Get Your Shit Together

How to Get a Perfect Score on Your HTMA

• Adina Rubin & Diane Teall • Season 4 • Episode 103

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In this episode of Get Your Shit Together we chat about:
🧡 Audio hugs for anyone discouraged by tests or (lack of) progress
🧡 Common trends we see with our goal getter, recovering perfectionist clients
🧡 Takeaways from our fave Hair Tissue Mineral Analysis (HTMA) test
🧡 Reframes, encouragement, and “tapping” for bad days
🧡 Practical ways to cut the crap and feel better faster

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Diane:

Hey, shitheads, and welcome back. For people who may be new here because maybe their pals shared us recently, they're gonna be like, oh, I was bald. I actually just found a TikTok where someone like, I think the caption said, when I become comfortable, someone's like, can I call you bitches? Can I call you bitches? Okay, you fucking bitch. Too far?

Adina:

Jump right in.

Diane:

Jump right in. And now they know that we have swears, but you know, we're very mature with very immature humor sometimes.

Adina:

Yeah.

Diane:

Yeah. So you wrote something actually about

Adina:

I was gonna say, speaking of TikTok. Okay, so as you know, if you've been here a while, Diane is a TikTok girlie. She's a youth. She's a teen pregnant lady.

Diane:

Yes. Teen pregnant teen mom.

Adina:

mom. And I'm just like an old hag who like can't get in with the youths, can't get it together with the TikiTok. Um, no, I mean, I like looked at TikTok for three seconds a while ago and I was just like, this is overstimulating and I hate it here. And then recently I was like, okay, I know TikTok is more fun. I know creators are better over there. But I just like, couldn't get over that. Yeah. I couldn't get over that. Like the stress of it. Then recently I was like, I'm going to give it a shot. And what I did was I opened the app and I just started searching some things cause it is a really good search engine.

Diane:

It is an excellent

Adina:

Yes. I started searching some things that I really enjoy. And for like two days, my for you page was amazing. And I was like, I get it. Like I am being served. Wonderful native content. I am being served like Photography videography.

Diane:

is so

Adina:

Yeah. I've been I'm being served photography and videography stuff. I like I'm being served like sourdough recipe stuff Just like watching people aesthetically make coffee and like some funny stuff Funny like just good content for me for you

Diane:

Yeah. For you. Or as, um, my friend Topsy thought the for you page was like for your pleasure, the for your pleasure page. And I'm like, I mean, same thing,

Adina:

oh because fyp like people hashtag it yeah, that's funny

Diane:

I've built mine brick by brick. Mine is Okay, I'll

Adina:

Well, let me finish. Yeah, let me finish. Okay, so it was like, two days. Great. I was like, I get it. This is going great. And then, so quickly, TikTok tried to diagnose me with things, tell me scary stories about like, people's children drowning, and like, I get that these platforms are just trying to draw on emotion. It doesn't matter what the emotion is. They want to keep you on the app for as long as possible. And people really get addicted to that stuff. And we see it with clients all the time. I think the reason I wanted to bring this up is because it does have a lot to do with the episode we're talking about today.

Diane:

Which is not a TikTok

Adina:

No, it's not a TikTok episode. Yeah, but, um, It was just crazy how instantly that happened. And I immediately, like the second I see one of those things come up, like I'm trying to fix it. So I'm just like, scroll, scroll, like get out of here. Thumbs

Diane:

it you're not interested. You hold down not interested.

Adina:

But it's just anyways, the point is I feel for the youths and I feel for the clients out there and the people out there who are just like, Falling for it and getting preyed on like this. And with all the predatory marketing, like, you know, I also started getting served,

Diane:

Everyone's autistic and ADHD after they have spent some time on

Adina:

yes. And

Diane:

Someone's gonna get mad

Adina:

I know we did, didn't we do an episode about that last season? We did. Right.

Diane:

About attention. I think we did, yeah.

Adina:

And, um, anxiety. Yeah. Like, and I'm, I'm being served like predatory fitness content too. Like snatch your waist with these. I'm just like. I cannot imagine being a consumer on these platforms right now. Like, it's crazy. Anyways.

Diane:

that's all where you really have to have boundaries with yourself and with tech because I resisted downloading it at all until I did a TikTok challenge for work in 2022. I was posting several times a day and I was resistant to it because most of what you're seeing is not people that you follow. So with that, You have people who don't follow you, and you have people who could be really mean, and as a creator there or a business owner, it wasn't fun, but now I set limits for how long I scroll, like when I scroll, because it is easy to keep going, but what I love about it on the positive side is Book. Book recommendations. My For You Pages book recommendations. I was just watching a tutorial on feeding my starter because Adina got me started

Adina:

We, we should have opened with that.

Diane:

Yeah, we should have

Adina:

should have brought her. You should have brought her to the show today.

Diane:

I know! Yeah, my little Tamagotchi. I also, on TikTok, have been looking at like, fine jewelry and I found these little Tamagotchi like, Fine jewelry charms, which are super fun, and I want to get one for Bebe's birthstone when they're here. Um, and just funny content, and I have definitely curated my For You page to positive birth stories because like you were saying, it's like, oh, I can tell that you're probably expecting, and so do you want to hear about the worst thing that happened to someone during their birth? And I'm like, no, so definitely have protected mental peace around it, but I mean, for like 60 to 90 second reviews of a book or something, and the ability to fast forward on the videos, like. So, that was our TikTok, um,

Adina:

episode is sponsored by TikTok. Um.

Diane:

sponsored by

Adina:

Yeah, no. And I think like you were saying about setting those limits and creating boundaries, you have to be really careful though, because like the way the algorithm works is if someone starts telling you one of those, like worst case scenario, birth stories, if you hover for like a second longer, Tick Tock's going to be like, Oh, she's interested. She likes this. She's watching

Diane:

totally. Yeah, but I mean really and this also makes me think of what we're going to talk about today is like minding your stress and your peace and like what you're consuming is being really intentional about it. It's really important. So I, I've gone in, in spurts where like I'm really simplifying in other ways right now, like where I'm creating content, it's, it's Instagram, it's email. I'm not using TikTok for work right now, but I'll use it as like a search engine or some unwind and let's be real like the trends that are over there take like three weeks to go to Instagram reels and by the time I, a friend sends me a reel, I'm like, I saw that like a month

Adina:

Yeah.

Diane:

but, um, still good stuff, but yeah, starter's going well, thanks to you and I actually got to feed her after we're done recording today.

Adina:

Yeah, it's humid over there. Um, wait, let me just tell them the quick story about this. So basically I was at my parents house a couple of weeks ago and my mom's starter, which is also my starter, like we have the same starter. It's very healthy and lovely. And I love when I'm at my parents house because like, She loves when I'm at my parents house. I give her a real workout. Like, my mom bakes, but not as often as I do when I'm there. Especially the STHH girlies know I made, like, sourdough croissants for our meetup, and I always bake some bread, and all that stuff. But the last day that I was in the States, I dried out some starter and put it in the mail for Diane. And I wrote, yeah, I wrote this dumb note on the envelope that said keep me alive because yeah, it's basically like living animal in here, please confiscate me.

