In this episode of Get Your Shit Together we chat about:
🧡 What’s the difference between heartburn, reflux, and GERD?
🧡 The myths and misinformation you were told for stopping heartburn
🧡 Why you need to take heartburn seriously: the problem with chronic burn
🧡 How to get rid of heartburn and tummy trubs long term
🧡 When to dive deeper into gut healing
Episode Show Notes: www.getyourshittogetherpod.com/podcast/episode86
Follow us on Instagram @getyourshittogetherpod
Root Cause Reset Course
Stop messing around with TUMs and acid reducers. Join Diane’s Root Cause Reset self-study course and discover how to quit heartburn for good, so you can get back to the food and experiences you love.
Sign up here: www.rcrprogram.com
Connect with Diane:
Instagram: @dianeteall
Website: www.diteawellness.com
Connect with Adina:
Instagram: @adinarubin_
Website: www.adinarubincoaching.com
In this episode of Get Your Shit Together we chat about:
🧡 What’s the difference between heartburn, reflux, and GERD?
🧡 The myths and misinformation you were told for stopping heartburn
🧡 Why you need to take heartburn seriously: the problem with chronic burn
🧡 How to get rid of heartburn and tummy trubs long term
🧡 When to dive deeper into gut healing
Episode Show Notes: www.getyourshittogetherpod.com/podcast/episode86
Follow us on Instagram @getyourshittogetherpod
Root Cause Reset Course
Stop messing around with TUMs and acid reducers. Join Diane’s Root Cause Reset self-study course and discover how to quit heartburn for good, so you can get back to the food and experiences you love.
Sign up here: www.rcrprogram.com
Connect with Diane:
Instagram: @dianeteall
Website: www.diteawellness.com
Connect with Adina:
Instagram: @adinarubin_
Website: www.adinarubincoaching.com
Hey babies and welcome back to another episode, to G Y S T, as we say. Ooh, spring is springing. Hey, Adina.
Adina:hey, what's up?
Diane:I might hair a little stuffies here. Uh, the pollen is thick, thick outside my window and I tried to work on my computer outside, get some sunshine on my eyeballs and there was just like a green film on it.
Adina:I don't miss that.
Diane:No, I'm sure I would like a sea breeze, which I will be feeling soon in the next month. Um, but it's just blowing around and things were going so well with the allergies folks. That's a motorcycle. Wow. Nice day for a ride. Things were going so well with the allergies until this year, so I just got myself a ceramic netty pot. That's what I'll be brewing after this episode. So, pardon in the stuffies folks, but the show must go on.
Adina:Show must go on. We're also recording at a different time today because actually I should probably share a little bit more about what's going on here. Um, basically if you're not familiar with what goes on in the Middle East, every so often, tensions escalate between Gaza, Israel, the whole deal. And so we are currently in a bit of a rocket fire situation and it's, it can be a little scary. Basically the reality of living here is this happens and very young ages need to understand it too, which is a part of what I've been struggling with a little bit. Like the rules of how to not traumatize your children in America are very different than here. Like here you really need to give them information. So what happens is, When tensions are high, if there are rockets heading to Israel our basically sirens will fire here. And the siren signals for us to get into a bomb shelter, depending on where you live, they have calculated how long it would take for a rocket to fall. And so we live in Tel Aviv. We have 90 seconds from when the siren goes off to get into our shelters. And for the most part, the Iron Dome, the technology that we have here,
Diane:The most expensive firework show in the world.
Adina:Yeah, it intercepts a lot of rockets, a lot of them, especially where we live in Tel Aviv. So my friends who live in the South, it can be a little bit dicier and they have way less time to get into their shelters and they have to do drills with their children. Like it really is a scary reality of living here for us. It, it just feels, um, disruptive, you know, and again, I, I hope
Diane:So not as scary as you might think, just
Adina:yeah, it's still like, you still have to follow the precautions. You know, you just never know. But most people here feel less pressure and fear around it. And the people who have been living here for a long time, they helped to set the pace too. Like Donnie had to take the kids into a shelter. The other, like two yesterday, they were playing in the park and there was a siren and there's shelters in a lot of the public parks. And he said it was their first experience within my kids. And so we were a little nervous, but the Israelis that were, that had been living here for years, who were in the shelter with him, like there was markers and papers and they created a really like, calm, nice environment for the kids. And so that was really helpful. And I think Minnie is still processing it. Like we explained a lot to her.
Diane:Did she have a lot of questions last night or today?
Adina:She had questions, but more than that, I think it kind of just shut her down a little bit. Like she came home from school today and asked to listen to music, and if you guys have been here for a while and you know that, that's Minnie's kind of like hub. That's her alone time.
Diane:Lady Gaga. Joan
Adina:yeah, from the time she got home today, she just like sat with her headphones in a corner, just like building by herself and just like, I think she's just kind of trying to have a little bit of control over something in her life, you know?
Diane:Sarah Sirens are just ominous and creepy. I mean, I've seen some videos and no matter how you feel, I mean, I'm sure there are people listening who have different opinions or some very strong ones because I know that it is a very sensitive issue, some of the news over there, right? But I hope that you, we can all agree that we want for everybody to be safe and not have to be disrupted and running from playing in a park or school or work, or just driving on the highway for fear of their safety too. So I'm glad that you guys are okay. I was thinking about you guys overnight
Adina:Yeah, we were really nervous that we were gonna have to rip our kids outta their beds also, cuz we live in an old building and a lot of the newer buildings in Israel, they build them with bomb shelter, like a bomb shelter room in each apartment. So for a
Diane:room. Literally.
Adina:yeah, for a lot of my friends who live in those newer buildings, like they, their whole family will just sleep in the bomb shelter if it's a questionable night so that they don't have to like wake their kids up and rip them out of their beds. Cuz that to me is like the scary, traumatizing part too.
Diane:Yeah.
Adina:um, but yeah, it was quiet overnight here and we're just living life going through it. I think this is also important to say, because I know people are listening to this who have been listening to me talk about anti-Semitism for years on the show, and I still, with all of this, Would not move back to the US like we made a choice to live here and the way it felt to be Jewish in America versus the way it feels to be Jewish here. It feels so much better to be here, to be a part of the culture, to raise my kids here, that like even with the terror and this trauma and this kinda looming thing overhead, it still feels better to raise my family here. It still feels safer to raise my family here, as crazy as that might sound to some people. So, I don't know. I just think that's important to say. But yeah, it's been, it's been a wake over here and I'm definitely going through it. My stress is high, but trying to find the things that make me feel good.
Diane:Yeah. So what are those? So what have you been doing? What are some good things you've been focused on?
Adina:Um, honestly just been feeling good with work. Excited. I have a sale going on with S T H H right now, so I'm always excited to get more women in the door to help them get strong. I've been baking sourdough, you know, a little procrast to baking,
Diane:Mm-hmm.
