Dr. Pepper....Really?

How to Maintain Vital Hormone Balance While Losing or Regaining Weight

Gary Pepper, M.D. Season 4 Episode 4

Join Dr. Gary Pepper, board certified endocrinologist, who, with the help of two chatty chat bot assistants, focuses on how rapid weight loss or gain can alter levels of vital hormones such as estrogen and testosterone.In a pleasant conversational style the trio makes sense of hormone imbalance accompanying rapid weight changes, often overlooked when thinking about using weight loss drugs such as Ozempic, Wegovy, and Mounjaro.  These chemical changes are critical to your health, mood and energy when on these medications.  And please stick around until the end of this podcast to hear some simple steps to  help avoid the surprisingly harmful Refeeding Syndrome, the unwanted effects of regaining weight too rapidly once the medication has stopped.      So as Doja Cat says, let’s get into it…ya!
 
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Gary Pepper, M.D., an associate professor at a prominent medical school and endocrinologist with 40 years of experience, brings clarity to numerous topics within the field of metabolic health. His view points are unhindered by corporate interests, unlike many other current "thought leaders" in medicine. Dr. Pepper, a dedicated educator, established his homebase website www.metabolism.com in 1996 and has blogged on important topics since then. Not one to be left behind by technology he began podcasting in 2020 with the onset of the pandemic and continues publishing vlogs on YouTube at his channel metabolism123. So whatever your choice in media, you will be gaining fresh insights by tuning in to his opinionated shows or reading his blogs on critical health topics.

<b>Talk about mixed signals. Yeah, it's like</b><b>the body is an overdrive trying to figure</b><b>out what's going on. And that's why</b><b>understanding these hormonal changes is</b><b>so important. They're not just numbers on</b><b>a lab report. They have real consequences</b><b>for how we feel, how our bodies function</b><b>and ultimately our health in the long</b><b>run. Yeah, it's easy to get caught up in</b><b>those numbers on the scale. But like you</b><b>were saying, those visible changes, those</b><b>are important, too. So</b><b>let's talk about those.</b><b>Hey there, everyone.</b><b>This is Dr. Pepper, really.</b><b>And in today's podcast, we're going to be</b><b>talking about a subject which I think is</b><b>somewhat overlooked when discussing</b><b>things like ozimpic, Wagave and manjaro</b><b>and how it creates rapid weight loss.</b><b>My concern is that during rapid weight</b><b>loss, there are other changes going on in</b><b>our body other than our physical</b><b>appearance, particularly in</b><b>the realm of our hormones.</b><b>And this can have a great impact on how</b><b>we feel and how our body functions.</b><b>We'll be talking about that in a minute.</b><b>And towards the end of the podcast, I'd</b><b>also like to examine something even less</b><b>known. And that is the effect of rapid</b><b>weight gain after</b><b>stopping the medication.</b><b>This could be a tricky time for the body</b><b>and can lead to a condition known as the</b><b>refeeding syndrome, which can be rather</b><b>serious. There are a number of somewhat</b><b>simple nutritional approaches that we can</b><b>discuss to prevent such an outcome.</b><b>So it's going to be</b><b>worthwhile to hang around and listen.</b><b>As Doge Cat says,</b><b>let's get into it, y'all.</b><b>All right, buckle up, because today we're</b><b>taking a deep dive into the fascinating</b><b>and often confusing world</b><b>of estrogen and obesity,</b><b>and we're adding another layer to this</b><b>whole thing. What happens when you throw</b><b>rapid weight loss into the mix? Yeah,</b><b>it's definitely not as simple as just</b><b>calories in calories out, right?</b><b>Absolutely not. We're talking hormones</b><b>here, people. And from the looks of it,</b><b>you've really been digging into this.</b><b>Research papers, chatbot conversations.</b><b>You've gone down quite the rabbit hole.</b><b>But what really stood out to me was your</b><b>fascination with rapid weight loss and</b><b>how it impacts our reproductive hormones.</b><b>I mean, you mentioned things like</b><b>intermittent fasting and even more</b><b>extreme situations like anorexia.</b><b>It's hard to interrupt, but</b><b>let's not forget, of course,</b><b>the effect of the use of medications like</b><b>zempic, wagave, tears</b><b>of peptide and manjaro.</b><b>OK, so let's keep going.</b><b>It's pretty clear you're eager to get to</b><b>the bottom of this. It's pretty</b><b>fascinating stuff. I mean, we're talking</b><b>about how these hormones, especially when</b><b>they're all over the place, affect so</b><b>much more than just our reproductive</b><b>systems, right? Mood swings, energy</b><b>crashes, bone hell. Even our metabolism</b><b>gets thrown for a loop. Right, right.