Get Your Shit Together

Sweating on Purpose

August 01, 2023 Adina and Diane Season 3 Episode 95
Sweating on Purpose
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Get Your Shit Together
Sweating on Purpose
Aug 01, 2023 Season 3 Episode 95
Adina and Diane

In this episode of Get Your Shit Together we chat about:

🧡 Detox pathways and how to gently support them

🧡 To sauna or not to sauna and the mineral connection

🧡 Natural deodorants we hate, and what actually works

🧡 Why you don’t sweat…or sweat too much

🧡 What’s going on with heat intolerance and histamine probs 

🧡 Electrolyte picks and passes, plus an Upgraderade recipe

🧡 Summertime shifts for better sweat and health


Episode Show Notes: www.getyourshittogetherpod.com/podcast/episode95  


Follow us on Instagram @getyourshittogetherpod 


Connect with Adina:

Instagram: @adinarubin_ 

Website: www.adinarubincoaching.com
Enroll in self-paced Strength Training for Happy Hormones (STHH)
Get on the waitlist for Adina’s postpartum program


Connect with Diane:

Instagram: @dianeteall

Website: www.diteawellness.com

Enroll in Root Cause Reset (self-study): www.rcrprogram.com

Week of 1:1 Coaching with Diane


Show Notes Transcript

In this episode of Get Your Shit Together we chat about:

🧡 Detox pathways and how to gently support them

🧡 To sauna or not to sauna and the mineral connection

🧡 Natural deodorants we hate, and what actually works

🧡 Why you don’t sweat…or sweat too much

🧡 What’s going on with heat intolerance and histamine probs 

🧡 Electrolyte picks and passes, plus an Upgraderade recipe

🧡 Summertime shifts for better sweat and health


Episode Show Notes: www.getyourshittogetherpod.com/podcast/episode95  


Follow us on Instagram @getyourshittogetherpod 


Connect with Adina:

Instagram: @adinarubin_ 

Website: www.adinarubincoaching.com
Enroll in self-paced Strength Training for Happy Hormones (STHH)
Get on the waitlist for Adina’s postpartum program


Connect with Diane:

Instagram: @dianeteall

Website: www.diteawellness.com

Enroll in Root Cause Reset (self-study): www.rcrprogram.com

Week of 1:1 Coaching with Diane


Adina:

Hello.

Diane:

Hi, happy Monday.

Adina:

Every Monday?

Diane:

We're recording I think.

Adina:

Yeah. Wait, my audio was low again. Okay. There we go. And there is my audio. What's that?

Diane:

Yeah, we're uh, we're recording on a Monday. We had some hiccups, but we're figuring it out. Just rolling with it, right?

Adina:

it's a Monday. It's a Monday. All right.

Diane:

and I'm here with my like third day hair. I've been

Adina:

Same.

Diane:

braids, so really liking that with pigtails. Thank you to those of you who sent me different hairstyling options for growing out short hair, because I don't wanna look and feel like Lord Far quad. It's not the look I'm going for this season. I feel like I'm gonna go play some sports or maybe like have a U F C cage fight because the women usually braid like toy, so you can't pull my hair, you

Adina:

like a U F C moment.

Diane:

Ooh, we had to flex somewhere. Is this the same shirt that you had

Adina:

No, this one is a scoop neck. I think the last one was a V and they didn't see the last one because the,

Diane:

the video

Adina:

the video was playing me. Lemme tell you something. I found out that like the upload and download speeds in Israel are apparently a problem. Like, that's like a thing that people know. I have a friend who is a videographer and just shared that information with me, so I think that's what's going on here.

Diane:

Great. Great, great. What year is it

Adina:

So good. I need to figure out some workarounds. I'm gonna talk to some photographer, videographer friends, and try to figure this out.

Diane:

Yes. In studio. We'll tell everyone for this, uh, show and tell. I don't know that I have a so and tell this week. None of my things are nearby. But show everyone what's on your hand. Adina got a tattoo.

Adina:

yeah, Minnie gave me a little temporary tat and because it's red, it keeps, I keep catching it out the corner of my eye and like thinking I'm bleeding. But

Diane:

little panic.

Adina:

she got, um, it was Minnie's birthday. She turned six. Big girl six. I know six feels like a first puberty kind of like there's a SAS that came with it, you know?

Diane:

Yeah, and she already had some

Adina:

yeah, so that's been a time for the family. Um, so we had her little beach birthday party. It was lovely. I made quite the spread. I. I kept it kind of simple'cause like we had to schlep everything to the beach and it was hot out, so I didn't want too many things like bacon in the sun. But I made sourdough grilled cheeses, lots of'em. And then I just like cut up a whole bunch of fruits and veggies and I made a really yummy ranch for dipping. And then I made sourdough chocolate chip cookies and I made a cake upon mini's request, which was a sourdough chocolate cake with an espresso buttercream. And I was like, this cake is gonna separate the men from the boys. Like, I don't know if kids like this.

Diane:

The bitter. Yeah. What did the other kids think of it?

Adina:

I think it was like some people liked it and some people didn't, but the parents were happy and the cookies were a huge hit. So I'm glad I made those just'cause I didn't want anyone to be like, the food at this party sucks. Um,

Diane:

Well, you have bad taste. Goodbye.

Adina:

This call is not for Diane. This call is for the Gilmore's, the Gilmore Girls Girlies

Diane:

Okay, bye.

Adina:

okay, if you remember in Gilmore Girls, when Suki and Lorelei like start that catering company and Suki tries to cater this kid's birthday party and she has so out of touch with children and like makes them all these foods that are disgusting and they don't eat like,

Diane:

You don't like caviar, stuff like

Adina:

yeah, that's what I felt like when I was prepping for this party.'cause I was like, do kids eat Maldon salt on their sourdough chocolate chip cookies? He was like, what is happening in this kitchen?

Diane:

Well, they should

Adina:

They did update, they did

Diane:

touch. Good. Great. Well, it sounds like a great birthday party. Beach time. And you said you didn't want food, bacon in the sun. And for a second I was like, you had bacon for Minnie's birthday party. Yeah, yeah. I, I finally put that together, but happy birthday to, to mini. What else are you watching over there? Are you still watching the bear?

Adina:

We finished the bear, which Spoily for the bear, but what a journey. What a journey. We went on this season. You need to catch up so we can talk about it.

Diane:

that, uh, gene Wilder. Willy Wonka looking boy. Looking real buff in the pop shots. That's what I've seen recently on my Instagram feed is, uh,

Adina:

yeah. People are into

Diane:

in the show?

Adina:

People are

Diane:

I don't even know his Hi. The character's name. I forget. I just know he's chef.

Adina:

chef. Um, but because we just finished watching them and then I was prepping for this party, I was just, you know, Donnie and I were just chef bantering a lot. I wonder if chefs are enjoying that show or if they're seeing a lot of holes in like the kitchen scenes. I feel like they had to have consulted people because like some of this stuff is very specific, you know?

Diane:

Mm-hmm.

Adina:

Um, but there was one thing I wanted to say about that.

Diane:

chef pals. I know we have some, after reading some of their stories that they submitted last week's episode.

Adina:

Yeah. D must let us know if you're enjoying the bear or if it's irking you the way that like, fitness television irks me. Um, on that note about Oh yeah. After prepping for this party, like, I love nourishing my friends and family. I love making the food for my kids' birthday parties and like that kind of stuff we're having friends over, but man, if you cater, you like private chef, small events, like woof. I dunno how you do it. It's a lot.