Adina:and I actually have not been training this week, not because I think it's too stressful to train in this environment, but because part of my stress response, like my stomach has really been bothering me for the last few days, and so I've just been taking it easy. Resting a lot, snuggling with ea a lot, and yeah, for those of you dealing with tummy shrubs, like get your butt inside R c r immediately. I do not know how you live like this.
Diane:No, uh, it's the worst.
Adina:I can't believe that people's stomachs hurt them all the time. This is the first time that I've felt like, ugh, my tummy hurts in like years,
Diane:Where you're not sure what it's gonna do,
Adina:Yeah. Nothing has materialized yet, but
Diane:it's just ready to rumble. W w e style,
Adina:shooting pain too. And like I'm not quite sure what it is. Like this might be late lal phase. It's the stress of all of my travel from last month and like I have canker sores and a zit. Like have you ever seen me with a zit on my face? Like I honestly dunno what's happening to me.
Diane:of things happening. Yeah. The kink or sores are like a shore sign. Oh, she is stressed. You never get tummy aches. And if you're like, well wait, what? Why is all that happening? Like, I thought they've got that figured out. Like there are ups and downs. We did a recent episode, the Are you bad at wellness episode?
Adina:to that. I think it's a great example.
Diane:Of like expectations or you know, things are going to ebb and flow and it's not that you're never gonna encounter a tummy ache again. Yeah. For me now my, I carry my stress more in like I'll get headaches, whereas, or my shoulders get tight, used to be my tummy and which is not fun. So I hope that you got something soothing to sip on or
Adina:Yeah, it's like you can have your health figured out and then you can travel with three children under the age of six and have rockets heading towards your hometown and suddenly you don't feel great.
Diane:I'm just saying that the Midwest is, we got Midwest nice and it is very pretty here. We don't have natural disasters or conflict and I'm here, so I'm just saying that this little corner or this mitten state is quite nice and I know we have a lot of very friendly listeners who would also welcome you if you wanna visit or we start a commune, community commune, not a cult, just like just a spot where we live together.
Adina:Mm-hmm.
Diane:so over here, and I guess when this airs, this will already, she'll already have received this and I don't think she listens to the show, but we'll have had Mother's Day and we're planning on getting, uh, my mother-in-law and Neil's dad, well it's Mother's Day, a Green Egg, a small green egg
Adina:how
Diane:that they can take with them camping to, because they were all stoked about the one that we had. So we're gonna have them over and grill. So we've been trying to plan what we're gonna do for that and getting our backyard all set up, including with our table that we got when we went to visit you. Well, when we went to go to Jordan. So, yeah. I don't know if I shared that here. We bought a table, y'all, we went to go to Petra. We didn't think that the souvenirs were gonna be so good. Like I was just imagining key chains and magnets and just the typical tourist fair outside of big attractions. Right. But we
Adina:oh, no.
Diane:workshop. Yeah. And have this table that was delivered. A month or so ago, and we just don't have a place for it. Neil wants to put it under the perilla that he made in our backyard. So I think that's the plan, and then we can enjoy it for summer. But other than that, uh, what am I doing? I'm cooking through Unfussy Food by Allison Roman, which I may have mentioned on a recent episode. When I get a cookbook, I borrow this one from the library. I like to cook through it, and this is a sure sign that this is one I need to buy because I've enjoyed so many of the recipes. The other day I made something with, um, I did a roast chicken, but I got really crispy bone in skin on chicken thighs, like just the bronzes, bronzes, brownest skin, so crispy with dates and shallots. And then on the side I did this maple butter sweet potato.
Adina:Yum.
Diane:Oh my gosh. It was so good. So I'm really enjoying that and I'm definitely going to buy it. And then as far as what we're watching, we started Love and Death. On HBO o with Elizabeth Olson and Meth Damon. Um, I keep forgetting that people don't realize who Meth Damon is if they didn't watch meth Breaking Bad or see the memes around it. But he's the guy in Breaking Bad that looks kind of like Matt Damon, but
Adina:on
Diane:he, yeah, on meth. Um, poor Jesse Pl plumbings. Kirsten Duns, hiss husband, I guess. So he's in it.
Adina:How do you say that? In possessive
Diane:Kirsten Duns, his Kirsten, Kirsten Duns husband.
Adina:sis?
Diane:Yeah. How do you say that? Um, so that's thrilling. Um, yeah.
Adina:I didn't even tell you. Um, I mean, That show is obviously for us with the Crow content.
Diane:Yes, the crows. I'm so
Adina:The second they told the Crow story, I was like, this is gonna come back.
Diane:And when the crows are watching them in the valley, like, oh. Yes he did. Did he evacuate his bowels when they were talking about their Crow friend who was scared by Steve or Allie?
Adina:Okay. They were, they are two of my favorite actors working right now. I mean, he is just
Diane:love Steve Yoon.
Adina:Yeah. I
Diane:Nope. Have you?
Adina:no, the last thing I thought saw him in was Manari
Diane:Okay. I
Adina:probably. Yeah. Great. Um, man, he's so good and she was so good, so good. I thought they were both great.
Diane:Mm-hmm.
Adina:again, no spoilers.
Diane:know I don't wanna spoil it, but I want to talk
Adina:I know. I really wanna talk about it. I know. Should we just do like a fast forward, if you haven't listened to B.
Diane:How
Adina:Maybe we'll wait. It's still pretty new. I know. I, I feel like, yeah, but I really enjoyed it. I thought it was an amazing conversation about mental health class connection being seen, like what shifts in your life when someone sees you and you can finally see others. Like I, it's just, I
Diane:Yeah, that's what got me. Yeah, I really just love watching the evolution of Steve's character and how, oh, just what he went through. I re, he was probably my favorite character and um, Neil was surprised by that, but man,
Adina:loved Paul.
Diane:yeah, he's so goofy.
Adina:Yeah. He's cutie.
Diane:Yeah, I wonder if he's in anything else but altogether it was just such a great series. I've watched it through twice because the first time I went on without Neil, he'd fall asleep or whatever. And um, so he picked up on it. Picked it back up and I had to watch, watch it through with him again. I really liked it. So hope to see them doing more
Adina:If you haven't watched Beef, let's go.
Diane:Mm-hmm. We love beef
Adina:We love beef Segway. Shall we get into the beef of this episode?
Diane:The beef, the potatoes. Ooh. I can't believe we haven't done like a dedicated heartburn episode just yet. How is that possible?
Adina:I know it's a good one. It's a struggle for a lot of people. I think we briefly mentioned it in like our pregnancy episode, because I know that can come up for a lot of people in that season of life, but there are plenty of people dealing with heartburn on the reg.
