On The Runs
Runners are the best storytellers. On The Runs podcast features running narratives from the
best of those storytellers. Whether hearing from a runner who started a year ago or 50 years ago, the
conversation is engaging, funny, and enlightening. Guest stories range from struggles to
outstanding achievements and everything in between … including “Code Brown” tales. “Code
Brown” situations are not what you might think. Guests share awkward & unique circumstances
they have found themselves in throughout their journey.
The crosstalk between hosts Eric and Erika is natural and entertaining.
Friends for over 20 years, they have the gifted skill set to keep the listener glued to the interviews
along with the bantering between themselves. Their conversations come across as fireside chats
amongst friends leaving you feeling like you were there.
On The Runs has been fortunate to have a wide range of guests over their nearly 200 episodes from the local 5k runner to epic ultra marathoners. Iconic leaders and history makers in the sport along with, nutritionist, coaches, race directors, peloton instructors and running legends.
On The Runs
208 | Julianna Coughlin | Runnah Podcast Host and Cape Cod Marathon Promoter
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Welcome to Episode 208 featuring Julianna Coughlin from the Runnah Podcast!
Join us for an episode packed with lively banter, deep dives into the Super Bowl, Olympics, and insider tips on the Cape Cod Marathon — all sprinkled with humor, passion, and personal stories. Whether you're a runner, a music lover, or just here for the good vibes, this episode has it all.
Main Topics Covered:
- Highlights and critiques of the Super Bowl halftime show and commercials
- In-depth discussion of the Olympics: sports, opening ceremonies, and favorite moments
- Spotlight on the Cape Cod Marathon: challenges, community, challenges, and insider tips
- Personal stories including Lindsey Vonn’s injury, NFL game frustrations, and marathon planning
- A fun Olympic winter sports quiz and hot takes on trail shoes and running gear
- Unfiltered conversations about music in sports, shoe collections, and travel plans
Key Insights:
- The evolution of Super Bowl performances and how they reflect cultural moments
- Why the Cape Cod Marathon is a community and family event you can't miss
- The importance of community-building in local races and how social media amplifies it
- The versatility of shoes, from budget picks to high-tech trail shoes, and their role in injury prevention
- The significance of Olympic torch bearers like Courtney DeWalter and the journey of the Olympic flame
- Humorous insights into group chat banter about health, humor, and everyday life
- Tips for marathon lottery success and planning multi-race years in advance
Chapters
00:00 - Welcome and episode overview — what’s on tap today
02:45 - Snow obsession and Pat Patriot's latest misadventures
04:30 - NFL playoff frustration: Patriots and the worst game ever
08:11 - Halftime show critique: vibes, surprises, and favorite moments
11:09 - Social media reactions and celebrity sightings during the Super Bowl
15:56 - Commercial highlights: AI, gambling, and unexpected ads
19:20 - Julianna Coughlin host of Runnah Podcast
29:00 - Cape Cod Marathon - The energy of race weekend
33:57 - Special challenges: Chowda and Lobster challenges explained
36:49 - Race logistics, registration, and how to get involved
45:42 - The magic of race day: finish line excitement and broadcast plans
50:10 - Future races, planning, and potential live podcast episodes
54:03 - Personal insights: shoe collections, gear tips, and favorite brands
66:11 - Around the world: marathons from Boston to Tokyo and mysterious upcoming races
70:34 - Olympic winter sports challenge: can you name all 16?
112:13 - Torch relay fun, favorite moments, and Paris Olympics observations
117:30 - Wrapping up: inspiring stories, favorite bands, and the joy of sports
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Don't Fear The Code Brown and Don't Forget To Stretch!
Eric (00:54)
What's up everybody? Welcome to episode 208 of the On the Runs podcast. And the Patriots might have lost, Lindsey Vonn might have broken her leg, and we lost Brad from three doors down, Stefan Diggs and Cardi B are no more, but it's not the end of the world.
It's a great day for a podcast. We have an amazing episode. And as my good friend Marathon Panda likes to say, today is the best day to make better than yesterday. So with that.
I say hello to my kick-ass Rockstar co-host, six-star Erica. What's up?
Erika (01:28)
What's up, dude? Hell yes, that's a way to start an episode with some wise words from our friend marathon panda, Maurice. Mo, how you doing, buddy? We miss you.
Eric (01:37)
Feel
like we needed that. We needed that, you know?
Erika (01:40)
⁓
God, I just need some positivity and maybe that positivity will warm everything up because it's freaking cold out. Still, I hate it. I'm done with winter. I'm over it. Of course, freaking more snow. It works for the skiers, but me not so much. Just me being miserable and cold while I shovel.
Eric (01:51)
And do know what's coming tonight? You know what's coming tonight?
Yes! Yes! It's amazing!
I'm so excited. I saw
your post and it's like, just melt already! And then I posted more snow comins!
Erika (02:09)
No,
that was the best though, because you can kind of picture it. was a picture of, what is his name on SNL? Like Matt, it's Chris Farley, but what's his like ⁓ the Van Down by the River guy?
Eric (02:23)
That guy in a little coat. That's all I'm thinking. I don't know his name. I don't know his name.
Erika (02:25)
No, no, no, no. But anyway,
it's a picture of him being all angry and just yelling, for the love of God, melt already. And I'm like, I feel this in my soul, every bit of that.
Eric (02:41)
And I'm like, listen,
this is an everyday thing. We get so mad at each other. Like we just got mad talking about like, you don't help with the show notes. You don't check them. And I spelled something wrong or you said, I promise you go on the last episode for Alex. I promise if you listened that you will put in the links to his things and you didn't do it. And we're getting mad at each other. And the funny thing is I saw your post that on your own Instagram, not ours, by the way.
Erika (02:44)
Ugh.
Yes.
Eric (03:10)
And I got mad at you because I was like, no, don't melt the snow. I don't want it to melt. And that's why I posted the weather when WMR goes, Hey, we changed our original prediction to more snow.
Erika (03:14)
Shit that I post on my thing all the time. Yeah. This is where we differ.
is it seriously more now? It was supposed to be only like one to two inches. No. So done. God, what I wouldn't give right now for a 90 degree day with bugs and sweat and humidity. Melt it. No, that's where I thrive, you guys. I love that kind of weather.
Eric (03:30)
So if Tuesday night we're getting more than they originally predicted. Yes. Yes. I'm so excited. I'm so excited.
No! Erika, sh-shut up! Stop it right now!
⁓ man, yeah in the summertime. Don't melt my snow.
Erika (03:56)
I would take it in the winter. I'm
moving, you guys. I'm gonna find somewhere that's not freezing cold.
Eric (04:00)
Hey,
you're running still outside. I'm running outside now. You see that? I'm running, but...
Erika (04:05)
I did see that, but since Winter Warriors is over, I have been hungered down on my treadmill.
Eric (04:11)
You
know, it's funny is when I posted that that post day of everyone running outside, I had a hard time finding a photo of you, but I found one of you like running in your basement, your little dungeon, whatever you call it. And I was like, maybe I post like we're all running outside except for Erica.
Erika (04:15)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. It's not a dungeon.
And I'm all happy
and warm inside. See ya. That's where I'll be for foreseeable future.
Eric (04:30)
Anyways, I'm glad to see a smile in. think we're all a little
bummed about last night. Everyone listening is bummed about or two nights ago, the Patriots game. ⁓ I'm just going to go out there and say it worst football game ever.
Erika (04:36)
Ugh.
Yeah
It was horrible. It was so boring. was so, it was just so boring.
Eric (04:49)
Terrible.
Terrible. was just like, mean, that other team should be disappointed in themselves too, for like not entertaining us. It was so bad. It was so bad. At one point, so my number in, in squares, I had a five for the NFC team. We will not mention their name by the way. I, and when they kept kicking all these field goals, I'm like, I might get a five here. I might get a five and I just need the Patriots to get one touchdown and have a seven and I'm going to win like 200 bucks. And I was like,
Erika (04:55)
Everybody sucked. Except we just sucked more. ⁓
Mm-hmm.
you
you
⁓ that would have been nice.
Eric (05:18)
When I got my number five, I was like, there's no way I'm getting this. And I was like, there could be a chance. Should you tell me there's a chance? I need to get that button, by the way, added to the soundboard. Yes.
Erika (05:26)
So you're telling me? Yes, you do. Replace one
of your rock ones, the rock. You have three of those. You don't
Eric (05:34)
the rock is staying?
Erika (05:35)
Guys, you have three of them.
You can get rid of one of my fart buttons then. I only need like two.
Eric (05:41)
No, you get your
whole page. have your own page. So you watch the game. You know what I kind of enjoyed was, and I don't pay attention to football as much anymore, but I obviously was because it was the Patriots, but everything that leads up the whole week, like I was picturing us at like the expo and everything. Cause there was all the live radio shows and all the content. was like, ⁓ man, we're going to take the on the runs podcast on the road someday. And I'm.
Erika (05:45)
⁓
Mm-hmm.
⁓
Eric (06:12)
I'm not going to change our name from podcast, I do kind of think the On the Runs podcast is becoming more of a show.
Erika (06:21)
You know, I like where your head's at. I like your visualization. You're putting it on your wishboard or whatever it is and manifesting. And I'm on the boat.
Eric (06:25)
Yeah.
And pay attention, cause coming soon.
And pay attention because coming soon, we're going to announce another live show soon from another running store, which would be really cool. But okay. So the game sucked, but we need to get your opinion on a few things. right. Cardi B and Stefan digs are no more Erica. Tell us more.
Erika (06:43)
Mm-hmm. Sure.
Can I just say how much I don't care about this? So it's so funny. I watched your social media story today. You were out running and you were like, Eric is going to do all of this research. And I'm like, no, I'm not. Because I just don't care. I don't mind Cardi B, but I don't like her enough to dig into her love life. And I barely know Stefan Diggs. I don't, what do you want from me, man?
Eric (07:21)
But
did you read the reports that said they broke up in the middle of the game?
Erika (07:26)
No, I actually didn't see that, is crazy. so you put. I know, right? Like, that's how bad the game was, where they had to be like, hey, let's put the shit out and hopefully it'll it'll get some numbers. I don't know.
Eric (07:29)
I know, like focus on the game!
I know, it's like, hey, what
can we do to change the news cycle? Cardi B and Stefan broke up! The Patriots are losing 13 to nothing.
Erika (07:46)
But I did laugh. You posted a thing in our group chat, and it had to do with, like, this is why they lost you guys. And it was, the two of them bickering over social media. ⁓ god, it was so funny. And I was like, you know what? If that's not real, that's hilarious. But I guess it is real. I don't freaking know.
Eric (07:54)
in the comments section.
Right. It was so good. ⁓ what was your thought?
What was your thought on the halftime show? I need to get Erica's opinion here. Maybe we could have a segment called like Erica's take. Yes.
Erika (08:08)
Ugh.
Do people really care? I freaking
loved that halftime show. I thought it was so full of life and it was just vibes, man. The vibes were so high. I loved it. Did you catch all the celebrities who were hanging out and dancing too? Like Pedro Pascal, like Jessica Alba. There was a bunch of...
Eric (08:26)
Really?
Yeah. Well, no. Yeah, not, not during
the actual show. Like I need social media to tell me who that is.
Erika (08:38)
I could pick them out, but I was like, I know. Well, I knew a bunch of them, but it was still like, ⁓ sure.
Eric (08:43)
But let's talk about two things. One, Jessica
Elba and Ricky Martin have never aged. I know. Right. I want some of that water. I did not like the show. But I think the production probably was cool and I don't understand what goes into all that. But man, I just want, I want a rock show. I want ACDC with like
Erika (08:48)
gorgeous humans. Whatever they're doing, let us know because I need to know your skin care routine. Yes. How come?
Mm-hmm.
Don't say Kid Rock, don't you? No. well that's
different.
Eric (09:12)
I want Aerosmith
with, remember when Aerosmith did it? Greatest one of all time. was Aerosmith with Justin Timberlake, Britney Spears. They brought Nelly out and a couple of years ago, Bruno Mars. So I had no clue who Bad Bunny is. Never heard a song of his in my life, but he's really funny and happy Gilmore too. Like that's, that's what I know of him.
Erika (09:20)
Yeah.
Mm-hmm. So this is
just, it's celebrating other parts of our culture. Like it's not just white people.
Eric (09:37)
Erica, the last like four Super Bowls
have been music I don't listen to. Last year was Kendrick Lamar, never heard a Kendrick song. ⁓ The year before was Snoop Dogg, Dr. Dre, Eminem, like I knew those songs. The year before was Rihanna, like...
Erika (09:41)
I'm sorry, I don't know. Kendrick Lamar, I still really liked it. the vibes, man, it's all about vibes. Well, we grew up on that stuff. Yeah.
they choose them but hey once it's once it's on deck I'm I'm on board yeah I loved it I watch it again
Eric (09:59)
I need a change. I need a change. I need a change. I mean, I
read a couple of takes on the production and how hard that is to do during the daylight. So kudos to them for putting on a great show. The pros tell me like it was a phenomenal produced show, the dancing, the choreography and all that sound amazing. But guys, I just, and here's the tough part. I, that was super cool.
Erika (10:13)
Mm-hmm.
It was great!
real life wedding. Did you see that? It was awesome.
Yeah.
Eric (10:27)
And you hear the story,
they invited bad bunny to their wedding and he said, no, but will you get married at my show at the super bowl? That was super cool.
Erika (10:31)
Mm-hmm, and then he invited them. Yep. Yep. See, so you
do know about it. Like, that's just such a cool thing about it.
Eric (10:40)
I know, but I I
want like an actual concert. want like a rock concert. Like it just seems like everything's turning into a show. And, and I guess like, that's just the way it's becoming like Aerosmith's not going to show up next year and play. They're old. They're super old, but like, I loved, I liked the Bruno Mars one. I'm not like a big Bruno Mars guy, but he brought out the chili peppers. So yeah, they brought out Lady Gaga and Ricky Martin and that was kind of cool. I liked the surprises. ⁓
Erika (10:48)
Hey, it is the big show.
Hmm. Yeah, they are. ⁓
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Eric (11:09)
But I want more just a show of singing versus all the dancing and everything. And here's the thing I'm trying to get my like, it's so hard right now today to give your opinion. It's either you loved it or you hated it. And if you loved it, you're woke. If you hated it, you're a Trumper. And I'm like, I'm neither of those. I just want a rock show.
Erika (11:25)
Oh my God.
See, I totally understand how that is not everybody's type of music, especially if it's not in the language that you speak. It can be difficult to get into it, but it is such a vibe. Like you could just feel the energy and everybody was just like, it gives you a reason to dance. Like it just has soul to it. You know? I don't know. I'd still like to.
Eric (11:36)
I could've cared well yeah I would've liked some English but
Yeah, I'm going to have to play it again. Like
I've only watched the original take in its entirety. So I need to like watch it again. Like last year's with Kendrick, I felt probably the same way watching it live. And then I had to understand and everyone made all the memes and stuff. My favorite was a skiing and snowboarding comparison. It's like snowboarders like hopping and then Kendrick comes in like like a skier, you know, just like I've holes. I'm going to just scoot right by you.
Erika (11:52)
Well,
⁓ yeah, Yep.
Eric (12:14)
Still today I've never listened to a Kendrick song since then, but it also seemed like everybody was singing along to the Kendrick song or there's just that one line, I guess, where they all go, a minor. And I knew about the, the Drake and the Kendrick beef. I actually knew about that, but yeah. So it wasn't, I just want to show, I want a concert, man. That's what I want. And everyone has these hot takes and it's like, ⁓ he's a
Erika (12:28)
Uh-huh.
Nobody's got beef with bad bunny. Uh-uh. Nah.
There was a lot of symbolism
I read about it. The light posts that they were climbing, it's a message to say that their grid is just so outdated and they go through rolling blackouts regularly. It's just a neglected country. Social media, I scroll. That's not doom scrolling. No, honestly.
Eric (12:46)
With a sun-
How do you learn about that?
Right. You need that. You need the doom scroll to find that out. so we just need the scroll.
Erika (13:09)
I love my algorithm these days. It is wonderful and I don't want it to change. yeah, I am. Yes, it's great. Yes, I'm watching hockey players. Yeah, Olympics are on my list for sure.
Eric (13:12)
Well, because you're watching hockey players. Of course. It's a better sport than football. You gonna watch the Olympics?
I feel terrible
by the way for Lindsey Vonn. Terrible.
Erika (13:26)
my God. So I was sleeping. Well, obviously, like they're in Italy. So like, but I was sleeping and Brandon just goes, Ooh. And I go like, I rolled over and I was just like, what? And he's like, ⁓ Lindsay, Lindsay broke her leg. Like he's like going to through ESPN, like scrolling and stuff on his phone. And I'm just like, that sucks. Yeah. She dessert. Yeah. This was her, what's his, her last Olympics. I know she had the knee problems and she is, and that's why I'm so no.
Eric (13:42)
Yeah.
Well, I mean, come on, she's the goat. She's the goat. Why does it have to be her last?
Erika (13:55)
Well, thought she literally said that, but maybe not.
Eric (13:58)
Well, I mean, the way she went out this year, why not? You know, you got to go through recovery and get strong again. Just start skiing again in two years. Listen, I got this list here. Lindsay Vonn's injury history since 2007. Sprained ACL, severed tendon and right thumb, micro fractures in left forearm, broken right pinky, torn ACL and MCL in the right knee, and tibia plateau fracture in right leg, torn ACL, MCL sprain in right knee.
Erika (14:03)
is awful.
Sure.
Ooh, do I want to hear this?