Diane:

kitchen,

Adina:

Yeah. I don't know though. It's, you're still on your feet all day and it's still like, it's not for me. I like cooking slowly for a small amount of people.

Diane:

Mm-hmm. A lot of chefs I know are into, uh, cigarettes, caffeine, Adderall, a combination of those to make them go, go.

Adina:

Yeah, the go-go juices. I can see it.

Diane:

Yeah. Although now you say, go-go Juice. There's a comedy podcast that I listen to and it has a very different context. Um, moving on, if I, if anyone watching sees me looking off, I'm like, willing with my eyes and my mind, this man across the street to stop mowing his grass, like during the hottest part of the day. What are we doing?

Adina:

to sleep. Just take a

Diane:

What are we doing here? Yeah, I'm not seeing it on my audio well over here. I didn't watch like anything the last week, so I believe I did mention on last week's recording, I went home Thursday and home to Virginia Beach where most of my folks live. My, my family, extended family

Adina:

of your folks.

Diane:

yeah, most of my folks live down there. Uh, my grandpa, my PopPop passed away on the 18th, so we pushed back the services because we had so many relatives that wanted to come in from out of town, and it was. I mean, unfortunate circumstances to reunite under, you know, this occasion. But we had family from as far as Canada, California, Denver, Utah, some that traveled with their little kids because they knew and loved my pop-ups so, so well, and I think I mentioned last episode too, my grandparents, they immigrated here in the early sixties, and my grandpa was one of 12 children,

Adina:

many.

Diane:

he was the only one who did make it to the States. So he was in the Philippine Navy, joined the Navy, the US Navy, and came over here with my mom and her brothers. And they were so loved, so generous. And so that was very seen in just how many people came out to celebrate him. So it was a very emotional weekend for me. And my brother did a beautiful speech at the wake

Adina:

Wait, pause. If anyone saw the pictures on on Instagram. Donnie and I were like dying from how much Gannon looks like him.

Diane:

Doesn't he? It is wild and I'm getting dms from people too, saying, um, that my smile, my eyes kind of remind them of my grandfather too. And now looking at all the old photos, I see it. But my brother bears a striking resemblance to him and he actually wore to the wake and to the funeral, one of a couple of my granddad's barong. It's a traditional Filipino shirt. It looks kinda like a Cuban shirt if you've seen those kind of gauzy. And they usually have some kind of embroidery on them. So my brother wore some of my grandpa's shirts from the sixties and they fit him like perfectly. So that was real sweet to see. Um, a priest that I remember when I grew up and grew up in the Catholic church as a kiddo who came out of retirement to do this funeral mass for my grandfather. And he gave a really moving homily and like cried through the homily and like. Some cousins played violin for my grandpa. We had a great reception afterwards, which was really nice. And there was this Filipino bakery, I'll put the name or the details in the show notes if you happen to be in Virginia Beach, Norfolk area in Virginia. She made UBE cookies. So Uey is like a

Adina:

It's having a moment.

Diane:

It is because Trader Joe's has uey pancake mix that is really lovely. So she made uey crinkle cookies and she also made this uey mocha cake. So a couple layers were mocha, almost like a tiramisu flavor. And then others were uey. So that's a little bit more neutral. But she uses coconut sugar and she gets coconut, organic coconut from somewhere. Um, my mom said New Jersey, but I was like, wait, what? Imported from New Jersey?

Adina:

The best coconut in all the land.

Diane:

And all the land from New Jersey, but whatever it was, it was really good. And it was just so nice to celebrate the life of my grandpa. We were really, really close and he was just the sweetest, kindest guy who cracked crab legs for me until last year. And he's always was such a big cheerleader when I started my business in every FaceTime. So I was asking, how many clients do you have? How was your business? So he's gonna live on, in memory 98, about 98 years. That was a long life, but still to a really big loss for us. So we're really missing him.

Adina:

Yeah, that's really special. I'm glad you had that opportunity. Um, Donnie saw your picture on Instagram also and said that he has that quality where like you look at his face and can just tell how sweet he is. You know?

Diane:

He does. I think he smiled with his whole face. And um, when I took a picture with him last visit, he als he turned to me and he's like, you know, people tell me I have a nice smile. And I go, you do pop, pop. And he chuckled, but he always liked fart jokes. And then he would laugh hysterically at guacamole, like he thought that was the funniest word. Um, so love that. And so I don't have many other food things to share except I did go hard on lumpia, which is a Filipino egg roll. They're very thin and crunchy. If you're thinking of like Chinese egg rolls, those are usually thicker, full of more vegetables. There are like some carrots in lumpia, but it's mostly about the pork, about the filling, and they're so crunchy. So I went hard on those and in my posts that I shared today, I shared a tribute to my pop-up, but at the end I also share a recipe I shared last fall. It is Ros Caldo, which is like a chicken rice porridge. It's traditionally made when you're feeling sick, when you have a tummy ache, but I also find it soothing if you're having a heartache too. And when I shared it last fall, some clients made it and so they really liked it. It is just so gingery garlicy. I like putting soft oiled eggs on top and having like a really oatmeal like consistency so you can make it in the Instant Pot. And I wanted to share it with everyone because my grandparents really taught me so much about my Filipino culture identity, but also about food as a love language. So I wanted to share that with you because my grandpa used to one. Rub my tummy when I had a stomach ache and he would say, hurt, go away. And now looking back at the way he would rub my stomach, it was kind of like the, a stomach massage I've shared with clients before. Uh, but there's just something to that and to Vix if you're Latina or Filipino, you know, the Bix is something that you put on everything to make her go away. But also food. And this really soothing brothy, garlicy ginger rice with chicken or eggs on top is super yum.

Adina:

yummy.

Diane:

So I'll link that in the feed if you want to in the feed, in the show notes.

Adina:

In the show feed notes.

Diane:

show feed notes. Yeah.

Adina:

Nice, nice, nice.

Diane:

that was this weekend. Oh, and I got beach time too. And thought of you.

Adina:

God for the beach time.

Diane:

yeah. My best, my childhood bestie was like, do you wanna spend half the day at the beach before the wake? And I said, of course. So we picked up breakfast and brought it to the beach. The water felt like bath

Adina:

Yeah, that's what we have here now is the best.

Diane:

It was like 95 degrees with a thousand percent humidity there in Virginia Beach, and the heat index was like over a hundred. So yeah, we, we got sweaty, which I know we're gonna be talking about. Today's getting, getting hot, sweaty.

Adina:

sweaty.

Diane:

Yeah. But before we do, I have to read a review that I don't think we read. Yeah, we didn't read this one last week, but, oh, we did share it on our Instagram feed. So this one is from Girl with the Braves seven, nine. I think I know who this is. I think this is maybe a mutual client of ours. And her five star review is titled, comfort with an Edge of Snark. Oh, this is the podcast I listen to when I have had a bad day, and I just need a dose of honest, real people talking about things that matter to my wellbeing. Idina and Diane are reliably real and true to themselves. And even when I disagree with them, I still learn from and respect them.

Adina:

We love

Diane:

We res, we respect and love you too.

Adina:

Diane and I had the same reaction when we read this review. We were both like, but what do you disagree with? Tell us. We need to know.