Diane:

A living specimen.

Adina:

so then when it didn't show up at Diane's house, I got really nervous that they confiscated it.

Diane:

I know, because it was weeks ago, and I know that snail mail is snail mail for a reason, but we just came back from a lovely long weekend for the July 4th holiday up north in northern Michigan, and such a nice surprise to check my mail when we came back, and it was in there! So that was Love that for me. Cute little surprise. And I don't know about you, but coming back from a holiday weekend, especially when it's on an odd day like a Thursday, um, I think most people took Friday off, or like, let's be honest, if you're in an office job and you had to work that Friday, where ya, where ya, you know? Um, it was so much fun that we took Doug, our pug, and this was like his first real vacay, because when we had Huey, our other dog, R. I. P. Like, bringing both of them together, they were absolute menaces. So they usually go to grandma's house, my in laws. But Doug came with us to this dog friendly Airbnb. We took him on a hike. You would have loved it. Through the woods, it was near a beach. We went to a dog friendly beach. If you're in Michigan and make your way up to Lelandale County area, it was Bohemian Beach. And several listeners were like, I grew up there, or I love that beach. And it was so beautiful. Quiet and Lake Michigan is just so serene. The area where we were, it's quite still, but we do get some small waves and people really like finding Petoskey stones. So I saw people looking around for that and it just wasn't a very crowded beach. I mean, I don't have to worry about sharks, which that has been on my for you page because I watch shark videos where this woman boops the sharks. Um, they don't have to worry about sharks there.

Adina:

I can get down with those, like, shark photographer accounts. Like, you could get lost on those, you know?

Diane:

Yeah, but then it's like shark attack. I'm like, no, thank you. I like the safety of Lake Michigan. It's beautiful as much as I love seafood and ocean stuff, but I just love Leelanau County. It's so quiet and we cooked most of our food. Like I packed all the stuffs, like all the food. I brought our knives. And I brought good salt and olive oil because I don't trust full kitchen Airbnbs, quote

Adina:

funny when you told me that. Like, in my mind, that's standard because I keep kosher. Like, when I travel, I always bring my pan, my knife, my stuff. And so when you were like, I'm doing this, I'm like, so traveling. Like, is that,

Diane:

So, yeah, traveling as a Jew. Yeah, and I'm, as Adina sometimes calls me, her honorary J. I mean, I brought, yeah, I brought a pan to cook our eggs in and, uh, Yeah, surely enough, we get up there and I picked up a pot lid and it just fell apart. Like, someone went to a garage sale and just the dullest knives. So maybe we need to do a full episode on how to travel or how to, how to Airbnb in a alleged full kitchen. But it was very nice, so

Adina:

We love that for you. I literally forgot it was a holiday because it's not a holiday here. And yeah, it

Diane:

And what are we celebrating? It's like a shitshow election year. Like, hot dogs. That's what I'm celebrating.

Adina:

celebrating those hot dogs. Um, yeah, it's really something, something over there in the U. S. of A, huh?

Diane:

Yeah. Well, what are you eating? It's not hot dogs. What are you

Adina:

yeah, I shared this on Instagram, but I don't think I talked about in the podcast yet. I had like such a nostalgia craving for cinnamon raisin bread. I used to eat that I think for breakfast all the time as a kid. And now I'm like trying to figure out what did I eat it with? Like, did I just eat bread? I think I

Diane:

Was just

Adina:

I think it was just bread. I don't even think it had butter because we were such a, I can't believe it's not butter house. You know, my mom was like a dietician in the seventies. Um. Yeah, I think I just ate, like, toast, dry toasted cinnamon raisin bread.

Diane:

And you're like, well, it's got raisin, and that's nature's candy, if you listened to our last episode.

Adina:

anyways, I got this nostalgia craving for it, so I made a gorgeous sourdough loaf with cinnamon raisin. And it was, it hit every note I was hoping it would hit. It was just so nostalgic and yummy. Mm hmm.

Diane:

kind of in a similar vibe over here with, I needed s'mores this past week, and we definitely made them around the fire at our Airbnb. Like, Neil also brought a lot of things. We took one of his trucks up there, and he brought up a bunch of firewood, so we made s'mores by the fire. But, oh my gosh, that is dog snoring. It's just, that's just what it is.

Adina:

I don't think I could hear it on my end, but maybe, yeah.

Diane:

They might hear it in the episode, but yeah, Doug, our pug, is here, of course. So, s'mores, I've been doing that in the toaster oven as well, so if you don't have a fire, you can totally make it in the toaster oven, so, uh, what I do is Pamela's graham crackers, they're gluten free, but Even if you're not, I just think these are superior to Honeymade because they don't just, like, disintegrate. I do think that Pamela changed her recipe a little bit because they crumbled a little more out the box, which I'm not pleased

Adina:

Hmm. Do you think it was just the humidity?

Diane:

maybe, maybe, because it is wet outside. Like, the air is wet, the curls are poppin but I get Trader Joe's, uh, chocolate squares, and then if I can get Justin's peanut butter cups, like the wide, flat Reese's alternative, Great. And then I just put it on top of one half of the square in the toaster oven. And or if you have a gas stove, you can also do it over the stove. Just really watch it on the stick. So, mm,

Adina:

was the marshmallow? Sorry you didn't tell us.

Diane:

Oh, it was, this time it was Trader Joe's because Smashmallows went out of business.

Adina:

sad.

Diane:

Yeah. Do you remember them? I might try it with my homemade marshmallows, but I think they're going to turn goo really

Adina:

So it's funny you were saying that. I was just thinking that one of the things I haven't bought since we moved was like a hand mixer. And I really need that because I've been wanting a marshmallow. Um, I can't, by the way, I've tried it. I can do that for like whipped cream, but for like gelatin based things, I just, it doesn't get there. You really need that like quick whip. Um, but. Yeah, because I found like a Rice Krispie that's like the only ingredient is rice, and I really want to make Rice Krispie treats for my next nostalgia bake.

Diane:

Oh, I was

Adina:

No bake

Diane:

as a kid

Adina:

Yeah, so

Diane:

Yeah, that and Oreos. That'd be fun. On the media front, I did watch something. It wasn't that great, but I had to

Adina:

She watched something, folks!

Diane:

A Family Affair with Zac Efron and

Adina:

glad you brought this up. Did you see mine, what I was consuming? Because it's direct response to this.

Diane:

No, I saw The Bear. Well, I'll let you tell them, but did you watch it too?

Adina:

yes, I did watch it, and shh, okay,

Diane:

stuck.

Adina:

it was horrible,

Diane:

It started like funny and I thought this is gonna be funny and I thought they were gonna make a joke about how much plastic surgery and filler each of them have

Adina:

yes, interesting you say that, because did you take to the reddits? Like did you see what people were saying? Yeah,

Diane:

unhinged. And this is not to say we're trying to pick apart like, people's appearance, but like, Both of them, objectively, beautiful people. Zach, what are we doing? And there was this one scene and people are showing a gif from Team America, the scene where these, like, claymation puppet people are looking into each other's eyes. And then they put that next to a clip from, of Zach and Nicole. And,

Adina:

mm hmm, mm hmm, hilarious.

