Ep 120 - Atomic Habits for ADHD: How to Build Habits That Actually Stick

Are you exhausted from trying to build habits that never stick? Do you know exactly what you should be doing but still struggle to follow through consistently? What if the problem isn't that you lack discipline - it's that traditional habit-building advice doesn't account for how ADHD brains actually work?

In this episode of Learn to Thrive with ADHD, Coach Mande John breaks down Atomic Habits by James Clear through an ADHD lens. She explains why small changes repeated over time can be transformational for ADHD brains - and how to build habits that reduce executive function load instead of relying on willpower alone.

In this episode, we discuss:

• Why ADHD makes consistency hard: executive function affects starting, remembering, prioritizing, shifting attention, and tolerating boredom
• How habits reduce the executive function load required to do supportive behaviors
• The keystone habit concept: choosing the one habit that makes multiple other things easier
• Why trying to fix everything at once usually doesn't last (and what to do instead)
• Starting smaller than you think you need to: why small habits are easier to start, repeat, and return to after interruption
• The 4-part habit framework from Atomic Habits: cue, craving, response, reward
• How to troubleshoot habits instead of blaming yourself when they don't stick
• Why "Is the cue strong enough?" is a better question than "Why can't I ever get it together?"
• Using environment to make cues visible and obvious (out of sight = out of mind for ADHD)
• How external support like tracking, reminders, calendars, and accountability helps habits stick
• Why habits need to feel satisfying and rewarding to last (especially with ADHD)
• The 2-minute rule: making habits so easy to begin that your brain doesn't resist
• Why the hardest part isn't the habit itself - it's getting started (activation energy)
• The timeline question: why it may take longer for ADHD brains to build habits (and why that doesn't mean you're failing)
• Why slow progress is still progress and needing more support doesn't make the habit less real

Mande shares personal examples including how her keystone habit of planning on Google Calendar took two years to solidify - and why that's still a win. She explains why small habits aren't about being unambitious; they're about lowering the barrier to entry so the pattern can actually form.

Key Takeaway: Habits aren't about becoming perfect. They're about making life more doable. When something becomes habitual, there's less friction, less debate, less starting from scratch. You're no longer depending entirely on your most effortful brain functions to get through daily life. Don't dismiss a system just because it looks simple. Don't assume something isn't working just because it's taking longer than you hoped. The goal is to build systems that make your life easier to follow through on.

Resources Mentioned:

• 📖 Book: Atomic Habits by James Clear
• Weekly ADHD Newsletter: learntothrivewithadhd.com/weekly
• Instagram: @learntothrivewithadhd

Ready to build habits that actually work with your ADHD brain? Book a free coaching consultation with Coach Mande at learntothrivewithadhd.com/services

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Transcript

Welcome to Learn to Thrive with ADHD. This is the podcast for adults with ADHD or ADHD like symptoms. I'm your host coach, Maddie John. I'm here to make your life with ADHD easier. Let's get started.

Welcome. I really like doing these book reviews for you guys, especially when the book is so helpful for people with ADHD. Not everybody likes to read or has the attention and focus to do it.

But I love to read, and I love to apply what I learn. And I really do feel like it's one of my superpowers. And I don't just apply it to my own life. I also use it with my Learn to Thrive with ADHD clients and help build tools from it. So one of the biggest challenges for so many of us with ADHD is not knowing what to do.

Usually we know exactly what to do. It's doing what we know consistently over time, especially when life is busy, stressful, or overwhelming. And that's why I think habits matter so much for us. Because when something becomes a habit, we don't have to rely so heavily on motivation, memory, decision making, and effort in the moment. And for our ADHD brains, that matters a lot.

That's one of the reasons I wanted to talk about Atomic Habits by James Clear. Even though this book was not written specifically for ADHD, there's so much that's helpful for us in this book. I mean, everything is the

the whole premise is that small changes repeated over time can create big results. And I think that message is especially important for people with ADHD, because so many of us have spent years feeling like we were just more disciplined.

