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Saying it outloud!
Saying it outloud!
EP 101: Dissecting Gym Myths, the Toxicity of Social Media, and the Dangers of Modern Trends in Health and Fitness
Ever stumbled into a gym and felt overwhelmed by the countless 'perfect' routines promising ridiculous gains? Well, we've been there, and we're pulling the plug on these misgivings. We dissect the misconceptions around these so-called 'optimal' exercises and size up their actual impact on our gains. But that's not all, we also share our latest cheat day saga featuring some undercooked chicken tenders and surprisingly tasty homemade apple fritters. We'd love to hear from you, too. What part of the fitness world is irking you right now?
Next, we thrust the spotlight onto the murky corners of social media. Reaction videos that seem to take pleasure in tearing others down? Check. Cherry-picking research papers to justify viewpoints? Check. Can't forget about the escalating toxicity on TikTok. We lay it all bare and call for a shift towards respectful discourse and a renewed focus on foundational strength. It's time to set the records straight in the fitness world.
We wrap up with a few unpalatable truths. 'Call-out culture' and 'normalizing everything' are trends that are more harmful than they appear. We advocate for self-improvement rather than settling for mediocrity. And let's not forget about the silent killers in our everyday foods and products. With age, our priorities shift but health and fitness should remain at the top. We leave you with a call to action: engage with our podcast, join our Facebook group and help us continue this essential dialogue. Let's bring about change, together.
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What's going on, everyone and welcome to Saying it Out Loud. A podcast created to help people who want to learn more about fitness and life. Our podcast will help you build a foundation and turn fitness into a lifestyle and help you conquer your life. I will be your host, leo, and my co-host.
Speaker 2:Stephanie, and we're the owners of a HALA athletics coaching business built on our belief that clients aren't just a dollar sign and they're female. Now on to the episode.
Speaker 1:What's going on everyone and welcome back to Saying it Out Loud hey for a live San Antonio, Texas, the best city in Texas. But, more importantly, last episode was our 100th episode and we didn't do anything special for that episode because we didn't realize it was a 100 episode until we were filming the 100 episode. So today, on our 101st episode, we're going to do what we should have did for the 100th episode a little special episode. Before we get to that, we got to talk about this cheat day, because this cheat day was fantastical. Why?
Speaker 2:Only breakfast. Why much, you ask yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, first of all, I made apple fritters best donuts to grace this earth.
Speaker 2:Are you actually the best apple fritter so far?
Speaker 1:I mean, no, sad there, we can just move on now. I also made some regular donuts, but I got a sweet recipe in a little bit because they weren't sweet enough for me. I don't know if they were sweet enough for you. So we got to tweak it, that's all. But the apple fritters fire. More importantly, more importantly, more importantly the apple fritter cheesecake Perfect.
Speaker 1:That's probably one of my best cheesecakes that I've ever made. So breakfast was good. Then we had the biscuits. Of course All was good. Then we went out to dinner. We went to good feather and golden feather Good feather Good feather Nothing feather.
Speaker 2:Not good.
Speaker 1:I liked the nachos, but her chicken tenders were undercooked.
Speaker 2:So we didn't know. I looked at it but I was honestly confused when we got there, because I have vegetarian options. So till this day, I mean, I read the reviews and it said it was chicken, not vegetarian, or vegan chicken.
Speaker 1:We don't know if it was real meat or not.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so confused, but I should say I wouldn't go back at all.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's pretty good. I liked it. I liked the nachos I had and the macaroni and cheese I had.
Speaker 2:But it's not worth going back to.
Speaker 1:But she just gets chicken tenders, so not worth going back to.
Speaker 2:I would go back. What the freak.
Speaker 1:It wasn't even the best way to say that.
Speaker 2:Bro, it doesn't matter, I like the nachos. It was one of the best nachos I've had since I've been here.
