The Aspirant Podcast
Hello, incredible entrepreneurs, and welcome to 'The Aspirant Podcast!' I’m your host, Natasha Clawson, a Digital Marketing Educator and Strategist, and I’m here to help you build a business that doesn’t just work but thrives—and feels good while doing it.
🌟 Every week, we explore actionable business wisdom designed to help you create a business that aligns with your values, generates the income you desire, and operates like a well-oiled machine with the right systems, processes, and automation in place.
Imagine a business where taking consistent action is purposeful and attracts the clients you actually want to work with. So doing the work you love is more than just a goal—it’s your everyday reality.
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Why You’re Struggling to Stay Organized (And What to Do About It)
Feeling scattered, overwhelmed, or struggling to follow through on tasks? You’re not alone! Whether you have ADHD or just find it hard to stay on top of everything as a business owner, this episode is packed with practical strategies to help you get organized, manage your time effectively, and actually get things done.
I’m joined by Kat, a professional organizer and ADHD coach, who shares real-life systems that work for both neurodivergent and neurotypical entrepreneurs. We’ll talk about why traditional productivity advice doesn’t work for everyone, how to beat procrastination, and simple strategies to avoid decision fatigue. Plus, Kat shares how she and her husband (who has ADHD) structure their work and home life to stay on track.
In this episode, we cover:
✔️ The real reason you procrastinate (and how to fix it)
✔️ How to create systems that actually work for you
✔️ Smart time management hacks to prevent overwhelm
✔️ How "body doubling" can boost productivity
✔️ Simple ways to improve focus and follow-through
If you’ve ever wished for more focus, better organization, and less stress, this episode is for you!
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Kat is an ADHD Organizing Specialist and Coach passionate about helping neurodiverse individuals create systems that fit their unique brains. Born and raised in the Philippines, she has called Sacramento home for nearly a decade. With a deep understanding of how people and spaces impact overall health, she blends organization strategies with emotional support to empower her clients.
She is currently attending a program to become a certifed Professional Organizer in Chronic Disorganization as well as working her way into getting certified as a Neurodiversity Coach.
Committed to self-compassion, she is on a journey to transform her inner critic into her biggest cheerleader.When she’s not working, you’ll find her exploring new flavors in the kitchen or playing pickleball with her friends.
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Hello, kat. Welcome to the show. Hi, natasha, nice to see you.
Speaker 2:It's so good to have you. The first thing I wanted to start with was just kind of asking you how you got into this work with neurodivergent specialty and organizing.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So I typically tell people that the reason why I got into this is because of my husband, which is essentially true. I noticed that in our home life I was trying to do organizing the neurotypical way and we were you know, we. I thought that I wasn't communicating it enough or like it just the things were just weren't working, and my husband happens to have ADHD. So I that's when I started really like getting into it I didn't realize that there was a difference until then. So next thing, you know, I'm attending classes about ADHD, organizing, getting certifications, and just kind of fell in love with it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so this is your real lived experience and you experience this every day, so that must be really exciting to learn to communicate better with your partner too. So the first thing I wanted to ask is because this really relates to executive function and that's something that comes into play with like ADD and ADHD, but this is really something that everyone uses in some capacity. So could you tell me a little bit about what executive function is and why it's so crucial for entrepreneurs, business owners, to evaluate and know about?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so executive function is basically cognitive processes in your brain, each individual, kind of like what you're saying. We all have executive function. Think of it as like the command center of your brain and it's where, excuse me, where you can do, um, essentially where you plan, focus, attention, remember instruction, so like your working memory is there, it's where you keep track of things. Um, you also do time management, problem solving, emotional regulation and impulse control. So, as business owners, um, you asked, like why it matters in business, like why executive function is. A lot of these skills are things that entrepreneurs should have to, potentially should be strong in and it's crucial. So that's prioritizing planning, so being able to set goals, adapting and problem solving that's another executive function thing. Self-regulation so this is more of the emotional or impulse control. Staying organized is also an executive function. And completing projects so, as entrepreneurs, right, like that's pretty crucial in maintaining a good business.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all of those things, and I think everyone struggles in some capacity and it's constant process. So, as we talk about that, how for someone with like ADHD? How does that differ for them? What might be different for them?