</b><b>It's all connected. It's like this crazy</b><b>hormonal symphony orchestra.</b><b>And rapid weight loss is like the</b><b>conductor who's lost their sheet music.</b><b>Yeah. So so where do we even begin to</b><b>unpack all of this? OK, so let's break it</b><b>down. We've got our all star players,</b><b>testosterone and estrogen, the classic</b><b>sex hormones, but they don't just operate</b><b>in isolation, right? We have a mother</b><b>hormones like S.H.B.G. that's sex hormone</b><b>binding globulin, by the way. And it</b><b>essentially acts as a chaperone for these</b><b>hormones. It determines how much of them</b><b>are actually free to, you know, do their</b><b>thing and interact with our cells. So</b><b>S.H.B.G. is kind of like the bouncer at</b><b>the hormone party, letting some in and</b><b>turning others away. Exactly. And then</b><b>we've got growth hormone and IGF-1, which</b><b>are obviously essential for growth and</b><b>development. And they're also part of</b><b>this intricate dance. But here's the</b><b>thing. Weight, especially when it</b><b>fluctuates rapidly, can really throw this</b><b>whole system out of whack. OK, so that</b><b>makes sense. But what actually happens to</b><b>our hormone levels when we lose weight</b><b>quickly? Does everything just sort of</b><b>plummet? Well, not quite. It's not always</b><b>so black and white. Take</b><b>testosterone, for instance.</b><b>You know, you sent over some research</b><b>about how rapid weight loss affects it,</b><b>particularly in men who</b><b>are dealing with obesity.</b><b>There is that one study impact of weight</b><b>loss on reproductive hormones in obese</b><b>men. And it found that for men with a</b><b>higher BMI, losing weight quickly</b><b>actually led to a bigger drop in</b><b>testosterone compared to gradual weight</b><b>loss. Kind of counterintuitive, right? It</b><b>really is. You'd think that losing</b><b>weight, especially a lot of it, would be</b><b>a good thing for those hormone levels,</b><b>not the other way</b><b>around. Yeah, it's surprising.</b><b>It's me again.</b><b>I'm thinking that the effect is probably</b><b>related to the rate at which the body</b><b>weight is changing, since in nature,</b><b>rapid weight changes are very stressful.</b><b>Let's keep going.</b><b>But it just goes to show how incredibly</b><b>complex this whole system is. Hormones,</b><b>you know, they don't always follow the</b><b>rules. We think they should. That's for</b><b>sure. OK, so what about estrogen?</b><b>I mean, your research on estrogen and</b><b>obesity was really interesting. Yeah,</b><b>estrogen is a bit of a double edged sword</b><b>when it comes to obesity. On one hand, it</b><b>can actually help protect against obesity</b><b>and even problems with how our bodies use</b><b>glucose. But on the other hand, it can</b><b>also promote fat</b><b>storage, especially in women.</b><b>There was that interesting study you</b><b>found about how estrogen effects where</b><b>mice store fat mainly in their bellies.</b><b>So it's almost like estrogen has this</b><b>regulatory role kind of influencing where</b><b>we pack on the pounds. But when it's out</b><b>of balance, it can actually increase the</b><b>risk of weight gain and even potentially</b><b>lead to more serious issues down the line</b><b>like diabetes. You got it.</b><b>A special note here is that</b><b>as estrogen levels decline during</b><b>menopause, it can also cause a shift in</b><b>the way fat is</b><b>distributed to the abdomen,</b><b>causing what we refer to as a beer belly.</b><b>And also it can enhance the</b><b>overall weight gain effect.</b><b>And when we add rapid weight loss into</b><b>the mix, it gets even more complex.</b><b>Remember that excerpt you share from the</b><b>effects of diet and exercise on</b><b>endogenous estrogens. It suggested that</b><b>rapid weight loss could significantly</b><b>impact estrogen levels in women who have</b><b>already gone through menopause. Wow,</b><b>that's huge. And what about S.H.B.G. our</b><b>hormonal bouncer? Does dropping weight</b><b>quickly affect how it does its job?</b><b>Definitely. You know, that chatbot</b><b>conversation you mentioned was on to</b><b>something. Rapid weight loss usually</b><b>leads to an increase in S.H.B.G. levels.</b><b>And remember, S.H.B.G. binds to key</b><b>hormones, which makes them less available</b><b>to the body. So even if your body is</b><b>producing what seems like a normal amount</b><b>of testosterone or estrogen, having</b><b>higher S.H.B.G. means less of those</b><b>hormones are actually active in doing</b><b>their thing. So even though someone is</b><b>losing weight, which we usually think of</b><b>as positive, their hormone levels might</b><b>be telling a very</b><b>different story. That's wild.