Diane:

too far. Someone's got to

Adina:

It's gone too far. Um, no, so if you try to Google anything about Zac Efron, it brings up that he had like a surgery because of an accident of some sort. So it may not, I don't know if that's like his publicist trying to back out of this, or like, that is what

Diane:

it's like they tried to address it right when they are about they haven't kissed yet, he and Nicole, and they're looking at his chin and how he had some sort of surgery. I wondered if it was as a result of, oh my god, that movie that made me sob my eyes out.

Adina:

Iron Claw.

Diane:

was this movie? Iron

Adina:

Yeah, I didn't watch it yet. Also, LOL, we were like, we're going to zip through the beginning part because we got a lot to cover. Oh, this is now a media podcast. But I have a lot to say. Joe. OK, I will say movie was terrible. Joey King was hilarious. I thought she was excellent. And I was not prepared to like her as much as I did. Like. She was so funny. The scene where she first sees them in the bedroom and she slams her head into the doorpost. Like

Diane:

Oh, I laughed so

Adina:

she, how did she do that? That was amazing.

Diane:

so hard. And then I'd say halfway through the movie when Neil fell asleep, I was like, yeah, this is the place to fall

Adina:

So it's funny. Cause we actually watched it over three nights, which was a huge bummer because I think the first third was the funniest and it got

Diane:

hmm. The first

Adina:

worse. So the like third night of the watch, we were just like, why are we doing this? And then what happened was we went on a journey because. So we watched that and then I got served a lot of Zac Efron content. Cause obviously they were doing so much publicity for this movie. And I watched a clip of him watching high school musical and reacting to it. And I was just overjoyed by how much gratitude he has for his filmography. Like, you know, there's people who like, they get to the big leagues and then they kind of scoff at the stuff they did in the

Diane:

Like Robert Pattinson talking about Twilight. Those clips are hilarious. He hated

Adina:

Yes. Like, I'll never forget this. Donnie and I saw David Cross who plays Tobias in Arrested Development at a 92nd Street Why Talk. And he was like mad that people were asking him questions about Arrested Development. And I was like, what? Just cause it wasn't your project. Like you're Tobias. Everyone's going to know you for Tobias. That show is amazing. Like you want us to ask about your dumb other shows? Nobody cares. Like, you're

Diane:

Don't forget about your

Adina:

Yeah, so anyways, I just loved that he had so much gratitude for the whole team on High School Musical. And then I mentioned to Donny that I've actually never seen High School Musical because in high school I was too like, this is lame. Like I'm so much cooler. I can't watch popular media. Like I'm so much cooler than this. So yeah.

Diane:

My freshman college roommate, Jenny, like, she actually just DM'd me not that long ago because I was talking about Iron Claw and she's like, I told you Zach's got it because she loved him and my hear me out was Conan O'Brien and her favorite

Adina:

So, I did love him. Like, I think Seventeen, again, is one of the most underrated movies ever. I think he's hilarious in

Diane:

So hot.

Adina:

Hilarious. Like, it's so good. But I just, like, the timing of High School Musical and the cringe of it all, like, I couldn't do it at the time when everyone was watching it. But we just sat down and watched it. And, guys, it's so good.

Diane:

Well, maybe, maybe everyone will add that to their

Adina:

gotta queue it up.

Diane:

in his peak. Yeah. Yeah, High School Musical, Vanessa Hudgens in there. She's also pregnant right now, I

Adina:

Oh my god, it's so funny. Loved every moment. Just laugh out loud.

Diane:

Well, speaking of laugh out loud, I want a quick reading rainbow, a listener review before we get into the meat of this episode. And this one is from those Apple usernames. I don't know where they come from. Are sir, sir, what Sarah, something with numbers in it. Anyway, they'll know who they

Adina:

Maybe just like read out the letters next time.

Diane:

R S I R O Y S 1 3. A must listen. So thankful that Adina and Diane share their knowledge, humor, and spice with their listeners. Whether it's a recipe, recommendation to improve your gut health or strength, or an advocacy tip, every episode, every episode leaves you with something to chew

Adina:

We love the pun. You're welcome here.

Diane:

Yeah, we love food puns. So fun. Well, the meat of this episode, this one will be a little bit different. We haven't done a chatty, like, girl talk. hug and tough love episode in a bit. And this came about because of some recurring or common conversations that I'm having with one on one clients. I know Adina probably has her share of some of this in the club or with her clients as well. And so we figured if that's happening, chances are there are other girlies who need to hear this information too.

Adina:

you know what's funny is I feel like it doesn't happen as much in the club. Yeah. Because of the nature of the way we structure things, where like you have to go through STHH first, like, the club is a different caliber of client, you know, it's like these girlies are here for the long haul, they know how to train, they know how to ask good questions, but definitely that happens more like in the DMs and like the early stages of STHH. I feel like I'm getting more of this recurring theme. Um.

Diane:

Yeah, and so with that in mind, this episode is for you if you have ever described yourself as a I just saw that, do you think it's gonna be do you think it's gonna

Adina:

the recording?

Diane:

Did you press that? Did I? Or was it like my nod? So y'all, we're also

Adina:

again?

Diane:

We're using new technology, uh, makes Adina's editing life easier, so if you haven't left a Applauding the YouTubes,

Adina:

Come on, come on down. Come on down

Diane:

but this floating thumbs up just went over our video Okay, well this episode Is for you if you've ever described yourself as a perfectionist, um me i'm raising my hand Maybe you're a self start self starter and eldest daughter. I'm, definitely putting that in there

Adina:

writing a rap right now.

Diane:

They'll

Adina:

I'm sorry. I have to interrupt you again. This is the other thing I'm consuming. This episode is unhinged. Um, no. Did you by any chance get served on the internets? Any Cisco content recently?

Diane:

No, I've been heavy into Chapel Rowan. Rowan?

Adina:

this is the funniest thing I've ever seen.

Diane:

Thong

Adina:

Yes. So I came across this video. It was like a clip on Instagram and then I made Donnie sit down and watch the 18 minute YouTube video with me because every moment of it was perfect. And then I think we spent probably an hour and a half last night talking about the thong song. So, okay, let me explain.

Diane:

Bonus episode of the

Adina:

Yes. Okay. I just need to break this down for you. I came across, there's nothing funnier to me than when people are talking so seriously about something so silly, you know? And so this is an 18 minute YouTube video, which I'm going to have to link in the show notes, of the birth of the, the thong song and how this came to be. It's like a full, like musical history of this piece

Diane:

And what was I doing that reminded you of that? Was it like my

Adina:

you were just dropping bars. You were dropping bars about being an eldest daughter and a self starter. Okay. It was like this full music history of how this beat showed up on Sisqo's door, and then he wrote the lyrics and how this thing got made, and then how they fe I don't know if you remember the Thong song very clearly.

Diane:

Oh, I do. The thong, the thong, thong, thong. These females, they're wearing thongs. Is that like, is it just so serious, this material?

