Solo - The Contrarian Mindset Skill 7: Accepting Imperfections as Natural

"Your imperfections are not just natural—they’re extraordinary. Embrace them as a testament to your resilience and growth."

In this episode of BiteSize Fridays, Jason dives into the third skill in the "Mastering Perspective" cluster of the Contrarian Mindset series: Accepting Imperfection as Natural. Drawing inspiration from Japanese philosophy, personal stories, and practical insights, this episode unpacks how embracing imperfections strengthens resilience and fosters authentic connections.

Jason explores the idea that imperfections aren't flaws to fix but gifts to cherish, offering lessons and a chance to grow. Through examples like the Japanese art of Kintsugi, anecdotes about overcoming fears, and reframing mistakes, Jason inspires listeners to see the beauty in imperfection and adopt a more liberating mindset.

Key Takeaways:

1. Reframe Imperfections as Strengths:
   • Imperfections are not weaknesses but markers of growth, resilience, and individuality.
   • Drawing from Kintsugi and Wabi-Sabi philosophy, embrace cracks and flaws as part of your unique story.
2. The Courage to Be Vulnerable:
   • Vulnerability is a strength, not a weakness. Sharing your struggles or asking for help deepens connections and builds trust.
   • As Brene Brown states, vulnerability means showing up as your authentic self, even without control over the outcome.
3. Practice "Good Enough" Thinking:
   • Striving for perfection can be paralyzing. Instead, focus on effort and process over outcomes.
   • Sometimes delivering 80% is not just sufficient but liberating.
4. Celebrate Mistakes as Learning Opportunities:
   • Mistakes are not failures but stepping stones to wisdom and growth.
   • Reflect on what you learned from each challenge to build a stronger sense of resilience.
5. Embrace Self-Compassion:
   • Treat yourself with the same kindness and understanding you would offer a friend.
   • Acknowledge small wins and affirm your worth, even in moments of struggle.

Additional Resources:
Interested in building a contrarian mindset for resilience, fortitude, and psychological strength? Check out the other episodes in this series linked in the show notes, and subscribe to It’s an Inside Job for more insights on resilience, well-being, and personal growth.

Part 1 – Discover the Power of The Contrarian Mindset: A New Approach to Rewiring Your Brain for Resilience and Growth

Part 2 – Discover the Power of The Contrarian Mindset: A New Approach to Rewiring Your Brain for Resilience and Growth

Chapters

• 0:16 Welcome to It's an Inside Job
• 0:34 Building the Contrarian Mindset
• 13:14 Skills for Accepting Imperfection
• 17:01 Celebrating Mistakes
• 20:04 Kintsugi Thinking
• 26:10 Setting Flawed Goals
• 27:41 Practicing Self-Compassion
• 30:41 The Good Enough Mindset
• 33:06 Finding Freedom in Imperfection

Transcript

[0:00] Music.

[0:08] Well, welcome to It's an Inside Job bite-sized Fridays, your weekly dose of

[0:13] resilience, optimism, and well-being to get you ready for the weekend. Now, each week, I'll bring you insightful tips and uplifting stories to help you navigate life's challenges and embrace a more positive mindset. And so with that said, let's slip into the stream.

[0:27] Music.

[0:34] Welcome back to the series on building the contrarian mindset now the contrarian mindset is about strengthening our resilience our tenacity our fortitude our psychological strength our ability to confront and meet uncertainty and the unknown especially when it shows up on our doorstep uninvited. And for those new to this series, what is a contrarian mindset? Well, contrarian thinking is not about being disagreeable or purposely going against the grain for the sake of it. It's about challenging the status quo of our minds. It's about questioning the usual ways you respond to life's challenges and exploring new, often unconventional paths to resilience and success. So these series of episodes invites you to think like a contrarian, not to complicate your life but to simplify it by cutting through the noise of common fears, dysfunctional thinking and unhelpful mindsets. So in total there are 12 skills to the contrarian mindsets and I have clustered them under three headings. So the first cluster of four skills is mastering self, the next one is mastering perspective and finally it's mastering resilience. And so today we are going to explore the third skill under the cluster mastering perspective and that skill is accepting in perfection as natural.

