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85. Finding Flow Through Feng Shui: The Art of Harmonizing Your Life with Lisa Roche

• Serena Low, Introvert Coach for Quiet Achievers and Quiet Warriors

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In today’s episode of The Quiet Warrior Podcast, we dive deep into the transformative practice of Feng Shui with Lisa Roche, the founder of Nagare Life. Lisa is a Reiki Master, medical intuitive, and the host of Find Your Flow, and she’s here to share her expertise on harmonizing the energy in our homes to support personal well-being and growth.

Lisa takes us on a journey through her discovery of Feng Shui, how it can be integrated into a home to promote healing, and the power of intentional energy alignment. From her background as a musician to her unique approach as a Reiki Master, Lisa’s philosophy revolves around creating spaces that resonate with your energy and align with your body, mind, and soul.

In this episode, Lisa also shares the profound personal transitions that shaped her life, from overcoming near-death experiences to closing her successful studio business. She discusses the importance of self-care, the quiet yet powerful flow of energy, and how living authentically in alignment with our inner truth can help us thrive.

Tune in for a refreshing perspective on life, healing, and finding your flow in the midst of life’s chaos and uncertainty.

Key Highlights:

  • What is Feng Shui? Lisa explains how this ancient practice can harmonize the energy of your home to amplify abundance and support well-being.

  • The Role of Harmony: It’s not about balance; it’s about finding the syncopation in our relationships and living spaces that allows us to thrive individually and as a collective.

  • The Power of Transition: Lisa shares how personal hardships have been the catalyst for her growth and transformation.

  • Finding Flow in Daily Life: The practice of slowing down, focusing on the present moment, and aligning your energy with ease, creativity, and intention.

  • Empowerment in Helping Professions: What a healthy, empowering relationship looks like between practitioner and client, and why it's essential for clients to take responsibility for their own healing journey.


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Speaker 1:

Hi, I'm Serena Loh. If you're used to hearing that introverts are shy, anxious, antisocial and lack good communication and leadership skills, then this podcast is for you. You're about to fall in love with the calm, introspective and profound person that you are. Discover what's fun, unique and powerful about being an introvert, and how to make the elegant transition from quiet achiever to quiet warrior in your life and work anytime you want, in more ways than you imagined possible. Welcome. Welcome to another episode of the Quiet Warrior podcast. Today, our guest is Lisa Roche, the founder of Nagare Life, where she helps clients create healing sanctuaries in their homes with the art of feng shui. As a feng shui expert, reiki master, teacher, medical intuitive and channeler for transformative meditations, lisa excels at harmonizing energy. She's the host of the podcast Find your Flow and the contributing author of two books the Energy Medicine Solution and Born to Rise. Welcome, lisa Roche, to the Quiet Warrior podcast.

Speaker 2:

Thanks for having me. This is such a treat. Thank you.

Speaker 1:

You're very welcome. Now, lisa. The first question I have to ask you and I'm sure it's on the minds of the audience as well is what is feng shui and how did you come to do this work?

Speaker 2:

Oh well, traditionally speaking, feng shui is a Chinese practice of harmonizing the energy in your home to the energy of you, the person who lives there, and amplifying as much abundance as you possibly can. With traditional Feng Shui as a personal practice, mainly because I felt this urge. It was funny I had studio space, I had this beautiful studio space and I would lock the door. I would clean it and lock the door every day and then go home and I would come home to this beautiful home that just didn't feel the same. It didn't quite feel like me and I used to always say, gosh, I really wish that my home could feel like the studio, but it's very feminine over at the studio and I didn't want to force my husband and son to live in a very demure space. I wanted them to feel comfortable in the house as well. So I went back and forth like that for a couple of years, many years, and then it hit me wait a minute, the energy could be the same and I started researching the energy of a home. And I started researching the energy of a home and, as luck would have it or divine intervention, I stumbled upon Feng Shui and went that's it, that's the answer and I just did a deep dive and I just started to study it and because it's energy, because it's the energy of your home, Because it's energy, because it's the energy of your home, I started to think well, couldn't I feel my way through that?