Adina:

So serious. And like, I don't know if you remember how hard the violin goes in that song. The guy, the violinist is on this video and he introduced himself and he's like, I've scored over 1800 motion pictures and the thong song. It's like this serious violin dude. And like, Oh my god, I don't want to ruin it

Diane:

right, everyone's

Adina:

You gotta go watch it. It is truly a work of art. It's one of the best things i've ever seen It'll give you a real appreciation for this piece of music history So good

Diane:

And I wish we could like legally put the thong song somewhere in this episode. Maybe, maybe we could figure that out.

Adina:

Oh my god, man, it is so good. Okay, you can continue telling us about the self starters and the

Diane:

Yeah, well this episode's for you if you're a self starter. Maybe you wear a thong. Trying to tie it together. Self starter. Maybe you're hard on yourself. You're a mean girl to yourself. I know some of y'all

Adina:

Oh man,

Diane:

doing that. Or maybe you just really are like, I love to have a full plate. You always got something going on. And, or maybe you spent some time as a people pleaser. There's a lot of stuff here. So I think, I think a lot of listeners might feel read in this episode. But also loved on by the time that we're done.

Adina:

Stick around.

Diane:

Stick around! And I think the working title of this episode has something to do with HTMA, the Hair Tissue Mineral Analysis, but even if you're not someone who's had that done, or that's not on your immediate radar, maybe you're hard on yourself because things aren't working out in your training, in your healing journey, in health in general right now, and you're feeling discouraged, so this is for you too. So,

Adina:

Yeah. Wherever you may feel like you're, you're putting in the work and you're not seeing the results.

Diane:

Yeah, for the effort that you feel like you put in it's just not matching up with with what you had in mind So what we see a lot with this type of new client with these driven women is maybe they've done things already as far as Putting in food changes or upgrading their diet like they go to the farmers market have organic grass fed food They're supporting local farms. Maybe even pick up Yeah, maybe they also make bread or a dabble with Oregon meats and so might consider them more intermediate or advanced, like they're not, you know, going through the drive thru very often, they are like making most of their food at home. And along with that, maybe you have big supplement stacks. You've got quite a routine down. I've seen this plenty of times in client intake forums, like this is my morning, nude and night, and then there are other things that. They have sprinkled in there.

Adina:

Yes. They're doing, they're doing the biohacking. Yeah.

Diane:

all the biohacking and we'll get into some of that lifestyle stuff too. So I mean, on all fronts, food, diet, lifestyle, they've done quite a bit. I'll also see that a lot, a lot of these driven clients, they've already done some digging into testing, whether that's self directed, or they'll tell me, I've worked with a few practitioners before. I'm still just not where I want to be. So maybe that's. Food sensitivity, elimination diets, testing for mold. Like they're now looking into their environment and how they can upgrade that. Or maybe they've even done an htma before, whether on their own or trying to piece together things through TikTok, Instagram courses. I've definitely seen that a

Adina:

Courses, they, maybe they got their labs done with like their naturopath that they've been seeing or their chiropractor, which no shade, no shade. But like, yeah, that is, I feel like the journey that we see with clients is like, they went to this one holistic professional who practices this one way and orders all these tests and then prescribes all these supplements. Yeah.

Diane:

And on the, on the lifestyle front, I'd say a lot of them, at least because I've been, I've been doing stacks of HTMA reviews. That's my done for you package. So seeing a lot of intake forms and a lot of these women are not strangers to exercise too. Like they like to move maybe even too much. And you see this on your end, right?

Adina:

Yeah. It's so interesting because I mean, you've been in. The club for a while, you've done my programming for a while and you see how intentional we are with sets reps, movement patterns, the order of the exercise, how the whole training block works together, the intensities on the different days. Like there are people who think that they are strength training in a way that is supportive of their hormones. And. Sometimes it's just not it. Like it's, I think it's one of those tricky things. We've talked about this on episodes before where I'm lifting weights. So obviously this is strength training and I'm,

Diane:

And for my hormones or five days a week. Like if you're in the gym, lifting five days a week, you know, this is what works for me. And then I see your H2 may, I'm like, is it, we'll get into that.

Adina:

um, yeah. Or you've just kind of been following the same. Bodybuilding style routine that you've been doing your whole life. And it's a lot of sets and a lot of reps and it's just over and over again. And maybe you're not really progressing in load all the time. And you're just kind of sticking to the, to quote my favorite movie, high school musical, sticking to the stuff, you know, she's a little too proud of herself.

Diane:

Is that our buddy Zac

Adina:

Yeah, um, yeah, so like you are like this worked for me at a time and I'm very familiar with it. So I'm going to keep doing this bodybuilding style routine that I've been doing since college. But is it still working for you? We need to ask that question.

Diane:

Yes, totally. And on the biohacking front, this might be, this isn't all, uh, this isn't as common, but, um, certainly some, some. Intakes I've had in mind. They're like, well, I don't know why I'm still feeling like shit. My stomach's a mess. My cycle sucks. I have I bought the Air Doctor, which we do like, bought the Air Doctor. I wear the red goggles. I do castor oil packs. I'm, you know, doing all these things. I have very clean products, but my allergies are still going crazy in the spring, summer, right? All clean makeup, clean, clean, clean, this or that. And feeling frustrated because they've put a lot of time Energy resources like money into upgrading themselves and their home and feel frustrated and a common thread that we'll see to tie all of these together is perhaps we are getting to a point where we are micromanaging our wellness or healthing so hard that we are

Adina:

so hard.

Diane:

Yeah, and then feeling frustrated because that is, that does take a lot of effort, time, energy, and of course you're going to feel exhausted, or of course you're going to feel discouraged when then you go and get an htma with me, with Diane, and you're like, I thought this was going to look different

Adina:

hmm. I thought I was going to get a perfect score

Diane:

A

Adina:

get perfect scores.

Diane:

Yeah, especially like we, I mean if you're a German, you went through school and you'd ace things, you did all the things right. To get that score. And sometimes the hardest thing is to, to simplify, to chill, which we're going to talk about. Um, so maybe you're feeling called out and we promise we're gonna bring it around to an audio hug, but you're not alone. This is a path that a lot of people seem to take because of the way that our, our school's structure and the way that we measure success as kids and as young women, and the way that we think that we need to do to get results is to go hard and to do everything on our own, right? So.

Adina:

Wait, I want to, I want to hang out for a second on the clean beauty thing, because this is just something on my mind. I think the language around that is really significant too. Like for those of you, yeah, for those of you who don't know, I have a past life as an art therapist and I had a mentor in a substance

Diane:

thought you were going to say a beauty counter. Sorry, that was really important stuff. Sorry to interrupt you, but as a past life as a beauty

Adina:

know I'm like substance abuse and you're like, beauty counter. I, I had a mentor in this substance abuse clinic that I worked in for a while. And she like ingrained in my head not to use the language clean. Even though so many clients would use it to describe, you know, where they are on their substance abuse journey, like I've been clean for X amount of time and they all say it, but like constantly reflecting back to them, different language just because of that, the picture that that paints. And I think for those of us that are perfectionists or, you know, the hope is recovering perfectionists, um, that feeling of like, Yeah. The beauty, this beauty is clean. So anything else? Whoa, no. Yes. And

Diane:

nasty. Yeah,

Adina:

is like the dieticians on Tik TOK, who are like artificial colors and flavors are good for you because stress is bad for you, which like. You know, there's, there's a line guys. And like,

Diane:

I do be like that sometimes.