[1:58] What if imperfection wasn't something to fix but a gift waiting to be unwrapped? Imagine the jagged edges of a mountain, the uneven petals of a flower, or the cracks in a well-loved coffee mug. Each perfection, a unique story of resilience, individuality, and growth. Now these imperfections, far from being flaws, are the very essence of beauty in our lives. The cracks, the flaws, and the rough edges we carry don't diminish us. They make us whole, yet we're often taught to see imperfection as a problem, something to hide or something to overcome. Now, this episode asks us to challenge that belief. Now, while we've explored in earlier skills, for example, recalibrating unrealistic standards, we're going to go deeper. We're going to embrace imperfection as an essential part of our identity. So I want to shift from fixing flaws to uncovering their hidden strengths, celebrating their uniqueness of our so-called imperfections.

[3:00] Now, there's a certain level of courage needed to embrace our flaws. Perfectionism, well, that can feel like a protective shield, but in reality, it's a wall. One that keeps us from fully connecting with others and ourselves. Consider how perfectionism works. It demands that we hide our mistakes, present a polished exterior, and never show our vulnerability. But then ask yourself, are your closest relationships based on perfection? Or are they strengthened by shared struggles and mutual understanding?

[3:35] For example, take the story of a colleague overwhelmed by a challenging project. If they muster the courage to say, I need help, do you think less of them? Or do you feel a deeper connection? Are you inspired by their honesty, their vulnerability, and their willingness to ask for support? Now imagine applying that same principle to your own life. By embracing imperfection, you allow others to see the real you. This vulnerability doesn't weaken your relationships. It deepens them. When you show up as your authentic, real self, flaws and all, Well, you open the door to trust, collaboration, and genuine connection. There's something to be said about reframing imperfections as strengths. Our culture, at least the Western culture, well, we often equate imperfections with inadequacy. But the art of reframing teaches us to see that as markers of growth and individuality. Imperfections are not signs of weakness, but unique strengths that add depth and character to our stories.

[4:43] Kintsugi, meaning golden joinery, is a traditional Japanese art of repairing broken pottery by mending its cracks with lacquer mixed with powdered gold, silver, or platinum. Now, instead of hiding the damage, Kintsugi emphasizes and celebrates the imperfections, turning them into a beautiful part of the object's history. Rooted in the philosophy of wabasabi, it finds beauty in imperfection and impermanence, serving as a reminder that brokenness can lead to transformation and strength. In Kintsugi, the cracks in a bowl or plate are not concealed, they are accentuated. The delicate gold filling transforms the fractures into a distinctive design, celebrating the object's imperfections as a signature to its history and its resilience.

[5:32] A once broken piece, well, it gains greater value, not by ignoring its flaws, but by embracing as part of its unique history. So let's talk about a more personal example. Now imagine a young man who grew up with a pronounced stutter. For years, well, he avoided speaking in public, feeling defined by his flaw or his so-called flaw. Now over time, with practice and perseverance, he found his voice not flawless, but one that carried authenticity, strength, and empathy. His stutter, once a source of shame, well, it became a hallmark. It became a signature of his resilience. Like the cracks in the Kintsugi bowl, it added depth and character to his story. It allowed him to connect with others on a profoundly human level. Now consider J.K. Rowling's story. Before her Harry Potter series, you know, before it became a global phenomenon, she faced the crushing weight of unemployment, single parenthood, and repeated rejection from publishers.

[6:41] You know, it would have been easy for her to see these challenges as evidence of failure. Instead, she used them as fuels for her creativity. Her struggles, well, they shaped her magical world. It imbued it with themes of hope, of resilience, and of overcoming adversity. Her imperfections didn't hold her back. What they actually did was propel her forwards. Now, I just want to take a moment, circle back to the Japanese philosophy of wabasabi. I personally think it offers a brilliant lens in which we can view imperfections. You know, wabasabi, it celebrates the beauty of imperfection, of impermanence, of incompleteness. I want you to imagine an old wooden table. You know, maybe it's paint chipped it. It's got cuts and it's got dents in it and its edges are worn.

[7:39] Now, if we see it for the first time, we might think it appears flawed. But to those people who own that table and who understand wabasabi, well, it tells a different story. It tells a story of time. It tells a story of use and of care, of maybe the family gatherings around high seasons, around birthdays, around anniversaries, where the passage of time speaks to that family celebration of those particular moments that stood out, small or large. You know, each mark in that table, well, it's a signature to that family's history. It makes it irreplaceable. I mean, if they try to sell it, they'd probably just get a few dollars for it.

