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Does Price Matter? The Ultimate Langhe Nebbiolo Blind Taste Test
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We test a bold theory about Langhe Nebbiolo by blind tasting four bottles across wildly different price points. The surprise isn’t just which wine wins, but how often this Piedmont red delivers that savoury, cherry-driven “drink well, don’t think” comfort.
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Wine 1: Rivetto Langhe Nebbiolo - https://www.danmurphys.com.au/product/DM_68716/rivetto-langhe-nebbiolo?srsltid=AfmBOorN2gz9HPOrsMgQaplLjdGVWDw5Hg1GHUA3rXc3HtC75ynPQWEv
Wine 2: Fontanafredda Langhe Nebbiolo - https://www.danmurphys.com.au/product/DM_318128/fontanafredda-langhe-nebbiolo?srsltid=AfmBOoq_GuKJvUwf_HHILn5obBBbiQ6_nDtlydEgf4f0oRZBx01s-CK-
Wine 3: Massolino Langhe Nebbiolo - https://www.danmurphys.com.au/product/DM_275885?store=1026&gclsrc=aw.ds&e_cid=ps:ds:GOOGLE:A212+-+Standard+Shopping+-+PLA+-+All+Products:All+Products:ds_keywords%3Dds_kw:PRODUCT_GROUP&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=21000445336&gbraid=0AAAAADidTxD23Pb7HRued-uaMRy3M-_sF&gclid=CjwKCAjwgO7RBhBKEiwAZNP85iE-n9RQjNKEcA8qviMXDoCATML4it1_nAkin4GZikeyKT2JfvRLVRoC29oQAvD_BwE
Wine 4: BelColle Langhe Nebbiolo - https://www.danmurphys.com.au/product/DM_260173?store=1038&gclsrc=aw.ds&e_cid=ps:ds:GOOGLE:A212+-+Standard+Shopping+-+PLA+-+All+Products:All+Products:ds_keywords%3Dds_kw:PRODUCT_GROUP&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=21000445336&gbraid=0AAAAADidTxD23Pb7HRued-uaMRy3M-_sF&gclid=CjwKCAjwgO7RBhBKEiwAZNP85lIpyq0GjjnRGVg7p9LHX5W_N9S0vftvvzHsQP_mpcfBWgvMi8U0ZxoClbkQAvD_BwE
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Welcome And A Big Wine Theory
SPEAKER_03Let's go.
SPEAKER_02Sorry.
SPEAKER_03Hi, and welcome to Wine with Megan Balwick. I was clapping to start, not to shut you up, by the way.
SPEAKER_02Bullshit, I saw the face. That was the mum face. That was so let's get on with it.
SPEAKER_03Austin makes us clap so he can sing the video. Anyway, we're here to help you navigate the world of wine. I'm Algo Grow my master of one, Meg Brookman. Austin is here. Here's our producer from McCleary Productions. And today, I'm so glad that you did this because I came in with like a big statement and I was like, Meg, I want to do langy because I have this theory that no matter what you pay for langy, it's going to be good. And let me explain. Something like Pinot Noir, you don't pay enough, it's going to be shit. Almost universally. Step back.
SPEAKER_02Langy Nebbiolo.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, okay, sorry. Langy Nebbiolo is from Italy. So you might be more familiar with Barolo,
Langhe Nebbiolo Vs Barolo Basics
SPEAKER_03which is the premium fancy Nebbiolo.
SPEAKER_02Over a hundred bucks a bottle.
SPEAKER_03You might be familiar with the term uh barbaresco, which is also, you know, we're in that fancy premium ether. But we're talking broader region here, the bigger how can we? It's a sub-region of the Piemonte. I'm trying to similar it to Australia the. I can't think of a there is no actually, there's no comparison in Australia, is there? It's it's Tasmania instead of Tama Valley, maybe.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Let's say that. So let's say Barolo is Tema Valley, and let's not make comparisons. Let's not make comparisons.
SPEAKER_02Langy is an area, a sub-region of Piemonte, so Nebbiolo is the great variety, and generally is associated with more approachable wines in terms of price. They're not in the stratospheric area of Barolo and Barbarisco's ending up there. Age requirements are reduced, yield is usually higher. But Mel is right. When we have had Langies on here, including one from Costco, I seem to remember. Ages ago, they always drink well. Always. And so Mel's theory, or theory? Big call. Theory, big call was I reckon Langhi Nebbiolo is the same at whatever price point.
