It’s a shitshow. You’re bleeding. Everything’s fine.

Join host Kat Garcia as she sits down with her platonic life partner, Ellie Jones, for a candid and lighthearted conversation. In this episode, Kat and Ellie ramble, chitchat, and dive into the quirks of their friendship, sharing stories, laughter, and honest reflections. Whether they're discussing life’s little moments or exploring deeper topics, their chemistry and humor shine through. Tune in for an episode that feels like catching up with old friends—full of warmth, wit, and genuine connection. 

Transcript

0:02

Greetings and salutations. Welcome to, sorry. That's my inside voice. I'm your host, cat Garcia, and in this episode I get to sit down and talk with my platonic life partner, Ellie Jones. We kind of ramble, we kind of chitchat. We talk about ling, we talk about wine, we talk about firefighting. We talk about lighting shit on fire. It's a very exciting episode. Enjoy.

Kat Garcia 0:30

Are you all

Ellie Jones 0:31

clipped? I am clipped.

Kat Garcia 0:33

Yay. Can you hear me? Yes. Testing. Testing. Yes. It's picking up your voice. Awesome. Do you wanna introduce yourself? What

Ellie Jones 0:41

do I say?

Kat Garcia 0:42

What would you like to say? Who are you? Oh,

Ellie Jones 0:44

my name is Ellie Jones and I'm your Platonic

Kat Garcia 0:49

life partner. Yeah, you, you are my platonic life partner. And I'm yours, correct? Um,

Ellie Jones 0:56

we've been best friends for gosh long time that I'm not old enough, but I have friends that long. How often? I'm shy about my age. I'm just saying at a certain point, don't. We don't need to. It's just been long enough.

Kat Garcia 1:10

It's, it's been long enough that it feels like we were, we've been together longer than we were apart. Hmm. There you go.

Ellie Jones 1:16

There you go.

Kat Garcia 1:17

Um, we've outlast our friendship has outlasted all of our marriages. Uh, that's

Ellie Jones 1:22

so

Kat Garcia 1:22

morbid. I mean, it's the longest relationship I've ever had.

Ellie Jones 1:27

I know. It's still, um,

Kat Garcia 1:29

you know.

Ellie Jones 1:29

Yeah.

Kat Garcia 1:30

Um. We have a good time.

Ellie Jones 1:33

Yes, we do. We play a lot of games. Play a lot of games. Lots of card games. Mm-hmm. We're, uh, we're

Kat Garcia 1:39

game humans.

Ellie Jones 1:40

Yeah. And board games. Love of 'em. What games? Some of 'em, you know. Yeah.

Kat Garcia 1:44

We, uh, we love settlers.

Ellie Jones 1:45

Yeah. I'm not gonna play Monopoly with anyone.

Kat Garcia 1:48

No, that's, I don't like it. I, I don't really play Monopoly or

Ellie Jones 1:50

Life. I played that. I'm over it

Kat Garcia 1:52

all. All I like are like the little mini figures, like people get excited about the Lego Mini figs and I like those. But like the Star Wars monopoly pieces, those are cool.

Ellie Jones 2:04

No.

Kat Garcia 2:05

Not for me. I mean, I'm not gonna play

Ellie Jones 2:07

it. I have it, but you can have plate it and I'm happy for you, but I don't want it. My dog would eat them.

Kat Garcia 2:13

Your dog eats a lot of things he's not supposed to. Fuck. I know. Um, oh, I said the F word. You're, you're allowed to swear. That's adorable. I was like, oh, you've, I'm gonna get in trouble. You've listened to the podcast. I know. I don't. Was your reaction, you know,

Ellie Jones 2:27

I don't know.

Kat Garcia 2:28

Love. I'll be like, oh. I mean, there is a button when I upload episodes that's like, is this explicit? Always. Yes. That's

Ellie Jones 2:35

good. Always. Yes. That's good to know. Uh, I'm re flat ironing my hair because it was so freaking muggy today. It undid my original flat iron. So, which is so

Kat Garcia 2:45

rude. This is the second time you've done that.

Ellie Jones 2:47

Yeah, today. I love that. And, and it didn't dry because it was so muggy out. I had to blow dry my hair too. It's a good thing you cut off some of your hair so it's shorter. I actually said that today too. I was like, thank God I cut some inches off. Feels

Kat Garcia 3:01

fresh. It's like you knew. Yeah. It's like you um, should we talk about how we became friends? Should we talk? What do you wanna talk about? We have so many options.

Ellie Jones 3:13

I know. Where do you wanna start?

Kat Garcia 3:15

Um, well let's start with I. I don't know. I don't know. I didn't, I didn't, I didn't do a lot of prep for this, which assumes I do prep for the other episodes. I, I don't usually that's true, but, but like I have a list in my book of topics for us to talk about. But since this is your first episode, and since you are my Platonic life partner, you'll be on mower. I figured we could just

Ellie Jones 3:40

wing it. Wing it. I'm a winger. I'm a winger. I don't know if that's appropriate to say. I don't think that. I don't think I can say that. Well, you did. Well, I did. Sorry about that. Anyone? Um. I feel like I need to preface it, but I've been drinking a little bit today.

Kat Garcia 3:55

That's okay. I need it to,

Ellie Jones 3:57

no, that's not appropriate to say either.

Kat Garcia 3:59

Ah, it, it's, it's appropriate to say you're fine. It's okay. I know. I don't, we listen and we don't judge. That's true. I'm a Virgo. I judge a lot of things. She does judge things. Um, but I'm not judging your beverage. No. I myself have really boring wa It's not even salty water today. It's just water, so. Mm. That happens.

Ellie Jones 4:20

Let's see.

Kat Garcia 4:22

I, we could talk about transitions. You could talk about, um, I move at

Ellie Jones 4:28

all my transitions, I guess. I don't know. I guess, yeah,

Kat Garcia 4:31

I'm just, I'm just excited. Are we gonna talk about that

Ellie Jones 4:34

a little bit? Yeah, I think so.

Kat Garcia 4:35

Okay. Um, I'm excited that it's not happening in the dead of winter.

Ellie Jones 4:39

Yeah, me too.

Kat Garcia 4:40

Ellie has a. Well-documented history of choosing to move in the coldest part of the year. This time you're moving in fall. Yeah, which is like the best time of year because all the Polly things aren't alive usually. Mm-hmm. And it's not too hot, it's not too cold, it's just.

Ellie Jones 5:00

I agree. Except today when it was mug as hell and I was cursing it because we live in the Pacific Northwest. I was like, we like all our seasons and they're not allowed to overlap like this. It's rude. It is. Get outta here.

Kat Garcia 5:11

It's

Ellie Jones 5:11

get on outta here.