Eric (14:28)
Broken ankle, multiple fractures in left knee, fractured, some word I can't say in her right arm, torn LCL and meniscus and left knee, three tribal plateau fractures. Whatever that word plateau, I don't know what that is. Impact injury to personal nerve and then this most recent torn ACL and left knee and now broken left leg. Guys.
Erika (14:40)
God, Lindsay.
⁓ God. That sounds
awful. She's been through so much, but she really is the goat. Like, she's amazing. Good. Let her. Good.
Eric (14:54)
She's going to come back. I'm calling it out right now. She's going to be in the Olympics
in four years and get redemption because she is the absolute goat. So Lindsey Vonn. Yes, me too. It's going to happen because you can't go out like this. You can't. You can't. Not done with the Super Bowl talk though. Real quick. What was your favorite commercial?
Erika (15:01)
Good. I want that. I want that for her. That's amazing. Sure. Right.
So there were some ones, like I was laughing a lot. Like one of them I really liked was the Ben Stiller and the ⁓ Benson Boone commercials where he's just doing backflips. like I kept seeing teasers for that like throughout the day and then they had like their big commercials. So that one made me laugh. But there was such a random one that was right up our alley. I'm watching it and all of a sudden you just see all these like singing toilets, like singing porta potty. Like, and I'm like, where is this going? Like, and then
Eric (15:44)
I missed that
one.
Erika (15:45)
They were singing like, a look at me now. And then all of a sudden it says, take a look at your pee. And it's for liquid IV. Just like, what did you do?
Eric (15:53)
no way.
You know, I remember the first time a PE teacher told us like the color of our P was important and I was like, what are you talking about? Right. But back then I was like, what? Like, dude, no.
Erika (15:58)
Take a look at your pee. Mm-hmm. I mean, it is. You got to be hydrated. If it's light, then you're hydrated. And my god. It
definitely caught my attention. And I was like waiting and waiting. Like, where is this going? you went there. OK. Yeah. How about you? What are your favorites?
Eric (16:17)
Right. Right.
Well, I talked about last episode, how these commercials were coming out and that bums me out because I like to see them and react while watching it. And so the Jurassic Park one, thought was great because I saw that before and I just love Jurassic Park. And when it came out, Tyler's like, rah rah. And Tyler actually starts to do that. Whatever the song is. I was actually, if he caught on, was humming their Top Gun.
Erika (16:29)
Yes.
the Xfinity, right?
really? ⁓ that's cute.
Eric (16:47)
by mistake, but so my favorite though was the polar bear and I don't like Pepsi. And I was kind of mad for a second. I was like, ⁓ they took the Coca-Cola bear. How dare they? And then they pulled up the Coldplay scene with the two bears and I was like, I was like, ha!
Erika (17:00)
you
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
You see what they did there.
Eric (17:09)
That was so good!
Erika (17:12)
my God. Yeah, there, there is a lot of good creativity with these commercials, but did you notice how many, like most of them were for AI and gambling? And I'm like, why don't promote gambling? I know you don't, but there's some people who do and you're like, Hmm. Yeah.
Eric (17:23)
Well, I don't pay attention to those ones as much because they're just not creative. It's just not create. Like you see,
I remember some Ashley going like, why'd they waste that kind of money on that commercial? And it was just a generic, whatever commercial. I'm like, I think that was just a local, something from the local feed. It's like, you know, you know, which ones are really for the Superbowl, like a Superbowl ad. So they were, you know, the ads, I heard the Budweiser one was good. I haven't seen it yet. I missed it.
Erika (17:35)
Mm-hmm.
Gotcha.
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Honestly, that one wasn't my favorite. I don't know. It was OK. It was OK.
Eric (17:53)
Okay. Well, it's a bummer they lost
us some team from Vancouver, because I guess that's Vancouver's team. But,
is it like...
Erika (18:03)
Can we talk for
a minute about the bet?
Eric (18:06)
No, I don't want to talk about the bet. I did not engage in the bet. I don't... No. ⁓
Erika (18:06)
But can I just?
Well, all I'm saying is that Jeremy slash Chad Alter's ass is safe for another day.
We're talking, he doesn't have to get a tattoo of Stooley, at least not on his butt, and at least not right now.
Eric (18:29)
He would not be
the first person to get his Dooley tattoo. Yeah. It's happened. Uh-huh.
Erika (18:32)
What? Are you serious?
Somebody already got one? Are you serious? Are you being so serious? my God. Who? It's not Jeremy. So who the hell would do that?
Eric (18:37)
coming soon. Yeah. You guys will know before Boston weeks. I promise. Yep.
Yeah,
it's too, Jeremy's too late. He's too late. He's too late. So yeah, too late. I told him, stop acting like you don't want one. Stop acting like you don't want one.
Erika (18:50)
⁓ no. Gauntlet's thrown.
He was looking for an
excuse, but then it just didn't work out. You're welcome to get a tattoo of Stooley anywhere on your body, whenever you like, Jeremy. You're welcome to. Yes, we got to get in our guest.
Eric (19:09)
last football comment and then you need to save this podcast and get us to move on. But the
Patriots have now lost the most Super Bowls ever. And that's something to be proud of.
Erika (19:21)
The last? How many?
Eric (19:23)
We've lost six, we've won six and lost six. So we're tied for the most wins ever and we're number one with most Super Bowl losses.
Erika (19:27)
huh.
We're
number one for being number two. Man I don't know if that's a
Eric (19:33)
They hate us because they ain't us.
Erika (19:40)
There we go. If you're happy, I'm happy, man.
Yes. Let's jump into our guest before we make people wait too long because they're probably like, where is this going? We have an amazing guest. I know we do have a running related guest here. You guys, we have the amazing Juliana Coughlin from the run a on the show today. We love her so much.
Eric (19:54)
Like I thought this is a running podcast.
EEEE
Erika (20:06)
and we are so excited that we got a chance to talk to her. And I hope you guys have already listened. We were on her podcast too. So did you check us out on that? Yeah.
Eric (20:13)
Yeah, back in December, it was fun.
did like this one night of two different things and we made sure not to talk about the same thing. It was pretty cool. But this one, we learned more about the Cape Cod marathon, which I'm really excited to go to not this year, but next year, because it'll be the 50th anniversary. And they got these really cool challenges where you, we talked about this before, like you run, yeah, or the lobster challenge.
Erika (20:20)
Yes.
The Chowda. Chowda challenge.
We're so excited. Yeah, sign me up for the challenge. Anything challenge related, I'm in.
Eric (20:45)
Yeah. So guys enjoy this. We'll see you on the other side and talk actual running, football, but that's it for football talking to the next time the Patriots in the Superbowl, but enjoy Juliana from the run a podcast on the on the runs podcast.
Eric (21:04)
Our next guest on the pod is a marathoner for the Cape who has one star to go in her six star journey. And she's hoping to accomplish that soon when she runs London later this year. She has a massive shoe collection and outside of talking about shoes all day, she's the host of the Runnah podcast. We are wicked excited to have Juliana Coughlin on the On the Runs podcast. What's up Juliana?
Julianna (21:23)
I like the use of wicked there, that was very Massachusetts, I approve of that. ⁓
Erika (21:25)
you
Eric (21:27)
Very New England, which is ⁓ New Hampshire, Maine, Vermont, Massachusetts, and Rhode Island.
Erika (21:29)
Yeah
Julianna (21:31)
Right.
Erika (21:32)
Not Connecticut.
Julianna (21:35)
okay.
Why ⁓ is Connecticut not allowed in?
Eric (21:39)
Connecticut, yeah, we didn't make the rules. All I understand is when Boston, New York play in a game, loser gets Connecticut.
Erika (21:39)
I didn't make the rule.
Julianna (21:42)
⁓
Yeah. Oh, okay. It is always interesting to me how... Okay, yeah, I have friends who live in Connecticut too. Like, I'm just like, I don't understand. But you know what? Again, we do not make the rules and it is what it is, you know? It's just like, why is it a rotary and not a roundabout or a traffic circle? I don't make the rules.
Eric (21:49)
Yeah. So.
Erika (21:50)
This is news to me,
I have a lot of friends from there.
Eric (21:58)
You
Exactly.
love you already.
Erika (22:09)
You had me at the six star journey and also the shoe collection. So welcome, Julianna We're so happy to have you.
Julianna (22:14)
Yeah.
Well, I'm excited to be here. You know, I feel like this is a long time coming and then hopefully you guys will come down to run the Falmouth Road Race at some point soon and we can really. Yeah, well, you guys names in the
Eric (22:23)
Do you have an in? We'd love to run that race. We'll podcast live, we'll do what we have to do.
Falmouth, the Cape is cool. We've been a couple of times. I was there this past last summer and for dance competition and I was like, my God, traffic and everything. I hate the Cape. But after you leave, I'm like, the Cape's not that bad anymore. I like the Cape, but.
Julianna (22:36)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Erika (22:40)
you
Julianna (22:43)
Well, I'm gonna give you some insider tips. You want to come like the beginning of May or like the end of September because the weather is really nice then, but all the people are gone. Off season. Resident summer as we call it.
Erika (22:51)
off season. That's the way. The last time I went,
Eric (22:51)
Yeah.
Erika (22:55)
the last time I went, I did the hyanas half, but that was in like February or March. And that's not the time to go. It was so frigid and cold and windy. And I would much rather go on the nice weather.
Julianna (23:01)
⁓ no. Yuck, no. No, no, no, no, no.
Yeah, like, I don't want to, like, besmirch the name of any races here, but, that weather, that race is, like, one, the course is just kind of ugly. And, like, it's never, it's always a really, really terrible weather day in the middle of February, or it used to be in January for a while, too. Like, yeah, I'm-
Erika (23:15)
you
Mm-hmm. Yep. Was not my favorite. I blame Rachel.
Julianna (23:26)
Don't, don't, yeah don't run it. That's a lot, unless you really like that type of weather and you're really like, like, aching for a hurting, like, meh. Maybe go run like an ultra or a trail race instead. That could, you could see prettier things and you'd still get the same level of pain that you're yearning for, you know?
Erika (23:42)
That's the spirit. Yep.
Eric (23:43)
Are you a local cape-cotter? Like, did you, were you born and raised in the cape? Or are you like, did you move to the cape later and if you did, why?
Julianna (23:43)
Mm-hmm.
I'm a transplant. I'm definitely I'm a wash ashore as we call people like myself here. I am I grew up in Auburn, which is next to Worcester in Massachusetts. So if you put like your finger directly in the middle of Massachusetts, that's like pretty much where it is. But I moved here for a job. Worcester. Yeah, Worcester or Worcester Worcestershire. If you're if you're going to get spicy about it. ⁓
Eric (24:02)
Okay.
War Chesta to the non-New Englanders.
Julianna (24:16)
But yeah, no, I moved here about in 2017. So like eight years ago, give or take.
But so I've been here for a while. I now am part of the like the threads and the and everything that is Falmouth. Essentially, the town now owns my soul. moved down here for a dietitian job. Because at that point, I was working full time in nursing homes as a dietitian, which I did for eight years. And then kind of to the VA and then realized it was sucking the life out of my soul and said, No, thank you. I think I'm good.
⁓ and have since moved on to doing like social media and contracting work and things like that. So it's a lot better for mental health.
Eric (24:53)
That's so cool.
Erika (24:55)
Yes, yes. So you've definitely made your mark. You're not going anywhere for a while, because I know that in addition to your job, you do a lot with the Cape Cod Marathon too, don't you?
Julianna (25:05)
Yeah, so I, one of my jobs actually is being the social media manager slash tech person for the Cape Cod Marathon. There are three people who are at the helm of the Cape Cod Marathon. We have Jack, our race director. We have Kathy, our race admin. And then we have Juliana who does everything else. So.
Erika (25:24)
I applaud you for that. Those are not easy jobs.
Julianna (25:26)
Yeah, we have a lot of fun doing it. It's my favorite, like the Cape Cod Marathon like truly is my passion and same with Jack and Kathy as well too. And you can really see it in, if you come and run our races, which you guys should definitely come and run It's a nice time it's a lot of fun doing that. And I love being the social media person because I've kind of cemented myself in as that like.
Erika (25:39)
Putting it on my list.
Julianna (25:47)
The one person, I'm like the public face of the Cape Cod Marathon essentially. And that one person during race weekend that people know that they can come up to and I'm a friendly, kind face. And like, if I don't know how to solve your problem, I know the person who can. So people are not afraid to ask questions, which is great. That's exactly the way we want it. ⁓ We had a ton of people who approached myself, Cathy and Jack last October for our past Cape Cod Marathon saying how they just felt more prepared than for any other race that they run.
Erika (26:00)
Perfect.
Julianna (26:17)
and they didn't feel nervous at all because they just had all of the information that they needed because we try and like, like we do a video, a written format, an audio format, like if you have a like a way that you like to learn information, we have got you covered, you know. It's a nice time. Yeah.
Erika (26:32)
Incredible. I love that.
Eric (26:36)
How did you meet Jack and Cathy because you're a transplant, as you said? How do you even get involved in their running community in the Cape? Is it a big running community or is it more just like the Falmouth community you're in?
Julianna (26:40)
Yeah.
yeah.
No, no, no, no, no. Like the found with running community, the found with community on the whole is a walking running community. Like you can go out even now and probably like walk like a solid like under half a mile and find like under like five to six people even right now in the dark and the cold who are running or walking outside. There's it. Yeah. no, there's a very, very, very active walking running community here.
Erika (27:03)
Well, that's impressive. Motivation year round.
Julianna (27:12)
year-round and I actually I met Kathy and Jack because the Cape Cod Marathon was my first marathon I ever ran. ⁓ Solely because I chose it out of very practical smart reasons. It was it starts down the street from where I live and I said this is what I want I don't have to pay for a hotel room I can sleep in my own bed and that I did not know what the course looked like which was maybe not the smartest idea because we revised the course since but it used to be like really hilly.
Eric (27:25)
Yes.
Julianna (27:39)
And like for our first marathon, I've not come across another marathon that I've run that's, and I run, so I run the old course all the time now when I'm preparing for hard races. So it's not an easy course in any capacity. And I definitely chose a challenging race from a running perspective. From the logistics perspective though, it was like a 10 out of 10. I walked to the starting line. It was a real nice time when I walked back.
Erika (27:50)
boy.
Mm-hmm.
Julianna (28:08)
And that was nice. But the thought process kind of ended with that. And that was kind of it. But like running the Cape Cod Marathon was the thing that like really, because I had been running the local races for about a year at that point. And I had run my first half marathon like two years ago at that point when I was living in Richmond, Virginia, which highly recommend the Richmond, Virginia half marathon and possibly the full marathon. Fabulous event. Loved it. 10 out of 10. But
I was like, I want to run a marathon, because I run the half marathon up here. And I saw the people who were running the marathon. I was like, I want that. And so I signed up for it. And this is the thing that just fully cemented me in. Because when you run the Cape Cod Marathon, and I like to say we've retained this now ⁓ out of selfish reasons and also because we have the feedback we got this year, you get adopted into a family. And that's like,
Eric (28:59)
Yeah.
Erika (28:59)
Aww.
Julianna (29:00)
the exact vibe that I felt. I felt like so cared for and so just like everyone really wanted me to succeed and that if I needed something, there was someone like immediately right there helping me out. It was just like a warm inviting vibe that like that's what really cemented in for me that I was like, I love the Falmouth running community. I will stay here forever. You can't get rid of me. My ghost will haunt these streets. He he he he he.
Eric (29:23)
When is the marathon, by the way? Is this a spring marathon? ⁓ wait, it's October. ⁓ yes, yes, Chicago weekend, same as Chicago. Yeah, so for everybody who didn't get in the lottery for Chicago, sign up for ⁓ Cape Cod.
Julianna (29:28)
No, it's fall. It's Indigenous Peoples Weekend.
Yeah, that's the, that's.
Yeah,
yeah we actually, I would say sign up now because one, registration is open when this comes out and two, we actually ended up selling out for the first time ever, sold out all of our distances last year. So.
Eric (29:47)
No way.
Erika (29:50)
news.
Eric (29:51)
So what happens
on Cape Cod Marathon Day? Is it like a marathon, a half, and a 5k or a relay?
Julianna (29:56)
Yeah, so it's the whole weekend and the half marathon itself is on Saturday, which is our most popular distance. We have around like 2,200 runners running the half marathon and that happens on the Saturday. And then Sunday we have about the same amount of people collectively between the full marathon and the relay and then the 5k that happened on the Sunday. We also have the lobster challenge and the chowder challenge. The lobsters, the 5k plus the half marathon.
Eric (30:06)
No way.
Julianna (30:25)
The chowder is the, and these are both spelled with ⁓ at the end. So that way you know that this is authentic to Massachusetts. No one is offended here. The chowder is the full marathon and the half marathon back to back days, which I've done twice, which is a lot of fun.
Eric (30:29)
Yes.
Erika (30:30)
Beautiful.
Eric (30:40)
I
love this. Yeah.
Erika (30:40)
gonna ask you about that. I love me a good challenge. So that's right up my alley. Chowda, chowda.
Julianna (30:43)
Yeah, so you get when you finish
it you get a chowder mug and you get a spoon and the spoon is full-size and it has 39.3 etched into it so you can use it to eat your chowder and taste all 39.3 miles in every bite. It's a lot of fun.
Erika (30:52)
No way!
Eric (30:55)
That's so cool.
What was the lobster challenge?
Julianna (31:01)
That's the half marathon on Saturday and then the 5k on Sunday. We had just introduced that this year, this past year, and it sold out. So we're...
Eric (31:09)
What do you get for
running a lobster chow? I love me some lobster. I can't do clam chowder actually, I'm allergic.
Julianna (31:13)
So.
Erika (31:14)
You got to wear like
the lobster costume and get all festive.