Speaker 2:

As a Reiki practitioner, I'm attuned to feeling how energy flows. Couldn't I walk through a space and feel the energy Turns out? You can, you just have to practice. And so that's what I started doing, feeling what was appropriate for my home to actually be a healing space. So, to be very specific to healing the body, mind and soul, as opposed to just amplifying absolutely everything in life I wanted to heal. I wanted to challenge myself to see how much could my space influence my mindset, my heart set, my physical health of my cells, health of my blood, muscular structure, bone structure, all of it. I wanted to really challenge myself to see how much impact could my surroundings have on me body, mind, soul. Turns out it has a lot.

Speaker 1:

So I heard the word harmonize there, and I also heard the word harmonize there, and I also what they would. I heard the word heal, so that's does that summarize what this is all about? This is about healing energy. It's about harmonizing energy. It's about creating a space where all the occupants can feel comfortable for sure. And that also brings out the best in each person.

Speaker 2:

Exactly so that and that brings me to find your flow as well. Right, when you have, it's one thing for an individual to find their flow, it's a whole other for you to be living in a home with three other people and each of those people have their right, their divine right, to have their flow. And how can we harmonize that? So it had first begun with how can we balance that? How can the parents balance out with the children? How can the wife balance with the husband? How can the brother bounce with the sister? And then I thought, husband, how can the brother bounce with the sister?

Speaker 2:

And then I thought, because I'm a musician, I thought, wait a second, it's not about balancing, I've played in orchestras. It's not about balancing, it's about harmonizing. It's about finding the syncopation and the beauty in those off beats. And how can it all create a symphonic relationship in the home? And so that's what I started to equate with it being a sanctuary space, so that when you walked in, that's what you felt. You felt every note, every, every person and all of their specialties all coming together to create a family and to create a home.

Speaker 1:

It's funny you mentioned orchestras and being a musician. I was just watching this YouTube video last night of a performance of Benjamin Britten's the Young Person's Guide to the Orchestra, which my husband insists was a theme song of ETV, which I've never heard of, but apparently it was very, very popular in maybe the 60s and 70s, and so that was the theme song, and I was watching how, in certain sections, each instrument became the focus. It was like doing a solo right just for that instrument. But the rest of the time all you see is a mass of people. But everybody knows their part. Everybody knows when to come in, when to be silent, they're watching each other, they're reading the score, and so there is that beautiful dance. It's a very disciplined one, because people have to know their part first in order to be able to be in sync to that level, but at the same time there is also the opportunity to shine.

Speaker 1:

It could be just a few seconds it could be a minute, but when that moment comes, that person needs to be able to step in and be prepared to amplify their part.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and what's interesting is when the other performers back off, it leaves this space that if you really listen to an orchestra, you never hear silence, unless it's a very deliberate silence. What you hear is the reverberation of every other instrument blending in with the one who is standing out, the one who is shining, and I think that that's beautiful. I just think that that's the most beautiful thing. Beautiful. I just think that that's the most beautiful thing. So when you think of it in terms of a home and in terms of a family, if it's one person's turn to shine and you have the reverb of that love and support from everybody else, oh my God, they get to soar. I mean, it's the most beautiful relationship. It really really is. You say it's like a dance.

Speaker 2:

When I played in orchestras, it was like breathing. It was more than a dance. It was like breathing and everybody breathed at the same time. More than a dance, it was like breathing and everybody breathed at the same time. And even when you were silent, you were still breathing. You still had this active participation to the very life of what was being put together. And it's the exact same thing in your home. You're still an active participant in how your life is coming together so beautiful.

Speaker 1:

Would you say, by extension, that that is something that we can work on outwards, into our groups, our communities, into society in general?