If we were just more motivated, more consistent, then everything would finally click. But what I appreciate about this book is that it takes habit building out of the realm of willpower and puts it into the realm of structure, environment, repetition, and design. And that is so much more helpful in the conversation for those of us with ADHD. So in this episode, I want to talk about why I think atomic habits can be so useful for us and what parts feel especially relevant, and how we can actually reduce some of this day to day friction that we experience.

Not because habits make ADHD disappear, and not because it's about becoming perfect, but because when we build the right habits, we can make a life that feels less hard and we all deserve an easier life. So why does ADHD make consistency hard? One of the hardest parts of having ADHD is from the outside. It can look like you should be able to do something, especially if you know what needs to be done.

And yet actually doing it consistently can still feel incredibly hard. That disconnect is so frustrating. You might know the steps. You might agree with the goal, and you might really want the outcome and still find yourself not starting. Not following through. Are not repeating the behavior long enough for it to stick. And that's where so many people with ADHD end up feeling confused, ashamed, or like they must not be trying hard enough.

But usually the issue is not lack of desire. It's that ADHD affects our executive function, and executive function is what helps us do the very things that's required to create a habit. Getting started. Remembering the right time. Prioritizing. Shifting attention. Tolerating boredom. Following through when the task is no longer new or interesting. So even when something is simple in theory, it can still be hard in practice.

And I think that's why consistency feels so personal for those of us with ADHD. It's not that we forget to do something. Sometimes it is, but it's that we often judge ourselves for struggling with the exact thing that's already making ADHD hard. We tell ourselves that if it mattered enough, we would have done it. If we were more disciplined, we would have stuck with it.

If we were more responsible, we would not need the reminders or so much structure, so many restarts. But that way of looking at it misses what is actually going on. ADHD creates real barriers to consistency, especially, like I said, when something's repetitive, boring, delayed, and reward mentally effortful. It's easy to ignore in the moment. So when I say ADHD makes consistency hard, I don't mean impossible.

I mean it takes more support, more attention, more trial and error. Then people realize that it does. And it doesn't mean anything's wrong with you. It means you need an approach that takes your brain into account.

what I've found in my own life is that habits can be incredibly powerful to reduce the ADHD friction that I deal with the day to day tiredness.

And that matters because ADHD function is expensive for us. It takes energy. It takes effort. It takes remembering, deciding, initiating, organizing, following through, and sometimes all of that at once. And when something is not yet a habit, we have to manually make it happen every single time.

Every single step. We have to remember to do it, decide to do it, get ourselves started, stay with it. And that's a lot.

But when something becomes more habitual, then there's less friction. There's less debate. There's less starting from scratch, less trying to recreate the wheel. Every single day, behavior becomes more familiar, more automatic, and easier to return to. And I really do think one of the biggest reasons habits become life changing for people with ADHD

Is that they lower the amount of mental energy required to do things that support us. For me, one of the most important habits I built was to plan, check my plan, and honor my plan. For me, that looked like Google Calendar, but obviously the specific tool is different for everyone.

The important part is not the tool itself. The important part is that I created a repeated system that I could rely on, instead of constantly trying to remember everything in my head, or deciding in the moment what I should be doing. I had structure I could return to. Over time, that structure became more natural.

It didn't happen overnight, but it made a huge difference. And that's why I don't think habits are just nice little add ons for people with ADHD. I think they're foundational because if we can turn a supportive behavior into something more automatic, then we're no longer dependent entirely on the most effortful brain functions to get through everyday life. We're creating systems that help us do what we already want to do.

One of my favorite ideas when it comes to habits is the idea of a keystone habit. And I actually have been talking about keystone habits for a long time, and I did not know where this came from. Yes, they talk about it in atomic habits, but it actually came from the power of habit.

is more the psychology behind habits, which atomic habits goes into and atomic habits is more the actual application in the

the idea of a keystone habit I've used with clients and with myself again and again. And we're going to go into that and and talk about what your keystone habit might be.

So a keystone habit is not just one good habit among many. It's a habit that helps hold the others up. It creates a ripple effect. It makes other helpful behaviors more easier, more likely, more natural to follow through on. And I think this matters so much for those of us with ADHD, because one of the biggest mistakes we tend to make is trying to fix everything at once.

