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Car Chronicles EP8: Love Needs Honest Boundaries Or It Starves

Leonardo&Stephanie Season 1 Episode 8

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A simple morning drive and a sweet Valentine’s anecdote set the stage for a spicier truth: attraction brings us together, but standards keep us together. After a viral reel about vows and self-induced “sickness” lit up the comments, we dig past the outrage to ask what truly sustains long-term love. Is it cruel to expect your partner to maintain the lifestyle that drew you in, or is that clarity the only way intimacy survives?

We unpack the difference between debate and attack, and why ad hominem insults signal unhealed trauma more than persuasive thinking. Then we go straight at the core argument: when a relationship is built on shared activity, energy, and health, drastic avoidable changes don’t just alter a look—they rewrite the life. Lose attraction and intimacy falters; lose intimacy and the partnership drifts into resentment, detachment, or cheating. That descent isn’t sudden; it’s years of calorie surplus, ignored conversations, and missed chances to course-correct. Boundaries, stated early and calmly, become love’s last honest lifeline.

We also tackle cultural double standards: why filtering by height gets a pass while standards around weight spark fury, even though one can’t change and the other often can. Body positivity matters, but it shouldn’t erase reality—health shapes mood, mobility, and the experiences a couple can share. We question whether dating apps help or harm this landscape, describing how desperation loops and unhealed baggage create churn instead of connection. The antidote is old-school and effective: self-work that boosts emotional intelligence, a fitness routine that raises your baseline, and clear standards you live by rather than shop for.

If you care about building a relationship that stays attractive, active, and honest, this one’s for you. Listen, reflect, and then tell us: what are your non-negotiables, and how do you protect them with love? Subscribe, share with a friend who needs the nudge, and leave a review with your top takeaway so we can keep raising the bar together.

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Morning Drive And School Stories

SPEAKER_01

Yes, sir. Know what that means. Back on the road. Rather early morning Thursday. Headed to the church. Looking forward to the interactions there every day, bro. It's just so random. You just never know what the freak kids are gonna do, dude. And that's one of the reasons why I don't like the mother figures. Because they're unpredictable. But yeah. Had a good Valentine's Day party with them. Cheesecakes were hit. They had two raspberry, one Oreo. They killed all of it except for like two pieces. So I took me a piece home of each. And it was a good time, man. Just like I said, kids being kids and them passing out Valentines and just actually doing the tradition. It's cool to see. Because I remember when I was in school and doing Valentines, I never got no Valentines. But this episode today is brought to you by a reel I made. So I posted a reel. And it said what did it say? I made a vow in sickness and in health. But doesn't include self-induced sickness. So if you get fat, I'm out. That's what it said. There's a few people that did not like it, and they left their comments. And I'll let you guys know that if you are not, if you do not hold the mental capacity to scroll past a video that you do not agree with without leaving a comment, you are having a trauma response. And you leave a negative comment. There's a difference between having a debate about it and attacking. Okay? That's the difference I talk about in between people being able to react and act. Coming out and attacking my looks and calling me ugly and that my wife deserves better is a reaction. That is a traumatic response to something that happened to her. And she's taking it out on me. The irony is she works out. So this is why I don't even engage. Like all I said that she has some unhealed trauma that she needs to work through. And her opinion on my looks doesn't matter because I'm already married. And my wife thinks I look good, so it doesn't matter what she says. Like I don't attack back when it's a person who reacts because there's no reason. They don't have the mental acuity to actually have a good faith debate about the topic. But instead, one of the people commented and said, yes, as long as you have the conversation about it, and that's what you guys agree to, then you're good to go. Now he's attacking me, but he's not attacking me. He's attacking the argument. Basically saying that I agree with you to an extent. And that's how you should be having those conversations. But and that's what this episode is going to be about because I think a lot of people don't. I think a lot of people are too overwhelmingly emotional when it comes to things like this. And you need to have a little bit of logic sprinkled in with the emotion, or the emotion is just gonna consume you and cause you to react in situations like she did.

SPEAKER_00

And what do I mean by having a little bit of logic? Well, we want to look at the situation, okay.