Julianna (31:16)
We had,
Eric (31:17)
I would
Julianna (31:18)
you should, so one thing that happened this year that was really funny that we were not anticipating, so Cathy thought it was funny to get like a piece of lobster gear. So she went on Amazon and she got a lobster ugly sweater. And so we put this in our Cape Cod Marathon 101 like video slash podcast episode and people watch that. That's like my most popular episode of the year because we have like four to five thousand people like at a baseline.
Eric (31:19)
for the 5K, for the 5K.
Right.
Yeah.
Julianna (31:44)
who
are pretty much ready to watch this video as soon as it comes out. And plus any insularity people and people rewatching it. So all these people watch it. The Saturday of the day of the half marathon and the day before, we saw so many ugly lobster sweaters and ugly starfish sweaters. And I was like, Cathy, are you seeing this? She's like, yeah. I was like, we didn't tell anyone to dress up like this. She's like, no. ⁓
Erika (32:09)
you
Julianna (32:09)
Plus I wore
it on our social media too, because she gave me hers because it was kind of like a really shoddy quality and she bought a better quality one. And I was like, I'll wear it. And I wore it announcing as well too. And so there's pictures of me in this sweater and people just wore these sweaters. I was like, we have to have a contest next year. Like we have to have an ugly sweater contest, like a sea creature ugly sweater contest. Like people are already itching for it, clearly.
Erika (32:16)
you
you guys.
⁓ I had no idea those existed.
Julianna (32:38)
But you didn't.
Eric (32:38)
What's... It's incredible.
What is the whole weekend like? Because this isn't just like a one-day event. You make it into a weekend.
Julianna (32:44)
No. Well,
it's it's Julianna's Christmas. Like this is my favorite weekend of the entire year. That's exactly what it is. Yeah, no, I you would never guess. You would never know. But it's I love the Cape. I love the Cape Cod Marath. It's just like it's the intersection of all the things that like make me so happy about living here in Falmouth. It's that like
Erika (32:49)
You don't say.
You're literally glowing on camera right now. Like, I'm just watching you and I'm like,
Julianna (33:08)
because you really feel the whole community just come out. And for a smaller marathon, we're like a mid-size small marathon. We have like 4,000 people collectively across the whole weekend. It's big enough, but you wouldn't think of it. And we're also directly competing with Chicago. That's the thing, too. It's not like it's on a random weekend where there's no other marathons happening. We have a very good world marathon major, I would say.
Eric (33:20)
That's that's big. It's it's big for New England.
Julianna (33:37)
⁓ that we're competing up against as well too. So you wouldn't think...
Eric (33:40)
but at the same time,
it's a great destination marathon if you didn't get into Chicago.
Julianna (33:45)
yeah.
And that's why we moved it to Indigenous Peoples Weekend too, because it used to happen on Halloween. And then we moved it to that weekend so that way people would be more tempted to make a weekend getaway out of it. And then we have like the kids run that also happens on Sunday as well too. ⁓ We just started our extra mile finish line zone thing, which we had like a photo bus. We have our PR bell, which is a legitimate ship spell. It is so freaking loud. ⁓ It is really heavy.
Erika (33:52)
⁓
Eric (33:57)
Yeah.
Erika (34:10)
Whoa.
Julianna (34:14)
And you can hear that the Falmouth Rovers, if you guys are on the Falmouth Rovers, we loan it to them for the weekend and they leave it on the field at the finish line as well too. But this thing is like so loud. ⁓ Cause it's meant to be on a ship where you're like signaling a lighthouse. And it's like, it will shatter your brain with how loud it is, but it's great. But we have like food trucks that we brought in, like all these like little, we have like balloon animals, we had face painting this year for the kids. Like we have a mess.
Erika (34:41)
And this is all post-marathon,
like post-race, like all this fun stuff for... How incredible. That sounds like so much fun.
Julianna (34:44)
Yeah, this is at the finish line area. Yeah. Yeah.
Eric (34:49)
We'll let-
Julianna (34:49)
We like a cupcake truck this year.
Eric (34:52)
No way. All right, let's go like Friday. What happens on Friday? This has now turned into like a long ad for the Cape Cod Marathon. ⁓ What happens on Friday? I'm assuming you have an expo day. People show up early, they get everything, because the half marathon is on Saturday, probably starts early.
Julianna (34:57)
This is a Cape Cod Marathon promotion podcast.
Yeah.
Yeah,
yeah we have. So we actually do have day of bib pickup which is great. So Friday is the expo from three to seven and we have a bunch of vendors that come in. We have a couple like marathon sports is there. We have, ⁓ yeah there we go, repping marathon sports. We love it. So there there we have some other vendors, some other local vendors that come in that have like their own. We have a woman who does her own sportswear.
Erika (35:26)
There we go, yeah.
Julianna (35:34)
that's like ethically sourced and stuff like that. We have like our gear. People come in, they get their shirt. Because if you run your, the basic things you get are a shirt and a medal along with your bib. So you get the medal obviously when you're finished, you get the shirt when you pick up your bib. And Friday is lobster challenge pick up, chowder challenge pick up.
and half marathon pickup. And then that also translates into the next morning. People are just getting excited. This is where we saw the majority of our ugly sweaters, which hopefully we'll see again next year. And just getting to interact with all the runners. We're setting up the starting and the finish line. Cause we start and finish at the Mullen Hall School in Falmouth, which is an elementary school. It's got this really cool like circular kind of driveway thing that works perfectly.
For our starting finish line area, it's great. We set up everything else on the field that's right next to it. It's a great setup. This is our third year doing it there, and it's been like 10 out of 10 all three years. And the Mullen Hall kids love, and the teachers love that we do it. They do a relay team on Sunday. It's great. We have a nice time. So we picked that up. Everyone's getting hyped up. We just started partnering with Shipwrecked this year, which is our presenting sponsor, which is a restaurant here in Falmouth. ⁓
Erika (36:48)
nice.
Julianna (36:49)
If you guys have ever been to the Falmouth Rail Race finish line, I don't know if you have or not. Okay, well, it's free to enter the lottery, so I would suggest entering the lottery. It's a nice time. Yes, it's the hottest weekend August has to offer, and you will turn into a fried egg on the sidewalk.
Erika (36:53)
Mm-mm. Yes.
Eric (36:53)
We're not that fortunate yet.
I think I'm going to, that's in August, right? Yeah.
Wait, that compete,
Erica, that compete against ADU?
Erika (37:12)
I don't know what date is it in August.
Julianna (37:13)
I think it's like the 17th or the 18th or the 16th, it's usually. Okay, yeah, so you could do it. It's a lot of fun. I will also say like in, like if you're really interested in the Falmouth Roe Brace, usually you can get in with a charity and you have to fundraise under $1,000. So it's not like a crazy bananas amount of money either. It's not like trying to fundraise for Boston where you're trying to fundraise like $15,000 and it feels like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I will save that for Juliana's hot takes. ⁓
Eric (37:16)
That's after ADU. Yeah, sweet.
Erika (37:16)
does not.
Unreal. Unreal.
Eric (37:34)
I know, it's insane. We can talk about that later.
Yes!
Erika (37:43)
Ooh,
Eric (37:44)
You read the notes!
Erika (37:44)
we love that.
Julianna (37:45)
I have,
I will roast the Boston Mar- I've talked, I know Dave McGilvery, I know like half the staff who work there. I will roast the shit out of that race because like I just have so many negative experiences with that race that I'm just like, I can't. But regardless, moving on. Yeah, yeah, this is Cape Cod Mar- So everyone's getting hyped up with shipwrecks, they're bringing some pasta specials to their restaurant. They have these giant open windows that open directly out to the ocean.
Eric (37:53)
Alright, alright, we'll save it.
Erika (37:56)
⁓
Eric (37:59)
We'll save it, we'll save it. Yeah, we're gonna keep pumping the tires for Cape Cod right now though, this is great.
Julianna (38:12)
They're right on the beach. It's a fabulous restaurant. Our course passes it twice for both of the bigger distances. ⁓ But they do like a pasta special. People are going over there. They're getting drinks. The half marathon people, as you guys know, they're a little bit more like floozy when it comes to like, am I going to drink the night before? Am I not? So like people are going over there. know, they're having a nice time. ⁓ And so then they show up the next morning. We have bib pick up in the morning.
Erika (38:32)
Mm-hmm.
Julianna (38:37)
Race starts at 8 a.m. I sing the national anthem and I announce the finish line. Yeah, it's a lot of fun. It's interesting for me, because this is my third year of doing the social media plus the finish line plus the national anthem. People connecting the dots that I'm the same person and watching that like dot connection happen in real time in front of my face is very interesting. No.
Eric (38:42)
Whoa!
Erika (38:42)
That's awesome.
Eric (38:56)
Yeah.
You're not a triplet.
Julianna (39:04)
The people, well, because people don't, they hear my voice and like because when you're announcing a finish line, you're kind of off to the side largely in a tent because you need like the computer or an iPad to see who's coming across the finish line farther away. Sometimes, especially with the weather, we had this past K-pop Marathon Sunday day with that nor'easter that blew through. I was under the tent like most of the time. So.
Erika (39:11)
Mm.
Eric (39:11)
Yeah.
Julianna (39:28)
I like people don't see my face, they hear my voice and then my voice obviously you guys know your voice sounds a little bit different on like social media or on your phone or whatever than it does in person or across a PA system being broadcast. I own found with Main Street the whole weekend. People like I heard your voice Julie. I'm like, yeah, you did good, right? That's what the PA system is working. Yeah, that means our PA system was hooked up and correctly wired. That's great. We love it. 10 out of 10 on that one as well too.
Eric (39:46)
You
Erika (39:46)
That's
the that's good thing. Yes
Julianna (39:55)
⁓ But yeah, people are very funny about it. They'll be like, you're the social media, and you did the, ⁓ and then they, I'm like, uh-huh. Hello, friends. Nice to see you.
Eric (40:03)
Yeah. What screws me up about
talking on a mic is hearing your voice delayed after I, the whole weirdness thing of hearing my voice doesn't bug me anymore, but hearing it after like two seconds delayed, I'm like, that's weird. It's messing me up. But we were just actually asked to MC a race in Rhode Island. ⁓ last year we couldn't do it because I was running in a little race the same weekend called New York city marathon.
Julianna (40:09)
huh.
Yeah.
Ooh, fun.
Eric (40:29)
But I was like, this is so cool and I'm going to mess up so many names if I ever do it. How is, how much fun is that announcing all the names, all the finishers and trying to get them right? Yeah.
Julianna (40:29)
yeah, yeah, yeah, small race.
I mess up so many names. I
mess up so many names. People like, I will tell you though, the enthusiasm, if you're enthusiastic about it, people will excuse you for mispronouncing any name. They don't care. As long as you get like kind of close, they're like, you're fine. It's okay. There's also like, I try and announce first and last names so that way people know that it's them. But.
Erika (41:02)
Yep,
yep.
Julianna (41:03)
Yeah, inevitably, largely in the half marathon, not as much in the full marathon for the amount of runners that we have. I go to a first names only basis for a solid 15 minutes because between two hours and two hours and 15 minutes, I would say at least 20 to 30 % of the runners are all coming through with that one 15 to 20 minute time block. Just because it's such an average like,
Erika (41:12)
Gotcha.
Yup.
Julianna (41:30)
doably average, also goal pace for a lot of people, time frame. People are trying to break two, or they're trying to hit a round two, or they just naturally are falling in that two to two 15 range because it's kind of like a more everyday runner average pace, give or take, like nine to 10 minute miles on a race day. So we go to first names only basis at that point.
Erika (41:33)
Mm, mm-hmm.
Eric (41:48)
Yeah. Yeah.
Erika (41:52)
I
feel like if I were gonna do some announcing, I'd try to have some fun. Like, you know that Key and Peele skit from like a while back? Like, A-A Ron. Where to go A-A Ron? Jaqueline? ⁓
Julianna (41:57)
Yeah!
I, that's what happens when we get to like the,
Eric (42:01)
Yeah.
Julianna (42:04)
the end of the marathon turns into that because that's when I get out into the finish line shoot. Cause then I have someone coming through like once every one or two or even three or four or five minutes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like repeating the shoot. What?
Erika (42:12)
yeah, so you get to actually interact a little bit more and have more fun with it. So okay, that's the way to do it.
Eric (42:17)
You know what you should do? You should,
you know what you should do? Mike Riley, who is the voice of Iron Man, he always would be like, like he'd be like, Juliana, you are an Iron Man. Like when you have it spread out, you can have some fun. You could be like, Erica, you are a runner. You're a marathon runner. Yeah.
Julianna (42:23)
Aha, okay.
Erika (42:24)
⁓
Julianna (42:30)
yeah.
I'll run, yeah. Well, so I do that. And then I'll also do like the pew, pew, pew, pew, pew. And I'll talk,
I think people ask me to come back because I'll talk to the audience when I'm, and I like, I'm just an unhinged human. And so I'll say like unhinged things and just like pleasantly unhinged. Like I was talking to the people who were spectating after everyone left. And when people leave, I say, I miss you so much. I love you lots. Come back. I'll miss you already. Or like, I'll tell them I can't love them till they're gone or I'll kick them out or like things like that.
Eric (42:45)
Yeah.
Erika (42:48)
You
Julianna (43:06)
And I was talking, yeah, or like this year, there were so many people who were like in the, who were like just were taking their time. Cause it's chip time. So like it's when you cross the finish line and then the starting line. So, you know, you don't have to be in the first corral to get like the best time. So people were kind of taking their time in the Porter Party this year. I was like, this is the last call. If you are in the Porter Party, get out of the Porter Party. Come on, my friend. It's time to get going. Get your bum across the starting line. Come on, let's go.
Erika (43:06)
How can I miss you if you won't go away?
Mm.
Eric (43:18)
Yeah.
Erika (43:34)
I
know it's nice and warm in there, but you gotta get going.
Julianna (43:34)
Here we go, it's time to start.
Eric (43:37)
Yeah. Sounds like an,
Julianna (43:37)
Yeah, I do in that.
Eric (43:40)
it sounds like an epic weekend. It's missing one thing, just one thing. And that's a live podcast, either on Friday or Saturday.
Julianna (43:43)
What is that? Is that you guys going to run it?
So we did a live episode of Frank Shorter actually, because he lives in town. And so he comes to sell his book every marathon weekend. And I see Frank, and Frank's like, hey, what's going on? What's going on, Frank? And so we just have a night. He's just kind of there. He's a funny dude. And so we did a little live recording with him. But if you guys wanted to come down and be part of it, you totally can. I'm trying to get more live stuff. We just don't have a good.
Eric (43:51)
Okay.
Heck yeah!
Julianna (44:16)
The problem is, like we don't, people aren't used to it and there's not like a stage in the gym that we're in. Like the old gym we were in had a stage. So we need to like, I need to talk to Cathy about setting up. Cause I want to do more live content and entertainment there anyway. So when I get that figured out, like, you guys can totally come down and do some kind of like thing. Same spot. Yep. Same spot. Yeah.
Erika (44:33)
Give us a call.
Eric (44:34)
Is the start and finish line in the same area? Right there. Put us right on the finish line. We'll get everyone after
they cross the finish line. Come on the pod, talk to us, tell us how it is, how is the course.
Julianna (44:44)
Yeah, well, if I that'd
be great. That'd be great. Because like I wish I had more of me because like my dream. So this is like the last two years, like I've gotten in with like the community TV station around here. You know, like we have formed connections. We're live streaming the finish line now. Like it's great. I set that up myself. Eventually, I'd like to do a whole broadcast around it where like we send it. I'll be at the start. Like I'll send people off and I'll be like, OK, everyone, we just send everyone off. Let's report back to Juliana.
Eric (44:56)
Yeah.
Yeah.
Julianna (45:13)
She's at mile six of the marathon and she's reporting live. Like this is what I want to do. Like this is like we, yeah. Yeah.
Eric (45:13)
Yes. Yeah. We can do this. We actually have the ability. We did,
Erika (45:18)
you
Eric (45:21)
so we did four live shows last year, three that were at races and the last two we live streamed, just live streamed our recording part, you know, and everyone on YouTube or the Facebook page can go and watch it. It was super fun. We're learning and we got more to go this year, but no, the Cape Cod Marathon sounds like an epic, epic time.
Julianna (45:42)
Yeah, we're always looking to improve things, you know? We came away from it. This was objectively and subjectively our best marathon ever. That has ever happened. Money-wise, participation-wise, feedback-wise, satisfaction-wise, we won best marathon in the state. Boston is not included in this. So we beat out Bay State, which is great. So we came out swinging and we came out winning this year.
Erika (46:02)
Yeah.
Eric (46:03)
Yeah!
Julianna (46:10)
Like Cathy and Jack and I sat down, we're like, what can we do better next year? Like we were like, this is very nice. And we're very happy. Everyone had a nice time, but we all were like, okay, this is going to get better and this could get better and this could get better. We're always like, we're never happy with like just letting things be as they are. We're always thinking about ways that we can, plus like after this year. So this is going to be our 49th year. The year after that is the 50th and Cathy and I are already planning. Like we're buying like a glitter background and we're making sure the sweatshirts, cause if you volunteer, you get a sweatshirt, which are very nice. I have many volunteer sweatshirts, it's a nice time.
Eric (46:14)
Right.
Erica,
you're not running Chicago on the 50th year. Okay.
Julianna (46:41)
In 2027.
Erika (46:41)
I actually am not. I am not
because I'm taking a year off because I want to run the 50th Chicago. So that's the year after that.
Eric (46:51)
Because
Julianna (46:52)
as of 2028.