Speaker 1:So when one has ADHD, your executive function actually is significantly impacted. The condition basically just affects the brain. The wiring is just different from a neurotypical person. So the brain's ability to regulate attention, the impulses I was talking about, emotional regulation and also the skill to organize it's not as strong compared to like a neurotypical person.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and are there specific challenges that someone with ADHD faces in business?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I would say time management is one that I tend to see with my coaching clients. When one has ADHD, there seems to be like a distorted sense of time. We're like, oh yeah, this is only take five minutes, but in reality it's like an hour right, which, and then it. That leads to procrastination or underestimating how long things take. Another one is I hate to use the word motivation, so it's, I think it's's task initiation and being able to complete tasks. So that's a struggle when one has an ADHD brain as well. Another would be impulse control. So I've seen that with clients too, where they get excited to use a planner so they buy seven planners. So that's the impulse aspect of that right and the prioritization in organization. So I know I see that with task management as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and do you have any tips for someone with ADHD, like where would they start if they're trying to overcome some of those common challenges?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so one understanding what executive function is. I would recommend the one that I use as a model is Dr Thomas Brown's model, so it has six aspects of it and identifying what resonates with you there and starting from knowing you can't really solve something without knowing what the problem is right. So like finding out what you resonate with there and then experimenting on systems. But you wanted examples for each of those.
Speaker 2:It doesn't have to be for each. I was just looking for some tips, if someone is struggling with that, to overcome some of those common problems that they were encountering.
Speaker 1:I think the first one really do is self-compassion. I've noticed with my clients is and this is can also be for neurotypical people as well is we get so down on oh, the system didn't work, or like I'm just never going to be good at time management, that you don't even really give yourself an opportunity to test out or experiment on things. So that's the first thing that I think is really important In terms of systems. Let's say, time management. Time blocking is pretty good Chunking out similar tasks, so time blocking and then matching that with stacking things that are of the same thing. So, for example, marketing as a business owner, you do it on Tuesdays. All marketing things will be happening on Tuesdays. So that's one. And if you're, let's say, a visual person, then you gravitate to like, if I see things in a calendar, I will remember that. So doing something like that where, like, you put a whiteboard or use sticky notes in your laptop right in front of you, where you don't forget things, yeah, yeah, that's definitely helpful.
Speaker 2:So we've talked a little bit about some of the practical strategies. What do you think the struggles are? Because these have overlap, like you said, right, some of these things apply to both ADHD and neurotypical, and I imagine, with all of the social media and like kind of things that were bombarded with, a lot of people are struggling with executive dysfunction, you know of just their baseline, no matter who they are, just because of the world that we live in. Would you agree with that?
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely. I think that it's important to understand that everybody has executive function and that we all can have experiences of it being difficult. So, yeah, I think I'm. Yeah, is that what you're trying, like what you're saying?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, Like because I think that a lot of us almost feel hijacked sometimes by social media. Like you said, I'm expecting to go spend five minutes on something and suddenly you've been scrolling your reels for an hour.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, right. So that's attention and ability to focus. So, and also time management, right, like you think that you're in there for like two minutes, but you've really been there for 20.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, definitely. So I know, let's see, let me look over here, so we've talked about about systems, but are there other ways to train and improve your executive function outside of systems?
Speaker 1:Yes, like I know that you can definitely rewire your brain, like the brain has neuroplasticity, so just doing something over and over again or experimenting on something can help rewire the brain. Um, but trying to think like habits is also, I guess, like it's also a system in, in a nutshell, um, routines as well. Doing something, uh, on a consistent basis is also a pretty. Doing something on a consistent basis is also a pretty good way of practicing executive function.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so routines would be like you were saying. You know, having specific days that you, you batch things on, so whether that's networking or whether that's marketing, that can be helpful for people. I do so and this is a thing as a creative like sometimes being put into a system like we resist that. How do you help people overcome that Like feeling of resistance towards like having to do it on a Tuesday?
