I perceived pleasure and everything good that would come from sex only if I received it, and I equated that to only if I deserved it. And so it took me till I was 47, and I was listening to a podcast one night, and it was talking about pleasure, and it was talking about you know all of the health benefits, and it was like this freaking aha moment. Like, holy hell, it's self-sabotage. I have not been bringing up self-pleasure. If you ask my husband, maybe there was a bitchiness component to my life because clearly I was miserable. I was not finding pleasure outside of the marriage or outside of the relationship. And so here I am, 47 years old in Vancouver, having this aha moment, and I took that moment and I thought, well, what am I gonna do with this? And within short order, I was Googling sex stores. I had never been into a sex store in my life. Then I narrowed it down, and then you know, there's a scene where I'm driving down one of the streets in Vancouver, I spotted it, the sex store, then I park in front of it, then I'm walking by it, thinking, okay, am I really gonna do this? And I walk into it, and damn it, there's people in here. And so now I'm looking at the lingerie, waiting for the store to clear. Then the store clears, and I go up to the woman like a deer in headlights, saying, I'm here, I don't know what I need, I want something. And she walked me through the process. So, how did we get here? And that's a long, convoluted answer. I think my experience at 47 of finding my pleasure and finding myself was the impetus to this entire journey of destigmatizing that and helping other women to feel empowered to seek their pleasure. So, to be on your podcast, Permission for Pleasure, seems completely fitting for our first podcast. Thank you.
SPEAKER_02Well, I love hearing that aha moment and that not only having a moment like that, but also acting on it, you know, and both of you are talking about that kind of experience, and it just brings me so much delight to hear that. It's actually a very common time in life where I think women have this kind of shift or pivot of, wait a minute, there's got to be more. There has to be pleasure. Why am I not giving myself permission for that? And then to see that you acted on it, both of you, whether it's talking to each other or Cash, you said you do a lot of reading, and Leah, you braved a sex store, right? I mean, these things are steps that we take. And then let's led you to this creating a whole platform for women of midlife age. Tell me what you find that you hear from the women that are coming to your platform. Are they having these kind of aha moments? How are they coming to you? How are they finding you? What's happening in their lives?
SPEAKER_00I mean, we started this and we were on a beach and we thought, you know what, we're just going to sell sex toys. That's what we thought we were going to do. We're going to do online so we can travel, we can do this. And then we just got into it. And then as we got more and more questions from women, we thought we have a chance here to do something more. And so, yeah, we really niche down. We didn't start at first as being just for midlife women, but we niched down because we are midlife women. So we, you know, we speak to our avatar. So I think that's a lot easier for us to speak to who we are. But yeah, we are getting women sending us emails, sending us texts that are bringing both Leah and I to tears. Like one woman told us that we've changed her life and given her, you know, permission to pleasure herself. Like there is an email that we've saved. I can even read a little bit of it if you want. Like it's to me, it's everything. She says, Thank you for your mission. I am revisiting my own sexual experience with new confidence. I'm getting to know my body and I'm enjoying it alone. Sharing this with you is empowering. I have participated in your last two webinars. I cannot tell you enough what a gift your company is to my heart and soul. So rather than keep this to myself, I wanted to let you know. To me, like that's everything for us. It's just so heart-wrenching, but also like it just tells you that there's so many of us we find in our age group that have just been so scared. They've got the same upbringing as you know, Lee and I have. They weren't told anything about sex, they weren't told that they could masturbate. Everyone still finds a stigma attached to it. So as soon as they see that we're saying, hey, what kind of vibrator would you like? It gives them permission. Lee and I were not going to put our faces to this site. We were just going to do this brand. And as soon as we put our faces to it, I think it changed everything because women thought, you know what, look at those two. Like, I can do that. They're putting a face to something that used to cause shame. And now, if they can put their faces to it, then damn it, I can buy a vibrator.
