241 | New England Dad, Zach Remi | Six Star turns 40

Episode 241 - The Story of the New England Dad, Mountain Runner, and Comedian Zach Remi. Join us for a lively conversation with Zach, a true embodiment of passion for the outdoors, comedy, and community. From mountain races in New Hampshire to stand-up standouts, Zach shares his journey, hobbies, and the joy of living life fully. Whether you're a runner, skier, or comedy lover, this episode is packed with fun stories, tips, and inspiration. 

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Main Topics Covered:

• Zach's roots in New Hampshire and growing up around the Seacoast
• His passion for mountain running, ultramarathons, and skiing in the Whites
• The journey into comedy, stand-up, and building a social media brand
• Unique hobbies like maple syrup farming and exploring outdoors with family
• Community involvement, races, and upcoming events like Ragged Mt. stage race
• Navigating content creation, social media trends, and audience engagement
• Family life as a full-time dad balancing adventure, work, and fun

In this episode:

• Zach talks about growing up in Kingston and Goffstown, NH, and his family
• How mountain running and ultra races like the Cirque series shape his outdoor adventures
• The story behind his meeting his wife and his secret to staying active
• His comedy career, starting with open mics and moving to paid gigs
• The significance of supporting local races and trail events
• His hobby of maple syrup production and its surprisingly low yield
• Passionate insights into skiing at Sunapee and Ragged Mountain
• Tips for content creation, social media growth, and engaging storytelling
• Exciting upcoming races, festivals, and collaborations with sponsors

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Birthday Celebrations
05:10 Experiences at the Salem Run Club
11:09 Zach Remi aka New England Dad
11:43 Introduction and Background
25:18 Running Community and Mountain Races
32:21 Exploring Unique Race Formats
38:25 Skiing and Skinning Experiences
45:34 Code Brown Stories: Unexpected Moments
58:32 The Rise of a New England Dad
01:07:02 Comedy Journey: From Teacher to Stand-Up
01:12:11 Navigating Small Crowds vs. Large Audiences
01:17:12 Finding Passion in Work
01:19:59 Content Creation and Audience Engagement
01:20:58 Hot Takes and Personal Opinions
01:28:02 Outro
01:29:14 Jared's Journey and Documentary
01:34:03 Introducing New Sponsors and Partnerships
01:37:57 Exciting Summer Plans and Events
01:43:57 Reflecting on the First Half of the Year
01:49:48 Looking Ahead: Future Episodes and Adventures

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Transcript

Zach Remi (00:00)
there's no beach like Hampton Beach in

in New England. You know, it's the only when you think about it, it's the only like true tourist beach in New England it's trashy, but it's our

Eric (00:15)
What's up, everybody? And welcome to episode 241 of the On the Runs podcast. And it was an incredible birthday weekend for Six Star. Mama and Donnie Hamill flew in. The Goss Town Galut was a huge success. Summertime is officially here, and it's getting hot out there for our afternoon runs. We gotta

Wicked awesome guests on today's episode and so much more. But before we get to any of that, I must say hello to the birthday girl herself. Welcome to the 40s, six star. What's up?

Erika (00:43)
What do you mean? I'm 29. 29 forever. 29? 29.

Eric (00:47)
Twenty nine Twenty nine

Erika (00:57)
I said that to somebody at ⁓ so after I saw you, I had a nice little get gathering at Spyglass. It was mostly my parents' friends. And they're like, how old are you turning? And I literally, I'm wearing the 40 sash that that Tara got me. I have like the crown, it says 40. And I go, I'm 29. She believed me. I was like, yes.

Eric (01:16)
⁓

Well good. Good. Yeah. Two forty's the new 30. I really think it is. Like like for 40 year olds when we were kids, like our parents when they're 40s, no offense. Like we are not that. We are not that.

Erika (01:17)
If I could still pass, I'm all set.

I'll take it. I I feel great.

Mm-hmm. no no. I feel like

I feel like it's clothes and hairstyles that like are helping us. It it works in our favor.

Eric (01:37)
Also like

just care and and knowledge and yeah. So my hairstyle is in right now too, so I'm doing pretty good. When I grew up my dad had a mustache for the longest time. And I I think didn't Donnie Hamill have one? Yeah. It's it's it but like a goatee. Yeah. But it's like he could still do the stash, but like I I I don't know, I picture him.

Erika (01:40)
Mm. yeah. Yep. The amount of fucks we have to give.

Mm-hmm.

He still has he's got like the the whatchamacallit. It's not a fumanchu. Yeah, there there you go. It's a goatee. I thought it was something fancy. Mm-hmm.

Eric (02:06)
A lot of people around Father's Day post pictures of like them as kids with their dads and they all have these mustaches, like really good mustaches too.

Erika (02:11)
Mm-hmm.

It's like the Tom Selleck, isn't that what it is? Like the big bushy Tom Selleck mustache. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's eighties. That's it just screams eighties. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Those were the days.

Eric (02:15)
Yeah, exactly. They all had the Tom Stellick. Yeah.

80s, early 90s, yeah. So ⁓ how was

your birthday weekend? Let's dive in. ⁓ I did not disappoint you, I hope.

Erika (02:31)
Of course not. No, I had a wonderful weekend and you helped ⁓ everybody who showed up to the gallop just made my day so special. And I I cannot thank everybody enough. Like I've got such a great community around me, yourself included. Like you just you make me feel so loved. And like I can't wait to to pay it forward and just you guys are you guys are all amazing. I don't even know what to say.

Eric (02:56)
Well, it was fun. ⁓

I took Adeline to cheer camp in the morning and then I drove to the top of the hill. I'll tell you, I had this whole plan. I had the speaker and I was gonna play music and I was gonna drive in front of you playing breaking a sweat. And as I'm but as I'm setting the speaker up, I was like having second thoughts because there's a lot of people around and I don't want to be that guy. And then as I get the speaker thinking I'm just gonna play some music and drive in front of you.

Erika (03:00)
Mm-hmm.

yeah.

⁓ I kind of ruined your plan.

⁓

Eric (03:25)
Then you run by me sooner than I expected because you said, Screw my friends, screw party pays. What were you going for? Like a world record or something?

Erika (03:27)
Yeah.

No, I just after like my I was feeling a little off after grandma's. Like I was just like, I know I have so much more potential to give in myself. And I didn't I didn't perform the way I had hoped I would have. So I I had talked to like I I told Carolina about it. I told Tara about it. And I'm just like, I need to go for it. Like just for me. I need to just see what I can do out there. Cause I've conquered this course. This was my 18th time, 18th year. So I mean, well

Technically 17, but I count 18 doing the Golf Sound Gallop, even though they had a they had a virtual one year. But I've run it so many times. I know this course, I know how bad it can suck. And I'm just like, I just need a little validation. Like turn it for a new age group. I don't know. What can I do? So I just I went for it.

Eric (04:15)
Right, right.

Okay.

I think it's okay because it wasn't like you had a group of a dozen people showed up to party pace with you. Because if you did, I would have like, no, you gotta hang out with the people who came for you. But the people who came, there was like four, five, six, seven, and ⁓ they all ran their own race. Rachel and Tara ran together. It was funny, someone made a comment. I think Rachel did like the side by side in the photos. Speaking

Erika (04:25)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Mm. Mm. Yes. Mm-hmm.

She just had to pick tall

friends. I don't know what to tell her. We're all tall.

Eric (04:46)
We are. When you take pictures of you,

me, Lindsay, and Tara together, we look normal. When you put someone else in it, it's like we're monsters.

Erika (04:54)
my

god, her comment made me laugh so much. She was like, I swear I'm five at least five feet tall. And we're like, Well, we're we're on the the upper end of the five feet there. Uh-huh. Nah.

Eric (05:01)
We're on the six foot side. I just hit six feet. I think I technically sh

went under six feet when I sh started to shave my head.

Erika (05:09)
That hair counts, man. huh. ⁓

Eric (05:10)
Yeah, it did count. Now I'm six feet on a brand new pair of shoes and after they

get some miles on them I'm back to five eleven and eleven like sixteenths or something. Yeah.

Erika (05:19)
Yep. I'm I'm five

nine, but you know those Ufos that we just got not too long ago. Those those add a couple inches to me. Like I am enormous. Yes, we do.

Eric (05:23)
Ooh. We gotta we gotta shout out our friends Ufos and in the outro

we're definitely gonna shout them out more because they're coming on as a product sponsor, not a big deal. But thank you to Ufos. that that's incredible. We'll talk about that later. Let's continue on your birthday. You then did go out and it was nice that Shauna showed up to the g gallop and then she went out with you after. And Danielle did a triathlon that morning, a sprint, let's be fair, so she had time.

Erika (05:34)
Yes.

Mm-hmm. Yes.

Yeah.

No, she did the

Olympic. A little bit a little bit better than the Spurs. Yeah. She did. She did.

Eric (05:53)
she did?

Nice. But she still made it to spyglass. So that that

was cool. So you had all your parents' friends and then Shauna and Danielle. So Yeah. And then Yeah.

Erika (06:03)
Pretty much. It was it was a a nice small gathering, but beautiful day.

It was it was hot in the morning for the race though, so it was we were roasting out there and ⁓

Eric (06:10)
Yes. It was perfect

to go in the lake if people wanted to. It felt like yeah, it felt like as as as huge as a success the Gallup was, the forty seventh annual. So as huge as it was, it just didn't feel as big numbers wise as the year. It was really hot and we all jumped in the lake. Yeah.

Erika (06:15)
I I wish I did, but I didn't.

Yeah, yeah.

That's true. I feel

like there was only like I think pre registered there were only a hundred and forty-four. And in the in previous years we got it up to like two fifty. So next year we'll make it even bigger, you guys. No, no pressure because it's not on my birthday. It's just around my birthday. You guys can come or go. It's up to you. Of course, of course.

Eric (06:43)
There you go. There you go.

Yeah. Well you're you're gonna be there, we know that. Could be a marathon

in Alaska, Antarctica, Great World Race, could be any of those things. If it's on the gallop, Eric will be at the gallop.

Erika (07:02)
I'm putting my foot down, you guys. This is my race. This is mine. So

Eric (07:06)
It's world

major worthy, some might say. Whi which Well

Erika (07:09)
I mean, call it nostalgia, call it whatever you want. It's my it's my

hometown comfort race.

Eric (07:16)
Well, I say that because we had some rankings. I went to the Salem Run Club and I was running next to, I think it was Lianna, one of the founders of the run club. And she's like, I ran all three. I was like, hold on. Can I take out my phone and can you rank them? Not knowing what number she was gonna give. Yeah, I did not know.

Erika (07:25)
Mm-hmm.

You always have to be like C6 star. Uh-huh. Well, I've said it

I've said it before. I love Chicago mostly because that's the city I like to visit the most. Like the it's very walkable. You can see a lot of things. I I don't know. I I just enjoy it so much. So the horse is awesome. it's fantastic. Yeah. I I never have like a bad experience there. So it's just

Eric (07:45)
Keep changing your reasons. Hey, she said the food in Chicago is number one. Yeah.

Erika (07:57)
I feel like it takes a lot more effort in New York City if you want to like go to different places. Like you gotta get on the the subway and yada yada and everywhere else is just walkable. So

Eric (08:05)
Yep. Nope.

New York I thought was too big as far as everything was spread out. But but speaking of not a bad experience, I had an amazing experience at the Salem Run Club. I finally made one. You were doing your birthday baseball game, like we should talk. You go to a baseball game every year for your birthday, and then then the Puritan backroom. But I went to the Salem Run Club, and you gotta come check this out. This is dude, I'm t I'm telling you.

Erika (08:08)
It's big. It's very big.

Mm.

Mm-hmm.

I can't wait next time.

Eric (08:32)
Like this is fun for me right now. And it'll be fun for you, me, Tara. Frank was there from Back in Action. Steve 305 was there. This would be a blast for our crew and our age group. It's also like amazing if you're single. Let me tell you guys, if you're single, this is this is the spot to be, guys and girls. And what a cool community they built there. And it's I thought this run club was brand new, like started this year. Apparently not. In August, they'll be three years old and they're hoping to do like a big

Erika (08:38)
Mm-hmm.

Eric (09:02)
Third year anniversary on one of the Thursdays. So so well, you need to come before because I want to I want to paint the picture for you. Imagine this beautiful outdoor like Sam Adams dining, not dining, but just socializing area. Bunch of picnic tables and a bar, then like a food truck to the side. Super social.

Erika (09:04)
No way. I had no idea. Well, I count me in, man. Count me in. Say less. Mm-hmm.

Eric (09:26)
We can they they would love for us to do this and I wanna do it. And it's just like for us to do a real episode. Like just put four microphones down at one of these picnic tables and have people come in and out. But I need you to come and see this before because I think you need to see it to be like, yeah, this is gonna be just so much fun with all the background ambiance. And so they're hoping to do a big event for the third year anniversary in August. I think it'll be like it'll end up being like the Thursday before you go to Sydney.

Erika (09:36)
Amen. Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

All right. I will save the date.

Eric (09:55)
Because the Thursday yeah,

the Thursday before that is the Delta Dental Elliott five K.

Erika (10:02)
feel like that's two thirds the so that the del no, that is it the delta dental or the Elliot? Delta Dental Elliot keeps changing. Yes, that is early.

Eric (10:08)
It's the Delta Dental Elliott. That's on a Thursday. The following Thursday

I think will be the third year party. And then the next week, like three days later, you fly to Australia.

Erika (10:19)
⁓ I leave on the twenty fourth. That fe that feels like a couple of weeks in between. Either way, I r I digress. I'm there.

Eric (10:26)
I got a calendar.

We have a calendar. You should view the calendar and the show notes. Like these are things we are trying to get you to do. Then email the guest after. And you should email this guest a day after the episode drops because he is wicked awesome. Six star. Who do we have on the podcast today?

Erika (10:30)
trying I'm trying to look at it right now. I'm trying to do it right now. ⁓

Yeah.

Yeah.

My apologies, Zach Remi for dropping the ball and not emailing you sooner. But we were so excited to get a chance to chat with you. Not only are you amazing on social media, but finding out that you are a runner and you do all those awesome mountain races, I think that is incredibly cool. I'm so glad we got to talk about it. And I can't wait for our listeners to check it out.

Eric (11:05)
This is my kind of guy. He skis, but he also runs up mountains for fun.

Erika (11:06)
Mm-hmm.

He is just like you. He takes like the off season and he's like, I'm gonna I'm gonna do this instead. And I all the kudos to you guys.

Eric (11:13)
Yeah. My my favorite part.

Yeah. And my favorite part of this whole thing is you wouldn't know this, but he never had a smartphone until COVID. And for some reason, he's like he finally had to convert. He used a flip phone like four years ago, guys. So, and then all of a sudden, he's the New England dad we all know and love. So, guys, enjoy Zach Remi the New England dad, on the On The Runs podcast, and we'll see you on the other side.

Erika (11:25)
I mean that takes some some skill.

I love it.

Eric (11:44)
Our next guest on the pod is a wannabe farmer who loves to make us all laugh with his wicked awesome New England content. Many of you know him as our own New England dad, but he's also an amazing dad of three, a skier, a runner, and he loves the outdoors just as much as us. He's also from the greatest state in the world, New Hampshire. Needless to say, we are wicked excited to have Zach Remy to the On the Runs podcast. What's up, dude?

Zach Remi (12:06)
How we doin'? I am also wicked excited, guys. Thanks for having me.

Erika (12:10)
Yes.