Diane:It's one of the most common things that I hear from new clients, of course, with the whole gut health thing, right? It's part of the territory, but it's something that I think that so many people accept as part of getting older, or they just will White knuckle through or just take things to deal with. And this was a part of my story too, was I had terrible heartburn senior year of college and I think the year after that, and it kind of started this whole spiral into this whole holistic health thing. But taking Tums, taking Prilosec or omeprazole acid reducers, that might sound familiar to you, like if this is part of your current situation. But in this episode we're going to talk about how we got here, why so many people have issues with heartburn, acid reflux, gerd, and what's the difference between all of those? Or is there one, we're gonna talk about what you're told about stomach acid, about heartburn and how you're told to fix it. And what we would do instead, cuz we kind of know a little bit about this with the whole gut health and nutritional therapy thing the last five years, you know, you know,
Adina:Yeah, this is, I feel like one of those. It's very unique in that obviously there's many times when the conventional approach is not something we would get behind. Heartburn is very interesting because it is literally like the conventional understanding of it and the conventional recommendation or the exact opposite of how we understand it and what we would recommend,
Diane:it's so wrong
Adina:and it's so bizarre. I can't understand how so many medical professionals just like don't get how digestion works. Do you know what I mean?
Diane:Truly, truly. And that's facts. Because when we get into this and we explain how things are working or how they're supposed to work, how they go awry, you're going to be feeling like, what? How, how did we learn this any other way? I mean, especially. I have the, the personal story behind it too, or personal feels towards this, of going to a couple of gastroenterologists and going through endoscopies, going through all this testing and a few months of antibiotics and a year or more of taking Prilosec and Tums almost daily. Only for them to be like, you know, some people just have that, and so yeah, take this goodbye. Like, how is that your job? Like, how are you so bad at your job?
Adina:It's a real puzzle.
Diane:How, yeah. It's
Adina:gis, it's particularly hilarious because it's like, You're a digestion doctor.
Diane:like, you should be good at this.
Adina:why don't you know how digestion works?
Diane:Well, it's, it all goes back to they're gonna try to make something stop, no matter what the fallout of that may be or the solution may be is. All right. You got this problem. We're gonna stop it. One way or another. Might cause you some other issues that will bring you back, but we're gonna kind of stop it maybe?
Adina:Yeah.
Diane:Mm-hmm. Yeah. So first up, what is heartburn? What is acid reflux? Who is gerd? Maybe you've heard of her gas. Yeah, they're all used interchangeably, but let's clear it up real quick. So acid reflux is the backflow of stomach stuff. Whatever's floating around, churning around your stomach, into your esophagus ill, and it's that the feeling of acid reflux is heartburn. So the burning sensation in the middle of your chest, maybe a tightness, maybe you notice it after meals, especially if you eat in your horizontal, or maybe it's like a couple hours after you eat and you're just like, why is my stomach attacking me right now? Then
Adina:might not know it's your stomach. You might think you're having a heart attack.
Diane:because it can feel alarming. I've, um, I spoke to a friend who was like, I've never had it before, and I've started to have a little panic thinking there's something going with my heart, because that's kind of where.
Adina:Yeah. It's high up.
Diane:Yeah. High up. So, and your, yeah, like your, your stomach, your belly is sometimes people like my belly aches and maybe it's not, it's not their stomach, but there's intestinal crimping anyway, that's a different, different thing. Gastro esophageal reflux disease or GERD is when reflux is happening chronically. So this was something that I was told that I had because I had heartburn acid reflux for a while and they're like, oh you have gerd. And I'm like, how do I get rid of it? So this happens after stomach acid over time irritates the esophagus. So some people might even have a horse voice, they might have some trouble swallowing and they might not connect that to a stomach problem. Right. But might feel just kind of a lump in their throat coughing or asthma could get worse. Or some people, and this one is probably the loudest and most obvious sign of GERD is pain and ulcers too.
Adina:Yeah, those are nice and burn.
Diane:Yeah. Don't love that.
Adina:okay. Let's talk about, people know what heartburn acid reflux GERD generally are. Let's talk about what conventional medicine has told them about these conditions, especially if they've been dealing with them for a long time.
Diane:Yeah. Yeah. They love to tell people that canola oil, vegetable oil, oils in general are heart healthy, and that is where you should focus. Make sure that you avoid butter, any, anything that's too fatty and rich and delicious.
Adina:Yeah, that one gets sent everyone's way. Whenever there's any kind of something, any issues going on in the torso, it's like gallbladder stuff. Oh, you just gotta stop eating anything fatty. Like any digestive issues, it's like, obviously it's because you're eating stuff that's so fatty,
Diane:fatty and rich and creamy, and it's gotten a little bit better, right? Because low fat really had its moment in the eighties and nineties, but I am still hearing. That people are told this, I think my folks still think that this is where you gotta focus, is just avoiding that butter.
Adina:but they might tell you not to have fried foods.
Diane:Mm mm-hmm. And that we can get down with Yeah. Limiting, avoiding fried foods.
Adina:It's interesting. Like they're not, it, it's all very
Diane:are they not realizing that the
Adina:with the fried foods is the canola oil. I, it's a puzzle. It's a real puzzle.
Diane:They're like, well, as long as it's not fried and fun,
Adina:Yeah.
Diane:So weird. But if you missed it, this is, I mean, throwing it all the way back to season one, we did a two-part series about heart health. It's called the leading cause of Death, part one and part two. So we'll link that for you in the show notes in case you missed it,
Adina:Yeah, go get'em. But I think the number one thing that people are told when they're dealing with acid reflux heartburn is you got, you got too much stomach acid,
Diane:you have too much st you have too much acid. Yeah, definitely.
Adina:too, it's too acidy in there.
Diane:Yeah, I hear that all the time. Oh, I just gotta, I can't have that because I already have such an aesthetic stomach. I gotta, I gotta watch out and it seems to make sense, right? I mean, if that acid is backing up into my throat, my stomach must be full of it. So I gotta
Adina:Yes. So much.
Diane:So much acid. So we'll be, we'll be talking in this episode about why, why we don't gotta worry about that. Mm-hmm.
Adina:All right, so if you have too much stomach acid as conventional medicine would like you to believe, then how would they like you to fix it?
Diane:Yeah, they're the, they're the professionals. They went to doctor school. So how would they tell you to fix it? Well, first up, avoid trigger foods, acidic foods, especially anything acidic. Tomatoes, coffee.
Adina:Hmm.
Diane:Kiss it. Bye-bye. Yeah. Oh, I did miss those so much. And that was for me, a major trigger, not only for heartburn, but bubbly guts, you know, not so fun, but we'll talk about that too. Um, coffee, dairy. Gotta get rid of the dairy, and this could be causing an issue for a number of reasons. Sugar, but those are really the main ones. Did I forget anybody? Acidic
Adina:that's pretty much it. Yeah. Acid, tomatoes, coffee, those are like the big ones. Maybe chocolate too.
Diane:Chocolate, citrus.