</b><b>Exactly. And it's one of the things that</b><b>makes hormones so fascinating. They don't</b><b>always play by the rules. And, you know,</b><b>we haven't even touched on growth hormone</b><b>and IGF-1 yet. These guys are especially</b><b>impacted by extreme weight loss, like we</b><b>see in anorexia. Right. Right. The</b><b>chatbot mentioned that anorexia can</b><b>actually lead to higher levels of growth</b><b>hormone, but suppressed IGF-1. Talk about</b><b>mixed signals. Yeah, it's like the body</b><b>is an overdrive trying to figure out</b><b>what's going on. And that's why</b><b>understanding these hormonal changes is</b><b>so important. They're not just numbers on</b><b>a lab report. They have real consequences</b><b>for how we feel, how our bodies function</b><b>and ultimately our health in the long</b><b>run. Yeah, it's easy to get caught up in</b><b>those numbers on the scale. But like you</b><b>were saying, those visible changes, those</b><b>are important, too. So let's talk about</b><b>those. How does rapid weight loss</b><b>actually show up in our bodies? You know,</b><b>what's happening on the outside? Right.</b><b>Those visible changes are often our</b><b>body's way of trying to</b><b>tell us something's up.</b><b>OK, at this point, let's shift our focus</b><b>to the effect of the rapid weight loss on</b><b>bone density with complications of</b><b>osteoporosis. Which is</b><b>severe forms of weight loss.</b><b>Let's start with bone density, which is</b><b>so important for our overall health,</b><b>especially as we get older. And this is</b><b>especially important for women. You found</b><b>some really interesting research about</b><b>postmenopausal women.</b><b>Estrogen actually plays a big role in</b><b>keeping our bones strong, right? Right.</b><b>So when estrogen levels drop, which can</b><b>happen with rapid weight loss, it can</b><b>lead to a big decrease in bone density,</b><b>which can make someone more likely to</b><b>develop osteoporosis. And fractures. Wow.</b><b>It's a good reminder that it's not just</b><b>about looking thin. It's about the health</b><b>of our bones,</b><b>especially as we age. Absolutely.</b><b>OK, now it's time for us to change focus</b><b>again on how rapid weight loss can affect</b><b>our sex lives in terms of libido or sex</b><b>drive and also bodily function changes,</b><b>such as disruption of the menstrual cycle</b><b>and in men erectile dysfunction.</b><b>And then there's libido or sex drive,</b><b>which is, of course, very much connected</b><b>to those hormonal ups and downs we've</b><b>been talking about. When testosterone is</b><b>low, estrogen is low, SHBG is high. Those</b><b>can all contribute to a lower sex drive</b><b>in both men and women. Makes sense. Like</b><b>if your body's in survival mode because</b><b>of the rapid weight loss, it's probably</b><b>not going to be too concerned with, you</b><b>know, romance or making babies. Exactly.</b><b>Reproduction just isn't a top priority</b><b>when your body thinks it's in a famine.</b><b>And speaking of which, for women, these</b><b>hormonal imbalances can really mess with</b><b>their menstrual cycles. You mentioned</b><b>anorexia, and it's super common to see</b><b>irregular periods or even a menorrhea,</b><b>which is when your period stops</b><b>altogether in those cases. It's like our</b><b>bodies hit the pause button on certain</b><b>functions to save energy when they think</b><b>we're in trouble. Exactly. It's a</b><b>fascinating evolutionary adaptation.</b><b>But let's talk about some other visible</b><b>things that can change, like our hair,</b><b>skin and even where we store fat. These</b><b>might seem kind of superficial, but they</b><b>can be really upsetting for people. And</b><b>they usually point to those</b><b>same hormonal shifts. Absolutely.</b><b>What causes those changes? Is it just</b><b>because we're not getting enough</b><b>nutrients or is there more to it? It's a</b><b>little of both. Nutrient deficiencies</b><b>definitely play a role, especially if</b><b>someone's really cutting back on their</b><b>calories. But those hormonal changes</b><b>we've been discussing are really</b><b>important, too. Thinning hair, dry skin,</b><b>brittle nails, all of those can be linked</b><b>to hormonal imbalances. Hormones affect</b><b>everything from collagen production,</b><b>which keeps our skin looking young and</b><b>healthy, to how our hair follicles work,</b><b>which determines hair growth. And when it</b><b>comes to fab distribution, our hormones</b><b>kind of tell our bodies where to store</b><b>fat. So as hormone levels change with</b><b>rapid weight loss, you might see changes</b><b>in body shape, even if you are losing</b><b>weight overall. So even if you're losing</b><b>weight, you might not be losing it from</b><b>the places you want to, all because of</b><b>these complex hormonal interactions.