SPEAKER_01The entire journey, it requires courage, it requires vulnerability, curiosity, intention, and desire, whether we realize it or not. The stigma in discussing and sharing all things vulva, libido, arousal, intimacy, orgasm, it exists. And like Cass says, we're here to put our name and faces behind it as the average midlife. We turned 50 within six months of each other a year and a half ago. And we're here to say, you know what, it's okay to talk about it. And not only is it okay, here's the permission, and here's hopefully the inspiration to talk about it. I know early on my friends didn't know what I was doing. And there were some friends of mine that we had traveled together, we had shopped together, dined together, gone to Broadway shows together, you name it. And had we ever once talked about arousal or masturbation or orgasm, so then I said, Hey, this is what I'm doing. And instantly, after 20 years of friendship, there was a massive pivot in the dialogue of our conversations. It was as if she had permission. And it was like, have you ever experienced this? Did you hear this? I my girlfriend has this. What do we do? You know, it's fascinating how once you start talking, the conversation starts.
SPEAKER_02I think that's such an important thing for people to hear within friendships. I often ask women, do you talk about sex within your friendships? I mean, you and your friend group discuss these things. Well, I'll tell you, the 20 somethings and early 30s somethings, they do. They are all about it. They're in my home with me with Mama Shark. So I I know they're talking about it. They feel so much more freedom to ask questions and to ask each other and also to encourage each other. Whereas I think the 40s, 50s, 60s, and beyond, you know, until we make a pivot into it and be intentional, it doesn't really happen.
SPEAKER_00Right. Yeah, I feel like I don't know if Leah feels the same, but I feel like the things that her and I will talk about at any point, like, how did that one work for you? Well, I don't like that one. There's deep, deep conversations, and I've never had a friendship like that before. Like the things I have told her, I I wouldn't tell my average girlfriend, probably. And I have friends who still tell me, you know what, I really like what you're doing, but yeah, I don't want to talk to you about my orgasm. So I'm like, that's okay, we'll we'll get there. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01Speaking to the younger audience, over the course of the last 10 months, we've done quite a few trade shows and pop-up uh events, and we concur, you know what, you get into these trade shows and we'll be there talking about our lube, which we'll get to. But the whole notion that a people will walk by, kind of look curiously and not want to approach our booth, or they walk by and walk by almost like I did with the sex store to warm up to it. And the young ones, they just come up and they start talking and they're so excited to talk about sex.
SPEAKER_00And they buy too.
SPEAKER_02Well, you mentioned your lube. Why did you decide to create your own lubricant? You know I'm a big fan of lube. I'm the lube fairy, so I am all about it. Yeah. Tell me about that.
SPEAKER_00Well, we started the site and we're carrying other people's products. So, I mean, it's great, and we can find the knowledge and we can share that information with women, but we really wanted something that was our own. And as we're curating, we're putting lubricants up on our site, and we're trying to be just super careful. Like we try to carry only body safe, good for you, organic, natural, and there's not a whole lot out there. And even the natural ones, if you look close, they have stuff in them that you don't want in your vulva or in your vagina. So, yeah, we created the lube because we wanted to put something out to the market that was ours that spoke to where we live, Okanagan Joy, and that's completely natural, organic. Our line is you shouldn't put anything in your vulva or your vagina that you wouldn't put in your mouth, and that's kind of what our tagline is and what we're sticking to. But yeah, it's a good differentiator. We will speak back to that in that women in our age group still have a stigma about lube. Leah, do you want to take that further?
SPEAKER_01Okay, so back to the trade shows. A target avatar is a midlife woman. That's not to say our lube can't be enjoyed by everybody. We find our avatar predominantly wears it as a badge of honor that they don't need lube. Cindy, I will ask you this one question. What's better than lube? More lube? Lube, lube, and more lube. It's for the sensual aspect. Of course, it helps with vaginal dryness, that for sure. However, every sexual encounter with or without a partner can be elevated and much more sensual with lube. So this lube shaming and this stigma that under only certain circumstances lube is required is BS.
SPEAKER_02I do think, you know, you being in this space along with me, I just rub up against this over and over again in the sense of I think there's such a misinformation about women and lubrication and arousal that it just hinders so many women from investigating Lu. So they just equate lubricating or getting wet with arousal. And that's simply from the science is not true. So until they hear that kind of information, they just think, well, you know, something's broken with me, or something's broken with my arousal that I can't get wet. And this is just a constant battle for me with women trying to also encourage them that the dryness as we age is a normal factor with our hormones dropping. And I can't tell you the amount of women who are having uncomfortable or painful sex that it's simply due to not having enough lubrication at this age and stage. And then when I encourage them to try lube every time they come back, you've got to be kidding me. My life has changed.