Intimacy, Weight Gain, And Consequences

Double Standards And Body Positivity

Health, Lifestyle, And Shared Activities

Boundaries, Pleas, And When To Leave

Settling, Standards, And Why Relationships Implode

SPEAKER_01

What is wrong, first of all, with me saying what I said. Is there actually anything wrong with what I said? If I met my wife, which is this is a true story, okay. When I met my wife, my wife was freaking lean asshole. Vascularity, she was freaking, she had just came like two years, I want to say uh maybe a year or two post-show. And she was still like lean and built. And so the initial attraction was to that, the way she looked. The relationship starts with an initial attraction to the person. Okay, and you won't even have to worry about getting anywhere else if you don't find the person attractive. And I'm gonna touch on that too, about these people who get in relationships with uh ugly people. Okay, hold on, I'm gonna touch on that because I got a story about that too. And so when I first met her, like I was saying, she built, she looked good. She had her hair the way I like women that wear their hair. She had a braid. And she worked out, I could clearly tell. And that was the lifestyle that I was currently living. And that's the lifestyle I wanted my spouse to be living. So when I saw her, I was like, oh man, the stars are aligning. I said, this is it. Okay, so logically, this is with logic here, okay. Logically speaking, if she were to go and gain 80 pounds, what do you think is going to happen? I'm obviously no longer going to be attracted to her physically. And when you are physically no longer attracted to somebody, the intimacy in the relationship dies. And once the intimacy in the relationship dies, the relationship is over. There is no recovering that. Because relationships depend on intimacy. If you are disgusted every time you look at your spouse, then you're not going to ever want to do anything, be around them, touch them, and ultimately it's going to lead to the relationship dying. And then there are people that stay in those relationships and just cheat. So that's that's a logical look at what I'm talking about, okay? And that's a standard. The standard was set when I met her because that's what I was attracted to. And so I need her to maintain that standard of looking good. And there was a lot of people in another video I watched similar to mine, the one I got the inspiration from. And I think I think his video was Would You Date Me If I Was Fat? And he said no. Or something, it was something along those lines. And he got 1.2 million views, and people were just in his comment section, and I was just reading through the comments, as I normally do, just because I like to see how people, bro, how people think fascinates me. It really does. I just be reading the comments. I'd be like, how did you arrive to this thought? But people were mad saying that, oh, I hope this love never finds me and stuff like that. And I'm like, so I hate to use the comparison, but it's okay for women to literally isolate men solely based on their height, which they can't change, but it's not okay for men to isolate women based on their weight, which they can change. Am I tracking that correctly? So it's okay for a woman to have a standard, but it's not okay for a men to have a standard. But see, and it wouldn't be such a big issue if society didn't put weight in the limelight. Okay? There's a whole movement, the body positivity movement, a whole movement based on stuff. And I I think that's how the issue gets exacerbated. In reality, there are healthy weights for every single last age group. And if I say that I don't want my wife right now, currently, who is five five, to be two hundred and ten pounds, I think that's a pretty logical standard. Because she would be mormily obese. She would be literally setting herself up for diseases that will expedite her lifespan on this planet and send her into an early expiration date. So these people will sit here and whine and moan and complain, but we have to, like I said, sprinkle in the logic here, okay? You said you love this person and you want to spend the rest of your time with this person and you want to be with them forever and ever until death do us part. So why on earth would the one thing that you have power over, which is your weight, would you eat yourself into a state that is going to cut your lifespan? It's going to literally drain your energy. It's gonna it's gonna make you feel like crap. You're not gonna want to do anything because of just your your cardiovascular capacity to you know walk is impaired, to go upstairs is impaired, to bend over is impaired, just to do simple everyday tasks is impaired. So if you want to do less and you want to move less, how is that fair to your partner who maintained their self and you know, maybe wants to go to Universal and walk around and do all the stuff. Maybe wants to go to Disney. I don't freaking know and do all the stuff. Maybe your partner loved going on hikes, and you guys loved going on hikes when when you first got together, and now you've let yourself go, and now you can't go on hikes anymore. So he has to go solo hiking. These are just random examples, but what I'm saying is because you fell beneath the standard that your spouse had for you, why should he be obligated, or she be obligated, to stay? It's kind of like the unspoken rules, but this one should be talked about. And I just don't, and I I don't I don't think it's fair to say, hey, when I met you, you were 130 pounds, shredded, muscular, strong, and we've been together now, married six years, and now you're 210 pounds and can't do anything that we used to do together. But I should feel I should be obligated to stay. Here's the thing, though, you don't gain weight overnight. It's a const you have to consistently be in a state of a calorie surplus over a certain amount of time. So you have been experiencing the decline for years, and if I've been pleading with you saying, hey, babe, you know, you you're gaining some weight, can you can we like can