Eric (46:53)
as we're talking about this, Juliana, I'm thinking, wait, Erica won't be there because she'll be in Chicago this fall.
Erika (46:57)
Nope.
Julianna (46:58)
Yeah.
Erika (46:59)
This fall, yes, because I'm already signed up for Chicago. But 2027, I am taking a Chicago year off. I got in, so I've. ⁓ I am 100%.
Eric (47:05)
You should run the 50th. You're to do the Chowder Challenge.
Julianna (47:05)
and then you can come, yeah.
Yeah, for the 50th Cape Cod
Marathon, you can do the Chata Challenge. yeah, if all things go to plan, the mug will probably be gold. ⁓ Kathy and I are like really coming in swing on this like gold, silver, glitter, kind of like flashy showy. Like everything is like gonna be, yeah, yeah, the better. More glitter, we need more glitter.
Erika (47:13)
I'm going to save the date.
The more glitter the better. The better, the better. Glitter the better.
Eric (47:32)
⁓
lock us in for the 50th. Maybe I'll make an appearance. Maybe I can get Tara Taradactyl to come down with, well, we'll see if she's running Chicago. She doesn't know yet, but my God, so cool. I know, I know, I know. Well, yeah, and I know it's, yeah, I know it's a year and a half away, but like planning starts.
Julianna (47:42)
Yeah, I mean that's like a year, that's almost two full years in advance right now and like...
Erika (47:46)
We'll all go
for the, we love a good anniversary year. Let's do the 2027.
Julianna (47:49)
Yeah,
it's a nice time.
Eric (47:55)
Like we talked to Dave, we talked to many race directors and race planners, planning for these races don't start the day after the race. They actually start months before the upcoming race for the following year. Like the Boston Marathon starts planning 14 months in advance.
Julianna (47:56)
yeah.
yeah.
Mm-hmm.
yeah.
Yeah, that sounds about right. we're probably closer to like 13 to 12. But pretty much as soon as like we kind of take like a down week. Like Cathy and I and Jack, triage everyone. We make sure the pictures are out. We make sure that anyone needs anything. Like if you need a medal sent to you, you need a shirt sent to you, you need to exchange a shirt. Like you've got your race results are messed up. Whatever it is. And I'm like mass reposting everyone's results. I spent like
Erika (48:11)
Mmm.
Eric (48:30)
Right.
Julianna (48:38)
So the Saturday, the Sunday is the full marathon day and I pretty much show up to the starting line at seven. ⁓ And I stayed there till the final finisher and that was like 3.45 this year. And then I went home for two and a half hours and answered everyone because I had my phone in my pocket. Like I'm not like answering or reposting anything. So I reposted social media stuff from like that point till like 6.30 p.m. And then I was just my brain was a ball of frickin mush because like I had been turned. I was like
Eric (48:54)
Yeah.
Julianna (49:08)
in like social turned on Juliana pretty much from like Thursday night to that point and I like fell down and I fell asleep and I was like I'm done for now and then I woke up the next morning I did it again but you know I was like after I finished that I was like you know what I think I'll be good on my 50 miler I think I'll be fine like this was an endurance test in its own you know we're good
Erika (49:12)
Mmm.
You
Eric (49:18)
It's awesome.
Erika (49:24)
Right.
Eric (49:27)
Right.
Listen, I don't know why, listen, I don't know why you're a dietitian. You should be a salesperson.
Erika (49:28)
I don't blame you for wanting to crash.
Julianna (49:34)
I mean for the Cape Cod Marathon I'm definitely a salesperson because the problem is too is that like we have so many distances in so many ways that you can be involved that people like I don't want to run a marathon I was like how about a 5k how about a half marathon do you want to volunteer? Why?
Eric (49:37)
Yeah.
Erika (49:37)
Yeah.
Eric (49:47)
Yeah. Right.
Yeah. it's.
Erika (49:50)
for everyone, let's go. No excuses.
Julianna (49:53)
Which is like how
we get the whole community in too, because like we have the people who are like, well, I don't want to run a full marathon. It's like, great, how about a half? How about like you do a relay team? Like we have a lot of like companies and groups around town who do the relay. And it's like, do you want to do a relay? Like if you're a Found With Running Club member, you can be free. You're free, you can be part of the relay. Or maybe you can volunteer. Yeah. I mean, they're really like genuinely like if you are a person.
Erika (50:10)
Hmm. See, how can they say no? There really is something for everyone.
Julianna (50:19)
who like has some, like we even have like, there's a school on the Cape called the Riverview School, which is for really developmentally challenged kids. I actually work one-on-one with one of them as one of my jobs. And like, they send a relay team with us every year and their teachers come and run it with them. And then they'll have a volunteer group that comes in. unless you're like, you really have a reason to not be part of that weekend, which I fully like respect and validate.
You can come be part of the weekend and it's fun. Everyone comes away from it. You get like even volunteer, you get a sweatshirt, you get free chowder and soup. We have Steven Bird who does like five different types of soup. We have a vegan chowder, a regular chowder, a corn chowder. We have a minestrone soup usually. We have usually one other like gluten free soup that he makes like off the cuff. This guy works for the quarter deck in town. Like he's like a great chef. This is one of the best restaurants in town. It's a nice time. You get free food, you get a free sweatshirt.
You just gotta stand out in the cold for like so many hours, we don't like we have fun. It's a nice time, you know
Erika (51:22)
And
you can prepare for that, just wear layers, they're fine.
Julianna (51:24)
Yeah,
Eric (51:25)
Yeah.
Julianna (51:25)
it was funny too. One of the funniest things we had happen this year, honestly we didn't have any negative feedback about, which is great, because we had that Nor'easter blow through on the Sunday. And it was legit. I was out in it the entire time. People were texting and messaging and emailing and DMing us the couple days before. The day before, not so much really, because Cathy and I were triaging and people were like,
my gosh, I can't, my first marathon or like people were, we had one woman who was like, are you gonna change the day of the marathon from the Sunday to the Saturday? We were like, absolutely fucking not. Like, do you understand anything about the schematics of planning anything? Like, that's not happening. And they were from Florida. I was like, okay, fine, whatever. I understand, like you're not used to this weather, whatever. And.
Erika (52:06)
Mm-hmm.
You
Julianna (52:15)
we had like Kathy and I were having conversations and I was talking to people directly and like also on the finish line announcing area. I was like, yeah, isn't it crazy that like I'm going to be out here even longer than you are? Or like our volunteers are just like, they're really wacko because they're just doing this for a free sweatshirt. And they're going to be out there already out there and they're going to be out there way longer than you are if you're running this. Like isn't that just like crazy? And people are like, oh yeah, yeah, maybe I should maybe not complain about this. And like maybe I chose to be here.
Eric (52:28)
⁓ Yeah.
Julianna (52:44)
I'm like, yes, maybe you should not complain about it, maybe you chose to be here. If you don't wanna be here, you don't have to be here. And also our volunteers literally are crazy and they're doing this for a free sweatshirt. Thank you so much.
Eric (52:44)
You
Yeah. Yeah. man. What an ad. What an ad for the Cape cod marathon there. That was, dude, I can't wait to go down and run. Like you absolutely sold it. So 50th anniversary, 2027 lock it in and maybe I'll even come get Tara Tara doctor or someone to come. You could write, check the show notes, Lincoln, the show notes, use code on the runs for 0 % off.
Julianna (53:00)
Pretty much.
We have a lot of fun.
Erika (53:10)
you can sign up now for the 2026 edition.
Julianna (53:11)
Yeah, you can sign up right. Registration
open is open. Sign up now because we will set. Yeah.
For 0 %? Genuinely, ⁓ I'll ask Cathy and Jack for a code. Cathy will make you 10 % off code.
Eric (53:29)
on the lobster
Erika (53:29)
⁓
Eric (53:30)
or the chowder challenge only though. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you gotta do the whole thing. Yeah.
Julianna (53:33)
⁓ yeah, that's the way to do it. I think that's the way to do it. Well here's
Erika (53:33)
You guys gotta go big.
Julianna (53:38)
the thing, the lobster challenge sold out last year, so I think it should be chow to chow.
Eric (53:41)
Yeah. Yeah. Well.
Erika (53:42)
There are people who would
do it. Come on. You did it. I would do it. 100%.
Julianna (53:46)
Yeah,
it's fun.
Eric (53:47)
Well, well, this podcast,
like I, as we were talking earlier, like the focus was you, the guest, and it turned into the Cape Cod marathon episode. know, but I want to hear, I want to hear a little bit about you. How did you get started and how did you become part of the running community? No, let me rephrase that. Let me rephrase that.
Julianna (53:56)
It went off the rails.
Erika (53:57)
what she loves let her do it
Julianna (54:00)
I love it.
evolve. a Pokemon.
Yeah, well I mean, uh-huh. ⁓
Erika (54:10)
But time out, my
god, do you like Pokemon?
Julianna (54:12)
I used to, I, I, so I am a very casual Pokemon-er, Pokemon trainer. I know the whole Pokemon theme song. This is my go-to karaoke song. I can sing it without any prompting. My brother was really into Pokemon, so like I learned that through watching it. I also do have a polyworld tattoo. So, yeah, so.
Eric (54:12)
Not only that, she likes Harry Potter too.
my God.
Erika (54:25)
Is it really?
⁓ I'm real
Eric (54:35)
you
Erika (54:36)
big into Pokemon
Go still for like, it's been what, 10 years?
Julianna (54:39)
See, this is where Juliana's
Eric (54:39)
Oh my god, come on. Wow.
Julianna (54:42)
ADHD comes into play. I was on the Harry Potter game, I was into the Pokemon Go game. I started so many mobile games on my phone and then I play them for a month and then I never touch them again.
Eric (54:42)
That's still a thing?
Erika (54:54)
you
Eric (54:54)
Yeah,
I'm the same way. I play for a weekend, but I wanna know more about you. You're runner. You are a runner. How did you become a runner?
Julianna (54:58)
huh. Yeah.
Erika (55:00)
Sorry, distraction.
Julianna (55:02)
Yeah.
Yeah, well, I mean, the general like running origin story for Juliana is that ⁓ I was never a runner growing up. I didn't do track. I didn't do cross country. Like I literally didn't run at all. I was this like little chubby kid in high school and middle school who was like really into theater. And like I was like doing I did every single any chorus you can think of. I was in any theater program you can think of. was in my best friend Lydia at the time, like one day after school. She's like, hey, Juliana.
wouldn't it be crazy if we ran a mile every day after school? I was like, Lydia, that's insane. Let's do it. And so we ran laps around the high school gym. I think we ran 16 or 17 laps. It took us at least 20 minutes to do it. And we just did that every day after school. And then my mom saw us doing it. And she was like, do you want to do the couch to 5K program? I was like, sure. And so I did that. And then I started just like.
Erika (55:39)
That would be crazy. I'm listening.
Eric (55:41)
Sign me up.
Julianna (55:59)
recreationally running in college just to like keep up with my five case that I had started doing. And then my aunt Tina was like, hey, have you guys heard of the Falmouth road race? And I was going to Framingham State in Massachusetts at this point. I was like, no, I have not. And I ran it because we got in via the lottery and that was my first road race I ever ran. And then I said, this was fun.
Erika (56:05)
Mm-hmm.
Julianna (56:23)
and just kept recreationally running like somewhere between like five and seven miles pretty much every day and then just went removed to Richmond, Virginia, which Richard G also weirdly has a big running community. ⁓ No idea exactly why, but they do they have like road races that happen like almost every other weekend like they have so many. ⁓ And then they have the monument 10k which is like their big like race and.
Erika (56:44)
Nice. Options.
Julianna (56:50)
I kid you not, the entire city of Richmond, Virginia runs this race. Like even the people who I worked with, because I was working as a dietician at the time, like who never run, were like, yeah, of course I'm running the Monument 10K. I was like, OK. And so I signed up for it, and I did it. And then I did my first half marathon after that. And then I moved to Falmouth. And Falmouth is very much, very, very, very much weirdly connected to the whole Boston community. Like the people who, a lot of people who are
like big names in like organizing the Boston Marathon are also part of the family. Roe race because of the like the dimsie and just like also Frank shorter lives down here and also like Joan Bernard Samuelson has a vacation house here and she's just casually here all the time. Yeah, no big deal and like all the people who live in town are just friends with most of the people who are like big marathon runners big names and running. They're just like casually friends and it's just like a thing.
Erika (57:31)
Nice.
Eric (57:32)
Not a big deal.
Julianna (57:47)
⁓ it's very funny to me. One of the funniest interactions I've like experienced is like I've seen Frank Shorter. We'll call it loosely running on the bike path. Like he's speed walking and he looks like he's about to pass out at any given point in time, but he's, ⁓ he's trying his best. You know, he's passed me like 80 something at this point. And so, but he'll just like walk around and he'll do that. And he'll just like walk around town and like, no one gives a shit. No one cares. ⁓
Erika (57:57)
you
wow, still out there.
They're used to it at that point.
Good for him.
Julianna (58:14)
Yeah, but
then I'll see I've seen him like at the Boston Marathon when I run it and he'll walk down the street and there's like 50 million people following this guy around and I'm just like Are we living in the same existence? I don't know if I'm living in the same existence as these other people. I just don't think I am Yeah, but it's balance is just very connected to the running community. It's also like I mentioned earlier community That's very much so running and walking. We're just a people of being outside of people who like
Erika (58:29)
Location, location, location.
Eric (58:30)
Right.
Julianna (58:44)
We, if you live in Falmouth, you appreciate nature, you appreciate being outside and like, as soon as like, as soon as it's nice outside, the entire town is out of our houses. Like we're not like, even when it's not nice outside, we're all out of our houses. We all bike everywhere, we all walk everywhere. We all are outside exercising at all points of time. Like it's just, it is the culture here to be running.
Erika (58:55)
Hmm.
Mm.
Eric (59:10)
I feel like
Falmouth is, when you think about popular races in New England, let alone Massachusetts, but New England, outside of Boston, Falmouth is the one I've always heard about. It's like gotta be the second most popular race in the state. Yeah. Over 11,000 runners. It's a unique distance of seven miles. It's a big charity race. Like what other races, you can't think of any.
Julianna (59:16)
Mm-hmm.
yeah.
Erika (59:22)
It's hard to get into. That lottery is nuts.
Julianna (59:25)
yeah.
Yeah, that's why you, gave it. huh. That's why you, if you have it.
Yeah.
Eric (59:37)
Really that come to mind when you think of a race pop, you know, you have the one in Maine beached a beacon.
Julianna (59:41)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, Beach to Beacon, Boulder to Boulder. It's kind of in that category of like non-marathons. Yep, yep. And then you have, ⁓ what the heck is it? The Boilermaker, 10K, like things like that. It's in that category of races where it's not a marathon, it's not a half marathon, but it's been voted like best rate, like one of the best top 10 races in the world, like multiple times. And like we have...
Eric (59:45)
Right? Melt Washington Road Race.
Yeah.
Julianna (1:00:06)
like legitimately like Olympic winning athletes who come and run this race every single year, both on the like, amazing. a lot of fun.
Eric (1:00:13)
It's a popular race. Gotta do it. After this,
I'm signing up for the lottery. You too, Erica. That's what we're doing. Signing up for the lottery. Yeah, yeah.
Julianna (1:00:20)
Yeah, you should. I say
Erika (1:00:20)
I'm writing it down.
Julianna (1:00:23)
that honestly, the bandwidth is a lot easier to get into than you think it is. I give yourself a 50-50 shot of getting into it to be 100 % honest. Yeah. Yeah, usually if you don't get in it, it's easier than Chicago. It's easier than Chicago. And I think Chicago is a pretty easy one to get into. Yeah, I know. But Chicago, like out of all the world marathon majors is definitely the easiest to get into for an American specifically.
Eric (1:00:28)
Really? Yeah, I'll take it.
Erika (1:00:29)
those odds. So you're saying there's a chance.
Eric (1:00:36)
Well, world majors have just become something else right now.
Well, because
it's not really a world major, it's kind of not cool or popular anymore. It's, you know, I don't know. It's not Boston. It's not New York. It's Erica's. It's Erica's favorite.
Julianna (1:00:53)
It's not Boston. It's not like. Yeah.
Erika (1:00:57)
He loves to just shit on it because it's my favorite one and...
Julianna (1:01:01)
I like Chicago. I've only
run it once, I have friends who live in Chicago, so it's one of the cities that I've traveled to the most often, honestly. I really thoroughly enjoyed Chicago. So I'm gonna give you my power ranking so far.
Eric (1:01:13)
For those who don't know
us by the way, I only say that about Chicago to give Eric a hard time. I can't wait to go to Chicago and run it.
Erika (1:01:18)
It just wants to push my buttons. But no, no, I
want to hear her rankings. Like this is going to be fun. Yes, please.
Julianna (1:01:22)
Yeah, I'm gonna give you the power ranking of like
Eric (1:01:24)
Okay,
Julianna (1:01:25)
the world marathon majors. Uh-huh, uh-huh. I've run Boston twice and it's still firmly sitting on the bottom. It only cemented its spot on the bottom the second time around. ⁓ Especially, I live in Massachusetts too. Like you think like it would have the home field advantage with me. It just doesn't like.
Eric (1:01:25)
well we already know Boston's on the bottom because she has a hot take about Boston
Erika (1:01:33)
Oh no. Oh no.
Mmm.