Speaker 2:

Absolutely so. The one aspect of Feng Shui that I really love is that it first starts with the individual right. The person who is going to lead the way on the Feng Shui journey has an intention members of the family or whoever lives in the home to find out what is our collective journey, what is our goal. And then you set up the home, and each section of the home represents a section, an area of your life. So in feng shui there is a gua dedicated to community. There is a Gua dedicated to community, dedicated to new relationships. So you start very singularly, much like the quiet warrior's journey. You start very singularly, quietly, in solitude, to figure out who you are, what you want, what you want in your life, and it grows to include just those around you. And then it grows to include your community, and then it grows to include your town, your state, your country, the world.

Speaker 1:

You start to see the aspects of you as part of the whole. I love that. It always starts with the individual and it has to start from someone who is seeking someone who is willing to do this work, and then it ripples outwards. So when this person, the seeker, is embarking on this journey, there comes a point where you have to let go of things, you have to move on from things. It's a transition and there will be numerous transitions throughout the journey. Talk to us about transitions. What has that been like for you?

Speaker 2:

so of course some have been easier than others. The hardest ones have the most impact. For sure I've had absolute stopping points in my life that have forced me to become something else, forced me to pivot and to transition. I had a near-death experience after surgery, that the whole world comes to a screeching halt and you figure out who you are, who in your life is there to love you and support you and who isn't. But very quickly there's a clean slate and then you move forward. I had another one where I had a spinal injury and in an instant I lost the ability to walk, to see, to hear, to speak, to think and very again, very quickly the world comes to a close and you have to either rise and figure it out or give up, and I had I did. I had that moment of begging for everything to end, only to have it sort of reborn again into. This is what your life is going to look like and for your listeners, my life now, nine years after the fact, I hike every day. I see perfectly fine, I hear perfectly fine. I'm stronger than I've ever been, and it was because of that transition than I've ever been, and it was because of that transition that stop focus what's important. My health is important. I completely forgotten about that. How I show up in my family as someone who can receive love instead of someone who tries to run the roost and control everything that completely changed the state of vulnerability to accept and to receive completely changed, completely changed me in who I am as a person. And then my recovery. I had to. I had to map that out because the doctors they had written me off and they had said this was as good as it was going to get. So I took it upon myself to map out a recovery process with PT and all of my knowledge and that's a whole other episode. But I learned empowerment in that moment. I learned that I was smarter than I thought. I had much more knowledge base than I had given myself credit for. And once I was back up and running, I started my business again and my studio. I reopened my studio and it was thriving. So everything leads to where it's supposed to go.

Speaker 2:

And then one day I woke up and I do meditation every day and in meditation I heard it was time to close the studio and that was probably just as impactful as being put in a wheelchair. It was so confusing because I had really thought I had reached my pinnacle. This is the best, lisa, there is. Where do I go from here except down? That was my assumption. Do I go from here except down? Right, that was my assumption. But I also had this very strong feeling that I was being guided towards something. I didn't know what it was. I didn't need to know what it was, all I needed was to trust that it was there. So I closed my studio. I mean, yeah, I closed my studio and it took a couple of months. But I woke up and I realized I was really grateful to have closed my studio and I had made it through COVID and I was, I mean, it was hugely successful.

Speaker 2:

But what I realized when I woke up that day, about two months after closing, I realized that I had been tired. I was tired and I didn't realize I was tired because I loved what I did. It fed my soul, it really did so. To come to this understanding that I was tired, I was like but if you're tired, don't you resent the thing that makes you tired? And I hadn't, I hadn't. But sometimes you don't recognize you're tired until you put the weight down and what I realized was I had these beautiful clients who were an amazing, transformative experience for me, but I was carrying them and that was tiring. What I wanted, what I've always wanted, what I still want for people, is their empowerment, for them to be able to look at me or have a conversation with me and go. I could feel that in my life I could achieve something in my life. I can do that in my life. I want to inspire, not carry. And that lesson and that's a huge lesson, right, and I never would have learned that had I not closed my studio.