A lot of us are very aware of all the areas of our life that feel hard time management, meal planning, sleep, exercise, cleaning, paperwork, routines, emotional regulation, follow through. So when we decide we want things to change, it's very easy to go into overhaul mode. We want a full reset. We want to do everything differently starting now. And usually that does not last because it's just too much.

Too many decisions, too much pressure, too much effort, too many places to fall off.

That is why I think he stone habits are such a powerful concept. They help you stop asking, how do I fix my whole life and start asking, what is one habit that would make several other things easier for me? One of those key habits was that planning I talked about. I created a digital calendar and that became a keystone habit because it supported so many other parts of my life.

Everything that went on the calendar helped.

It helped with time management and helped with follow through. It helped me know what I was doing when I reduced some of the chaos and last minute scrambling for someone else. That keystone habit might look totally different. It might look like going to bed at a certain time. It might look like meal prepping. It might look like doing a Sunday reset or exercising regularly.

I was just coaching someone who wanted to improve her health, but she didn't want to try to change everything at once. So we talked about what was one habit that would naturally support the others, and for her, that was working out regularly because she felt like if she did that, she would eat healthier and she would be more mindful in other ways too.

And that's what makes this so ADHD friendly.

Instead of trying to build ten habits at once, you can look for one with the most leverage, and then you can start smaller than you think you need to. Because another thing I really appreciate about Atomic Habits is that it pushes back against the idea that changes have to be dramatic to count. Small changes matter. Small behaviors repeated over time can create meaningful results.

And I think that matters so much because for ADHD brain small changes are easier to start, easier to repeat, and easier to come back to after an interruption. Big overhauls require a lot of activation energy and small habits. Ask less of us and create less resistance, and it leaves more room for life to happen.

And because they're less overwhelming, they're often things that we can actually keep doing long enough for them to become useful. I think people with ADHD need a lot more permission to go smaller. Permission to build slowly. Permission to stop measuring progress by intensity and start measuring it by repeatability. Because sometimes the habit that looks too small to matter actually is the one that changes everything.

Not because it's impressive in the moment, but because it's doable enough for it to last. For me, that habit of time management took two years. That's longer than what people usually want to hear. My clients are in shock when I tell them that it's longer than the catchy promises on the internet, right? But honestly, who cares if it took two years and now I have it.

The habit that supports me. That's still a win. I would much rather take longer to actually solve the problem and the problem be solved, and then rush the process and be struggling ten years from now. So small does not mean insignificant, and slow does not mean failing. Sometimes small is exactly what makes a habit possible, and sometimes slow is exactly what makes it sustainable.

So one of the things I really appreciate about Atomic habits is it does not just tell you to do better. It gives you a framework for understanding why a habit is or is not working. And I think that's incredibly helpful for those of us with ADHD, because so many of us are used to interpreting inconsistency as a character flaw.

If we're not following through, we assume we must be lazy, undisciplined, irresponsible, or just bad at life. But usually there's more going on than that. Usually there's a reason a habit is not sticking. The book of breaks habits down into four parts Q, craving, response, and reward. In other words, something has to remind you.

Something has to make the behavior feel appealing enough to do. The behavior itself has to be doable. And there has to be some kind of satisfying payoff in the end. And I think that kind of breakdown is so useful because it gives you something to examine besides your own worth. Instead of saying, why can't I ever get it together, you can ask, is the cue strong enough?

Is it too hard to start? Is there too much friction? Is there a reward to delayed?

Am I expecting my brain to do something that it's not actually supported to do right now? That is such a different conversation.

It moves you out of shame into problem solving.

If you keep forgetting a habit, maybe the issue is not that you don't care. Maybe the cue is too weak. If you keep avoiding something, maybe the habits too big, too boring, too disconnected from any immediate payoff.

If you keep falling off after a few days, maybe the system is relying too heavily on motivation instead of repetition.

Support and design. That is such a kinder and more useful way to look at a behavior.

And I think this is especially important for people with ADHD, because we often do better when things are visible, concrete and specific. Vague advice like just be more consistent. It's not helpful. But a framework that says, let's look at what's triggering the behavior, what's getting in the way. What would make it easier to repeat?