Adina:

know the point is sometimes it's about simplifying and that doesn't mean like throw it all out the window because stress is bad, we're going to help you find the guidance that can simplify it so we're still doing things that are supportive of our health, but we're not trying to like micromanage and health harder and. Nervous system regulate harder,

Diane:

I'm trying to chill harder.

Adina:

which

Diane:

meme where it's like someone pointing in the mirror and she's like, be nicer to yourself, you stupid

Adina:

no, literally that's what it's like on the internet right now. It's just like, you got to do somatic practices harder.

Diane:

And you're like shaking it out. Which, like, that, that shake that I've seen, that does look like it's relaxing. Like, animals do it in the wild when they're stressed.

Adina:

I mean, have you ever seen a toddler have a tantrum? Like sometimes you just got to have a tantrum.

Diane:

Sometimes you gotta thrash around on the ground.

Adina:

Yeah.

Diane:

You got to. Well, I'm, I'm glad that you shared that aside with us. And if you are hearing Doug snoring, it's just, it's just what it is. It's just going to be there. But how, I'm sure some people might be curious because we mentioned HTMA and I will be talking about this in this episode as a tool that we use as, as, we can use as a tool, not a overall marker measure to measure your worth or your, your, all of your progress, but it's, it's helpful to see some of this stuff. And I want you to know kind of the context I look at as a practitioner. So how some of these patterns, these perfectionist health, hard patterns can show up on an HTMA test for a really driven person might be that they're really on the fast side. So for some brief context, when you do the hair tissue mineral analysis test, you're doing those really small haircuts. I'm actually going to do mine today. When I see my hairstylist, my curly hairstylist is you're taking like a teaspoon of hair and that's going to give us so, give us so much information about your current metabolism. inflammation, nutrient deficiencies, your nervous system, so much, right? There are eight possible results and there's no perfect one. But the more we are away from that balanced middle, the more dysregulated we are. And so a pattern I often see with these really driven women is that they're on that fast side. So there's imagine fast one, two, three, or four, a fast one or slow ones a bit more balanced. They have the flexibility to go between the rested parasympathetic state and the fight or flight sympathetic state. The the The one that we need to, to do things, to run from predators. They're more on that fast four side. So they're burning through a lot of resources constantly. And I'd kind of liken this to running on fumes. Maybe this person has been operating in this state of get shit done for years. Hard on themselves. They always have a lot of things going on and they're burning through resources. So we'll see that reflected. Like things are really low across the board.

Adina:

And the reason that we love digging into an htma for these types of clients, we've talked about this before. Stress hormones feel very good until they very don't. So sometimes if you're that client where you're like, Oh, You don't realize because you've been operating like this for so long, right? Like since middle school, you were like trying to get that a plus, and now you're just trying to trad wife perfectly and, you know, apply it to whatever your current lifestyle

Diane:

been on TikTok.

Adina:

So apply it to whatever your current lifestyle is, but sometimes you need the receipt to show you like, Oh,

Diane:

Yeah. My data driven, like, yes. My data driven, like, I'm thinking of some engineers that are clients that I've worked with, or business owners, they like to see this because for them, too, it is validating to be like, Oh, shut it. Like, you can tell me I need to chill, but I need to see it on paper. A lot of times the people who have those really fast results, they also, they have a really hard time understanding Sewing down, or maybe like the thought of sitting and watching High School Musical or anything without also doing something at the same time. Cleaning the house, doing laundry, doing something feels really uncomfy. Or just being in quiet

Adina:

I'm gonna call them out right now. If you're listening to this podcast on 2x while you're watching your kids or while, you know, uh,

Diane:

what we sound like on 2X? Cause I

Adina:

I know we already talk pretty fast.

Diane:

Yeah, really fast. Those, and I'll be honest, when I see a faster result, I tell clients this too in their review is, when you're on that really fast side, that really depleted side, we didn't get there overnight. So like Adina was saying, stress hormones feel good until they don't. So those really fast, metabolizers, like they were burning and churning through their resources for some time. They say that they love these hardcore 5 a. m. workouts or they love intensity. They like caffeine. They like listening to things really fast, doing a lot of things until they hit a wall. And they're like, why do I feel so shitty? And really fast types. They do. It does take longer to. Balance that versus someone who might be a slow one or a fast one just because of the state of depletion that we're seeing on the test

Adina:

yeah,

Diane:

So that's just something to know. And I like to put that out there because I don't want to, to fluff it up and say like, Oh, well, we can change this quickly. And at the same time, I have seen several clients because a lot of my clients, they've done one, two, three plus HTMAs over the last few years together. I have seen where women are fast fours, and it's like an aha moment of, they're like, I need to leave my job. Or, Yes,

Adina:

I need to move to the beach. If you live in New York City, you're probably a fast forward. There's no way around it.

Diane:

Yeah, walks so fast. Yes, I mean, and leaving your job is not something that we're going to tell you to do. But I have had clients who were like, I was a fast four, and other things were going awry, and like seeing how depleted I was, and the toll that stress has taken on my body, I needed to make a change. Or maybe it's just really a sign that like, wow, I've done so much for other people that it's really time for For me to be nicer to myself and to let more shit go. So for that, that's helpful. Another thing that I'll see on the HTMA is when I look at the significant ratios, it's on the second page of that test. It's comparing some of the minerals against each other. I'm always looking at things holistically, right? And so we're not going to go in too into the weeds on this, but it'll tell us a bit more about different systems in the body, like blood sugar, adrenals, so on. So I'll often see with these really goal getter women that they have a high nervous system ratio and really low adrenals. So that's telling me that maybe right now, she doesn't have the bandwidth to make changes. I'll see this, not just on the really fast metabolizers, but maybe they're like, Yeah, I know I need, something needs to change, but I just feel so exhausted by this. And so me as a practitioner, seeing that, and then also reading through all of her health history, Her journal, like, I know, we're gonna take this a little bit slow, like, she might want to really get out of where she is right now. But for her to have the stamina and to heal well from where she's at, we're gonna really phase this out in her plan. Because her body's clearly saying, we are on fumes right

Adina:

Yeah, we're not going to have the resources for big lifestyle change right now.

Diane:

the htma is kind of like not reading tarot, but like, sometimes some of these, these patterns that I look at, right, because we're not looking at any one nutrient chasing it down. We're looking at how they all play together. I'm like, okay, this person based on where her minerals at probably prone to anger. And sometimes there are certain patterns where they're like, I haven't seen my results yet. I'm like, you

Adina:

Well, I know what they are already. You don't have to tell me.

Diane:

they're very eager for it, of course. And like, I know people are just excited, but sometimes like they're really fast. Fast metabolizers. They're like, when can I expect this? Really eager. And I'm like, all right, I see some very prone to like feeling grouchy patterns on the htma

Adina:

grouchy.