you go back to the gym? Can you start working out again? And I'm doing that over that a course of time, and you just ignore my pleas, and you just keep going a course, what at what point is it okay for me to no longer be in a relationship with you? Does that make sense? Because there has to come a time where my feelings need to take center stage, and if you're just ignoring them because you don't want to go back to the gym, you don't want to work out. You're literally saying that you don't care about how I feel, and I know people will be like, oh, it's her body. Okay, exactly. And that's what I'm saying. Okay, your body, you do what you want. I'm letting you know right now that I'm no longer attracted to you. I don't want to have sex with you, I don't want to kiss you, I don't want to touch you, I don't want anything, I don't want to be seen with you because of how you look. I'm letting you know that right now, and that if you don't change, then I'm leading. And I will find somebody else who meets my standard. Oh, then people will be all emotional about that. And if you flip the around to the other person to where it was a woman in that situation, nobody would ever have a problem with it. But because there's a guy saying it about a woman, everybody has a problem with it. It's it it's regardless of male or female, it's a standard. And if this is why people's relationships implode, because they don't have standards. And when I was working one of my jobs there, I was talking to her, and she was telling me about her husband. And when she first met him, he was not attractive at all. She was talking about how he's balding and how he looked. She just like, he just wasn't attractive. I was like, well, how the frick did y'all end up together? She's like, he was just persistent. He kept trying. So I was like, uh, I'll just give him a chance. I'll tell you right now. That is not how you get into a relationship that lasts. And that relationship did not last. He cheated on her with another chick. And it is just so crazy, bro. That not only was this mother freaker, you're saying he's busted, and that you were, you know, basically she settled for him, and then he still went out, and she didn't even want another chick. And she caught him cheating because he said he he said he was working in a certain place, and then she had checked the address to see where he was working at, and he had sent flowers to that address while he was working, and obviously she was home, and then come to find out she found the chick, and they talked, and it's just like all all over somebody that you don't you don't even find attractive. You do you understand what I'm saying? So this is why the initial attractions play such a huge role in being with someone because it's that it's that attraction that brings the intimacy. All these people want to say, oh, they're they're their personality, they're so cool, they're smart. None of that matters. None of that matters on the initial looks. When you initially see somebody, what is the first thing that you see? It ain't their smarts, it ain't their personality, it's how they look. Then once you approach and talk to this person, then you'll got to you'll start to get to see their personality. Then you'll get to see they're if they're intelligent or not. You can just judgment call, be like, wow, this person is a freaking box of rocks. I'm good. Or this person seems very intelligent, then you then you then you continue on with the next phase. But that's why I'm saying people's relationships infloat because they don't have standards. Y'all y'all are so desperate to get somebody that you're willing to lower your standards to the ground just because you're you don't want to be alone. And so those you'll stay with somebody for the sake of just having somebody, just to have somebody not because this person offers any value to your life other than you're not being alone. That's why you get hurt so many times, because these people are just nobodies, and you keep getting with them because the last one hurt you, you leave that one, and instead of learning from what you did, you get with the next one, and now you then you lower your standards even more, and then you continue to lower your standards until you find somebody to settle for. Instead, what you should be doing is setting standards and then and then not looking. For somebody who meets those standards, okay? I don't know why I have to keep saying this specifically, but you you're not looking for somebody who meets your standards. What you're doing is setting standards, and then when you interact with people, just spending your every day-to-day life, you'll now know if you're willing to give somebody a shot based on your standards. So you don't just set standards and then go out into the world and just look. You set standards and then you live your everyday life. And then when you happen upon an interaction, you have those standards as a checklist now. It's the desperation of searching for people that's causing you guys to have mental breakdowns. I see it all the time on TikTok when people are like, oh, I'm 30 and the walls are closing in, I can't find nobody, there's no good men left anymore. And I was like, oh no, there is. There is. The issue is your standards. The issue is you're looking. Do you really think what are the odds that you're gonna find your dream man on hinge, Tinder? Do you think the people who are emotionally mature are on hinge and Tinder? Do you think they're investing their energy into chronic dating? You think that's what they're doing? Or do you think maybe they are working their careers, working on their dreams, you know, working in their small business? These people are not wasting their energy investing it into dating apps. That is a negative feedback for energy. Because you you don't you might as well play the lottery because you don't know. Yeah, some of these chicks, some of these dudes that you're gonna swipe across, oh, are attractive. But bro, it's like a a charming, a trauma bonding center, and everybody's on there out of desperation.