Speaker 1:

How long had you been running the studio at the point when you heard the call to close?

Speaker 2:

it was 10 years oh it's a long time.

Speaker 1:

It's a long time, and you carried it through covid as well, which is not easy at all to do no, I'm telling you, I had the most amazing clientele.

Speaker 2:

I didn't lose not one client. They bought gift cards they never used. They bought my retail and asked if I could just leave it in a baggie outside the door. They kept me afloat for the three months I had to be closed and then, when I announced that I was reopening, my schedule filled up to a three month wait list. It was incredible.

Speaker 1:

How did your clients respond when you said you were closing?

Speaker 2:

Lots of tears, a lot of tears. I mean, I had one gentleman who said what's it going to cost? I'll pay anything to keep you open. I'll be your only client, just stay open. And I said to him as beautiful as that is, I just I can't. There was a calling stronger than me that kept telling me you have to close, you have to close, you have to close. So my love for every single one of those clients was not strong enough to deny that. I don't know that truth. That had to happen. It's the only way I can describe it. It was stronger than me, it was bigger than me.

Speaker 1:

I think that's something very important for those of us who do any kind of caring work to realize, because you said you want to inspire your clients, you don't want to carry them.

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

And also, you know, even after you've made a decision that you know in your heart and in your spirit is the right one to do, there will be so many well-meaning voices that will try to deter you for a good reason, because you are doing good work, because they recognize the value of what you are contributing and they want to encourage you.

Speaker 1:

And yet you say that there was something bigger and stronger that was calling to you, a higher truth, and you had to honor that truth by closing. So how long did you sit with this higher truth? How long did it take you to make peace with that part of your life? It was 10 years.

Speaker 2:

It was 10 years. It didn't take me long, it really didn't. Like I said, it was just a couple of months. But what I? I made a practical and conscious decision to be in nature every single day. It's still a part of my self-care practice. Every day went out in nature and one day I was up in the mountains and there was this huge waterfall. And in the feng shui world, water is deeply cleansing. It cleanses, especially a waterfall. It cleanses in a split second. If you stand there and you feel the energy wash through you, there's peace to be had in just seconds.

Speaker 2:

So it was this family affair, the four of us. I said can we go to the mountains and go find these waterfalls? I saw this ad for these waterfalls and they said sure, absolutely, let's go. So we go hiking up there and we find the waterfalls. I saw this ad for these waterfalls and they said, sure, absolutely, let's go. So we go hiking up there and we find the waterfalls and I say, can you give me a minute? And of course they say, yeah, of course, of course. So everybody backs off and I went up to this waterfall and all I had to do was stand there, close my eyes and feel the spray of water. I close my eyes and feel the spray of water and I said and there it is Okay. So now I've been cleared, let's see what comes. Let's see what comes my way and what came your way.

Speaker 2:

So the very next day, actually the very next day, I had a very good friend call me and she said she wanted to create a call for women with cancer, a sort of support call. And I said I said I'm very interested in helping in any way I can, but I cannot be the caretaker on the line, can't show up as an expert or a practitioner. I cannot carry anyone anymore. This is something that I've learned and I have to honor it. And she said absolutely do whatever you want to do. I just you there. And she was, she had been a client of mine. So that's why I had to draw that line and be very clear of what I could give, what I had to offer. And I had been channeling meditations, uh, for years as a as a Reiki master teacher. It was just part of the practice as I was teaching and certifying students. So what I did was sit with the callers and started creating these beautiful, beautiful meditations that by the end of the call and I led these meditations for over a year, close to two years and at the end of the call these women would say is there any way that I could get a copy of that meditation? Is there any way to record it anywhere. And we were like, no, no, it's not. But that led us to how about we record them? And I said, well, I do have them written. I, you know, I could give them a written form, but again, something kept stopping me from wanting to send something. Every time I would go to say how about I just copy paste this? Something would tell me no, don't do that. And I've become very adept at honoring what I'm told to do. The guidance that I receive, it's very strong and I go okay. So, whatever this is, it's in my best interest. I don't care why, it's just in my best interest. So I kept backing off from sharing all of these meditations for two years. I kept backing off of it until two months ago. And two months ago again, I woke up and it was start sharing the meditations. Okay, great, I don't know how, but okay, I'm game. Yes, yes, I say yes, I'll share, I'll share the meditations. And then I heard okay, so go to Riverside, you are figuring that out and create a new podcast. This is what it's going to be called. And lo and behold, riverside makes it so easy. You record it, uploads to Spotify. Of course, it's easy, right, you create a little logo and you do all of the things and it's done, lickety, split, and I went that's really easy. And that was two months ago.

