How to Say No and Still Get Promoted

Saying yes to everything won’t get you promoted — it’ll just burn you out.

In this episode, we unpack why high-achieving women struggle to say no at work, and how to set boundaries without guilt, backlash, or blowing up your professional brand.

You’ll learn:

• Why saying no builds leadership credibility
•  How to set limits without sounding difficult
•  Strategic scripts to protect your time
•  How to stop spiraling after you say no

✨ This is your playbook for setting boundaries like a boss — calmly, clearly, and without apology.

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Transcript

Michelle Kevill: 0:37

Hello, my corporate survivalists. How are we? So I want to talk to you about saying no and why it feels like such a risk in corporate and this kind of leads on from the episode I created around your like motherhood and work, because it touched on something that's really real, which is a lot of the women that I've worked with over the year, including myself, many years ago, I felt so like I just didn't even think I could be able to say no when I was completely at over capacity, etc, and I just thought it was going to absolutely ruin my reputation. And that's what I want to talk about today, because it feels it can feel like such a risk in corporate and it's not just about boundaries. It's really about your identity, fear of judgment and decades of conditioning that made you believe that being helpful is actually your highest value. So no wonder it can feel so terrifying like you're putting your reputation on the line when you want to say no. But what if you could say no in a way that protects your time and your professional brand? And that is what we're here to do today, because most of the women I work with either are saying yes to everything out of fear that they'll be seen as difficult, lazy or not a team player, they'll avoid placing any boundaries altogether, because they associate them with conflict, selfishness or addiction, or I would say, for a lot of women, they feel torn knowing they need to say no, but they're stuck in this guilt, shame and dread about how it's going to land. And the reality is, you can say no without ruin your rep, ruining your reputation, but you need to learn how to do it strategically, calming, oh my god, calmly and without betraying yourself in the process. Saying no isn't rejecting the game. It's learning the rules properly, so you stop getting penalized for moves that you didn't even know that you were making or inadvertently agreeing to. And because, like, this episode is really for every woman. So when I was stuck in my complete overworking phase, my husband all the time used to just be like, just say no. And it would I feel? Would feel so goddamn triggering.

