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The Contrarian Mindset: Breaking Free from Perfectionism.
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Perfectionism often hides behind ambition, high standards, and pride in our work. But left unchecked, it can drain our energy, paralyze progress, and chip away at our confidence. In this episode, I share Hunter’s story—a software engineer who tied his self-worth to flawless outcomes until a moment of failure forced him to rethink everything.
We walk through the transformation he made by adopting a contrarian mindset—learning to value progress over perfection, creativity over control, and flexibility over rigidity.
In this episode, I cover contrarian strategies that helped Hunter shift his thinking:
- Focus on progress, not perfection
- Challenge unrealistic standards
- Embrace obstacles as opportunities
- Accept imperfection as natural
- Practice self-worth independent of outcomes
- Cultivate equanimity in the face of pressure and uncertainty
Hunter’s story is a reminder that resilience isn’t about perfection—it’s about adapting, learning, and growing through the messiness of real life.
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Interested in building a contrarian mindset for resilience, fortitude, and psychological strength? Check out the other episodes in this series linked in the show notes, and subscribe to It’s an Inside Job for more insights on resilience, well-being, and personal growth.
Part 1 – Discover the Power of The Contrarian Mindset: A New Approach to Rewiring Your Brain for Resilience and Growth
Part 2 – Discover the Power of The Contrarian Mindset: A New Approach to Rewiring Your Brain for Resilience and Growth
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[0:08] Well, welcome to It's an Inside Job Bite Size Fridays, your weekly dose of resilience,
[0:13] optimism, and well-being to get you ready for the weekend. Now, each week, I'll bring you insightful tips and uplifting stories to help you navigate life's challenges and embrace a more positive mindset. And so with that said, let's slip into the stream.
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[0:35] In our last series, we explored the 12 skills of the contrarian mindset. Skills that challenge conventional thinking and help us build true resilience. But resilience isn't just about what we cultivate. It's about what we confront. That's what this series is all about. Over the next 15 Bite Size Friday episodes, we'll take a hard look at the fears and unhelpful mindsets that hold us back. The ones we all face but rarely talk about. For example, the fear of failure, the fear of vulnerability, fear of change or uncertainty, the fear of conflict, the imposter syndrome, or the weight of perfectionism. These fears don't just slow us down, they quietly shape our decisions, limit our potential, and keep us stuck in patterns that no longer serve us. Most self-help advice teaches you how to work around these fears. This series challenges you to face them head on. Because if we want real growth, deep, lasting change, we can't afford to ignore what makes us uncomfortable. Contrarian thinking isn't about being difficult for the sake of it. It's about questioning default reactions, breaking free from limiting beliefs, and seeing challenges from an angle most people overlook.
[1:49] So let's cut through the noise, break the patterns, and reshape the way we think, one fear at a time. One unhelpful mindset at a time.
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[2:10] This week we're going to attack that ubiquitous mindset, the perfectionist mindset. You know, Leonard Cohen once said, forget your perfect offering. There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in. Now, the contrarian mindset to the perfectionist mindset is this. Embracing good enough and valuing progress over perfection. Understanding that imperfection is human and allows for creativity and flexibility.
[2:38] Now, again, to hit this home, I'm going to share with you a client story. Again, as usual, I've changed the name and the industry of that client. Hunter was an established software engineer known for his pursuit of perfection. In the tech industry, he was respected for his commitment to producing flawless code and his ability to meet the highest standards. However, this drive for perfection was not just a professional trait. It was a core part of his identity.
[3:07] He believed that anything less than perfect was unacceptable, and this belief shaped both his work and his personal life. Hunter's perfectionism became particularly intense during a major project, a groundbreaking software application that promised to be a game changer. As the project's lead, Hunter took on the responsibility of ensuring every detail was impeccable. He spent countless hours refining algorithms, testing user interfaces, and eliminating potential bugs. His dedication, while admirable, quickly turned into an obsession. He began sacrificing sleep, personal time, and even his health in the pursuit of a flawless final product. As the launch date neared, Hunter's stress levels soared. He became increasingly critical of his work, second-guessing every decision and fearing that any small mistake could lead to failure. His perfectionism, once a source of pride, now was a source of constant anxiety. When a minor bug surfaced just before the launch, a bug that temporarily disrupted the software's functionality, Hunter's confidence tanked. It was shattered. Despite his exhaustive efforts, he couldn't prevent this glitch, and it shook him deeply.
[4:25] This incident marked the turning point for Hunter. He realized that the pursuit of perfection was unsustainable and detrimental. His unyielding standards were leading to unrealistic expectations, self-criticism, and an overwhelming fear of failure. Moreover, he began to see his perfection in was stifling creativity and innovation, two qualities essential in the fast-paced world of software development.