We it's nice to have somebody who actually knows how to use the word wicked with the accent and everything.

Eric (12:12)
It's like

Zach Remi (12:16)
Ha

Eric (12:19)
He's

like, Eric, get through one of these intros, man. It's been so long. ⁓ dude, I'm I'm wicked pump because I've been following you for a long time and doing my research, I realized we're neighbors. Not today, but we grew up neighbors. I grew up in Sandown, you grew up in Kingston.

Zach Remi (12:22)
you did great. You did great.

Erika (12:22)
Yeah.

Zach Remi (12:29)
Thank you.

Yeah, so you went to Timberland? Nice. I was class of O four at Sanborn. I bet we knew some of the same people, I'm sure.

Eric (12:39)
I went to Timberlane, class of O four.

Yeah.

Not only that, I was curious as I'm mowing the lawn today, prepping for the show in my head, and I'm thinking like, I gotta write this stuff down, but did you ever go to Camp Lincoln?

Zach Remi (12:51)
Yeah.

yeah. I w well, like once I did. We used to go there for like events and stuff, but my my parents d we didn't really go to camp much. but yes, I I mean I grew up down the street from it basically.

Eric (13:11)
I was thinking, you know, we had to probably be in the same cabin or something if we both went to camp there 'cause 'cause we're the same age. That was

Zach Remi (13:14)
Ha ha yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. Was

it a was it an overnight camp? yeah, that's what I thought. Yeah yeah okay yeah. Gotcha. Yes. Yeah.

Eric (13:19)
It was a day camp, like the bus would come to Sandown. Yeah. Yeah. Little YMCA camp, Erica, that ⁓ I don't know if they had Yeah.

Erika (13:26)
⁓ you guys had more fun than me. Goughtown didn't do shit.

Eric (13:29)
Yeah. But you're a New England guy, born not born and raised in Kingston, but grew up there, right?

Zach Remi (13:35)
Well yeah, I was born in Haverell, technically. At the old Hale Hospital. Were you born in Ha were you born and raised in Sandown? We're getting into the nitty gritty here.

Eric (13:44)
⁓ well

Erika (13:46)
Ha ha ha.

Eric (13:47)
I was not born in a farm in Sandown. No, we so a lot of us, Erica's not included, but a lot of I feel New Hampshire transplants come from just south in mass. We're all mass holes. Our parents are all mass holes. So my dad's my dad's actually from Gloucester. He's a Gloucesterman.

Zach Remi (13:57)
Yes, yeah.

Erika (13:59)
Yeah.

Zach Remi (14:02)
yeah.

I taught in Gloucester for a few years. Give me one second.

Eric (14:05)
Yeah, you're a teacher too.

But I was I was born in the best city of Boston and ⁓ a couple years in Raleigh and then we moved to Sandown and had a great time. So my parents are still there, love it. And we could probably throw Tom Brady could throw a football from my house in Sandown probably to Kingston. That's how close. So as us though.

Zach Remi (14:17)
Nice.

Yes, yeah. I have f I

Erika (14:24)
Not too shabby.

Zach Remi (14:26)
have a bunch of friends that live in Sandown now. It's growing. Yeah. Yeah, Erica, you're not from New Hampshire?

Erika (14:28)
Thanks.

Eric (14:29)
Yeah. Yeah. ⁓

Erika (14:32)
No, I am, but just not that part of New Hampshire. I grew up in Goffstown. Yeah, yes. Okay. So sh yeah, sh that's just what, more north than you guys. And you guys are more sea coasty a little bit, closer that way. Mm-hmm.

Zach Remi (14:35)
you're from Goffstown, yes. My my wife's from Manchester.

Yeah, yeah. I grew

up going more into mass than like, you know, she she was like a more classic went up to you know, the the mountains and stuff. I was more like went into mass for all my things that we needed. Went to the beach more, that type of upbringing. Hampton Beach a lot, especially as a teenager. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Erika (14:59)
Mm-hmm.

⁓ Hampton. The place to be.

Eric (15:07)
Yeah. Wasn't that far a drive. Was she the

one who got you into the outdoors as much as you are? Because you you weren't that way as a kid, were you? You're more just like an athlete, maybe were you would you call yourself a jock?

Zach Remi (15:17)
Yeah, I

yeah, I was definitely like I played sports growing up. ⁓ never like really ran at all. ⁓ my da I would say my da like we liked hiking, like we kinda both but my dog is really like what got me into like spending a lot of time on my feet. And now he's and now he's thirteen, so it's kinda sad 'cause he's not he's staying home now and I'm still out there and so

Erika (15:38)
That's pretty cool.

⁓

Zach Remi (15:47)
That's kind of bittersweet, but

Erika (15:47)
Aw.

around like you get the peer pressure from your friends, your family to get out and do stuff, but we we don't usually hear that your pet is getting you out to to be on your feet and enjoying outdoors. So this is kind of refreshing.

Zach Remi (15:56)
yeah.

Yeah, well

we he's a Husky and at the time when we got him we were in the s we were in Salem Mass in like ⁓ you know, at an apartment. So I just like felt the obligation to like get him out and you know, get him exercise and then I just, you know, started running and then picked up more hiking and the mountains and stuff and so and now I just love to do it on my own.

Erika (16:03)
⁓

Yeah.

Hmm.

Eric (16:24)
the dog, what was the story then behind that? Was it, was someone like,

You gotta get your dog out or you like, I gotta get my dog out. What will we do? 'Cause in Haverill, 'cause I would run cross country at Timberlane. We always went to Haverill and is there a place called is it like Winnie Kinney Castle Park? We always did those trails and that's where I took my dog when I had her as a puppy to start.

Zach Remi (16:37)
Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, those are great trails. Yeah, we actually were living in like Salem Mass and Beverly at the time. So it was just kinda like yeah, knowing that if I wanted this dog that I had to exercise him a lot and then and then I just like grew to kinda love it, you know, and that was, you know, over ten years ago, so

Erika (17:08)
wow. Well, all I know from from seeing some of your social media, which is awesome by the way, you do some of the crazy mountain races up in New Hampshire.

Zach Remi (17:14)
No thanks.

Yeah.

Yeah, so I'm lit with the six three group like in Sunope and ⁓ like every Tuesday like we run the mountain, so and they've been doing it more than I have lately 'cause I've been the past year ever since we had our third kid I've been like on my own schedule, so it's ⁓ but I'm trying to get back into like a normal routine.

Erika (17:23)
Mm.

Zach Remi (17:43)
So it is. Yeah, I was good for like the first year and then like, you know, once they can start moving around it's like a lot it's more work for everybody. Yeah. you're nice. Yep. Yep. okay, yep.

Eric (17:43)
It's such a balance, dude. Speak right now.

It it really is, because I got three of my own and I went from one to three like that. There was no one, two, three. There's twins. But

Erika (18:01)
Ha ha

Eric (18:03)
but like now I used to always run with friends. I used to always run with Erica in this college group. Erica and I went to Plymouth State. I think did you go to Keene? Yeah, so we could talk a little Plymouth versus Keene, but but now I run by myself.

Zach Remi (18:12)
I did, yeah. Don't hold it against me.

Erika (18:13)
Yeah.

Eric (18:20)
Any chance I can get. And I sacrifice even like a warm-up time just to get out. And sometimes this winter, because I you and I kind of connected over the winter. And I was skiing a lot. You're skiing a lot. I'm just like, I got three hours. I'm gonna shoot up to the mountain and ski for 90 minutes, then come straight home. Just get me time. Like that's the hardest thing, is just to get like some you time. And for some people that's running, and some people like me and you, right? It's get out there and hike or get up there and ski.

Zach Remi (18:37)
Yeah. Yeah.

Erika (18:44)
Self care. Mm-hmm.

Zach Remi (18:48)
Yeah.

Eric (18:48)
Like

how how are you juggling that right now? Like are you able to find time for yourself?

Zach Remi (18:53)
Well, that was like a huge ⁓ motive in moving up here is just like the access, you know, to the outdoors and stuff was like a big reason that we pulled the trigger on moving out of mass and up here. Ca I'm like a mile from the Greenway, which is like a sixty mile loop that goes like ragged Sunapiak here, Sarsh. So there's just like a ton of trails and ⁓

So it's like yeah it's the getting to like the running groups and like the structured things is what is what's difficult 'cause it's like at dinner time, bedtime, you know. So I'm more of like I'm finding like you are, I'm finding like an hour during the day, you know, i in between work and just getting outside and, you know, getting exercise in. But it is worth it 'cause I would lose my mind otherwise. So

Erika (19:34)
Mm-hmm.

Gotta do what you gotta do.

Eric (19:39)
Yeah.

Yeah. I'm the

Erika (19:50)
Yeah.

Eric (19:51)
same there. What are you doing for work? Because I know, all right, let's talk about a few things here. We're all over the map. We should have got to know you first. We'll do that. We'll go back in time and get to know you in a second. But you you're also a maple farmer. Like, is that your full time thing?

Zach Remi (19:57)
Yeah.

Erika (19:58)
Well, we know where he was born and we can pick up from there, yep.

Zach Remi (20:02)
Yeah.

No,

tot that's a total hobby. ⁓ we only produced like ten gallons this year, so not something well, ten gallons is a lot of maple syrup when you think about it. But like we'll probably go through a gallon a year as a family. So everything else is like gifted and stuff. But yeah, it's a total hobby. And it's not really something that you know it's

Eric (20:14)
Is it for your just for the house?

Erika (20:18)
That's lot.

Eric (20:20)
Okay.

Zach Remi (20:34)
Not something I wanna get into making money off of. It's a har we have a sugar shack. We bought a house and the previous owner built a sugar shack. So we got like yeah, it's nice. It's in cloth yeah, yes. Yeah, it's all it was all ready for me, so

Erika (20:37)
How did you get into that as a hobby?

Have fun.

Set you up pretty well.

Cool,

cool.

Eric (20:53)
Did you know anything going in? Were you like blind like YouTube at all?

Zach Remi (20:55)
Nothing. I did yeah,

Erika (20:57)
He's out there reading like sh sh making maple syrup for dummies, like, okay.

Zach Remi (20:57)
I had no idea I did read I did read like some books and stuff and talk to a lot. Like everybody does it around here. ⁓ so that benefits me. But like when we moved up here, I you know, w we knew we wanted to like do some type of ⁓ hobby farming, but I didn't even like think about maple syrup. I mean and you know, and then we found this house with a sugar shack and I was

Erika (21:07)
Mm-hmm.

Zach Remi (21:25)
My eyes lit up. I was like, Ooh, it's a possibility I hadn't even thought about.

Erika (21:26)
How about that?

Eric (21:31)
Now is your wife all in? Is she all in on this?

Zach Remi (21:34)
She yeah, I mean all in as far as you know, she allows me the time to do it. Yeah, I mean all in as far as like she, you know, allows me the time to do it and stuff. She's not a hu yeah. Some of the kids have started the boys have started to help. They're seven and five and they're like just starting to, you know, at least not be a nuisance outside while you're getting work done type of thing. So

Eric (21:38)
Or is she like, here goes Zach again on another crazy thing?

Erika (21:47)
That still counts.

Yeah.

Eric (22:03)
mine are still

there. I took the forty-five minutes I had for myself today with no kids to mow the lawn. Cause my kids love to go and grab little branches from the tree and throw it in front of the lawn mower. And I'm like, no, dude, it's gonna kick back in your face and you're not gonna be happy. Yeah. So two boys and a girl, right? Yeah, so your boys are probably like mine, absolute monsters, menaces, like causing trouble, getting in the way.

Zach Remi (22:05)
Yeah.

Yep, I've been doing that too.

yeah.

Nice. Nice.

Yeah.

Erika (22:22)
⁓

Zach Remi (22:30)
Yeah. They just Yeah,

it's like WrestleMania at my house.

Erika (22:35)
Yeah.

Eric (22:35)
Yeah. And then your

now your wife is from Manchester. We we talk on occasion here, like we wanna know how you got to meet your wife. And I think this is actually a cool story because you didn't know your wife was interested in you at the time, right?

Zach Remi (22:39)
Yeah.

yeah, how do you know this? You you've really done your research. Yeah,

Eric (22:52)
Yeah.

Erika (22:54)
He deep dives, man.

Zach Remi (22:59)
yeah, yeah. We were work yeah, we were work it was like I had just graduated from Keene and I was like, you know, how you are.

Eric (22:58)
Tell me this story, man. I love these stories.

Zach Remi (23:10)
like take on I thought I was like gonna move across country. I was applying to like all these different so I had no like thoughts of like ⁓ I wanna you know meet somebody right now. So we started this job together. We were both lifeguards at Newton Town Beach in Newton, New Hampshire. You'll get I mean you can imagine how small that is. And ⁓ yeah it took all summer and finally like ⁓ I like kinda you know

Erika (23:40)
Yeah.

Zach Remi (23:40)
got

the fluff out of my brain for for a week and and asked and asked her out. And she had another year of school. She wa she was going to school in New York City, so I did the whole like, you know, going back and forth for the year kind of too. So yeah, taking the mega bus. Yeah. The Fung and the Fung Wa. Yes, it was it wa it was my mom that that told me that I should ask her out.

Eric (23:44)
Now was it

Erika (23:44)
Well.

Eric (23:55)
To New York City.

Erika (23:59)
God. That's commitment.

Eric (24:01)
Now was it was it your mom?

Zach Remi (24:10)
Yeah. Where did you hear this story? I'm trying to think of where I told this story.

Eric (24:14)
You I

I I I take in a lot of ⁓ content when I am prepping for someone and I came across you shared that story to somebody. I love it because because your mom was like she's on vacation in like the Bahamas and she's calling you.

Zach Remi (24:22)
Gotcha. Okay.

I might

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it wasn't much of a you know, I just had I I well yeah. It wasn't where my head was for sure, so but it all worked out.

Eric (24:46)
It did. Three kids later, beautiful farm.

Erika (24:46)
I I just

Zach Remi (24:47)
Yeah. Yeah.

Erika (24:49)
I just love this because Eric's like all prepared and Zach's like, What the hell? Like how, how even Creeper status is like off the charge.

Zach Remi (24:53)
Ha ha ha.

Eric (24:55)
You know more about me than I know about myself.

Zach Remi (24:57)
Yeah.

Eric (24:59)
Well, let's talk running then. Cause you you Yeah, this is a running podcast, but you were you were pumping the tires hard when we first started started chatting about your community in Sunnepe. You're in a run club, you and your wife and the and I think you even take the kids. You do a lot of the 6032. So

Erika (25:02)
We are running podcast, right?

Eric (25:18)
We've seen you do some of these races. Tell us a little bit about the Sonopee running community and tell us like do is there a race, a story you got of one of those mountain races that will get Erica excited to do one one day.

Zach Remi (25:32)
My yeah, my my my wife doesn't run at all actually. She's ⁓ she bikes. So she's done like the Proutie up here and stuff like that. ⁓ but yeah, so she's a cyclist. but yeah, I mean the run club's great. it they literally we literally run the mountain every Tuesday. And that's like year round. So in the winter we skin up like on our skis.

Erika (25:32)
Well, he does mountains and stuff and I'm trying not to be afraid of that. ⁓

Zach Remi (26:00)
⁓ but yeah, it's like different.

Eric (26:02)
Is it the same group?

Same group, skins that runs?