Speaker 1:Don't hate the play, I hate the gay. Anyways, I'm going to cool down and of course I got ice cream, so till you day phenomenal. Now let's get to this episode. Anything else.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:Let's get to this episode today. Question of the day what's your most hated thing in the fitness industry right now? Pretty sure you're thinking of a bunch of things going through your mind. Well, today we both have compiled a list of our top five things that we do not like currently in the fitness industry. Now these lists I made a list, she made a list, and we have not looked at each other's list, so we're going into this blind. So how's it going to work? I'm going to read something off of my list and we're going to see if she agrees, and then we're going to see if it's on her list.
Speaker 2:So just say I'll agree.
Speaker 1:Now our list may be identical. We're about to find out. Now, I don't put a specific order, I think just like all of them pretty much equally, and I wish they just would change. So we're going to dive right on into this, starting off with the first thing on my list. This is one thing that really gets my blood boiling. It's the freaking optimal crew. And on your list.
Speaker 2:Not really, because I knew that you're going to have an optimal crew.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you just knew.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So, before I dive into the reasons why I don't like them, do you agree with this?
Speaker 2:Yeah, of course.
Speaker 1:Okay. So the reason I don't like the optimal crew and it's not that you know doing the optimal exercises is a bad thing, it's how they present themselves that makes it. It makes it seem like the exercises they tell you to pick are the end all be all. I'm not saying all of them, but a lot of the ones I follow or see on social media are like this is the most optimal exercise. Any other exercise is not going to get you these gains and in the reality, is how much more percentage of gains is doing an optimal bicep curl going to get you compared to a, just a standard? You know the standard test of time bicep curl that people have been doing since bodybuilding has been a thing.
Speaker 2:We're not talking about good form versus bad form.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're talking about like the bicep curl.
Speaker 2:That's the OG. Bicep curl is still good form bicep curl.
Speaker 1:We're just talking about, like, for example, one of the people say if you put your arm against something and then you do a bicep curl, this is the most optimal way, because your arm needs to be braced in order for it to push optimal force through the bicep. The optimal angle In order to get the optimal contraction, in order to get optimal growth.
Speaker 2:I've seen some crazy stuff yeah that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1:So I'm like, okay, well, I've done none of that. So now I've been working out and I have 19 of charms. So how much yeah, no big. How much more percentage of gains am I really gonna get from doing an awful exercise? Or does it just bought out to doing Exercises that target the muscle correctly and just progressively overloaded them and probably do a form Over time and taking the muscle through the ranges of its roof and joining? Yeah, that's also part of their Holes. Thing now is that you don't need to take every muscle to the full range of motion. It's like you can do.
Speaker 1:Some muscle benefit better from short links on this benefit from long release. It's like you already just complicating fitness, bro. There's just be a time rocker to squat and grow my legs. Yeah, now can't do it.
Speaker 2:No, especially squat, and that's a forbidden movement. The optimal crew.
Speaker 1:And then they, they, they talk about all. You know. Machines beat everything. There's nothing better than the machine Because it provides you the most ability, it provides you the alternate force curves. It's just Machines over everything. If you're not doing machine, you're not gonna grow. But that's basically how they sound. No, I'm not saying that's what they're saying, but they're dope. Well, again there's other, but it's the segue to my next one, or maybe she hasn't. But they're like well, the research says. And then they go into the research has changed over the last decade multiple times and they just flip-flop. But yeah, that's my so are you?
Speaker 2:are you going into your?
Speaker 1:new Okay.
Speaker 2:Sounds good. So my number one is calories and versus calories. Okay, and honestly, like today solidifies that even more, but Calories and versus calories out is still a thing like. It's still Needed. It's still very much important within the fitness industry. However, the point that it's caught into and I'll blame bioventrallis is that he has treated it like there's nothing other than calories and versus calories. So meaning, if you are eating 100, 600 calories, whatever, and you are working out and you're still not losing weight, then that means that you're not tracking correctly.
Speaker 2:That means you're not in a deficit and yes, and that means they're not in a deficit. Wish, just insane, because I've had a lot of people that come to me at those numbers Overworking themselves. They're still not losing weight. And all they get told by people is like, yeah, you're just not pushing yourself hard enough, you're just not eating in a deficit, it's not deep Deposit, all this other stuff. What a reality.