Speaker 2:

And then I had this fear of what if I'm not enough? All I have are these meditations. And what if that's not enough? And what if people don't want to hear them? And what if, what if, what if?

Speaker 2:

And then I went and how about I just do it? How about I stop worrying about all these what ifs? And how about I just fulfill what I've been told to do, what I know I have to do, which is just share meditations? So I started to do that and I don't know, maybe four days after I started, I had a friend say we should do a podcast together and I said, honey, you should say that because I just started.

Speaker 2:

One Hasn't gone live yet. But I just started figuring out how to create a podcast and she said great, let's have some fun, I'll be your first guest. And I said, okay, then here we go, and Kathy Wolf was my very first guest to talk about craniosacral therapy and we got to reminisce about how much she's helped me, what the modality is all about, and it was a very easy conversation with an easy guest in my wheelhouse. So I hit publish and it's been off to the races ever since. The meditations are doing really well. It's only been two months and my fear of what if? What if no one wants to talk to me? What if I have never have a guest? I'm fully booked with guests until September.

Speaker 2:

It's just, I'm having so much fun with it and I I look back and I think I would never be here this version of me doing what I'm doing, loving my life as much as I love my life if I hadn't trusted in those transitions and if I hadn't chosen enjoy my happiness, my fulfillment, my care for self over that of anyone and anything else.

Speaker 2:

And when I look back I'm like well, yeah, I had to learn the hard way to pay attention to my own well-being over my children. It's a hard one for a mother, hard one for a father, but I had to choose my own well-being over being a wife, over being an employer, over being a business owner, over being a caretaker, over being anything to anyone, over being a friend, a daughter or a sister. It has to start with self and then you know. And everybody says you can't pour from an empty cup, right, and they've got all these sayings and you say them and they roll off the tongue but nobody really sits and thinks about that and how profound that is until you're forced to. And I mean I even had a health coach at one point say if you don't make time for your health, your health will make you make time. Right, it's a profound statement, but you're like nah, it's marketing jargon, whatevs. And like you, don't really think about it all that much until you have to.

Speaker 2:

So my mission is to inspire, empower and educate so that every person on this planet can find their own flow, meaning they can find their own peace, their own well-being, figure out what works for them, so that they never have to be forced into learning these lessons of the importance of self and from that empowered place. And quite often it looks so quiet, it looks so still so quiet. It looks so still because peace is quiet, peace is still Peace doesn't have to scream I'm peaceful, peace just is. It's ease, it's flow. You have to do is be, that's it.

Speaker 1:

It sounds so simple, but I know so many people who struggle with this because it just sounds like it needs to be more I to do, more I need to push, I need to work harder. It's it's not a right for me to just sit and be. That's for retirees, or that's for people who you know can't work anymore, or that's for lazy people, or I'll sleep when I'm dead. I've heard people, so many people, say variations of this. I remember my grandmother very rarely ever sitting down, always doing, doing, and it made me feel guilty. When I sat down, even as an adult, even going to the doctor for a valid reason, I had to question myself Do I, am I meant to be here? Shouldn't I just power on and just put up with it, all that discomfort, and just carry on working?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, simple. Simple is not easy. Something is very simple. The solution is very simple To pause, to just pause and listen and observe, to witness your own habits, your own behaviors. So simple, but it is the hardest thing that we will ever do, because we've been conditioned to go, go, go.