Kat Garcia 5:12

It's so muggy. It, the air's just like, I don't like it. You're not wrong. I don't like it. Um, let's see. You got a dog?

Ellie Jones 5:21

Oh yeah, I do. I, let's talk about

Kat Garcia 5:22

him.

Ellie Jones 5:23

Leonis. I got a dog and I thought I was getting a golden dole, and technically he is a golden doodle. But he's not, he's a bad one, not a bad dog, but like he doesn't even look like a golden doodle in any way.

Kat Garcia 5:36

Would you be okay with us sharing a

Ellie Jones 5:38

picture of your not doodle doodle? Oh yeah, for sure. I got funny videos. I have documented every second of that dog's life because he is like my second child. Um, he's, he's really

Kat Garcia 5:48

the closest I'm ever gonna be to a dog of my own. Yeah. 'cause I got to go with you

Ellie Jones 5:52

to, but I want, but I want everyone to know that a baby. Is easier than a dog because

Kat Garcia 5:58

that was, that was what she was deciding for. And I don't mean

Ellie Jones 5:59

that lightly because we have structures in place for babies and it's still so incredibly hard to have a baby. So I'm not just saying like, go instead of a puppy. Like just don't on both. If you have a choice because life isn't better without him, just go adopt like an old man dog.

Kat Garcia 6:17

We're an oldie cat life.

Ellie Jones 6:18

Oh man. Yeah. Old man dog all the way. Yeah, that's what I'm doing from now.

Kat Garcia 6:23

Um, it's definitely a switch from your last dog. Jesus. God was an old

Ellie Jones 6:27

man. Yep. Um, and he, we got him when he, his puppy too. But Leo is the most energetic dog I've ever had. Um, and he needs just like. All the training all the time. And when I first got him, I was working full time ma, majority of the time outta the house. And just by having a remote ish job prior to that. Mm-hmm. And I am. I don't feel like I'm behind on training, but he just has a lot of energy and a lot of energy to manage. So

Kat Garcia 6:58

your vet said he was a DHD? Yeah.

Ellie Jones 7:00

I mean, they gave me ca gabapentin for him when he was a puppy. 'cause they're like, oh, you got a good one. And I

Kat Garcia 7:05

said, what does that mean? What are you talking to me like that he loves everybody. Oh, he does what? His body, he doesn't have an aggressive bone in his body. Mm-hmm. He just, he likes to kiss you, loves you. He loves you with his whole body and, and let's talk about his full name.

Ellie Jones 7:19

Oh his name, his full name that we decided is Leonis Cedar. Long Paw Jones and it was just originally Leonis Cedar Jones. But after we got him, we shortly realized that when he likes his belly rubbed, he will put his paw straight up. And if your face is in the way, he's gonna, he does not punch you. Yeah. He will punch you straight with that paw. When he's long pa, I gotta, 'cause you are in the way.

Kat Garcia 7:47

Yep. I've gotten a couple fat lifts. Oh yeah. I've had, yeah, I think

Ellie Jones 7:50

he popped my contact out once my chin severely bruised. Like to the point that it like swelled. I've had a big bruise down my leg from his nails 'cause he jumped on me 'cause it was scary.

Kat Garcia 8:00

Oh my, my super fun leash burn from the beach. Oh, unlimited leash burns. Which it was, I don't know. That was what, like six months ago. And it's still there? Yeah.

Ellie Jones 8:08

Um, I've had one, I have one on my finger right now. From him pulling on the lights. He's just so big and I have lost like a hundred pounds and he makes me fly. He will literally make me take off in the air if I don't have my, like, feet set. And it's stunning. I've never been moved so fast before in my entire life.

Kat Garcia 8:32

We, we decided last week, last week to do like a test run of recording because lesson. Ellie had never, she had some anxiety about recording, which makes sense. I mean, I just pretend I'm talking to the voices in my head when I do it by myself.

Ellie Jones 8:48

Mm-hmm.

Kat Garcia 8:49

But other people have concerns and so I clipped her into the microphone. And then we just talked for a while. Well, in between the talking and the clipping and the young clipping, Leo saw a dog and a person. Who he's probably seen many times in his

Ellie Jones 9:05

life, lots of times, like

Kat Garcia 9:06

every

Ellie Jones 9:06

day

Kat Garcia 9:07

of

Ellie Jones 9:07

his puppy

Kat Garcia 9:08

life. And Ellie was sitting in a bench in like a camp bench. Very cute, very comfy. Not sturdy.

Ellie Jones 9:15

I love them.

Kat Garcia 9:16

And I was sitting in my rocking camp chair. You could play an excerpt of that. I should, I will. Insert an ext 'cause we have it recorded. We do. It'll be great. I I will add it to the end of this episode. So you walk in here because we were in the middle of talking about like school or something. Yeah. Um, and, and then all of a sudden. There goes Leo Ellie's struggling. Oh. And she's holding a cup of wine. I'm holding a glass of wine. Okay. And then he goes and Ellie's trying to like grab his leash and like hold onto it, but he's going just get a better, and I'm trying to get out of the chair to no. All of a sudden Ellie just goes flipped over All the way over. Like Yeah. All the way, all the way over. She ended up with about an inch of wine in her cup. Mm-hmm. Um, I'm

Ellie Jones 10:05

shocked by that.

Kat Garcia 10:06

I, I had wine

Ellie Jones 10:07

in my eyeball. You did? It was running down my back.

Kat Garcia 10:10

Mm-hmm. It was

Ellie Jones 10:10

everywhere

Kat Garcia 10:11

I had, I got, finally got outta the chair. I was like, shoot, I have a glass shoot. Why did I say, shoot, this is my podcast. I was like, should I have this glass wine glass? Gotta figure out what to do so I don't step on it and you know, cut myself. cause that would happen to us. Um, so I finally get Leo hand over hand and he comes back and he's like, I love everybody. He's like, mom, why

Ellie Jones 10:32

are you laying it on the ground? Whatcha you doing? I love, mom. Do you need

Kat Garcia 10:34

help? Mom, I

Ellie Jones 10:35

can help you. I mean like you in kiss. Give hugs because I love you. And then he spent

Kat Garcia 10:38

the next hour and a half staring at us. Through the window.

Ellie Jones 10:42

Yeah. He had to go inside. I was done. There's time limits. Yeah. Moms need breaks.

Kat Garcia 10:47

Moms need breaks. Uh, so it was very difficult. Ellie's life advice is if you are trying to decide between having a baby and getting a dog, don't do either one.