SPEAKER_03I don't think I said the same.
SPEAKER_02Well, that's kind of how I read it.
SPEAKER_03Okay, you read it. Interpretation, it's always perception. Okay, well, yours is gonna make a better headline, so that's what we'll call the episode. But but no, I I just think Why pay more? The the the spectrum of Pinot Noir is like crazy. It goes from very shit to holy my god, amazing. And Langy has a much smaller spectrum, and I just think whenever you buy one, it's a smaller spectrum, and it's it's almost like it goes from good to very good, but it's always going to be enjoyable. And so that's what I wanted to test today.
SPEAKER_02So we were testing the enjoyment factor or quality.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Yeah, enjoyment factor. That's a very good point.
SPEAKER_02So,
The Blind Tasting Setup And Prices
SPEAKER_02what I think we should do, since Mel's made this call, we want her to rank the wine. She's got four wines in front of her from cheapest to most expensive. So I'll let you, I'll I'll set it up because I've bought these wines. There's a 23.
SPEAKER_03Oh, wait, maybe I should rank it from most enjoyable to least or something. And then if that lines up with cheapest to most expensive, then it's disproved, my point.
SPEAKER_02The algorithms are getting complicated. We will defer to our producer, Austin. What is better content, Austin? Um can she get it right?
SPEAKER_01Is her theory I think it's can you get it right? Okay, I think if you can actually it won't matter the price point. Can we do theoretically?
SPEAKER_02You could do both. You could say this is true. Yes. Okay, fair. And they they may align. So can I just line it up for you so you've got the full knowledge?
SPEAKER_00We have a 23 We have a $23 bottle, we have a $38 bottle, a $46 bottle, and a $65 bottle.
SPEAKER_03Oh my god, can we use rounded numbers? What 20, 20?
SPEAKER_0220, 25, 40, 25, 40, 45, 40. Well, no, 48, 40, 50. Okay, so 20, 30, 50, 60.
SPEAKER_03Okay. 20, 40, 50, 60. There you go. 20, yeah, better. Okay. Well, we don't know that that's the order that they're in. That's the order. Okay. Something else that I just thought we'd quickly cover. If you were to liken it to grapes that you might be more familiar with, it is probably going to be more like powerful than a Pinot at the same price point. But it's probably going to taste more savory, maybe have this like European forest floor danky yumminess to it, which is how I'd describe it. If you drink Sandrovese, it is likely going to have less sharp tannin. So we're looking at some Meg, that is horrible. You need to stop spitting into in front of the microphone. Oh my god. Bon is going to be very upset.
SPEAKER_02I do not swallow it. I've got to go to the hairdressers.
SPEAKER_03Spit away from the back. Okay. So we are looking somewhere in between Pinot and Sandrovese in terms of wines you would be familiar with. Meg, yes, would you agree? Yes. Yeah, I mean I think if we were to describe Nebbiolo is a more forgiving grape variety than Pinot Noir. But like langy in particular, it acts so differently. Because a Barolo, you could almost compare to a Shiraz, right? But a Langy you're gonna compare to a No Tan and the acid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Body like Yep. Yep. So with that, I think is there any other things that we need to give as background to the Grape or Region, Meg?
SPEAKER_02No, but I'm expecting Order. Should I give you any top tips?
SPEAKER_03No, not yet. If I'm struggling.
SPEAKER_02No. No, I won't give you any top tips. So Lengy, big region, a range of producers. Can I just ask quickly, do you have vintage on these ones? Because that's one thing I actually didn't check when I ordered them. Can you just have a quick look and tell us what what sort of range we're sitting in? Don't tell us by why, but just are they around the same age? Some of it might be like not getting there. Has to.
SPEAKER_0022, 23, 24.
SPEAKER_01Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_03And one I that's right, nothing's really old. Like, no. So they're all fairly young. Give me a hand it to you.