Speaker 1:Good question Um, that might not be the system for you, I think. No, truly like. I think that one of the things that we are in my coaching client coaching with my clients is the activation part. So like we would agree on something that's like okay, you're going to test this out on Tuesday and then we talk about it next week and they don't right. So that might just not be the way to do things for you, and I think that's why it goes back to understanding what it is about the executive function part. That is a struggle, so experimenting on that is like does that make sense?
Speaker 2:Oh, it totally makes sense, and it really. What I'm hearing from this is that there's not a one size fits all when it comes to addressing this. It's really there's lots of different tools and strategies and you need to try them on and see which one fits.
Speaker 1:Yes, absolutely Like it's. It's definitely like an experimental thing until you land it. I also you mentioned social media earlier and I know there's so many tips and tricks and like this is how I do things or this is one way to hack your brain and stuff like that. I love those ones, but I also try to warn people that like just because that didn't work doesn't mean that there's something wrong with you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, that's important and I think that negative self-talk that you had talked about like everyone struggles with that and really rewiring that inner voice to be supportive, and I think um, I forgot the exact term you used but like giving yourself space to to fail and knowing that that's okay and that you can figure something out. Um, so I know you and your husband are both business owners. Are there any um like specific things that you guys love or do differently? When it comes to, um like prioritizing?
Speaker 1:tasks. Yeah, that's actually it's funny that you mentioned that. I just like, as we're talking, like I have a reel coming out about, like how we do our tasks together and how we basically like take care of our home life and our businesses together. Um, one thing that we do, kind of like what I was saying earlier, is that there are specific days where we talk about things. So he has Thursdays as his business day. So anything that he needs support from me on Thursdays he can talk about that in terms of his business, I have Wednesdays. Mondays is our home stuff, so any repairs that we need to take care of will be taken care of Mondays. So that's a pretty that works for him. He has an ADHD brain and that works for me for neurotypical brain.
Speaker 1:We used to do and time blocking is not. He doesn't do time blocking with me Like he has his own time blocking. I have my own time blocking. There's also what else do we do? I mean, we as we assign chores, there's like, uh, there's a different assignment of chores for him and there's a different assignment of chores for myself. And yeah, with business, like I, he knows my strong suit of social media and and I know his strong suit is like our finances and the taxes aspect of the business. So he does that for the both of us and I do this the social media for the both of us.
Speaker 2:Okay, so you guys are tasks sharing, which I think is an important thing, and I actually recommend this to people that I work with is, you know, if they're trying to do something more like market or they need to like, they need to ask for help, and leveraging your strong skills and then having someone else leverage theirs, it can feel like a real weight off. So, um, I'm curious, since you guys are helping with social media, which which tasks do you take off of his load for social, cause he still has to do the talking, but do you do the scheduling and things like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so basically I take on the editing aspect and also uploading the things. So he's completely not into going into the social media platforms, like he feels like it's just not his strong suit. So like I do that because I do it anyway for my own, but he does do the um I set up the camera, he has to talk on the camera, he knows how to use the mic and he knows how to basically like the system that we came up with in creating the content and it's just yeah, it's a working system Like he does that. And then I get it on Thursdays, I edit it on Thursdays and I upload it on Thursdays. I get it on Thursdays, I edit it on Thursdays and I upload it on Thursdays.
Speaker 2:Yes, and for those of you who do not have a partner to help you with this, you can always look at a virtual assistant as a way to help kind of offload some of those tasks. So remembering that, even as a solopreneur, if you could hire someone for two to three hours, that could make a huge difference in how you can show up in your business.
Speaker 1:I'm glad that you brought that up, because you were talking about systems earlier and I was blanking out, and accountability is a huge deal in terms of improving your executive function. Like we in the ADHD sphere we call that body doubling, so kind of like what Natasha is talking about, you could get a VA or you could also get like another entrepreneur that could hold you accountable in the tasks that you want to do. So that is a great way to be able to practice good executive function skills.
