S5 EP236 | Finding Love Across Time with Leslie Hachtel

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Hello Happy My People,

In this episode of Book Banter with Dianne Burckhardt, I talked with award-winning and Amazon bestselling author Leslie Hachtel about her writing career and her time-travel romance, Come Back to Me.

Leslie has written nineteen romance novels across several subgenres, including historical romance, time travel, and romantic suspense. Before becoming an author, she also had a pretty eclectic collection of jobs, including licensed veterinary technician, caterer, horseback riding instructor for the disabled, and advertising media buyer.

I talked with Leslie about how she went from simply loving to write to making it her career, some of the challenges she has faced along the way, and what it has been like seeing her work move beyond novels into television and film. We also discussed how her writing process changes when she moves between different romance subgenres.

Then, of course, we got into Come Back to Me. Leslie takes readers back to Scotland in 1562 as Skye Blaine travels through time in search of the man she loves. We talked about what inspired Leslie to combine romance, history, time travel, magic, and faith in one story, as well as the historical research that went into creating the world of the novel.

And because nobody escapes my Five Quick Questions, Leslie also faced questions inspired by a little snooping around her website, including avoiding housework, her many careers, her writing buddy Josie, and book-to-movie adaptations.

For more behind the interview information from this episode, read today’s blog at BurckhardtBooks.com/blog, where I share my impressions of my conversation with Leslie.

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Dianne Burckhardt 0:01

You're listening to BookBanter with Diane Burkhart, your Book Talk podcast. Join me every Wednesday for real conversations with authors and publishing insiders, where you get to connect with the humans behind the books you love. Let's get on with our show today. Well, hello, my happy people. Today is August 19th, 2026, and of course I have got another fantastic author for you today. Now, what would you do if the person you loved was separated from you? But not by distance, but by centuries. Today's guest has built a career around romance, writing 19 novels across historical romance, romantic suspense, and time travel. But before writing became a career, she had a pretty interesting collection of jobs, including working as a veterinary technician, caterer, horseback writing instructor for the disabled, and advertising media buyer. She is really interesting. And her latest novel takes readers back to Scotland in 1562, where love, history, magic, and time travel collide in Come Back to Me. Now don't forget to stick around to the very end because, of course, we have got some great announcements for you, including who will be up next week and things that are going on at Burkhart Books and Bookbanter Productions. So let's not waste any more blather right now. Let's bring out our guest. Please welcome to BookBanter with Diane Burkhart, award-winning and Amazon best-selling romance author, Leslie Hatchel. Please tell everyone who you are and what you do.

SPEAKER_00 1:48

My name is Leslie Hatchell. I write romance, various genres. I write romantic suspense and historical and paranormal because I can't really decide which one I like best. Sort of like choose your favorite child, I can't. So it depends on how the mood strikes me, what I'm working on next.

Dianne Burckhardt 2:06

Well, you know, and that's one thing that I've talked to other romance authors about is that one of the great things about romance is that you can pretty much write every other genre that is out there within romance. You can do horror, you can do sci-fi, you can do paranormal and mysteries. I mean, everything can fall into romance.

SPEAKER_00 2:31

That's the only rule. And yeah, the the flexibility is awesome because there are so many things that'll strike me, particularly that I'll think I want to pursue that or I want to pursue that. And so you go from uh sweet and loving to killing people on paper.

Dianne Burckhardt 2:48

Yeah, on paper.

SPEAKER_00 2:49

Only on paper.

Dianne Burckhardt 2:52

Now, one of the things that I found really interesting about whenever I was stalking you on your social media was that you had a lot of different jobs, many of them involving animals. Before you wrote your first book, what was that distinct moment that you realized that you actually wanted to pursue writing as a career?

SPEAKER_00 3:13

Years ago, I was, and this is a true story, I was cleaning my house and I lived in a duplex. So I was going to go downstairs to change the sheets. And I thought, I can either go change my sheets or I can write a book. Okay, where did that come from? So I went back upstairs. I pulled out my word processor, which tells you how old it was, and I wrote a book. It was a terrible book, it was awful. It ended up in the trash where it belonged, but it sparked the passion. And suddenly I realized that I had a thousand stories to tell, and I wanted to tell them, and it became almost all-consuming, but you have to make a living. So, in addition, I worked, I worked full-time, but every available moment I would write. And I had some success. I had a screenplay option, I wrote an episodic, a TV episodic, and I thought I really like the novel format better. So I got into that.