Unknown: 2:59

I'd be like, Excuse me, I am trying to do that, or I

Michelle Kevill: 3:04

cannot say no. But like with everything that I've learned, this is how I want to frame it, like it's not about saying no. It's the way you say no, because the goal of today's episode is I want to help you confidently say no in the workplace without feeling like a bad person sabotaging your reputation or getting stuck in an anxiety loop, you are going to learn how to say no in an indirect, strategic way that builds your professional brand instead of breaking it down. Like, if someone said that to me many years ago, I'd be like, oh, yeah, that makes sense, like, how do I say no without actually saying no? And look, if you are tired of being everyone's favorite doormat with a to do list, then you should subscribe to my email list. It is cheeky, strategic, and way more satisfying than ignoring that passive aggressive calendar invite. So go on, Queen your invoice. Oh my god, your inbox deserves some spice. I have been re recording parts, and just just gotten to the point where I'm like, I'm gonna fumble a little bit. That is okay. Okay. So what we're going to cover is, I want to talk to you about the real psychological reason high achieving women like yourself struggle to say no, and why saying yes isn't always the power move you think it is. Why saying no is actually strategic, and how it can get you promoted, if done in a right way, and what saying no actually looks like in corporate, because hint, it is rarely like super direct. And also why saying no is actually such a crucial leadership skill and how it will support your career growth. Okay, saying yes is not a power move. Let me tell you why. Let's be real. You are not clueless. You know you're over committing, you know you're burning out, but saying no still feels impossible, not necessarily because you don't know how, but because it is triggering something much deeper in you. So I want to talk about it. Let's unpack the real psychological reasons this is so hard for you and not the way to get promoted, especially if you're a high achieving corporate women, because here is what is likely going on underneath the surface, right? You think saying no equals being difficult? Because if you have spent years being praised for being the easy one, right, whether it's at work, school or at childhood, you know you're the reliable one. Saying no now feels like you're becoming one of those people you know, demanding high maintenance, selfish, not a team player. But here's the thing, boundaries don't make you difficult chronic. Agreeableness makes you replaceable, and the more you say yes to avoid is being seen as too much, the more invisible and undervalued it you become. It is not noble. It sabotages your career with a smile when you say yes to everything. People are also assuming that, like you're not having necessarily some priorities, right? They start expecting you to over deliver. They stop seeing you as a leader, because, again, leadership does require some discernment, not compliance. I used to have a thought that I used to practice when I was way in the thick of this, many years ago, that I used to say the kids don't need candy, and what I meant by that, in my mind, it was to remind myself that while saying yes makes that person feel good in the moment, it's not always what they need. Sometimes I would have to do the work to be like, Why am I saying no to this? And how can I show them the value that I can bring if, like, you know, we're doing it this way, or I drop this and do that, and we'll get into that in a little bit more later in the episode. The next reason you know psychological stuff going on for you is that you have confused output with worth. All right? You believe your value is in how much you do for everyone. Saying no, can feel like you're lowering your price tag, okay, but your worth isn't in your task count. It's in your ability to discern the theme of every single episode is, how do I develop your discernment? Ie good judgment. All right, that means you're not valuable just because you can smash through more tasks than anyone else, or you're saying yes to everything. You're valuable because you can prioritize what actually matters. Anyone can hustle, but not everyone can make smart trade offs and in leadership, discernment is what makes you irreplaceable. Tax completion is expected, but discernment is respected. The next is like you're over calibrated to other emotions. This is so true, especially if you are neurodivergent, right? You might notice every pause, every sigh, every change in tone, when you push back and you assume it's your fault, but their discomfort doesn't mean you've done something wrong, and it's not your job to emotionally babysit adults. So if you grew up in environments where soothing others kept you safe, that passion can follow you into work without even realizing it. But the corporate world is not your childhood home and over functioning here does not create safety. It instead creates burnout. The next is you've mistaken being liked for being effective. Being helpful was a safe strategy for you, likely like it kept you liked, but this is a thing. It doesn't get you promoted in the corporate world. Respect is earned through clarity, not compliance. Compliance may win you in the short like short term, approval, polite nods and thank yous and the illusion of being seen as easy to work with, but over time, it does undermine your credibility, because when you never say no, people are not going to be looking at you for leadership. They were going to start seeing you as someone who just takes directions versus someone who sets the direction. And the next is maybe you've just had a like a past backlash when you have said no. Maybe someone has made you feel bad or retaliated when you said no before, so now your body is going into Patek node at the thought of it, which means you don't need just need better language, right? You also need emotional regulation to rebuild that safety from the inside out. Knowing these reasons are so important, because whenever I work with women and they're burnt out and they're saying yes to everything, it usually comes along the lines of this, and when you realize where it's truly coming from, then you can make the decision of how you want to intentionally move forward. Because now I really want to sell you on why? Saying no is actually strategic, and it gets you promoted. And I know it can