That is helpful. That gives you a path forward. It gives you something to adjust. And honestly, all ADHD support should work this way. Less blame, more troubleshooting, less pressure to prove yourself. More curiosity about what your brain actually needs in order to follow through.

Because when you understand that a system can fail without you being a failure, it becomes so much easier to keep experimenting, keep adjusting, keep building habits that actually fit into your life. So one of the most helpful ideas in atomic habits is that behavior is shaped so much by environment. And I think this is especially important for people with ADHD, because so many of us have spent years trying to manage everything with willpower.

We try to remember things in our head, push through resistance. We try to force ourselves to be consistent just because we said we would. And sometimes that works for a minute,

but it's usually not reliable. The environment around us matters a lot more than people think.

This book talks about making cues visible and obvious because the easier something is to see, the easier it is to remember and respond to to do it. This is huge for ADHD. Out of sight can really be out of mind if the thing that is supposed to support you is tucked away, hidden, buried in a drawer, or living only in your memory.

There's a good chance it's not going to happen consistently. But when the cue is right in front of you, it takes less effort to remember and less effort to get started.

I think this is one of the biggest mindset shifts people with ADHD can make. Instead of asking, why can't I just remember ask, how can I make this harder to forget? Instead of asking, why am I not doing this consistently? Ask, what in my environment is making this harder than it needs to be?

Because so often the problem is not you. It's that your setup is asking too much of you. That might look like putting something where you can trip over it, leaving a visual reminder in a place where the action needs to happen, opening it up before you need it, setting up tomorrow's task tonight, or making the first step so obvious that your brain does not have to go searching for it.

So those changes can seem small, but they matter. They reduce friction and make the cue stronger and give your brain something concrete to respond to. And I think people with ADHD often need more outside support than they've been taught to ask for. And I don't mean that in a negative way.

I mean, a lot of ADHD friendly strategies work because they take something that would otherwise stay in our head and put it somewhere outside of us. That's one reason tools like habit tracking, reminders, calendars, accountability, visual systems they can be so helpful they give the habit something to attach to outside of your memory alone.

When you track something, even in a very simple way, it becomes more visible. It's no longer just a vague intention floating around in your mind. You can actually see whether it happened. And that matters because ADHD can make it hard to hold on to patterns in your head over time. Tracking gives you something concrete. It helps you see progress, notice gaps, stay connected to what you're trying to build.

Accountability can help in a similar way. Not in a shame based way. Not in a way that makes you feel policed, but in a supportive way.

Sometimes, simply knowing that someone else is aware of what you're working on helps you hold that habit in place. It makes it more concrete. It creates a little more structure around something that's otherwise adrift.

And I think this is an important reframe for people with ADHD, because needing external structure is often treated like weakness, when really it can be very effective support. If something works better because you wrote it down, set it up visually, had someone check in with you, or built accountability around the system. It doesn't mean that you're less capable.

It means you understand what helps your brain stay connected to the habit, and that awareness is incredibly valuable. The other piece here is reward. One of the biggest problems with relying on motivation is that motivation changes. Some days you feel focused, energized, and ready to go, and other days everything feels harder.

And that's true for all the people. But I think it's especially true for those of us with ADHD. Interest can fluctuate, energy fluctuates. Urgency can drive us one day and disappear the next. So if a habit only happens when we feel like doing it, it's probably not going to happen consistently. And that's why I think one of the most useful parts of atomic habits is the idea that habits are most likely to stick when they feel satisfying and rewarding,

and I think that's such an important point.

A lot of ADHD struggles happen in the gap between what matters long term and what feels compelling right now.

We may absolutely care about the future outcome, but if the task in front of us feels boring, effortful, repetitive, or too delayed in the payoff, it can be very hard to engage with in the moment.

And it doesn't mean we're lazy. It means our brain responds strongly to what feels interesting, novel, urgent, or immediately rewarding. So if we want to have it to last, it helps to build in something that makes it feel better to do. That's one reason I like the idea of pairing a habit with something enjoyable. Maybe you only listen to a favorite podcast when you're cleaning.