Speaker 2:I actually, just before we had this call today, I was on a group coworking session and they're my mutual mentors, so we will have accountability of what we're doing, help each other move past roadblocks. But then we'll actually have an hour where we're both like, even though we're in different parts of the state, sitting and working for an hour, and it's really amazing what you can get done in an hour when you know that, like, you have to report back to someone in 50 minutes and say this was the task I was working on. Here's how far I got.
Speaker 1:Yeah right, I do the same thing. I have a body double partner. She's a professional organizer based in Chicago and our agreement is we tell each other what we're going to work on and then we have her zoom on like she's doing her thing, I'm doing my thing for 90 minutes and then, when the 90 minute hits, like how well did you do, and you're right, like I don't think I would have read the things that I needed to do for my program for for a program that I'm in, had it not been a body doubling session with her like every week.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I really think it's magic. So if you listening right now, one thing to take away from this call, if you haven't done it before, is that body doubling practice. You can do it on zoom. You can do it in person at a coworking session. It doesn't have to be long, can be an hour. Mine aren't usually longer than two hours. I need, I need a break after two. So one of the things that I know I struggle with and other entrepreneurs struggle with, and especially when it comes to my own work, is procrastination. So I'd love to know, you know, when it comes to executive function, what kind of role does that play in procrastination? How can we get ahead of that? Like, what kind of? How can we systematize and beat that procrastination?
Speaker 1:Yeah, um. So procrastination is often not really you being lazy, I think it's more of an executive function challenge and I'll kind of give an example like the task initiation struggle, like you can't get started because you're either overwhelmed with the task or there's not a lot of clarity, lack of clarity within the task. Procrastination is also like time blindness, again, like you feel sometimes one. It's like the opposite, like you feel like, oh, this is going to take so long, but in reality it maybe probably will only take 15 minutes. But how to overcome that? I would say I kind of what we already talked about, using external accountability, is really good when it comes to procrastination. So accountability, partner body doubling and also one, I think, helpful tool for procrastination is actually breaking down the task even further, actually breaking down the task even further.
Speaker 1:I know the tendency I have. This tendency myself is if I were to just put marketing on, let's say Tuesday, and not be specific as to like are you taking care of your website? Are you uploading things? Are you doing that? It's so much more overwhelming that I don't even do it. So actually having a pinpoint thing, breaking down the big task into more manageable steps, is a really powerful tool to reduce procrastination, because they're just kind of setting yourself up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, totally. This is actually something I do in my business a lot because I've got kind of a project management background so like and it actually needs to be its own task right Breaking those, that project down into different tasks so you can put on your calendar if you're struggling with a project, an hour to figure out what you actually need to do. And I love to assign time estimates and these aren't always going to be accurate, but if you can start to, you know, think about the project and you can probably get kind of close of this is going to take 30 minutes or this is going to take 15 minutes, it's a lot easier to schedule that into your day and then to prepare yourself mentally for the input that you have to put in. And sometimes even the 30 minute task is too big and you can break that down even further. I find.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I yeah, a hundred percent. Um, another thing I was going to add, when it comes to feeling or procrastinating, is I do tend to notice that that is caused by black and white thinking sometimes, too, where like, oh, if I just need to do it right.
Speaker 2:You prolong the actual act, right. So overcoming that, overcoming the fear of failure, is a good step to reducing procrastination's like that kind of perfectionism too right, like it has to be a certain way, but really like done is better than eternally procrastinating on something.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And that's positive self-talk too.
Speaker 1:Right, exactly, and you know the the dopamine hit of actually doing something you're, you're, you're getting versus when you're procrastinating. You tend to just kind of like feel a little sucky because you don't, you're not doing the thing, so like there's no dopamine hit there either.