Speaker 2:

We've been taught that progress equates to being busy, constantly doing and creating and forcing things right. Fake it till you make it and push beyond the pain. There's all of these sayings. It's insanity. So the hardest thing is to block all of that out. The hardest thing is to put yourself into a cone of silence and go. Nope, I'm going to ignore all of that around me and I'm just going to focus on my goal, and my goal is me being the very best me. And the funny thing is is, if you can do that, you wind up showing up and being able to accomplish so much more than you could ever even dream. You're in a constant state of creativity, constant state of ignition and inspiration because, simply because you've blocked out all of that distraction, all the noise. Blocked out all of that distraction, all the noise, all the loudness, all the activity, and you get yourself in alignment with ease, efficiency, creativity and boom. Your life winds up looking exactly like your dream, it's. It really is that simple, and it really is that difficult.

Speaker 1:

Thanks for acknowledging both sides of it oh absolutely. You did mention the the role of the helping professional, the therapist, the coach, in helping people get unstuck that you can inspire but you cannot carry. So what should a healthy therapeutic relationship look like? What should clients be prepared to adjust to or be ready for before they step into that kind of inner work?

Speaker 2:

that kind of inner work. Well, I think, first and foremost, a loving, responsible, empowering, caregiver, coach, practitioner. They should be highlighting the work that you have to do. If someone tells you, work with me and I'll make you feel fabulous in an hour, work with me and your life will completely change, I would run, run, don't walk, run away from that kind of practitioner, because that's um, that's more of an ego of I need to be the hero, I need to be the savior, and instead an empowerment coach says I'll be your mirror and I will tell you the truth.

Speaker 2:

I will tell you what you most likely don't want to give you some homework to do, because that's going to be your solution. And then it's up to you are you going to do the homework or are you not? And before I ever took on a client, I always said and if you're not willing to do your homework, then I am not the practitioner for you, because I expect my clients to do their homework. I expect my clients to come in ready. I don't want to deal with what we were dealing with last week. I want to deal with what's new. Always, I want you to make progress. I want you to not come here. I don't, you know. I want you to be able to graduate and be proud of yourself and say I don't need to be here anymore. I will love you always, but you will love you in a much more profound way if you're not reliant on me. So I think for and I really do think that humanity is waking up to the point of wait a second. I think life can be different. I think maybe I could align my passion with my purpose. I think my day-to-day life could be very different. And these people who are waking up to this sort of aha slash, confusion are trying to find people like yourself, people like me, guides who can be honest with them. So I would say to the people looking for practitioners, coaches, be ready to do the work and I don't mean that lightly, I really don't. It's going to get ugly. You're going to need to consistently and constantly say what is my part in this? How can I grow? How can I change? What does this say about me?

Speaker 2:

There's a tendency to slip into victimhood so easily, martyrdom so easily. But the second you feel that you're saying yes, but so-and-so, did this, that and the other thing? Yes, but there was no way out of that situation, yes, but I'm stuck. The second you start saying that you have to stop yourself. That's like the best advice I could ever give. Stop yourself and go wait a second. What can I be learning from this situation? How can I be receiving it differently? How can I see myself in this differently? And that starts actually neurologically rewiring your brain to look for solutions. And how do you get out of a hole? But only to find a way to either climb, build a ladder or start screaming right. But if you're not willing to say how the hell did I get in this hole, then what's the point? You're going to end up back in it.