Dianne Burckhardt 4:16

So, how long before from that first book that you wrote to your first book that you published? How long was that?

SPEAKER_00 4:24

Oh gosh, 25 years.

Dianne Burckhardt 4:26

Oh, wow. That's a long time to hold a dream to become a writer.

SPEAKER_00 4:31

Well, I would I would write stories, but I would never write, I would never finish anything. I would never carry it through. I didn't, I I used to say that I was so green that people watered me because I didn't know anything. And then I could kept running into one obstacle after another. My favorite obstacle was, and I don't know if your listeners will relate to this. In the olden days, when you wanted to submit a manuscript, they required an SASE. Well, I didn't know what that's so I kept trying. What's an SASE? Somebody tell me nobody knew. So imagine my delight when I found out that it was self-addressed, damned envelope. But it was because when you start out and you don't know, you don't know any of the rules, you don't know how anything works, you're gonna run into obstacles till you get those answers. And that's true of any new writer, I think.

Dianne Burckhardt 5:28

Not as dumb as S ASE, but the digital age has made some things a little bit easier, at least. Absolutely, even though technology does come with its own problems.

SPEAKER_00 5:40

Yes, it does.

Dianne Burckhardt 5:41

What was it like whenever you had that discussion with your husband that you said it's like, honey, I think I want to write books.

SPEAKER_00 5:49

He said, What kind of computer do you need?

Dianne Burckhardt 5:52

Nice, that's a good answer. That's a good husband to have.

SPEAKER_00 5:57

Yes, very supportive. Initially, when I started to know what I was doing, I had a critique partner that was pretty cruel and made me feel like, forget it, right? And so I obviously did the normal thing and went into bed into a fetal position and felt very sorry for myself. And after a few hours of this, he came in and said, get up, go back. That's only one opinion. And that was an important lesson that writing, when you're telling stories, if somebody doesn't like it, that's only one opinion. And if you if you like it, if it's if you're being honest with yourself and telling the story you want to tell, it it doesn't matter what anybody else thinks. People will love it or they won't. But the important thing for me anyway is telling the story.

Dianne Burckhardt 6:52

Sounds like my husband and your husband would get along very well.

SPEAKER_00 6:57

You really can't, you have to have a support system because publishing, it's hard, it's lonely. Oh yeah. And I don't know how people do it without a support system.

Dianne Burckhardt 7:07

Oh, yeah. There are some nights that I'm in here working so long or doing interviews like this around like dinner time. And my husband will just get up and go into the kitchen, clean up the kitchen, make dinner for us, have it waiting for me whenever I get done with what I'm doing in here. I couldn't do half the stuff that I have done if it wasn't for him.

SPEAKER_00 7:25

Exactly. And I was working and then finally he said, quit your jobs, quit your jobs and write full time. And that was a revelation to get to be able to write on my schedule rather than on a work schedule. And right after I started writing full time, I think I got my first contract within six months.

Dianne Burckhardt 7:48

Wow, that's amazing. That's really good. And that actually kind of like leads into the next question that I had too, because you're an award-winning author and you have 19 books in print at the moment, I believe. You've also, like you mentioned, sold an episodic television show and you had a screenplay optioned. Was that one produced?

SPEAKER_00 8:07

It was kind of surreal. Again, I was I was such a neophyte. I knew so little that I sort of stumbled into those things. And there was no trajectory, there was no forward motion because I was just sort of flailing and I got lucky a couple of times. And then I realized that I might have to learn something, which is pretty humbling.

Dianne Burckhardt 8:33

I know I have learned so much since I started doing this stuff.

SPEAKER_00 8:37

And once you learn, it's like, oh, okay, point of view, show versus tell. I I'm getting it now, and it it does make it easier.

Dianne Burckhardt 8:48

I don't know if it makes you feel any better. My first degree is in journalism, and I actually worked for like magazines and newspapers, and I did ghostwriting for people. And there's still so much that I'm learning all the time. Because, you know, technology's changing, the way that people are doing things are different, you know, there's more platforms that are showing up that people can actually put their work out there. I don't think there's ever going to be a time that any author who really wants to make a career out of this can say, I'm done learning. There's there's no way to do that. You're always going to be learning more.

SPEAKER_00 9:20

I agree. And that's why author network, and that's one of the things I love about the position I'm in now is I'm involved in author networks. So you communicate with other authors and we just having a conversation, there's so much you learn. Oh, yeah. Other than just webinars, which are great. But just talking to other authors and and and exchanging ideas and talking about plot issues or all those things is it, and it's also it's more fulfilling because you feel like you're part of something bigger than yourself, which I really love.