Speaker 2:I am such a list person so like when I cross something off, like I really feel that like dopamine hit. Now I do everything in like a digital tool but I've set it up so it's very much like my real list. So I get to hit done and feel like, oh, it's green. I get to put it on the other board and I know that this can be unique to the individual but do you have like recommendations or tools that you use to help people manage their day and their time?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I hear it often too that people like, don't like planners because they've tried it before and it doesn't work. But what I noticed is that there are different types of planners Like. So there's the bullet journal, where you really can go and play with anything Like. You can do anything anything there. You can do to-do lists, you can do a calendar there, um, so that's one I also personally like. I like the planners that have time um time on them because it helps me time block, so that's a. I know that other planners don't have that, so that might be an opportunity for others. Another option is also not looking at it as a time, kind of like what I was saying earlier, where, like, you are just chunking the day based off on, like, the stack of tasks that you're going to do. So that's one system to try out. I'm trying to think of more ways. If you're a visual person, kind of like what you were saying earlier like a big calendar might just be what you need versus trying to fit yourself in a Google calendar.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and do you find that like digital tools versus you know more traditional, like paper tools? Do you find one works better than the other? Is that very tailored to the individual? And then, what about people with adhd like? Do they gravitate towards one more than the other?
Speaker 1:um, I wouldn't say that it's a common thing for like yeah, so it varies from one person to another. Like I'll make myself an example. I thought that I was done with writing um on a planner, like last year. I I was like I'm not gonna buy it, it's you know like, but I used it, I use it, but I I feel like there's a part of me.
Speaker 1:So there's this thing called processing modalities and I find myself to be a verbal person, meaning if I write it down, I'll remember it. So I actually have to do that. But I also use my Google Calendar for certain things. So I guess, to answer your questions, like I use it in tandem and I do find that a lot of people do the same thing, that they together. Um, yeah, and another one that I at least I recommended with my adhd clients is gamifying it. I can't remember what the name of the apps are, but there are gamified apps there where, if you want to, let's say, stack habits, you'll be able to see it there, and because it's in the video game format where you get points and you get um level ups, like it's a good way to continue creating habits for themselves.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I just signed up for train, well, I think, which is it's like a personal trainer. But what I love about it is you get the it's in your pocket, it's on, you know, on your phone, and every day you complete it like shows a little green, and then if you have a streak, it gives you like little fire emojis. Yeah, it's definitely fun and there's a motivation to that. And I even find gamification and my digital system Monday, like literally just seeing that on like Monday or Tuesday that I've done all the tasks and they're all green. So there's gamification even within, like something that feels a little bit more standard.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, we have the same thing too. Like in our living room we have our habit trackers where you fill it in, and it's almost like a competition between him and I because, like, if, if he sees that I'm doing it, he'll more likely to do it like working out or you know anything. So we, we have those little things that we're just kind of filling it in every day.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that theme of accountability is coming up again, when we can see other people doing things.
Speaker 2:It really does motivate us in a different way. Just to kind of close out this topic too, I'm very much a written learner, like you said, when you're listening, if I'm in a meeting I don't even necessarily go back to my notes all the time, but that helps it solidify in my mind. So I think, giving permission for people to have, like, their task management in a digital planner but also use their written stuff you don't have to get rid of that just because we live in this digital age, because it's serving a different kind of purpose. Um, I know that sometimes people can suffer with a decision fatigue, um, and that can lead to burnout, and you know procrastination ties into this too. Do you have any tips for people for reducing that decision fatigue?
Speaker 1:Yeah, definitely using. Well, let me try. So I think that decision fatigue comes from also executive function stuff. That decision fatigue comes from also executive function stuff. So I would say back to time blocking dedicating focus times are going to be crucial so that, like you, you're set, you know you're, it's almost like you are. Time blocking is like a way of boundary setting. Like you use it as a boundary tool so that you don't reach that decision fatigue. Um, I would say, learning to say no is also like a very big tool to have, like a good skill to to start, so that you, you, you avoid decision fatigue.