</b><b>That's right. It can be frustrating, but</b><b>it shows how important it is to think</b><b>about weight loss in a holistic way. It's</b><b>not just about the number on the scale.</b><b>It's about understanding how our hormones</b><b>and metabolism work together and finding</b><b>a sustainable way to lose weight that's</b><b>good for both our physical</b><b>and mental health. Absolutely.</b><b>OK, now, as I mentioned at</b><b>the beginning of the podcast,</b><b>it's time to look at what happens to us,</b><b>our bodies, our hormones,</b><b>when we start to regain weight, which is</b><b>common when you stop the</b><b>weight loss medications.</b><b>OK, so let's say someone has gone through</b><b>a period of rapid weight loss and they've</b><b>experienced some of these hormonal and</b><b>physical changes we've been discussing.</b><b>What happens when they start eating</b><b>normally again? Does everything just</b><b>magically go back to normal? Well, it's</b><b>not always that simple. It's not always a</b><b>reset button, unfortunately. Refeeding,</b><b>especially after a period of really</b><b>severe restriction, like we see with</b><b>anorexia nervosa, can be tricky. It's not</b><b>just about upping your calories again. In</b><b>fact, doing that too quickly can lead to</b><b>something called refeeding syndrome,</b><b>which can be really dangerous. Refeeding</b><b>syndrome, that sounds serious. What makes</b><b>it so risky and what's actually happening</b><b>in the body? So imagine your body has</b><b>been in starvation mode, right?</b><b>Conserving energy, holding on to those</b><b>essential nutrients just to survive. And</b><b>then suddenly it's flooded with</b><b>nutrients. This can overwhelm your</b><b>metabolism and lead to a bunch of changes</b><b>in your body. One of the biggest things</b><b>to worry about is a sudden drop in</b><b>phosphate levels in the blood, which is</b><b>an important electrolyte. Why is</b><b>phosphate so important during refeeding?</b><b>Well, phosphate is essential for a whole</b><b>bunch of bodily functions, producing</b><b>energy, muscle functions, cell signaling,</b><b>even pH balance. When you start eating</b><b>again after not eating enough for a</b><b>while, your body wants to use those new</b><b>nutrients to rebuild and repair tissues.</b><b>This process needs a lot of phosphate. If</b><b>your body has been low on phosphate for a</b><b>long time, it can't keep up with this</b><b>sudden increase in demand, which can</b><b>cause serious problems. You could see</b><b>muscle weakness, heart problems,</b><b>breathing difficulties, even seizures.</b><b>It's really important to manage it</b><b>carefully. It's important to add at this</b><b>point that with the refeeding syndrome,</b><b>there can also be prominent fluid shifts</b><b>in our body and fluid retention with the</b><b>development of swelling in</b><b>the legs and even in the face.</b><b>And there's a form of severe fluid</b><b>retention, which affects the whole body,</b><b>which is known as anisarka. But</b><b>fortunately, that's quite rare.</b><b>This is really important information,</b><b>especially for anyone dealing with a</b><b>situation where refeeding is necessary.</b><b>So how do you prevent refeeding syndrome?</b><b>Is it just a matter of slowly increasing</b><b>how much you eat or are there other</b><b>things to keep in mind? Wow, it's amazing</b><b>how much goes on in our bodies that we</b><b>don't even think about this. Refeeding</b><b>thing sounds really delicate. It is. It's</b><b>definitely not as simple as just going</b><b>back to your regular meals. You have to</b><b>reintroduce calories very gradually. And</b><b>it's not just about the calories you have</b><b>to keep a close eye on electrolytes to,</b><b>especially phosphorus, potassium and</b><b>magnesium, making sure the person is</b><b>getting enough of those, either from food</b><b>or sometimes supplements. Right. So it's</b><b>about replenishing all those important</b><b>nutrients that were depleted. Yeah.</b><b>Right. Could you give us some examples of</b><b>foods that are especially good sources of</b><b>these electrolytes? You know, just some</b><b>practical tips for our listeners. Sure.</b><b>For phosphorus, dairy products are great</b><b>things like milk, yogurt, cheese,</b><b>lentils, beans, nuts and seeds are good</b><b>too. For potassium, bananas, avocados,</b><b>sweet potatoes, spinach, beans, those are</b><b>all good sources. And when it comes to</b><b>magnesium, almonds, spinach, dark</b><b>chocolate, those are your friends. Oh,</b><b>and avocados for magnesium as well.</b><b>Awesome. Those specific examples make it</b><b>so much easier to see how this all works</b><b>in real life. Exactly. It's all about</b><b>giving people the information they need</b><b>to make good</b><b>decisions about their health.