Adina:and then your unique triggers, like they'll tell you if you notice anything is causing your heartburn. Fried foods I think is a big one that they'll tell you, but this also, whenever we get these just like list of foods and no information and empowerment about how your body works, it just keeps feeding into that list of no foods that we're always talking about here. Yeah. Like imagine someone sitting in the conventional medicine office and. The doctor tells them, oh, you got heartburn and you got too much stomach acid, so just avoid X, Y, Z, and here's some medication. It just makes it seem like these foods are bad and these foods are the problem.
Diane:but maybe you're the problem. Just kidding, you're not. But maybe your stomach is the problem right now, or, yeah. And then this also is prevalent in the holistic world too, because I'll hear that there as well. And maybe in addition to, it's like, oh, well you need to do a low histamine diet and avoid vinegars and tomatoes and this and that and that, and it can just turn into a long list of no or bad foods, which we're not a fan of,
Adina:yeah. If you've been listening for a little bit, you know how we feel about symptom suppressive diets,
Diane:Yeah. Yeah, for sure. This next one may seem to make sense as well. They might tell you to drink alkaline water.
Adina:lol.
Diane:Yeah, you gotta lower that pH because it's just so acidic in there. It's so acidic in there. And you gotta maybe try to change the um, pH of your body too by what you're drinking. Now this might not be a strong suggestion from a conventional doctor, but I am, we have seen for the last couple of years that alkaline water is trending. I'll see celebrities drinking it. Usually it's that, what is that essential water? It's like a black and red
Adina:Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's what I'm picturing too. And it's just so funny. Like peop, I think people fall for that a lot because it's like, oh, science, like I'm acidic and this says pH on the bottle and they're, they know stuff about the pH, so
Diane:Yeah. Another way to complicate water.
Adina:Yeah.
Diane:Um, yeah, that's, it's really popular alkaline water. And so too, our alkaline diets kind of in the holistic space to change your body's pH. This next one I already mentioned, maybe it's familiar. And that is Tums. Oh, those Tums
Adina:You know what's funny? I was taking Tums my whole childhood for calcium
Diane:for calcium. Those
Adina:I didn't drink milk.
Diane:So how many would you take a
Adina:l l o L. They were so chalky. Why are they so chalky?
Diane:It it, it is like eating sidewalk chalk. It is. And they, they have like a smoothie blend. Have you seen that? Like they have a
Adina:oh my God, they were so tropical. Yeah, the, I used to take the tropical
Diane:Mm-hmm.
Adina:They were so sweet and so shocky, like if anyone took Tums growing up, you're probably having a visceral, like saliva reaction in your
Diane:No. Suddenly my mouth feels so dry. Just thinking of, ugh, thinking of
Adina:have an aloid. Um,
Diane:like those.
Adina:Yeah, but man, how dumb is that calcium? I can't. That one really kills me and
Diane:to carry these
Adina:messed up my tumtum. Just taking those all the time for my calcium.
Diane:Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, because spoiler alert, we don't like unopposed mineral supplementation, so going him on
Adina:What form of calcium do you think is
Diane:shitty, shitty warren calcium. Well, anyway, I used to take these daily, multiple times preventatively, and then just chew in on those when I thought my stomach was going to act out both up top, down below, both of them all at once. I
Adina:Wait. I'm having so many memories right now. The way the bottle sounds when you shake it,
Diane:Yeah, I actually have a reel of me, like pouring Tums onto my face and like Doug's trying to catch them and slowmo off to share that again with this episode. But yeah, the sound, oh my gosh, it was like having a Pavlov reaction, like suddenly my stomach hurts and I think I need it. Um, I've caught Neil with some of them, caught Neil with them. Cause I go, what is this? Yeah, what is this? And he is like, oh, I, I had some taquitos. I'm like, yeah, I would need Tums or something after I had taquitos. Um, so I would carry these around, but I would also carry around Pepto-Bismol tabs, like the pink chewables. So that was part of my undergrad senior year. Heavy into that routine. Um, I'd also maybe pre-game with those, which was why, why would I do that? And then I would also take. This is a very common suggestion. Prilosec, Zantac, which I think they had an, they had an issue recently, didn't they? Like a recall or a lawsuit probably. Um, or the generic omeprazol, basically something that is going to suppress or stop acid production because you just have so much of it,
Adina:right? If you have so much acid, you gotta take a acid
Diane:You gotta stop your body from making acid. So I took that daily, daily for like two years. And maybe if you've had Harper, and then this is part of your routine too. And I guess we should have put this disclaimer a little bit further up, but people who've been here for a while, they, and rock with us. Like they know what's going on. That there's, if you've had to take these or you're told to take these, you're just doing the best that you can. Like, you just want to not feel that burn. I understand. But we gotta talk about why these are things that are not going to serve you long term. They're. They lead to more issues. I've just seen it too much personally and with so many clients time and time again that we gotta shit on these recommendations that are just not actually helping you.
Adina:Yeah. And again, same disclaimer, like don't just stop taking a medication cold Turkey because you heard our episode, like when we've, especially clients who are like on PPIs and stuff, like when we guide a client, if they are interested in coming off of a medication,
Diane:Mm-hmm. This one
Adina:It's, it's a process. It's not just like stop.
Diane:yeah. I have them wean off a specific way because if you've been chronically suppressing that acid, uh, the stomach is also irritated and has been going through it long before you even started taking those. You don't want to just like switch things up or go back to eating all those acidic foods like Diane and Adina said to, you know, not avoid all those acidic foods and things, just like bring them back. No, we wanna wanna take it slow so you're not having like a breakthrough burn.
Adina:Exactly. Uh, all right, so why don't we explain if it's not too much stomach acid and acid suppressants aren't actually solving the problem. Let us explain what is actually going on.
Diane:Ooh baby. You don't have enough. You don't have enough stomach acid.
Adina:What then why is it so Bernie?
Diane:Yeah, let's make that make sense. So I know it seems as though you have too much stomach acid if it's back flowing into your throat, into your chest. But what's happening is, Your stomach needs to be a very acidic environment in order to properly break down your food and also to neutralize any threats. Because you might have heard us talk about this here, definitely in our, I'm friends with the monsters in my gut episode that we're encountering bugs, pathogens, viruses, parasites, all the time in our environment. We are. That's just the nature of life. And your stomach is supposed to be the first line of defense against those things, right? And it has the job of starting to mechanically and chemically break down the food that you eat. So that's an i an I ideal situation. So it needs to be a very acidic environment when you are eating and it has to be the stomach. Your what you eat has to be acidic enough to move on into your small intestine and the rest of your GI party. Okay?
Adina:Right, like the next stage of digestion won't open the gates if you don't reach a certain acidity. But Diane, can you explain something to me? If you need all this acid in your stomach to break down your food, why? When you have adequate stomach acid, why doesn't it burn?
Diane:Yeah. If it's supposed to be aesthetic, why doesn't it hurt? So you got that cute little mucosal lining down. If be
Adina:Cutie mucus. Oh wait,
Diane:here they are calling it cute
Adina:Um, sometimes Donnie will have to spit mucus, obviously, as we all do. And my kids have like gotten really obsessed with it. And
Diane:hoking, is that what they call it?