feel like the opposite at the time, right? Saying no isn't selfish. It is strategic. You do better work when you're not stretched thin. You become more creative. You avoid decision fatigue, you stop setting false expectations. You actually protect your reputation by protecting your time. And let's not forget, I'm just going to say it, managers do not promote, yes, oh my god yes, yes. Machines, managers do not promote, yes. Machines, they promote people who can prioritize, push back and manage capacity. You. Like, even if it's 9pm and someone sends you, like a quick review request, like you are allowed to say, I'll look and confidently as well, I will look at this first thing in the morning, you are allowed to close your laptop. You are allowed to not be available. Saying no builds respect. It teaches others that your time matters, that you are not a doormat, you are a professional. And again, I want you to know it's kind of like long term gains for I'm not saying it right. When someone says, when you say yes to someone, that person is happy, right? And that makes you feel good, but then you keep doing it more and more, you've set an expectation, and then you start to feel bad and burn out saying no, which I'll get into. How to do it in a corporate way. Might feel like crap in the short term, but it actually gives you benefits and gains in the long term, and that is so important to distinguish, right? So how do you actually say no in corporate because I feel like a lot of people miss this. I hear people talk a lot about some of the inner work, which is what I've done in the past. And then some people just go straight into like, this is what you should stay and I'm like, we need to meet in the middle. You need to blend the two together. Okay? This is not about becoming super blunt overnight or suddenly, just like earning a worth in like, the most fiery moment, right? It is about a gradual, strategic practice and self regulation, okay, whenever I refer to in any of my episodes, when I talk about regulation, I'm talking about, how do you calm yourself down, right? How do you get yourself back from like that hyper, anxious state to something even a little bit more calm, so that you can think more clearly, because that stress does affect how your brain is operating in that time, and like my really early episodes, goes into all the science around that so over time, when you practice this slowly, that no starts to feel less terrifying and more empowering. So here are some three key tips that you can start to do that I recommend to all my clients, right? I want you to start small. You do not need to say no to the whole executive team. I want you to start with declining a catch up with a colleague that you know you don't want to do, not volunteering or like straight away, putting up your hand for that extracurricular thing you know, saying I'm actually full this week to appear, then what I want you to do is make a list from one to 10 rank the things that you struggle to say no with, and then start with the easiest one. Practice something like that once a week. It's literally exposure therapy. You are not aiming to be perfectly like perfect right now and then get it fully right. But also I want to make it clear I don't want you to aim for perfect honesty. Either you're aiming to practice setting limits, even if you have to stretch the truth a little bit, like, maybe you say I'm at capacity when technically, like, you could do it, but it possibly would burn you out, but then your brain is doing that thing, or it's like, Oh, I could fit this. Oh, I could fit this in. Blah, blah, blah. That is not being deceptive. What you're doing is you're breaking a pattern of gaslighting yourself into over committing. So whenever my clients would be like, oh, like, I felt like I would take it on, I'm like, No, I want you to say no. I would just, if you even are like, 50% capacity, say just No. Just trial it. If you are a yes person all the time, I want you to start just trialing it very slowly, you know, small, incremental ways. The next thing I need you to do this is so freaking important. Regulate the emotion, not the situation. I'm going to say it again. Regulate the emotion, not the situation. You're not scared of the No. You're scared of the feelings that will come after okay. You're scared of how you will treat yourself when you say no, and you will let that person's experience whether they show it or not, whether it's negative or not, like you will use anything, any evidence in the world, to be like, see, this is why you can't say no. So what I need you to do is just draft your no email, but don't send it yet. Like, sit with a feeling. Notice where it is in your body. Is it in your chest, your gut? I want you to breathe through it. I want you to do the best you can, to let us let it pass. This sounds like basic stuff, but I'm telling you right now it is so crucial, and it's the basic stuff that gets you like I just someone like me who intellectualizes Everything. It really this is the stuff that I had to really work to train myself on training your nervous system to hold discomfort and not run from it. That's emotional maturity. That is leadership. Okay? Tip three, I'm going to tell you how to say no indirectly or in the corporate way. Look, no one in corporate especially when you're in a virgin, no one says just outright, no. All right, this is code switching at its goddamn finest. It's adapting your message to match the culture without diluting your boundary. So in corporate we don't say no outright. We wrap it in collaboration and timeline constraints or capacity signals. It's not fake. It's just being fluent with the culture. Again, think about it as a language. If you want more info on this, head to Episode Four and Episode Five. I talk about this in office politics, right? Because the more you can speak the unspoken language of corporate while still holding your line, the more power and influence you will start to build. So here are within this three safe, strategic ways to say no, that doesn't necessarily trigger resistance. All right? So option one is offering like, I can do x if we shift y, right? Like, I'm happy to support this. I can pick this up right now. Get this done by x if we de prioritize this and move the timeline for z. What do you think? Right? It's showing initiative. It is singling capacity. Is inviting collaboration. Next, one, option two, like, you know, I've wonder where you just being