SPEAKER_02Am I going crazy? 2023, you dickhead. Thank goodness. You're looking at my big well, I think it's because it looks like my handwriting. And the pricing is almost the same. To be fair, I just called him a dickhead, but it's written almost like handwriting on the side of the bottle, and I have put the pricing on the side of the bottle.
SPEAKER_03Okay. Okay.
SPEAKER_02Why number one, Mel?
SPEAKER_03Point number one. Why number one on the nose is sour cherry is the main thing that sticks out to me. There's like this red plum.
Wine One: Sour Cherry And Autumn Leaves
SPEAKER_03It has this like European-ness, which is like a forest floor, or like a forest floor, but it's not wet. Like what's a what's a forest floor that's not wet? Like leaves, like autumn leaves. But maybe wet forest floor as well.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, no, it's like, well, as we're experiencing now, you've got those lovely autumn autumnal leaves all on the ground.
SPEAKER_03Like it is right now.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. But it's not, it hasn't decomposed.
SPEAKER_03Yes, that's exactly what it smells like.
SPEAKER_02I have this beautiful Japanese maple that is literally that colour in my garden and it's just shedding. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, there might be like a hint of Britannomyces. By oh my god, I was gonna say spice. No, actually, I'm not getting bread. Are you? Oh, maybe. I hate it when you point it out. Far out. I hate it when you do that. You take wines that I really like and you tell me there's bread in them, and then I can't get it out of my head.
SPEAKER_02Sorry.
SPEAKER_03Shit. Okay, fine. Okay, so palette.
SPEAKER_02This is higher acid.
SPEAKER_03Tannin is like a medium. It's not as big as Nebbiolo can be often. I find that quite smooth and easy drinking. I wouldn't rate that so far as a as like one of the cheaper ones. I'm not sure I'd say it was super expensive, but isn't that my point? Eh. Yeah, okay. So can we leave it there for now? It's finished though. I feel like it's still lingering. So that's a good thing. One number two smells bad. One number two smells sweet, like a mocha.
Wine Two: Mocha Notes And Glycerol Talk
SPEAKER_03I often describe Shiraz like a really oaked Shiraz. Like mocha because it has this bitterness with this sweet.
SPEAKER_02Okay, we can just say you can't smell bitterness, but I know what you mean. It's that because you associate coffee with bitterness.
SPEAKER_03Yes.
SPEAKER_02So in your head, you think you're smelling bitter. Exactly.
SPEAKER_03So the reason we go.
SPEAKER_02Association rather than actual physiological smell.
SPEAKER_03Just clarifying. Sorry, clarifying. So I'm I'm smelling this like chocolate uh sorry, like a sweet coffee is like what I'm smelling with this mocha. And so normally when that's what I'm smelling, it is an overripe red grape that has been oaked. Sometimes maybe in like an American oak, can I find doing it?
SPEAKER_02I don't think Italian can use American oak.
SPEAKER_03I was wondering that. So I guess it's still French, but it's I I do often find the oak paired with the high toast versus true. Okay, so maybe that's what it is. Palette is smoother than I was it's much nicer in the palette. I'm not getting the same. There's a little bit there's a lovely soft suppleness, actually. That often a cheaper wine can so maybe it's a tiny bit of residual sugar getting us to this suppleness. No, you don't recognize it, or is it the yolkiness?
SPEAKER_02Glycerol is just could be glycerol in the fermentation, so they've gone for a higher glycerol producing yeast, because I agree with you. There is a there is and glycerol is a higher alcohol that you can perceive as sweetness.
SPEAKER_03I find that yummy. Like I just find it, it's like we were talking about it. Is it langi nibbiolo? Yeah. I think so. I think it's I don't know about identifying it as a the grape original. But it's what do you expect? But it is.
SPEAKER_02So if I said to you, I'm Mel, I'm bringing a good bottle of langy nibiolo and you drank that, you would not be disappointed.
SPEAKER_03Oh no.
SPEAKER_02So it's on your enjoyment.
SPEAKER_03On my enjoyment factor, that's way up there. And I think one of the main things is we spoke about the jigsaw puzzle. That's a complete jigsaw puzzle. Like it is going down as one complete piece. I would it's a it is like langy is the most drink, don't think, but drink well, don't think. Like drink well, don't think. Like, drink, like have friends over, open pizza, give them something cool and different, but you don't need to sit there analysing it. It's not crazy. Like, it is just nice one. Okay, I like that too. One number three. Uh, it's it's a cherry on the nose, it's less sour, it's maybe like a wrapper red cherry.