Speaker 2:They're still forgetting that hormones Play apart a very huge part in all of this. You can only get so far before your body just literally just starts surviving and not thriving. Pretty much and Again, I'll always say this our body's goal is for us to be healthy and surviving. It's it's goal is not to look the most quote-unquote toned or Loose the most weight or whatever it is like. That's not their priority, unless you're overweight. That makes sense. But you have to understand that hormones play a role, gun health plays a role and if those things are not optimal, you're better off healing those things versus you trying to Cut into a deficit. Add more cardio, I'm more exercises and whatever Like. If your body's not responding, is that's a reason why? So it's a red flag. It's telling you what's going on it's just.
Speaker 1:It's just amazing me when I think that calories in first color, as a whole thing that matters. So when I hear them like, so what you're telling me is I could just eat zero calories and I can get to my weight that I want, I'm not eating anything.
Speaker 2:Okay, no, because those people are fast for so long and they're really lose weight.
Speaker 1:Exactly that's what I'm getting at, so I can't just eat zero, because if I eat zero then I'm for sure in a deficit. On top of my Working out that I've done so Now like a negative, like a big deficit and it's like, okay, well, so that was in weight. Why is that? Well, you can't say I'm not in the deficit because I'm not eating anything. Yeah, and there's people that still don't lose weight, because there are people that literally starve themselves and you can't even say that they're tracking around.
Speaker 2:I'm sure some people might be tracking wrong, but they're like if it's people like us, like we know we've been tracking for like forever, so we want to be tracking and still would be having the same thing.
Speaker 1:So it's just the laws want to play a part and you're gonna lose weight Initially, but then you're gonna stall. And if you saw that zero where you go from there?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Nowhere the freedom rave yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:All right, so Right along the lines of the optimal crew. Like I said, segue is the research crew. You got that one in a way okay, good, good, good.
Speaker 1:So the research crew now, just like the optimal crew. Research is important. I mean research is the reason why the advanced as far in humanity and just in general with technology and science period. I mean research is needed in order to get us to a bigger and brighter future and fitness and whatever we're doing in life.
Speaker 1:The problem I have with the research crew and it's they can even a bigger problem, since tick tock has become a thing is that these people will Read these research papers and think that they're an expert in the topic. Now, because they can read the research papers and they will interpret it how they think it is and then regard you, take it back to their audience and, of course, their audience is all these people that love them and will hinge on everywhere they say so. Now they start regurgitating it. Now they're flocking other people's pages and you're doing this wrong, you're doing that wrong. The resources is research. Is that when in reality, they didn't read the research paper and they heard it from a person.
Speaker 1:I read the research paper. So that's a telephone game to the point where now everything is so deluded as you don't even know. Okay, what, what? What was the research to begin with. So Another problem I have with the research crew is that research changes constantly and lately here's been at a rapid pace and They'll come out with what. As soon as a new study drops, they'll read it and Like those, switch to the whole entire Mindset around what they believe originally to the new research.
Speaker 1:And the new researchers came out and the study could be like oh yeah, the study was on 20 people. And they're like yeah, this is a new way to do it. Study says that squat sucks, so don't squat, don't use a barbell. And it's like bro. Like okay, for example, people have been squatting for hundreds of years. Yeah, like you're literally doing this as an infant when you're squatting.
Speaker 1:And now the new research drops into like okay, squatting is not good for you, so people just stop squatting. It's like, well, it's gotten you to where you are now. So, just because now, all of a sudden, they're saying it's bad for you, you're just going to stop doing it. So that's my problem with them is they'll come to a dead stop and like, yeah, I don't want to move this anymore, new research shows this. And now they're regurgitating it. And then, literally like a month later, new research about the same topic come out saying the previous research was wrong. And now this is the new research. But new research came out, this is now the thing. Squats back in. It's like, bro, yeah, yeah, stop.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean that's the way it's going to work, like the similar one, but it's like more of like the people that do reaction videos. I get it You're trying to educate people and you're trying to get clients Awesome but these people take it too far and it's honestly annoying because one is just making people just mindless zombies that would literally just follow one person or get all their information and like not even think for themselves Exactly what they say is gospel, but at the same time they're just like spending so much energy trying to bring down other people for literally no reason, like there's this one guy.