Zach Remi (26:05)
Pretty much, yeah. I mean it'll fluctuate, you know, different people at different times of year, you know, but pretty much the same people. I mean it's not a huge community around here. So and then ⁓ you know the six three races. I did a bunch. I've done a bunch and then last year they did the new races, I can't the Cirque series. Those were sweet.

Erika (26:30)
I've never even heard of those. I'm gonna need you to elaborate.

Zach Remi (26:31)
Yeah, so ⁓

they they just did these new race circ series. They did last year was I did Cannon and Killington. ⁓ but it started out west. They have like a bunch of out west. Julia I don't know if you know Julian Carr. He's like a professional skier, but he puts on these races. ⁓ and this year they're doing the same too, and then they have one at J in September too. And it's ba

Erika (26:45)
Mm-hmm.

So what do you do? Do

you just like run up?

Zach Remi (26:59)
It's called the Cirque

series 'cause you literally like run like the circle of the so you like run and it's like makes a circle. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's great though, yeah. I l I I much prefer to be out in the woods than I do being I and ⁓ no I avoid it like the plague. They are, yeah. I mean the Cirque series ones are. The six three's are like all over the place and

Erika (27:15)
So not a road runner guy at all.

Eric (27:19)
And these are all on are they all on ski mountains?

What's your ⁓ sorry? What's your favorite mountain to run up then? Because I I run up, I live not too far from McIntyre's little tiny hill. We'll call it a hill. But I'll go run up Carousage maybe once a year. We'll go do Pac-Manadnock. I've yet to run up Ragged. I've yet to run up Sunnepe. J Peak's my favorite ski mountain of all time. So I want to run that. But like you've run up these. Tell me a little bit about running up these mountains. And like, are you going up the ski trail? Are you going on like a side path through the woods, like through the glades?

Zach Remi (27:29)
There's a lot of what's up?

Yeah.

Eric (27:59)
Are you running up like the service road?

Zach Remi (28:02)
At Sun at Sunapee it's like all all different. ⁓ there's a few different routes and one is like the summit trail and that's basically just like in the woods the whole time. And then there's like mixes of both. I don't I I don't really love I go down the access road sometimes 'cause you can just like motor down, which is nice, but going up's like you're in the sun the whole time usually and stuff like that.

⁓ ragged's like I haven't run from the front side of ragged, but the backside's pretty much like just a hike really. There's not a lot of runnable terrain. I love that Kearsarge run. Are you talking about the ten mile one?

Erika (28:37)
Mm.

Eric (28:44)
I I have only done the auto road version. I was training for Mount Washington, but but I I want to try. I took Erica to McIntyre and I showed her how there's these trails. It's not just the road, there's this back road that you can run up, but there's also trails. And I'm starting to run up the trail portion to the top of the mountain to get more like more as we call here DTF, which is driveway to forest trails.

Zach Remi (28:47)
Okay. Yep.

Yeah.

Nice.

Nice, I like it.

Eric (29:13)
Wait, so you're running up a tr more of like ⁓ a trail that would be in the in a glade when you're at I I use glade but through the forest when you're going up carrassage.

Erika (29:21)
King stuff.

Zach Remi (29:24)
So the ten miler at Kearsarge is it starts like at the high school. ⁓ all the way down low. ⁓ so I think it's like twenty four hundred feet elevation gain too. It's it's it's a great one. ⁓ and it a lot of it's runnable, which is nice. A lot of Sunapee runnable too.

Eric (29:45)
And then

Erika (29:45)
It's funny you

you talk about like living in the the ragged area. I have a friend who is training for the ragged seventy-five, like that stage race is coming up. And just what I hear from her, I'm terrified for her 'cause it sounds so difficult. And especially if you factor in like cutoff times and stuff, I'm just like, Good for you.

Zach Remi (29:53)
Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. I

Yeah.

It's funny you'll talk to those people. I have not done that race yet, but all the people around here, a lot of them have. And they'll all be like, Yeah, the three days easier than the fifty K and I'm like, How is that possible? Like, 'cause the fifty K you if you do the seventy five you gotta do the fifty K on the last day. So and they're all like, Yeah, you're just like I don't know.

Erika (30:08)
Mm-hmm.

⁓

Yeah. Exactly.

Zach Remi (30:29)
I've done yeah, I don't I still don't under really understand it. I think that's like that's something people just say, maybe. Yes, it does, yeah. I don't know how that's possible. The first two days I have heard are much more like scenic. ⁓ because the third day goes from Sunnepe to Ragged and it's a lot of ⁓ like it's a lot of flat fire road type of thing.

Erika (30:35)
Sounds a little backwards to me too. Like it wouldn't you be totally exhausted and like then you have to do that.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

So you can actually

do some running, yeah. Good, good.

Zach Remi (30:58)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Eric (31:01)
Now, do you you mentioned some people do the three day versus the fifty K. Are you saying like some people can do the whole thing and then some can just do the fifty K on the final day?

Zach Remi (31:10)
It's you can it's two options, yeah. It's the ragged seventy five or the fifty K.

Erika (31:16)
It's a stage race, Eric. So they like actually do camping up there and so like day one you got yeah.

Zach Remi (31:18)
Yeah, they can Yeah.

Eric (31:20)
Yeah, I just did a quick Google search. Seventy

five miles over three days, point to point. Where does this start? Does it start near Sunopee? 'Cause it ends at Ragged, right?

Zach Remi (31:28)
I think it's

it ends at Ragged. I think it starts maybe at Kearsarge High School or something and goes up Kearsarge from there, something like that, maybe.

Eric (31:42)
I mean, Erica, this is right up your alley. Just a little elevation. She's the ultra runner.

Zach Remi (31:44)
Ha ha ha.

Erika (31:44)
No. No, Sheila, Sheila's doing

it. I'm an ultrarunner, but I'm not really a trail runner. So that's the difference between me.

Zach Remi (31:50)
Okay, what ⁓ what

what have you done for ultras?

Erika (31:55)
I love me a good l looped course. So I've done ⁓ I've done up to a 72 hour race before. And I can just do loops on loops on loops on loops. But you factor in some actual trail running and I'm just very uncoordinated on trails. Like I will trip over air. So I I I'm trying to get some practice in. Like I haven't even told Eric this this past weekend. ⁓ what when you first logged on, I did a little bit of chatting and I was in Ripton, Vermont.

Zach Remi (32:02)
Wow, that is wild.

Yeah.

Erika (32:21)
friend of mine was doing Infinitas and I don't know if you've ever heard of that race before, but there is a whole like we actually it's like 10 days worth of races. You can run an 888K, which is basically like like I I don't know. It's just unreal. Then they have like a two

Zach Remi (32:25)
I don't think so.

wow.

Vermont has

like a ton of different crazy races too that like are ver

Erika (32:41)
yes. And this is one that

I've never fathomed before. There's like a 250 miler, ⁓ a fifty miler. You could do a DECA marathon, which is so they have a nine mile loop and then a ⁓ an 18 mile loop. So technically it's more than a marathon, but you could do that every day for 10 days. They have a penta, which is the five day. You could do the hundred miler, which my friend did, and I went to pace her. And that was some of the hardest trails I've ever done because

Zach Remi (32:44)
Yeah.

Erika (33:09)
The weather was just so awful and it just destroyed everything. Just like I just pacing, I was like, thank God, this is not me. Like how the hell she finished a hundred miler on those trails just boggles my mind. But I'm slowly working my way towards being a little bit better at trails. So maybe I need to head back to like your way and and get some not white mountain like trails on my feet.

Zach Remi (33:11)
Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. The are the

trails the Greenway is great. Like there's a ton of running like on the Greenway. ⁓

Erika (33:39)
Mm. Sounds a lot

better than just straight up rocks and Yes.

Eric (33:43)
Sounds like a good introduction for Erica.

Zach Remi (33:45)
Yeah,

though I've done a lot of the forty eight and all I mean, it's like you try I feel like you tell yourself it's runnable and it's n it's really not

Erika (33:55)
Yeah.

Eric (33:55)
Are you trying to run

them when you do them? 'Cause like I'm with you there, but

Zach Remi (33:58)
I r ⁓

I I take the my ⁓ I try and do like I'm you know, I'm not like tr trying to get my heart rate up like super high, trying to like stay down in zone two, but like when I get to a flat run it type of deal, you know, if I f feel but it's like, you know, the whites are s are so rugged that like the people that do the like the FK the Prezi FKT and like

Erika (34:14)
There you go.

Zach Remi (34:26)
Two and a half hours. It's like I don't you're you're just like a mountain goat. Like I mean, 'cause that's crazy. Yep. Insane.

Eric (34:26)
It's insane.

How do you go up? Like right. Just the beginning, like going up Madison. It's like the those boulders.

It just take and then up and down. Like you think it would be flat for a while. It's not. It's up and down, up and down. What is it? Like nine peaks? Insane. What is ⁓ what's some of your favorite hikes up here then? Hikeslash run hike.

Zach Remi (34:43)
Yeah.

Yeah. Cra it's crazy. ⁓

Erika (34:48)
Holy shit.

Zach Remi (34:53)
⁓

yeah, I love it's called Nancy Kerrigan. It's like ⁓ Mount Nancy and Mount Kerrigan. It's up in Bartlett off three two. That's probably my favorite like mountain run in New Hampshire. ⁓ it's yeah, yeah, that's what they they call it. ⁓ it's you feel you you get out to Nancy Pond and you just feel so out there.

Erika (35:08)
The Nancy Kerrigan.

Good name, good name.

Zach Remi (35:21)
It's like ⁓ I think it's like sixteen or seventeen miles. And it's like all runnable. It's nice.

Eric (35:27)
that's awesome. I'm looking at this now. There must be different loops because you got different options.

Erika (35:28)
dang.

Zach Remi (35:32)
Yeah. What is it, like seventeen?

Eric (35:35)
Well, they got a six and a ten and then there's a few more that are bigger with ⁓ some good elevation gain. What is it about the trails that you love running on trails versus like a rail trail? Even though you're not on the street, but you're still outdoors, kind of in the na in the forest, but paved path.

Zach Remi (35:54)
Yeah. ⁓ I don't know. I I just I love like I call it my green time. Like I love just like being surrounded by nature and running through it. I feel very it it just like there's nothing really like it to me. Skiing is kinda like it. It's like, you know, that flow state everybody talks about. And it's like you're you really have to like you're really focusing on like every footstep in the woods on trails like that. So it's like there's

Eric (36:15)
Right.

Zach Remi (36:24)
I don't have to like I can just kinda listen to music and get lost versus like you know I like I'll do I really need to start doing more speed work like on roads and stuff and getting my like VO two max back up 'cause I'm trying to like build back up to do some longer stuff. But ⁓ I definitely like just veer towards I have like probably five trails within like

Erika (36:31)
It's peaceful out there.

Mm.

Zach Remi (36:52)
two miles of me that I can that are all like four to five miles plus, which is yeah, it's awesome. So it's like e yeah, that yeah, they're those thing and then I do my you know, you can do your long runs like on the weekends type of thing or whatever. So

Eric (36:58)
That's the best. Yeah.

Erika (37:01)
They're short and sweet.

Mm-hmm. Is there

something that you're you're looking to train for if you do the speed work?

Zach Remi (37:16)
Yeah, well I'm not really trying to like get like I it's more just to like build, you know, more of a V Yeah, yeah. ⁓ I've only told my wife this, but I would like to I turn forty this year. I'd love to do forty miles on my fortieth this year. So that's that's the summer goal. September fourth. Yeah. no

Erika (37:22)
Endurance and stuff. Yeah.

When does your when does your fortieth fall? That's very nice. Yeah, that ⁓ I also turned forty this year, but I have

no plans to do a forty mile. A hundred and twenty seven.

Zach Remi (37:42)
Well you've done li I mean, how many miles did you do in seventy two hours? Must have been Yeah, that

Eric (37:43)
Okay.

Zach Remi (37:49)
was wild.

Erika (37:51)
So I think I'm good this time around, but

Zach Remi (37:53)
Is is that one

so what was that?

Erika (37:56)
It's called Notchview. ⁓ so it's held in the Berksh it's in the Berkshires of ⁓ Windsor Mass. And it's on it's on cross country trails, which cross cross country ski trails. So it's just like there is some elevation, but it's a one point nine mile loop and everybody camps out. Like you you go by your campsite, that's a ton of people, you make friends and you're never really alone out there, but it is really like it's very scenic. It's it's a beautiful place to run and

Zach Remi (37:58)
Okay, I haven't heard of that.

Eric (38:03)
You'd love it.

Zach Remi (38:03)
Yeah.

Yeah.

nice.

That's cool. Nice. Yeah.

Yep. Nice. Yeah. Yeah, it's like you can push yourself in kind of a controlled environment. That's yeah.

Erika (38:25)
Yeah, you just kinda push some limits. Mm-hmm.

Exactly. And I can

Eric (38:34)
She

does she does it for the snacks. Let's be real. She does it for the snacks and the food. She can eat whatever she wants. The the ragged race. So I'm I'm a huge fan of ragged, mainly for the winters. But there's over thirty five thousand dollars up for grabs.

Erika (38:34)
go sleep and sit down if I feel like it wherever. Also snacks. It helps. It really does.

Zach Remi (38:37)
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Ha ha ha ha.

It ha it's it has turned into yeah, this like ⁓ USA running championship or whatever. It that is very controversial up in these parts, I will say. Yeah.

Erika (38:51)
Heard about that.

I've heard that. It's

Eric (39:03)
Why?

Erika (39:03)
gonna

Eric (39:03)
Why is that?

Erika (39:03)
bring some like I wanna see who it brings in.

Zach Remi (39:06)
A lot of people are just not you know, ⁓ in particular the Sunnepe race too has also turned into like I'm not sure what it is, but they it's some type of, you know, USA running championship or something. I think people just like you know, felt like it should have stayed like more grassroots and I'm not sure I'm not sure.

Erika (39:22)
Mm-hmm.

Absolutely. They

Eric (39:29)
I get that. They didn't want

it to become this big thing. I mean

Erika (39:31)
s but now it is with that much money on the line and it's kinda like they sold out, like they they wanted to be big. So now it's gonna get big names and a lot of attention and

Zach Remi (39:33)
Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

Eric (39:43)
Would it?

Zach Remi (39:43)
And it's like i it's tough. I mean, it's like I'm n you know, I s I see both sides of it.

Erika (39:49)
Yeah. But it's gonna be hard for like the locals to get in now if there's gonna be like so many other people trying to compete. Like that's what I I can see. Yeah. Mm-hmm. I'd still love to see it.

Zach Remi (39:55)
It's gonna be hard for locals to yeah, to compete and and win for sure. Yeah.

Eric (40:02)
Does this have anything

to do with the new ownership of Ragged? No? Okay. I mean, I think it's a

Zach Remi (40:07)
No, no, I don't think it no. Nope. It was

all done I think it happened a few years ago when they changed they I think the first to go was the ragged fifty K. I think that became like the USA I don't know Trail Running Championship or something. That was the first one maybe.

Eric (40:23)
It had to 'cause I'm on the website.

So the 75K stage race has $5,000 worth of prizes. The $50K, which you said is harder from what you've been told than the three day stage race, the $50K has $30,000. So that that $50K is a big deal, or they're they're making it up to be one.

Zach Remi (40:37)
Well y yeah. Take that with

That's

that's crazy. I I actually didn't even know that. I knew the changes about Sonopee. I wasn't aware that 'cause I know that the ragged has gone back and forth. Like sometimes they're the host of it and sometimes.

Eric (40:48)
Thirty thousand.