Julianna (1:01:45)
Yuck. just it happens at the grossest time of the entire year up here in New England and you're in these nasty-ass parts of Hopkington where there's no one spectating It's gross you work for that hole that last mile is what you're working for and it sucks the rest of the way And that's my opinion. Okay, Boston is on the bottom above that We're putting Berlin because the city of Berlin is a place that's riddled with with like sadness and also just trauma and that hole and just too many people It's not ready for that many people
Erika (1:01:46)
you
Julianna (1:02:13)
Like the race itself, was like, I describe it as it's German. It cares up to a point. You get to the 80 % point. It's very meticulous up to, gets to like 80 % of being done. And then it says, they're figuring it out on their own. And I don't give a fuck anymore. And then it's just like, that's what Berlin is. It's like, you get, like you're very meticulous. Do you get to the 80 % mark? And then it says, fuck it. And then it has a beer on one hand and a cigarette in the other. And it says, that is the Berlin Marathon.
Eric (1:02:15)
Interesting.
Erika (1:02:34)
Mm.
I'm with I'm kind
of with you the bathroom situation in Berlin was the most god-awful experience like people were just like women were just pissing in bushes because like the lines were insane so like that's yeah
Julianna (1:02:46)
I, I, huh. That's what I did because I was like, I'm never gonna see
any of these people ever again. And so was like, fuck it, I'm pissing in a bush. I do not care. That's more Russian than it is anything else, but you know.
Erika (1:02:56)
They don't care they're smoking and drinking. I know right.
I get it. get it.
Julianna (1:03:03)
But so
we go from the top to the bottom, go Boston, Berlin, and then I'm going to say Chicago, but that's like there's a big gap between Chicago and Berlin. Like Berlin's like all the way down here, Chicago is here. Yeah, like if we're going to give like, if Boston's at zero, Berlin is at like 15, Chicago's at like 75. So, and then New York is at like,
Erika (1:03:17)
Okay, so more towards the top, I'm okay with that.
There we go.
Eric (1:03:27)
okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Julianna (1:03:32)
New York currently is sitting at like 99 % and then Tokyo is also at a 99.
Eric (1:03:35)
Right? I don't know how any race can
do better than New York.
Erika (1:03:38)
so it's like a tie between New York and Tokyo.
Julianna (1:03:41)
Yeah,
have you run Tokyo, Erica? I, I... Okay, that's what I thought.
Erika (1:03:43)
I have. I have my six star. Actually, this is some news.
I'm on deck for seven. I have Sydney coming up in the fall almost. Six, seven. I hate that. I hate it. I'm not cool enough for that.
Julianna (1:03:51)
You guys said me? Nice. What?
Eric (1:03:51)
You know what she is, Juliana? She's no longer six star Erica, she's six, seven.
Julianna (1:03:57)
Six, seven, yeah. My kid that I
work with, Daniel, who has developmental challenges, he's physically 24. Mentally, this kid is 12. And so he'll be like, and he doesn't understand why, like he follows like social media stuff and so he'll be like, six, seven. I'm like, why are you doing that, Daniel? He's like, I don't know. I'm like, it means nothing, stop it. Stop it.
Erika (1:04:18)
Cause it's cool.
Eric (1:04:19)
You know what I like to say? I like to say these
kids didn't grow up with like we did because we have three, six, nine.
Julianna (1:04:25)
my god,
Erika (1:04:26)
Mm-hmm.
Julianna (1:04:27)
or like, or like do like the whatever thing whatever Whatever major loser I always forget that we just like walked around like this like We did so many other stupid things that were like just as dumb, you know But yeah, I I think like Tokyo is also up there in New York because it's like when you were in Tokyo You're in you're on a separate planet You're on like
Erika (1:04:31)
Wicked major loser, whatever, yeah, all this.
Eric (1:04:35)
Yeah.
Erika (1:04:37)
I haven't thought about that in years.
Hmm.
For real. Cleanest place I've ever seen in my life.
Julianna (1:04:53)
It doesn't nothing else compares with Tokyo because it just can't.
Eric (1:04:57)
heard that bathrooms are incredible. Yeah. That's cool.
Julianna (1:04:57)
I cannot wait to go back to Japan. I loved it so much. Yeah, I like it.
Erika (1:05:02)
I'm
to see where London's gonna fall for you. I thoroughly enjoyed London.
Julianna (1:05:06)
I think it's probably going to be
up. It's going to be competing with New York based off of what everyone says. And the fact that I am a big Harry Potter fan as well too. And I'm also like trying to think through like, and so I'm running with team for kids, which is my charity of choice. I've run with them. This is my third time, like officially running with them. My fourth time, like doing a race associated with them ⁓ in the TFK green singlet. ⁓ So I'm thinking through them like, what can I be that is neon green? I'm like, am I going to be a green bean? Am I going to be a frog? Am I going to be like,
Eric (1:05:34)
Do you dress up?
Julianna (1:05:35)
I don't know, like the green crayon. I don't know what I'm gonna be yet, but it has to be something that is kind of like neon green. Am I gonna be one of those like wobbly guys like for that you see at like car dealerships, you know, like I could be the green version of that. But like I love a costume. So like I'm totally here for it. And like I've already planned a trip that is involved. Like I booked my Harry Potter studio tour tickets. I booked my Cursed Child play tickets. I'm going to Ireland the week afterwards, you know.
Erika (1:05:42)
Mm-hmm.
Yes.
Julianna (1:06:05)
It's gonna be a nice time. I'm very excited.
Erika (1:06:07)
Excellent.
you got to celebrate especially since it's number six, but You are absolutely going to love the studio tour. I could live there. You have so you already know ⁓ my god. It's amazing
Eric (1:06:08)
Have you ever?
Yeah,
Julianna (1:06:11)
Yeah.
I've been there while already. And I've been to the Tokyo one. So I'm
Eric (1:06:19)
Have you been to Universal?
Julianna (1:06:20)
going back.
Universal, yes. I've been to the Florida Universal. I have not been since they put in the new Harry Potter section, which is probably, I'm like thinking about maybe going there next November. ⁓ But there is a video on that's pinned to the top of my reels and my social media of me crying, walking in, because my friend got a video of me.
doing that. I also got chosen for the wand ceremony when I went there, which I was again also crying. Yeah, it was was like a very serendipitous weekend, like week when I went down there and did all those things. But yes, I have been I've been to most of like the Harry Potter related that I've been to platform nine and three quarters. I've been to both studio tours. I've been to the Cursed Child both ⁓ in New York, in Tokyo, I just saw the tour again last this past week, I saw the first show of the entire tour in Chicago last year.
Erika (1:06:47)
special.
Julianna (1:07:10)
I had tickets to go see Tom Felton in January on Broadway. So I was gonna see it in Hamburg when I was there, but then I ended up leaving early because your girl Juliana got a UTI and she was bleeding blood, like peeing blood. And it was just like not the vibe. And I was like, I ended up in a German hospital. I said, no, thank you. I'm going home early.
Erika (1:07:15)
nice.
Eric (1:07:23)
no.
Erika (1:07:24)
no. ⁓
Eric (1:07:26)
Code Red.
Erika (1:07:30)
Mm-hmm. ⁓ God.
Eric (1:07:31)
That's no fun.
Julianna (1:07:31)
So.
Eric (1:07:32)
I don't know, but that's no fun.
Julianna (1:07:34)
Yeah, well, I mean, you can, I'm sure you can imagine peeing blood. Like that was kind of the main thing with the UTI was like the blood peeing was the problem. So that's a universally shared gender non-exclusive experience right there.
Erika (1:07:40)
It's not good.
Eric (1:07:49)
You know, I'm excited for you to run London because I think London sounds incredible. I'm not surprised about the Berlin take. So here's, I've, I'm one star Eric. I've only run New York city marathon, but like it is, I don't, I don't, I don't like, it's going to be really hard. And I, I think of Boston very highly, but it's going to be really hard for any marathon to beat that. But then again,
Julianna (1:07:57)
Yeah.
well, which is objectively the best. as of right now, at my ranking.
Yeah,
you really got to like, we got to the standards like really, like if New York is here, Boston's like, we can't see it.
Eric (1:08:17)
Yeah, yeah. ⁓ we'll see, we'll see. But
Erika (1:08:18)
Yeah.
We just have
so much fun cheering at Boston. So we on the outside have fun.
Eric (1:08:24)
yeah. You should come share with us. But to my point real quick was your Berlin take, I'm kind of the same. Never been to Berlin, never been to Germany, but I'm kind of like, how did Berlin become a major? Like, what is the hype about Berlin? And I've only heard one person say Berlin was their favorite. And I kind of think of Berlin as like, okay.
Julianna (1:08:24)
Well, there's a difference between spectators running it.
I could.
Yeah.
Nothing.
Eric (1:08:47)
Can I do Sydney and get my six star and not run Berlin?
Julianna (1:08:51)
Yeah, I have a friend who Berlin is also her favorite too, but it's her marathon PR. That's why. Yeah, she ran her marathon PR there.
Erika (1:08:56)
you
Eric (1:08:56)
So that's why. And
Erika (1:08:58)
definitely liked it.
Eric (1:09:00)
like, I'll be the first to say I'm wrong when I go to Berlin and have an awesome time, but just thinking of the six cities, I'm like least interested in going to Berlin.
Julianna (1:09:04)
Yeah, that's it. Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I-
Erika (1:09:08)
enjoyed Berlin,
but it was more because of the stuff I did around the trip. I did Munich, I did Oktoberfest, I went to Austria, and Austria was probably the most beautiful place I've ever seen in my entire life. I mean, Berlin was just in there. So I did enjoy it, I did it twice. Yes, exactly.
Julianna (1:09:15)
Yeah.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
That's the thing. Yeah.
Eric (1:09:29)
You went on a vacation and you went for run in the middle of it.
Julianna (1:09:32)
Yeah,
everyone I've talked to who's enjoyed the Berlin Marathon, they have pretty much showed up like a day or two beforehand. They go to the expo, they're like not really experiencing much of Berlin, they run the marathon, they have like a decent to good time like during the marathon, and then they immediately leave for Oktoberfest. And that is like, anyone I've talked to who's had like a good experience, like they either leave like the day of the marathon, like they leave later that day or the day after and they are like out.
Eric (1:09:33)
Yeah.
Erika (1:09:48)
Mm-hmm.
Four days max. That's all you need.
Julianna (1:10:01)
the getting the fuck out of Berlin and that's kind of, it's the beginning of September, end of September? Yeah, end of September, yeah.
Eric (1:10:04)
When is Berlin? It's in the fall, but what weekend?
Erika (1:10:07)
End of September.
Eric (1:10:10)
You know it'd be
fun. You know how a lot of people like to do Boston and London six days later?
Julianna (1:10:15)
You could do Berlin and then Cape Cod.
Eric (1:10:17)
yeah, actually you're right. I was going to say Chicago two weeks later, but you're right. When is, when is Sydney Sydney's in August, right?
Julianna (1:10:20)
You could bring some beers with you back.
Erika (1:10:22)
I did that before. Did Chicago and Berlin the same year.
Julianna (1:10:26)
Oh my God. The year that I ran Chicago,
yeah, so you could run Sydney, Berlin, Cape Cod, New York.
Eric (1:10:34)
Cape Cod.
Yeah, that would be quite the year. ⁓ I've joked, I said, like, when I do my, I won't run them all until I can do nine and I'll say, do, I can't talk right now. But I said, like, I'll do all nine in a year. I know that's crazy.
Erika (1:10:38)
I see no excuses, Eric. It's ironclad.
Julianna (1:10:46)
Uh-huh.
There are people like,
we know this. You guys have probably talked to some of these people too, like who do this regularly.
Eric (1:10:55)
I know that's the kind of
Erika (1:10:55)
Jared
Eric (1:10:58)
challenge I would want to do versus doing it over 10 years. I've seen people, but, but I I'm not doing that anytime soon. Yeah, I know. I know I need sponsors.
Julianna (1:11:02)
Yeah.
Erika (1:11:04)
MUI EXPENSIVE my friend
Julianna (1:11:06)
I know that's the problem. well, so people have talked to me, they're like, are you going to do the seven
marathons and seven continents thing? was like, do you think I have the money for that? Do you understand how much that costs?
Eric (1:11:14)
Right?
Erika (1:11:15)
We're looking for
sponsors, all three of us.
Eric (1:11:18)
I need $90,000.
Julianna (1:11:18)
It's like
$100,000 for like the cheapest way to do that.
Eric (1:11:22)
We had one guy offer us $5,000 when we sign up. He's like, I'll pay 5,000. I'm like, okay, cool. I need 95,000 more.
Julianna (1:11:28)
That's nothing.
Yeah, that literally is like one of your flights. yeah, it's not like.
Eric (1:11:34)
5%. I got 5 % covered.
Actually 6 because then Jay Perrin offered $1,000. So I have 6 % covered. Yeah. We're working there bit by bit. Speaking of feet pics, you have quite the shoe collection.
Erika (1:11:38)
Six.
Julianna (1:11:41)
Okay. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. I think... Honestly.
Erika (1:11:45)
I need to sell the feet pics. That's where I'm going to get my money from.
Julianna (1:11:51)
Uh-huh.
That was a good transition right there. Very nice. Smooth. 10 out of 10.
Erika (1:11:55)
Wow. I am honestly.
Eric (1:11:56)
Yes.
Thank you. Let's let's talk some shoe porn as I like to call it shoe porn.
Erika (1:11:59)
Wow, dude.
Julianna (1:12:01)
Yes, I do have a lot of shoes.
Erika (1:12:04)
Mm. Mm.
Julianna (1:12:04)
Yeah,
⁓ yeah, me and my best friend Ben are like big, big proponents of shoe porn. Like ⁓ big, like ⁓ victims of shoe porn, 100%. Like even before we were on this, I was on the Believe in the Run website, like, cause they had their best of stuff that just came out and I was like, ooh. And then I was on Google and I was like, can I find these shoes? ⁓ Cause I clearly need more shoes. I definitely need more shoes.
Erika (1:12:14)
you
Ha.
Eric (1:12:21)
Yeah.
Julianna (1:12:30)
⁓ But you know, I wear a lot of shoes. A lot of it comes from like having worked at a running shoe store for like two years and also having a lot of like health and body challenges. For me shoes are kind of like, they're tools. They are the tool that gets, especially now that I've taken up a lot more trail running too. Like it's the tool that stops you from getting injured, that gives you the best chance of getting to the finish line. It's a runner's most important tool.
Erika (1:12:35)
Mmm.
Mm.
Julianna (1:12:56)
There's a different, you want a different tool for when it's icy and windy and 20 degrees outside, as opposed to when it's like 90 and really hot and like dry as a bone. And you're like, whatever terrain you're running on as well too is also a factor. And how your foot strike is and like how worn out is the shoe? What are you using it for? Like I wear completely different shoes when I run in, when I walk. I have a whole section of my shoes that are just for walking because I walk through my heels, but I run through my toes. So, you know, we need two separate sets of shoes. So.
Erika (1:13:06)
Mm-hmm.
Julianna (1:13:26)
I love a shoe. Bees shoes are best friends.
Erika (1:13:27)
I support this 100%.
Eric (1:13:27)
You know what I like?
You know what I like something you do though is you'll go on Amazon and you'll buy a cheap shoe, like a $40 shoe, and you'll run in it and then you'll give your review on it and you're like finding good inexpensive sneakers. Like we're not talking $80, we're talking 40 bucks.
Julianna (1:13:34)
huh. yeah, I've done that.
I bought an $18 shoe.
yeah,
Erika (1:13:44)
So not even like a name brand,
Julianna (1:13:44)
most of my shoes-
Erika (1:13:46)
like you're just picking whatever you want. Like, I love that.
Eric (1:13:49)
Yeah.
Julianna (1:13:49)
It depends.
It depends. Me and my buddy, you guys have met John. John and I reviewed like an 18 to $15 shoe. I think it was $12 actually I paid for it, which is like a non name brand shoe, which actually has performed better than some of the other shoes that I've worn. And I was like, okay. Even like recently when I was in Berlin, I went to Decathlon and I picked up one of their shoes there that was 35 pounds or like 40 bucks.
Erika (1:14:01)
Yep, yep.
Mm-hmm.
Julianna (1:14:16)
I'm wearing this shoe all, this is a great, I love this shoe. It's a great shoe. I'm like, why can't we have like really, like really good budget shoes here? Like what is going on? Like.
Erika (1:14:26)
I feel like you can't get
a name brand pair of shoes for cheaper than like 150 bucks these days. Like it's just out of control.
Julianna (1:14:31)
No, not that's
not like a brick.
Eric (1:14:33)
Outside of
running you can but like running Pacific no, maybe 140
Julianna (1:14:37)
yeah like walking
Erika (1:14:38)
Yeah.
Julianna (1:14:40)
shoes kind of but like i mean i my my biggest thing that i so most of my shoes have been under 40 bucks is what i paid for them like tag price i'm also very because i know my feet extremely well ⁓ and my foot strike extremely well and i get i worked in running retail so like i know what like foam compression looks like i know the quality is the foams and things like that i
buy like name brand shoes that are like either slightly used or like you'd be surprised how many shoes you can buy like essentially brand new like on like Mercari and Poshmark and eBay those are my top three that are like literally untouched because people buy shoes they don't fit they leave them in their closet the return policy thing like where it runs out or whatever or they just forget that they have it and they just want to get out and get it out of their house and yeah I've like I
Erika (1:15:10)
Mm.
Eric (1:15:20)
Yeah.
Erika (1:15:21)
Hmm. Right, right.
Eric (1:15:29)
You ever heard of relay goods?
Julianna (1:15:31)
I have not had as much luck on relay just because the relay I also this is my take on relay really is good for people who don't have as much shoe knowledge as I do I can look at a pair of shoes and I can like I'm the person who like would take in the shoes from relay like if you I'm the person who you would send the shoes to who would be like this shoe is like gonna meet these standards would be like a b c d quality and that's what we're gonna send it for
Erika (1:15:52)
⁓
Julianna (1:15:58)
I don't need that between person because I just know the shoes and the quality and how I run so well that I give myself a 90 % success rate with the shoes that I bought. And I bought at least 70 pairs of shoes the last year. Again, averaging somewhere between $15 and $30 is probably the average I paid on a shoe.