Diane:

Htma behind the scenes. So let's bring it around to the audio hugs and some some helpful Big sis chats here.

Adina:

to sum up, this is good news.

Diane:

What? Yeah, what do we need? What do we need? So maybe you feel a little red like a book right now. We're calling you out, but we're gonna call you in and so if you're identifying with a lot of what we're sharing or you've had An h2o may result like what I just did The opportunities are in simplifying, in simplifying your routine. And for example, I'll often see redundant supplements. So if someone has a hefty stack, I'm like, girl, let's look at this. There are oftentimes things that we don't need given your top goals or concerns. Maybe there are things that you're not ready for. So I guess just a brief example is someone has been dealing with gut issues her whole life. And really itchy, a lot of what I know, like high histamine stuffs, right? And so she had a lot of things that are objectively nutrient rich and great supplements on paper, but her body's not ready for them right now. So we pulled those out there and really streamlined it, saved her some cash, and having to swallow like a bunch of pills.

Adina:

Something's wailing. Is that my baby? Okay, we're back you didn't know that we were gone But it's 10 p. m over here and we got a stomach bug running through my house and

Diane:

through Adina yet.

Adina:

Oh my God. It's only a matter of time, honestly, but my baby woke up wailing. So I had to go tend to that and we're going to get right back into it. But this is the real life stuff that happens.

Diane:

That's real life. And you know what? I'm going to take a sip of water. Like my angles have probably changed and you're going to hear some ice, but

Adina:

I'll take one

Diane:

we're almost through and that's just real life. And then we'll blow out of here. Just like someone may have blown out their diaper. Yeah.

Adina:

that was the case

Diane:

Yeah. So what were we talking about? We're talking about simplifying. And so some common things that I'll see on these goal getter burned out HTMA results is having, lot, a hefty supplement stack, some things that maybe they don't need, some added extras, but just things they don't need to focus their resources, their monies on just yet. I'll also see, we did a nod to biohacking earlier in this episode. Yes, some of those things are great, but they may be some practices or lifestyle habits that I would see best used in like a phase three, like a couple months down the road when we have heavier foundational lifting to do, even for these more advanced. women, like we may not need that air doctor or that mold test or the other changes to your environment, your, your faucets, your water filters just yet.

Adina:

or your contrast therapy or, or ever, you know, we've done episodes about that, but, um, Something I want to say to this person, because I know you, is you may be hearing this and you may be rolling your eyes and thinking, doing less can't be the answer. I hear them saying it, but that can't, yeah. Like, obviously I still need my stack and my routine and my, you know, Foods that I don't eat, and, you know.

Diane:

Yeah. And my livers and all the things into that. I say that is where guidance, professional guidance is so key. And it's like, of course, they're saying that they're coaches. Yes. And

Adina:

Because. We're coaches because.

Diane:

And we hire coaches ourselves. I mean, I'm thinking of this in the context of business coaching, right? And Adina and I did a, a program or a mastermind within the last year. And I remember before signing up, I'm like, well, I know some of these things. I kind of know some things I should or shouldn't be doing, but one, as I, was I doing them and doing them consistently and. Honestly, the biggest takeaway that I get when I work with a business coach or a health practitioner is getting out of my own way and out of my own head and really simplifying things. Yeah, some of these things I've researched on my own, or you might know all the great things about magnesium or mineral, some of the stuff that we see on the HTMA, but putting it into practice in a way that works really well for your health and your body is a totally different thing. And having someone streamline things for you. Also a totally different thing. So I also want to hold your hand when I say this, that I know it can be hard to ask for help and maybe you've spent decades of your life getting shit done and being applauded for it. But now you're in a place where your body is telling you, perhaps screaming at you that you can't keep running on empty, that something's got to change and it's going to have to be you and you can ask for help.

Adina:

yes. And I love what you were saying about. Streamlining and the guidance, because part of what that eliminates is the noise and sometimes the noise it's, what's keeping you stressed out. Like sometimes the decision fatigue and the information hunting and the information overload and the constantly seeking and the constantly researching and listening and. That can be contributing to so much of that. That's driving the stress. I actually just talked about this on Instagram the other day, but I've been in the fitness industry for over a decade. I can easily write a program at the snap of a finger. I will never leave my results to chance by not following a program, because I know how many decisions I have to make in a day. And if I had to make the decision to come upstairs, approach my kettlebells and first think, what am I doing today? It would never happen. I would never even come up here and approach my kettlebells if I didn't already know exactly what I was going to be doing in my training that day. Not to mention that that's a recipe for not getting the results you want because you gotta

Diane:

random workouts,

Adina:

yeah.

Diane:

results.

Adina:

Um, but I would never leave that up to chance. I would never leave That moment for busyness, for thoughts in my head to be like, should I do the double bell squat or the single bell squat today? You know, like I know the recipe, but I would never ever allow for any of that busyness, any of that decision fatigue to get in the way of my training and to get in the way of my results. It's just not an option. I'm going to do a program, even if it's my own programming, which is what I'm doing now. I do my own programming, but that programming is written in advance. It's already waiting for me in a training app so that I know I train on Sunday, Tuesday, and Thursday. Actually in the summer, it's Sunday, Tuesday, Friday, just a little update. It's too hot to train Thursday mornings. And Diane and I record this podcast Thursday nights. So I'm doing my training on Friday, but I know that I train on those days. And I know that when I'm ready to train. I open my app, my workout is there, no thinking involved, no time for me to talk myself out of it, no busyness, no added stress from that busyness. And it keeps me committed and it keeps me feeling wonderful. And sometimes that's it. That's the answer. Simplify it, have the answer waiting for you so that you can just show up, do it and get the actual results that you want. Because if you don't feel good, something needs to change.

Diane:

Yes, I love all of that. Less thinking and more doing. I mean, I love that about being in your club, SDHH club, because at the end of the day, when you're already exhausted, you physically don't feel well. Thinking of what foods should I or shouldn't I eat? Should I go and do all this biohacking? Or maybe do I just need to go get my book for some pleasure and like get in bed? Like, what do I do for training? I'm so tired. And You're saving yourself a lot of energy leaks when you're working with a coach. Now you've heard me talk about the HTMA review, which I'll talk about in a little bit, and that's done for you. So you are DIYing with something like that, but it's all laid out for you. And maybe you're also someone who's a goal getter, and you're thinking as you listen through this episode, well, I'm going to get the HTMA and see like what my type is right now. And you certainly could do that on your own, but what I want you to hear is not only are we, Just doing that not only where are we using the htma when i'm looking at a client's test I'm also looking at the context of her comprehensive health history how she's feeling what her sleeps like when she's waking up What her childhood health look like like we go deep there I'm looking at food journals if they are sharing one with me another assessment called the knack So i'm looking at all of those the context of a full person and how she's feeling her goals her concerns You And the test, because just looking at paper, there's a lot of takeaways I can see as a practitioner from an HTMA, but I want to know the full story, and how you're moving through your day in order to make a plan that is approachable, and suited for your needs and stage of life right now.

Adina:

Yeah, and

Diane:

there's a lot.