I might have to check it out. I love that place. Speaking of ragged and skiing,

Zach Remi (41:05)
Yeah.

Eric (41:07)
you're a big

time skier. I watched you did

Zach Remi (41:09)
I don't

yeah, I don't run at all in the winter actually. I'm like Yeah. I take the I take like three or four months off completely and just ski. I do I I skin, so it's like hiking and yeah. Have you tried it though? I think you'd like it. Wr Ragged's weird though. What's that? Yeah, it's a little different. I mean there are

Erika (41:12)
You're just like Eric. He does the same thing. He has his priorities.

Eric (41:13)
Yeah.

I was gonna say you do something a little cooler than me. I prefer a chairlift.

Erika (41:29)
Am I picturing this right? Like they made that into the Olympic sport, right? Like you r you ha you put the skins on you so you can kinda go up.

Zach Remi (41:38)
Yeah, they're like an ultra light setup. My setup's like more, you know, recreational. I use like, you know, more of my regular skis and stuff. Yeah. Yeah, put in your bat yeah, it is. It's great. It's great exercise and like I really I need the brake from running. Like I'm not like a natural runner. Like I you know, I so it

Erika (41:44)
Gotcha, gotcha. But like you get to the top and you just like rip them off and then you go down the mountain. That's really cool though.

Mm.

Eric (42:01)
Well I think for

anything, everybody needs like multiple. Like I can't do the same thing all the time. You need ⁓ or you'll burn out. This ski season was awesome, but let's talk about skinning because yeah, you put these skins on your skis, Erica, and it helps you go up the mountain and you don't like ski backwards downhill. And then you then you take the skis off ⁓ the skins off, but you do all this work for run for one run. Now my brother does this in Tahoe and

Zach Remi (42:08)
Yeah. Yeah.

Erika (42:10)
Hmm.

Makes sense, yeah.

Zach Remi (42:27)
Ha ha ha.

Erika (42:27)
⁓ huh.

Why does that surprise me? Yeah.

Eric (42:31)
I've skied I I know and I've skied

Tuckerman's a couple of times in my day and I loved it, but it was that one epic run. You do this like in the back woods of your house. You go up the back of Sunnepe. Give me some skinning stories or g just tell me a little bit about skinning and and why you love skinning so much over the lift like me.

Zach Remi (42:53)
I do a lot of lift too. ⁓ I but ⁓ you know, I it's like the same thing with trail running, like just being out in the woods, you know, that like solitude type of thing and ⁓ challenging it just you know, being in nature and doing something different too. I I live pretty pretty close to Sunope, so I do a lot of lift service, w I'm lucky too, and ⁓ so it's just like doing something different too, but

It it it's really nice for exercise 'cause it's like I go and do Sunope and it takes me like exactly an hour basically. Like you know, it's like forty five to fifty minutes to the top and then as you said, like ten minutes down, five you know. So it's like but it but it it's a n it you know, it's a nice exercise. So

Eric (43:43)
Are you doing just one when you when you skin? Are you just Yeah.

Zach Remi (43:45)
Pretty much, yeah,

pretty much.

Erika (43:47)
That's a lot of

work to keep going up that hill, like plus family time.

Zach Remi (43:50)
Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, yeah,

so yeah.

Eric (43:54)
That's your U time.

Like you go for an hour run, there's an hour of ski. It's perfect. Perfect.

Zach Remi (43:58)
Yeah, yep. Yeah, and

Erika (43:58)
Yeah. Fair trade.

Zach Remi (44:00)
Sunopee lets you do it like before and after they're open, which is nice too. I think Ragged's just during the day, which kinda

Eric (44:08)
Ragged

I see people do it all day long. I don't know about after.

Zach Remi (44:11)
Yeah.

I think they I don't think they let you maybe it'll change this year with the new ownership, but yeah. I don't know, 'cause Sonopee doesn't let you do it during the day, but they let you do it after hours. And I think it may have something to do with like the whole state park thing. I'm not sure if that plays into it at all. Because yeah, but

Erika (44:18)
Is that like a liability thing or

Eric (44:35)
I bet it is a little liability because in Ragged I do see people do it early in the morning, but never after. So and I do and I know the exact path they use. That's a that's so cool. You ever watch okay, you ever watch Out Cold? That makes me think of Out Cold when they do King on the Mountain. That was a college movie, Erica, that I I don't know if you ever watched, but

Zach Remi (44:38)
Could be.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we do it with like headlamps and stuff.

Yeah, yes. Yeah.

Erika (44:59)
do remember

it but not it it in detail. But when you say King of the Mountain, is that just when like you climb to the top and you like push all your friends down? I'm thinking King of the Mountain. Mm-hmm.

Eric (45:02)
⁓

No, see what you gotta do is you all go to the top of the mountain and you got a beer.

You got like a big beer mug. And it's a race to the bottom, but it's also like a little race or competition of who doesn't, you know, spill the most beer. And so the it is. We should do a king of the mountain.

Erika (45:20)
Spill. ⁓ That sounds like fun. See, these little things are

Zach Remi (45:24)
Yeah, it does sound like fun.

Erika (45:27)
what what would totally get me to do. I'd be like, I'll totally try to ski without falling down and spilling my beer. Like, why not?

Zach Remi (45:30)
Ha ha ha.

Eric (45:34)
This this might be a unprepped question, but we have this thing called the Code Brown. And in everything you've done running or skiing, maple farm, maybe even comedy, which we'll get into in a second, you got a code brown story, like an ⁓ shit moment. Maybe your headlamp goes out on a skinning trip. Maybe your shoe falls apart like mine did when I tried to do the Prezi last year and my whole entire boot came apart on the second on the second mountain.

Zach Remi (45:40)
No, yes.

⁓

I ha I have had a boot ⁓ I've I have had a boot come apart on Trikor before. ⁓ but that'll probably wasn't I feel like with all like the stuff that ⁓ you know, the long runs and like I'm always like preparing for that. And it's like the days that I, you know, just like go to F around a little bit that I get myself in trouble. the one that comes to mind is at Wildcat.

And I was just skiing and I got I went I followed some tracks like into the woods and I was kinda like in the middle of the mountain. I know it pretty well. And ⁓ so I didn't really think anything of it and I got really lost and I didn't know where I was and ⁓ it was like I believe it or not, before COVID I didn't have a smartphone. I had a fli I had a flip phone.

So we can get the into that in a second, but I got

a f I got a smartphone and basically went off to the races with like the social media, obviously. But so I didn't have any GPS, anything. I was just like raw dogging my ski day. And ⁓ this daughter and her dad came up behind me and the and they and then they realized that I was lost and they had followed my tracks. So the dad was kind of pissed at me, I could tell.

Erika (47:09)
Yeah.

⁓ no, no.

Zach Remi (47:25)
But luckily he had his phone and he like looked at his GPS and he he was like, Good thing you didn't go any farther cause it there was like a cliff like w like fifty yards in front of me. And ⁓ we ended up like finding our way out. But that was probably one of like it's w just one of those times where like your stomach just is like in knots. You're like, Man, I just let me make it out of here right now. You know, I I I think my wife was pregnant with our first too, so I was like

Erika (47:37)
no shit.

Zach Remi (47:54)
Jesus. Really good. Yeah. Yeah. Or be lost in the woods and have like search and rescue come out for you. Yeah. Yeah. So I I I feel like it's the nonchalant times. Yeah. I'm I'm I have a lot of ⁓ I'm very like I just live my life with anxiety. Like, you know, so it's like I feel like when I go out for like a long run, I'm like

Erika (47:56)
Last thing you need is to go off a cliff. Come on. ⁓ no. Middle of winter. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Eric (48:06)
Yeah, you don't want to be the person in the news.

Erika (48:16)
⁓

Zach Remi (48:23)
extra prepared, you know, I have every but it's like at the same time, like on a day like that I'll just be like, but ⁓ I'm very ADHD, you know, it's like

Eric (48:33)
When you just try to throw it all together to get a moment in an hour and you don't have anything and then it all goes wrong. Yeah. Yeah. That's me a lot today. I'm like never prepared it happened, Erica. It happened like our first run on the first nice day, and I forgot running underwear and I was like, that we'll be fine.

Zach Remi (48:37)
Ex yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah. Yeah, so yeah.

Erika (48:52)
He's like,

Hold on, I gotta stop and ad adjust. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Zach Remi (48:52)
Cha chafing, yeah.

Eric (48:55)
Fifty times

later.

Zach Remi (48:57)
Yeah.

Erika (48:58)
Fuck's sake,

I'm never inviting you out again.

Zach Remi (48:58)
So how old are your kids?

Eric (49:02)
My daughter is ten and the twins, they're boys, they're five. And they're very young five. Yeah. We got my Yeah.

Zach Remi (49:06)
Yeah. So you're you're in a yeah. Boys are do you have kids,

Erica? Okay. Nice. Yeah. The boys it's like my daughter who's almost two gets ready better than the boys. Or she like puts in more effort. She's like sitting there trying to put her shoes on and stuff. I'm like, Can you two get it together?

Erika (49:12)
I don't. I've cats. Not as bad.

Ha. ⁓

Yeah.

Eric (49:31)
How old are yours?

Zach Remi (49:32)
The boys are seven and five and they're like we my oldest actually stayed back. ⁓ he's got a little bit of a speech delay in but he was very just like immature, so we Yeah.

Eric (49:35)
Yeah.

I did too. Yeah.

We're both four, but I'm a year older because I stayed back before first grade. And the boys might be too. Like I said, they're very young. Now you get your kids outside all the time too. Like your kids are skiing. Your kids are doing these things with you and your wife. You're on the in the mountains, camping, hiking, whatever. Like, how much fun is it to ski with your kids? Because I'm having a blast skiing with them instead of being a grandstand parent.

Zach Remi (49:48)
Okay, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah.

Yes. yeah, totally. Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah. It it I yeah, I think it it's been really fun. I mean, I it's like I do feel for the people that like, you know, have like the once or twice a season and like get it all in and you f you know, you see the meltdowns at the end of the day, 'cause like, you know, we'll be very chill with it. And it's helped us like, you know, they've almost like

started to be the ones asking for it right now, which is nice, you know, 'cause we'll be like, all right, we'll go for a few hours and then, you know, be like, okay, I think we're good type of thing. Not totally. Yeah. And you think about like their little legs and stuff. Yeah, how much effort it takes. Totally. So it's like, yeah, I I think that's the that would be my advice to anybody, although I think it's easier said than done sometimes. But

Erika (50:41)
Mm.

feel like that's a lot for like kids to f for them to put up with and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Zach Remi (51:08)
They yeah, and they're like so in their it helps because my wife's family is like a big skiing family. So, ⁓ they see all their older cousins do it and their uncles and aunts skiing, so they wanna be like part of the group too, which is which is cool. Yeah.

Erika (51:23)
That's awesome. Yeah, they're

they're getting a sense of adventure, like learning how to to to be adventurous and curious and stuff like that. So that's a great lesson.

Zach Remi (51:26)
Yes, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Eric (51:32)
We have a ragged season pass. So like there's nothing better than that. You don't feel like you go to the mountain, you have to spend all day. We'll get there for eleven o'clock and leave by two. And then the best part is we get half off skiing at Sunnepe, half off at McIntyre or Pat's Peak. So maybe we want to change it up and it costs twenty dollars to drive to McIntyre and get like 10 runs in. But it what I find to be the most successful is when you ski with other kids that

Zach Remi (51:34)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Eric (52:01)
their age and maybe your seven year old is is realizing it now like my daughter is, but they no longer want to like s ride the lift with you. They just want to ride it with their friends. And they will ski all day long and they'll be upset when four o'clock comes and the mountain closes because they don't want to stop. When it's just me and my daughter, couple hours then she's good. When we're with our friends and their kids, all day.

Erika (52:10)
Ha ha.

Zach Remi (52:10)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah. yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. It's nice when your kids take in your interest. I'm ho I'm I'm like I think my it sounds crazy, but I feel like my seven year old's like almost ready for like shorter runs. Like a like a five K, like I feel like yeah, like th like he's all he has j he's just like me. He just like his motor never stops. The his younger brother's like

Erika (52:42)
Absolutely.

Eric (52:43)
Yeah.

Erika (52:48)
Mm-hmm.

Zach Remi (52:51)
More like chill, but it's like him. I'm like, Yes, yeah. Yeah.

Erika (52:53)
Well that'll be a good way to get his energy out and to to be able to decompress a little bit. Hopefully

quiet his mind if he needs it and just yeah. Good ex excuse to get outside.

Zach Remi (53:00)
Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

Eric (53:04)
My

my daughter's running now. We do like the big Manchester 5K. She might do a small one. But what is actually yeah, healthy kids series, but what is actually the most fun, and I don't know if this will work for you because you like the trails. But I'll go run a rail trail and she'll ride her bike alongside me.

Zach Remi (53:07)
nice. Yeah.

Erika (53:10)
You do the healthy kids, right?

Zach Remi (53:21)
Yeah. Yeah, that's

a good yeah, we do the rail trail up here a l quite a bit with the kids in their bikes and just usually we'll walk, but that's something I've definitely thought about for sure. Yeah. ⁓

Eric (53:33)
Yeah, it's a blast.

Erika (53:35)
I wonder if anybody's

ever thought of doing like a like a tiny kid's trail race or something. Like a quick little like maybe two mile or like

Zach Remi (53:41)
I'm sure I'm sure it exists.

Well, I know that J Peak I don't know if it must be different, but J Peak has their like trail festival and that has a kids run in it, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. So it's definitely out there. yeah. Yeah.

Erika (53:50)
Mm-hmm.

Eric (53:50)
Yes.

Erika (53:53)
Fun. All right. Good. Yeah. Teach the kids like to like the outdoors. Maybe

be a little more coordinated than I am on a trail with rocks and a couple of routes. Like I wish I started sooner.

Zach Remi (54:02)
Yeah. I know.

Eric (54:05)
One last more on

Zach Remi (54:05)
yeah.

Eric (54:07)
one last more on skiing. Where's some of your favorite places to ski? 'Cause I know you're at Sunapi a lot. Like you you got our home mountain that we have, but outside of your home mountain, where do like to go?

Zach Remi (54:11)
Yeah.

Yeah. ⁓ I you know, I l I really l just love to ski. So but I you know, right now Sunnepe in my it's like I like ragged. I would rather ski at ragged, but my wife's my wife's mom actually works at Sunnepe and my her uncle coaches there. So it's like a big family ordeal. And they've been there forever, like since the state owned it, you know, way back when. So, you know

Erika (54:38)
Awesome.

Eric (54:41)
Yeah.

Zach Remi (54:44)
⁓ so I'll go to the mountains that are on the Epic Pass. I love Stowe. But, you know, I go there like on a weekday. You know, I'll go like once a month on a weekday or something. ⁓ when there's not a lot of crowds, like Stowe's I call it Canon with amenities. Yeah, yeah. It's got like Yeah. Stowe's got like the same vibe as like

Eric (54:52)
Same.

Okay. I've been to S I only went to Stowe once, forever ago.

Zach Remi (55:10)
It's really rugged up top. Like you wouldn't think so because everybody talks about like it's so pish posh, but it's a like a true four thousand footer, you know, with where it really feels rugged up top and stuff. but, you know. I love Canon. It's not on our paths right now, so I don't get there as much as I'd like to, but I'd like to start they have the New Hampshire Wednesdays up there. Yeah.

Eric (55:34)
Yeah, it's like two for one or something. I

I made one canon trip this year. Have you ever gone to Sugarloaf?