Eric (1:16:16)
Wow.
70 pairs of shoes. Where do you put them?
Julianna (1:16:22)
Oh yeah, well I'm doing ultra marathon training
too. I have a shoe rack. I have 45 pairs of shoes on my shoe rack plus I have more in the closet. Okay.
Erika (1:16:25)
Mm-hmm.
Eric (1:16:28)
That's a big shoe rack.
Erika (1:16:34)
No judgment from me. Trust me. I've got my fair share.
Eric (1:16:36)
Yeah.
You should see if you go into Erica's house downstairs in the basement, she has multiple, ⁓ gooder, sunglass racks that hold all our gooders on all the doors. Yeah.
Julianna (1:16:38)
Yeah, I mean...
Mm-hmm.
Erika (1:16:45)
⁓ yeah. Yeah, that's my weakness. ⁓
Julianna (1:16:46)
see, yeah.
Erika (1:16:49)
Gotta have everything to match.
Julianna (1:16:49)
yeah, see, that's something that I have not fully delved into yet, but I do have, think, like, I like to collect the weird ones. Like, I have the Grandma's Couch themed ones. I have the mountain range ones. Yeah.
Erika (1:17:01)
Yeah, nice. The limited editions
that they get me to.
Julianna (1:17:06)
Yeah, the glow in the dark ones, I've been really tired, especially when it running, working in like a running shoe store and getting the discount. Getting a discount on 25 bucks makes it really tempting because it was like 40 % off. And I'd be like, I could just like 15 bucks buy a new pair of sunglasses.
Erika (1:17:15)
Totally.
Not bad at all.
I know, right?
Julianna (1:17:23)
I was just like, I don't know. yeah, this is, I feel like shoes, everyone who has like a hobby, you have like that one thing where you're like, yeah, I have like 70 of these. Whatever it is.
Erika (1:17:34)
Mm-hmm. Sounds about right. But going back
to your shoes, are there... So if you are doing a road run and if you're doing a trail run, what are your go-to pairs of shoes for different terrain? As of right now, I know you're trying different stuff out, but especially ultra running, is there a pair that you've stuck to that you just love so much?
Julianna (1:17:41)
Mm-hmm.
I mean...
Yeah.
yeah puma dva 2s honestly the puma dva 2 is the ultimate road to trail shoe it was not meant for that but it has like two and a half three millimeter lugs on the bottom and the puma grip man if you have not run in a puma shoe you are doing yourself a disservice to be 100 honest like it is pretty much continental rubber ⁓
Eric (1:18:10)
Really?
It's not a name
brand that comes to mind when I think of running shoe.
Julianna (1:18:17)
They have the best, they, you have to be a running shoe sicko and you have to just be like in it for the game. And they, their shoes are the best, overall they have the best daily trainer stability shoe, like super trainer max cushion shoe. Like I even run, I've ran in their Mag Max, which is their brand new, brand newer, like max cushion shoe. It's the only max cushion shoe I've worn where I'm like, I don't feel like I'm squishing into the foam and like not being able to like bounce out of it. And it's like, it's like,
Eric (1:18:20)
Okay.
Erika (1:18:43)
Mmm.
Julianna (1:18:46)
45 millimeters high, like it's a chunky boy. And just to get that bounce out of it, plus they're sassy too. If you flip up the back heel part, it says bouncy AF on the back. I'm like, that's fun. So, but they all have the continental rubber on the bottom and the Puma DV8 has a like a TPU carbon plate, like blended plate in it, partial plate. And so it has a rock plate essentially built into it. And it's
Erika (1:18:48)
Whoa.
Eric (1:18:57)
Nice.
Erika (1:19:12)
nice.
Julianna (1:19:13)
I don't, it's just great. I've run all my ultras this year in it. I've run my Muro Marathons in it. And it's just, it's done great every single time. So 10 out of 10 is a shoe that they don't make anymore. The three is not the same. Yeah. The three is not the same. The four is coming out soon. So I'm currently on the search for the new version, which all the technology that's out there. And honestly, one of the, one of the biggest growing fields of shoes right now in the running industry.
Erika (1:19:26)
it figures.
Julianna (1:19:43)
One is trail shoes in general. Two is road to trail shoes, because people are moving more towards the trail and so they're looking for a shoe that they can like start at the front door and ⁓ they can just take it from like on the road. ⁓ What was, what was the, I was watching Believe in the Run's review of like trail shoes earlier. ⁓ I think they said like dirt, dirt to forest or DTF, dirt to forest.
Erika (1:19:46)
Mm-hmm.
Eric (1:20:10)
Ha!
Erika (1:20:10)
Perfect.
Julianna (1:20:12)
Oh, driveway to Forrest, that's what it was, driveway to Or DTS,
Eric (1:20:13)
driveway, I was gonna say, What's your favorite
Julianna (1:20:16)
so we're down for some DTS shoes, you know? I was like, that's funny.
Eric (1:20:16)
road to trail shoe? Yeah, what's your favorite road to trail shoe? Because I typically like to go running to some places and take the trail and I'm always going from my driveway. So that's awesome, DTF.
Julianna (1:20:29)
Yeah, they're just like, they still have that like grippy rubber on them. They're not as aggressive as like those like four to five millimeter lug shoes where you can like feel the lugs kind of pressing through the shoe on the bottom if you run on those.
Eric (1:20:38)
Yeah.
Erika (1:20:38)
I will trip
over stuff if they have big lugs. Like recently I started, I tried the Mount to Coast H1s that just came out and those I do really like them. They are pretty cushy, but they just have a little bit of grip and that's all I need. Cause I will trip over air. Literally air.
Julianna (1:20:42)
Eww.
I want to try those.
Yeah.
Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's all you need.
Eric (1:20:57)
I need to get a good DTF shoe, because when I run up and down
Julianna (1:20:57)
Yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm.
Eric (1:21:00)
McIntyre, Erica, I need DTF.
Erika (1:21:01)
I can't, I can't with that.
Julianna (1:21:03)
I just introduced a monster
Eric (1:21:06)
He did I love it. I'll never
Erika (1:21:06)
You did.
Eric (1:21:08)
forget that either. So thank you for that. I send me any your DTF suggestions I
Erika (1:21:13)
He's gonna text
Julianna (1:21:13)
Uh-huh.
Erika (1:21:15)
me, Erica, these shoes are DTF, they're perfect. I'm like, God. Just, yeah, just wait.
Julianna (1:21:16)
Gg you!
Eric (1:21:17)
I'm gonna I'm gonna be at
the top of McIntyre like what's up everybody just hanging out tried some new DTF ⁓ on my feet It would be fun
Julianna (1:21:23)
⁓ Yeah, I
Erika (1:21:26)
It cracks me up.
Julianna (1:21:30)
love it's it's one of my favorite categories too because especially living in New England as well Like you never know what the weather is gonna throw at you So just like being in a shoe where you know that like if it starts raining like it's like I mean I love the Nova blast from a six It's one of my favorite shoes of all like shoe lines of all time
Eric (1:21:36)
Yeah.
Erika (1:21:38)
Absolutely.
Julianna (1:21:47)
The grip is absolute shit on the bottom of that shoe. No matter what they tell you, the grip is absolutely horrendous. It's gotten a little teeny bit better, which each, they're on the five now with each model that they do, but it is absolutely horrendous. Like if it is like thinking about raining outside or if I can like this like a whisp that it might rain, I'm like, I can't wear that shoe because like I'm going to slip. Like it's not okay. But it's, or if I'm going to run by the beach and it's like kind of a stormy day, I'm like, there's going to be water on the road. Like I can't, I can't wear that shoe like, because it's just so.
Erika (1:21:49)
Hmm.
Eric (1:21:49)
Hahaha
Erika (1:22:12)
Mmm.
Eric (1:22:12)
Yeah.
Julianna (1:22:17)
slippery, but the thing is ASICS makes good trail shoes and I'm like, what are you doing? Like you can just put a slightly better rubber on the bottom. Doesn't have to be the trail rubber, just a little bit better. I can't with certain certain shoe brands I just can't with. I'm like you made this shoe, but how did this shoe come out of the same brand? I don't understand. You guys are wackadoodle. Stupid shoe brand sometimes, you know.
Erika (1:22:24)
It's not that hard you guys, just do it. ⁓
Needs work.
Eric (1:22:40)
Oh, this has been so
much fun. Let's talk a little bit about what you're wearing right there. Runa. You started, you start, you've been podcasting forever since like 2019, but you started the Runa podcast a couple of years ago. We've had some of our friends on the podcast to talk a little bit about Runa. think it's just a, it's, I mean, it's global. It's worldwide, but it's really focused on Cape Cod, right?
Julianna (1:22:45)
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yeah, I mean, I started it mostly because, so I had the idea to start it like probably four or five years ago. I just needed the kick in the ass to do it, you know? And I have, like you said, I've been podcasting for, yeah, a DTF shoot kicked me right up in the ass, you know? I like to DTF'd right up in the ass. ⁓
Eric (1:23:11)
You gotta get a DTF shoe for that kick in the ass.
Erika (1:23:14)
you
Eric (1:23:17)
Yeah.
The faster the
Julianna (1:23:24)
you
you would never know that I wasn't like on an improv team or anything in college. People are like, did you do improv? I'm like, no, this is just my brain. This is just it. This is the end of my existence, of my brain and of the world. So that's that. ⁓ yeah, no, so I had this idea to start running because mostly because I, through doing the Cape Cod Marathon, I realized like how interconnected, like weirdly and like unannounced and like unexplained and like.
really un-broadcasted way that the Found With Running community was a global running community. Like we bring in like the whole world for an entire weekend for the road race. Like I said, like half the people who work for the Boston Marathon also work for the Found With Road race are also part of the Found With Running club. So it's an easy way to work up the chain. And I just remember sitting in the Cape Cod Marathon like planning meetings and the guy who used to do all the water stops for the Boston Marathon, who is a little bit older now and has since retired from that.
Eric (1:23:59)
Yeah.
Erika (1:24:11)
Mm.
Julianna (1:24:23)
is now our water stop guy. like, and he like comes to like, we have like, ex professionals doing our race. And I was like, that's something that people never, I would never know that. And I just have met so many cool people who live in town who have such interesting stories to tell. And like, I feel like this is a community that they need, we need a cheerleader. We need people to tell people about what's going on here. And I really,
Erika (1:24:34)
Mm-hmm.
Julianna (1:24:52)
I really enjoy that and I enjoy being able to be that, that mouthpiece. ⁓ we've also decided that starting this year, I'm not the MC for the Cape Cod marathon slash like running in Falmouth. I'm the MV, the master of vibes. ⁓ so I am the MV for the Falmouth running community and thus the global, the more like more outer reaching running community. ⁓ so we like to put out those good vibes. We like to just like.
Erika (1:25:16)
Mm-hmm.
Julianna (1:25:21)
tell you what's going on in your community, create community connections, like even within our community too. Like I had like our race director for the Cape Cod Trail Race come on and like so many people were like, I didn't know there was a trail race I'm down with. I was like, indeed there is and you can run it. So just like creating and like DTF, you will definitely, you could definitely use some DTF shoes. It's not a super technical course. So you could definitely go for some DTF shoes. I would agree with that. Depending on the weather, usually it's fine though.
Eric (1:25:36)
with some DTF shoes.
Julianna (1:25:49)
The only thing I would throw up there would be ice, but then you can just get some like, yeah, tracks or something and you're probably fine. It's not a big deal. But yeah, it just kind of started because I really love this community. I wanted to share it with other people and I wanted other people to be able to share their stories as well too. And I also just like, I had come from, like I mentioned, a performing background and like if I don't do something that's performative for over a week, I need to scratch that itch somehow and...
Here we are, Juliana is podcasting slash during YouTube videos slash during TV shows slash announcing slash you name it, I'm probably doing it.
Eric (1:26:23)
You're it all. You're doing it all. Master the vibes.
Erika (1:26:25)
For real. And
Julianna (1:26:25)
Yeah.
Erika (1:26:27)
also giving Eric bad ideas.
Julianna (1:26:30)
Yeah, I am the human embodiment of a DTF shoe.
Eric (1:26:31)
Good ideas. Yes.
Erika (1:26:35)
We have to know, I get it with the whole being from Massachusetts, but run a, is that just, it encompasses Massachusetts and the area, the whole name of the podcast. I wanted to see if there was anything deeper behind the meaning of the podcast name.
Eric (1:26:35)
Amazing.
Julianna (1:26:41)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Yeah, so I was like throwing around, yeah. No, it's just
Eric (1:26:49)
Erica
Julianna (1:26:55)
I was throwing around names and like I was on on a run, obviously, duh. And I was thinking about, was like, what could I name this show? And like, I couldn't think of anything like pithy or like fun to think of. And I was like, is it a run-in show? It's like a runner, you know? And I was like, oh, like that is what it should be because it immediately tells you in one word exactly what it is. It's running in Massachusetts.
Erika (1:26:59)
Mm-hmm.
We're just runners.
Julianna (1:27:17)
This is exactly how you pronounce the word if you're from Massachusetts and people get that because they get like the pack the cat the have a yeah shit like that. So people know that people from Massachusetts pronounce things like this and it is running in Massachusetts and that's exactly what it is. And so then like it's very interesting for me to wear this sweatshirt around to and the number of people who stop me and they're like, that's funny. I'm like, that's right.
Erika (1:27:24)
Yeah.
Julianna (1:27:44)
It's people are it's memorable too because it's easy to remember and it just makes sense as to like what I'm trying to come across and also there were no other podcasts or shows or anything else that had like been using this name like there's the app Runa which doesn't have the H on it. That's UK based. I think they were around first. I want to say they were. I hadn't heard of them when I named it but they weren't even like even if they had that they weren't part of the decision.
Erika (1:27:50)
Mm-hmm.
Were you around first or was the app around?
Eric (1:28:10)
They've blown up in the last like 18
months, I And investors, they got money, deep pockets, something. mean, sponsor the pod.
Erika (1:28:13)
because they partnered with Strava, right? That's their thing. So that's why they're more popular.
Julianna (1:28:16)
Yeah.
Yeah,
they've not like, I was gonna say, feel like the last like, what year maybe? People have like really been leaning into that and they've been sponsoring a lot of like YouTube people.
Erika (1:28:31)
Mmm.
Eric (1:28:32)
Coming up on two
years, like when we started this, I never heard of Runa.
Julianna (1:28:36)
Yeah, I feel they just had people at Berlin and I think at New York who were like part of their like they had like their like content creator cohort or people from run. I was like, that's fun. That's nice. And it's just like
Eric (1:28:46)
I mean, they've invested good on them.
They've invested, they put in probably a lot of money and they got a lot of talent to help it grow and partnered with the right people. And they just need to now sponsor not only on the runs, but the run a podcast.
Julianna (1:28:53)
Yeah.
Erika (1:29:00)
feel like that's a perfect partnership, meant to be.
Julianna (1:29:00)
I mean this is a,
Eric (1:29:02)
Yeah,
Julianna (1:29:03)
I mean runna and runna,
Eric (1:29:04)
RUNNA brought to you by RUNNA.
Julianna (1:29:04)
you know? Runna. One with an H and one without an H.
Erika (1:29:06)
That's not
confusing at all, you guys.
Julianna (1:29:11)
That would actually be really funny to just be like run up, run up, run up, run up, run up and just like make like a little like Instagram reel with that. That'd be pretty funny.
Erika (1:29:18)
Cute!
Eric (1:29:18)
Did you
get the RUNNA app? Yeah, I heard about it on the RUNNA podcast. I use the discount RUNNA. ⁓
Julianna (1:29:22)
on the RUNA Podcast. Did you hear about it? RUNA.
It's a lot of fun. Yeah, no. So that's kind of it. It made sense to me. It embodies the community that I'm a part of. It embodies the community that I want to amplify. And it's just easy. It's something also, again, that people, identify, whether they watch or listen at all, they think it's funny and they enjoy it and people identify with it, especially people in Massachusetts. They're like, I get it.
Erika (1:29:37)
Mm-hmm.
Eric (1:29:46)
Mm-hmm.
Julianna (1:29:51)
They know exactly what I'm going for. And that is like great. Again, as someone who's done a lot of podcasts where sometimes like the title isn't the most like it makes sense to you, but maybe doesn't translate as well to like 75.
Eric (1:30:04)
It needs to align
with your identity, I feel. And that's perfect for you, where you are, and what you talk about. Yeah.
Julianna (1:30:07)
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah,
Erika (1:30:12)
Yeah,
your audience knows what they're going to get.
Julianna (1:30:13)
it makes a lot of sense. Yeah, Massachusetts running. And you get it in one word and it's a nice time.
Eric (1:30:15)
Yeah. But speaking of ours, do you have any poop stories?
No, I'm just kidding.
Erika (1:30:22)
not digging deep for this.
Julianna (1:30:23)
Did you want to hear? I have many poop stories. As your friend.
Eric (1:30:26)
I feel like we need to have
you back because one, the first 30 minutes was an ad for the Cape Cod Marathon and we have to record yours soon. But we do have two hot topic questions. I say hot topic. We're gonna let Erica go first with hers because I hope this one's, we get a little bit into your music feel here and then we really get to judge you.
Julianna (1:30:33)
Yes, it was.
Yes.
Okay.