Ellie Jones 10:58

Yeah. Don't, don't bother. Don't. They're enjoyable, but there's not enough. Not enough energy for all of it. It's a lot. It's a lot. Um, but otherwise he's enjoyable. But he takes up a lot of my time and a lot of my energy. I took him today to run errands, which included going about an hour out of town one way. And we've done that trip more than a couple of times, and he just was like. So stressed. And I was like, dude, you have literally gone in the car with me every day of your life. Like every day what? He's a good car dog. And he was just like, I don't know how to sit down. And I was like, why don't you sit down or lay down? And he was so stressed. I don't know why. So I had to drop him off on the way home. Um, and then I went to Tricia's for a little bit and chatted with her. Oh yeah. Yeah. And then. I decided to come home and have a drink.

Kat Garcia 11:55

I love that for you. And Tricia just recorded an episode with me like a week and a half ago,

Ellie Jones 11:59

and it's really good. It's actually about being sober and I was like, that's on me. Not right now. I did do a large period of time where I was sober and that was a really good idea. It was a great reset for me. And, um, I don't know, I feel like I had some pretty good self. Awareness grow from that, but it wouldn't have come unless I had gone through that sober period. So I'm grateful for it. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Even though it was

Kat Garcia 12:26

hard. Yeah. What was the hardest thing about it for you?

Ellie Jones 12:29

I like the social aspect of drinking. Like I really like sitting down, playing a game or two and having a glass of wine while we do it, or a beverage of choice or something. I don't know. It just makes, I don't know. I just, that's what I like to do. It feels good to me. I enjoy it. Taste good. You know, I don't drink bad beverages. Sometimes I'll drink a cider, and I really like supporting local wineries and cider houses because all of our cider houses are gonna go bankrupt in Oregon if we don't support our local people more. Mm-hmm. So I've been. Purposely buying local things. Yeah. I don't know. Like, I'm just like, you lamb survive. I want you to keep Asian cider and, and I can't be the only drinker here, so God, I hope other people are doing this too. Um,

Kat Garcia 13:14

I feel like that is such an excellent summation of how I discovered the wineries that I like. Yeah, you were just like, we're going. I'm like, alright.

Ellie Jones 13:22

Yeah. And like we used to go to a lot of wineries and hang out and. Do like a wine tasting. A wine flight, and eat some snacks because everyone has different snacks or they don't, and then we'll never go there again. That's true. If you don't have snacks, because we don't have snacks, we're not coming back.

Kat Garcia 13:37

That's rude.

Ellie Jones 13:38

We're snack people, and if you don't have snacks, you better let us bring our own snacks and be grateful for it. And if you're snooty and you won't let me bring snacks, I'm not fucking going. I'm telling all my friends, no snacks. Don't go there. It's true. She will. I'm so, I'm so offended. You should. I know, I'm not gonna say they're mad out loud, but I'm mad at them still. Yeah, it was. They wouldn't even, lemme bring pre-made package sealed

Kat Garcia 14:00

food

Ellie Jones 14:01

in

Kat Garcia 14:01

and we were drinking and it was someone's birthday. That's bullshit. It was bullshit ing. Um, which is why I did call, so this weekend is my birthday weekend. We're recording the Friday of my birthday weekend and I decided that I wanted to double check and make sure that if I bake the cupcakes that I want for my birthday, that we can take them with us. To the winery and eat them. Bingo for my birthday. And I called Van Douser, who is not on our wine list right now, but we might add them. 'cause timing.

Ellie Jones 14:32

Oh, I like them.

Kat Garcia 14:33

Um, Trish and I have talked about them. They're great. We talked about the rose. We'll get to the rose, but they said that since they don't normally let outside food in, but if it's for like a special occasion Hmm. They would, I didn't know that. And I'm like, yes. Hmm. Cupcakes. That's nice and crackers, but we'll bring the good crackers.

Ellie Jones 14:50

Oh, I found all the Malibu in the cup.

Kat Garcia 14:52

Oh, did you?

Ellie Jones 14:53

I gotta stir it up a little bit.

Kat Garcia 14:55

Um, one of the things I don't, that's up a couple times. I don't drink

Ellie Jones 14:58

hard alcohol. I You really don't

Kat Garcia 15:00

anymore. I just was like, fucking don't you have that? Because we went. Somewhere we went to for away, for Ashley's, we did birthday weekend.

Ellie Jones 15:08

That's

Kat Garcia 15:08

correct. And you decided that you would get me alcohol in case I wanted my quick beverage?

Ellie Jones 15:14

That's correct. And I had mixed drinks for all, all the alcohol I brought you did

Kat Garcia 15:18

you did, you brought, you brought the, you brought the mixed drinks. I did. So. And everybody drank them. I was pretty impressed.

Ellie Jones 15:23

Yeah, we are definitely not in our twenties though. 'cause we would've needed that per day. Oh yeah, a hundred percent. Um, and we, I came home with a lot of leftover alcohol and I was like, eh, this is telling our age. Oh God. Yeah. I laughed. I was like, I'm okay with it though, because I didn't have a terrible time. No. Was great. Not even once. So no hang. I'm really okay with it.

Kat Garcia 15:42

Yeah. And I slept so good. I slept.

Ellie Jones 15:44

I slept a lot

Kat Garcia 15:45

and I didn't wake you up with my snoring.

Ellie Jones 15:47

I wouldn't have known I was sleeping,

Kat Garcia 15:49

which is great with earbuds on. But, um, Trisha and I were talking about this, how you have converted me.

Ellie Jones 15:57

I did

Kat Garcia 15:57

to drinking Rose. So since we're talking about alcohol, let's talk about that. So it's delicious. Why did you decide that was something that I needed to drink?

Ellie Jones 16:06

Well, I'm just saying if we're gonna share a bottle of wine, 'cause they won't just give me a bottle of wine by myself, which I think is rude. You're not wrong. It's cheaper to buy by the bottle and yeah, but they always make me order more than one glass or they just stare at me weird. So I was like, all right, fine. Bring me two glasses. Here you go Catherine. And you can get whatever you want, but pretend. And then you started drinking it 'cause it was in front of you and now you like it because I win.

Kat Garcia 16:30

Mm-hmm. I win at everything forever. Just not all the time. I think there was something

Ellie Jones 16:34

that came up for you that said that

Kat Garcia 16:36

Oh yeah. One of my Virgo things. Yep.

Ellie Jones 16:38

Yeah. No, I was

Kat Garcia 16:38

like,

Ellie Jones 16:38

yep, that's right

Kat Garcia 16:39

Uhhuh, I should get that. I should get that tattooed somewhere on my body. We all already know it. Nobody needs it tattooed. I know it's permanent in our brains. Um, I. I jumped into the, what was your first alcohol? Do you remember what your first alcohol was? Oh, yes I do, because mine was Long Island Iced Teas. This is God, two of them. That was my first alcohol.

Ellie Jones 16:59

Mm mm-hmm.

Kat Garcia 17:00

Um, that was before my grandma got me drunk.