SPEAKER_01It's so true. Yeah. But the common feedback is, oh, I don't need it yet, or I don't have a partner, so no, I don't need it. And we're like, what the hell? With or without a partner, lube with toys, with yourself, it will elevate that experience. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And I will say too, often I'll have women come back and say, if they're partnered with a man, they'll say, I'm shocked. Like he loves the lube. It's true. He is all about it. I can't believe we didn't introduce this sooner. We're just so bummed. We should have tried this earlier. So I appreciate you speaking to that, and then that we could bring that up because that's a constant. I'm banging the drum on that 24-7. Why did you name your lube Joy?
SPEAKER_00That was our tagline from the beginning. It was kind of a play on Simon Sinek and his Find Your Why. So we were find your joy for every woman. You know, everyone has a different what makes them feel pleasure. It's going to be different. Maybe it's a vibrator, maybe it's a wand, maybe it's an egg, you know. So it's find your joy. We're here to help you figure out what works for you. Love to hear it. And then uh after that, we're like, well, gosh, let's name our lube joy because we found your joy. It's right here.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. We want you to find your joy. Another tagline of ours is we want you to have great sex with or without a partner. Of course, lube being part of it. But as women, we're often made to believe that there's something wrong, like we said, about talking about sex or wanting it or doing it. Our whole platform and why we pivoted from selling the thought concept of selling sex toys while sitting on a beach is to empower women to go find their joy, have really good sex with or without a partner. And those orgasms. We should talk about orgasms.
SPEAKER_02We should talk about orgasms. Tell me what you're hearing from women about orgasms.
SPEAKER_00You know, I don't want to get too much pressure into that because I feel like there's so much pressure to have the orgasm. Or you still have great sex without having an orgasm, so I don't want to push that too far. But orgasms like we want to push that. There's so much health benefits to having an orgasm. You'll live longer, you'll get rid of a headache. It's good for blood pressure, you'll sleep better. Like there's so much of that. And people are actually living longer who have more orgasms. So it's like, you know what? Pleasure yourself a couple times a week at least.
SPEAKER_01One trivia fact that we came across recently is women our age should be having two to three orgasms a week for optimal pelvic floor health. Pleasure aside, just for optimal pelvic floor health. Part of our whole messaging here, and we'll get to our community, is way back in the day when you were young. Did you get the memo that says you should seek out pelvic floor specialists, just as you would to go have your eyes checked, your breast examined, your pap's mirror? Did you get that memo? Oh no. Because up here we did not get that memo.
SPEAKER_02No, and on my podcast, my listeners know I'm a big fan of pelvic PT. I'm glad you're bringing that up because I think they are really helping to change the narrative for women around just pleasure and pelvic health and sexual health.
SPEAKER_01For sure. Because going right back to what is sexual wellness, there was a study recently here in Canada, and the vast majority of women could not define what sexual wellness is. And it's not just about the orgasm, it's not just about the intercourse, it's not just about the masturbation, it's the entire context of sexual wellness from Equating it to being as important as your mental, physical, spiritual health to what's going on down in your pelvic floor. And you know, we'll make it to the age of 50, even if we have not seen a pelvic floor therapist. Hopefully the young ones are getting that memo to see the pelvic floor therapist. But if you want to have optimal health that's going to take you for the next 50 years, you better be getting in there and getting things checked out because I can't stress it enough. I way back in the day, it was this badge of honor, or I I don't know, we were reminded as young women, or at least I was, hold that tummy in and engage that core and and you know have this presence, you know, basically shoulders back, tips up and and tummy in, and you're told to do your kegels. Okay, so you do what you think is kegels. But until we met our community of sex versus and experts, and until this past year, and I went in to a pelvic for physiotherapists, and so she's doing an internal, and she says, Okay, do a kegel. So I do a kegel. She says, Do it again, so we do it again. And she says, That's your kegel, huh? I'm like, that's what I thought was my kegel. You don't know, you don't know. And until you go and fact check your kegel ability, you don't know. So one of our messages is make it a priority. See a pelvic floor physiotherapist.