Erika (1:30:52)
mean, I don't get very judgy. I think Eric's more the judgy one. He's like, who picked this song? Anyways, but we have ourselves a Spotify playlist and we like to invite our guests to add something to it. So is there anything that just pumps you up when you're running or just gets you in the mood to get out and be outside in your beautiful area of Fama? Would you like to add a song?
Eric (1:30:57)
you
Julianna (1:31:14)
⁓
I mean, you so I listen to almost exclusively there are two genres that Juliana listens to when she's running. Okay? EDM and Broadway and Broadway. So ⁓ I'm either, there's like a 50, there's a 50-50 shot that I'm singing Wicked while I'm running or I'm like, and N.O.T.D. is my favorite DJ. It's capital N.O.T.D.
Erika (1:31:21)
Mm-hmm.
Yup. On board. And what? Ooh.
Eric (1:31:24)
I love EDM. Broadway?
Erika (1:31:29)
So those are opposite ends of the spectrum, but I love it.
Julianna (1:31:42)
⁓ They're my favorite DJ set people. I love them very much. ⁓ My top song has been Last Day on Earth, which I don't know the name of the person who sings ⁓ it. It's an EDM song. Those people are singing it, but that's not who the artist is essentially. Let me see.
Eric (1:31:48)
I'm liking where we're going here. Keep it up, keep it up, don't disappoint me.
Good job. Good job.
Julianna (1:32:12)
Who, you have Dancing with the Ghost, Highs and Lows by Justin Caruso. That's also good. Last Day, the Dualities remix by Two Friends, Dualities, and Josie. I don't know if it'll fillet, if it will like, would you like a small sampling? I can see if it'll play. Okay.
Eric (1:32:23)
Josie's on a vacation far away. Do do do do do do do. Oh.
No, no, you're good, you're good, you're good. You're good.
Erika (1:32:34)
Like if
we do, think it's gotta be less than 30 seconds or else we get dinged.
Eric (1:32:38)
Six.
Julianna (1:32:40)
⁓ It's an EDM remix. I do a lot of pop EDM remixes. I've got Ava Max on here. I've got two friends. We got the Chainsmokers. We got Mnick. We got Joe Corey. Jess Glynn is also on there. Jax Jones, also a favorite. But also in this on repeat playlist, we have Defying Gravity, popular.
Erika (1:32:46)
That's my jam. That is right up there with my...
Eric (1:32:49)
Yeah.
You got a good mix. You got a good mix.
Erika (1:32:55)
Mm-hmm.
⁓ love her. Beautiful.
Eric (1:32:59)
Nice.
Nice.
Erika (1:33:10)
Eric's like, and that's a good where you found you nailed one. Did you?
Eric (1:33:12)
I just watched that movie. I just watched
it because I want to go see the second one in the theaters. So I just watched it. So I enjoyed the movie. I was fortunate. Like I was able to sit down and take the whole thing in versus being distracted the whole time. So I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. And ⁓ I'm not good with names, but she's a runner.
Julianna (1:33:17)
okay. Okay.
Erika (1:33:20)
Thoughts?
⁓
Cynthia Revo.
Julianna (1:33:35)
yeah, Cynthia Rebo.
Eric (1:33:36)
Thank you. She's a runner
Julianna (1:33:37)
Yeah.
Eric (1:33:38)
and she runs some pretty big marathons or half marathon. She run the Brooklyn half marathon. That's the one that goes through Times Square, right? Yeah. So she's a runner and coming soon on the on the runs podcast. Maybe. Anyone know her shout out, let's get her. ⁓ I'm going to manifest that one.
Julianna (1:33:45)
I think so.
Yeah.
Erika (1:33:51)
I wish. ⁓
Julianna (1:33:51)
Maybe. ⁓
I feel like she's dropping like.
Erika (1:33:56)
I feel like your sister's the only one who's like lives close to her sister.
Or yeah, close in the city, you know.
Eric (1:34:02)
Yeah. Well, my question actually, I change mine every year. And so for 2026, it's now, what's your hot take? So what is your 2026 hot take? It could be something like pineapple doesn't belong on pizza, or it could be a running take. What's your hot take?
Julianna (1:34:03)
Yeah.
Okay.
Erika (1:34:13)
I'm excited to hear the dirt.
Julianna (1:34:22)
I mean, we kind of already, I was thinking, what's my hot take? Like, I don't like the Boston Marathon. But like, I was trying to think of something else that's like a hot take. I mean, I guess like my, so I'll give you a shoe hot take. And this is as a trail runner. ⁓ What is the point of carbon plates in a trail shoe?
Eric (1:34:23)
Yeah, we did. We did. But, but, but why?
Erika (1:34:24)
you
Eric (1:34:34)
Okay.
Erika (1:34:35)
Ooh.
Eric (1:34:41)
Boom, I love it. Great hot take.
Erika (1:34:41)
you
Julianna (1:34:42)
I don't understand.
Who is having boingy boingy fun times on rocks because they're not? You're just not, like...
Eric (1:34:46)
Especially in the trail like you don't
want it to like spring you into a tree or something
Julianna (1:34:53)
Well, that's the thing. Like, if you ever run a trail, you know it's an uneven surface. You don't want to catapult yourself at a weird direction. Like, the carbon plate's just going to throw you off the rock in whatever, like, odd angle that your foot hit the thing on. And, like, unless you've got, really, really, really dialed-in ankle control, like, you are just, like, boinging off into a tree, and then half the time, you're freaking power hiking. And I'm like, why do we need a carbon plate for that? Like, I don't understand.
Eric (1:34:59)
Right.
Erika (1:35:00)
That's breaking ankles.
Eric (1:35:16)
Right, right. You know what?
You know what? Carbon-plated trail shoes are not DTF. Nope, they're not.
Julianna (1:35:23)
No, they are not DTF.
don't understand. Unless you're running like really, unless it's like not really, it's like tow path and it's not like, more like even like, yeah. Yeah, unless it's like anywhere close to a New England trail, like, and you're just doing like running on like flat gravel surfaces. Then I understand the carbon plated shoes. And then in my head, I'm like, isn't this just a road race? I don't know. Then I'm just, cause then you can't even just like use regular road shoes. You don't need like.
Erika (1:35:32)
more gravel you're not doing actual trails yeah that's a different story
Julianna (1:35:52)
the other stuff, the other parts that come with the trail shoe, if you have the surface to use the trail shoe on. So I'm like, what is the point of the carbon plated trail shoe? I don't understand it.
Erika (1:35:58)
Mm-hmm.
Eric (1:36:02)
Yeah, I appreciate your answer actually because for two reasons. One, you went away from what we thought you were gonna go with the Boss Marathon because we already kind of knew this from earlier in the episode. But two, you're one of the earlier episodes in the year. So you kind of just set the tone. You set the tone for the hot takes.
Erika (1:36:05)
Solid hot take.
Julianna (1:36:07)
Mm-hmm.
Hmm Hmm, maybe more more hot takes
on shoes and trail running and things like that. You never know Yeah, who who if you are having boingy boingy fun times on the trail with a carbon plated shoe You let me know because I don't know who that person is unless you're like Scott jerk or something who probably hates carbon plated shoes to be honest because he's an old-school runner so he's probably not so ⁓ Maybe Courtney DeWalter is having boingy boingy fun times. I don't know
Eric (1:36:23)
Yeah. Yeah.
Erika (1:36:28)
you
If anybody is probably her and if I had to guess anybody else, probably like Andy Glaze because he says, smile or you're doing it wrong. So he, yeah. good. Okay. Then. ⁓
Julianna (1:36:48)
Yeah. No, he actually wears the Speed Goaf from and the Maffante from Hoka with their unplated.
Yeah, yeah, he is he's a Hoka boy and he wears the unplated Hoka shoes.
Erika (1:37:01)
Aha, so he's not having quite as much boingy boingy fun time as everybody else. It probably is just Courtney DeWalter then. She just looks like a gazelle out there. She's just graceful.
Julianna (1:37:05)
No as much boingy boingy fun time. No.
I don't know how
she does it. I'm just like, am I the only one who doesn't feel like that? Yeah.
Eric (1:37:13)
She's road racing now.
Erika (1:37:14)
Oh God, trails are
out to get me. I don't know what it is. just anything I could look at a route and it'll trip me. Like I won't even hit it with my foot and I'll be like, Oh no, I'm going down. Like it's, it's not good for me.
Eric (1:37:22)
He he he.
Julianna (1:37:23)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. I
mean, as your friend who took two shots to the two falls to the head and two one to the chest and two to the side on my 50 mile attempt. I hear you. It was definitely I mean, it started at 5am. We had like a ton of leaves blow in overnight. So it was kind of like a suicide mission to begin with. But you know what? It's fine. Yeah, my first ever DNF now an official ultra marathon runner.
Erika (1:37:30)
no. ⁓ no. no.
⁓
Eric (1:37:41)
It's your first DNF, right? Yeah. my God. We need to talk again.
We need to have you back and talk about so much more.
Julianna (1:37:49)
Yeah, I think, well, I'm glad that you guys have me on. I think it's
Eric (1:37:53)
It was wicked awesome. Wicked. Wicked
Erika (1:37:57)
absolute blast.
Eric (1:37:58)
awesome time with runoff. This was wicked awesome. Listen, you sold me on the Cape Cod marathon because it's a whole weekend. I wanna go, I wanna be a part of it. yeah, we're gonna, I do wish though that the lobster challenge was the whole thing and the chowder challenge was the small one just cause I love lobster and I don't eat chowder. So.
Julianna (1:38:07)
It's an experience.
Mm-hmm.
Hmm.
Well, I mean, you can go buy a lobster afterwards. You don't have to like, there are like the it's... No, there's a lobster medal.
Eric (1:38:25)
I just, I want the lobster medal or whatever you get,
but I want to run the half and the full and that's the chowder.
Julianna (1:38:34)
Well, so I'm going to tell you, so the lobster medal is like shiny, shiny, shiny plated bread, and it also doubles as a bottle opener.
Erika (1:38:43)
Hmm
Eric (1:38:44)
I bet it's
better than Chicago Marathon medal.
Erika (1:38:47)
Stop.
Julianna (1:38:47)
Maybe.
Eric (1:38:49)
No, definitely.
Julianna (1:38:51)
I put the
Cape Cod Marathon above any race any day, so you could be like, yeah, but the only one I would probably be like, maybe not, it's like New York, I'd be like, maybe not.
Eric (1:38:58)
Which,
yeah, I agree.
Julianna (1:39:04)
New York is pretty great.
Eric (1:39:05)
I
love you. You're the best. This was a wicked awesome time. think our listeners are going to love it, This is awesome. Yeah.
Julianna (1:39:08)
I'm just...
I hope so, you know, maybe they'll
come run the Capecom Marathon. And like, seriously, I'll get you guys a discount code because Cathy will give you a discount code. we'll only for, yeah, if you sign up for a challenge, you get 10 % off. I'll have Cathy make us an on the runs code. We'll link it down below and you can come run the Chow to Challenge with the Woff's Challenge with us this year at the Capecom Marathon. It'd be a nice time.
Eric (1:39:19)
but only for one of the challenges.
Erika (1:39:19)
That'll be so fun.
Eric (1:39:32)
and we'll see you
for the 50th. Yes. Yes.
Julianna (1:39:36)
Yeah, and you can come back around the 50th. It's just like
our friends here, Eric and Erica, are gonna do. Hell yeah, dude.
Erika (1:39:39)
fun. Hell yes.
Eric (1:39:41)
Yes. Oh my God.
That was fun guys. I really hope you enjoyed this. That was so much fun. I, not, she's not the only one glowing. Erica and I are both glowing right now. Like smiling. My cheeks hurt. This was, this was a blast. I got, yeah. Guys. I hope you enjoyed that. Juliana Coughlin from the run a podcast on the, the runs podcast. That was wicked awesome.
Erika (1:39:52)
My cheeks hurt a little bit, yep.
Julianna (1:39:54)
We like to have a nice time, you know.
Erika (1:40:11)
Jilliana, thank you so much for coming on the podcast. We just think you're super awesome. I hope you're staying nice and warm on the Cape because it's got to be even worse than it is up here. And I hope that you're doing okay. I know you've had some like iffy medical stuff going on and just know that we love you and then we're thinking of you and, and we hope that you're recovering and just doing your thing. We love you.
Eric (1:40:33)
you catch that she bought like 70 pairs of shoes last year? Seventy? I-
Erika (1:40:38)
I mean, do normal people not do that? Because,
well, I didn't buy 70. Is that not a normal thing we're able to do?
Eric (1:40:46)
What? Unbelievable. Like where do you put them all? I was just like blown away when she said that it was insane. It was so much fun. That was a lot of fun with her. She has such a cool personality. ⁓ it's really neat to hear how involved she is with that Cape Cod marathon. And she like does almost everything.
Erika (1:40:52)
Amazing.
Yep. That's why I'm like jonesing to get down there. I know it's, it's the same weekend as Chicago. I'm already signed up for 2026, but 2027 I'm like, Nope, I am blocking this one out. Yep. We're going. We're going.
Eric (1:41:14)
blocking it off, blocking it off. Hey, let's,
let's go. Let's live podcast from the race or something. Let's do it. Like, let's get involved deep in the Cape Cod marathon. Let's like put on a show. Let's run some races. Let's do the laps. Do it in the chowder challenge. He's so much fun.
Erika (1:41:29)
I got dibs on the chowder
because that's the one with the marathon and I know you won't want to do it but the marathon
Eric (1:41:34)
I will, will. Hey, actually,
I have a marathon on the calendar for this November. It's penciled in because I don't know if I can make it work logistically yet. I can't, I'm not going to tell. No. No. No.
Erika (1:41:43)
Excuse me? This is news.
Which one? Manchester? It's Manchester. It's Manchester again. It's not? Why not? That
one's super convenient, and there's very little logistics.
Eric (1:42:01)
No one will ever guess this marathon. And no one will know until it gets closer. No one will ever guess.
Erika (1:42:05)
Challenge freaking accepted. You know what? I'm gonna, I know how to find,
I know how to find these things. I am a runner. I'm gonna spam you with like, I'm just gonna message you. This can be offline if you want it to be a secret, that's fine.
Eric (1:42:14)
You will never, you will never guess this.
It would take you
over a hundred guesses to figure this out.
Erika (1:42:26)
False. You said November. That narrows it down.
Eric (1:42:30)
Alright. You have no clue. The listeners have no clue. Listen, I... ⁓ my god, okay.
Erika (1:42:32)
Wait, me ask one question.
Is it in North America?
I can do this. I have a homework assignment that I'm actually excited about you guys.
Eric (1:42:56)
That's the rest of that talk, not giving it away.
Erika (1:42:58)
All right, well, hey, we don't have to talk.
Eric (1:43:00)
I need to see if I
can make it work logistically with...things.
Erika (1:43:03)
Okay, well, that's all we have for marathon talk and we talk Super Bowl. Can we get to... I'm proud of you. I didn't mean to sound disappointed, but...
Eric (1:43:08)
I also went running today.
And did you
see my workout yesterday? Unreal.
Erika (1:43:16)
Dude,
I love that you go hang out with the Recycle Percussion guys. Ryan and Justin, good for you. I'm go- I wish I lived closer.
Eric (1:43:20)
Dude, I feel so honored I get to go. Like, and what a crew he,
I'm like, I'm in part of this crew. I just feel so honored. And also I almost puked.
Erika (1:43:32)
Well, that means you're doing it right. So what kind of workout are we talking about here? So you do mostly like CrossFit, right? But it's like, mm-hmm. So tell me about it.
Eric (1:43:37)
All right. So yesterday, it's, it's, it's like CrossFit on another level.
Yesterday, it was a partner WAD. I worked out with a girl named Ashley. She's one of the dancers for his band. It was, uh, 60, 50, 40, 30. So we did like a, a, a, a, well, we did a ski machine and then we did for 50 cows and then we did 50 overhead dumbbell thrusters. And then you go.
Erika (1:43:49)
Mm-hmm.
60 of what? Just reps? Okay.
Eric (1:44:06)
40, 30, and like, so if it's 60, I do 10, Ashley does 10, I do 10 more, right? Then before we can start the next workout, we have to do 150 burpees. So the next workout was bike, like 60, 50, 40, 30 cowl with overhead lunges. And then you do another 150 burpees. Now team, so it's like you and I split the burpees, right?
Erika (1:44:12)
⁓
you lost me there.
Still 75 burpees apiece. Ugh. Mm-hmm.
Eric (1:44:35)
And when you're doing the burpees, I'm recovering. And then the last one was rowing for calories, 60,
50, 40, 30. And the workout on that one was, ⁓ ball slams. 20 pound ball, 30 pound ball. Yeah. I came really close to puking, but I'm back. I'm back. I'm getting stronger this year.
Erika (1:44:47)
see why he wanted to puke. ⁓ shit. How heavy was it? It was 20, 30 pounds? 30 pounds? Dude. I don't blame you. That sounds horrible.
Good. In November, which I will find out.
Eric (1:45:04)
And when I run that marathon.
I will be running for time.
Erika (1:45:11)
⁓ he's back, baby. He's going for it. He's going for it.
Eric (1:45:15)
If I can run
it, if not, I'm going to probably try to do like Clarence Del Mar or something.
Erika (1:45:20)
Well, let me say that that is an excellent choice. I have run that one myself and that is a very fun marathon. The like, it's got great perks and it's in Keen where some of our favorite people live. I E KJ KJ and Rob and all them Keen friends. Love, love you guys. So can I, can I, I have a fun thing for you this time. Okay. So last. I.
Eric (1:45:34)
Yeah, and we're going to meet more of them very soon.
Cool? Alright.
Are you actually gonna do something?
Erika (1:45:50)
have something planned. Okay, we were talking a little bit and yes, I know I didn't tell him. I did not tell him this at all. You guys, I didn't even tell him what this is about.