Speaker 1:Is this your?
Speaker 2:Yeah, his girlfriend literally dedicates herself to this shit. I don't like it. But he does the same thing and like if someone looks good, and whatever if they're in steroids or not, they, he writes to their workout videos and say yeah, no, that's not how you do it, or whatever, and goes ahead and does some research Is this whatever, emg, whatever? And again, it really depends on people and their anatomy and their mobility and their progress and just so many things for you to program certain movements and I don't feel like you should spend like your whole career just doing all these videos and reacting and then bringing your minions into other people's comments and it's just too much. So much is there's a lot of things are just constantly changing.
Speaker 2:My he was saying that like, for example, the end videos, research papers, like one is done, select few people, cool, you're not taking into account a lot of things.
Speaker 2:So, like you're not taking into account the person's mobility restrictions, like their lifestyle in general, like are they cemetery? All this other stuff, because that can influence drastically what muscles are taking over versus not, and because that those studies are based on like what muscles activating per muscle, like per movement, then you can't say like, this is the movement that you should be doing instead of squats, when, in reality, for some people, you could actually be not hurting them, but like leaving a lot of gains and a lot of strength in the tank because you're not going for like squat bench and that lived. I, for one, will always preach on those movements because it's so important. It's very foundational and if you're going to build strength and you're going to need strength, I feel like even though you're part of, like the bodybuilding crew, you still need to build strength, and there's only so much strength you can do when you max out at 100 pound on bills.
Speaker 1:So what was this with you?
Speaker 2:Like the reaction videos call out call out crew.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's the biggest issue. The biggest issue is they built their whole entire career tearing down other people based off of research that they have interpreted on their own. Now, I'm not saying that the research is wrong. I'm not saying to researchers necessarily right because, like I said, researchers always constantly changing. So they're literally reading this research, attacking somebody, but then, like I said, the next month the research you come out and just prove this research paper and at the same time, well, anybody can cherry pick a research paper. For every one research paper that says that this is right, there's one that's going against it. So you can't just build your whole entire career attacking other people based off of research that you read and that you interpret at your own way. You're not the doctors. So unless you have the direct interpretation from the doctors themselves, then you can't just be like, well, this is what I think.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and still, you shouldn't be attacking other people. What you should be doing as a professional is putting out your opinion and how you feel about it and letting people decide on their own if they want to believe you or if they want to believe this other person. You don't need to attack them, and that's why especially TikTok has become so toxic. But this whole call out culture and the fitness and the shit yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm not even going to get into the freaking with the women are doing to the guys on the job. If they get caught looking at a more freaking guy, I'm sure they'll have seen it, and then they just go out of their way to call people out to get cloud. Like, okay, like, at the end of the day, what does followers get you? Like, they're just people that don't even know you. I mean, is money like, is you doing it for money? Like, what are you? What are you doing? It's for?
Speaker 1:Like most people originally intended to help other people and then they've grown into monsters and they're not giving back. Like their call out videos are not educational. You yelling and tearing down somebody else, telling them that they're wrong, that this is the right way. It's not helping them by. You're not teaching me anything. I'm not coming there to actually learn from you. I'm coming there to watch you tear down other people. That's what they're there for. They're there for the drama. Then they ain't there to learn from you. So, like, what are you really doing other than building a community of people that are going to go attack people? Because when a video comes out, they're going to tag you in it, so you see it and then you're going to make a video attacking that person. Yeah, they don't, they don't, they don't. They don't come to you for your smarts, they don't come to you for your freaking education. So then in a day, man, you're just reading, you're just building a toxic community. Say like, you have 500,000 followers. These 500,000 followers are willing to attack other people because of your videos and how they've been brainwashed by you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, anyways, let me see what that was. Yeah, I just went over that. That was my next one. Okay, this one, this one's pretty high for me, because this one really bothers me. The normalize everything crew. These people want to normalize everything, like you could no longer do no wrong because everything is normalized. So, for example, the whole trend, whatever, like bodies that look like this, also look like this. When I see videos like that, I automatically, automatically, instantly assume you're insecure about your body and that's why you're doing it, because now you need validation from other people to say yeah.