Diane:

Yeah, we are just curious. We're curious, but I love that, I love this review because really we, I want for people to be open to hearing from different perspectives and from learning from others, even when you don't co-sign every single thing that we share. That's growth baby.

Adina:

is growth bait B, and I love the title of this review because I don't know if I've ever shared this with you, but my first name is not Adina. My first name is Deborah.

Diane:

Oh, I know this.

Adina:

yeah, so my name is Deborah Adina, and in Hebrew it's Devora Adina, which means gentle B. And in grad school we did this whole exercise about like what your name means to you and if you like connect with your name as a part of your personality, or if you feel like it was never the right name for you, whatever. Anyways, so I was like journaling on that a bit, and I really feel like that's where I'm at, you know, like there's a little bit of a sting, but we're

Diane:

Your gentle bee. Oh, I love that. I did not know that about you. Yeah.

Adina:

Yeah. So that's what the title of this review feels like for me.

Diane:

I like it. I love it. So yeah, you can go and leave us a a five star review if you like. If you've got a minute.

Adina:

Yeah, do

Diane:

Takes just a minute. Do it. Do it. Yeah. Well, in the spirit of July, end of July, early August, the humidity is humid,

Adina:

Yes.

Diane:

the heat is hot. Hotting.

Adina:

had a heat wave this last week.

Diane:

Oh, I mean, Arizona is on fire. Aliens,

Adina:

a minute.

Diane:

aliens are being disclosed. Like there's all, all kinds of things going on in that desert.

Adina:

A lot happening.

Diane:

Yeah, that that's the only news I've been up on is the alien disclosures, but lots of heat. So chances are you're sweating or maybe you are just covering yourself head to toe in some antiperspirant. We're gonna talk about that. Maybe you have been eyeing a sauna or a sauna blanket and you wanna sweat the bed. I don't know your life.

Adina:

maybe you're like, I don't sweat.

Diane:

Yes, I hear that a lot. I've s I've said it before I sparkle or Yes. Yeah. Some people have said, myself included. Well, I just, I just don't sweat. Must be nice. Or is it? So we're gonna talk about all of that. So sweat in its role of det as a detox pathway, as a way to get that shit out that is not serving us as a way to move your, as a result of moving your beautiful body. It's role in metabolism and it's so much more. And how to hydrate yourself and stay sweaty intentionally.

Adina:

Yes. Yeah. This episode came out of when I started reflecting on the fact that I really enjoy sweating on purpose as long as I am, like in clothing appropriate for sweating. So either like a bathing suit or workout clothes, or even just like a light t-shirt and

Diane:

Something breathable

Adina:

I can get down with sweating, but if I'm like dressed for a wedding or

Diane:

in polyester. That's one thing I can't, I cannot, with polyester scratchy stuff anymore, I just can't do it. Or

Adina:

that organic cotton.

Diane:

like I have some cotton linen gray shirts, but there's something about gray and sweating. Just big old, big old sweat circles that I would rather not have. So,

Adina:

So a nice thing about here is like, I feel like no one caress if you have sweat stains here. I felt like in my old

Diane:

It's more cash.

Adina:

in my old life, it was like we were all supposed to pretend we weren't sweaty when we got to places, you know?

Diane:

It's funny you mentioned that maybe this must be, I mean, go with the beach territory. Right. Because in Virginia Beach, Bridget and I went to the beach, that was my, my bestie and we were gonna go get some seafood after. And I was like, oh, well I don't really wanna put a top over my sandy sweaty body. And she was like, just go in in your top, your swim top. No one caress. No one cares. They didn't. Sure enough.

Adina:

Yeah, the beach town, it has a good thing going.

Diane:

Yeah. So I exfoliate myself with sand and sunblock.

Adina:

call that sch sniffling yourself. Um,

Diane:

Thoroughly breaded. Yeah.

Adina:

OEE recently started, so he loves the water and I like sit him in my lap on the shoreline and he'll like splash and try to crawl away from me. It's the cutest thing. But recently I just like let him run free on the beach and he just like crawls around in the sand. But he hard coerced schnitzel himself. Like he'll be crawling and he'll faceplant into the sand and emerge like a grizzly bear, just like schnitzel face. It's so cute.

Diane:

I feel like last summer when you moved out there, you sent me some photos of Abe and maybe there was food nearby or involved. So not only was he schnitzel, but so where his, so was his fruit and just everything around

Adina:

Yeah. Don't share food with kids at the beach. Don't do it.

Diane:

you're just gonna eat it.

Adina:

It's so sandy.

Diane:

So, so what is sweating? Why do we, do we really need to do it? Or is it just some kind of inconvenience that we can just avoid?

Adina:

Yeah, I mean like the conventional deodorant industry convinced us for years that we weren't a du do that.

Diane:

Yeah, if you don't like it, just stop it.

Adina:

Just slather that aluminum under your arms right next to those lymph nodes and your breast tissue and be on with it.

Diane:

Mm-hmm. Yeah. And it's, oh, I went hard on that. Or the dove spray. And I had friends that would not only use it under their arms, but just anywhere they sweat behind the knees, just trying to block that. But if we're not sweating, that's gotta go somewhere, or it's staying inside. And so when we mention things like detox pathways, you might have heard us talk about your poop, but sweating is also a detox pathway.

Adina:

very important one.

Diane:

Mm-hmm.

Adina:

Just like, okay, here's the way we can think about it. Just like when you have a skin issue, we have told you before, you know, if you have eczema, rashes, stuff going on, psoriasis, that is an alarm from the body because the body is trying to rid the toxins and the skin is an organ and it breathes. And so if you can look at rashes and think to yourself, this is my body trying to get stuff out because we're not eliminating via poop or we're not sweating, you know, like our body is, needs to eliminate certain things. There are certain things that come through the body that need to come out of the body and your body's gonna find a way. So maybe sweat has slowed down and we'll talk a little bit more about why that happened. Maybe. You've been not sweating for so long that you don't even like consider it an issue, or you just think of yourself as, I'm a person who doesn't sweat, I just don't sweat, but

Diane:

maybe you are not, not only not sweating, but other detox pathways are not going well. You're constipated. Your liver is congested and overburdened by chemicals in your environment, from medications, from excess sugar or alcohol, caffeine, other things that it's processing. Maybe you've heard things about limp and limp drainage being sexy, but that's also not moving and you're not maybe physically moving as much as, uh, you, oh, I'm cracking my knuckles. Oopsie. Oopsie, as much as you would like to. Your respiratory system is also another detox pathway, but the skin is a big one and I gotta sweat some shit out sometimes.

Adina:

So true. Yeah. I think like I. I feel sad for all the people out there who are just like shallow breathing and not circulating that air, who are just not sweating and plugging those holes up with aluminum deodorant, who are not pooping, who are sedentary and just sitting like, these are all so many opportunities to get things moving and to get the, the yuckies out. I think about um, when we were on our honeymoon in Hawaii and we were on our honeymoon in Hawaii, um, and we went on this like boat situation and they were given this whole preamble about seasickness and they were just saying like, there's nothing wrong with it. Just get the yuck out sometimes you just gotta get the yuck out. I did end up getting the yuck out over the side of the boat by the way.

Diane:

You did.

Adina:

was funny because Donnie was nauseous the whole time and I was fine. And then out of nowhere I just like felt nausea, went to the back of the boat, barfed, and then I was fine, but you just gotta get the yuck out, you know?