Speaker 1:

So it's not a work to take on lightly. It's not a fix. It's definitely not a quick fix. I think it's one of the hardest things I've ever done to even start on this journey, because once you're in it, you are in it Because things start to change when you're serious. And yes, you can turn back, yes, you can drop everything and say I want to go back to my original default setting. But then you will come again back to that threshold or to that turning point and you realize I have got to keep going. The only way forward is to keep going, to take responsibility for my own growth. So growth is a choice, right? Growth doesn't necessarily come to everybody who does this work. I think you have to choose and you have to recommit. Would you say that's right To keep showing up for yourself.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely, again and again and again choose self, choose self. I like to equate it to being hit with a frying pan in the face. Right, that wake up moment is usually a frying pan to the face, something that hurts, and it gets your attention and you have no choice but to pay attention. And then you go okay, what can I do to never get hit in the face with a frying pan again? Right, I could move to the right, simple right. Except maybe there's a wall there and you have to push the wall out of the way, right. So, not easy but simple. Step to the right and you make progress and you feel growth, and you face another challenge after challenge after challenge, and it's exhausting and it is daunting, and you think I could give up.

Speaker 2:

I could give up, I could shut it, shut all of this down, shut down my senses. I don't see it, I don't, I won't see life for what it is. I won't listen to what people have to say, I won't feel anything. I can shut it all down again and you can try. You can try because at some moment, though, you're going to say what's worse. Because at some moment, though, you're going to say what's worse, do I go back and continuously now consciously choose to get hit in the face with a frying pan. Yes, please hit me again. No, now you're like.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so that's stupid. I've made all this progress. I'm not going back to the beginning, but it's hard and it's and it's tiring and it's exhausting. So to that I say then you make your steps smaller and you lower your benchmark, because there are going to be days where a win is simply waking up, and I can say that from experience. You open your eyes and you say I live to see another day. That's a win. I'm not going to get out of my pajamas, I'm not going to wash my hair, I'm not going to wash my face, I'm not going to do anything, and maybe I'm going to eat complete shit for the whole day. Okay, go ahead, have at it and tomorrow try to be a little bit better. Lower your expectations. Right, we're not going to always hit it out of the park every single blessed moment and experience of our days, but you can wake up.

Speaker 1:

That's a win, that is so encouraging and so comforting to hear, because a lot of personal development talks about massive transformation, and that has never sat right with me, because I know those days where waking up, where doing anything, where getting simple things done, that's all you have energy for, that's all you have capacity for, and there shouldn't be any guilt, any self-judgment, any condemnation about that's not enough. I should do better. Why am I so? So you know, insert word derogatory word there and then comparing ourselves with how others are doing, oh, that's a beast, isn't it? That's the harshest thing we could ever do to ourselves, because we really have no idea what anybody else is going through.

Speaker 1:

I think our hands are full just living our own lives and figuring out our own path forward. So let's not be cruel to ourselves and do that other thing. Just focus on one micro step at a time. Lower the standards if we need to Be kind to ourselves, be compassionate with ourselves, be gentle on those days where it feels gray, don't want to go outside, don't even want to walk in nature, but at the same time, I think also knowing that we actually are very blessed already. We're already surrounded by all these amazing resources, voices, books, podcasts, guides we have so much at our fingertips, but we don't have to do it all at once. We can try this thing today, that thing tomorrow and create a practice for ourselves that actually flows for us, right?

Speaker 2:

Yes, yeah, that's what I call the buffet. It's a buffet of healing, and you come up to the buffet and you take what looks enticing to you, what would you enjoy doing, what works for you, and sometimes you take something that looked like it was going to be awesome, doesn't quite taste the way that it was supposed to taste or the way you thought it would great. Don't eat it. Move on to the next thing. It's not not the end of the world. There are so many options, so many options, but the only ones that work are the ones that you resonate with, the ones that make you feel gooey inside. If you don't feel that it's not for you, and that's okay, that's okay. Move on to the next.

Speaker 1:

So it's okay to sample, it's okay to try. It's okay to sample, it's okay to try, it's okay to say oh my god, I would hope so yes, I'm a huge tasting menu kind of gal.