Speaker 1:You go slay girl. Oh my god, you look so beautiful, like that's what you're looking for, because why else would you do it like? It originally probably started out as a, as a trend of people wanting to show the difference between reality and social media. That's how I originally started, and with a good intentions, it's like, but now it has molded into normalizing literally Everything people editing their cell light to make it look like they have more cell light, for them to have these bodies that look like this.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:It's got to a super extreme Point, to where now you're building a community of people who don't want to try, don't need to try anymore, like everything's normal. So you don't need to try to get better, you don't need to try to prove yourself, because everybody's oh no, you're fine, you're okay the way you are. You're a beautiful human being, just how you are. You don't need to change. Like what the freak is that, bro? So we just stay, ingrid, stay dumb, stay freakin fat as hell. Don't improve our health, don't improve our freaking brain, don't become a better human being. We just normalize being freaking done. That's what's happening.
Speaker 1:So instead of them normalizing the fact that you need to improve upon yourself because, mother figure, I guarantee you a none of y'all Good right now with yourselves, to where you are you want to get better in some aspect of life, but it's hard, it's scary. So instead of actually pursuing it, you're like oh, it's no one to be afraid of doing things. You don't have to do anything because you're perfect the way you are. You're not, because if everybody's perfect the way they are, we would have no problems dating. We had no problems in relationships. We had no problems get job. We have no problem working out. We have no problems freaking, seeing the progress and agenda we want to see. We have no problem with anything. But since we're not perfect, because we are human beings and we all you know, act differently, have different personalities In order to become a better human being, what do you have to do? You have to improve.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, my next one the does. Those makes the poison. Oh yeah, so you probably heard from the evidence-based group, because usually the same people especially battling when they talk about a certain ingredient, for example carobine.
Speaker 1:Whatever you pronounce, that mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:Which is a no cancer ingredient and it's in a lot of food. They say that those makes a poison, meaning you know, if you have Whipping the house it, then you're gonna be fine, I'm gonna get cancer. The problem with that is that they think that you have to consume like an obscene amount of carobine to get the cancer.
Speaker 1:Now, you would normally.
Speaker 2:Yes, except the fact that it's almost in everything. Corn is literally in everything. Fake dyes, fake sugars are literally in everything. So, next thing, you know literally everything that you're consuming and you have in your environment and that you are cleaning with, and also your water is Adding to that toxic load, and that's something that they don't believe in and you, you can see the difference and people and their health as well. And when they start limiting all these things and how one their body changes to their Food palette, like our food palette, like we can, completely different. There's so many restaurants that we used to like that.
Speaker 2:We can't even like stand it now it's crazy. We've we've literally reduced our toxic load so much that it makes a huge difference and also, like, overall, our physique and how we respond to things too. So I'm not saying and we've talked about this before I'm not saying to be a little talk, like no talks whatsoever, because that's honestly impossible. It's like literally impossible.
Speaker 2:You'd have to move to, like this impossible a new island or something like that, but we have. You want to be low talks? So for us, like, the most toxic things that we're exposed to is cheat day. Other than that, we rarely do anything that has like fake ingredients and stuff like that, and that's honestly the point of it is to reduce the map because these ingredients have been known to cause all these issues but because evidence one is not. So it's almost funny because evidence Within training it's like a small percent of people and they like take it to like it's gospel when it comes to these things. They don't really take it like this gospel. It's like, oh, it's a small research, it's, it's done in mice as well as other sorts of stuff, and almost like it doesn't count pretty much when we seen it happen. So I just yeah, it's just.