[8:28] But for them, it's something that speaks to their history, that speaks to all the memories, that in its imperfections, in those dents and those cracks and those worn edges, it is something that is a testament to that family's history and celebration. I mean, for myself, way back in the day when I started my company, MindTalk, I didn't have a lot of money. So I went out to celebrate the founding of my company and I bought myself a Seiko watch and it was an Arctura Kinetic, meaning it was self-winding.

[9:04] Now, back in the day, for me, that was a big purchase. But for me, that watch has it has scratches and it has history. It's been on my wrist through the founding of my company, you know, getting married to my brilliant wife. You know, the birth of my three kids, through all the struggles and the strains and the successes and achievement I've had in life. I mean, to anyone else, this watch is just worth a few thousand kroner. You know, it's not a few dollars, right? It's not worth that much. But to me, it is a history. It is something that is far from perfect with all its dents and scratches. But it's something that I wear on my wrist. And it is a daily reminder of how far I have come. And it is. It is far from perfect. But for me, it's something that I embrace when it comes to the philosophy of wabasabi. Now, I want you to think about how this perspective could apply to your own life. What if the scars left by a painful breakup weren't just reminders of loss, but also proof of your capacity to love deeply.

[10:20] What if your work mistakes weren't failures but just stepping stones to a greater wisdom and skill? What happens if losing that job because of cutbacks, because of layoffs or whatever, was a signal for you to move on, that it wasn't a failure, that it wasn't a shot at your identity, but was the push you needed to take the next step? Like Kintsugi, the bowl, or the weathered table, or my watch, or whatever else you can think of, your imperfections make you unique, resilient, and extraordinary. So when we move beyond perfectionism, then we can start talking about the power of vulnerability.

[11:08] You know, perfectionism isn't just about high standards. It's about fear. It's the fear of judgment, rejection, and failure. We don't have to take this typical path that our brains want to lead us down. We can choose to take the contrarian path. We can choose to adopt the contrarian mindset. And that path is of courage and empowerment. And that is vulnerability. Because vulnerability is not a weakness, but a strength that allows us to show up and be seen. even when we have no control over the outcome. Brene Brown, she's an expert on vulnerability. She describes it as having the courage to show up and be seen when we have no control over the outcome.

[11:57] Vulnerability, well, it requires letting go of perfection and allowing ourselves to be real, to be authentic, to be ourselves. Now consider for a moment a leader who tells their team, I don't have all the answers, but I trust we can find them together. Now, this admission doesn't undermine their authority. What it actually does is it strengthens it. It fosters trust and collaboration. The team members see that person as a human, human with their flaws, that they don't know everything. Vulnerability also applies to personal relationship. A person or a parent who admits, you know what? I don't always get it right but I'm trying my best what that does it teaches their children that making mistakes is part of learning being vulnerable doesn't make you weak, it makes you relatable it makes you authentic you know what it does it creates a space for others to connect with you to relate with you not as a perfect persona.

[13:03] Music.

[13:14] The contrarian skill of accepting perfection, well, it's a path that requires conscious effort, practice, and reflection. Now, what I'd like to do, I want to share some skills with you as to how to apply this cognitive skill to help you adopt the contrarian mindset. So, the first is to lean into vulnerability.

[13:36] Now, vulnerability, often seen as weakness, is actually quite an incredible strength. When you admit your struggles or you ask for help, what you do is you create a connection, a genuine connection and collaboration space. You know, you want to start small and work your way up, meaning start with some low-hanging fruit. For example, you know, at work, if you're stuck on a task, say to a colleague, look, I've been struggling with this and I could use your perspective. Can we knock our heads together to find something?

[14:11] You know by sharing your uncertainty you demonstrate a huge skill which I highly admire and that's humility and you invite others to contribute and what that does it strengthens the trust and the collaboration in the process in the relationship now another example let's say in a personal relationship you can practice vulnerability by sharing a fear or a concern, For instance, I'm feeling overwhelmed with everything going on. I need someone to listen. Now, I want you to know how being open can make you feel lighter and more connected. In my case, I fell into the overused trope of, you know, I'm a man, I'm a guy, I got to deal with this by myself. You know, the trials and tribulations that I'm going through, this bad news, well, it's something I got to handle.

[15:07] You know, yes, I was brought up in that old school manner, in that old school mindset. And in some cases, it has fortified me and strengthened me. But I need to understand that I can't always apply the same mindset across the spectrum.