SPEAKER_00

Because everybody on there doesn't want to be alone.

SPEAKER_01

Why else would you be on a dating app? You're clearly looking for somebody, which means you don't want to be alone, and it's just reeks of desperation. Can you imagine? Can you imagine making a dating profile, posting it? And it's basically like Bro, it's almost just like buying a slave, and people are just swiping through the best look you want, and then they land on you. I'll buy this one. That's basically what it feels like. You're a slave to society, and they can just come and go as they please. And use you and abuse you as they please. These dudes on here just swiping through these girls, just to freaking link up. These chicks on here just swiping through these dudes, looking for somebody to pay for their next meal. And so the ones who are actually looking for true love are the ones that get shafted. So, do you really think that they're on there, on these apps, trying to find true love? No, they're not. Get off of dating apps, dude. Just like everything else in America, it's a money grab. They just want you to spend money on the on the apps. I don't even I don't even know how to I don't even know how these apps operate other than what I've heard. But I guess you like spend money on like super likes to like super like somebody, whatever the freak that means. And and it's just why are you putting your time into that? You could be putting investing your time into making yourself more appealing if you hop on the dating app in your current form, like I keep talking about baggage, you're literally hopping on a dating app with all your baggage. So, what do you think is gonna happen when you get in a relationship? Do you think that's gonna be happily ever after? Or is that gonna be mother freaking trash day? And this person's gonna have to sift through all your trash. It's gonna be trash day. Just because you met through an app doesn't take away all your trauma that you've been through. In fact, it ensures that you're 99% positively going to meet somebody else that's been through a lot of trauma.

SPEAKER_00

And then the whole thing is gonna steamroll into a trash day where you guys are just playing in each other's trash.

Dating Apps, Desperation, And Cycles

SPEAKER_01

Then you'll break up, then you'll get then you'll what you'll you'll get together, delete the apps, things will get rocky. One of the persons will download the apps again, or both, and then start looking. As soon as the relationship gets rocky, they'll say, We this is not gonna work, we'll break up, but get with the next one. We'll redo the whole cycle. You ever wonder how many people have been with the same person you've been with on Tinder, or Hinge, or Bumble? Just recycle, reuse. Instead, what you should be doing is working on yourself, become appealing enough that you one, when you become emotionally intelligent, it's almost like you have like an invisible barrier. And it it blocks, I'm telling you this, bro. It blocks stupid people. I've seen this first hand, bro. Okay I've seen this first hand. People will have a conversation with you, and they will realize how differently you carry yourself, and then they will no longer want to converse with you because they don't know how. I've seen it firsthand, and then when you work on your body physically, okay, physically you look appealing, that is also a freaking barrier. I can't tell you how many times people have seen us in the gym, my wife and I. Alright. We never we don't we don't talk to anybody unless we have to ask them if they're using this. Okay? We don't go out our way to talk to anybody. When we first got the fitness connection, we knew nobody. We just went in there, worked out. But then there would be times where people would we we we we would end up in some type of conversation with somebody. Like one of the guys we know now, he's like, man, what you guys were intimidating. That's why I never wanted to talk to y'all because y'all just come in here, you do your workout, and you just leave. I can't tell you how many times we've heard that. But that's because when we're in the gym, we have a s we have a serious face. I mean.