Ellie Jones 17:03

It's really unfortunate, but mine was homemade wine. And I tell you, I never thought in my life I would be a wine drinker after that. I didn't drink wine for. Far too many years after that experience and then it was a chore. I mean, my sister really went and tried every kind of wine with me and was so patient for like four years I remember. And I was like, I don't like that. When we

Kat Garcia 17:28

met. Well, we were drinking more hard alcohol when we met. Um,

Ellie Jones 17:33

it's 'cause Danny made martinis first. Danny made

Kat Garcia 17:35

martinis and we worked in residential treatment. It's so good. And you gotta have unhealthy coping skills in your twenties. Yeah. Um, but we bonded and it was great. But when I met you, you were drinking. Your wine of choice was whole cluster.

Ellie Jones 17:50

Oh, it's so good from Willamette

Kat Garcia 17:52

Valley Vineyards. It's delicious. We honestly, we should get a bottle. I

Ellie Jones 17:55

agree.

Kat Garcia 17:56

And try it and see if you still like it. 'cause I don't think I've had one in ages and the last time was probably with you. Oh, that's, that's probably fair.

Ellie Jones 18:03

I mean, we were think we were drinking like 2013 vintage then.

Kat Garcia 18:07

Yeah,

Ellie Jones 18:07

maybe. Maybe. No, it was definitely earlier than that. 2009. No, Jesus. Where's my brain?

Kat Garcia 18:13

I don't know. 2010. 11. Probably.

Ellie Jones 18:16

Yeah, I bet there was a lot. I have a lot of photos. I could go back.

Kat Garcia 18:19

Yeah. We, we have well documented wine picture. We do. I tend to take all the pictures

Ellie Jones 18:23

with you and I.

Kat Garcia 18:24

Yes. We even have

Ellie Jones 18:25

our own album

Kat Garcia 18:26

now. We do. Um, I like to take pictures of wine labels. Mm-hmm. That I think are

Ellie Jones 18:30

pretty. Mm-hmm.

Kat Garcia 18:31

Do I ever go back and buy the wine? Not usually. No, but it's good to know. I liked it.

Ellie Jones 18:36

Ooh, I wanna make flower art. We should do that on a girl's night. Look how pretty that is. We gonna do flower art? Ooh, that looks fun. We could put it in our

Kat Garcia 18:42

windows. Ellie is like the queen of multitasking because we're talking. It's 'cause my brain won't. It's true. Her brain, her brain needs to do multiple things and she's like, um, ticky talking.

Ellie Jones 18:54

I love the tiktoks.

Kat Garcia 18:55

She does. She loves tiktoks. I really do.

Ellie Jones 18:56

I don't need anything else.

Kat Garcia 18:58

She made me read, she made me actually go into the app and look at the tiktoks that she sent me directly in the app instead of sending them to me by text message, because that just makes more sense.

Ellie Jones 19:07

I'm not downloading shit for you. It's taking up all my space in my phone. And you can just get the app. It's free.

Kat Garcia 19:13

It is free. But then I get sucked into the, there's no wormhole.

Ellie Jones 19:17

That's your problem. It's so you set a timer like I do. I have to set timers. Or else I lose my day.

Kat Garcia 19:22

My problem is usually when I have time to watch the talkie ticks, I go, I'm knitting.

Ellie Jones 19:28

Mm-hmm.

Kat Garcia 19:28

And one,

Ellie Jones 19:29

I have an automatic clicker, cannot for my thumb. That way if I can't touch my phone,

Kat Garcia 19:34

most, most people use that for reading books, works for your phone, and then works for TikTok. Never even thought of that. It's the same

Ellie Jones 19:39

thing. That's why I was like, I got one of those. I love that. I don't even use my Kindle anymore. I use my phone and now I got a little clicker thingy and it works for the tiktoks and I'm like, ah. It's my favorite.

Kat Garcia 19:49

I need to find ways to automate more things. When I knit, um, Ooh, the sweater looks like a sweater now. I love it. It looks like a sweater. It's gonna be great. Possibly. Um, oh, I don't think, uh, so I decided this year to make myself a sweater.

Ellie Jones 20:03

It's beautiful.

Kat Garcia 20:05

And I decided I wanted a yellow sweater. It's really golden though. A Yeah. Like a Goldie mustard. I was like, it's not yellow color. Don't say

Ellie Jones 20:13

that. 'cause it's

Kat Garcia 20:13

really not. Yeah, it's got like some different yellow, it's like golden. Mm-hmm. Yellowy. It's not orange.

Ellie Jones 20:19

Mm-hmm.

Kat Garcia 20:20

But it's not like mustard

Ellie Jones 20:21

and it's not like tweedy bird yellow. Yeah. No, no, no. But it's really pretty like golden buttercup and it's very like golden buttercup

Kat Garcia 20:29

maybe. Yeah. Butter cup's

Ellie Jones 20:30

too yellow.

Kat Garcia 20:31

Yeah. We'll, we'll figure it out. I don't know. There's too many colors we'll put out to the universe. Maybe someone will come up with a good name. She got it off. You got from yarn, uh, yarn pdx.com. Go check it out. They're awesome. You can design your own yarn, which is what I did because I couldn't find one that I liked. Um, and so I ordered yarn. By the way, yarn, um, absorbs a lot of water and it ends up in a creek, as we have discussed. Yeah. I

Ellie Jones 20:56

what I do? Mm.

Kat Garcia 20:57

That was, that was an adventure. But the sweater is looking like a sweater, like I put it on yesterday. Mm-hmm. Because it now has shoulders and arm holes. I love that. And a head hole, but I gotta work on that. Uh, needs more room. Um, but we gotta figure out what I'm making for you next. You said you want a hat? Yeah. Yeah. You want the, the,

Ellie Jones 21:17

with the ponytail hole.

Kat Garcia 21:18

The ponytail hole hat?

Ellie Jones 21:19

Mm-hmm.

Kat Garcia 21:20

You got color preferences?

Ellie Jones 21:22

Um, not yellow.

Kat Garcia 21:24

Well, that's all my yarn. I might have to order more. That's what I mean. It's like I don't want it to be matching your sweater. That's fair.

Ellie Jones 21:30

Um, we match

Kat Garcia 21:31

most other days greens. Okay.

Ellie Jones 21:33

So it can be a forest ferry,

Kat Garcia 21:35

a a forest ferry because I'm a forest ferry. Um, Ellie is a little witchy.

Ellie Jones 21:40

Yeah.

Kat Garcia 21:41

A little. Ah. What those, the fucking wis were burned on my

Ellie Jones 21:45

birthday. They

Kat Garcia 21:46

were burned on my birthday

Ellie Jones 21:47

in 1692. They were, I am offended.