Dianne Burckhardt 9:56

Well, and I have to admit something too. That's one of the reasons why I love doing this podcast. Because being an American author here in Germany, where I don't have a wide network of other authors who also write in English, there are authors here that I network with, but it's not as big as what I would have had in the United States. So doing this podcast just blows open my network of being able to talk to other authors who also write in English. And every single episode that I do, I learn something from the person that I'm interviewing. It's just, it's incredible. It is such a wealth of knowledge for me. I mean, not even for information for the listeners. I get so much out of this.

SPEAKER_00 10:37

And it's so much fun to interact and have that connection. And and uh we talk about this a lot, that authors say would will say things that other people would say, What? Like, my character made me do it. Yeah. Well, sure, sure they did. No, they did.

Dianne Burckhardt 11:00

That's one thing that has been so comforting is to hear how many other authors will say, Yeah, I wrote an outline, but then my characters took over and they told me where the story was gonna go. I'm like, Yes, I'm not crazy.

SPEAKER_00 11:11

Exactly, exactly. Uh I was writing a series and I thought I was done, and one of the characters said, Well, what about me? What you you gotta tell my story? It's like, but you can't tell that to anybody but another author because hearing voices are you?

Dianne Burckhardt 11:28

It's amazing. It's that's one of the things that is so great about those. You'd mentioned that you like to write all these different genres within romance, that you've done historical romance, romantic suspense, time crossover, time travel. Do you approach each genre differently, or does your writing process stay fairly the same regardless of what the genre within romance is?

SPEAKER_00 11:51

So I was just having this conversation with some other writers, and I I don't have a process, quote unquote. A lot of authors do, and I respect that, but I just I have an idea. I sit down and I it's a story. It's a story that plays in my head, and it plays in my head in a wake, I'll wake up at three in the morning. It's like, oh, I forgot that part kind of thing. I also write more than one genre simultaneously, which makes a lot of my friends crazy. It's like, how can you keep them keep keep it straight? Because they're completely different genres. I I just wrote the end on a romantic suspense, which is part two of uh the notorious series. And at the same time, I'm writing book four in the time travel series. And then I'm writing another one, which is sort of a contemporary sweet book, but they're so different. I sort of key, I'm gonna write on this one today, or I'm gonna write, but there's no no difference in the quote unquote process for me.

Dianne Burckhardt 12:54

Every author runs into obstacles along the way whenever they're building their career. What has been one of the biggest challenges that you have faced, and how did you work through it?

SPEAKER_00 13:05

Well, one of the biggest challenges is the business itself because it's so different. I mean, it used to be you wrote a book, you found an agent, and you submitted that book, and they either accepted it or they didn't, which was a huge obstacle. For I mean, Stephen King also talks about how he submitted carry and was rejected 30 times. Happens a lot. And it's so, it's almost debilitating. You get to the point, in fact, my first contract, when you submit a book, they will write to you and say, thank you for submitting, and they use the title of the book. And usually that's a rejection. So I was reading that and I thought, oh, great, right? And I figured, well, I'll finish reading the email and said, We'd like to offer you a contract. And I fell out of my chair because the expectation was, you know, the boilerplate rejection. But it isn't as personal, and yet it is, if that makes sense, it's more personal. And so, I mean, with my editors, I have a personal relationship. But the business, when you go to conferences, one of the things that the publishers will say and the agents will say is we are not the enemy. But it sort of feels adversarial. So that's the biggest obstacle, as far as I'm concerned, is the business, the way it changes every day and how the market has changed. I have one project that's very close to my heart that with the political environment, nobody'll touch it. It's not even a political book. But there's no point in knowing it's gonna not do well. I'll I'll wait till the environment changes.

Dianne Burckhardt 14:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:50

So we those are the obstacles.

Dianne Burckhardt 14:52

Now seems like the perfect time for you to give us a synopsis of your book, Come Back to Me.