[15:26] And in the case of when you get serious news, in the case of the serious news I got, I found that by leaning into others, by sharing my woes, sharing the weight and the gravitas of the news that I was carrying, it didn't change the situation. But what it did change was my perspective of the situation. By sharing the news with those that are close, that are part of my inner circle, it lightened my load. It allowed me to gain a constructive perspective, that fighting, you know, to hold the line, to fight the good fight, and I moved forward. And again, this applies to me and is what has worked for me. All right, so how can we put this to practice? Well, step one, I want you to identify a situation where you feel tempted to hide your imperfections. Step two, I want you to choose a trusted person, and it has to be a trusted person. And I want you to share your thoughts or to actually ask for help. Keep it simple. Keep it honest.

[16:40] And third, third step, I want you to reflect afterwards. I want you to ask yourself, did this openness strengthen the relationship? How did it feel for me to be vulnerable? Now, the answers may not just come in the sense of, here's the answer.

[16:59] Maybe you need to take some time to process. All right, let's talk about a second skill, and that's celebrating mistakes. You know, mistakes often carry a negative stigma, but are invaluable in learning and growth, in that growth mindset that we've spoken about before by Carol Dweck. So instead of dwelling on what went wrong, what we want to focus is on the experience. What did the experience teach you about yourself? Let's take an example. Let's say you miss an important deadline at work. Now, initially, you might feel ashamed or frustrated. But what you want to do here is be a little more self-aware. Instead, step back and ask yourself, what can I do differently next time? How can I improve my time management or my self-management skills or my communication?

[17:52] Now, it may be hard to realize what you need to improve, but that's how we strengthen ourselves. We need to acknowledge the lesson and move forward. Well, here's another example. Let's say perhaps you overcooked dinner for your guests, you know? So instead of apologizing repeatedly, turn it into a joke. You know, for example, I've just invented crispy lasagna, or I'm the first person to burn a salad. You know, that will lighten your mood. It'll remind yourself that your imperfections, well, they can be memorable. They can be funny moments. They can be learning moments. We don't always have to take ourselves so seriously. Sometimes we can find the lightness in the moment. So how can we celebrate mistakes? How can we put this to practice? Well, maybe it's about journaling. Maybe it's about writing some thoughts down on a piece of paper. You know, write down a mistake or that imperfection and ask yourself, what did it teach me?

[19:01] You know, what you want to include is both the lesson and any positive outcomes. Let's say, for example, you forgot to prep for a presentation. So what you do is write that down. I forgot to prep. What did you learn from it? Well, I learned to improvise and I realized I knew the material better than I thought. Now imagine over a week or a month or six months, you do this with the imperfections or these mistakes that you make that pop up into your professional working life. But you record them, you keep them. Because that allows you to revisit your entries. And if you can revisit them regularly, they will serve as reminders to yourself how mistakes have contributed to your growth. Because when you look over your shoulder, you're going to see those mess up, those mistakes, those imperfections, those flaws. And you're going to see how you've grown from them. And that will be a solid, solid step towards adopting a contrarian mindset. Okay, so what's another skill?

[20:05] Well, let's come back to the Japanese philosophy. We can embrace Kintsugi thinking.

[20:10] Now, that philosophy, it encourages us to see our challenges and flaws as golden threads in our narrative, in our history, in our story. It's about honoring those cracks in your life and recognizing their role in shaping who you are. So let's take another example. So imagine you're going through a difficult breakup. You know, I think we've all been there. So instead of viewing it as a failure, consider how it's helped you clarify what you value in a relationship. The crack, that quote crack it left behind, it may have opened up a path to a deeper self-awareness and future connections.

[20:52] Yes, it's not going to be easy to look at a difficult breakup. I'm not saying that. But we can learn so much about ourselves, about our strengths, and how we can make improvements in the next relationship. Let's take another example. You know, perhaps you've struggled with public speaking. Welcome to the human race, by the way. And you've experienced embarrassing moments. You know over time these struggles could push you to prepare more thoroughly and develop a calm confident presence it'll help you transform a perceived flaw into a strength the normal thing that our brain wants to do is run away and say i'm never presenting again there's no way i'm doing that but the contrarian mindset that's someone who who giddy up you know they understand And they embrace the embarrassment. They embrace those awkward and uncomfortable feelings of messing up on a presentation or a speech or a lecture. But they don't take it as a mortal blow. They ask themselves, and it's hard, how can I improve my game?