Diane:

I have not had the misfortune of seasickness or motion. I used to get motion sick years ago. Um, Couldn't read, couldn't really do anything in on car trips. And now I'm just like glued to a book or a Kindle. There's definitely a liver health component there.

Adina:

Yeah. Um, it was kind of a spiritual experience, just like barfing into the sea and watching the fish come and eat it.

Diane:

Chum in chum. Chum in. Well, if you heard of like intentionally sweating, maybe you're thinking as you listen to this episode, oh, I've been in the sauna before. Maybe you're curious about it and think maybe that's the thing to do. But we're also gonna talk about is it for everyone and when to implement something like that because I think it's

Adina:

everyone on Instagram told me that I should buy a sauna right now.

Diane:

Yes. Via right now, it's the thing to do. Or get a gym membership with Asana and see how long you can go in there. I've heard people boast like, I can hang in there for 30 to 45 minutes. And I'm like, and how are we replenishing our minerals? How are we staying hydrated? And it's just not the thing for some people just yet.

Adina:

Yes. And oh, the really the trendy one is like you gotta do intervals. You gotta do the sauna and then the cold plunge, and then sauna it up and cold plunge it. And we gotta do rounds there like,

Diane:

Totally. And that's something that Neil likes, and I know I don't tell him what to do, but I'm like, Hey, notice if you are feeling really, really stressed. If you're someone who historically liked hit and bootcamp classes, the intensity. And then if you're also bringing that intensity to your recovery tools like Sauna. So like Adina said, are you cycling through? Are you seeing how long you could push yourself in there? And how are you feeling later that day or the next day? What's your recovery like after you do sauna or hot yoga? That's another one that people love to do.

Adina:

makes me feel so nimble.

Diane:

Extra flexible, and I mean, I'm calling myself out too, because I remember thinking, oh, well, I can just get a real good sweat on. I'm getting a really good workout in because they're kicking my ass while I'm sweating and not sure if I'm gonna pass out on the mat or not. So that must mean that it's

Adina:

That's so good for you. Um, But we've talked about this before when we talked about keto for sure. Uh, when we talked about high intensity workouts, it's important to note that stressed feeling, stressed, stress hormones feel very good until they very don't. So you may think something like this is working for you. You may have heard, okay, so I'm not sweating, so I need to be sweating, so I'm gonna start using a sauna'cause that will get me sweating. So that will get my detox pathways flowing. But it's not where you start. You need to make sure that your body has the resilience to tolerate a stress like that. If you are not sweating, just sitting in the sauna and trying to get some sweat out is not gonna solve the underlying metabolic issue that we are learning about because you are not sweating.

Diane:

Yeah. I mean, I, it took me a few years before I bought a son. I bought one. I think last fall and now I'm in a state, especially with all the stress of losing Huey, our dog, Huey, of losing my grandpa some other work and just general life related stress and my recent H T M A that made me think, alright, let's hit pause on this. This is something that can be helpful. But right now in this season, the amount of stress that it adds is too much. And when I do bring that sauna back, I'm going to approach it a lot more gently. So what it won't look like is definitely not doing 30, 45 minute sprints. It would be something like starting really low, uh, not, not that high heat, not much of a high heat, and lot shorter amount of time. So definitely are some ways that I would have myself and others who are stressed and in that really slow metabolic state, ease into something like sauna

Adina:

That is so big of you as a practitioner to be able to like audit your routine and say that, you know, like I think it's so easy for us as practitioners to just pretend everything's working for us and

Diane:

Or think we're above the rules. I mean,

Adina:

Yeah.

Diane:

guilty until my, uh, one of my recent htma called me out and I was like, all right, this is one of the first things to go because what we're not gonna do is over withdraw our mineral bank account if it's already looking sad.

Adina:

But like we were just saying, it's hard to say goodbye to'cause it feels good, right? Like if you've been in Asana, you know it feels good and that's why you like doing it. And then you convince yourself that it's good for you. But, um, is it, are we in a place where we can tolerate this And it's actually helpful.

Diane:

Yeah. Yeah. It can, it's there when you can eventually bring it back, but it can be confronting to have to take a break from something like that. For sure. I. But let's talk about what, what's going on if you don't sweat? So, I've said this before in years past, and I know I have heard it from clients, maybe you've heard it too, from people starting ss h h, like, whoa, I just, I don't sweat. And it's almost like a flex, right? Like, because they don't feel uncomfortable, they're not pitting out their shirts, but what's really going on there?

Adina:

Yeah. So the first thing I would ask if you say you don't sweat is like, are you, and have you been using conventional deodorant for eternity?'cause I would start there, like, I would get rid of the antiperspirant that contains aluminum. Aluminum, like, When I, okay. This is a hu think about your armpits for a second. Let's all think about our armpits.

Diane:

think about, that's why I wore a tank top today. Laser hair removal, laser hair removal.

Adina:

Nice. Um, so let's think about our armpits for a second. And when I am postpartum, I, the first time I was postpartum with Minnie, I remember being like, okay, my body is foreign to me. What just happened? Like, I don't know anything that's going on with me. Like, whose boobs are these? What's happening? You know, just like so many questions. We have so many questions. Why does my sweat smell like cheese curls? Just so many

Diane:

Babies love cheese curls.

Adina:

So I remember very vividly being in the shower and I was scrubbing my armpits and I felt something and I was like, uhoh, like, do I have to get this checked out? Is there something wrong with me?

Diane:

I think you might have told me about this because we were freshly

Adina:

Yeah, and basically it felt like something was like swollen in my armpit and I was like, uhoh is something very wrong. And then I learned that it was a milk duct and my milk ducts extend into my armpits. And at the time I was like newly, this was 2017, and I was newly really changing over everything in my home to safer products. And that hit me like a ton of bricks. I was just like, I have been putting conventional deodorant into these here armpits, knowing that skin absorbs everything. And if you are still in denial, that skin absorbs everything. Like think about like a nicotine patch,

Diane:

or magnesium

Adina:

yeah, but like I feel like nicotine patch is a better conventional example. Diane, if they don't know that the skin absorbs things,

Diane:

yeah.

Adina:

so like, yeah. Or a hormone patch, like doctors use skin for. Transdermal absorption all the time, but like when we start to call out, that skincare gets absorbed into your bloodstream. Everyone's all like, no, you could use conventional products. It's fine. Anyways, so

Diane:

I mean, look at the H T M A. I'll see aluminum, and there are a number of reasons that aluminum can show up on there, but I have seen it on those fast metabolizers like, Ooh, have you grown up with lots of conventional deodorant?

Adina:

yeah. Anyways, like if I'm putting conventional deodorant on these here armpits, and like literally my milk ducks extend into this, is that going in my milk? Like what's happening here? This is

Diane:

And you got some big lymph nodes, big lymph nodes, big lymph nodes here.

Adina:

gonna have to mark this one X-rated Diane.

Diane:

I mean, yeah. Well here, lymph nodes are here. There's some mig. It's one of the big main drains over there. So put in that by that system,

Adina:

So anyways, the reason we're honing in on this is because if you're a person who thinks you don't sweat, why don't we like remove that variable and find out if maybe now you sweat. You know,

Diane:

Yes, yes, yes, yes. And if you're concerned about being stinky, maybe you will, maybe you won't. And there are so many options, which we'll talk about in a second. But as you improve your internal environment, manage things like bacterial, bacterial balance, um, fungal overgrowth, if that's something that you're dealing with, mineral balance, you'll stink less. I've seen it. I've done it too

Adina:

baby.