SPEAKER_00 14:58

I love Come Back to Me. It's one of my, well, again, which of your children do you love the best? Come back to me is the story of a woman who goes to an estate sale and sees a portrait tucked in the corner. It's a portrait of a man in Scottish attire, and she looks and she says, That is my soulmate. And then she figures out when the date that it was done, it was done in the 1500s. So obviously there's talk about obstacles, but she is determined this is her soulmate. So she goes on eBay and she buys a time travel cloak because no matter what it costs, eBay comes with a guarantee. If it didn't work, she'd get her money back. Well, it turns out it did work, and she went back in time and she met her soulmate, and then it's actually the start of a series as well, because then her best friend, she's disappeared, and her best friend has no idea where she went. And so she ends up following her, and then a woman from the past comes into the future to track the villain, and that of the of the three, that was the hardest, because we don't realize how much we take for granted. So I had to put my head into the idea of being from the 1500s and seeing cell phones and seeing plugs in the wall and seeing automobiles and all these things that we don't even think about. So every of the three books they were going back in time and doing all that research and then coming forward and having to change my mindset. So I loved writing those books. And actually, I'm working on book four, which is the villain story. And spoiler alert, I can't redeem her.

Dianne Burckhardt 16:58

Sometimes that's fun though, when you can't redeem the villain.

SPEAKER_00 17:02

So she gets to be as nasty as I want her to be, or she wants to be.

Dianne Burckhardt 17:08

As you said, the Come Back to Me blends romance, history, time travel, magic, and faith. What inspired the idea for the story?

SPEAKER_00 17:18

Going to an estate sale.

Dianne Burckhardt 17:19

Oh, nice.

SPEAKER_00 17:20

Just going and what if because estate sales generally, real estate sales, have old things, antiques, and and it's different than an antique store because it's a lot more personal. So I went to an estate sale and I saw an old painting. And I thought, huh, what if there was a connection to that painting? And it took off from there. So that inspired it. The the weirdest things inspire books. My for my Morocco series, I was in an escape room, and the theme of the escape room was if you are Shanghai on a boat, and that started the Morocco series. So it it inspiration comes from the strangest places, and it's completely unpredictable, then you just gotta quick write it down because I promise you won't remember.

Dianne Burckhardt 18:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:12

You don't.

Dianne Burckhardt 18:13

I love that the Morocco series came from an escape room, though. That sounds great. This story, Come Back to Me, takes readers back to 1562 Scotland. How much historical research went into creating this world?

SPEAKER_00 18:28

A ton. Because I think that writers who don't do their homework cheat their readers. So I want to know everything from what they ate to what they wore, to what their routines were, to what the class distinctions were, to what the castle looked like. And it's said in Eileen Donan Castle, which actually still exists. You can still visit it. Eileen Donan was built in the 1300s. It was destroyed in the 1700s, which plays a part in my latest book, and then it's rebuilt in the 1900s. So if you go and you look at Eileen Donan today, many of the original things have been preserved or actually rebuilt because it was burned to the ground. But there are changes. And so you don't want to make a mistake of saying they wore this outfit or they ate this food when people know better. Because it takes the reader out of the story, at least it takes me out of the story. And if details aren't accurate, I get angry. It's like do your homework. So I try to be really, really careful about the details in all my books.

Dianne Burckhardt 19:43

When you're doing research like this, do you ever catch yourself like going down a rabbit hole? I know in my first series that I wrote, it was a historical fiction, and I spent so much time researching what kind of drinks they could actually have in a saloon. Because I was looking up to see if they could have carbonated drinks like carbonated water. And they actually did have dandelion medicine drinks that you could get in saloons back then. And I don't know how much time I spent researching that because I just found it interesting. I'm like, oh wait, I'm supposed to be writing my book.

SPEAKER_00 20:14

I think that that going down rabbit holes puts your head in the game. It really does. It and that's what you want. You want to be in the zone, you want to be able to have every detail so that it brings you there. It's like uh it reminds me of the movie Somewhere in Time where he had money that barred forward again. That taught me not to make those mistakes. And the rabbit holes are helpful because you you get into things that you wouldn't have thought of.

Dianne Burckhardt 20:50

Oh, yeah, definitely. Now seems like the perfect time to do our five quick questions that never turn out to be quick, but I just refuse to give up hope. Are you ready?

SPEAKER_00 21:02

Ready now.

Dianne Burckhardt 21:04

As I said, I had done a lot of snooping on your social media this morning. So we're going to be taking questions from your website. Question one I know you attributed avoiding housework to the reason why you wrote your first book. If you had plenty of disposable cash and could pay someone to take over one household chore for you forever, what would it be?

SPEAKER_00 21:26

Changing the sheets.

Dianne Burckhardt 21:28

That's a good one. For me, it's dusting. It's like, please let somebody else do that. But I can understand the sheets. I think that's like a workout all on its own.