[4:55] During our coaching sessions, Hunter acknowledged the toll his mindset was taking on him and resolved to change. He started to embrace the idea that progress, not perfection, is the true measure of resilience and success. He began to see imperfections not as failures, but as opportunities for growth and learning. This shift in perspective allowed him to explore new ideas and approaches with greater flexibility and less fear of making mistakes. As Hunter began to let go of his perfectionist tendency, he noticed positive changes not only in his work but also in his personal life. He began to value collaboration and feedback, recognizing that diverse perspectives could lead to better solutions and innovation. He became more open to experimentation, understanding that innovation often requires taking risks and accepting that not everything will be perfect from the start. Hunter's colleagues noticed this transformation. The once tense atmosphere in his team began to shift towards a more dynamic and creative environment. His willingness to embrace imperfection inspired his team to take more initiative, and to explore new ideas without the fear of harsh criticism.
[6:09] This change extended beyond the workplace. The sleepless nights and self-imposed pressures gave way to a more balanced approach to life. Hunter learned to celebrate achievements, no matter how small.
[6:22] And to acknowledge that continuous improvement was more important than attaining perfection. Hunter's story is a reminder of the importance of embracing progress over perfection. You know, his story illustrates that true resilience comes from adaptability, learning from experiences, and being open to change. By shifting his focus from unattainable perfection to meaningful progress, well, Hunter not only enhanced his work, but also found greater fulfillment and peace in his personal life. So now I'd like to share the contrarian skills that Hunter used to make this evolution in his mindset. The first one is focus on progress, not perfection. Hunter's road required a fundamental shift in mindset. By focusing on progress rather than perfection, well, he learned to value small, incremental improvements and to see mistakes as part of the learning process rather than as failures. Challenge unrealistic standards. Hunter's perfectionism was rooted in unrealistic standards he had set for himself. By challenging these standards, well, he was able to recognize that striving for perfection was neither sustainable nor necessary for success. This allowed him to set more achievable goals and to reduce self-criticism. Embrace obstacles as opportunities.
[7:46] The bug that disrupted the software's functionality could have been seen as a major setback, but Hunter chose to view it as an opportunity to learn and grow. This contrarian play, well, it helped him reframe challenges as valuable experiences that contribute to innovation and development. It was all about learning. Accept imperfection is natural. Hunter had to come to terms with the fact that imperfection is a natural part of any creative process. This acceptance allowed him to move forward with projects more confidently, knowing that imperfections do not diminish the value of his work or of his efforts.
[8:26] Practice self-worth. Hunter's self-worth was initially tied to his ability to produce perfect, flawless work. By practicing self-worth, he began to understand that his value was not dependent on achieving flawless outcomes, but on his dedication, his effort, his creativity, and his ability to grow from learning and experiences.
[8:52] Practice equanimity. Learning to maintain balance and calm Even faced with imperfections or unexpected challenges It was crucial for Hunter, This play enabled him to navigate the pressures of his work with greater composure And to handle setbacks more effectively When faced with the storm, it's not to go running blindly into it It's about retracting into the eye of the storm where we can reflect And then choose our reactions instead of just blindly reacting, hunter's experience is a compelling example of the transformation that occurs when we shift our focus from perfection to progress you know his story it demonstrates that true resilience and success comes not from striving for flawless outcomes but from embracing the imperfections and challenges that are inherent in any endeavor and, By implementing strategies of the contrarian playbook, this contrarian mindset.
[9:54] Hunter was able to break free from the constraints of perfectionism and adopt a more flexible, growth-oriented approach. His road, his story, it highlights the importance of accepting imperfections as part of the process and using them as stepping stones towards a continuous evolution of ourselves, to improvement, to growth, to development, to innovation.
[10:17] You know, for anyone struggling with similar perfectionist tendencies, which is most of us, I think Hunter's story, it offers valuable insights into the power of progress. It reminds us that resilience is built through adaptability, learning, and a willingness to embrace the messiness of growth, of development. By focusing on what truly matters, continuous improvement, and the lessons learned along the way, we can achieve greater fulfillment, creativity, and success. I think Hunter's shift from perfectionist to progress not only transformed his professional approach, but also enriched his personal life. It illustrates the impact of embracing a more balanced and resilient mindset. I think it also serves as a reminder that we shouldn't base our value of who we are based on an outcome. Because what happens? Outcomes can shift. There are so many variables in play that we can't be aware of each of those variables and how they will affect us. Where we can focus is on our efforts. It's on our actions. And we know that with anything that we create or develop or build, the first permutation is not going to be the final permutation. It's the first draft and it's an iterative process.
[11:35] And through that iterative process, we learn, we grow, and we can abandon slowly and surely the perfectionist mindset.
[11:45] Now, if you're interested in any of the skills that I've talked about, if you want to explore them deeply, you can rewind back to the episodes beginning in January 2025, where I do a dedicated episode to each of the contrarian mindset skills.
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[12:05] If you're curious to know how to build a contrarian mindset for greater resilience fortitude tenacity psychological strength and a sense of well-being well you'll find the links to the other episodes in the series in the show notes so make sure you hit that subscribe button and i'll be back next week with my long-form conversational episodes on monday and the latest Bite Sites episode on Friday and have yourself a relaxing and rejuvenating weekend.
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