Diane:

Yes. Um, there is a supplement that I will suggest to some of my one-on-one clients when we do their testing, and I am suggesting it for its mineral qual, like the minerals that it includes. But on the label it says internal deodorant. And they're like, is this, is this what you meant? And I go, yes, yes. But that is one of the benefits.

Adina:

Yeah, so from the internal perspective, there's a lot we can do with nutrition, gut health supplementation, mineral balance that will improve the smell of your sweat. You should be sweating. You want to be sweaty. I know that the conventional deodorant industry and the conventional beauty industry, like somehow convinced you that you shouldn't be sweaty.

Diane:

Just stop any bodily function that

Adina:

yeah, just shut it down. It obviously has no reason to be happening. Um, yeah, but you can improve the smell. With things like all of the stuff we just talked about. You can also use natural deodorants. It's a trial and error situation.'cause everyone's skin reacts different to them. But I have in the past really like the primely pure charcoal.

Diane:

Love, love, love,

Adina:

the goat. Um,

Diane:

with the, yeah, the goat, the, the favorite. I think that we both cosign. I think I've tried no less than like 20 different options because I went to like a Whole Foods or Fresh Thyme health food store and grabbed the crystal. That was maybe the first one. It was just like this rock looking thing that you wet and rub on your armpits. There are far too many, far too many options that have a heavy patchouli note, and I think that's what give Patchouli. And if there's anyone out there who likes patchouli, you have bad taste. I'm sorry. It is too strong. And there is

Adina:

We're gonna get a review now from like a patchouli farmer. That's gonna be like

Diane:

A patchouli pal. Listen, there is something about patchouli that amplifies the smell of body odor. It's disgusting. You smell disgusting and no one wants to be around you. So when that is like the main note in an A natural deodorant, I'm upset. I'm upset.

Adina:

are you in your cycle right now?

Diane:

I'm actually about to drop an egg. I'm on that white moon cycle. So this is, I have such strong opinions about patchouli. This is the hill. I

Adina:

patchouli or

Diane:

it's the Jonah Hill I will die on. Okay. If anyone knows that recent pop culture stuff. But beyond the patchouli, there are good options. Now you just gotta seek'em out and hear it from me. Who has tried like 20 of them when Adina, I tell you, the primarily pure charcoal deodorant is good. There are others. So Adina also mentioned like depending on your skin sensitivity or how, yeah, how sensy your skin is. There are a lot of natural deodorants that can. Peel your armpits off and

Adina:

are very baking soda heavy.

Diane:

very baking soda heavy. And that is too basic. It's too basic, right? We want it to be a little acidic under there. And I remember, ugh, I was using schmitz successfully for a little bit. Like it smelled really good. You'll probably see it at Target. And I was doing a pushup one day in the gym and I felt something and my armpit quite literally peeled off the skin, peeled

Adina:

I hate this.

Diane:

It was raw.

Adina:

Oh no.

Diane:

Not something that I want to be raw. No. So

Adina:

from that? Like was it itchy?

Diane:

it, it was just, it was really tendy, it burned. And Neil, my husband, or anyone who doesn't shave their pits, like live your life, do whatever you wanna do with your body hair. I like to remove mine. Neil has hair under his, under his arms. So I think that for him, it didn't bother him. His skin isn't as sensitive, so, He used it successfully, but I'd say Primely Pure is still like the best

Adina:

I had success with the Beauty Counter one for a little while. And I still have some of the like minis that I'll use. Like again, if I'm,

Diane:

in a

Adina:

I, if, if I have to be at like a wedding or something, but I honestly just like don't wear deodorant ever. Um,

Diane:

don't stink.

Adina:

yeah. And you could do something like an armpit mask, which is gonna sound really crunchy and crazy if you've never heard about it. But one of the ingredients in that primarily pure charcoal deodorant is charcoal.'cause charcoal does a really great job of like pulling out impurities. So if you find you're a little stinky, you can try out an armpit mask, look it up. It's basically like apple cider vinegar and like charcoal bentonite clay or whatever

Diane:

the beauty counter charcoal mask on

Adina:

as a Yeah, that works too.'cause it has both those ingredients and I think,

Diane:

and it's not too stripping too. Yeah. That is one product I still like from them for sure.

Adina:

So, um, give that a shot and then, um, DM us and tell us how it worked for you.

Diane:

yeah, let us know. I think native is okay too. I tried that, but I'd say primarily pure great one and that they smell really nice. So Adina and I mentioned the charcoal. I think that's, that's my favorite. They also have a lemongrass scent, which I really like, but the packaging is nice and I find that their, their actual bottle tube, whatever you wanna call it, lasts me both a long time during the day and just the packaging itself seems to last for a while. I also like Adino is saying, feel like I don't use deodorant as much anymore. I still sweat. So this isn't going to prevent you from sweating. Of course, but I don't smell.

Adina:

Yeah. Um, they also have, what's the other one? Blue Tanzi. People like that one. It's a little perfumy for me for a deodorant, but

Diane:

It's kind of gotta think a jasmine scent to it.

Adina:

maybe for like the lotions and such, um, we should reach out to them and get a code.

Diane:

Yeah, they changed their affiliate program. I, I wasn't affiliate with them because

Adina:

right

Diane:

I love their little lip balms. I love their, their, um, dry shampoo, which I also don't use as often anymore. Now I've like switched up things with my scalp, but they have a dark dry shampoo and cocoa powder is one of the main ingredients. So sometimes I like smelling like a chocolate bar. Other times I'm like, do I have chocolate on my head? I do. I have cacao on my head. Cacao,

Adina:

Um, my kids always smell like chocolate.'cause here's the thing about toddlers, which like if anyone out there feels me, just, you know, give me a thumbs up. You can give them one chocolate chip and it can somehow cover every ounce of their skin.

Diane:

Like, how did it, how did, how did it get

Adina:

There was not that much chocolate in the chocolate chip. Like how are you covered in chocolate?

Diane:

There is. Um, so we're looking for a new couch because we've had the same one. It was like the first big girl purchase that I made. It's like a fake leather couch. So it's very easy to wipe, but I want something soft. And I found a couple of options that are performance fabric, echo text certified, so they're not sprayed with a bunch of weird shit. Right. And in their videos they're showing this is pet and toddler friendly. So they did show a couple of cute, cute little dogs on it, and then they were pouring like red wine or spaghetti sauce on it. But I wanna see like an actual, like toddler, just toddler on it

Adina:

yes. Let me see that. I will lend them Abe, he is out of

Diane:

mean, I don't have, we don't have toddlers, but um, I have nieces and nephews and Doug is basically a crazy toddler.

Adina:

Just about,

Diane:

Just about same thing

Adina:

yeah, babies and puppies are not that different. Ori is in his phase of puppy hood where he started trying to reach into the toilet. So love that for us.

Diane:

ew. Hope everyone flushes. So,

Adina:

Abe definitely doesn't flush, so there's that too. It's a lethal combination.

Diane:

oh my God. Maybe you're not someone who says, I don't sweat. Perhaps you're sitting here like, oh, sweating is no problem. Because I do that a lot. I do it a lot.

Adina:

Yes. I am always embarrassed by how much sweat is dripping from everywhere on Maba Day. If you're one of those gals, what's that about?