Speaker 1:One of the things that we do in my work with my clients is creating routines, and the reason with why I'm like saying routines is because if you're doing, you know what you're doing on the regular, it really does reduce the amount of decision making you have to do. Like you know you're going to walk the dog, so you know you're going to brush your teeth, you know you're going to do this, it's your, and because you're consistent, like you don't even have to be consistent with. I understand the difficulty of being consistent when one has or it's not even just ADHD. People like neurotypical people experience that too. But knowing that there is that like committing to, like no, this has to happen because this needs to happen next, and practicing that over and over again does help the decision fatigue aspect of because, like, we have to make so many decisions on the regular. So why not try to lessen that in, like your morning routine or even your night routine, or like the things that you eat.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that's a big part in your personal life and I'm sure in your business this could be practiced to, like having a standard monthly meeting to check in on your finances and things like that that are just set. Because it definitely seems like when it comes to decisions, we have like almost like a gas tank and we have a certain amount of gas each day and when that runs out it's just kind of like we hit a wall and we're spinning around.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what else would be going back to that point? Like using your energy wisely is also a good tool to like reduce having to decision fatigue. And I say that because some people like uh, tend to feel like, oh, I'm just gonna do it when I get home, but when you get home you're already exhausted from work and like so understanding where your energy is the highest and then doing the decision making during those times is definitely like good for you where, versus like having to like, oh, I'll just decide when I get home.
Speaker 2:Like when you're actually there.
Speaker 2:So the the example there is basically like, for instance actually I'm probably a good example of this If I'm at the end of the day, like seven o'clock, and I'm trying to make a plan for tomorrow or whatever, if I'm already tired, it could take me 50 minutes and I'm just not being very productive. So I'm like, okay, I'll do it in the morning, cause I'm very alert in the morning and it takes me five seconds to do that same thing in the morning. Um, do you have any other tips for people when it comes to managing their time? I think when you just said a few minutes ago, which I'll bring back as saying no, but are there other ways that people can look at and manage that energy?
Speaker 1:Good question. I think that goes back to like just being intuitive, like it's the experimental phase is like you'll never know where your energy is until you jot it down right, like we. Just a lot of the coaching, a lot of the things that happens with coaching, is inner work, like you really just kind of like when am I energized? And then you calculate from there as to how you're going to manage it. So I guess did that answer your question. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And so you said jotting it down. Do you do a lot of journaling with your clients?
Speaker 1:Not necessarily journaling. We call it experimenting and data tracking. Okay, but that could be journaling. Yeah, experimenting and data tracking okay, but I mean that could be journaling, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, journaling is a like a version of of data tracking and it is. It is such a. It's just practicing mindfulness too, like really understanding yourself is a practice of being mindful of where you, where you put your your time in, how you spend your energy.
Speaker 2:Um, but yeah, yeah, and of course I'm you know, the marketing person and social, and I think that this same model can be a blick. You know you're experimenting with social. You're learning what works. It's a very similar thing, just just a different topic. So that's been great to learn about. Um, what's like one of the most important things you would say to someone about, like what you've learned um working with your husband and noticing the differences between you two.
Speaker 1:Um. Can you ask that question differently?
Speaker 2:Yes, so just you know, living with someone who functions a little bit differently, like is there a message of, like what you've learned that you would want other people to know about, like other struggling with executive dysfunction or ADHD that they might not otherwise know?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it starts with self-compassion towards yourself and also being compassionate towards the person that you are living with.
Speaker 1:I think that a lot of the things that we talked about about executive function they are skills that you need to have on a regular basis, so I can see that being a frustrating thing when one can't function the way that the other person wants to function. So, yeah, really beginning with that person wants to function. So, yeah, really beginning with that. Um, what, what helped with us is really collaborating as to what that system looks like and not imposing why you. Just because time blocking worked for me doesn't necessarily mean that it would work for the person that you live with or the one that you're working with, and this goes with business as well. When you're, when you have uh employees right, like, so being, uh, being more in tune with that, that like, like people really do take a process information differently, and knowing that, like being open to understanding that and understanding their learning process and then collaborating as to like what that looks like is, I think, is, honestly, the probably one of the most powerful tools that I use in coaching and also organizing.