Maybe you make your planning time feel more cozy and enjoyable instead of rigid and punishing. Maybe you create a little ritual around the habit that feels more inviting to you. The point is not to bribe yourself because you're incapable. The point is to work with your brain instead of against it, because you're certainly capable.

Every time I have a client who wants to get up earlier. And that's a lot of my clients. We're not only making it small and doable. By incrementally making that change, we're also figuring out how to make getting up more enjoyable. What is something you can do when you wake up that you just look forward to? Something that's fun?

Because a lot of supportive habits have delayed returns. You don't organize your calendar and instantly feel like your whole life is fixed. You don't go to bed one night on time and suddenly feel like a perfectly regulated person.

A lot of helpful habits pay off over time, and that can make them harder for ADHD brains to stick with. So adding some form of immediate satisfaction, even something small can help bridge that gap. It gives your brain a reason to come back before the long term benefits are obvious.

Another reason I think this book is so helpful for people with ADHD is because it really emphasizes making habits easier, not more impressive. That sounds simple,

I know a lot of what I'm saying is making it sound. I'm I'm kind of hearing it as as I'm saying it, but it's it's made it sound like we're not capable or we're less than or or something like that. And that is not the case when we are comparing ourselves to, let's say, the neurotypical people.

Instead of the neuro spacy people that we are, we are watching them go through our life on a habit basis. I watch my husband, for example, workout and take his supplements and do the things that he does on a daily basis, just without any kind of effort whatsoever. And those things, until I create a habit around them, take effort.

It is harder for me, and I've always felt that way. And I want to say that for those that feel the same way. I know, I hear that though. You guys email me about this. I hear it in social media messages. I hear it on consultation calls. I hear it with my clients. Life is harder for me than it is for other people.

And I will say you're not wrong. It is because they're running on habits and we are not. We are making decisions constantly and that's hard. And so I don't I don't want this to sound like we are small or we're less than or we're less capable. It's not not the case. It's just that creating these habits are going to be more challenging for us than it is for other people.

We're used to just doing things as we feel like it. We're used to kind of just going with the flow. It's probably a more positive. We put it and they're running on habits and that makes their life easier, and it makes our life harder. And it might be more fun sometimes.

And we can definitely have those days where we just let the habits go. Absolutely. But I notice with my clients that after they work with me for a little while and we start building these habits and structures and routines, and we're building up their executive function skills, and we're working on their mental models and we're, you know, putting those two things together.

I notice they're coming to me and they're saying on Saturdays and Sundays I feel like I don't know what to do with myself.

I feel uncomfortable, I feel like I need something, and what happens is we've built these habits over the week. You know, maybe it's my students, maybe it's my business builders, maybe it's my entrepreneurs. And we've built these habits over a week to get them to their goals.

And then we kind of like, let the weekends go. And I just kind of like on Saturday and Sunday, let them do whatever you want. And I oftentimes have them come back to me and say, I don't want to do whatever I

mean, they do do what they want. They are their boss, right? But I want to set up some sort of structure on the weekends as well.

And so what what they're feeling there is I've got my habits during the week and I've let go of them during the weekend, and that doesn't feel good. It feels hard. And so I just wanted to acknowledge that. So as we're going through this, I

I just think we're different. And we need to work differently with our brains. And that's where I think this book is extremely helpful. So let's let's kind of jump back in. So the stuff sounds simple, but it goes against a lot of the way that we're taught to think.

We we believe that if goals matter, they should be big. We should prove that we're serious. So instead of saying, I'm going to stretch for two minutes, we say, I'm going to go to work out for an hour every day. Instead of saying, I'm going to read one page, we say, I'm going to read a whole book this week, and then we don't follow through on this giant version, and then we feel like we failed.

But the truth is, for a lot of us with ADHD, the hardest part is not the habit itself. It's getting started. It's crossing that invisible line between intending to do something and actually doing it. And that's why I love the books focus on reducing friction and using things like the two minute rule.

The idea is to make a habit so easy to begin, that it no longer feels like this huge mountain your brain has to climb.

And that matters so much because activation is such a challenge for us. A task can be small and still feel enormous if it takes too much effort to begin. So when you shrink the habit down to something almost laughably doable, you're not lowering the value of the habit. You're lowering the barrier to entry. And for us, that can make all the difference.