Speaker 1:It's interesting to me because these same people that preach that, oh, you don't have to worry about ingredients. You're just what's the orthorexia? What they're actually. You're just fear among the ingredients, and okay, sure you can say that. But where does cancer come from you? I promise you You're not gonna just randomly get cancer. Cancer is caused by something. Now, for example, you have red, 40 red, 3, yellow, 5 blue All these synthetic dyes that are the carcinogenics. They're in all these freaking Pre-workouts and the freaking proteins and freaking food and their food everywhere so really like everywhere.
Speaker 2:It's insane.
Speaker 1:So when you're like Intaking all these things or your, you know, get high fruit toast, corn syrup or freaking Seed oils that are in everything as well, and it's like oh, the dose makes the poison Okay. Ten years later, after the stuff has compounded because your body couldn't detox it properly, they say you know, that's what you got cancer.
Speaker 1:So it's not gonna happen to you instantly. You're not gonna go eat some Skittles and get cancer instantly, it's gonna build, build and that. So how's it builds which. What are you doing? You're chronically dying, stretching your body out, going through all these hip classes, you're freaking, doing hours and hours of cardio, you're drinking, maybe, you're smoking tobacco, you're not sleeping. So your body, your body's threshold it used to be okay, I can manage this. As you get older, the damage you're doing outweighs your body's ability to recover. So now you compile everything on top of the fact. So your immune system is freaking aryos.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it's what a genetic component to that too as to like how much Load you can handle, that makes sense, but you can't really visibly see when you're at yeah, you can't visit that's why you just want to make sure that your actual toxics possible, so you don't have that issue anyways.
Speaker 1:You're done. You talked about two look really so you're done. Okay, well, I have to, you have to know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you said five, okay, I'm lying. Cheap coaching Wish again, we've talked about it, but again is still annoying to me. Listen, I get you know, there's the common, budget-wise and whatever, but I don't think a lot of people understand that when you go with cheap coaches One, they might not have the best experience. To them, being a cheap coach means that they have a lot of people on the roster, almost to the point that you are just one number and You're kind of a machine pretty much the same why your workouts are gonna be copy-paste from someone else.
Speaker 2:Your nutrition is gonna be copy-paste from someone else. You're lucky if you get a check-ins. And you get check-ins is probably much gonna be the same thing. It's not gonna be like face-on check-ins. It's not gonna be like everything individual, less to you and Also a lot of it a patient backing everything as well. So you need to understand that Health fitness in general should be a priority. I'll always say this it really does not matter when you're at in life, it should always be a priority.
Speaker 1:I got 70 year old client. Yeah, the 54 year old client.
Speaker 2:Yeah, really, again, it doesn't matter, and I feel like a lot of people wait until it's too late and then they're just frustrated or they kind of just want to hop on these trends of like the fitness, the cheaper coaching, the apps and everything like that, and barely they just come on just spinning the wheels pretty much. So it seems like absurd when they like here and an actual investment amount. But I mean, the things that we provide are actually the reason why also, we don't we're not taking hundreds of clients at one time either.
Speaker 2:I would literally die because of how much an individual attention I gave my clients. So you have to understand that it comes at a price and the reality is, even though you might think you're super advanced and you barely need all these things, and that's why she pushing my reward for you I have people that have been doing this for 20 plus years and she's pushing did not work for them whatsoever. So, yes, it's an investment, but there's a reason for that.
Speaker 1:The biggest thing is okay. In life, there's gonna come a time and place where you have to make a sacrifice in order to get somewhere else, to where you wanna be. People like to say that grass is green on the other side, which I like to say that grass is green where I water it so you might see sheep coaching, and that grass is bright green, boy, like, looking like turf. You know what I'm going over here? Motherfakers, see you later. And guess what happens? If you don't water that grass? It dies.