SPEAKER_02Yes, your pelvic floor is interconnected to everything, but I think people really need to keep hearing this message of it's so much support of all your other organs as well, not just sexual function, but holding everything else in place. There's so much to it. Just listening to your story makes me say, I wish every postpartum mom for sure should have several sessions. Every woman who comes into menopause should have some sessions. And then in general, it's just there's so much hope through the therapy for those who are experiencing sexual discomfort or issues with urination, or I could just go on and on. But I am with you on that. And I think we do need to keep sounding the horn over that and encouraging women to pursue it. Thanks for sharing your story about that.
SPEAKER_01For sure. And leading back to our community, I think that that's a whole other aspect to what we're here for, apart from having our online retail boutique, which was what we thought we were going to hang our hat on. It is this community. I'm sure you are familiar with the inability, the inability for us in the community to advertise in mainstream online social media is nearly impossible. If you are promoting pleasure, if you're promoting sexual wellness, anything is nearly impossible. So by going to the trade shows, by having one-on-one conversations, and by building a community of predominantly midlife women, but having sex verts and experts in their designated fields, we feel like we're the conduit between these sex verts and experts and our community. And whether it's a pelvic floor physiotherapist, whether it's OBGYNs, we have sex therapists, intimacy coaches, help me out here, Cass.
SPEAKER_00Nurse practitioners like Cindy Sharkey.
SPEAKER_02Well, I love being part of your community as a nurse, and I and also that you're providing education and being that conduit. So not just let me sell you a sex toy, but let me educate you about pleasure. Let me give you education. You're always saying we're learning alongside you. Let us bring the experts in. It's a beautiful part of your platform in just building this community through education and through your own experiences and living it alongside women everywhere. That's a beautiful way to approach your whole endeavor, right? Your passion project. I love it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I mean, we feel empowered and we're hoping that we are helping women feel empowered to ask for what they want and what they need.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and I'm with you, Leah, with the just frustration of being boxed out. I try to tell people, you know, please join my newsletter because I can only say and do so much in the social media spaces without getting banned or targeted. Right. Just frustrating that we can't talk about body parts or sexual wellness in a reasonable way online. But that's why you're trying to bring people into your own community too with your platform. I'm trying to bring people into my newsletter so that I can say what I really want to say is as a nurse, use the right body part names. It's important for people to understand that that's a real hindrance. And they probably get about a smidge of what we really offer in the social media spaces because of how that operates.
SPEAKER_01For sure. And as with some of the doctors in our community, they'll speak to their frustration. They're not banned to advertise or promote it, but their frustration lies in the fact that day after day, patient after patient comes into their office and they're having one-on-one conversations that are pretty much the similar or same conversations. If it's, you know, a libido, arousal, you name it. And so for them to come on to our Thursday night seminars, it's a platform to speak to more than one and share the message and hope that that messaging goes from those ears to other conversations. So we're inspired. I think uh Cass and I learned really early on that this entire community of professionals is so uplifting and inspiring. And let's face it, we're talking about all things that will benefit us personally, but all things that will benefit women in the name of well-being. So it's a really easy project of passion to work on every day.
SPEAKER_00It is. Yeah, we're having so much fun. But I'll speak to just being an advocate for women and helping women learn to be an advocate for themselves. Like, I feel like I have more information than most about menopause. I have more information than most about hormone therapy. We have the menopause chicks in our community, and she has a book. We've heard her speak twice. So yesterday I went to my doctor and I said, Listen, these are the hormones that I want. This is what I need. And he's like, No, no, you need to have this one. And I said, nope, I really think I need this one. And he was convincing me that I should do this other thing. And I said, you know, I'm just to be honest, I'm in the sexual wellness industry, and his whole demeanor changed immediately. He's like, Really? Okay, so you are using these hormones now? Okay, so tell me more. And so I was educating my doctor yesterday. But you know what? I still walked out of there with the wrong prescription. It wasn't what I wanted, so I had to talk to the menopause chicks, surely we're get her to tell me exactly what I needed, and go back to my doctor again. If we have to educate doctors still, like imagine how hard it is to educate people like us. You know, you're listening to your doctor. Shirley told us yesterday that someone asked her about vaginal dryness, asked their doctor about vaginal dryness, and the doctor recommended hemorrhoid cream.