Kat Garcia 21:51

I'm offended. There were not many witches actually burned at Salem

Ellie Jones 21:54

enough. Mm-hmm. No. They were burned on my birthday and now I don't know what's gonna happen, but I feel offended by it. Do we need to burn something else on your birthday this year? I don't know. I'm gonna go burn them in and burn the woman. I shouldn't say that loud. I'm not really, it's not safe. Don't do that. That's the alcohol talking. I'm not letting anyone on fire. That's not

Kat Garcia 22:13

safe. Oh yeah. No, don't talk. We will. We will not light people on fire. Disclaimer, it's not safe. Please don't do this at home. I was

Ellie Jones 22:18

like, don't, don't do that. That's a rock. I was just being spicy. You, I know being spicy. It happens. It comes out sometimes. I'm like, that's not real. I'm not doing, I just talk to smack because I'm good at the sch smack.

Kat Garcia 22:31

You, you are good at the sch smack. You've, you're also probably the person I know who has had the most, um, varied career of anyone I've ever talked to.

Ellie Jones 22:43

I agree. I have. I, I've had a lot of jobs. Big, big girl jobs,

Kat Garcia 22:49

very

Ellie Jones 22:49

different jobs, and just had a lot of big girl jobs for a long time. Like that's what happens when you were a volunteer firefighter. When you're young, like you have to be super responsible. And then that responsibility shows when you're working at like these minimum wage jobs and then you get promoted and then they can make you more responsible to do stuff, and you're like, this sucks, but okay, I can finally pay my rent. So you just keep going the manager route. And even though. It sucks supervising people at low minimum wage jobs. It's, I had to fire so many people and I'm really sorry about it. It was awful in there. Just rules that I just have to follow 'em and it sucked and I hated it every time. So I just hope they're all okay and I feel bad. I still feel bad to this day, but I had to make the restaurants run.

Kat Garcia 23:35

Oh, I love it. I just, you know, you got a task

Ellie Jones 23:37

assigned to you,

Kat Garcia 23:38

so you gotta do the work. You were, you were at one point the youngest. Firefighter in the state of Oregon. Is that correct?

Ellie Jones 23:44

Yeah, there's like a whole bunch of things like that, but I, it is weird. No one has that written down. They just say it. I have it in

Kat Garcia 23:51

my

Ellie Jones 23:51

brain, my classes,

Kat Garcia 23:52

this is the stuff that my brain holds onto. But

Ellie Jones 23:54

I took the last old training of firefighter one and two and now it's like a whole different program. So if you go to firefighter school, um, and take the fire science program, you won't get taught the same program I taught and. Mine was very hands on. They were like, this is how you know the bath so you don't blow up your hose and blah, blah, blah. And there was no books involved. You just watched the hose and you watched your nozzles and you watched your, and if it blew up, you did it wrong. No, you weren't allowed to blow it up. They got real mad at you. And then they would be like, no, no, no, no. Turn that. Turn that down. But I had some of the best people in my life as. Mentors and people who wanted me to succeed in the fire science career, that it was really astounding. And there's not a lot of women in fire degrees. And I, for me, I had to step out of it because of how mentally hard it was.

Kat Garcia 24:53

Well, you were also like,

Ellie Jones 24:54

I was very young, but I also had to like step out of it because of the loss that kept happening. And it's just a hard job. And I also knew that I couldn't really be a mom and do that job because you're gone for 24, 48 hours sometimes. Depends on the shift. And I couldn't do that. Not when my guy was little, you know? So I was just like, I gotta find a job that will allow me to be mom and uh. Then I become a therapist gal.

Kat Garcia 25:22

And I mean, if,

Ellie Jones 25:23

and I love it. Love it. I say that, but

Kat Garcia 25:25

like, if you, if you talk to your child, I mean, if he will speak with you, he's so introverted. He's, he is an introverted hermit. And I love my boy be all my, he's a preteen right now. So add that into the mix. But if you talk to him, he is, he's being raised by a therapist.

Ellie Jones 25:42

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Kat Garcia 25:43

Yep.

Ellie Jones 25:44

We're doing okay. It's

Kat Garcia 25:44

doing real good. Doing well. Good. Um, do you think being a firefighter so young and having just that responsibility, how do you think that shaped the career you had, the choices you've made?

Ellie Jones 25:58

It shaped everything. Um, being a volunteer firefighter, it gave me like this incredible sense of responsibility for the community I live in and how incredibly important it's to give back. If you have the ability to give back, and that's precious, to be able to go into someone's emergency and be the calm for them. And I felt that every single call and I would just walk in and be like, we're gonna be okay. Everything's fine. You, it's this shit show. Yeah, you're bleeding, you're gonna be okay And have like this 16, 17-year-old girl just walk into your house and just be like, it's fine. What's up? We're gonna get this taken care of. Dude, thanks for calling us. Man, your driveway's long. Do you know how long it took us to get here? Golly, I got outta science class though. So badass. Let's get you on some oxygen. I mean, I was, there was so much bravado back then and I just, it was so funny and I worked with, volunteered with the very best humans ever and we all just like looked out for each other. It was really amazing, the brotherhood and the support and the good, the hard. Yeah, changes you and then you just always want that and you try to replicate it wherever you go. And each environment has their own environment and it's not always replicable. So you're always just kind of reminiscing of the past.

Kat Garcia 27:22

I definitely think you need to embroider on a pillow. It's a shit show. You're bleeding, it's gonna be fine. Um, I think that if we came up with that design. We could, I don't even know I could shit like that for you. I know. That's funny. That's why I love that we're recording this, but I

Ellie Jones 27:37

literally did say that. I'm sure Hunter and I used to get promoted to all the time, all those difficulty breathing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And be like, oh, you wanna marry me? No, honey. Not today. Let's put your pants on. Why are you always naked when I'm here? You don't even be naked when I'm here. I,

Kat Garcia 27:54

I do enjoy lots of naked the stories when you were like. Fancy dressed up or stuff and you had to go to phone. Don't say that

Ellie Jones 28:00

when I have a drink in my mouth. I'm sorry. Oh my God. I knew maybe you were gonna almost snort it through your nose. That's funny. I was reminiscing about that. Maybe it was with you. Yeah. I used to respond in whatever outfit I was in. So like if I was at softball, I'd be, I'd respond in my softball outfit and I was. On the Linn County Lemon Warfare Fair Court. We are among royalty. I tell everybody, but she really does. And I have stopped telling people that story, but it is loud now and it's, it's, it's

Kat Garcia 28:27

okay. I tell it for her.