[22:05] So how can we put Kintsugi philosophy to practice? Step one, reflect on three major challenges or setbacks in your life. And for each one of those, I want you to write down what you gained from them by having that experience and what you learned from that experience. So for example, a common challenge that many of us will face at some point in our lives is losing a job. You lose a job. Okay, that sucks, but what's the lesson? Well, you learn to redefine your career path and maybe you discovered a truer deeper passion for example what's a flaw well the fear of rejection what's the lesson you can learn from that well you learn to build resilience by hearing no and finding creative solutions.

[23:00] What you want to do is collect these, display these at a list where you can see them often because they serve as a reminder about your cracks, about your flaws, like the porcelain or the table or my watch or whatever is personal to you that may not have any significant financial value. But for you, that heirloom, that thing that you carry in your pocket that is in your home or in your drawer, it's priceless. But those cracks in you, those flaws in you, those imperfections that are you, are what makes you valuable, that makes you unique.

[23:42] Here's something. Here's another skill. Set flawed goals. You know, perfectionism can paralyze us. It can keep us from trying new things or pursuing goals out of fear of failure. Flawed goals well they allow room for error and focus on the process rather than the bloody outcome all the time we are so driven by outcome the contrarian mindset it encourages us and it's what i've learned is to focus on the effort focus on the actions irregardless if you succeed or you trip up or whatever we all do it again welcome to the human race okay let's look at a couple examples, So like the first example, instead of aiming to cook a perfect three-course meal, set a goal to try a new recipe, even if it turns out messy.

[24:34] By experimenting and enjoying the process, it is much more valuable than trying to achieve perfectionism. Let's say you have this passion, you want to start writing. You've always wanted to write, maybe a book or an article or a white paper, whatever, a poem. Well, start with a goal of writing one imperfect page each day. Don't worry about grammar or style. Just focus on putting your thoughts, your emotions, your words on a page. And so how can we practice these, you know, looking at some of these examples? Well, step one, choose an activity or goal you've avoided due to fear of failure. Write something down. Now, step two, reframe that goal to focus on the effort of exploration, of discovery, rather than the flawless outcome. Okay, for example, what's my goal? I want to be a perfect painter. What's the flawed goal? Well, that's what we want to focus on is the flawed goal, not the original goal. I will paint one canvas for fun, even if it's messy. I want you to celebrate the completion of the task irregardless of the result. Who cares?

[25:53] Just the fact that you put paint and brush to canvas, that's an amazing thing. That is a flawed goal. That's a great goal because it's not going to be perfect. I want you to reflect on what you enjoyed or learned in the process.

[26:06] Back in 2016, I wanted to start drawing or sketching. I could do a stick, man. I mean, that was the level of my skill. And so I bought myself, and I just started. I just started sketching. I didn't put it out on Instagram or anything. But you know what? After a while, I pushed myself. I pushed myself to stick it on Instagram, irregardless of how flawed or how basic or how childish my skills were. But over time, I filled moleskin after moleskin after moleskin of that. And if I didn't adopt it, if I didn't adopt the contrarian mindset, I would have never continued sketching. I would have never put my neck out there in Instagram, on Instagram, sorry, but I did. And I am so thankful I did all those years ago. Trust me, I'm far from a perfect sketcher and that's not the point. I'm a flawed sketcher and I embrace that. But through that sketching, it's the process. It centers me.

[27:20] It allows me to be present, to see the space and the negative space, to be present in the moments and to see the small details.

[27:32] That I really appreciate. It puts me in a peace of mind. But anyways, enough about me. So that's setting flawed goals.

[27:41] Okay, what's another practice? Well, the practice of self-compassion in action. You know, self-compassion is the antidote to perfectionism. Self-compassion means you treat yourself with the same kindness you would offer a friend, offer a child, your significant other. You know, so many of us are so quick to criticize ourselves for our flaws, but are slow to recognize our strengths. You know, for example, you might think, I'm so bad at this, I'll never get it bloody right. But I want you to pause and reframe. Ask yourself instead, what would I say to a friend who felt this way? More than likely, you're going to offer encouragement and not criticism. I want you to try to flip that and try doing it the same for yourself. Another example, maybe you start your day with a positive affirmation. You look in the mirror and say something along the lines of, you know what, I am enough as I am. Or, I'm proud of my effort yesterday. You know, when you do this, when you talk to yourself in the mirror, it may feel awkward at first. But you know what happens? this repetition helps you internalize the message.