Speaker 2:I think that's such a great takeaway. I did a it was like 16 personalities or something like a personality test once and I was like 20, something early twenties, and I just had this. Aha, that, oh my gosh. I think differently than a lot of other people, but I was projecting that, like everyone else must kind of function in the world in the same way I did, and I don't think I had that compassion for people or didn't expect them to act differently, because I'm like well, these are the same like values and ways that you think, and that's just not the case. Um, are there any like? Do you use any personality tools or anything for that? Or just more like experimentation?
Speaker 1:Yeah, just experimentation. Um, I'm actually I should look into those personality person. I've seen them but I've never really like looked into them.
Speaker 2:I like them for the workplace. When you're talking about, you know, working with employees, some of it can show you like how people like to receive information or things like that, and if we can make those realizations earlier than just observing, we can probably help each other a little bit more. That's why I like the tools.
Speaker 1:So okay, yeah, I think I guess this is a personality one, then. So the thing that I was talking about is called processing modalities, and so essentially that there's two continuums, so the strength continuum and the sensitivity continuum, and there's like nine modalities, like how one can take information, and five of those is like based off on our senses, and then the four is verbal, um, intuitive, cognitive, and I can't remember. Uh, I can't remember the, the fourth one, but basically the story on.
Speaker 1:There those are in the sensory. So like, yeah, there's um and I can't remember the, the, the anyway, um, that modality, like understanding how a person accepts or understands or takes in information, is so honestly, like, it's so interesting to me because, like, everybody does different things and it's such a helpful way to going back to what we're all talking. What we're talking about now is it helps with how you're going to respond with, like, the things that you want to practice with the executive function skills, like understanding that, like, oh, maybe I'm more of a um, an auditory, like, if you set an alarm, I, I respond to that better versus a blaring, you know, just red light in front of you. You know what I mean. Like I, those are two different things.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that reminds me of the love languages too. So just learning just the people in our lives, how, how we can give and receive, so that's a great takeaway. I know that you help people with organizations. You want to talk a little bit about the services you offer and where people can find you online.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I am badass home life in everywhere. So that's badass home life on Instagram, badass home lifecom, badass home life on Facebook and the services that I offer. So I do in-home organizing, so I pretty much help people either declare or organize their spaces. That is more on the Sacramento County only, but I do ADHD coaching, where we talk about just about everything that one can have trouble with. So it's all the things that we talked about in executive function, like time management, task management, the ability to manage priorities, task initiation, like all those things like are things that we can coach through um and that I offer Um and sometimes, if, if you follow me on Instagram or on Facebook, I do workshops or I release courses.
Speaker 2:Yeah and um, just so we can know who's a good fit for you. What type of people do you work with? Do you work with business owners, or is that more like on a personal level of management?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I definitely work with business owners, but I don't necessarily give business advice, but I do more on the home life aspect of being able to balance your personal life and the business life that you, um, you're trying to achieve.
Speaker 2:Awesome, that's great. I'm sure a lot of people can relate to some of the things that we talked about today and need some help in those areas. And then, as we wrap up our episode today, I'd love to end with the question just and this is general looking back what advice would you give your younger self?
Speaker 1:Looking back, what advice would you give your younger self? And that would be to be braver, to try to try harder and like, yeah, to just try harder and not feel because I feel like I had black and white thinking when I was younger. So I wish I didn't have black and white thinking because I feel like there's so much growth in not doing that and to stay present like things are, things were fun and things are going to still be fun when you're older.
Speaker 2:I love that. So be mindful, be brave. Thank you so much for coming on and sharing. I know this is something that a lot of people are struggling with, so I think they got some tips and a little bit more insight and, hopefully, compassion for themselves and for others. Thanks, natasha.
Speaker 1:This is fun.
Speaker 2:All right, bye.