Ellie Jones 28:28

It was fun. I had a great time doing it. And the other ladies that participated in that were amazing and I have some incredible memories from it. So, but at the same time, there were more than. More than a few times, several of us would respond, um, to a call in our dresses and I'd be like, stuffing my dress in, my turnouts, getting in the back of the track or whatever to take off and I could hear our like. Lady that was coordinating. Oh, your dispatchers? All of us. No, the For the 11 warfare, and her name was Becky. And she'd be like, don't you run your dresses, take your off, don't get it. Bit with the hat. And she was talking about my fire helmet. I just cracked up. I just loved it. It was so fun. It really helped channel my desire for activity. And just funneled my motivation to do better in a really good way. And I really wish that all kids hadn't experienced to volunteer with the police and fire department because we need more of them. And it is such an amazing job, but it's so mentally hard and you have to be ready for it. And if we introduce people to it, I think it could open up the doors for a lot of safety for people that need it.

Kat Garcia 29:47

What made you. Not even pick, but excuse me. How did you come into Firefighter Volunteer firefighting?

Ellie Jones 29:55

There was nothing else to do in Sao

Kat Garcia 29:56

Ellie. Lived in a teeny, teeny tiny town in, uh, pretty tiny in the Li Valley. Yep. Uh, very small. Like how many people were in your graduating class?

Ellie Jones 30:06

The population sign for the majority of my life said there were 610 people in the city of Saio, and my family was. Five of those people, five of the 610. Um, so it's just astounding to me how long those population boards can stay out of data. 'cause I'm sure it was bigger than that, but I'm sure it's bigger now. But there wasn't a whole lot to do. We didn't even have a track, you know, like when we went running because of whatever sport we were playing, we had to run on the highway. Which is crazy. It's crazy thinking about that, but you know. Yeah. The nineties for sure. And they're like, don't get, don't get hit by. The tricks ain't coming. Well, no shit, Sherlock. All right. Good idea. Thank you. Um, so there really wasn't a lot to do and you can only ride your bike for so long and there's a lot of shenanigan. If you don't channel those shenanigans, then you're gonna continue to get into more shenanigans, which kind of means you're gonna live in a shit show. And I already was tiptoeing there and I just was like, I got a course correct. I don't, I don't actually want to mess my life up in some way that I probably could if I continue doing things that. I shouldn't do. I was like, yeah. I have not seen a lot

Kat Garcia 31:22

like Right. It's like, let's be, let's be as non-descript as possible. Yeah. You know, things like,

Ellie Jones 31:26

we're kids in the country and there's like, you know, the nineties, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. In the where I, I can't say it out loud. You have No, it's on recording. It's not

Kat Garcia 31:34

appropriate.

Ellie Jones 31:35

It, it's not appropriate. Do I need to say it? No, I'm not

Kat Garcia 31:38

saying

Ellie Jones 31:38

it anyway.

Kat Garcia 31:40

Ellie's from the country. Don't

Ellie Jones 31:41

say that.

Kat Garcia 31:41

That's how she says it. It's not true. And so if you ever encounter her in public and you hear her say, country, I just need you to know.

Ellie Jones 31:49

Mm-hmm.

Kat Garcia 31:49

She's on her best city behavior. I am on

Ellie Jones 31:52

a good behavior.

Kat Garcia 31:53

Um, I say city behavior, I know a dork. So where was I? Um, we're talking about how tiny, small Assiah was. Yeah. So around the track.

Ellie Jones 32:04

So I started hanging out with. The fire chief who was newer at the time, and he had daughters kinda my age and they started school and we all went to the same school and church and everything because there's five churches in the town and like only one had a youth program. So I mean, there really wasn't anything to do but that, or sports and or work. And I worked a lot, so I was like, I gotta play when I can. And I ended up hanging out with. His daughters quite a bit. And so we'd stop by the, you know, the fire district office and say hi to chief and I was like, Hey, what are you gonna, lemme sign up. And he is like, why do you wanna do that? And I'm like, I don't know. It sounds like fine. You need light shit on fire. And he's like, there's so much more to it. And I'm like, nah, to this day, nah, you just light shit on fire.

Kat Garcia 32:54

If Ellie knows that she can light shit on fire, she's in. I'm always in. That's so fun. She's in a hundred percent of the time. It's so fun. My birthday, we're gonna have some candles. Are you gonna be in charge of lighting them on fire?

Ellie Jones 33:05

No, you're, that's your birthday.

Kat Garcia 33:07

I'm gonna blow

Ellie Jones 33:07

em out. Birthdays are different. That's not lighting shit on fire.

Kat Garcia 33:10

We're lighting some shit on fire. This little tiny cupcake is not the same.

Ellie Jones 33:13

Anyway, so I used to razz him about it and he was like, all right, well it's hard and you gotta start coming down to drill. And I was like, when is that? And he's like, Monday after, or Monday evening's, like seven to 9:00 PM and I was like, sign me up. I'll be there. So every Monday night for years I was down stationed six, four to five till about nine 15. Going through drills, learning everything I could learn, getting taught by all the guys and gals down there, and learning how to do a lot of work and save lives. And

Kat Garcia 33:46

how old were you when you started showing up for drill?

Ellie Jones 33:49

Uh, they let me fill out the application three days before I turned 15. 15. Yeah. For drill

Kat Garcia 33:56

or to start volunteering?

Ellie Jones 33:58

I don't know, 15 or 16. One of those. I think I was 15 'cause I couldn't drive. I don't think I could drive yet.

Kat Garcia 34:03

You could drive farm equipment but not cars. Well, that's

Ellie Jones 34:05

different. Yeah, because

Kat Garcia 34:07

the, I don't understand why that's different, but I grew up in the suburbs. I know, yeah, I know. They would

Ellie Jones 34:11

let us drive these giant combines at like 12, 13 years old, but we couldn't fucking drive on the road. Alright, sure. But yeah, we, I mean, but I got my driver's license right when I turned 16, so I must've, it must've been before I was 15 or when I was 15. And then. I was just a cadet, you know, and so I was just learning everything. I wasn't gonna wanna fire calls or anything at that time 'cause I was too young. And then at 16 I was able to start taking the classes and, um, doing more, yeah. Hands on. And I loved it. I really enjoyed it a lot. Yeah. And it just kept growing from there. And I really thought that I would do like a paramedic and. Er sort of rotation or something. I really like the medical side of it, but like fighting fire was real fun too. Um, and I was also like working full time at, um, a company in several different towns and I was having to drive to down in Newport and Lincoln City and all over several times a week and it was just so much, um. And then I got started thinking about having a family and started thinking about what else I could do. And I got my bachelor's degree in criminal justice administration thinking that I would do something like that. Um, and then I did a whole 180 and went to, um, work on my master's in mental health counseling. And I don't regret it.

Kat Garcia 35:36

You don't, 'cause you made me go to grad school.