SPEAKER_01Oh dear. And we're sharing our experiences, like Cass said yesterday with her doctor, or my pelvic floor experience. It's just us living everyday life, being inspired and educated by our community, doing something with it, and then sharing our findings in hopes that we will inspire others to take their sexual well-being and intimate health to a whole new level.
SPEAKER_02Well, I want you to tell listeners how they can find you. And you also have offered a discount code with Cindy 15 on your platform that my listeners can use to check things out. I love this idea of reminding people that if that going to a sex store like Leah was talking about sounds very scary. And that is very normal. You know, it that seems so off-putting. Like, oh, I don't think I could do that. Well, you have a platform they can do right from their bedroom if they want. Go right online, it's lovely, it provides so many things. Even you even have a foreplay section. Love it. So I wanted to have you tell people how they can find intimate well-being.
SPEAKER_01Okay, so I'll leave that to Kat. But what I do want to say about our online boutique, as Kath alluded, it is carefully curated. I like to say in the sex toy and lube industry, there's everything from the Kia to the Bugatti out there. We have really tried to position ourselves from the Mercedes up to the Bugatti. So the higher end, higher quality, um, really high end. We even have a $19,000 vibrator on our site. Wow. So, yeah, that's our offering. And on our site, you will see everything sexual, sensual, therapeutic, wellness. You'll see our community. We're pivoting on the daily.
SPEAKER_00If people have ideas that they want to see or learn more or connect with us, you can find us at intimatewellbeing.com. And it is still just the two of us. So we are fulfilling orders, we are taking things to the post office, we're changing the blog, like it's just the two of us. So right now, if you email hello at intimate well-being, it will be one of us that answers you. If you have a question about a vibrator, if you have a question about who to speak to about your pelvic floor health, if you have a question about flabido, arousal, we can send you to the right people. And it is just us. And like no one, it's very discreet and it's a very safe place to shop.
SPEAKER_02You know what I like too? On your site, you have those of us in your community, your experts, and you tell a little bit about each of us. I'm just one of many, you have many people, but I love that people can actually come on there and find resources like myself, or like you mentioned, menopause chicks, and you have, I mean, Lori Brottos on there. You have so many people in the sexual wellness space to provide a resource for right for visitors to your site, of people within your community that you trust that people can go to to learn more on their platforms. Just sharing the wealth of sexual wellness there. And that's a great offering that you have.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, we like to say that empowered women empower women. You know, it's so it is super nice to be. This space has been amazing for the two of us. Very welcoming space.
SPEAKER_02Love it. Well, I'm thrilled you could join me. Thanks for taking the time to talk to my community and me today. Well, we like to share something that's delighting us, bringing us pleasure day to day. I wonder, Leah, if you might share something that's delighting you.
SPEAKER_01Being here, it is a project of passion. It's delightful to have this conversation with you. We hope it is the first of many because, as Cass said, we we started out with as Coco and Lola on our site, and we feel like in Shy of a Year, we have come a hell of a long way. There's so far to go yet, but if we can have one conversation at a time, that is delightful. Love it.
SPEAKER_00Love it. How about you, Cass? It is a gorgeous day here. We love the sunshine. I'm sure we'll get out for a bit of exercise. We live on the lake, both of us. I am not happier anytime besides June, July, and August. So I'm quite happy to have a great day.
SPEAKER_02Oh, love that. Yes. Well, what's delighting me, listeners, is I had baby robins born in my back patio, and uh the last of them just flew off. And I've been watching their progress, and it's been a delight for me. So, ladies, thanks for joining me. Thank you, Cindy. Thanks for having us, Cindy. It's been a pleasure. Pardon the pun. And you can find the link to intimate well-being in the show notes. My Cindy 15 discount code will be there for you as well. I hope you'll check them out and look at all they have to offer you there. And maybe it will help you to pivot in your own life in the way they've described for themselves and learn to give yourself more permission for pleasure.