Wine Three: Oak, Chips Rules, Study Reality
SPEAKER_03It's got a little bit of that uh spiciness that does imply oak, and oak often does mean it's gonna be higher quality because oak is expensive. Can they use chips in Italy?
SPEAKER_02No, what are chips? Oak chips. You can't use oak chips in any appellated denominated wine or PDO wine in Europe. So wines from DOC or DOCG or AOC.
SPEAKER_01Where do they put the chips?
SPEAKER_03Like a teabag.
SPEAKER_01Oh, there you go.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, they literally like teabag the wine.
SPEAKER_02We don't say teabag the wine though, because people associate that with other things. Exactly. I have learned that you can literally no, people have like I've had students laugh in front of me when I was just it's like a teabag and they'd go teabag the wine. I've learnt you you basically put the chips in a sack, or in the case of a red ferment, you can actually just throw them literally in and they'll mix in with the skins. But illegal in Italy and Europe or they are illegal in protected designation of origin wines, PDO wines. They were allowed for a short period of time on an experimental basis, but they are legal in IGT or Van to Pay Pay wines, so the lower level wines.
SPEAKER_03This is why not to say they don't high-level wine study is hard, is that what you just tested Meg on is basically how many PDOs, like how many re PDOs, do you know how many just guess would be in Italy? Just Italy.
SPEAKER_02Oh Jesus, hundreds, hundreds.
SPEAKER_03300 and something. So you just said can and sheg was able to say for this region, one of 300. For it for any PDO. Or for any PDO. But in theory, there are rules that Meg needs to know the answer of for every single one. For my level of study, I only know it for like the No, the top, top, top ones.
SPEAKER_02I only know because Meg needs to I made wine in a lot of these areas, and we actually brought in chips, and so we would have to illegally put them in the tanks before anyone. I love it when you tell stories like that. And tartaric acid, because when I was working in France, in Kaole particularly, you weren't allowed to chaptilize and acidify in the same winery. Fucking stupid law. I mean, just pull laws out of your bum, and you weren't allowed to use chips. So I used to drive in chips and acid and we'd do it at night. And we'd go down here. We we we not that's that's for off offline. But we we used to go out to the local the the Lot River, which is this massive river, and we'd pick the stones and we'd be licking the stones, going, Oh, do you reckon that's going to impact the taste of wine? Because you had people coming around from the local consortium, so they would be testing your wines, and you had to do it before they do. Yeah, it was fun times.
SPEAKER_03Anyway, back to the wine. So, can I just also make a point that when you're studying what's it you have to call the colour of the wine? Yeah, and there's a whole spectrum of colours that are at your disposal. And I always say just five. Most of them, though, they're gonna be ruby. They're almost always ruby. Like, I'm sorry, like 80% of red wine is gonna be ruby, and everyone's always trying so hard to call things purple and garnet and stuff. If you've got Nebbiolo in front of you, you've got a good chance of it actually being garnet. 100%. So that is one thing that I will say about Nebbiolo is that if you ever are trying to like hone what different colours are by a neb, it's probably garnet.
SPEAKER_02Garnet has an orange, brown, orange terracotta rim, Ruby has a pink rim.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Okay. One number three, I found I got this sweetness. I got, it was very integrated. It wasn't a puzzle, but it was like, and maybe the sweetness is from oak, but it was it, it might be oak mixed with overripeness that's being in my head becoming this sweetness. I found it more simple. I was less interested in the structural elements, and by that I mean I I didn't find the tannin interesting or the oak. Everything worked together pretty well, but it was all worked to well at a lower level than wanted.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, not not just wondering if there's what there is one wine under cork. I'm wondering if it's that that wine.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Yeah, so maybe that would explain it.
SPEAKER_02One I don't I I don't know, but I agree with you that it's it's it feels a little dull, and that could be a quality question. Yeah, or that could be a closure question.