SPEAKER_00 21:38

And we've split the platform so the sheets are split, so you have to get on the bed to tuck it in in between. Yeah. I I would give that up in a minute. In fact, I tell my husband that I'm way too famous to do this kind of work, but it it doesn't really work.

Dianne Burckhardt 21:56

Never hurts to try though.

SPEAKER_00 21:58

Exactly.

Dianne Burckhardt 22:01

As we discussed earlier, you have had many careers throughout your lifetime, many of them involving working with animals. So, question two out of all of the different careers that you have had, which one did you enjoy the most?

SPEAKER_00 22:14

Teaching horseback riding to the disabled. The horse-human connection is amazing. It's transformative. And you see human nature at its finest because people are facing their fears because people are afraid of horses and they do it anyway. And then you see them blossom. And it was a party every day, as far as I'm concerned, because of the the good that it did to see that bond, to see how these people who were closed up opened up. That was absolutely my favorite.

Dianne Burckhardt 22:55

I can understand how that kind of therapy would work because I've had several horses through my lifetime. And oh my God, the connections that I had with my horses, it was just amazing. Like stress just disappears. Exactly. Question three. Out of your careers again, which one do you think helped you the most with your writing career?

SPEAKER_00 23:17

My career in advertising. Because you realize, and Maya Angela said it way better than I can say it, but basically people will, and I'm paraphrasing, people may not remember you, but they will remember how you made them feel. And the basis of advertising is to make people feel good, have a positive response. So when I'm writing, if I'm going to make a point in a controversial subject, for example, I want to approach it in such a way that it's palatable rather than offensive. Because if you offend people, you're not going to communicate. So I think advertising taught me that.

Dianne Burckhardt 24:04

Speaking of that, one of the things that most people have a hard time with is marketing their own books. Did you find that your experience in advertising helped you market your books easier?

SPEAKER_00 24:14

No. No. It's very hard for me to say, oh, I'm a great writer. I do the, you know, and you should read my books because it's so that's just that's just not me. So I mean, the basic stuff, exposure and marketing, it again, it's sort of like boilerplate, but it's very hard to talk about how great my books are and why you should read them. And and in fact, when I see other authors say, buy my book, buy my book, buy my book, it's off-putting.

Dianne Burckhardt 25:00

Question four. This I got from a photo on your website. It looks like your writing buddy Josie can sometimes give you some serious attitude. So, question four is how much does Josie really help you in your writing process?

SPEAKER_00 25:17

Unconditional love.

Dianne Burckhardt 25:20

That's always helpful.

unknown 25:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:23

And she she actually has so much personality. Something happened the other morning. We have a mirrored door in our bedroom, which we are getting rid of. But in the meantime, she went up to the the mirror and she's she's very angry because the dog in the mirror won't play with her. So she's like poking and poking at the dog, and the dog is not gonna play with her. And suddenly just threw her chin in the air and walked away, like, fine, be that way.

Dianne Burckhardt 25:54

Well, I love that picture that you have on your about page because she just looks like she's really looking at the camera, going, I am fabulous.

SPEAKER_00 26:04

That's exactly right. And you can't have a staring contest with her because she'll win. She's uh so it's it's definitely unconditional love, but it's also she's always good for a laugh. And a lot of the times that's super important.

Dianne Burckhardt 26:19

And what was it? She's a poodle mix?

SPEAKER_00 26:22

Yes, she's a doodle. She's uh part Chesapeake Bay Retriever and part poodle.

Dianne Burckhardt 26:27

She's so adorable.

SPEAKER_00 26:29

She really is.

Dianne Burckhardt 26:31

Now for question five, we're asking everybody the same question because we are building a list to put in our year-in book buying guide for holiday shopping in November. So, your question number five is in your opinion, what is the best book to movie adaptation that you have seen so far?

SPEAKER_00 26:48

The Godfather.

Dianne Burckhardt 26:50

That's a good one.

SPEAKER_00 26:52

Probably. I think it's I can understand why a lot of these books don't translate. One that does is Virgin River, which is it's not really a movie, it's more of a TV series, but that translated really well. But it's when you're dealing in different uh media, it's it's it's hard to do the same thing in a book that you're doing on screen. And sometimes it's easier because you can do more with visuals. But one of the things I like about books is that like radio, it leaves a lot to your imagination, which means it's you participate.