Adina:yeah. Earlier, earlier, um, Abe was in the living room and he just starts running toward the garbage and he goes, I've got makeup.
Diane:Makeup.
Adina:were like, what? And he's like, I got makeup. And then he like, spits in the garbage. And I was like, oh, mucus.
Diane:I got makeup.
Adina:That was so cute. Okay,
Diane:I like
Adina:What about your cute mucus?
Diane:so you should have a cute mucosal lining, lining your tumtum, lining your stomach, and it's protecting, protecting that. And so you shouldn't feel a burn, an ideal situation, right? You also have sphincter, you have several, I mean, we've talked about one and unc unclenching it, but ideally your sphincter, the one keeping your stomach from separating from your throat, and then the one on the other end that goes into your small intestine. They should be closed until we need them to open.
Adina:Yeah.
Diane:But what happens is if you don't have the proper acidity in your stomach, your stomach's like, well, this isn't ready to move on unless we force it to by eating more food. Or it's just been sitting in here a long time. So food's sitting there, right? And what happens is, The carbs that you eat are going to give off gas. The food that you eat starts to ferment. It just kinda sits there and bubbles up. And what happens is that gas is going to travel up and cause that spnc to open and that's where that backflow, that reflux occurs.
Adina:Right. Your body's like, well, they're not opening the bottom door, so someone opened the
Diane:Yeah. Gotta let, let off some steam, let off some of this gas. So
Adina:go right back out the way we came in, you know, uh, you know that joke from parks when, um, John Rapo interviews for the accounting job that, um,
Diane:Wait. I love John Rapo as stomach contents. This is a great, great picture.
Adina:We actually need to make this meme. I think, um, John Ralphio interviews for the job that, uh, Ben Wyatt doesn't want anymore that accounting job at the accounting firm. And so he walks in and they're like, are you proficient with spreadsheets? And he's like, oh, I spread those sheets. And then he, he just goes, he like walks in a full circle in the accounting room and just goes, so I just walk out the way I came in.
Diane:John Rapo is one of my favorite characters on television ever, ever, Literally, it's me in spreadsheets though. I am a freak in the travel spreadsheets, I will say. But everything else like Count me out. Count me out. Yeah. So I know it's can sound counterintuitive, but hopefully you're picking up what we're putting down so you don't have too much stomach acid when you have, when you have heartburn or acid reflux.
Adina:Okay. So we have two little stomach acid, and so things aren't getting digested properly. Things are irritating. The lining things aren't moving on in our digestion. That's just like short term. So can you explain a little bit of like if you were to kind of just continue popping your Tums or, right, because that sounds simple. It's like, Okay. They're, they're make, they're telling me why it's happening, but I don't really wanna do anything about it. So what happens if I just keep going as I'm going and just take my prosec, take my tums, just keep doing what I'm doing.
Diane:Yeah, yeah, totally understand. Wanting to take an easy solution, but let's just look ahead to what could happen. What I've definitely seen with clients. Um, first up, this one isn't a stomach symptom that you might think of, but could cause some dental issues, especially if you are regularly chronically having acid reflux and having that backflow, so that acid over time, eroding teeth enamel. This is also something that I've seen with clients who are recovering from bulimia or eating disorders. Um, so Yeah, wears away at teeth enamel, um, but also too, You know, dental or otherwise, not being able to properly break down your food over time causes malnutrition. You're not going to be able to, uh, properly absorb minerals and vitamins, which is going to take away from your overall nutrient balance and also cause you to not have the teeth perfect little teethies that you want. So, parasites, we also talked to you about how stomach acid is going to be your first line of defense against pathogens and the bugs, the opportunistic buggies. So one of those is parasites. So when I'm running GI maps with one-on-one clients, I will, we might think about parasites or maybe you just haven't even done a GI map test and you are just thinking about like, oh, I, I need to do parasite cleanse. But have you completely forgotten about the basics of that first line strengthening your first line of defense, your stomach and your stomach acid.
Adina:Yeah, and we'll talk about this a little later on in the episode, but like when clients present with, with heartburn stu, like acid issues, acid reflux issues, sometimes it's called for a GI map because like there can be some complicated situations where we can't really start doing the healing we wanna do. It comes down to like certain bugs that are present. But for most people, we want to do the basics first. There is still stuff that we can do to support optimal digestion before we have any idea which critters are actually showing up on that test.
Diane:Because how did the critters get there in the first place? Your defenses are down. So this is why now the progression is that we'll start with the basics. How can we strengthen your defenses, strengthen your function, and just calm down the GI before doing something more extreme. Um, certainly there are some cases where someone was like, oh, I was traveling abroad and I picked up some. Crazy bug. And that is where we might go in heavier to start. But basically here, when we have, um, acid reflux heartburn for a long time, we are setting ourselves up for poor defenses against those bugs that stomach acid is supposed to be there protecting you against. So on a lighter note too, imbalanced gut bacteria, this is where maybe people are noticing,
Adina:gut bacteria? A lighter note?
Diane:is it? Yeah, but maybe it's not like, I mean, parasites peop that in worms. Viruses, yeah. Some, some of those can be more aggressive, but maybe someone might not know that they have an imbalance, gut bacteria, but they might have issues like, um, a lot of like gas or cramping or,
Adina:allergies, food sensitivities, even hormone stuff, mental health issues. Like there's so much that goes on in the system when we're not digesting our food properly. When
Diane:Like things that you might not connect to
Adina:yeah, which we did a, an episode called I Don't Need Gut Healing and other lies where we break down a lot of these things that might be coming up for you. So maybe go back and give that one a listen.
Diane:Mm-hmm.
Adina:But yeah, it's not something you want, right? We really want our digestion to be working optimally so we can turn the food that we eat into energy and we can get rid of the stuff that is not supposed to be in the body.
Diane:Yeah. Right. Beyond the threat of these buggies where we don't want them, if you're not properly digesting your food and breaking it down, the fallout of that is you are not able to. Use those healthy building blocks from the food that you eat for energy, for fueling your beautiful body. Um, beyond stomach stuff too. I mean, mental health issues. I think that's something that it's so overlooked. The, the role that gut health can play in that. Because if we're an overusing a, um, antacids acid suppressors, we're not able to absorb minerals and vitamins, going to impair our protein digestion, and we're not going to have those building blocks needed to make healthy neurotransmitters responsible for healthy even mood. That's just, it's just not gonna happen. So over time, you're dealing with malnutrition, osteoporosis, other thing, other chronic health issues too, because we're not getting all of the little, little building blocks that we need where they need to go.