Eric (1:45:54)
This is new. Eric has taken over.
I was sad of you inviting
Carolina a couple of months ago, like this is, wow, you're s-
Erika (1:46:04)
Hey, I
try occasionally, but anyways, we were talking and I was like, I have a fun little game for you since you had that fun little football thing for me where I'm just very terrible. Yeah. Yeah. I did think that was fun.
Eric (1:46:06)
once a year.
What do you got?
when I did the logos? Okay. I'm gonna have a late night
editing. my god, I feel it already. Okay, what am I doing? Alright.
Erika (1:46:26)
This one's not that bad, but
we were talking Olympics a little bit. So I want to test your knowledge. Do not cheat. Do you do not cheat. We can make this a 60 second round or I can just give you all the time you want, but I just want to see how many Olympic winter sports you can name.
Eric (1:46:50)
Okay, down.
Erika (1:46:52)
Are we timing or are you just gonna go?
Eric (1:46:54)
Now time me. Make it timed. Let's go. Wait, are you gonna show me like the logo or do I have to just think of it? my god.
Erika (1:46:56)
All right, I'm gonna put.
You're just naming them.
I have a list. I have a freaking list. I'm going to put 60 seconds on my timer. There are 16.
Eric (1:47:08)
How many are there?
There's only 16 winter sports?
Erika (1:47:15)
at the Olympics.
Eric (1:47:18)
Really? I it'd be like 60. Okay. Okay. All right. Does it include like ice hockey? Men's and women's is two or is that one?
Erika (1:47:19)
Yeah.
No. All right. Are you ready for this?
We're just talking the sport itself. It's not men versus women, nothing like that. So just a sport. you just want 30 seconds. All right. 30 seconds on my clock. Ready, set, go.
Eric (1:47:34)
Okay, let's do like 30 seconds on the clock. Let's go. Tell me when.
Ice hockey. Figure skating. Skiing. Alpine skiing. Snowboarding. Half pipe. ⁓ Cross country skiing. The one where they shoot cross country skiing, they shoot guns. You gotta help me out here. Like if I say that, that counts. ⁓ curling. The greatest Olympic sport. ⁓
Erika (1:47:50)
Yes.
Do I? Biathlon, go.
Yup, keep going, keep going, five, four,
three, two.
Eric (1:48:17)
my god, my god, my god, ⁓ I don't know.
Erika (1:48:19)
That's it, that's
time. You did pretty good though. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, you got eight. You got eight. Do you wanna hear the full list? I thought this was kind of fun. There were 16, nah man. All right, we have Alpine Skiing, which you did name, correct? I think you named that one. Biathlon is the one where they shoot. They cross country ski and then they shoot. So I gave it to you. You forgot the bobsled man. I think it's bobsleigh now. They renamed it.
Eric (1:48:23)
I got eight.
Okay.
Yeah, is there really only 16? I thought there would have been like lot more.
Okay. Yeah. By Aflon. Okay.
Oh my god, and he got the luge
and the skeleton. Oh my god.
Erika (1:48:48)
Yeah, you forgot that whole area.
But you got cross-country skiing, curling, figure skating. Then there's freestyle skiing. That is kind of half-pipe, so I may give you that one. I think that's what they were going with with that. But ice hockey, then we have luge. The Nordic skiing, that's like cross-country too, isn't it? OK. There's short track speed skating. You didn't think of that one. Yep, skeleton ski jumping, which is...
Eric (1:48:59)
Okay.
That's cross-country, Is it?
⁓ yeah, that's so cool!
⁓ I would love to do that.
Erika (1:49:17)
not quite the same. And then there's this new sport,
which I'm really actually kind of excited to watch. It's called ski mountaineering. Have you heard of this?
Eric (1:49:25)
Yeah, that well, that's kind of like cross country skiing.
Erika (1:49:27)
You got to do that, but then you
have to like take your skis off, go upstairs, like go around and then you have to ski down and you have to like, you have this special like, not a film. I don't know what you want to call it, but you put it on the bottom of your skis so you don't slide backwards. And I've actually seen somebody do that before and it's pretty like, it's intense. All right. Then we have a snowboarding and I thought I already said speed skating. there's a short track versus long track. So they have it on there twice. So nice work though.
Eric (1:49:32)
Yeah.
Okay?
Yeah. Does that count as two
or one sport though?
Erika (1:49:56)
It lists this as two, so I do too.
Eric (1:49:59)
Cool. Only 16,
wow. Notice one thing though on that list. Those are some real sports. Not made up ones like break dancing.
Erika (1:50:03)
Mm-hmm.
You
know what though? I was looking at a thing, somebody had of course made a meme of it, that's why I saw it, but they're like, yeah, summer, it's like how fast can I run? How much can I swim? And then this was like, can I not die while like flying down a mountain and jumping off a ski? Like it is really death-defying like most of these. Let me slide head first down a frigging ice luge. Like, it's a lot of danger, a lot of danger.
Eric (1:50:29)
Yeah. You know, it was
cool. The Olympics just started and I feel like the Italy Olympics or not the Paris Olympics missed out a little bit and Italy did it right. The opening ceremonies for Italy seem like, or for Paris, seemed like such a miss. They went down that river. Everyone's on a boat. I I saw a bunch of video and pictures of the opening ceremony and it just seemed like, what a prideful moment.
Erika (1:50:44)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Eric (1:50:56)
all those athletes walking into that stadium. And that's what I remember as a kid. I remember watching the Olympics in 1992. In 1996, the Salt Lake ones, the opening ceremony in a stadium, such a, a, a big moment in, in Salt Lake, the 1980 Olympic team came out and lit the torch, right? The, the Paris one freaking failed. And I think Italy took notice of that and like, we can't do that. And like the Boston Bruins for one, posting photos of all the players.
Erika (1:51:03)
Hmm.
Eric (1:51:26)
David Passenot got to hold the flag for his country. You know, the Bruins players on team USA walking out there with all the other Americans. Like what a cool moment that is. Like you work as an athlete your whole life to get to that point. And for the ones for two years ago in Paris, didn't get to have that experience. I thought it was such a fail. So the opening ceremonies looked pretty cool in Italy. have not watched it in its entirety, but thankful for social media. Yeah.
Erika (1:51:29)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
That's true. You know what's cool though?
was long. It was really long. Yeah. But
what's cool is that I did see how they had the carrying of the torch. You can pass it off and whatnot. Courtney Dewalter got to do it this year for the winter. That is really cool.
Eric (1:52:05)
Yes. Well, that's so cool how it like,
yeah, it's super awesome when the Olympics will be in LA in two years. Right. And it will be really cool to see when that torch gets lit in Greece and it makes its way to the U S and see everyone who actually runs with it across probably, probably go East coast to West coast. So it would be really cool to watch that journey in a couple of years and see who gets to do it. You know, it's not just rock stars like Courtney do Walter, who is a rock star and I want her on this podcast. Anyone know her please.
Erika (1:52:13)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Eric (1:52:35)
tried, ⁓ but like even local heroes in your town, firefighters and people who are just, ⁓ big, big in a local community get to do it too. It's super cool. So, yeah, maybe, maybe it will come through New Hampshire and the on the runs podcast. We'll get to carry the torch.
Erika (1:52:35)
Ryan, banduser, let's help again. ⁓
Yeah, that is awesome.
we gotta hear about the...
We need the mics. We need the clip-on mics so we can record while we carry a torch.
Eric (1:53:00)
You know, Dale Earnhardt Jr. I'm buying those, by the way. They're in my cart. Dale Earnhardt Jr. got to do that. But he got to, it wasn't supposed to be him. It was supposed to be his dad.
Erika (1:53:04)
Cool.
Really?
Who is it supposed to be instead?
god, that's really sad. ⁓
Eric (1:53:14)
Right? And his dad
lost his life a few months before. So, yeah.
Erika (1:53:19)
that's wicked.
⁓ well, that's a downer. just.
Eric (1:53:23)
So, but.
I'm excited
for the Winter Olympics. This is the one I like more. The summer.
Erika (1:53:33)
I'm
gonna watch so much hockey, you guys. Kiss, kiss, kiss.
Eric (1:53:37)
Well,
you know what, if you like that show, which is called, what is it called again? Something rivalry? He did rivalry. You should check out Shorgy.
Erika (1:53:46)
I do like that show. Heated rivalry. Heated rivalry.
You know what? think I will because it's the same. Well, no, isn't it Letter Kenny or is it the same? ⁓ well, no, no, I thought you were going by it. So the guy who did, ⁓ yeah, he directed Heed to Rivalry and Letter Kenny, but isn't Shorzy a spin-off of Letter
Eric (1:53:58)
It has nothing to like, it's, it's absolutely opposite.
letter Kenny.
Wait, the guy from Letter Kenny
is... No he's not. It's not the same guy.
Erika (1:54:16)
Jacob
Tierney. Jacob Tierney.
Eric (1:54:19)
No, no, no. The letter Kenny guy is Jared something. Okay. Yeah. Check out Georgie. It's funny. It might not be everybody's humor, but you're into it. You're into it. It's great.
Erika (1:54:21)
Not the guy. I don't know who that is, but I'm talking about the director slash producer slash whatever.
Okay. I'm really in a hockey right now, you guys. I've ruined
many of my friends' algorithms. Sorry, not sorry.
Eric (1:54:40)
Erica keeps sending me spicy stuff now too.
Erika (1:54:43)
Like, we don't even send half the stuff to you anymore. Like, we're just like, Eric won't appreciate it. It's me and Lindsay and Tara.
Eric (1:54:49)
my God. Could we end this episode
on what I sent the other day? ⁓ my God.
Erika (1:54:54)
Sure. What did you...
Eric (1:54:55)
Okay. So I sent the group chat this one, what I thought was really funny skiing reel and the girls just asking like, is, the button, is the red light on like on my camera? And this is, this is the, this is the clip right here.
Erika (1:54:57)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
You
Eric (1:55:15)
like have you ever put a tab on it and then immediately forgot?
The person's just like, have you ever put a tampon in and immediately forgotten? She's like, no. And I thought like, yeah, who would forget sticking something up there like that? Like immediately after. And the three of you just went off. Like I'm going to read. ⁓
Erika (1:55:34)
Ugh.
He's like, God, God, I should not
be, no, this is a sanctity. You do not read group chat stuff. No, we just go into how it is not easy to be a woman and.
Eric (1:55:48)
I can't read this?
Okay. I won't say who, said this, but
the very first response was all the time. Thank God for the string. And I was like, are you serious? Being a girl ain't easy.
Erika (1:56:06)
Mm-hmm.
Telling you.
Eric (1:56:14)
I'm team anti-tampon and anti-pad. I'm team IUD.
Erika (1:56:20)
I bet you love being in a group chat with four other women. Like seriously, four women. And Eric.
Eric (1:56:25)
One person goes, I
haven't had a period in eight years. It's amazing. You just went off, went off. And then finally somebody says, Eric, are you glad you asked? said, guys, it wasn't supposed to go that deep. Erica goes, that's what she said. What do you think's going to happen when you ask for women that allergies on this chat too? She probably just saw this and let it go.
Erika (1:56:29)
That's cause it's just opportunity to chat.
You
Well, I had to. ⁓
I don't blame her.
Eric (1:56:54)
It goes on.
I'm just like, guys, guys, guys, guys, that's not what the chats for. You have your own chat.
Erika (1:57:00)
We do have our own channel too.
Eric (1:57:02)
Thank God. ⁓ my God.
Erika (1:57:04)
And it's now like 99 % heated rivalry memes and stuff. Sorry, not sorry.
Eric (1:57:08)
Okay.
You have anything else to contribute to this episode because I think we're done.
Erika (1:57:15)
I think we're done too. This was fun. Yeah, because I haven't talked to you in a week, basically. And a lot's happened between the Super Bowl and Olympics and.
Tired man.
Eric (1:57:30)
okay. I want to finish on one thing. I won. I think I mentioned earlier, like shine down.
And I've seen shined down many times. mentioned, love how, okay. So maybe I didn't mention this actually, but the other halftime show that was. Bullshit. And I'll never check out a clip. I hated that because it was just like an attack at like dividing the country. Right. I did not know shine down was on that list. And then they pulled out because they say, feel like this is a, an attempt to divide the country and where about uniting the country.
Erika (1:57:37)
Yes.
Yes.
Eric (1:58:05)
And I was so proud of Shinedown. You didn't know that?
Erika (1:58:06)
good for them. I had no idea. I had no idea
that... No, because I saw the list and it was basically three people I've never heard of and then, yeah, I don't know.
Eric (1:58:16)
I actually grew up liking Kid Rock,
who by the way has aged terribly for 55. And one of the country acts I saw at whatever the place is up in, we call it Meadowbrook, I don't know what it's called now, Bank of New Hampshire, thought it was a great show. But Shinedown pulled out for the right reasons. I was like damn proud, damn proud of that. So I love Shinedown, seen them three times. Another band I seen twice, including on my birthday, July 22nd, 2008, that we went.
Erika (1:58:30)
⁓ yep.
Good, good, good.
Eric (1:58:45)
All the way down to the tweeter center, Mansfield mass to see this band. Me, Dave Chapman, Matt Gantz and three beautiful girls back then. ⁓ we went and saw three doors down. Love three doors down.
Erika (1:58:47)
you went to the Twitter. Okay.
⁓
Eric (1:59:00)
And they're phenomenal. I could play them all the time. In fact, it's the only sometimes it's funny when somebody passes away or someone's in the news, like music wise, you start to hear their music everywhere and you just play it. You have Spotify play it and you have Alexa play it. Alexa play Three Doors Down. Right. And so I've been rocking out to Three Doors Down all weekend and they're so good. died. He was the lead singer. And I learned a few things.
Erika (1:59:14)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's like people you don't think about for a while and then you're like, man. Yeah.
Eric (1:59:28)
crib tonight, which is a song I overplayed way too much when I was 15. Um, he actually, was 13 because he was 15 when he wrote it in math class. learned that. That was pretty cool. But I remember, um, like nine months ago when he announced his diagnosis, like they're planning a whole summer tour and everything. And he came out and he announced like, Hey guys, got some bad news. And you can tell instantly like he's sick. Right. Some K had cancer cancer sucks.
Erika (1:59:32)
Mm-hmm.
Really interesting.
⁓
Yeah, what did he have? If I can ask. ⁓ that's sad.
Eric (1:59:58)
Right? I don't know what kind,
Erika (1:59:58)
Cancer sucks.
Eric (1:59:59)
but it was stage four when they found it. So he lived another nine months. You know what I actually kind of love? Is that was his last post from nine months ago. So he just shut it all down. He just did whatever he had to do with his family. So there was a picture, someone posted a picture of him and his wife from like maybe a month or two ago. He doesn't look that bad. He looks great actually, but he's just taking in all the family in the moments because he says he's 47. It's way too young.
Erika (2:00:05)
What?
Really?
⁓ that makes it even more sad.
⁓ so young.
Eric (2:00:28)
And so Three Doors Down, love them too, seen them a couple times, ⁓ phenomenal band. So guys, go and tell your Alexas and your Spotify this week, play some Three Doors Down. That's the kind of music I love. That's definitely not the kind of music you'll ever see in a Super Bowl show. Maybe it's like a side act, but like that's what I want.
Erika (2:00:45)
Well, I mean, they
had Green Day this Super Bowl, so yeah, why not?
Eric (2:00:49)
I can't do Green Day. Never. Never could do Green Day. Not a punk guy. Yeah. Green Day is not me. I actually, when did they play? thought they were... So they must have played before the game. Okay. Yeah. Because I remember seeing that. I thought it was going to be Bad Bunny and Green Day, which I also thought was weird combo. If they were together. Yeah.
Erika (2:00:58)
They opened. They opened. Yeah.
That would have been a little strange combo, but
now they opened the whole big show, so.
Eric (2:01:16)
Yeah. Anyways, go play some Three Doors Down, I remember saying how I knew a song they were going to open with. There was a song called Train, and they totally opened with Train. I love this song, It's Not My Time, and he bright ended that, that reel, that post, that video was saying, maybe right now we play a little bit of It's Not My Time. You know, so, great, great band. I know, I'm sorry. Save us. Take us home. Take us home. I'm sorry.
Erika (2:01:34)
God, this is making me sad. You always have to bring us down,
I'll forgive you.
Eric (2:01:46)
Enjoy the snow, go skiing guys, go running outside. It's easy in the sun. The wind is what will kill you. And, when I, ⁓ back on the pod next week, I'll talk to you more about amazing skiing cause it's going to keep snowing. And I might ski with a pod fan member. We'll see. Yep.
Erika (2:01:52)
Mmm.
But it's also going to be.
fun. Yeah, keep
us posted, man. But also, it's going to be in the high 30s this weekend. So hell yes. Yes. That's when you'll get me outside because that'll be a basic heat wave.
Eric (2:02:09)
It is gonna be beautiful. Get outside.
Do it.
Erika (2:02:17)
All right, guys, we got to wrap this up. This has been a little unhinged. This has been a really fun intro, outro session. But thank you guys for listening. As always, you know we love you.
Eric (2:02:28)
Don't fear the code brown and don't get all wrapped up in the comments guys. Go out there and enjoy what you like. Enjoy what you want to listen to. Don't care what all the other haters say.
Erika (2:02:41)
and don't forget to stretch.
Eric (2:03:32)
You know who'd be great for a halftime show, actually? I would be totally into this.
Erika (2:03:40)
⁓ fuck yes.
He's got so many bangers with so many different artists that he could make like a huge celebration concert. Like that would be so much fun.
Eric (2:03:52)
Yeah,