Zach Remi (55:39)
I have not been up I've been to Saddleback but not Sugar Loaf, which is funny. Yeah, yeah, that would be great. I would love to go to Sho I'd love to go to that reggae weekend too. I know that's at the end of the year, but

Eric (55:44)
⁓ sugarloaf's where we gotta go. Yeah. You take

Yeah, it's a good time. I I I'm lucky. I haven't been in two years, but I'm lucky when I get to go and I get to go with a friend or two and it's ⁓ I did I did it once on a day trip. I do not recommend

Zach Remi (55:58)
Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, that's

Erika (56:05)
That's Maine, right?

That's like four hours away, something like that.

Zach Remi (56:06)
a that's a half.

Eric (56:07)
Dude, it's yeah,

yeah, it's far. J peak I day trip a couple of times a year 'cause we got the J Peak passes with our ragged pass. So J Peak is ⁓ the one I try to make four times a year. I only got three this year, but can't have it all.

Zach Remi (56:13)
Yeah.

Yeah. So what's

so have you heard any news? Are they changing anything with the new ownership or?

Eric (56:27)
Everything staying as is. They're making the lodge bigger. ⁓ I actually got a ski locker this year because they're adding ski lockers. So I'll have one of those. They're looking to upgrade snowmaking. They're looking to upgrade the lodge because it is the one of the coolest lodges. Like it really feels like a skiing lodge.

Zach Remi (56:46)
Yeah, you guys have yeah, Ragged's

Ragged has a great lodge.

Eric (56:50)
But it's getting busy and it's getting crowded. So they're looking to upgrade that. And then ⁓ the the ticket, the season pass went up ten dollars. Not a big deal. So the J Peak thing stayed. Everyone's thrilled because you get five days at J. Yeah. But that's it's honestly Ragged is a great mountain because here's my opinion. Everyone likes to go to Sunnepe or Gunstock because they're right off the highway. So I feel like Sunnepe and Gunstock get overcrowded.

Zach Remi (57:02)
Nice. Yeah.

Yeah.

yeah. Yeah.

Eric (57:19)
Nobody

likes to drive forty minutes on back roads in the middle of winter to Ragged.

Zach Remi (57:24)
Yes. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, Sonope gets swamped on the weekends. Yeah.

Eric (57:29)
Yeah. Yeah.

I'll spend most weekends with the kids, but I try to go up every Wednesday by myself. And I'll do five, six runs, go in the lodge and work a little bit on my computer. Go back out five, six runs, come back. I send Erica and all the people in our group chat like, Here's my window office. I love it.

Zach Remi (57:37)
Nice. Yeah.

Erika (57:47)
Work from home. Yeah.

Zach Remi (57:48)
Mm-hmm.

Nice.

Erika (57:54)
Hey, if I could do it I would.

Zach Remi (57:56)
Yeah.

Eric (57:57)
I gotta get out there with you.

Erika (57:56)
Pizza French fries.

Pizza French fries. I'm pl I'm practicing right now. Maybe I'll go out with you next next winter.

Zach Remi (58:02)
No what about snowboard?

Didn't you say you snowboarded?

Erika (58:04)
I

I tried it. but so I think the friend who was trying to teach me, so I would have to be goofy foot. So that's my right foot in front, right? And she was trying like she was the other way and I just wasn't like it wasn't computing trying to do what she was doing. So I don't know, I would try skiing, but again, I I need to make sure that I'm not gonna hurt myself because running is my primary sport and that's the last thing I want to do. So

Zach Remi (58:15)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Erika (58:33)
worth a shot.

Eric (58:32)
Let's talk a little comedy

for a little bit. Cause this is really why everyone knows you. And and we totally like buried the lead there with making everyone wait to the end to talk comedy. We got our running and ski, and everyone's everybody's like, Eric, stop talking about skiing. It's a running podcast. Why do you keep talking about skiing on it? ⁓ I I I wish I could go back and r and remember when I first saw your your stuff, but it was probably around the time when

Erika (58:39)
Yeah.

Zach Remi (58:41)
Ha ha ha ha.

Erika (58:42)
W we got New England dad on the pod right now, you guys.

Eric (58:59)
COVID happened or shortly after. And you're you're you're finding these I don't even know what to call you, just a creator. And l it's like you and Ian. Ian's another one from Rhode Island I watched quite a bit.

Zach Remi (59:07)
Yeah. Yeah. Me we were texting

each other this morning. Me and Ian love each other. Yeah. Yeah. So we're yeah, I like Ian a lot.

Erika (59:13)
Ian Brown Hill? He's awesome. Yeah.

Eric (59:14)
Yeah. And so somehow I came across

the two of you, not not together, but at one point I'm like, I didn't even realize you were from New Hampshire at the time. But your content just all of a sudden like, how did this happen? 'Cause Erica and I and our our whole group are just sharing these things back and forth between the two of you, you and Ian.

Zach Remi (59:21)
Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah.

Erika (59:33)
Yes, it it pops up on

somebody's algorithm and then that's how we just keep seeing it over and over and it's awesome.

Zach Remi (59:38)
Well, I pr I appreciate that. ⁓

you know, it was totally like I I was teaching at the time during COVID and then we went like remote and I kinda had to like do you know, I was like making remo I had gotten a smartphone finally and I was like doing my remote lessons and I kinda just like started I I just had our first kid or my wife just had our first kid.

Erika (59:59)
Yeah.

Zach Remi (1:00:09)
So I kinda started it as like more of like a dad thing. I was like I I really had no idea what I was doing. It was I tell people it was like a total like millennial like a aim. You remember instant messenger? Like I was like, ⁓ I like New England and I'm a dad now, so New England dad and it's like it that has turned out to be a pretty good decision for me. ⁓ so

Erika (1:00:21)
Yeah, of course.

Yeah.

Zach Remi (1:00:34)
in the n yeah, so yeah, it took probably two and a half to three years and once, you know, the New England stuff really took off and then like, you know, my direct to camera, like talking about like, you know, different just like wacky stuff does really well too. So and that's like more, you know, I feel like my comedy the New England stuff is like I feel like I'm mainly just like making fun of my mom and dad. You know, it's like

Erika (1:01:02)
Ha ha.

Zach Remi (1:01:03)
'Cause that's how they talk. I have like a little bit less of an accent for and then I feel like people are like, ⁓ y you know, y I can hear you saying your Rs and it's like, Yeah, well it's a character, you know, and it's like so when you come and see my stand up, I'm not gonna like, you know, be like code switching for you and and dropping my o and and you know, I don't wanna be one of those guys that's like fa I have an accent, you know, so it's like I don't I don't wanna fake it, but

Eric (1:01:17)
Right.

Erika (1:01:30)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Zach Remi (1:01:33)
That can throw

people off a little bit here and there.

Eric (1:01:36)
Was there ever a goal? Like for us with this podcast, we've been doing it close to four years. And the goal is just try to do something that's fun and entertaining that we think is a good product. You said it took you a couple of years. Was there a goal like because what I'm impressed about, if it took you three years, is you stuck with it for three years, where you're just like, I don't care about the views. I don't care about the comments or the shares. I'm just gonna keep doing it because it's fun. Or was there a long-term goal like I want to make this into something?

Erika (1:01:55)
Mm-hmm.

Zach Remi (1:02:08)
I really didn't know where it was going. I kinda like once it started like rolling a little yeah, there I mean, and let's just put it out there that there was a lot of time of like post I call it posting to the void. You know, it's like you're posting, you're getting no reaction, it's it's depressing, you know, it's like and ⁓ so there was a lot of that. But like once it started rolling, I kinda like I I was like, it'd be

Erika (1:02:23)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Zach Remi (1:02:36)
nice to like make t a little bit of money off of this, you know. And now I'm making I now I'm like pretty much at my teaching salary. So which it was yeah, and it there wasn't like it was nice. I had the luxury of not having pressure 'cause I was I became a stay at home dad anyway. ⁓ so my wife is, you know, full obviously full time, still goes into Boston once a week for her job. So

Erika (1:02:44)
Not too shabby.

Zach Remi (1:03:04)
The decision wasn't like social media. It was me staying home with the kids. And ⁓ then, you know, the social media was like something I did 'cause I can't sit still for more than five minutes. And then, you know, it's one of it's one of those things where you like to like it's like getting better at anything. It's like that dopamine hit of like getting better at running, getting better at you know, it's just like another thing that, you know

Eric (1:03:20)
I'm trying to get Erica to do more.

Zach Remi (1:03:33)
I and it's fun, you know, to a lot most of the time. So yeah.

Erika (1:03:39)
I just feel like I'm not very creative. So I'm like, what am I actually doing?

Eric (1:03:39)
What's

Zach Remi (1:03:42)
⁓ Yeah, that's

what I mean that's what my wife says to me too, so

Eric (1:03:46)
What's what's like

Zach Remi (1:03:47)
Just it

I would say if you're like saying like how to create content and you're not very creative, I think like just like look for the trends and just copy the trends, you know, in in your own in your own way, you know. It's like I think that's the best way to to do it. And then just talk about what you like. I think people really appreciate

Erika (1:03:58)
That's Eric's job. He Yep.

Zach Remi (1:04:10)
anybody that's talking about something that they're passionate about, you know. And I really am passionate about New England. I love New I love like live, breathe and die New England. Like l like you guys, I've lived here my whole life. You know, I've had, you know, grew up having steamers and, you know, going to the beach and that just a tip my both my parents are from like Mill City, so they're very blue collar, thick accents, you know. So I I really do appreciate like

Erika (1:04:20)
Mm-hmm.

Zach Remi (1:04:41)
our little spot in the US here. You know, I feel it's like it's a little it's like a breath of sanity sometimes too, you know, and Yeah. Yeah.

Erika (1:04:44)
Yeah.

And that's what people like about your your content too. It it is very relatable. Especially

like when you're talking New England, we're like, ha, it's this is stuff that most people aren't gonna understand, but it's such a niche thing for us. I love it.

Zach Remi (1:04:56)
Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Eric (1:05:01)
Well then you do what I like to do about Connecticut, which I don't count as New England half the time. And everyone on the pod from Connecticut, I'm like, well, wait, no, you're not really from New England. You're from Connecticut. It's so different. And you you mentioned trends. So you do like the the one that comes to mind is choose your character. And you got all the outfits for all the states, but then Connecticut is just so different.

Erika (1:05:05)
Not a state.

Zach Remi (1:05:05)
No.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Erika (1:05:13)
Yeah.

Zach Remi (1:05:19)
Yes.

Yeah. And that yeah, Connecticut is so different. That's the best thing about and that's like the thing you'll find as you like go on this content creation journey is like like that was a trend back in the day, you know, like of early TikTok, like that whole choose your character and like that has become like

out I see people out a lot and they'll like I I was at the dispensary a few weeks ago in mass and this lady behind the counter starts going like this to me. She's like So I it's that's something I get recognized for quite a bit and it's so fun. Like in ⁓ you know I have all those I d I tell I never bought anything. I I actually have bought one thing a Yukon basketball T shirt. That was the one

Erika (1:06:13)
Yeah.

Zach Remi (1:06:14)
But all those clothes, like I taught forever, so I had all the dress clothes, like, you know, I I love the outdoors, so I gotta b like all the outdoor gear. So it's like a natural it's so easy for me to do that and people love that choose your character thing. But my thing in saying that is like keep trying stuff 'cause you might find something that, you know, you just works naturally for your content type of thing.

Erika (1:06:41)
I'm just gonna be like the cutesy, like I'm on a run today, not on trails. Yay, come for a run.

Zach Remi (1:06:45)
That pe

Eric (1:06:49)
When did doing stand-up come into play? Like was this something you wanted to do or was it something you thought like, I could do this or let's try it? Like what is your first like how did the whole stand-up thing start?

Zach Remi (1:07:02)
So it's I'm actually like right at my two year anniversary. I started two summers ago. and yeah, it was kind of just like how can I take this to the next level? You know, like I'm I kinda like missed be the personal side of like, you know, being in front of people, like teaching more was. You know, I had been out of teaching for like th probably three years at that point and

Erika (1:07:07)
Awesome.

Hm.

Zach Remi (1:07:29)
had been had some success with social media so that definitely like aided in my confidence of getting myself out there. And then basically like for for a year I went to open mics like four nights a week, like under the radar. Like just like wasn't really tell wasn't really telling people who I was you know, that type of deal. And like eventually people figured out who I was and you know they either like get or

Erika (1:07:45)
Trying it out.

Zach Remi (1:07:57)
don't like it. That's another thing in comedy. But, you know, and then now it's like, yeah, and it's going good and ⁓ so you know, it's another long road though. It does it's definitely not like a direct transfer and you gotta work at that too. People yeah, so

Erika (1:07:57)
Yeah.

Mm-hmm. Well,

everything worth doing, you gotta like it's worth putting the time into. So as long as you're still passionate about it and and it it brings you joy, just keep it up.

Zach Remi (1:08:18)
Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, and I've yeah, and I've

basically like decided that I don't wanna go back to teaching so and my daughter Yeah, and my daughter's gonna be in school in two years, so I gotta fill my time with something. So this is yeah, so this is working out. I taught for fift yeah. Yeah, yeah. I taught for fifteen years, so I didn't

Erika (1:08:27)
That's fair.

There you go. Another good hobby. You got your sugaring and maple syrup and now your comedy.

wow.

Eric (1:08:44)
I love by

the way that you're a full time dad at home. That's awesome. ⁓ the the comedy thing, do you go by Zack when you do it or do you say I'm New England dad?

Zach Remi (1:08:48)
Yeah, it's we've w we're blessed.

I go by Zach Remy, yeah. Which actually isn't even my real last name, to be honest with you. Yeah.

Erika (1:09:03)
You're alias, but it

works.

Eric (1:09:07)
Was that part of why you were going to open mic and you're like, Okay, I'm not gonna say I'm New England daddy? You kinda went under the radar and used the Zach name.

Zach Remi (1:09:17)
⁓ yeah, y yeah yeah, I think so. It said something to do with it for sure. I I just like didn't want like I mean it's like a dual thing. Like y it's I don't you have a certain expectation when people know that I think that like you're gonna be g better than you are, you know? Like I

Eric (1:09:37)
Have you taken

have you taken it beyond like I'm looking here, you're in Malden, Mass, you're in Bridgewater, Vermont, you're going to Boston a couple times. Like, yeah, yeah, you're on tour. Like you're going to be everywhere coming up.

Erika (1:09:46)
He's on tour.

Zach Remi (1:09:48)
Mm-hmm.

Erika (1:09:50)
I mean that's bigger than open

mics unless these are these open mics or are these actually like

Zach Remi (1:09:53)
Yeah, I'm not going

no, I don't I'm not doing open mics anymore. ⁓ yeah, I'm I'm booked and ⁓ yeah, pretty consistently booked and getting paid for it. So it's nice.

Erika (1:09:57)
Good, good.

Excellent.

Zach Remi (1:10:05)
But I wanted I wanted to do that like and I probably could have skipped the open mic thing if I wanted to, but I didn't I want it to be good.

Eric (1:10:05)
You ever walk

Zach Remi (1:10:17)
when people bought tickets to come see me, you know, like I didn't want people to pay money and like me not to have an act. You know what I mean? Like so i it that stuff takes time and ⁓ you know, I'm still like not quite I have a solid half an hour, which ⁓ you know, to forty five minutes, but I'm still like not quite at the headlining spot yet. I'm getting there, but

Eric (1:10:20)
Yeah.