Adina:I think we need to spend another moment here cause I want everyone to really understand how important this is. I think there are certain trends in the health space, especially very popular on Instagram now too, where in our minds people are skipping a lot of steps. Like some people are obsessed with minerals or we're telling everyone that they need to just be eating more food and that'll solve all the problems. Or we're telling people that they need to be focusing on more nutrient dense foods and that'll solve all their problems. And we agree with all of those things and we cosign all of those things and we work on all of those things with our clients. But if you are struggling with crippling acid reflux or heartburn, those things aren't going to make the difference right now. We need to get your digestion sorted out so that you can actually utilize the beneficial things in all of those foods If you. Go about your day and you're just trying to follow these instructions that you see on Instagram, but you have crippling heartburn. That is a sure fire sign that you're not digesting and absorbing the things that you are eating properly. And it's not, those pieces of advice are not gonna be the only things to move the needle. We need to make sure that we are optimizing your digestion and we are sorting this thing out with your stomach acid so that you can properly break down these foods and shift the things in your hormone health, in your mental health, with your food sensitivities, with, you know, all that other stuff. So we say it all the time, but digestion is one of those first basics that we really cannot overlook. And
Diane:it's so often overlooked, and I guess we should have prefaced this too. I mean, this is for you even if you have acid reflux heartburn or not, because I mean, you might not have those things or have them regularly, but you're someone who gets really farty when you eat, when you drink milk. But yet you heard that was so good for you to eat, so you, you power through anyway and then you feel gassy, bloated. This, all of the things we're talking about here still apply if your stomach is not properly acidify, you're not queuing the right processes, the right gastric juices further south. And I mean, we also spend a time, some time for a moment earlier talking about fat. Like you're told, oh, that doesn't sit well, or, oh, that is a trigger for your heartburn. Maybe it's not heartburn. Maybe you just like you have an upset stomach when you eat fat. This information all still applies to you too because the stomach acid and things going right in your stomach is what is going to cue everything else going right after that. And if it's not, yeah, you're not gonna digest your fat, you're not going to digest your food in your, your cutie little small intestine and so on. So oftentimes, we've talked about this on past episodes too, but it bears repeating here, is that oftentimes we'll see people think, oh, I need to take that. That flashy probiotic in the glass jar. I'm not gonna say the brand, but I get ads for it all
Adina:we've sent it before.
Diane:Yeah. I mean it, the, the branding's sexy, but they're like, oh, probiotic. I need that. Oh, kombucha. I need that. Now there's this thing people are doing on TikTok of like olive oil lemonade to improve their digestion. I'm like, do we, do we need to be putting olive oil in drinks? No.
Adina:Wait. Oh my God, I'm so glad you mentioned this. Not the olive oil. The lemonade, I think, wow. I really wanted to say this and I forgot about it, and I'm glad you brought this up. Okay. When it comes to acid reflux, we highly, and again, any digestive dysfunction, we highly recommend working with a practitioner. And the reason for that is because you are gonna see so much advice on Instagram. Maybe on TikTok, you listen to other podcasts and you hear a piece of advice, and you think, this will solve all my problems. Now say that piece of advice is taking a shot of apple cider vinegar before you eat your
Diane:Or drinking lemon water when you wake up
Adina:Yeah, cuz we're telling you, okay, so they're telling me I don't have enough stomach acid and this person on TikTok said I should just shoot some apple cider vinegar before my meals and that will solve my digestion. Say we run a GI map with you and you already have something like h pylori going on, or your stomach lining is really compromised already and you're dealing with
Diane:it's pissed.
Adina:that, that's not gonna be a good starting point for you, right? Like we need, we need a more, a more individualized approach to sooth that stomach lining and make sure you're ready for something like that. So again, whenever you're dealing with heartburn specifically, but really any digestive dysfunction, I do think walking through a program like Root Cause reset where you have a proven framework, you have Diane's support, is going to make a big difference. For your healing, not setting yourself back with like some dumb trends that you see on the internet. And apple cider vinegar is wonderful and it can be really helpful in certain instances,
Diane:But maybe not for you right now.
Adina:not a starting point based on where you're at. And we'd wanna know that information. You wouldn't wanna just be pouring acid down your throat if you have some open ulcers or your stomach lining needs a lot of support.
Diane:No. And yeah, thank you for the plague. Um, yeah, I've done this and supported clients through this a few hundred times now, so I know a couple things about stomach acid and, and the heartburn. And the Dina mentioned a moment ago, h pylori, it's bacteria that is gonna be occurring in your stomach, but we don't want it to take over. That's really the trend here, is like, we don't wanna completely eradicate things, but we just wanna make, make sure that bacteria knows whose boss knows who's the captain, and that they're not partying because defenses are down. We talked earlier about like, okay, if your stomach is not acidic enough during your meal, things aren't going to move on until they're forced to. Right? But if some, if that food's just sitting around for a long time, over time. It's acidic enough to irritate the stomach and that's where ulcers happen. That's where h pylori overgrowth happens is it's not acidic enough to move on into the small intestine, but is acidic enough to fuck up your tummy lining. So not fun. We don't like ulcers. Yeah, I mean lemon and all like lemon apple cider vinegar, citrus in general, like we love them for different things, but I've seen too many people and definitely people who have come into RCR who are like I was trying to power through. I heard it was good and so I thought maybe I just needed to tolerate some of this in order for it to get better. But especially for folks who have heartburn. This is not for you yet. So we have a whole process that we walk through that that gets you through it. But don't
Adina:used to go hard on lemon water in the morning and it would make me so nauseous and I didn't connect it. I was like, oh, I am healthy.
Diane:Yeah, like just gotta power through. How are your teeth too, like doing that day in, day out, like
Adina:Just nauseous.
Diane:it's not good. Don't recommend. That was like for me, when I had reflux heavy that senior year. It was like the burns certainly, but also like just feeling nauseous all the time. Like, am I gonna herp up my food? It was like, can I bend down to tie my shoe or is something gonna happen?
Adina:yeah. Mm.
Diane:You can laugh about it now, but like you're saying at the top of episode of not feeling well, like feeling that way every day, I can't believe that I dealt with it for that long and that I just kind of tolerated things getting. Tiny bit better or tolerable when I was taking Tums, but it, and an antacids, but it never really, it never really made it that much better. So
Adina:Yeah. This is your sign. If you've been waiting to take care of your health, like this is your sign. I used to find it fascinating when I used to do clarity calls for like, My nutrition program or one-on-one clients, and people would get on that clarity call and they would tell me that they had diarrhea multiple times a day, every single day. And then when we talked about what it costs to work with me, they would say, oh, you know what? Actually I'm not gonna do it right now. And that would baffle my mind, like, invest in your goddamn health. If you have diarrhea 10 times a day, or you have crippling acid reflux, just get that sorted. Now. The whole world is open to you, like you have no idea how much better your life will be if you just feel incredible every day.