Diane:

What is that about? So oftentimes behind the scenes here, what's going on is adrenal issues. Your stress glands, they are working hard. So your body's like, Hey, we gotta mobilize. We gotta mobilize all our resources. We're about to run from a predator, so we gotta work hard, fast metabolizers. If, if you're someone who doesn't, H T M A, H T M A hair test with me, and we look at it, we see you're a fast metabolizer, you might be someone who sweats a lot, even at rest. And so what's happening is you're burning through your fuel faster than you can replenish it constantly living in that sympathetic, that fight or flight state.

Adina:

Wait, pause for a second.'cause I know this was confusing to me the first time I ever looked at an H T M A, and I know we mentioned this on one episode a long time ago, but some people are listening for the first time. Some people don't pay attention to every single word. They're gonna fail the test. Um, but a fast metabolism. That sounds amazing. Diane, that sounds like something I want. Can you explain to me why being a fast metabolizer as it shows up on the H T M A might be harming my health or might be the reason why I'm experiencing all these symptoms?

Diane:

Toes. So ideally we want to live somewhere in the middle. There's no perfect static state that we can have for our metabolism, but we want flexibility. And if you're a fast metabolizer, you might have grown up thinking like, oh, that means I must be skinny. Ugh,

Adina:

I'm so skinny.

Diane:

skinny. And I'm just like, say skinny, and I'm burning through fuel. But what we're seeing, especially when we're working with clients one-on-one, I'm looking at hdma. If they're a fast metabolis metabolizer, their body's getting the message that we need to burn through all this fuel now constantly, all day, every day. And they're over withdrawing their nutritional bank account, their mineral bank account, and then over time can start. Breaking down their tissues, um, oftentimes too, I'll see people on the opposite side of that, where they spend a lot of time in that fight or flight for a really long time. They don't have that flexibility to go between the sympathetic, the fight or flight into the parasympathetic or rest and digest, slower side. And they are exhausted. They are maybe also having issues with their hormones. And so when we say fast metabolism, that doesn't just mean, oh, someone's skinny and they, you know, they can eat all they want. No, they might also be very stressed, breaking down their tissues and really working over time when it comes to stress response. So that's not something we want. We wanna be something somewhere in the middle,

Adina:

Yeah, think about it as like a fast metabolizer might be like actively under a lot of stress and currently using a lot of resources, and then that slow metabolizer might be like, They were there for a bit and now everything's just bottomed out depleted. They used up all those resources.

Diane:

Yeah. Yeah. And a fast metabolizer. I'll see a lot of those main minerals that we talk about. Um, those will be really low because they're churning and burning through those, and you can change things. So sometimes people feel discouraged, like, oh, I've just, you always had a slow metabolism. That's just how it is. Especially I, as I get older. But I have seen, and it can be hard to do, but I have seen my one-on-one clients who went from a fast four, like a really fast metabolizer last year, done the work. They implemented a lot of approachable food and lifestyle changes, and now they're slow ones, closer to the middle. They're feeling more resilient to stress, feeling like they can sleep better, they can sweat appropriately. They're pooping regularly, better periods. So it, it can take some time. But yeah, we want to just, With our metabolism. We wanna feel ourselves sweating appropriately as a response to heat, to exercise, to movement, um, but not just sweating the bed or sweating profusely, or not sweating at all.

Adina:

Yes. what can a super sweaty person do?

Diane:

Yeah. So while you're working on the internal environment, something that I invite clients to do is to cave down and cool down. I think we talked about this in our g y s team, minicourse, we talk about sleep and the environment that you can set yourself up for, for success at night. So, cave down, cool down and wear some cotton breathable fabrics. Polyester, trendy, great sometimes, but it's just not letting you breathe. And of course, staying very hydrated appropriately, which we've done episodes on we'll talk about in this episode.

Adina:

Yeah.'cause think about it. If you are burning through those resources, that's salt. You are sweating out your salt. You are using your sodium and potassium

Diane:

Mm-hmm. And, and these might be, and these might be the people. If you are sweating a lot and you're like, oh, I really, I really get my sweat on in the sauna. These might be the people that I'm like, Hey, let's, let's stop that for now, because you're dumping your minerals in that sauna. And outside of that, if you're a real stress cadet.

Adina:

And maybe you're craving salty food, like go listen to our cravings episode. What season was that too?

Diane:

Season two.

Adina:

Yeah, that episode's great. But yeah, if you are just like insatiably craving salt and or you're insatiably craving something like potato chips and you don't realize it's because of the salt craving, it's not because you don't have enough willpower.

Diane:

Exactly. That is one of the questions in the adrenal and stress section of my intake forms with. Both new client, one-on-one clients and root cause reset students is, do you have an insatiable craving for salt? Do you sweat really easily? There are a lot of questions around that that can clue me into, you know, even without H T M A, what is going on with your health

Adina:

Yeah. Okay. So we talked about not sweating enough. We talked about sweating too much. What if it's not really about sweating, but you're like, it's summer of summertime, I just can't be in the heat. Like I cannot tolerate the heat. I immediately, my rosacea flares or I feel Yeah. Like so lightheaded or I get really itchy, um,

Diane:

Or some people feel like, This is another one that is also, I think on the intake form that we use with clients is like you have, you feel like you have to put sunglasses on immediately when you go outside and it's sunny. Um, I mean, if the sun's directly in your eye or looking towards the sun, like yeah, it's gonna hurt your eyes, but you should be able to tolerate some sunlight near and around your eyeballs without it giving you a headache, making you feel exhausted, and otherwise just physically unwell. So yeah, heat intolerance, is that a thing? So if we looked at your intake forms, I'd also wonder if, you know, if you say I can't tolerate heat, if you also have some other hormone imbalances, maybe your period is missing, irregular or otherwise rude, or you feel a lot of symptoms in the middle to latter half of your cycle, so, What's going on? Heat high heat is going to drive histamine response, so you might notice stuff. You get stuffier the latter half of your cycle. You're more prone to hormonal headaches before your dot drops. This was something that I used to get a lot so stuffier feeling like I, um, gut headaches outside in the heat easier, dehydrated easier. I also think too, I was burning through my minerals, so a lot of things were going on.

Adina:

I've been there.

Diane:

Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Adina:

This was me in a big, big way. Um, when my skin was itchy, this heat made it so much itchier, heat drives histamine and I had all kinds of histamine issues. And the thing about histamine is that histamine's not bad. It's not like some dirty word, but it can build up. And if we don't have the resources to break it down, that's where we get in trouble. So when I was postpartum partum with Abe, that was when I was like really experiencing some of my skin, skin stuff, late pregnancy with him in early postpartum. And I remember so clearly the first like hot humid day in New Jersey, I went outside and like immediately broke out in a rash all over my torso. I feel like I have a picture of it, I could probably find it somewhere. Um, and I was like, what is happening? This is terrible. And like, I used to react to the heat so big time. I was just reflecting to Donnie the other day that like, it's crazy'cause people always talk about how terrible the summers are in Tel Aviv, like how hot it is. And I feel so not uncomfortable in the heat now. Like I can totally tolerate it. I sweat, but I don't like find it oppressive. I don't get weird rashes. So,

Diane:

Or exhausted and hydration and your detox pathways have a big part in that.