Adina:

I want to speak specifically to this person that we've been speaking to the entire episode. If you have this perfectionist mindset, if you've always been this goal getter, if you've always been really hard on yourself, doing that on your own might have you being way harder on yourself than will contribute to your healing. You know, that sentence was confusing, but what I mean is that sometimes the value in a coach there, Is helping you to see the things that you're actually doing really, really well and helping you to have more gratitude towards yourself and helping you to love on yourself a little bit more and find space for that play and that pleasure where you might look at your schedule and be like, I need to get this done and I need to get that done. And, oh, this is what my HTML results said. Like, Oh, I'm such a shitty mom. And I yelled at my kids and I did that, you know, like, We tend to be so hard on ourselves and sometimes the value in a coach and someone to guide you is just reflecting back on, well, here are all the things you're doing really, really well. And here are all the things that aren't going well because they don't fit your needs right now. Like get rid of that, cross that off your list, you know, just like we were saying this theme of simplifying, sometimes having outside objective eyeballs on your lifestyle and your routine. Can really help you to dial in the things that are non negotiables and get those running really smoothly. And then just get rid of the things that don't need to be there and make space for more play, more relaxation, you know, not regulating your nervous system harder, like we were talking about

Diane:

helping as a hobby, as you said, but I mean, it all brings it back to what you've, I know we've said this many times on past episodes is we as coaches help you get the most. out of the least. So really streamlining things, making it simple but effective. And especially for this woman that we've been talking to this whole episode, maybe in the past when you've done a protocol, a program, course, whatever, with someone else or on your own, you're like, I'm an all or nothing. I like to go all in. And I love the enthusiasm and the energy that you're bringing to this. But the way that I've seen. to be most effective for my clients is to phase out their plans, especially when they're on that really fast burned outside. So that plan, maybe for the first four weeks we're really focusing on some food adjustments. And you might feel like, well, I see in a later stage of my plan, Diane has that some things on lifestyle shifts or some other supplements, and I'm ready to add them in now. And I have put them into phases for a reason so you can implement and adjust. And there's also the reality of some people might have started a supplement and gone too much too soon. soon and then you're not sure which one is causing a healing reaction or some kind of symptom and instead of just throwing it all into the supplement graveyard or quitting or burning out when this new plan energy wanes, when you follow something that is intentionally phased out for you, you're going to have more stamina and energy to see it through for the long haul because my plans are built in three phases right now for these HTMA reviews. Phase one, we're doing a lot of food and lifestyle. Phase two, we might layer in some more, some more food or more advanced things. Phase three, that's where maybe we're thinking about environment a little bit more. But we're not going in swinging.

Adina:

Yeah. Um, just.

Diane:

that's really important.

Adina:

One thing that happened today that made me think of this, I have been really trying to simplify, I think since we moved, that's been like a big theme for me. And today Donnie cleaned our air conditioning filter and he was like, you do not even want to see what was in there. And he starts like describing it. I'm like, I do, please do not tell me I do not want to spiral. I'm having a wonderful summer, just like being outdoors, playing with the kids, ease, just some more ease to my life. And I've been feeling wonderful. Like I don't want to start thinking what has been pumping through my air conditioning filter into my children's bedroom, you know?

Diane:

You're like, that's not my business. That's not my business. Yeah, because sometimes like, information can be helpful, but do we want to firehose ourselves with it? So like, If you have gone to a naturopath or someone who's like, out the gate, we're going to do an HTMA, but we're also going to do gut. We're going to do mold testing. We're going to do all this. Do we, do we need to do that? Probably not. Most definitely not.

Adina:

Wait. So what I don't want people listening to hear though, is that Is, oh great, I just don't have to do anything for my health, and then I'll feel better, like, I'll just, let me

Diane:

Matata.

Adina:

Matata, let me just start eating ten pies of pizza a week, and not focusing on my health, and then I'll suddenly feel better. There, it's a, it's a nuance here. There still is an element of, do the work. It's just about streamlining the work and finding more ease around the work. So the example I want to give here is like, oftentimes in the holistic health space, we have people who burn themselves out training too hard and then they're like, Oh, the training is the problem. I need

Diane:

I'll just stop

Adina:

stop training. I need to walk and maybe do some yoga or do nothing and lay on the floor while I heal. Because the heat, the training was the problem and that is so stressful. And, you know, you've been here long enough to hear us say like, that is absolutely not true. You need to train, you need to build strength, you need to build athleticism, but like, we need to do this in a way that is strategic. So you need to do the work. You need to show up for your training sessions two or three times a week. Indefinitely. But like, where can we cut out the stuff that's not serving you? and only do the stuff that is going to move the needle and make you feel wonderful inside of your body. Yes.

Diane:

Without also acknowledging like a big population that I work with especially with htmas is women who have their eyes towards conception To conceiving to catching a baby in the next few months And so they might be faced with all these options of like do I do iui? Or my doctor tells me I might have to do this treatment and I need to test my progesterone so many options that women who pre pregnancy, during pregnancy are inundated with and this really helps us streamline and I Find that they come out when we work together through this and maybe through pregnancy postpartum they come out with a lot more peace of mind and ease and can focus on other things in their life like spending time with their partner before baby having fun trying to conceive or Picking up a hobby again because they're not healthy as a hobby anymore Because they have their plans sorted out, you know? So, especially those women thinking of preconception, pregnancy, getting your cycle right after birth control, working with a coach, knowing where your minerals are at before that chapter of your life is so helpful. Yes. Well, now we want to end things out here on a audio hug note. Now, this last opportunity for Driven Women is to To chill. It's the devil we know, but okay. What can that look like without, as Adina has been saying this episode, like, what did you say? Nervous system and

Adina:

Regulate harder!

Diane:

regulate harder. What can that look like? Especially if you are someone who's feel felt discouraged by lab results, or you're just feeling discouraged on your journey, here's what we can do. One of my favorite things is tapping. That body based practice you've heard me talk about, especially for reframing perfectionist mindset. And I love it because it really gets you into your body. You're not just sitting there and quiet because that might be really hard for some of the fast metabolizers is to sit quiet. You're actually moving and doing something gets you into your body. But another reason I really like tapping for you girlies is you're not intellectualizing something, you're, or internalizing it, you're acknowledging it and moving through it with something like tapping. maybe you're thinking or maybe you're like, yeah, yeah, I heard about tapping from another podcast or a course or whatnot, but are we doing it? And yeah, relaxing is great and helpful, but you can't get yourself there if you're just trying to think your way out of it. I think you need to really move through it and acknowledge it. And a big part of tapping, at least the way that I do it with clients or have done it in group sessions is acknowledging where you at, accepting that, instead of trying to leap to where you want to be. Like, you're not going to tap and be like, I am healthy, I have a perfect cycle right now. Because sometimes you are discouraged, and so it can take 5 minutes, it can take 15, however long you want to give to it. Notice if you're someone listening about tapping and you're like, Okay, well, exactly how many, how many minutes, how many phrases, and what points do I really need to tap on? It's flexible and that's what I love about it. But some things I want to offer you if you're even slightly familiar with tapping that my clients have really liked, we've been using this a lot in like some audio messages lately, is maybe coming back to I'm healing everyday, tapping on that. If you're someone who's anxious, that could be on this collarbone point here. Um, sometimes people like this one on the temples. I'm healing every day. That's a nice one to come back to, or a very, very simple structure that I've used with clients is even though I feel X insert thing, even though I feel discouraged about my HTMA. So that's the first part. The second part, I love and accept myself. Maybe saying I love myself is really hard right now, but you could say I accept myself, even though. I'm feeling, whatever that is, and then really just going through that a little bit, or maybe it's something positive too that you want to move through, like, I get to love my body today, instead of, oh, I have to do my STHH workout. Oh, I have to do this. I get to move my body today. You know, those are some other ones. The last one. I don't have to have the perfect labs or body to take, um, or take every supplement to be worthy. This not even has to be a tapping thing. This is just me telling you. And something I've told clients several times over the past few weeks when they're discouraged is you don't have to be taking every supplement or have perfect labs in order to be worthy or to be good. That's it. So you also don't have to nail those in order to have this rest that Adina and I are talking about. So I