Erika (1:10:25)
Right, right, right.

Mm.

Do you ever like riff with the crowd? Like, do you can you are like so you can play off of them and go in different directions? Excellent.

Zach Remi (1:10:47)
yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm very I'm a very conversational comic. Yeah. I like kinda

like I it's like back and forth. I'm not it's not like necessarily crowd work, it's like but it's like a back and forth and then like shifting shifting to my jokes and yeah, yeah.

Erika (1:11:01)
Kind of improv a little bit too. Mm-hmm.

Eric (1:11:06)
You ever have so we we started to do live shows and like our first live show had twenty something people. It was it was awesome. And then you have one that has four. And then you do one at the Boston Marathon and you think there might be thousands, but there's only like maybe thirty, or maybe maybe it's so cold two people show up. When you're doing these shows, like when we do ours, we just try to remember that we're talking to the listener and hopefully anyone who shows up has a good time.

Zach Remi (1:11:10)
cool. Nice.

Erika (1:11:21)
Yeah.

Zach Remi (1:11:24)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Eric (1:11:33)
Your case, like you ever have shows where there's only a few people and and how do you manage that versus a a big crowd and a large crowd?

Zach Remi (1:11:41)
all the time. This past weekend was like a perfect example. I was in Boston Friday night in front of eighty people, which doesn't sound like a ton of people, but it's quite a I mean, it's like in like a setting where it feels like a lot of people. Everybody's like packed in type of thing. And then the next night I was in front of ten people. So that it's like the contra and in comedians like most comedians will do that like pretty much their whole career. You know, it's like a very

Erika (1:11:55)
Yeah.

Zach Remi (1:12:11)
⁓ up and down fickle beast, you know, but the you know, it's like as much as I'm like, ⁓ I don't want to do this right now, it really does like sharpen you up because when you're talking to ten people, it's like you really know where your jokes are lacking, you know? Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. So

Erika (1:12:28)
I if they don't laugh, you're gonna notice. Yeah.

Eric (1:12:34)
I would

just think like in that case it's harder than what what we had to do, Erica, because we're like, Hey, we're just gonna put on a podcast like normal. But you but you Yeah.

Erika (1:12:39)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Like we have each other, but you're just up there on stage, like

you've got your ten people, but like, come on, work with me. Give me some interaction.

Zach Remi (1:12:47)
Yeah. Yeah.

Eric (1:12:49)
Do you do you do

you get a lot of support through the other the you know, your peers, the other comedians or guy guys like Ian or or you know, I don't know if you listen to Greg in the Morning Buzz. I used to listen to them every morning, but he would have comedians pop on all the time on the radio. And like one I remember because I went to see him, funny story. ⁓ my buddy Brandon bought tickets for him and his parents to go see, I think it was Justin McKinley. Does that sound like yeah.

Zach Remi (1:13:02)
Я

Yeah.

Justin McKinney, yeah.

Eric (1:13:18)
And he thought it was in haveral mass.

Zach Remi (1:13:21)
Yeah, and say he run New Hampshire. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Eric (1:13:22)
Haverillard, New Hampshire. So

I drove up with him and one other friend because his parents are like, we're not going to Haverillard, New Ham Erica, to get to Haverill, New Hampshire, you have to drive into Vermont. Yeah. So like your peers, you know, anyone from someone starting to someone who's been doing it for a while, like Justin, like how do they do they help you through those?

Erika (1:13:31)
I don't even I don't I didn't even know. I did not know there was one. ⁓ no.

Zach Remi (1:13:33)
It's an hour north of me. Yeah.

Yep. Yeah, I mean I

I think it's like not every yeah, it's I've had some great people. Ian doesn't do stand up, ⁓ but he's like, yeah, me and him are close and we've known each other for a few years now and like we'll you know, type of thing where it's like we'll shoot each other a text every once in a while and that type of thing. And, you know, collab here and there. But ⁓

Will Noonan has probably been like my biggest, you know, person that has mentored me. He's ⁓ he's a big Boston comic. He was like the Honda guy. He's performed at Fenway for Bill Burr and you know, he's just like a legend in the comedy scene in Boston. So but ⁓ you know, at the same time it's like comedy is a very it's not a team sport.

You know, it's like everybody's fighting for spots. Even me and, you know, w you know, I'm not there yet, but like even me and Will will be competing for spots, you know, and he he'd be the first to say that to you, you know. So it's like y at at some point it's you know, you really are kind of looking out for yourself and it's like you fe the I feel like for a while you're like, ⁓ you know, I wanna be there for everybody and I wanna stay and like watch people's sets and then

you quickly realize why like the veteran comics like do their set and dip out and they're like, All right, see you later 'cause it's a job, you know, it's like, yeah. And the longer you're in it, the more you feel that, you know, so but

Erika (1:15:15)
yeah. yeah.

Eric (1:15:16)
Yeah.

Erika (1:15:22)
Mm-hmm. Well,

gotta commend you for what you do. It's it's not an easy thing. Like public speaking in general, but then just trying to do trying to do all these jokes and and entertain people, like it's it's not an easy thing to do. So I gotta give you a lot of credit.

Zach Remi (1:15:29)
Yeah.

Well, yeah. Thank you. I mean

Eric (1:15:37)
And ju and

just like researching, learning everything about you outside of your content. Like you learn you're a dad of three, your full time parents stay at home. You go out at night to do these shows because it's a lot of fun and it it's great money on the side. But just the being a full time dad at home is like a full time job. And then the content, I know just from what we do on our side.

Erika (1:15:59)
That's huge.

Zach Remi (1:16:00)
Yes.

Eric (1:16:05)
Totally different, but it's still content. It's still pushing out a weekly episode and daily content on Instagram. That is a full-time job too. So I think what really comes in, what shows is your passion for this and your passion for what you do, because it doesn't feel like work when you stay up past 9 a.m., 10, 12 sometimes doing the work because you're passionate about it.

Zach Remi (1:16:08)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean I think you got i it's like you gotta find that's how I've always thought I don't wanna do anything that I like don't like to do. And that's probably not my best quality either. But that's like literally all how I've always been. Like I probably shouldn't have went to college, you know, like I was that we're all millennials. Like my parents were that was like their life goal for me to go to college, you know. It wasn't necessarily my goal, you know, so

Erika (1:16:37)
Ha ha ha

Yeah.

Hmm. Yep.

Zach Remi (1:16:57)
⁓

didn't really know you know, I taught for a long time. That was great. And I it was in f you know, elementary school, so it was very like creative, fun. But now that I'm doing I really feel like I've found, you know, what I should be doing, you know.

Erika (1:17:12)
Hehehehe.

Eric (1:17:13)
Love it for you, man. One

Zach Remi (1:17:14)
Yeah,

it's nice.

Eric (1:17:14)
of my one of my favorites I recently saw, and and it's an example of how sometimes these hit, sometimes they don't, because like the post before had almost 20,000 likes, and this next one had maybe 1700. Boston 25 showed this news clip of a naked man running around New Hampshire neighborhoods. I think it was Bedford, but you posted it and you're like, guys, listen.

Zach Remi (1:17:29)
Yeah.

yeah.

Ha ha ha

ha.

Eric (1:17:40)
It's

okay. I got home and you're just like it you're like, it's perfect because it's this really crappy black and white video. It

Zach Remi (1:17:43)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought that was funny too. I

know. Th certain things you put out like that and like it's almost you wonder if it's like people like like I think you saw that guy first, so maybe they just scrolled. Like a lot of the times I feel like if people like don't see like my face, like they'll just and it's unfamiliar. Like I try and think about it as like me scrolling. You know, like like if I saw Ian Brownhill

Erika (1:18:13)
Mm-hmm.

Eric (1:18:13)
Right.

Zach Remi (1:18:16)
I would at least give him like thirty seconds to try and entertain me, you know. But if I see something unfamiliar and I'm like, Okay, what's this? you know, and I just flip so I do feel like sometimes like it's good to have your face shown right away and be that be part of the hook and why videos like that for some reason don't do I the other one I did last year, we went on a family trip and I did like ⁓ Boston Dad at ⁓ Medieval Times.

Erika (1:18:19)
Yeah. Yeah.

Eric (1:18:36)
Yeah.

That was awesome.

Erika (1:18:45)
Ha ha.

Zach Remi (1:18:45)
And I I

thought that was gonna blow up and it did it just like did mediocre, but like I'm like, ⁓ I love that. That was one of those videos that I made and I loved and I was like, this should have done better, you know. But yeah, it's all good.

Erika (1:18:58)
⁓ that makes me so sad.

Eric (1:19:01)
Erica,

I sent that one to you if you check your DMs 'cause I sent her like ten posts of yours ⁓ when I was researching over the weekend. 'Cause Erica just had her own medieval times experience like a month or two ago.

Erika (1:19:04)
Yeah.

Zach Remi (1:19:06)
Yeah.

Nice.

Erika (1:19:12)
It was

so much fun. No, I was ⁓ Myrtle Beach. But still super fun and man. Well, the drunker you get the the more you enjoy the show. But they put on a good show. Like it's entertaining. yeah.

Zach Remi (1:19:15)
Nice. In New Jersey.

cool, nice. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's so fun. I love stuff like that. Ver I'm very

Eric (1:19:31)
You guys gotta

check it out. Yeah. No, your s your stuff is a ton of fun. The pronunciations are are great because I I can't pronounce for shit. And everyone loves to make fun of me for it. ⁓ you you collabed once with Dude Dad, which I thought was really cool because I like Dude Dad for just his like, you know, the the one when his wife gets pregnant and what every pregnancy's like, you know, the first one's a big deal, the second one's like,

Zach Remi (1:19:32)
c I'm very campy. Yeah.

Erika (1:19:34)
You're not alone,

my friend.

Zach Remi (1:19:48)
Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

Eric (1:19:59)
We got some time. The last one's like, ⁓ okay, we'll go to the hospital in the morning. Let's go to bed. ⁓ and then and then he has his zing zing t-shirts for the drill, but it's cool shit that you do. I want to say thanks for all the amazing content, but you're not off the hook yet. We have two final questions brought to you by my race tats. My race tats is awesome. Go check them out. You get these cool like mantra tattoos, or you can get one that just says, Let's fucking go. It's like a it's like a tattoo that.

Erika (1:20:00)
Ha ha ha

Zach Remi (1:20:00)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Erika (1:20:26)
We enjoy those.

Zach Remi (1:20:26)
A nice.

Erika (1:20:28)
LFG

Eric (1:20:28)
Stays on for a couple

days. I'm gonna go first and then Erica will go second. My final question, and it's for the year 2026. I'm looking for hot takes. These can be fun, these can be serious, these can like pineapple doesn't belong on pizza. I'm hoping for something fun and silly out of you, but if you wanna be like, you know, super serious, I don't I don't like take care of the trails, leave the trails the way you saw what whatever. Give me a hot take, a a fun hot take.

Zach Remi (1:20:42)
Ha ha ha.

⁓

Erika (1:20:50)
We'll allow it.

Zach Remi (1:20:52)
Yeah.

hot take

My I mean, my hot take is that New Hampshire's the best state in New England. ⁓ you know, and I've always said that. I think and it people will say, ⁓ like Maine has like a longer co coastline, like of course, but I mean you can't beat Ha no one people love to talk shit, sorry n for the swear, about Hampton Beach, but there's no beach like Hampton Beach in

Erika (1:21:21)
I've already swear.

Zach Remi (1:21:25)
in New England. You know, it's the only when you think about it, it's the only like true tourist beach in New England where it's like, you know, ⁓ like you think about Florida or you think about, you know, the Jersey shore. You know, it's trashy, but it's our trashy, you know. And then like you literally cannot beat our mountains. Like I I don't care what anybody says, like Maine has nothing on our mountains and Vermont has nothing on our mountains.

Erika (1:21:40)
Mm-hmm.

Eric (1:21:43)
It

is.

Zach Remi (1:21:53)
And it's like you when you're in the middle of the whites, there's you literally feel like you're just like you're not you know, you you're in a different part of the earth, you know, it's like you're really you really feel out there. And I I know Maine has that and stuff, but I just love New Hampshire and you know, so that's my hot take, yeah.

Erika (1:22:06)
Yeah.

We own it, man. There we go.

Eric (1:22:13)
The best. The best. It's

Erika (1:22:16)
Beautiful.

Eric (1:22:16)
the best of the five New England states, if you think of it. Yeah. Just the five.

Zach Remi (1:22:18)
Yeah, yes, true. ⁓

Erika (1:22:20)
Justify. Not

you, Connecticut. All right. Zach, my question for you, which we also didn't prep you for, so we apologize. ⁓ we have a Spotify playlist and we like to invite our guests to add songs to it. So I can't imagine you really tend to listen to music while you're out on your trails, but is there anything you would like to add to the list?

Zach Remi (1:22:32)
Nice.

I listen to a ton of music. I yep, and I listen I actually like in my if you look at my Strava, a lot of the times I'll put the show I'm listening to. I'm big into like jam bands, so I I listen to a lot of fish on runs 'cause it's like it's just you can zone out. So my add on would be simple by fish. That would be my add on to your run.

Erika (1:22:42)
Do you? All right.

Nice.

Nice. That's

actually a really good idea. Something that just like you don't have a a whole bunch of lyrics to focus on and you're just going.

Zach Remi (1:23:09)
Yeah, 'cause I'm not when I Yeah,

when I put like my music on, like I'm trying to like if I have like a pump up put I feel like I get in my head where I'm like, I don't like the song, I need to change it. And like fish is just like you can love or hate but like I there's no ch you just like they just it's like flow. It's kind of the same state I'm in and it actually like helps me like it doesn't get me too amped up, you know, like where

Erika (1:23:21)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Keeps you in zone

two. That's what you want a bunch of times. Yeah.

Zach Remi (1:23:39)
Yeah, exa exactly. Yes. It does help

me keep in zone too, which is nice. So yes.

Erika (1:23:44)
Excellent choice.

Eric (1:23:44)
Do you h do you have

this was a ton of fun. This is a little diff it's it was a little little different for us. Like typically we have someone big into running and

Zach Remi (1:23:48)
Thanks for having me. Yeah, I w

Eric (1:23:54)
We're just chatting, you're like, dude, come up to the Sunnepe area. Let's go for a run. Like this is months ago. And then we both realized we're big skiers. So I would love to go up and do a Sunope run. It

Zach Remi (1:24:06)
Yeah, for sure.

Erika (1:24:06)
I'll come do

a trail run. I'll come do a trail run.

Zach Remi (1:24:07)
Yeah, Tuesday it's usually Tuesday nights at six o'clock.

Eric (1:24:13)
And this is like the same crew all the time, like a dozen of you or so. Yeah. We'll get some people from here to go. Like I've yet to I've yet to do a mountain run that's all trail to the top. At least what I can think of right now, 'cause typically I'm running up multiple times up the road, training for we're not running Mount Washington this year, but

Zach Remi (1:24:16)
Pretty much. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we love that.

That's the

nice thing about like something like Sonopee is like you're not doing real like hill repeats, you know, it's like and then you it's really fun like on the way down, although you gotta like you know, control yourself a little better. Your knees and hips will feel it the next day. But you know, it's like I yeah. Sonopee's very runnable. It it's a great group of people too. Everybody wait you know, it's like I'm sure you guys will beat me to the top, so ⁓

Erika (1:24:42)
Mm-hmm.

Eric (1:24:42)
Yeah.

Erika (1:25:01)
Mm, that's debatable.