honest around I've got a bit on right now, but how you might say it is something like, you know, I'd love to help, and I'm fully booked with Project X at the moment, so I'll do what I can in the meantime. But I just want to set some expectations. So what you're actually saying is like, I'm at capacity, and I'm managing expectations. I'm not going to be available right now. You may offer something like, I can do, like, a high level summary, or something like that. The other one is, like, it won't be put, like, moving the timeline. It won't be possible this week. So, like, this week is actually really booked out, but, and I really want to maintain the quality on this one, like, are we able to revisit it in the next sprint fortnight? Whatever. It's clear, kind and honest. Again, you do not need to justify endlessly. You just need to be calm, direct enough and consistent. Okay, see how these are examples of no without you saying no, because I realized I was like, Oh, this is really a no, but it's not. It's just, it's just being honest with what's going on right now, but again, just layering it in corporate terms to summarize above and all my little points on this right? Because I know how hard it is every time like we, like you, say no and the feelings and stuff, I want you to remind yourself this every time you say yes to something you do not have capacity for, you are also saying no to your lunch break, that deep work, block, post work, recovery and your piece, the real question isn't if you're saying no, it's what you're unconsciously choosing to sacrifice saying no might feel uncomfortable upfront, but saying yes to everything comes at such a cost, and that cost is usually you start being intentional. Choose you on purpose. Okay, so I want to let you know why saying no is a leadership skill, and how it does support your career growth. All right, like saying yes to everything just doesn't make you a leader. It makes you exhausted, scattered and reactive. Leadership isn't about being available to everyone, it's about having the discernment to focus on what matters. It's knowing when to protect your time, how to push back with clarity and how to manage your energy like the limited resource. It is because saying no how you signal that like you're not just doing tasks, like you're making decisions. It's not that you're just contributing, you're also leading. But here's the truth, like, I'm sorry, the people who I see move up, they are the ones who can prioritize under pressure, set clear expectations and make trade offs that serve the bigger picture. This saying no is a leadership skill. If you're a yes person, would you also want a manager who's a yes person, probably not, because that work would likely slide to you. But also you want someone that's also going to be able to protect the team's time and energy. That is why it is a key leadership skill. And when you're doing that, even when you start really small, and you do the work to regulate that group, that guilt, you use some strategic scripts, and you build your boundaries like your career depends on it. Because I was doing I would say it does just what you're building a leadership skill that is really good. Okay, so to recap, saying yes all the time is typically coming from fear, people pleasing or trying to prove yourself not strategy, emotional regulation is key. You cannot say no confidently if your nervous system is still in people pleasing mode. All right, saying no isn't rude. It's how you play the corporate game and stop being seen as a yes machine, and saying no shows leadership. It proves that you can prioritize, protect your energy and think like a decision maker. Now, if any of what I'm talking about makes you feel like you want to vomit, I want to suggest a few episodes I recommend you listen to to help build this up, because anyone can repeat a script, but if you don't believe in yourself or feel safe, to back it up or. Or think it'll fall flat. Like it's not just about what you say confidence. It's also about trusting yourself enough to hold that boundary when it comes Oh, my God, when it counts. So here are some episode episodes that I recommend. One is how to feel confidently, confident instantly in a male dominated industry, if you know what you want to say, but like, maybe you panic when it's time to speak. So we go into that a little bit more what to do when you don't feel like a good fit for corporate this is when, like, boundaries feel like you're rejecting the whole system. And the next one is how to not change a thing about you and still be confident. AF. It's a reminder that you don't have to become someone else to say no. So a lot of this touches on some of the inner work we're talking about and owning yourself authentically. In short, saying no, it's a key skill. You need to learn how to do it. It is okay if you don't know how to do it right now, I was like that too. You will get better, but it is a strong leadership skill. Start small. No one talks about, I don't know why. No one tells people to just start small. It's literally exposure therapy. That is literally how I got over it for myself, I used to struggle with lunch breaks, so I started with 10 Minute, 20 minute, 30 minute. Like I started extending it out and proving to myself at sea, when I'm away from my desk for 30 minutes, nothing blows over and dies like the world hasn't completely destroyed itself. I believe in you. You can do this too. Listen to some of my earlier episodes if you think that, like, I don't know I'm special or something like that. Because I'm telling you right now I was exactly where you were not long, like in 2020, even before that, okay, I was burning the candle at both ends. Let me tell you, I am a whole new person. I feel like I've jumped a timeline, and I hate using those types of terms, but I do feel like my life is completely different than it was like five, six years ago. It is insane how much I have just changed by purely doing this coaching and inner work that I Yab on about all the time, you can do it for yourself, and if you want more help with that one, I always say, get on my email list. Okay, I give you some fantastic freaking tips. But also have a look at my corporate glow up program. That's my six month one on one coaching program link is in the show notes, and I have a whole page on more info about it, frequently asked questions, so you can see if it's a good fit for you. All right, I will see you in the next two weeks.