Diane:Right, like how much longer do you want to like fight for like limitations and tolerating something instead of fighting for how good you could feel? And I used to do those, those calls too. And absolutely there were times where it just wasn't in someone's budget. And I never want for someone to hire a coach or invest in anything if like they're not gonna be able to pay their bills. Right? But then there were other times where people were like, I have a trip coming up. Or it just, they didn't feel like they needed to do it at that moment, but I thought, are you going to go on that trip and have diarrhea a few times a day? Or feel like you can't eat that food without like stomach acid burning your, or heartburn, burning your throat? Like it's just not, not the way to live.
Adina:Yeah, that's why our jobs are so freaking cool cuz like the transformations that we get to walk people through and then when we get to hear how much better their life is at the end of it, it's like really incredible. Um, but there was one other thing I wanted to say about like wellness, e advice that might not be right for you. So I think a lot of times people hear like, oh, fermented foods are so healthy. Like, fermented foods are amazing for you, especially if you have gut issues like, oh, they're so amazing,
Diane:Yes, but
Adina:but like, If you are dealing with chronic heartburn, so we know that the first domino of your digestion is not working and so the other dominoes are not falling down and you're gonna go ham on the sauerkraut or the kimchi or whatever other fermented beets you can get your hands
Diane:you're trying yogurt and wondering why your butt smells so bad.
Adina:Yeah, that stuff is not going to move through your digestion properly. Cuz quick review of the anatomy. We mentioned at the beginning of this episode, if your stomach does not reach the proper acidity and it does not turn that food into the proper acidity, it will not open those gates to move onto the next stage of digestion.
Diane:So then it sits.
Adina:these fermented foods just sitting in your tumtum and continuing to ferment and let off gas and pop out the other end and pop out the other end, like that's not gonna feel very good. And you're looking at the internet and thinking, wow, I must have to just go harder because this. Fit influencer. This wellness goddess told me that fermented foods are amazing. So again, it's not the food that's the problem. We just gotta sort out your digestion first.
Diane:your sphincters
Adina:Mm-hmm.
Diane:always gotta start
Adina:those sphincter
Diane:sometimes it's not just I. Fermented foods, but people are like, oh, salads, that's a health food. That's what I gotta do. And what happens with that roughage? It sits in your stomach and then it sits in your small intestine, which should be pretty sterile or that's not where your gut microbiome is. Right? But then it's sitting there and bacteria ends up there. And that's where people are like, oh shit, do I have sibo?
Adina:Yeah. Or like I eat broccoli and immediately need to shit to my pants. Like,
Diane:Like, no, no, not fun. So how do we fix it? Let's, let's do a quick rundown. We may have done this on a past episode, but we'll give you like a magic school bus. Little rundown of how we do things, how I do things with clients in root cause reset or on one-on-one. Basically the nutritional therapy way. So we talked earlier about avoiding trigger foods and reactive foods that are gonna cause that burn, right? And we also talked about how we don't like along. List of foods that you have to avoid. Yes. And during a healing phase, it can be bene. It is beneficial to avoid those trigger foods while you're healing, but it is not a place to stay.
Adina:Yep.
Diane:So I want you to hear that because we have shit on healing diets, symptom suppressive diets before. But they also can be helpful. We just see them, we see them used too long, and we see too many women who will have a list of foods that get narrower and narrower as far as what they can tolerate or think that they can digest, and then they hang out there. And we want for you to eat a wide variety of foods. So in a healing phase, that is a set amount of time in root cause reset. That's like eight weeks at least. If you're someone who has heartburn, we are avoiding certain foods while we are doing other things.
Adina:Yeah, and I just wanna say one more thing, like yes, it's a symptom suppressive diet and we don't wanna stay there, but if we're working on your healing, sometimes it's really nice to suppress symptoms so that we can have the stamina for healing. Like if you are trying to heal, but you're having chronic heartburn every single day while you're trying to heal, it can be really helpful to just calm some of those alarm systems down a little bit while we. Repair function in the gut. So again, if a doctor just hands you a list of foods and says, avoid these, and then you won't have heartburn, that's a red flag. But if you're walking through a healing protocol and you wanna avoid certain foods for a limited amount of time, keyword, short, limited amount of time to just calm down the alarms while we support function and healing, we we're down with that.
Diane:Yeah, totally. And I have inside a root cause reset, and when I'm working one-on-one, of course, Different food plants because there are different people enter for different reasons. Not everyone has heartburn and so some people don't have to baby their stomach as much as someone else. So there are options there. Um, so Adina mentioned we are suppressing, or b or soothing a little bit here, avoiding some reactive foods while we're working on function. And I, I always forget that not everyone knows what you mean by that. And someone I'm really glad she asked on Instagram, she's like, Diane, I see you mentioned functional support a lot. And what do you mean by that? Uh, so thank you for the reminder for me to break it down to digest that little bit. So why don't we talk about supporting function in nutritional therapy and stomach function. We want to increase your body's natural processes that are gonna help you break down food. So we want to. Up that stomach acid gently. We want to make sure that your bile is flowing and thin to digest the fat that you eat. So you're not someone who's like, oh yeah, I just can't have fat. I can't have dairy, I can't have butter, I can't have cream, and not forever and ever. Now we want to support your body's processes in making those things, in, releasing those things, and we have an order of operations with how that works too. So we wanna increase function, we wanna increase stomach acid, right? Especially if you're someone who has heartburn chronically. But first, and this is key part here, key part here is we need to calm that tummy down and sooth the stomach, especially soothe and repair the stomach lining if you're someone who has ulcers or gastritis or the more severe heartburn gerd, because if you were to just try to go in ham like Adina was talking about with that lemon water or apple cider vinegar, or you're trying to get that stomach acid back where it needs to be when you have heartburn. You're gonna have a hard time, and I've seen this so many times. Again, it's another case of people maybe like with the best intentions of following things they see on Instagram, but it's not individualized and it's not, it's just not what they need right now. And this is where I can't recommend working with a coach. Obviously I've biased and I love the way we do things in rcr, but I just don't want for you to think that, alright, this isn't meant for me. I need to go back onto Tums. Or I'm just someone who has heartburn.
Adina:Yeah.
Diane:Because what you are following likely was absent of things that are soothing the stomach and things that are going to get you towards being able to tolerate functional support. And then inevitably long-term goal, have your stomach, your whole GI tract functioning as it needs to.
Adina:Yeah. And also when it comes to functional support, we are always going to recommend as lean and mean as possible a list of supplements and so inside of Root Cause, reset. Based on your individualized assessment, Diane will walk you through what functional support is necessary for your specific situation. Like it is symptom specific and so we don't wanna just be like, here's a TikTok of the five things you need to take. If you have heartburn.