Reading two pages might not sound impressive, but it's a lot more effective than planning on reading 20 pages and never opening the book. Putting your workout clothes on may seem tiny, but it's still a movement toward the habit, and it still counts.

And often, once you begin, it's so much easier to keep going. I think that's where people sometimes misunderstand small habits. They think the goal is this tiny version forever. But really, the tiny version is the doorway in. It's what helps you establish a pattern, reduce resistance, and create momentum. And once that habit exists, it can grow. But if you make the entry point too hard, you may never build a pattern at all.

So I think one of the most ADHD friendly questions you can ask is not what is the ideal version of this habit, but what is the easiest version I can actually repeat? What version still counts? What version can I do even on a low energy day, a chaotic day, or when my brain's not cooperating much because that version is most likely to become real

And in the long run, real is always more useful than ideal.

I think this is one of the most important parts of the conversation. For those of us with ADHD, because so much shame comes from how we measure progress. We don't just want things to work, we want them to work quickly. We want to try a system and have it click right away.

We want to build a routine and feel solid in it in a week or two. And when that doesn't happen, it's very easy to assume the problem is us.

We tell ourselves this if this were really going to work, it would have worked by now. If we were capable, it wouldn't be taking this long.

But I don't believe that that's true. I think habits can absolutely be more challenging for those of us with ADHD to develop. And there's often more friction in the beginning. More inconsistency, more forgetting, more restarting, more trial and error.

And I think you need to be honest about that. Not in a discouraging way, but in a compassionate way, because when we pretend it should be just as easy for us as it is for everyone, then we end up blaming ourselves for the extra effort that it takes.

And sometimes it does take longer. Sometimes the habit does not become natural quickly.

Sometimes you have to rebuild time after time before it actually sticks. And that does not mean you're failing.

It means you're not necessarily wired like the people you're comparing yourself to. And what if that's okay? What if the timeline is not the most important thing?

What are the better question is not how fast did I build this habit? But did I eventually build something that actually supports me? Because if the answer is yes, then I don't think in the end you're going to care how long it took to get there. I think this is a really important mindset shift for those of us with ADHD.

We have to stop using speed as the main measure of whether something is working. Slow progress is still progress. Repeated starts do not erase the fact that you're learning. Needing more support does not mean the habit is not real, and taking longer does not make the result less valuable. If anything, it might mean you had to build it more intentionally and with more awareness of what actually works for your unique brain.

So if you're someone who has tried to build habits and felt discouraged because it took longer than you think it should. I really want to say this clearly. Longer does not mean impossible. Longer does not mean it's not working. Longer does not mean you're not capable of change.

It may simply mean that your process may need more repetition, more patience, and more support then culture. Usually allows for. And that's okay. The goal is not to build habits on someone else's timeline. The goal is to build habits that truly help you live your best life. So when I look at atomic habits through the lens of ADHD, what stands out to me most is that this is really a book about reducing friction between what you want to do and what you actually do.

And for people with ADHD, that gap can feel enormous. We can feel that we care so deeply about something and struggle to start. We can know exactly what would help us and not follow through consistently. We can have the biggest and best intentions in the world, and still feel like daily life takes more effort than it should. That's why I think this conversation matters so much, because habits, when they're built in a way that actually works for your brain, can help close that space.

Not because habits make ADHD disappear now, because building them is always easy, but because they can make supportive behaviors easier to return to. They can create structure where there's usually chaos. They can give you something to lean on when your brain is tired, distracted, overwhelmed, or just not cooperating. And I think that's really the heart of why habits matter so much for ADHD.

They're not about becoming a perfect person. They're about making life more doable. So if there is one takeaway I want you to take with you today, it's this. Do not underestimate the power of a small habit that truly supports you. Do not dismiss a system just because it looks simple. Do not assume something is not working just because it's taking longer than you hoped.

The goal is not to force yourself into someone else's way of functioning. The goal is to build a system to make your life easier to follow through on. And if a habit helps you do that, even in a small way, that matters, that counts, and over time, then you can change more than you think. So are you getting my emails yet?

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