Ellie Jones 35:38

I did. I actually just tell everyone to go to grad school, like just do it. It's awful. It's truly the hardest thing ever. Um, and. It sucks. Okay. And you have to drink. Well, I, I don't want a precursory for anyone, but it's better if you drink through it. CS get degrees. I have never in my entire life other than justifying the degree done 'cause it's, they graduated too early to confer it. Um, I've never asked anyone for their class list as long as they have the degree and they can prove it. I good. You, you should know it.

Kat Garcia 36:11

Yeah.

Ellie Jones 36:12

And if you don't, I'm gonna let you know and I'll find If I'm your supervisor Yeah. I'll know. You can only fake it so long. Exactly. And uh, so it was just really, um, satisfying for me Yeah. To transition that way.

Kat Garcia 36:24

Well, and you transition from a helping profession where you could light shit on fire

Ellie Jones 36:29

mm-hmm.

Kat Garcia 36:30

To a different type of helping.

Ellie Jones 36:32

I used to come out of the burglars with

Kat Garcia 36:34

metaphorical fires.

Ellie Jones 36:36

I used to get outta the burn to learns and check to see if I still had my eyelashes and rub my fingers on there and check to see if I still eyebrows. Do you ever lose either of those? No. But sometimes it get a little cinched. It was so hot. Oh God. I used to get steam burned. Ooh, your sweat would, uh, burn you between the layer of the turnouts. Um, 'cause it gets so hot and gets steam. Burn stink.

Kat Garcia 36:57

That stink. Terrible. Yeah,

Ellie Jones 36:58

it was pretty rough. I don't like those, those like the worst that, well, that's not true, but that's one of the most frequent injuries I used to get. Ooh, frequent injuries. That's what I mean is he is like, like, you're doing hard shit. You're always gonna get hurt.

Kat Garcia 37:09

Well, yeah.

Ellie Jones 37:10

Um, but yeah, I enjoyed it a lot and I worked with the very best people who really, really gave a lot. To participate and to do it well. And it's just incredibly hard, especially as a volunteer, 'cause you just never know who's gonna show up. And there's just, a lot of times there's just two or three of us and then we'd wait a couple more minutes and like maybe one other person would show up and we're like, okay, we gotta go. Let's all

Kat Garcia 37:35

this is what we got. Yeah.

Ellie Jones 37:36

Like we're rolling with two 17 year olds and a 22-year-old, you know, up with

Kat Garcia 37:41

some fire shit out. I'm on the

Ellie Jones 37:44

way. It gets very

Kat Garcia 37:45

exciting. Yeah. Mm-hmm. It sounds like it. Mm-hmm. I'm gonna pass on that. I was very

Ellie Jones 37:50

excited

Kat Garcia 37:50

about it. Yeah, we

Ellie Jones 37:52

um,

Kat Garcia 37:52

I'm glad 'cause I could not have done that, I don't think at all.

Ellie Jones 37:57

No, it's okay. It's not for everyone. But I do wish more people had the opportunity to experience it early on. 'cause it is so significantly impacting. Well,

Kat Garcia 38:06

I don't, I don't remember ever hearing that as a teenager you could go and do something like that at all.

Ellie Jones 38:13

I have so much bravado though that I'm just like,

Kat Garcia 38:15

that's not a lie.

Ellie Jones 38:16

I'll just, I can do it if I want to. What's, I'm old enough. Sure.

Kat Garcia 38:20

I, I, I've always said fake it till you make it. Mm-hmm. But until I met you, I didn't know. And this is not a dig, this is at all. No, I know. I know. But until I met you, I didn't know that you could do that and be successful. Oh yeah. Because if you believe you can do it. Can't. It's already done. It's already done. And you don't have to convince everyone else they're gonna see you do it. Yeah. I didn't know that that was a real thing. And then I met you,

Ellie Jones 38:46

and now later you can make a bajillion years later. Anything in your life if you want happen. I'm a big, big band fest.

Kat Garcia 38:52

Yes, Ellie manifests. I love it when we go places because I drive and she's my passenger princess and she navigates for me. I'm very

Ellie Jones 38:59

good at

Kat Garcia 38:59

it. She's very good at it. She's djj. You gotta tell me

Ellie Jones 39:01

though, if you're. If I'm supposed to be navigating, you have to tell me to tell me, because otherwise I assume you got it. 'cause I'm not in charge.

Kat Garcia 39:07

And we, we navigate differently, which we have really only discovered in the last handful of years. Uh, I

Ellie Jones 39:15

feel like that's a separate podcast in itself.

Kat Garcia 39:18

But when we drive places, um, I get the best parking spots if I'm with Ellie because she manifests Good Park. We're talking like, like every time holiday. Yeah. Time of your parking spots. Yep. We're getting the very best one. It's glorious. It's the one I want. I don't, I I I need to learn more of your manifestation, uh, skills. It's about being

Ellie Jones 39:42

in the right frequency. Receiving. Alright,

Kat Garcia 39:45

well I'll work on

Ellie Jones 39:46

that.

Kat Garcia 39:46

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Ellie Jones 39:47

That's another podcast we can talk about. I know. I'm, I'm big into manifesting. I recently challenged the universe and said, show me how good it can get. 'cause I was at like rock bottom. And then. And then it did, and I am still just like stunned every day since then and or the meds are working. You know? It's both.

Kat Garcia 40:06

I think it's both and it's literally be careful what you ask for when you tell the universe,

Ellie Jones 40:14

my God. What you got. Wow. Because you, you did that. I did it. I did. And I, I said it like a challenge too. I was like, alright, fuck you bitches. She literally was

Kat Garcia 40:24

like, you know what, fuck you. Show me what you got. And I was like, maybe, maybe don't piss off the universe. No. Maybe you don't say that to the universe.

Ellie Jones 40:32

God, I'm still stunned. Like every day. It's been a month and like a couple of days since I said that. And I am stunned every day since then.

Kat Garcia 40:42

It's been a very transformative summer.

Ellie Jones 40:46

Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah.

Kat Garcia 40:49

It's a lot of transition and it's a lot of, a lot of big change.

Ellie Jones 40:53

Yeah. And I didn't, it's a lot of big change that wasn't expected in any way.

Kat Garcia 40:57

Yeah.

Ellie Jones 40:58

I didn't, I couldn't for told any of this, even though I think. I was having a lot of body issues in conjunction with it, and I just wasn't willing to see it because I'm hardheaded What I know. I just counter it to like resilience, but sometimes being resilience is awful and like you should just prioritize whatever you want because you're replaceable.

Kat Garcia 41:24

Yeah.

Ellie Jones 41:25

And I think that is the grossest part of it all.