Diane:Yeah, I have some women entering RCR who are dealing with heartburn, others who don't really have much to speak of on the gut front, like many loud symptoms. So maybe they're focusing on like blood sugar or just general support. And then there are others who maybe had some gallbladder stuff they're working through or fat digestion, even people who have had gallbladder removes removed. And we have different tracks for each of them based on their assessment. You may have seen the graphs that I post on Instagram, but basically the front end of rcr, no matter. Who you are, what you're going through. We're going to focus on digestion because as we've mentioned here and on past episodes, digestion is the top domino we gotta worry about because it influences so many other systems in the body. And if your stomach is not acting right, then that's going to cause a cascade of stuff further south in your gut. So we always start there. It might just look a little bit different person to person. We're able to customize that in RCR week three of the program. And you can see a full overview of what we do week to week inside of the Root cause. Reset course week three extensively. Extensively covers how to customize your plan for stomach support, whether you have heartburn or you don't, and how to gently do that. So I lay out the plan for you in a digestible, unattended way. Inside the chorus, we have a few options. Um, I also get this question often and three times over the past week from people asking. Is RCR or the digestive support in there can, is that stuff that I can do when I'm pregnant, breastfeeding, or maybe I'm planning to be pregnant soon. Have fun trying to catch that baby. Um, and yes you can. I've had women who get pregnant while they're in root cause reset or are already pregnant. Joining the program, we just have some tweaks. There are definitely some things that we avoid in pregnancy, but we've talked in past episodes, like our third trimester episode, um, about heartburn and other stomach stuff that happens in pregnancy. Some of it's going to be a little bit unavoidable, especially late pregnancy, uh, because you have a little person that is pressing on your,
Adina:on your sphincters.
Diane:on your fingers. But, um, through working with pregnant clients one-on-one and rcr, the functional support that we have in there and stomach support in general can help with that, with nausea, with, um, with heartburn. So thanks to, think about.
Adina:Yeah. So I know you work with tons and tons of women on their digestive health, and we were sharing a little bit earlier about like how fun our jobs are because we get to really change people's lives. Can you maybe share with us an experience of a client who was dealing with heartburn
Diane:Yeah.
Adina:R C R?
Diane:Yeah. I know I've shared some stories on Instagram, my highlights, but we just wrapped up, oh my gosh. Those past. Monday, um, a live round of root cause reset plus coaching probably coming back in the fall. And it's the same stuff that we do in the, in the course. So you can get in there, but one of the ladies in there got rid of her heartburn and acid reflux and that was huge for her. And she got rid of it in just a few weeks. So we did, we really focused on gentle support and she just feels so much better. And not only that, like that's what one of the things she set out to focus on, but has seen other changes in her, her digestive health, her energy throughout the day, having a full-time job, having a couple of kids. And when you have that back and that's not one of those top of mind things that you're constantly worrying about, it opens up so much of your life. Like I just love hearing not only from her, but like clients who have done the course. Like a year ago I had a call with someone who's now doing an intensive right? And she was like, my bloat. The bloat that I was experiencing every day. Heartburn has got so much better and now we're just fine tuning. But like that was such a big part of their day-to-day was feeling that burn before and I'm just so happy that they can now tolerate a wider variety of foods and not worry about what's gonna happen after huge.
Adina:Yeah, that is amazing. And it's just so crazy. Like this is what I was getting at earlier with just like invest in your damn health because we've all had this experience, right? We have been in and out of doctor's offices for years, years struggling with this and someone just wrapped up 12 weeks with Diane and like, no more heartburn. You know, it's like crazy how quickly we, we can accomplish this thing when we actually understand how our bodies work and we use a proven framework that supports our digestion to do its thing so we, we can just live our
Diane:Mm-hmm.
Adina:enjoy, play with our kids, have the energy, eat the fun foods, go on vacation. Like, man, it makes me so angry when I think about all of the women that are just dealing with this.
Diane:Yeah. And told that that's just part of getting older, or some people just have that, not you. Not you. Boo
Adina:genetic.
Diane:Yeah, no, no ma'am. So if you wanna learn more about the nutritional therapy approach or even like an in-depth look, look at what's possible and then what we do week to week inside of the root cause. Reset self-study course. Grab my gut health guide so you can take a little peaky at that. And if you are beyond ready to get rid of heartburn, bubble gzz blowout. But not only that, improve energy day to day work on that blood sugar. Work on your hormone and metabolic health without overwhelm in a digestible way. Then get your booty inside a root cause. Reset my self-study course. This is the course I launched back in 2019, and since then, a couple hundred women have been through the process and many of them have come in. To tackle heartburn and walked out on the other side, being able to enjoy more food, more of their life. And I want that for you too. So you can get all the details there. And if you're not sure if you need to start there or if you need to dive deeper, then you can DM me, burn DM Me Burn so that it doesn't get lost with like other random like DM reactions or dms. And I'll know what you're, what you're coming in to talk about, but DME burn if you're unsure of which route is best for you. And we can chat through options or see what's, what's the best route, yey
Adina:That's B U R n Burn
Diane:or the fire emoji.
Adina:get your life sorted. Um, okay, we are at time here just about, let us wrap it out with some quick tips for supporting heartburn while you are getting at the root cause.
Diane:Yeah. And these are quick tips, not the solution, but some, some things that can help soothe you. So first up, don't get horizontal, whether it's laying down, going to sleep, I don't know, fooling around with somebody like right after eating. Maybe like give, give it some time an hour or two because we don't want gravity to work against us after our meals. Um, and also for training. There are some considerations here. What would you say Dina?
Adina:Yeah. Same kind of idea, but just be careful of quick position changes. Quick position changes while training. Like if you are eating pretty close to when you're training and then you're gonna go ahead and do some kettlebell swings and you're going up, you're going down, you're going up. You know, like that's not gonna feel good. I've had clients who are working on their heartburn have that experience, and so you wanna be really mindful of that.
Diane:Yeah, and some other quick symptom relief. You might even have some of this in your house. If you have ginger root, uh, like to slice it up and boil it in some water. Pour some boiling water on top to make a spicy, fresh ginger tea. Or some people prefer peppermint. So peppermint, peppermint, and ginger are two lovely things to calm the tummy or calm that down. Although I guess for some people, ginger might, if it's too spicy, that might not feel good on their heartburn. That could be for general like tummy aches, but peppermint can be soothing. Um, or if you are really actively, like tr going through it in a burn, you're at home, you could put a little baking soda in some water and throw that back like a small amount of water. Um, But those are some hot hippies. Those are things for symptom relief. But if you really want to address the root cause and then sort out your heartburn for good, then that is where I would highly suggest working together, working at ditching that heartburn.
Adina:Yeah, it does not have to be like this. Like you can feel so good. You can enjoy all the foods. You can go to sleep right after eating. You can do the position changes in your training, like life can be very, very wonderful and heartburn free.
Diane:Yes. Yeah. Let's get the acid sorted. Drink your water. Not a lot of it next to your meals, but drink your water otherwise. And unc unclench your bottoms fier.
Adina:Unc Unclench your bee hole. And yours sphincter.
Diane:All right, we love you.
Adina:Bye.