SPEAKER_03Okay, wine number four. I should point out the wine number four is in the best glass. So we know we've done these tests before, and we know the glass does uh change things, but
Wine Four: Precision, Tannin, Best Glass Factor
SPEAKER_03what I am getting is the best no so far, and I will do my best to try and explain why. Sour cherry, a autumn leaf like we're talking about on the ground now, but like a month ago when they were just starting, which I think is this beautiful, like bricky, clay, early autumn, slight savouriness that's not like a danky, wet, overdone.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's like baked earth versus wet earth.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it is.
SPEAKER_02Definitely.
SPEAKER_03Oh my god, it it's uh that to me is that that nose is what I want. Okay. On the palate. The tannins are making themselves known more than the others. It's pleasant, it's not overdone, but they are just more present. This cherry uh red fruit savouriness is swirling around, well integrated. I would definitely put that as my pick for the highest quality one. I just think the the precision and the fruit and the there's there's a uh purity or something to it that I think is done really well. In fact, that's maybe done more well than I would expect langy. So I would put that, like I've never paid more than like $30, $40 for a langy. So I think that's why I think that's the top one. So are you talking about in terms of quality?
SPEAKER_02You think wine four is the top the most expensive? I guess we're associating cost and quality.
SPEAKER_03Then wine probably uh wine wine I really enjoyed. Hang on. I'm not gonna think it through too much of time, I'm just gonna taste it.
SPEAKER_02Just do your enjoyment factor now. Which one would you buy for for enjoyment out of these? Because I guess at the end of the day, that's it. If Mel's spending if Mel's spending nearly 70 bucks on a langy, she's gonna have high expectations.
SPEAKER_03Okay. Okay, you got your but not remarkably different, and I think that's my point. Yes, I have a particular order. I wine number four is my favorite, wine number one is my second favourite, followed by two, then three. However, I believe if I was giving these wines to friends. Jesus. If I was giving these wines to friends, I don't think they could tell the difference.
SPEAKER_02And is that quality or enjoyment factor? Yeah. Because you've lost lined them up and I'm very confused. We have the same glasses, so we I've I'll send them in order.
SPEAKER_03I've I've decided this is my enjoyment factor. You can probably link that to what I would assume is the quality.
SPEAKER_02Do you want to hear mine before you reveal? I would, I do want to hear me. Okay, great. So I think wine number two is the simplest one there. There's not a lot going on. Or did I think this was the simplest one here? This is what happens when we had multiple. I think wine number yes, I remember now. I think wine number one, the moment number two is the simplest. Then I would go the first wine. I'm talking, I'm doing quality and price here.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, I got it.
SPEAKER_02Because I think this is very juicy and and it's Nebbiolo-esque, but it's trying to be nebbiolo. It's good, it's got a little bit of makeup on it to make it look like nebbiolo.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_02And it just feels a wee bit dilute. So lowest quality, second lowest quality. Here I'm really, really, really confused because I agree with you that this seems wine number four seems like the highest quality. Uh but I do worry that this has got a little bit of cork taint muting the wine. I don't know.
SPEAKER_03You think three has so three I put is my last one.
SPEAKER_02And you think that cork taint might be muting it rather than make there's just something on the palette that's not right based on the the nose.
SPEAKER_03The interesting thing is the one that I put as number one. I think has less oak than a couple of them, but I just think that the fruit is really high quality.
SPEAKER_02I will I'm gonna call it. So one, two.
SPEAKER_03Hang on, can you put in order for me? Okay, so you have rated wine number two the the best. Or the least expensive, sorry.
SPEAKER_01And we ready? Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Uh yeah.
SPEAKER_01Let's talk through what Meg's gotten from now. Meg has.
SPEAKER_02Wine number two is my least expensive.
SPEAKER_01Wine and then wine number one, second least expensive.
Rankings, Price Reveal, Theory Tested
SPEAKER_02Yes, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Wine number four, which is Nel's favourite, is your second most expensive, and wine number three is your most expensive.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah. Okay. How far wrong?
SPEAKER_03This is my kick and use.
SPEAKER_01Can we feel the tension rising team?
SPEAKER_03Start from the cheapest.
SPEAKER_01You want to start from the cheapest? The cheapest wine is wine number four. Proved your theory, correct. Yes, I'm right. Wine number three, which make which uh Mal had at her lowest is the most expensive.