Speaker 2:

I um, you know, the only the only way that I can actually do like a buffet is a bite of this and a bite of that very small, Otherwise you're too full and you start to feel sick. It's too much. So I love the less is more. I love it. When I worked with private clients, they thought I was insane because I would give physical activity as homework and that was my specialty. And I would say I want you to lift a bottle of water, just a single bottle of water. I'd like you to lift that four times. That's it. Put it down, walk away, you're done.

Speaker 2:

And they would say you're crazy, that will have zero impact. And I would say not if it's done right, that will have zero impact. And I would say not if it's done right, not if it's done right. So I would show them exactly how to lift a bottle of water or exactly how to get a glass out of a cabinet or a plate or a fork or whatever. And they would say but it doesn't weigh that much, Like it doesn't have to. It doesn't have to. That's not the point. The point is something tactile for you to feel, so that your muscles go oh, we're going to work.

Speaker 2:

And then, when you work them systematically, consciously, in an inspired way, you see massive amounts of change in four movements. And then I would say and if you feel overjoyed to have done those four movements, oh go crazy, add two more, but then that's it, that's it. And the next day, if you do six and they are that, every single one of them make you feel great I want you to stop at six, that's it. Don't do any more. Send me a text. I'll tell you when you can increase to eight, because it has much more impact. Everything in life has much more impact. It has meaning in life has much more impact. It has meaning If there's intention with it. Your body responds, your mind responds, your soul responds, your space responds, Everything responds to focused intention.

Speaker 1:

I guess my final question to you, lisa, would be where are you going next with Nagari Life? What is the thing you're working on at the moment? Series that will be on the podcast and in the episode.

Speaker 2:

I even say drum roll please, because it's the culmination. It is a. It's an entire series that's going to be dedicated to Feng Shui and making it very simple. It doesn't need to be some glamorous, mystical activity, magic in your home. Nope, we're going to make it very simple, very efficient. And the nice thing is starting from.

Speaker 2:

I don't normally do things like in a rigid order, but there are things you want to set the foundation for your home properly. So the first few episodes will be very in order, and I'm not usually like that, but for this I say do things in order. So, nagare Life. I've worked with private clients. I've worked with designers and architects and contractors, but I feel like this very intentional way of setting your space should be could be used by everyone everywhere. So when I tell you that things move very quickly, when you're aligned with what it is that your goal, with what you're called to do, things move very, very quickly. I think I outlined the first nine episodes in um in an hour last week of just typing it all out, knowing exactly what I was going to talk about and when I was going to talk about it, and today, this afternoon in fact, I just recorded the very first episode. So that's what's next with Nagari Life, the podcast. Find your Flow nagari life.

Speaker 1:

The podcast find your flow is now welcoming nagari life to it and I'm excited about that. I'm excited for your listeners as well.

Speaker 1:

We'll make sure to include all the links in the show notes so people can follow you there and start subscribing and listening, and that brings us beautifully like full circle we started talking about feng shui and we ended up talking about feng shui, the wind and the water and all the elements and the harmony of energy within ourselves first, and then with our outer environment and with the people around us. So that is a beautiful way to to wrap up. So really thank you today for coming on the Quiet Warrior podcast and sharing all these insights with all of us.

Speaker 2:

Thank you for having me. This is a joy.

Speaker 1:

Thank you, You're very welcome. So thank you for listening to the Quiet Warrior podcast. If you enjoyed today's episode with Lisa Roche, make sure to subscribe to the podcast so you get future updates and leave us a five-star rating so that the Quiet Warrior podcast can get in front of more introverts and quiet achievers around the world. See you on the next episode. I'm so grateful that you're here today. If you found this content valuable, please share it on your social media channels and subscribe to the show on your favorite listening platform. Together, we can help more introverts thrive. To receive more uplifting content like this, connect with me on Instagram at Serena Lo Quiet Warrior Coach. Thank you for sharing your time and your energy with me. See you on the next episode.