Eric (1:25:01)
⁓ not me.

Not me.

Zach Remi (1:25:05)
But yeah, and then I'd love to see what are you guys doing for races? I'd love to see you guys at a race this summer.

Erika (1:25:10)
What are we

doing? Well

Eric (1:25:11)
We're gonna be

so Millennium Running does this series on Thursday nights. Well, not Thursday nights, one Thursday night every month called Happy Hour Hustle. And I think that the closest we ever make it to you is Concord. ⁓ and then there's the Yeah, the there's the New England half. I don't know if you're into running that long, but that's one, and then we do some live shows October.

Zach Remi (1:25:19)
Okay.

Nice. I'm pretty yeah, Concord's doable for me, definitely.

When's that?

Erika (1:25:34)
October.

Zach Remi (1:25:35)
okay, and that's a road race. Where's that?

Eric (1:25:37)
Yeah.

It ends at the state capitol. It st

Zach Remi (1:25:40)
it's in

Erika (1:25:41)
It's I think it's like Hopkinton

Zach Remi (1:25:41)
Concord, nice.

Erika (1:25:42)
Hopkinton to to Concord, right? Something like that. Back roads and stuff. Hmm.

Eric (1:25:44)
It st yeah, it starts, it's like a net downhill, starts at like

Zach Remi (1:25:45)
Nice.

Eric (1:25:47)
a farm or some beautiful area and then ends right at the Capitol. Some good fall races. Summertime's hard. Erica's running a race every weekend.

Zach Remi (1:25:53)
Nice.

Erika (1:25:57)
That's

Zach Remi (1:25:57)
Hi.

Erika (1:25:57)
not totally true, but I do like summertime is my ultra season. So I've got that that seventy two I was telling you about, that's coming up ⁓ early July. And then there's one I do in Rhode Island called Anchor Down and that's like early August. So I do kind of focus like I do the spring marathon kind of thing and then I take a summer break for the ultras and then I try to get back into the the road stuff. So yeah, it's pretty fun.

Zach Remi (1:26:06)
Nice.

Nice.

Eric (1:26:22)
Yeah, next time you

Zach Remi (1:26:22)
Nice.

Eric (1:26:23)
go to Rhode Island you would love this state park that Erica runs at for Anger Downs called Colt State Park. Yeah, you would love it. You'd love it for like your running. Bristol.

Erika (1:26:29)
Beautiful area. Mm-hmm.

Zach Remi (1:26:29)
yeah. Yeah. What town is that in?

Erika (1:26:33)
⁓ it is Bristol, yeah.

Zach Remi (1:26:33)
⁓ cool. Yeah. Nice. Well you'll have to message me like and give me a heads up 'cause I'll definitely come to Concord. And then if you guys

Eric (1:26:42)
Yeah, it's I think that's July

it's a it's a Thursday in July or Thursday in August. I'll get it to you after.

Zach Remi (1:26:46)
Nice.

Erika (1:26:47)
That's the one

that I can make. The one only. Like there's five and I can make that because it's after it's after the seventy two hour race. So I'll be pretty much limping it, but I'll be there just to say hi and have some fun. So

Eric (1:26:51)
It's a five K.

Ha ha.

that'll be a lot of fun. We'll get Erica at that one and she'll stumble along the way. Or maybe you could just keep the beer cold for us. Like you can have beer for us at the line. I don't know if you drink beer, but

Erika (1:27:04)
I'll actually sign up. I'll get the content from behind.

I would honestly rather

do that. I will sit and I'll get the content. We'll get the photo finish o of who's gonna win. Is it you or is it Tara? So there's a whole thing about that. We'll see.

Eric (1:27:20)
Yeah, yeah, a little little personal

battle going on between me and someone else, Zach. But ⁓ listen, no, we'll do it. We'll do something this summer and this winter for sure. Our number one thing. My number one thing, skiing. I've y I need I need someone to show me around Stowe. I'll go on a Wednesday. Yes. That'll be a lot of fun. Guys, I hope you enjoyed this. Little different. We had Zach Remy, the New England dad, on the podcast.

Zach Remi (1:27:23)
Nice.

Yeah, and please come up to Santa Fe.

Yeah, yeah. I love that. I love s I love snow so

Erika (1:27:39)
Ha ha

Eric (1:27:48)
That was wicked awesome. What a way to kick off our summer, everybody. Zach, thank you so much for coming on the podcast. You're wicked awesome.

Zach Remi (1:27:55)
Yeah, thanks so

much. Thanks so much for having me.

Erika (1:27:58)
Thank you. This was an absolute blast. Hope you had fun too.

Erika (1:28:06)
Zach, man, we had such a blast chatting. I I just think you are so awesome and funny. And I hope you do do a performance around here. I'm one hundred percent there. I can't wait to go see you live and catch a run with you.

Eric (1:28:20)
Yeah, I want to go to show. What a cool like episode. We talked about it at the beginning of the year. We're hoping to talk to a few people who were a little different, not all running. And it was the nice tie that he is a runner. And we were talking, he's in that Sonopee Run Club. I love how he takes the break. But that was a lot of fun because then we talked a little bit about what's going on in his world and his side of things. And you could just tell, like he gets so excited and he lights up when he was talking about what he loves doing and the passion, kinda like how we love doing this and everything. And

Erika (1:28:28)
Mm-hmm.

Right.

Mm-hmm. Maple

syrup. That is such a cool hobby. Like, save me some.

Eric (1:28:51)
I know. I I never would

have known like 10 gallons of maple syrup is a lot of maple syrup. I never would have known. Not a thing. Not a thing I would have known. But he was incredible. Let me tell you the story when I asked him about how he met his wife. Not how he met his wife, but how he found out, like he's like, he had no clue she liked him. He goes, Yeah. How did you know that? And then he asked a couple times, including off air, I need to know how did you find that out? Like, cause it was somewhere like.

Erika (1:29:00)
It makes sense, yeah. Yep.

huh.

Eric (1:29:20)
Amber always loves to say somewhere out there in the interwebs. He knew it was somewhere out there, but he was like, Where was it? So that was such a fun, fun time. He's hoping to make it to a happy hour hustle in a couple weeks in July. He's like, I can do that one. So we just got to touch up with him. I don't know if you've been following. He's like a two, three week vacation camping trip down in Tennessee. It's been great. We I I

Erika (1:29:24)
Okay.

Eric if it's out there, Eric will find it.

Mm-hmm.

How c how awesome. I w I hope he

follows your recommendations. You did give him some some things to do out there. Yeah.

Eric (1:29:48)
I gave him one, yeah.

I I dropped the ball on the timing, but I got like his his info to send him a ton of stoolie stickers. But I didn't get them out in time. And when I realized he already left, I waited it. So I haven't sent them yet because but I like, Man, that would be fun. That would be fun. So

Erika (1:30:02)
Gotcha. I

need to order some more, man. I don't know how many you got if you got a secret stash, but ⁓ I'm starting to finally get around to posting more on the stoolie account and I I'm running low. ⁓ we need to I'll put it in order. I'll put it in order.

Eric (1:30:13)
Yeah. I got like two dozen. I wanna print I wanna print

the ones with the QR code on it.

Erika (1:30:20)
Hey, if you send me a new thing, like I'll I'll get ordered. But yeah, we're we are running low. I have holographic stooley stickers left and they're just not quite the same. So I I w I gotta get the originals back or the QR code ones.

Eric (1:30:22)
Yeah, that's what I want to print next.

Yeah.

Hey, have you been seeing what our friend Jared's been up to? Jared Ewing.

Erika (1:30:37)
He's been doing like hasn't he been doing the Leadville camps? Like Leadville's coming up.

Eric (1:30:41)
Bro, he's he

but he's doing what, the Grand Slam, the four one hundreds. Have you been seeing his Instagram stuff? There's a a trailer out there. And I wanna tell you about this right. And I wanna tell you about this trailer because they're making a documentary and right now they have enough like funding and and stuff for the first race. But they're they're putting out a GoFundMe and I'll find it, I'll link it in the show notes. They need a little more money and they can do the entire four races.

Erika (1:30:45)
Yep, the Yep.

Yes, and I'm pumped.

Yeah.

Ooh.

Awesome.

my God, that's amazing. If anybody deserves it's it's him.

Eric (1:31:13)
It's the whole series. Right.

Right. It's gonna be a whole series like on his accident, on his leg, on being told, Not only will you never run a marathon, you'll never run, you're probably gonna lose your leg doing it. We all know Jared's story, but he's putting it out in this professional documentary, like real legit film crew. And so he's been posting the trailer and they got a legit documentary coming out, but they want to continue it through this this whole series. So there's a GoFundMe out there.

Erika (1:31:24)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Eric (1:31:42)
I'll I'll link it in the show notes. Like this trailer has been phenomenal. You you've seen me share it once or twice in the story. I'll share it again. Yeah. I watch the whole thing. It's in I mean, it's nothing we don't know, but the the visuals. Right. And just him. And it's so cool to see Pod Fam like getting their story out there. I always say, like, you and I don't have a story, but we have a brand that we're building and a show. I'm starting to call this more a show. We'll never call it the on the run show, but it, you know.

Erika (1:31:48)
I watched it. It's awesome.

The visuals.

Mm-hmm.

Eric (1:32:12)
We have this show that we can talk to people like Jared. Jared, in a way, he's not a brand, but he's a story and he's his inspiration. And so his story deserves to be on every outlet out there. And I'm so pumped for that. First is like an influencer. He's not an influencer. You get what I'm saying? Some people pump their own tires as their own brand. Nothing wrong with that. I respect it, but I really want to pump the tires of Jared and get his story out there. And I love that we're the show that helps do that. So

Erika (1:32:21)
Mm-hmm.

Exactly.

Eric (1:32:41)
Jared's doing that. It's sick. It's so sick. So pumped.

Erika (1:32:41)
I'm so happy about that too. Well, hey, I am

hoping to be there to support him at the Vermont 100 coming up in a few weeks. So hopefully I just need Jared, reach out. Let me know what you need from me. well. I'll make sure to look my very best in my with my I don't know. My my racing stripe hairstyle and my baggy eyes when I'm driving around trying to find him in this like absolute darkness. But Jared, I'm there for you.

Eric (1:32:51)
You might be on camera.

Your new thirties.

Right.

So one thing, let's

yeah. So hey, let's talk a little bit about sponsors and partners. Cause we actually failed. We dropped the ball. It's in my show notes. At least I have show notes, six star, but it's in my show notes. My race tats, first off, thank you for your entire partnership. We're calling it the spring partnership. He jumped on the end of March.

Erika (1:33:22)
Yeah.

Always.

Eric (1:33:33)
He all Boston Weeks. He was our Boston Week's presenting sponsor, our guest segment presenting sponsor, and sponsored the final two questions for all the guest segments, all the way until the end of June. This is our last My Race Tats presenting sponsor for the guest segment. But they're not done and they're not leaving. And we're wicked excited to have them sticking around for the summer series as they are the sponsor of our final two questions, which means we have a new guest segment sponsor.

Erika (1:33:41)
Mm-hmm.

Mm.

Eric (1:34:03)
Six star Erica, do you wanna break the news?

Erika (1:34:06)
coming up this summer for the On the Runs with Love series, our sponsor is going to be Back in Action Chiropractic. Frank Abati, thank you so much for for believing in us and we're gonna help get your name out there. We're so excited to have you. Thank you very much.

Eric (1:34:24)
Frank, you are the man. And I'm so excited. You're gonna see a few new things this time around, guys. I went to Frank's office, it's in Concord. It's incredible. It was so cool to see like it's a legit gym in there. So you don't just go there and get your back cracked. He does a whole rehab and we talked to him at the show in Keene. And it's about getting your check engine light checked, right? Staying in action and getting you back in action. So throughout this series, you're gonna hear a few different ad reads that we did in

Erika (1:34:38)
How cool.

Mm-hmm.

Eric (1:34:53)
in in Concord. We even did a little three minute piece where we're I'm kind of trying to paint the picture of his office in the room and he's talking back and forth with me. These are all going to drop spontaneously throughout the series. You might get a 30 second intro in the middle of the episode, maybe one in the beginning. In the outro, you'll probably get that three minute thing every time in the very end after the music. But Frank, what we're trying to do is promote you and you're going to see this starting in the summer of love, or that's I keep calling it that, but the

Erika (1:35:00)
Okay.

Eric (1:35:21)
On the runs with love. There's going to be a link in the show notes, and we're also going to tag these in the stories and tag them. There's basically this form. And it's it's not like you're signing up for anything, but basically it's a form and a questionnaire. And there's going to be more on that. And we're going to talk about it throughout the series. And we we want to encourage you guys to go and check out this form where you can kind of like a Google Doc and you share a few things. You type in, like maybe there's a foot.

Erika (1:35:21)
I love that name. It's so good.

Mm-hmm.

Eric (1:35:48)
Injury, maybe there's a leg thing or a back thing and pretty much anything what lower limb or back to lower limb, he's gonna keep you back in action. So stay in the loop. And when you see these links, we would love for you to click them and fill out the form because that's gonna do wonders for us. That's gonna show our future partners that you guys are engaged. So if you see that, like you're not signing up for a whole entire like, give me your insurance info, social security card, just just fill the stuff out and and you kind of like.

Erika (1:35:56)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Eric (1:36:18)
Help us, we help you, we help our partners. This is incredible.

Erika (1:36:22)
Yeah, Frank wants

to help you invest in yourself. That is one of the the the core principles that he has is is you are worth investing in. So if if you have recurring injuries, he's gonna find the root cause and help you build back stronger, healthier. That's all he wants to do is just support support you. So let's support, let's support Frank.

Eric (1:36:43)
It's actually a runner's guide to be clear. It's a runner's guide. So check this thing out. You're gonna see it. And also you'll see the link if you ever want to get in touch with him. Again, his place is incredible. It's in Concord, right off 93. I drove up there from my house the other day. It took like 22 minutes. ⁓ it's perfect centralized location. Like people from Keene go there, people from Salem, people from Plymouth, Portsmouth.

Erika (1:36:45)
Mm.

Nice.

Eric (1:37:07)
It's it's perfect. And he has another guy there who is really awesome. And we kind of share his story at one of the little three minute thing because he came, he came from all over. He's like from Georgia, but spent some time in Colorado, or maybe it was the Carolinas. And now he's up here because his wife is from here. So it's not just Frank. He has a team. The facility is beautiful. I honestly I'm gonna start going soon. I'm gonna be like, yo, listen, and I just always have minor back things. And the cool thing was Frank goes to the Salem Run Club and I ran with him.

Erika (1:37:07)
Yep.

excellent.

Eric (1:37:37)
And we we did not plan that. So it was awesome. It was awesome. Frank is incredible. Back in action. Right.

Erika (1:37:39)
Yep. No, that's that's great. Invest in yourself, man. You got to invest in yourself.

Eric (1:37:44)
in action, Cairo, New Hampshire. Check them out. They're awesome. And you're going to be hearing a lot from And also one thing that's helpful for us. Tell us if you like the way we're doing these ads. Tell us if you don't like them or if you think they place better in the beginning.

Or after like like maybe after the intro, but before the guest segment, I'm gonna play around on all eight episodes and tell me what you like, what sticks the best. But we also have a third sponsor for the series, six star. Why don't you break the news on this one?

Erika (1:38:12)
this one is one of my personal favorites. We have OOfos on board as a product sponsor. So special shout out to my cousin Jen, who is amazing. But she's gonna be I I mean, it doesn't hurt, but she is generously giving each of our guests this summer ⁓ a new pair of OOFos to to help them recover from whatever their summer adventures are.