Adina:

Yeah. So I've done just so much work on my gut health, hormone health, metabolic health, my hydration, like actively replenishing minerals and aggressively doing so postpartum in the summer here. Like I am very, very focused on it, very focused on it. It's something that has made a really gigantic shift in the way I tolerate heat, the way I

Diane:

Your last postpartum seemed, experience seemed a lot different and you were in a lot hotter of an environment over there in Israel. Yeah, I mean stress, stress and histamine and skin stuff go hand in hand. And you did a lot to unburden the, the physical stress of it. And that also makes the emotional bit bit easier of a, a load, I imagine. Um, uh, we're here, I feel like I tolerate heat pretty well. I mean, there were, there was definitely a time where the end of my cycle, like approaching my period, I would get, I think I've shared this on Instagram in past episodes, I would get horrible, horrible hormonal migraines and would feel very sensitive to light, to heat. And I knew there was definitely a time where sauna was not for me because I would do the sauna, feel okay, like hydrate what I thought was appropriately, and then the next day have a banger of a headache. And I remember thinking like, I, I know I hydrated, but where was I in my cycle? And that would just really kick up a lot of histamine and hormone imbalance symptoms. I also think there's, in some sense a like genetic disposition to like how well you can tolerate heat. Like when we went to Bali, I think I might've shared this before when went to Bali, I'm like, I just turned brown. You know, I'm half Filipina. I was built for this environment. And then there was Irish, German background, Neil, who has translucent skin, and he's like sweating from his head just profusely. And he's like, I am not built for this. I want clouds. And

Adina:

Gimme that gray. Um, yeah, totally. I think there's a lot, there's a lot to it, but like you said, with where you are in your cycle, like it's really important to remember that estrogen drives histamine, histamine dries, estrogen. It's just like a cycling cycle there. So when estrogen climbs before ovulation, that another little estrogen surge in your luteal phase. Or if your hormones are completely whack and you're just estrogen dominant all over the place, you might start to pay attention to when your heat tolerance is lowest, and it might correlate with that estrogen drive.

Diane:

Totally. I had to, I had to work a lot on my natural cycle, and then I worked on supporting other detox pathways. So for me, a big part of that was supporting my gut health, which we're gonna talk about here in a few my liver. And then also unburdening mental emotional stress, because I know that when that is running really high, it's just not the time for me to. Add extra physical stress. Uh, we've talked about, we wanna find the Goldilocks stressor, but I mean, I know myself right now and I imagine I was dumping minerals the last month processing grief and a couple of really big losses that I'm not gonna be hitting the sauna hard. We're gonna be doing some other detox, gentle detox support.

Adina:

Yeah. And it's in important to mention here too, like we just did an entire episode about things we've changed our mind about. I think the old us, like in a past practitioner life, we may have been thinking like, oh, You don't tolerate heat well, and it's a histamine issue. So you obviously just need a low histamine diet. Like you just need to cut out avocados and bananas and tomatoes and not eat any leftovers

Diane:

no citrus.

Adina:

red wine and citrus and like the list goes on and on. You know, histamine's not a dirty word, like there's histamines all over the place, but remember that this is symptom suppressive. This is not a healing solution. And if you are in a season where you're super symptomatic and maybe you're very, very itchy and it's the summer and there's not really much you can do on the foundational side of things to make your symptoms go away, now it's fine to incorporate a symptom suppressive diet if you really need to suppress your symptoms right now. So in that case, like Diane and I will advise clients to cut out some very high histamine foods and we'll give them. Some tools around lifestyle things you can adjust to lower the histamine load in certain foods, the way that you prepare them, the way that you store them, things like that. Um, but ultimately the goal is building up the resilience, giving your body the tools it needs to break down the histamines. Don't make it mean something about those foods,

Diane:

Like those are off limit

Adina:

those are bad foods.'cause I have histamine issues so I can never eat chocolate nuts, X, y, z, avocados, bananas, tomatoes ever again.

Diane:

no life, that's no life to live. Yeah. I have a nuanced take here and I, I'm pretty sure we, we touched on this in some part in one of our last episodes or our sneezy season solutions allergies episode. So when I was really reactive, I mean, there was a time in my life where I was taking Claritin D the D that had to have that one with the Sudafed. Yeah. My daily D had to have those carefully toast amphetamines, you know, where you go to Walgreens, you gotta give them your license, tell them you're not making meth, you're just trying to clear your sinuses. Right. So there was a time where I was taking that constantly and then if I fell into the trap of like, let's just avoid histamines, then I would be doing away with so many foods. I love, however, I think it is. Helpful for some people who are really reactive to be mindful about some of those things. So maybe we're just adjusting some of our food while keyword, while we are working on improving your cycle, improving your digestion, improving the function of your gut so that you can bring these back. You can clear the, his histamines better and tolerate a wider variety of food. Variety of food and temperatures too. So that's where the best results come. It's never gonna be a this or that for me, but always will look at clients' case by case. I have seen where some people, they want to completely throw out all of that, right? And they're like, well, I heard that orange juice and milk is great, so I'm gonna pound these. I'm like, but you have diarrhea and you're really stuffy. So maybe we need to bring a more nuanced, complex approach to this instead of just it's, I'm avoiding all those foods, or I'm pounding all those foods, you

Adina:

Yep.

Diane:

So let's bring this, really bring this home. So what are the resources that you need to break down histamine? What is keeping your body from doing it? And how do we approach detox, uh, gentle detox approach through the lens of nutritional therapy. So, If you have histamine issues, we know that you need some gut support. You have to have healthy functioning gut in order to process and to break down histamine. Make sure that it's not running amok. So if we were to do a GI map, a gut stool test, and you told me that you had histamine issues, I would expect to see something like low secretory iga. Think of that marker as your gut army. And when this is low, it's gonna tell me that digestion, the function of it is low, that it is being more react, your digestion, your immune system's being more reactive, and that you're probably dealing with some of those histamine issues that we. Uh, describe. So some other things that we might see if we were to work one-on-one is are you really lacking in some main minerals? Do you have no copper right now? And thus no enzymes to help you break down and to process that histamine. Now what I don't want you to hear is, okay, maybe I'm lacking copper, so that must mean I need to supplement with it, right?

Adina:

Or maybe I am lacking the resources to make the D a O enzyme, so I need to supplement with the D A O enzyme.

Diane:

Yeah, yeah.

Adina:

lot of people out there recommending that.

Diane:

There are, so hold your horses. We never like to think about. Unopposed or single supplement solution instead. And more broadly, what we could do is focus on a well-rounded diet that's going to offer things like vitamin A, vitamin C, if we're thinking about summer and you know, sweating and building resilience to heat and general. Let's look at some tropical fruits. Let's look at those vibrant colored produce and things that are hydrating, but also offer a lot of antioxidants like that, A and C. And we also will invite our clients to audit what they are currently eating. Did you grow up with a lot of processed foods that are high in iron and other things that throw off your mineral and your vitamin balance? Those are some things that we look at when we're working with clients.

Adina:

Yes, absolutely. So I think that brings us to minerals. Um, I think whenever we're talking about sweat, Detox histamine intolerance. Really, whenever we're talking about anything, we're gonna talk about minerals at some point. But when it comes to the summer, when it comes to sweating on purpose, when it comes to giving your body the resources that it needs to tolerate heat, whether you don't sweat at all or whether you sweat profusely, no matter what you do, hydrating deeply mineral hydration, giving your body the resources that it needs to tolerate the stress that you are under is going to be so crucial. So same, you know, this is also, these are the same resources that your body needs to process histamine. So it's all gonna be serving that ultimate end goal of supporting your stress response, helping you better tolerate heat, supporting the detox pathways. It's gonna do lots of really good steps. So we've done an episode about this before. Go back and listen to our Hydration Nation episode.