Adina:

I'm going to quote a Bluey episode.

Diane:

We love Bluey.

Adina:

There is an amazing Bluey episode called Relax. If you haven't watched it, I highly recommend it. It is so pertinent to the topic today where the mom, mum, is, they're going on this family vacation and she keeps rushing everyone along because she's like, hurry up and bring up the suitcases. I'm, I need to start relaxing. And she keeps rushing everyone along and the kids are so excited in the hotel room. They're unwrapping the little soaps and they're opening up the toilets and they're unfolding the bed and they're looking at how big the bathtub is. And she's like, quickly outside to the beach. I need to relax. And

Diane:

start to relax.

Adina:

And then the dad kicks her out and is like, go relax by yourself. Like the kids are fine here. I'll watch them go relax. And she gets to the beach and she's like. I don't know how to relax. And then she comes back to the hotel and she sees the kids just this ease to their play and their joy. And that kind of opens up this opportunity for her to understand what it means to actually relax and just enjoy your time. And it really hit me. And I think that what I want to leave you with this, especially in this summer season, is if you have kids and. You're hanging out with them and you find yourself trying to let them do their own thing and be busy with the to do list that you need to accomplish. Something that's really been serving me this summer is just getting in the weeds with them on the play. Like we've been having just more ease and flow to this summer. And I think it's because I've just been allowing myself to dance and play and run in the sprinklers with them a little bit more.

Diane:

To relax now and play now.

Adina:

They're the pros. They, they are the relaxing pros. They know how to

Diane:

kids are

Adina:

their time. Yeah. If you can get yourself on that level, like, I think that might open up a lot of doors for you.

Diane:

That's what I love about kids and I think just helps as an adult when you're so used to doing and doing things is coming back to that, that. Curiosity and that play has been so helpful to see how, see how they act in the world. Whether you have them or not, I think a takeaway I just heard from that cute Bluey episode is, instead of thinking, I'll relax or I'll be happy when my htma looks good, when my body is a certain size, what can you do? appreciate right now. Maybe you're not pregnant yet, but PMS didn't suck this cycle, or you are trusting that it's on its way because you have been doing a lot of things in service of your health and lifestyle. So don't discount all the things that you've already done. They might not have worked out ideally as you wanted, but look at where you're at right now, and chances are you've done a lot more than you've given yourself credit for, and don't think that You'll be happy when something is perfect, because otherwise you're going to keep chasing the next thing. So I think that's where tapping, playing with kids, hopefully just not a random stranger's kids.

Adina:

Don't collect them at the park. Um,

Diane:

with you? Should be helpful. Yeah,

Adina:

I think one more opportunity in that, and then we'll close it out is perhaps the relaxing and the finding of the space and the simplifying and the making things less perfect is in that. things that you're already doing daily, but it's just finding the appreciation there. So like maybe you're getting that loaf of sourdough into the oven. Sometimes when I say these things, I'm like, our audience is specific. So. Maybe you're, you know, you're trying to get that loaf of sourdough into the oven instead of rushing it as this thing that I need to do that's on my to do list where you have a podcast in your ear and it's on 2x speed and you're trying to learn something new about your health. Maybe you take out the headphone and you just focus on the bread and you fold the dough and you enjoy the moment and you think about what the dough feels like and how incredible it is that you can take this age old tradition and bring this nourishment into your home and really appreciate those simple things and find the simplicity and the moment in the things that you're already doing. Just taking them from chore to this art form, this thing that I get to do and enjoy and relax with. I don't know if that's

Diane:

I love

Adina:

yeah, if

Diane:

I love

Adina:

for anyone, I'm

Diane:

I like walking, walking without headphones in the evening. I do like two walks. And in the evening I've been going without headphones and just looking at the trees. And I mean, I could like go on, it's gonna be like, did Diane stop edibles through this pregnancy? But really just bringing that observation and presence, it becomes a moving meditation. So you don't have to sit quietly to get that joy. So how can you cut the crap and simplify faster? If you listen to this episode and you're like, help me cut the crap, help me. And maybe let's also do an HTMA. Coaching or working with a professional is going to be the closest thing to a shortcut that we can give to you. And I, um, I think I've shared this before, but I will be taking Matt leave when this bae bae arrives around the holidays. So if working together has been in your radar, I will be closing that, I think, end of October for HTMA reviews. So if you want to see the secrets that are in your hair, I We can do an htma review. That's the hair tissue mineral analysis. I also have an option for returning clients. If you had a test in the last six months and it's time for that retest, we have a light option. And I also have a couple, at the time of this recording, one or two spots left for some one on one upgrades if you want some of that live FaceTime. So we'll put all that info in the show notes. And something I want, if you want to see what an actual client thought of this, I wanted to share with you quickly. what a client shared with me after she got her plan last week. She said, this is so much more informative and helpful than anything I've ever received from a doctor or health professional after she saw her HTM a plan and her notes.

Adina:

That's it. That's right. We care.

Diane:

that's it. We spend a lot of time with you and want you to be able to enjoy your summer and your life without going so dang hard.

Adina:

Yes. And if you are looking for someone to simplify the strength training side of things, you know where to find me. If you have not done STHH yet, get your cute little booty on in there. If you are a newly postpartum or coming up on a postpartum season, the postpartum program is getting a poured into with all of the love and care on this earth that me and coach Veronica have, and it is going to be absolutely epic. I'm, I'm just like so excited for the women who already purchased it because once this program is at its full birth and like, I think people are going to be shocked at what they got for the price they paid if they got in early. Um, which I know so many people who bought STHH at the very beginning have had that experience after its evolution. Um, and if you have already done STHH or one of our other flagship programs, come on down to The Clerb. It is a grand old time. We are having so much fun in there. In The Clerb, we all fam.

Diane:

I'll be doing B day today. So drink your water, stay hydrated,

Adina:

Stay sassy.

Diane:

You're doing great.

Adina:

You're doing great. Just unclench that b hole and away we go. Love

Diane:

Away we go. Love you. Bye bye.

Adina:

Bye.