[28:58] So how can we put this practice? Well, I want you to think each evening. I want you to reflect on one thing you did well that day. Small, big, inconsequential, consequential, it doesn't matter. I want you to write it down no matter how small, how inconsequential. It may be, for example, I stayed calm during a tough meeting. Or, you know what, I made time for a walk in my crazy, busy day. When you notice your self-critical thoughts and you pause and ask is this how i talk to someone i love i respect that i trust replace the criticism with kindness with curiosity, i want you to create a self-compassion ritual you know like placing a hand on your heart or taking three deep breaths when you feel overwhelmed i want you to remind yourself you know what it's okay to struggle it's human to struggle i'm doing my best with what i have i am doing my best with the cards that have been dealt with me by life.

[30:07] By the moment by the situation by the circumstance i find myself in right now by applying these strategies you're going to gradually build a mindset that contrarian mindset that welcomes imperfection as a natural and a necessary part of life. You know, these steps are not about achieving flawlessness, but about finding freedom in this crazy, messy, convoluted, complex process of being human.

[30:42] Now, the last skill I want to talk about is the liberating mindset of it's good enough. You know, the idea of good enough, well, that does, it challenges our belief that perfection is necessary. A meal doesn't have to be gourmet to nourish, and that conversation doesn't need to be flawless to connect to someone. I want you to think about your daily life. Are the tasks where you're striving for perfection, do they drain you of energy? And if so could good enough philosophy free you from the crazy focus on what matters most, a portion of my client base are young professionals coming in the game and they may become managers or leaders or head of projects and they're thinking i need to score win and I need to score early. I need to do this on my own. I need to know everything on my own. I need to deliver 100% quality.

[31:47] I think that's a great work ethic if it serves for you. But when time hits us, when the amount of work exceeds the amount of hours in a day or the amount of days in a week, and we are under crunch and we need to make hard calls, we need to make tough decisions, sometimes 100% is just impossible to achieve. And most people are not going to even know what 100% looks like. It's just something fixated in our head. And this is not just a young man or young girl's, a young woman's mindset. This can be any one of us. But I tend to see it a lot in younger professionals. But my point is, sometimes 80% is good enough. And if we can accept that, and it's still delivering quality to our colleagues, to the customer, to the client, and they're satisfied, maybe 80% is good enough. And when I do have the luxury of time, then I can jack it up to 100%. But sometimes I'm going to have to make trade-offs. Sometimes good enough philosophy, that's when it's going to keep us sane from hitting the wall, from burning out. And to make that leap, well, that's going to be bespoke to each one of us.

[33:06] You know, finding freedom in imperfection.

[33:11] Imperfection isn't a flaw to overcome. It's the foundation of who you are It is the foundation of your story Like the Kintsugi bowl Your cracks and your seams are golden threads that make you unique.

[33:32] Your imperfections, your flaws, they don't reduce your worth. They enhance it. You know, starting today, starting after listening to this episode, I want you to embrace your flaws. I want you to celebrate your quirks and let your cracks kind of shine through. Because that's what human beings are about. We're not perfect. And if anyone tells you that, well, they're kidding themselves and they're kidding you. You know, the most authentic, true version of yourself isn't the polished one. Trust me on this. Trust me on this. And if you don't, figure it out yourself.

[34:14] It's the real one with all its rough edges and golden seams. It's that person who shows up. It's going through the gauntlet. It's going through the school of hard knocks. It's messing up, effing up, falling down. But getting up, that's who you truly are because it's the complexities and the challenges and the changes and all the mistakes you've made in life as well as the successes that define who you are. There is no true sense, or at least I haven't discovered what perfectionism is. Perfectionism is just that. It's rooted in fear. It's rooted in judgment. It's rooted in rejection. And that's not the contrarian mindset. Far from it. Because after all, imperfection isn't just natural.

[35:07] Music. If you're curious to know how to build a contrarian mindset for greater resilience, fortitude, tenacity, psychological strength, and a sense of well-being, where you'll find links to the other episodes in the series in the show notes. So make sure you hit that subscribe button. And I'll be back next week with my long-form conversational episodes on Monday and the latest Bite Sites episode on Friday. And have yourself a relaxing and rejuvenating weekend.

[35:10] It's actually extraordinary.

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