Diane:

From season one, a throwback, but it's a goodie.

Adina:

Yeah. And um, maybe we chat about hydration is having a moment, which is really nice. Like mineral hydration's, having a moment on the internet. Everyone's all like, I got my, my, my

Diane:

My, my

Adina:

um, I got my packets. Is that what they're saying? They're like, look at my pockets

Diane:

I get a lot of questions about specific brands or, I mean, growing up I thought, oh, well get Gatorade. And if you've seen Idiocracy, you're like, oh, electrolytes, they've got what plants crave. Like that's what you need is Gatorade, the sports drinks. For me it was Blue Gatorade. Or wasn't

Adina:

Blue. Yeah.

Diane:

Water?

Adina:

Yeah. Smart Water?

Diane:

Vitamin

Adina:

Smart. Oh, vitamin Water. Yeah. Yeah. Drank a lot of that. Oh, that was gross. Um, blue Gatorade or there used to be like a white Gatorade that was really good. And then it kind of changed flavors and then it was not good. I

Diane:

Glacial something. They always had such intense

Adina:

I remember I used to go ice skating. I was really into ice skating when I was a kid. I don't feel like we never talked about that, but I used to take ice skating lessons and after ice skating lessons, I would always have a bag of onion rings and a blue Gatorade. Disgusting.

Diane:

That's a combo. Very cloyingly, sweet and salty.

Adina:

Um,

Diane:

Not the sodium we want.

Adina:

No, but that's probably, my body was craving it, so I was giving it a shot. But yeah, liquid iv, L M N T I've even seen needed that, like prenatal with a big influencer budget.

Diane:

Oh, we're about to get ads. They, they have a big marketing

Adina:

listening.

Diane:

all their subies.

Adina:

Yeah. Um, I know I said that maybe we should like review some of them and talk a little bit about the mineral forms and balance, but URI is already up for his first time of the night, so I don't know that we'll have time to break that down right now. But the T L D R is. None of those are hidden it for me as far as forms of minerals, as far as like weird other ingredients. I think in a pinch, maybe some of them could be okay, but I'd rather just carry around some salt with me and like buy a coconut water. You know,

Diane:

the most accessible right, is. Chances are you have some sea salt, not the table salt because it could never do the same thing, but real sea salt that used for cooking. Little pinch will do ya. We love redmond's and we like coconut water. So great combo there that you can find pretty much anywhere. Yeah, maybe some in the future we do a little audit of some of these popular brands. Um, actually a listener sent a dmm. I know I screenshotted it somewhere and she's listening and like yelling at her, her phone, but she reached out to, I think it was Element and asked why their ratios were what they were. She might've been a, a fellow practitioner too. I can see a place where some of these, let's say if you are, you are vomit, you were chumming, like Adina was over the side of the boat in the hot Hawaiian sun. You had stomach fruit poisoning. You were sweating a lot. So that's where some of my clients will pregame. And post-game Sauna with, with, um, some of these packets. But I think that thinking that you need to have a package of these on hand every day, it's a little bit of a misplaced, like priority. So it's just not something that I think most people need. Um, Neil who works outside Sweat and Buckets, he has to be more mindful in a different way. But like we're saying, there are probably things in your kitchen that you can put together for a sort of upgrade array, as we like to call it.

Adina:

so this was actually came from a listener, because we called it upgrader, upgraded Gatorade, and one of our shitheads was like, you missed the opportunity to call it upgrader aid. Someone unlike

Diane:

I hope she's proud of

Adina:

I know. So anyways, we. Yeah, we've given, we've given many recommendations for upgrade aid recipes in the past. I can tell you what I'm sipping on. Lately, it was just a Jewish fast day. So I was fasting for 25 hours and I drank about six of this beverage before the fast and I felt amazing. And it was coconut water, pomegranate juice,'cause our pomegranate just came in season and they are so good little orange juice and a whole lot of sea salt. And again, it's going to depend on what you specifically need, which is another reason why I don't love these packets because some people are gonna need more potassium. Some people are gonna need way more sodium. Some people can't tolerate that much sodium right away. So I'd like them to go slowly. Like how

Diane:

have diarrhea or they get bloated.

Adina:

Yeah. How many clients have tried l m mentee and then just like, shit their pans, you know?

Diane:

And I do not want that diarrhea on my conscience, so I'm not gonna be recommending it to y'all on masse. Um, so your current fave sounds really good. I have

Adina:

So good. It's tar. Sweet. So good.

Diane:

I've been really into acidic chart things that make the roof of my mouth hurt like

Adina:

You would love this.

Diane:

Yeah. So I've been doing half an op and I split it with Neil half and a lemon lime op. Squeeze of fresh lime juice. I love it. Limey. And then I do coconut water, but it has to be like harmless harvest. Um, because some of them taste,

Adina:

know what they taste like. Diane,

Diane:

I think they don't taste right. And it definitely has to be cold. Lots of ice lot on, um, vacation. Well, not vacation. When I went home this past weekend, it was a trip I had, um, it was a cocktail that was called an ora. What was it? Some crush. This restaurant was known for their drink. They had crushed ice and they had orange juice, nectar. I don't know what nectar was. Was it honey something orange juice, nectar, lime juice, some coconut and a little pineapple. And I read that as listed and I was like, that sounds sweet. I think it had vodka, no rum. And I said, let's add a lot more lime juice because I'd rather it be more limey coconutty.

Adina:

Mm-hmm.

Diane:

And my friend ordered the same one, like as, as it was written. And she's like, oh, yours tastes way better with more coconut and lime in it. And it was. Delicious. You could definitely hold alcohol and it would be really lovely and refreshing.

Adina:

My tongue just got very, need that now. Um, okay. Quick, we gotta round it out. I gotta go feed a baby so quick. We talked through a lot today. Some quick summertime shifts for better sweat and health in this sweaty summer. S. People still saying that? Are people still writing S Z N?

Diane:

yeah, well, I mean, L M T took vowels out, so why wouldn't we? So first thing, mineral hydration, we just gave you a couple options you can upgrade or aid. I give my one-on-one clients customized options and recipes, especially if they're doing H T M A. We cater it to what their main minerals are doing or not doing. You can do slow and steady. Exposure to sun and heat, especially if you're someone dealing with a lot of histamine issues. So don't be going in there cycling through the sauna and the cold plunge, but like low and slow heat going outside for a walk early in the morning or in the evening. Especially if it's hot as hail where you live. Mm-hmm.

Adina:

totally. And then don't look to these like trendy recovery tools. Just expose yourself to the elements and sweat. Don't spend the entire summer. Hold up in your ac, get to the beach swing a kettlebell outside. Go for a hot girl, hot walk. You know, like slow and steady exposure to natural elements.

Diane:

I almost blew my water out my nose'cause she said just go outside and expose yourself. Just go outside and expose yourself, but

Adina:

Just take your top off in the sun.

Diane:

before you get arrested, get your, your tatas and your limp flowing outside.

Adina:

We love it. All right, well that's it for us this week. Oh, damn. Uh, gotta go and stay hydrated. Stay sassy. Unclench that butthole, and we'll see you next week.

Diane:

Bye.

Adina:

Bye.