Speaker 1:So instead of this freaking jump in the fence into a new yard, just water it when you already have. If you're not pouring into yourself one, you're not gonna be able to help anybody else. Two, you're not gonna be able to help yourself. And if you can't help yourself, what makes you think somebody else is gonna come and help you? So you need to think about yourself in these situations. Now, sheep coaching is usually not good, like nine times out of 10. On the flip side, expensive coaching is not always good either. But the difference is are you actually looking at the coaches? That's the difference. That's what matters the most. And the issue with sheep coaching, like she said, is that these coaches and they are burning themselves out because they have so many clients. People want to talk about energy nowadays and everybody understands how much energy they can expand before they're mentally freaking smoked.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you have to understand like, yeah, the same thing that you perceive like when you have a budget analysis that they have expensive, like these coaches have a life too, they have expensive as well. So, like sure they're charging super cheaps. They have to take so many clients to try and make it as a living, or instead they can charge an investment amount, take less clients and actually make more of an impact and still not burn themselves out like that they would be.
Speaker 1:And that's the thing it's all about helping people Like that's the whole point of coaching and out of the 100 clients that they might take, how many of those people do you actually think are seeing the progress they want to see? That's why I have another issue with these subscriptions. Sign up for my nutrition and macro or nutrition and training program for a 1999 and a month and you get like a monthly check-in call. It's like well, you're not getting the actual guidance you need. Now I can understand if you were just somebody who wants to go through the motions and pretend like you want to be in the gym just to say you're in the gym and you $20, but out though I will wipe my butt with $20. That's how unimportant it is to me. That's not an investment. That's me lollying, gagging around and probably not even gonna do the workouts 99% of the time. I just have it there as a. I feel better about myself and that's the issue.
Speaker 1:That's what they're watching, remember, I know and that's the issue with not actually making an investment. That's why coaches who know their worth and actually have proven their worth are gonna charge you more, because they have more to give back and they know they can make an impact on your life if you actually put forth the effort Once again it's not about the price. It's about the coaches.
Speaker 2:Okay, last one Supplements are a necessary crew. So, mind you, I use super easy supplements in a way, but I also thought supplements are supplements and that's it. However, my view has drastically changed since I became a functional medicine coach, because supplements are literally super necessary. Now that does not mean the supplements alone are gonna fix your issues, because I see it happen all the time when people just go through like a PCOS page, they see the newest like whatever post about take this supplement for whatever and they take it when in reality they're not doing everything else to heal. So supplements are very necessary whenever, in any stage.
Speaker 2:In a way like if you're a beginner, even though you're eating wonderful, healthy, our foods nowadays rarely have any nutrients so you're still gonna have to have a high quality multivitamin Emphasis on the high quality multivitamin, because we literally went to CVS the other day to look at we were looking for the pharmacy or you're just seeing the supplements and stuff in there and you are getting fillers. You're not getting anything else from those supplements. Yes, they're cheap. That's pretty much the reason why, just like coaching. So it's important. Now, when you get into more like specifics, functional side of things, I guess even more important because, even though we are supplementing with like specific nutrition depending on the phase of the protocol that you're at and also your workout, we need supplements to give that extra percent Just like people, doctors do with medications is that medication actually doesn't help you heal. Supplements will help you heal, so they are necessary and even though people say supplements are just, you know, excess, whatever you don't have to take it. The more you learn, the more important you understand that it is for you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just like my view drastically changed. I would do a big fan of supplements, but I realized the importance of supplements before. I used to just take them because somebody told me hey, take this, try this, this will help us. Now I actually understand the mechanism behind how the supplements actually work and how they assist in the lifestyle and mindset changes. Okay, you can't just do one or the other. You need to change your lifestyle in order for the supplements to actually impact you. Because you continue the same lifestyle and I got you to where you're at. You're just wasting money. You're pissing those supplements down the drain. So I understand.
Speaker 1:We're not talking about fat burners and test boosters here. Okay, we're talking about quality supplements that are gonna help support your body Through whatever phase you're going through or whatever protocol you're going through to get your body back in balance. Yep, so it's important to understand that there's a place for every day in the fitness world in the toolbox that coaches have, and I don't think there's any day where I could say that, okay, that's never needed. Somewhere down the line in your fitness journey, you're probably gonna need something that we talked about today and it's okay to understand that. Hey, I need this. Ask somebody I don't know like a good coach like us hey, how does this work? Or why do I need this, or what do I need to do with this in order to move forward, and then we will gladly help you out.
Speaker 2:Yep.
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