Eric (1:38:23)
It's nice knowing people, yeah.

Yes. And let's clarify something here on the pod, because episode two forty was quite possibly the greatest opening seven minutes of this podcast history, and also maybe the most uncomfortable, not just for the listeners, but for us. ⁓ let's let's let's assign this job to you. You're getting the sizes of everybody and you'll send the order in, right? Okay. So you'll

Erika (1:38:46)
Yeah.

Mm-hmm. Yes, I have a spreadsheet

already going. I just need to get a couple of addresses, but it's still early and I can get them from this point forward. So I got it covered, man.

Eric (1:39:06)
Yes, but that's gonna be

six star's job. I think you know Al Ali G suggested we have more formalized meetings and I think that is a smart thing. So we have expectations of who's doing what.

Erika (1:39:10)
you guys can come point fingers at me.

Yeah.

So speaking

of our little tiff the other day, ⁓ you guys, I am no innocent party in this. I totally was was egging him on all weekend long. So he just I don't blame you for for blowing your top. I am no innocent party. But you also called me afterwards and apologized, which I appreciate. Like and I apologize too because that's what we do. We argue, we fight, like, but there is love here. So I try not to do this anymore.

Eric (1:39:31)
She was purposely pissing me off, guys.

Well, I called because not only

did I apologize, I offered to re start do the whole thing over, is what I offered. And you're like, No, keep it. You're probably like, Keep it because you look like a real asshole.

Erika (1:39:50)
Take down. Yeah. Yeah. And I was just like, Yeah, whatever. Well

that would have been your choice to take it down if you didn't like it. So you're like, This is gold. So I it honestly that's that's what happens sometimes. Him and I are just like I get annoyed, he gets annoyed, we annoy each other, and then shit happens.

Eric (1:40:05)
It was. It for yeah, yeah.

What what we should have done

was we should have talked before we hit record.

Erika (1:40:18)
That probably would have been a little wiser, but hey, it happened, so she literally could not shrink off screen fast enough. She's like, my God, get me out of here.

Eric (1:40:21)
Yeah. Yeah. Terra poor terra pterodactyl.

I I just I

I do have clips of it. I just haven't had the time to post. Party hack, by the way. So we have a graduation party going on right now, and there's like thirty people over. Everyone's been really awesome and respectful. It's my youngest niece's ⁓ party and also nephew. It's on Ashley's side. ⁓ years ago we had one of these. It was awful. And I was like, We'll never do it again. And I swear Ashley says we'll never do it again, but she always does it every time.

Erika (1:40:34)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Ha ha ha.

Eric (1:40:54)
And it's probably gonna go late. So what's can sometimes be a problem is music. But I took the speaker and I started playing on Spotify a summer party playlist. Has a huge mix of everything that people like. But the nice part is no one's been like, can I play my music? It's still playing right now as we're podcasting. And I got my phone plugged in. And so I set right I set the tone with the music.

Erika (1:40:58)
Mm, ⁓ huh.

Nice.

Something for everyone.

Eric (1:41:21)
But at the same time, I've been off my phone. Like I have the ringer on silent. And I wanted to make reels for Zach, like the Monday Night Teaser, which you're not gonna see on Monday night. You're gonna see tomorrow, like when this party's over, I make it. But I'll actually like schedule it to drop on Tuesday. And it's cause I'm like, I don't want to stop the music. Cause then someone when the when the speaker did die, and someone's like, What happened to music? I rushed to get the charger. And I'm like, I can't let someone else take over. I can't. So party hack.

Erika (1:41:42)
Mm.

Eric (1:41:50)
Set the tone with the music if you are worried about what others are gonna play, especially like well it I mean it it it has everything. It had Miley Cyrus, it had Snoop Dogg, it had like One Republic, it ha it's had everything. And I've just had the phone, yeah, very chill. it's been fantastic, fantastic, a fantastic playlist, whoever created it. It actually said created for you. So I think Spotify. Right.

Erika (1:41:53)
if you want mellow stuff, you play the mellow stuff. Like if you want a mellow party.

Still some chill tunes.

Yeah.

So then it's Spotify, that algorithm.

⁓ d do you play that kind of stuff every once in a while for like Adeline or like

Eric (1:42:25)
No, it hasn't played like dance mode or anything, no. But but maybe it played one song. I forget. I haven't skipped any, but it's been a great playlist. And I told them I'd be back by ten thirty eight thirty to to supervise. I'm the only one who's not like well actually no, there's a lot of people not drinking, but some of the like Ashley's mom's here and her aunt's here and I'm like and her sister's here and a lot of a lot of adults are here and I'm like I feel like I'm the only adult who hasn't had a sip of alcohol and I don't

Erika (1:42:27)
⁓ wonderful.

No complaints.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Gotcha.

Eric (1:42:53)
typically do that anyways. I would have at the gallop if the party happened or something, but no, I wouldn't have because I had to drive all the way to Wilmington. Well, Tewkesbury to pick up Adeline, but I went to Wilmington because gas was 335 in Wilmington.

Erika (1:42:59)
Well we yeah, we didn't actually

yeah, yeah, yeah.

You drove all the way to get more gas. ⁓ That's not bad. Okay. That's so funny. Well, we didn't actually do a party, so you didn't miss out.

Eric (1:43:11)
It was another mile and a half from the the Tookesbury location, but I I f saw it on the Gas Buddy app. So so

I know, I know. And I wasn't jealous of the pitcher because it was a smaller group. I do get envious some no, I'm talking about at Pipe Dream or whatever place you went to. Yeah.

Erika (1:43:28)
What picture? You were in it. I posted one today. ⁓ Yeah. It w

⁓ spyglass. But yeah.

Eric (1:43:37)
But I

mean like if it was a big party at D Danielle's house or something and I saw a group photo of everybody, I would have been really bummed. I would have well, no, because I still had to go places, but I would have been really bummed. I would have been like I missed out on that.

Erika (1:43:42)
We would have been fighting again, yep.

Hmm. You really didn't miss much.

I s I I had a few beers, but we were also there for like five hours. So it was chill.

Eric (1:43:57)
Yeah. So couple couple notes, guys. We typically always take the summer off. Our our next episode will either drop Tuesday or Wednesday. I'm going on a six day camping trip and it might like very likely drop on Wednesday. That will probably be the first ⁓ on the runs with love episode on Wednesday next week. possibly Tuesday. But if you have to wait one more day, you have to wait one more day. The the producer and the editor is taking a little bit of me time.

Erika (1:44:17)
Mm.

Hey, don't stress yourself out, man. Don't don't stress yourself out.

He's loud.

Eric (1:44:29)
After that, we will be at the happy hour hustle on July 16th. That is, I'm calling it right now. And yes, I'm doing this on purpose because Terra pterodactyl is saying she's probably not gonna go because of a girls' night. Didn't invite the guys. That's probably gonna be my birthday run. That's the closest run to my birthday.

Erika (1:44:49)
So should I actually sign up then? I was gonna go and just hang out with you? Okay. I can do that.

Eric (1:44:51)
No, just come and hang out after. I think Zach might

come, our guest today. I think Zach might go to that one.

Erika (1:44:56)
Well

good. Maybe I'll I will get some content for you.

Eric (1:44:59)
Unless we go to the Salem Run Club the week after, which is actually the day after my birthday. But I don't know if I'll be camping or something. So I do hope when we talked about it and we think our calendar's clear, we're gonna go to the Salem Run Club on Thursday, the ninth, and then the happy hour hustle on the 16th. And then I think right, I think we will come back for like a troze only episode.

Erika (1:45:12)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

I think I can swing those.

Eric (1:45:25)
At the very end of the month, we might bring on Letty. I know we tease that. We might bring on running our Marathon Journal and talk about the news and do that at the end of every month. And then we don't, we'll tell you then like what we're doing in August because Erica leaves on the 24th and she's gone for over two weeks to Australia and New Zealand. And I won't talk to her once. I won't ask her to come on once. I might ask someone to co-host with me. I might ask more than one person. Like I might be like,

Erika (1:45:29)
Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Eric (1:45:51)
Try to fill in two or three weeks there because when you come back, you're gonna be really messed up on your time schedule. And so maybe that Tuesday after Labor Day, I still have someone else co host because you'll be you'll be messed up. And then and then we'll

Erika (1:46:05)
Hey, give me the option though.

I just want the option and I will tell you if I am dead to the world.

Eric (1:46:10)
Well well, I'm thinking the option

yeah, maybe that could be just like you and me talking about August and your trip. And maybe we bring on somebody to like question you too. Co host.

Erika (1:46:17)
That would be cool.

Sure. But I

am hoping to do a much better job because I am so excited about Australia. I don't even know all the stuff we're gonna wind up doing there. We haven't planned out many of our trips, like excursions. Let's call them excursions. But it's gonna be awesome. I am just so excited to see somewhere across the world that I haven't been before. I I'm excited to share that.

Eric (1:46:44)
You know, I might actually be there in October. Yeah, I might, I might, I might, I I doubt it. I doubt it. I absolutely doubt it, but it's been asked. Like, would I want to go? Because the guy who did trade shows, the guy who did trade shows has been barred from going to trade shows. So

Erika (1:46:47)
Are you go what? Is this a work trip? What?

And I hope the answer was absolutely. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Well, that sucks

to be him, but that's pretty awesome for you.

Eric (1:47:10)
I I did look up flights. Like it's crazy because I would actually be going to Perth, which is Western Australia. Yeah. Yeah.

Erika (1:47:15)
no way. Okay. So that

if if you've been listening to all of our seven seven seven recaps in the past, that was one of the locations that they had. That's where they had those.

Eric (1:47:23)
That's right. If

I go, I'm gonna go run on that route. Yeah.

Erika (1:47:27)
There you go. That's not

where mm, where does where does Joe live? Our podiatrist friend. Adelaide. Okay. Okay. Yep. I'm trying to think. So Perth is over Perth is over here. Sydney's on the opposite side. And then the little like bump out is Adelaide. Okay. The Texas. It it's good.

Eric (1:47:32)
No, he lived in Adelaide, kinda like what would be the Texas of Australia. Like if you're looking at Australia. Yeah.

Yeah.

What a

For just like, okay, pretend we're in the meeting right now and we're talking about like expectations and what I want. When I say content on these trips, I actually just want like up to the minute story post.

Like I'm not looking for you to do funny dances and posting reels. I love the photo post you would do at the end of every day, which I would I happily will do for you. But I love the daily, hey guys, what's up? You know, not during the race. You don't have to do it during the race, but post pre and post. And that's what I was really hoping for. And that's what I'm asking for in content is on the weekend story post of what we're doing. So

Erika (1:47:59)
Ha

I got that.

Okay.

Story posts are

a little bit easier. I guess it all depends on what I have for for like internet and service 'cause that's if I have to pay for it, that's gonna be could be expensive.

Eric (1:48:31)
That that's true. That's true. You could always take

the videos and then post them at night in the story. That's 'cause I sometimes run into that realm and I just take a video. Yeah.

Erika (1:48:39)
I feel like that is an that's an easier way

to to do things for me. Like like the way I did Chicago last year was when I was trying to unwind at night and we're watching T V in the hotel and I'm I can be on my phone and I feel like I'm not missing anything. So that that will I can I can at least guarantee I can do stuff like that. As I go, that may be different.

Eric (1:48:58)
Yeah. But that trip that trip

you're not required to do anything. You're not expected. You're not expected. You're with family.

Erika (1:49:03)
Why? 'Cause gonna do it all.

Eric (1:49:09)
But when you go to like what's the big altar you got coming up when you'll be there with Carolina? That's that's where I expect story updates.

Erika (1:49:14)
That's coming up in two weeks.

There's just not the best service there. I will make it work. I will make it work. We'll make it work. We'll make it work. Yeah. What I have a year.

Eric (1:49:22)
Then you could put then I I think Carolina will make it work. Yeah, yeah. What a year. No, not a year. It's not over. What a

what a first half of the year. So our biggest moments ever. We now have partners, like paying partners. We do more live shows from expos from City Hall Plaza in Boston, Massachusetts, post-race, Boston Marathon Party, post-race party.

Erika (1:49:48)
⁓ my God, it was amazing.

Eric (1:49:52)
At a world major. We were a stage host early in the year. Boston Weeks was a huge success. We had Meb Kaflecki. God damn it. I can't say it again. I mastered it last April. Kafleski. What what a first

Erika (1:50:04)
Kaflesgi. There you go. He it.

Eric (1:50:12)
What a first half of the year. Like we started off with bare butt wipes, fittingly, and Kara D'Amato. And then we had Ultra Chad and we had Liz Boyd, Then we had catch up to cancer and Juliana from Runner, Kayla Zawerko, what a new amazing friend of ours. Rika, right? Hannah did Tokyo.

Erika (1:50:18)
⁓ Kira.

She's so amazing.

Eric (1:50:32)
The we we did dabbled a little bit in triathlon again with the LA triathlete. Like Boston Weeks, Team Right, Boston Weeks with Team Hoyt. The live show in Keene. And again, the BAA stuff. Incredible. The last couple months, just like we went all the way to Australia. Jason with the Arizona Monster 300 and then girls on the run. Guys, I really hope I didn't sound like a douche or whatever last week in the in the outro saying like.

Erika (1:50:36)
Carolyn was so cool.

Mm.

Yeah.

Eric (1:51:02)
Yo, guys, this, guys, that. I just want to pump the tires for the guys sometimes and support men's mental health. But I love, I love supporting the girls. And that was such a fun episode of Jennifer for Girls on the Run. Like what a first half of the year. What a first half. Randy Zuckerberg. Do you love how we never mentioned Facebook or or her brother until the outro? I had a couple.

Erika (1:51:09)
Mm-hmm. It is an important thing.

Yeah.

Mm. There was no need.

She's amazing on her own. Mm-hmm.

Eric (1:51:30)
There was no need. And we want

to tell these people, we want them to feel like they can come on and just enjoy their conversation, not be like talked about that stuff. And we had a couple people say, like, that was a joke. That's not really Mark Zuckerberg's sister. I was like, even my sister thought that. I was like, yes, it was. A few people like, is that really? Because yes, it is. And they love that episode. She was like a hybrid of she was like a hybrid of Amber and Britney.

Erika (1:51:38)
Mm-hmm.

Ha

I love her too, said

I I know. It doesn't get any better. She's a ⁓ all of them are amazing. But pa put in one little package, it's perfect.

Eric (1:51:59)
Yeah.

And and and

right, incredible first half of the year, guys. Enjoy your summer. Enjoy the fourth of July. Happy birthday, America, 250 years. I'm proud of you. We're not perfect. I know some people are like they're not happy or proud to be an American. I don't judge, but we are in happy birthday, America. 250 years. You look incredible. Six star, take us home.

Erika (1:52:22)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Man, I hope you enjoy your camping trip. And if there is an episode a day late, it's not a big deal. But enjoy yourself, enjoy the time off, and I hope you have great weather. I know it's a heat wave coming, but everybody out there, ⁓ good.

Eric (1:52:41)
Gonna be nice in the mountains and Santa's

village has an epic water park.

Erika (1:52:46)
There we go. Then even better. But everybody out there, thank you so much for listening. You know we love you.

Eric (1:52:49)
Yes.

Don't fear the code brown and have an amazing summer, everybody.

Erika (1:52:56)
And don't forget to stretch.