</b><b>Well, we've covered a lot of ground</b><b>today, haven't we? From the ins and outs</b><b>of our hormones to the visible changes we</b><b>see and the complexities of refeeding. If</b><b>you had to leave our listener with just</b><b>one key takeaway message</b><b>today, what would it be?</b><b>That's a tough one. But I think the most</b><b>important message is that our bodies are</b><b>incredibly complex and resilient and</b><b>hormones play a much bigger role than we</b><b>often give them credit for. Rapid weight</b><b>loss, even though it's often seen as this</b><b>quick fix, can actually disrupt that</b><b>delicate hormonal balance. And that can</b><b>have all sorts of unintended consequences</b><b>that go way beyond just the number on the</b><b>scale. It's a good reminder that weight</b><b>loss is not just about willpower. It's</b><b>about listening to our bodies and finding</b><b>a sustainable approach that supports our</b><b>overall health, both mentally and</b><b>physically. Absolutely. And while some</b><b>ups and downs in our hormones are totally</b><b>normal, really rapid weight loss can set</b><b>off a chain reaction that we might not</b><b>even realize is happening until we see</b><b>those changes in our bodies or even</b><b>worse, run into health problems down the</b><b>line. So important. It's all about making</b><b>smart choices that</b><b>benefit us in the long run.</b><b>I'd like to interject a word of caution</b><b>here because handling of the refeeding</b><b>syndrome in this period of time can</b><b>result in serious medical complications.</b><b>And should be done under the supervision</b><b>of qualified physician</b><b>and nutrition specialists.</b><b>The information that we're providing here</b><b>at this time is for educational purposes</b><b>only and not meant as</b><b>medical advice or treatment.</b><b>Well, we've covered a lot of ground</b><b>today, haven't we? From the ins and outs</b><b>of our hormones to the visible changes we</b><b>see and the complexities of refeeding. If</b><b>you had to leave our listener with just</b><b>one key takeaway message</b><b>today, what would it be?</b><b>That's a tough one. But I think the most</b><b>important message is that our bodies are</b><b>incredibly complex and resilient and</b><b>hormones play a much bigger role than we</b><b>often give them credit for.</b><b>Rapid weight loss, even though it's often</b><b>seen as this quick fix, can actually</b><b>disrupt that delicate hormonal balance</b><b>and that can have all sorts of unintended</b><b>consequences that go way beyond just the</b><b>number on the scale. It's a good reminder</b><b>that weight loss is not just about</b><b>willpower, it's about listening to our</b><b>bodies and finding a sustainable approach</b><b>that supports our overall health, both</b><b>mentally and physically. Absolutely. And</b><b>while some ups and downs in our hormones</b><b>are totally normal, really rapid weight</b><b>loss can set off a chain reaction that we</b><b>might not even realize is happening until</b><b>we see those changes in our bodies or,</b><b>even worse, run into health problems down</b><b>the line. So important. It's all about</b><b>making smart choices that</b><b>benefit us in the long run.</b><b>Well, you've really given us a lot to</b><b>think about today and a huge thank you to</b><b>you, our listener, for bringing up this</b><b>incredibly important topic. And as you</b><b>continue to learn about all this, here's</b><b>something else to consider. We've been</b><b>talking about the immediate effects of</b><b>rapid weight loss. But what about the</b><b>long-term effects, especially for people</b><b>who go through cycles of losing and</b><b>gaining weight, you know, yo-yo dieting?</b><b>How do these constant changes in weight</b><b>and therefore hormones affect our</b><b>metabolism and reproductive health over</b><b>time? There's no easy answer, but it's</b><b>definitely something to think about as we</b><b>try to navigate the confusing world of</b><b>weight management and figure out what it</b><b>really means to be healthy. Absolutely.</b><b>Okay, so that wraps up the podcast for</b><b>today and I hope you got some useful</b><b>information out of it.</b><b>If you have any suggestions for future</b><b>podcasts, I'm always eager</b><b>to hear from our listeners.</b><b>So please feel free to email info at</b><b>metabolism.com. And as always, we really</b><b>need the support of our listeners by</b><b>subscribing and putting likes on the</b><b>podcast so that we can continue to</b><b>provide this kind of useful information.</b><b>Okay, stay well and</b><b>thanks again for listening.</b><b>The contents of this podcast are for</b><b>educational purposes only. And if you</b><b>really have some concerns about your</b><b>health or medical issues, please consult</b><b>with your own health care provider.</b>