SPEAKER_03And then my wait, and then so what was the because the structure on that was right.
SPEAKER_02It that the it was just muted. And what about these two?
SPEAKER_01Wine number one, this one here, that's your second most expensive. Oh, so I was right.
SPEAKER_03Okay, but then going Enjoyment. Like do would you equally enjoy these wines? This is proving your theory correct. Yeah. It doesn't matter what it's bloody.
SPEAKER_02Bloody delicious and it's 23 dollars.
unknownYes.
SPEAKER_02And the wine is Austin will put it on the show notes.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I'll put them all on the show notes.
SPEAKER_02So it's a little bit unfair because wine number four, I I get what you're saying, but you you look at the structure of that wine and it's it's as it should be. And the reason not to not to overstate things. It's $70. Yeah, that is, yeah, you're right. We've spent a decent amount of money on that. And I can't go back to Dan's now and go, this is cool. Can't you? No, because we're halfway through the bottle because it's on the podcast. Right, okay. This, yes. This is if you're teaching it. The cheapest one at $23. If you're teaching Langy Nebbiolo, that's your glass. And if you've got your trains over.
SPEAKER_03What was it?
SPEAKER_02The Bella something?
SPEAKER_03No way. I've never even seen this one. Okay, there is a tree on the label.
SPEAKER_02That's the most expensive. The Masolino.
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah, that's the massive mascalino.
SPEAKER_02And was that was that under court?
SPEAKER_01So it wasn't under court. I was wrong.
SPEAKER_02So which one's under court?
SPEAKER_01So sorry.
SPEAKER_02No, that's fine.
SPEAKER_01Because it is a bit the second cheapest. So which is uh wine. This one.
SPEAKER_03Okay, so my friends are getting married, and they gave me the wine list and said go nuts. And I was like, Do you want wines that people actually know and like and is going to make their life easy by
What To Serve It With And Final Takeaways
SPEAKER_03do you charge for this? No, of course, they're my friends. I'm going. I'm going to do that.
SPEAKER_02That's their wedding present.
SPEAKER_03And she said, no, go nuts. I was like, so I can just pick cool stuff. And they said yes. And there was a langy, and I was like, you're a hundred percent putting that langy on the list because it is going to be good, even though it is cheap and it is going to be awesome, and you're going to give people a taste of something nice and delicious, and everyone's going to love it. Right? And so instead of getting like a you know, a Shiraz or something.
SPEAKER_02Is it a go to you know, go back and keep chugger, chugger, chugger while you're having a party?
SPEAKER_03Not in a party, but we had friends over the other night. We made pizza and we sat outside and drank wine and ate pizza for a couple hours into the evening, a winter evening in a heated little, not outside, like are we coming there next weekend? Yes. On my little deck with um better all the bread. Oh god. Okay, so uh yeah, whatever. My deck, we made it warm and we sat outside drinking the and you could just drink this. I'm sorry, but something like we also had open a very expensive Australian Tras cab and a high-quality Chianti, which is uh Saint Gervese, the main region in San Gervese in Italy. And they were nice when we were eating pizza, but when it just gets into the evening, you're chatting with friends, you're sitting around, you're just sipping red, this is what you want. You want langy.
SPEAKER_02I agree. And this time of year, we were Austin and I were talking about transitional wines because you didn't get involved in the conversation. And I think this is the perfect transitional. She has had a week, to be fair.
SPEAKER_03Hey, I was sending reports to sponsors.
SPEAKER_02I was still busy. I think this is a good trans. I this is the perfect wine for this time of year when you're doing your Osabuco's and your slow brace papa di, you know, ragus and exactly.
SPEAKER_03That's exactly what I'm making at home at the moment. That's that's that's what my life looks like.
SPEAKER_02Austin cooks, don't you? I do. Yeah, I do. He gets it. It's got an Italian Lebanese Lebanese background, yeah. Does that have to cook? Do you have no choice?
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_02Oh, I'm sure it's born into your black.
SPEAKER_03Okay, okay, we're at half now. We gotta go. Enjoy next class wine.
SPEAKER_02Yes, that's my that's my line.
SPEAKER_03Oh shit. What do I say drink well, drink well, drink well? No, that's not what I thought you gated up with me and you're a wrong.