Dianne Burckhardt 27:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:31

And I love that. I love that about books.

Dianne Burckhardt 27:34

Yeah, it's kind of a partnership between the writer and the reader that each reader that you're working with creates a whole new story with you.

SPEAKER_00 27:42

Exactly. That's exactly right. Well said.

Dianne Burckhardt 27:46

So now what is next for you?

SPEAKER_00 27:50

As I said, I just uh typed the end on the second in my notorious series, which is a romantic suspense. And then I'm working on book four of the time travel, the Come Back to Me series with the villain. And then the third one is going to be a contemporary uh based on my experiences as a veterinary technician.

Dianne Burckhardt 28:11

Oh, nice.

SPEAKER_00 28:12

So the uh heroine gets to have the experiences, the funny experiences that I had. And I did it a long time, and there were lots of funny experiences.

Dianne Burckhardt 28:21

See, I love whenever authors take something that's so personal and put it into their work. I think that just really brings the story more alive.

SPEAKER_00 28:32

You have to have some realism. You have to, you have to have something that says to the reader, I'm not messing with you. This is who I am, and in a different costume, in a different setting. But this is this is who I am. And if I were in the story, this is how it would be. And that's that's the essence of voice. And if your voice doesn't ring true, nobody's gonna want to read your books. I've I mean, I think and that's why AI isn't gonna work, because AI doesn't have the human touch, it's cold. And if you look at something that's AI generated, it's like, where's the soul? Yeah, I guess that's missing.

Dianne Burckhardt 29:22

Now, why don't we go ahead and remind our listeners who you are and where they can find your work?

SPEAKER_00 29:28

I'm Leslie Hatchell. I write romance in various genres, and all of my work is on Amazon.

Dianne Burckhardt 29:36

And of course, we will have links to your social media and to Amazon so that people can check out the description of today's podcast and just click and go and go buy your books.

SPEAKER_00 29:47

Great. Thank you.

Dianne Burckhardt 29:48

This has been so much fun. I'm glad we got to do this. I'm so happy.

SPEAKER_00 29:54

Glad.

Dianne Burckhardt 29:54

Say well, and hopefully in the future, whenever you have more books coming out, you'll come back.

SPEAKER_00 29:59

This is so fun. Thank you. Thank you for having me.

Dianne Burckhardt 30:03

So there you have it, folks. That was my interview with the amazing Leslie Hatchel. I really enjoyed getting to talk with Leslie about all of the different roads her life has taken, how those experiences have influenced her writing, and of course, talking about Come Back to Me. Please be sure to check out Leslie's books, follow her online to see what she has coming out next, and of course, join her mailing list so that you can keep up to date with everything that she is doing and updates on her writing partner, Josie. And make sure you come back next week because I will be talking with young adult fantasy romance author and fellow podcaster, Cindy Breck. During our conversation, Cindy revealed something I absolutely did not expect. Apparently, some advice I gave her years ago actually influenced how she markets herself and her books today. I had no idea. This is absolutely amazing to me. You'll have to come back next week to find out exactly what happened. Now, there's also a lot happening behind the scenes here at Burkhart Books and Bookbanch Productions. We are gearing up for the Frankfurter Book Mesa this year, and one of the things we'll be doing while we're there is scouting booth sizes and costs. We're hoping that next year we'll be able to be there as exhibitors for BookBanter with Diane Burkhart Book Talk Podcast, including being able to do live broadcasts right from the convention floor. We have some pretty big plans coming for this next year, so if you want to follow along with everything we've got going, please go to Burkhartbooks.com slash subscribe and sign up for our mailing list. We send out one newsletter a week when a new podcast episode is published, and we promise not to go crazy on you and send you a bunch of unsolicited information. And the best thing is you can unsubscribe at any time. And occasionally you do get freebies and early access to things that we don't share with the public right away. So there are benefits. And don't forget about our new Haunted Hearts Paranormal Romance series that is currently being developed with Burkhart Books. There will be seven books in this series, with the first book coming later this year. Keep watching the newsletter because I will be sharing more information about the series, along with some freebies with this book line, as we get closer to publication for the first book, Langston Watch Hotel. Well, that is more than enough for today, folks. So you know what that means. It's that time. Time for you all to go forth and be really happy that we finally have some new books coming out for you. Thank you for joining us today. Be sure to subscribe to BookBanter with Diane Burkhart on your favorite podcast streaming service. Because if you love books like we do, you do not want to miss a single episode of this podcast.