Kat Garcia 41:28

Yeah. And I

Ellie Jones 41:29

think

Kat Garcia 41:29

it's hurt my heart. It, yeah. It's, it's been rough. And at the same time, you have rediscovered something that you've loved, that you hadn't been able to do for a while. Yeah. And it's, no, it's not anything inappropriate. No. Could you outta the gutter? It's, it's a different podcast. It's different episode. Yeah. No, I am, I'll do that one day.

Ellie Jones 41:48

I'm just back to providing therapy. Yeah. And I love it. Like, it's not like I'm back, but like I'm back bitches. It's like that, like it's so, it's literally so fun. I, I do the majority of remote and there are some sessions that I'm like, dude, that was like the best freaking therapy session ever. I'm like, you know that like I'm telling my clients that and they're like, yeah. And I'm like, yeah, I'll see you next week. Bye. And it's just so fun. I'm just like, yeah, these people are amazing. And there's like, ah, it's just so fulfilling to see them be beautiful humans and to like try when I was surrounded by people who are beautiful, but I was also surrounded by people who. Weren't really trying to be beautiful humans.

Kat Garcia 42:35

Mind I say catty bitches. Those are my words. Catty bitches.

Ellie Jones 42:39

I'm just surprised. I'm surprised by it all. Yeah. I still can't like conceptualize it all. Yeah. I'm just, I'm truly surprised by the outcome of all of this, and I never expected it to happen, but I'm here and I am walking forward into a brand new chapter. And it feels right. I feel more in tune with myself than I have in a long time, and I'm ready. I think maybe that's the simple as it gets is like I just ready Yeah. For whatever's next, because my pre-designed life is no longer predesigned. Yeah. Everything is up in the air, literally, and I'm just like. I'm moving forward with what feels right with my sacral response and my heart, and I'm not gonna let my anxious mind ruin it. And my anxious mind has actually been very quiet, so I know that it's a good decision. Yeah. And I'm moving forward with like hope. Yeah. But I don't

Kat Garcia 43:36

know for what yet, but just hope, which is. Huge on its own. Mm-hmm. Having hope is hard, having, having a positive outlook of any kind right now is, is just hard in general. But yes,

Ellie Jones 43:50

I, I can watch some political things now, but I had to go for a period of time and like wean myself off 'cause I just had so much of a mental and physical reaction to it all. Um, it was dysregulating me throughout the day and I couldn't get regulated in like a mental sense, I guess. Like I was able just to go through my day and still like do the laundry and make dinner and all that shit. Right? But like, I was mad about the state of the universe and I was, you know, I'm like, I have no fucking control over any of that, so who cares? Yeah. So now I'm more in this like passive, just like I'm just a participant on this rock. That I wish everybody would quit ruining. Mm-hmm. Quit throwing their shit away. Yes. And Ashley Recycle Act. I'm still, it's fucking stayed in Nevada. I am never gonna forgive them. They don't even have any fucking recycling centers and they're the number one vacation place. Rude.

Kat Garcia 44:47

Ellie went until Vegas for the first time, time last summer, and I'm still not okay. She's still not okay about it. It was very upsetting. I got multiple text message was, was it last

Ellie Jones 44:54

summer?

Kat Garcia 44:54

It was last summer.

Ellie Jones 44:56

No.

Kat Garcia 44:56

Yeah,

Ellie Jones 44:57

I

Kat Garcia 44:57

think

Ellie Jones 44:58

maybe Tuesday. I don't even know. No, I

Kat Garcia 45:00

think it was last night.

Ellie Jones 45:01

I don't even know, but I'm never going again.

Kat Garcia 45:04

You can't say

Ellie Jones 45:04

never. Well, I still feel bad about the amount of recyclables that I left there and they're in their landfills.

Kat Garcia 45:12

We can bring in extra duffle bag, put, put recyclables in and bring them home and recycle 'em.

Ellie Jones 45:16

I know that recycling is not end all, be all, blah, blah, blah. I've read the statistics, I read the apple, but it still helps, but it's better than nothing. And it's like the number one vacation spot.

Kat Garcia 45:25

I love that. You just tact old fucking people on the pause. We call that edactly. It's what happens.

Ellie Jones 45:30

I get all mad about it.

Kat Garcia 45:31

Mm-hmm. It's, it's a good, it's a good uh, uh, energy release. It pisses

Ellie Jones 45:37

me off.

Kat Garcia 45:38

It does that too. Click, click, click. Well, thanks for, uh, thanks for chatting with me today. We're gonna chat again. Are we done? Yeah, we can be. Oh, we don't have to be, I mean, you know, we hit, we are at 49 minutes. Oh. So, you know. Wow.

Ellie Jones 45:53

Yeah. I, well, what should we talk about next? I don't, we always have a lot of things to

Kat Garcia 45:57

talk about. We do. Well, let's, let's wrap this one up and then we can talk again. Okay.

46:06

So with that, I'm gonna go, I'm currently editing this episode with Lily curled up next to me, and surprisingly not an ALA insight. Make sure you're following us on all of the social media things where it's, sorry, that's my inside voice on Instagram and Facebook. If you have not done so already, please, subscribe wherever you listen. And drop us a review. We love comments. Five stars are great and make sure you're rating any podcast you listen to with five stars. It means a lot, and sometimes we read them and we get teary. But if you don't need to know that, just pretend I didn't say it at the end of this lovely recording. Stay tuned and you can listen to the audio of Leo flipping his mom over. Otherwise, we'll talk to y'all soon. I just feel like everyone needs a sit stand desk and kids need a lot more movement and they need a lot more hands on. And I Leah, wait. Come here Leo. I can't do anything. I know I'm coming. Leo, come here. I'm literally covered in wine. Oh, Leo, come here. Ugh. What are you doing? Come here. Wine, Leo. Remember how we said no to hooting? Okay. Okay. I gotta go the wife off. Yep. Leo, I'm covered in wine because he pulled me over. I love that boy. But all the way over. I have never. Swung back that fast in my whole life. But he's gonna stay inside with you now because I'm done. Wow. I have to tell you, I have never had that happen in my whole life. That has never happened before. You still ended up with wine in your glass? I don't even know how. I literally have one in my eyeball. I believe it. I'm okay. He needs, I gotta, I dunno what to do. There's still someone on the chair somewhere. I don't know what, I don't even know. I'm covered it though. I'm good. Do you need to change? No. It's the end of the day and it's black. That's true. Thank you. You're welcome. She, I was like, I literally can't do anything literal. Literally couldn't get out of my chair fast enough and I was like, I just to out, I was grab the dog up. I'm gonna show people my haw. It's a good thing you weren't wearing the other dress. Oh no, I thought about wearing that one too, and then I was like, well, Sloane will be there. Oh, that's found some mine. Fuck. Hey dog. I love him. I love him. I. I love him.