The Quiet Warrior Podcast with Serena Low

130. How to End the Brain Hijack and Reclaim Emotional Safety with Diane McDowell

Serena Low, Introvert Coach for Quiet Achievers and Quiet Warriors

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Serena is joined by Diane McDowell, a therapist-turned-coach and leading expert in emotional safety. Diane is the creator of the Brain to Heart Code, a neuroscience-backed method designed to interrupt what she calls the brain hijack—the unconscious survival response that turns moments of connection into self-protection.

Together, Serena and Diane explore why highly sensitive and emotionally intelligent people often over-accommodate, people-please, or shut down in relationships—and why traditional advice around “better communication” often misses the real issue entirely.

This episode is a powerful invitation to stop outsourcing your sense of safety, reconnect with your body, and reclaim your emotional sovereignty—without fixing, forcing, or over-intellectualising your way through discomfort.


What You’ll Learn in This Episode

  • Why emotional safety is a biological need, not a communication skill
  • How the brain hijack prevents you from accessing the tools you already know
  • The hidden cost of people-pleasing and over-accommodation for highly sensitive people
  • Why overthinking is often an attempt to escape bodily sensations—not a lack of insight
  • How to become the “wise watcher” and respond instead of react
  • Why sitting with discomfort—rather than fixing it—is what creates real relief
  • How unprocessed emotions accumulate in the body and shape present-day reactions
  • The difference between mindset work and true nervous system rewiring
  • How to reclaim emotional safety without needing your partner—or anyone else—to change


Key Themes We Explore

  • Emotional safety and nervous system regulation
  • Highly sensitive people and overstimulation
  • People-pleasing as a survival response
  • Anxiety, overthinking, and body-based awareness
  • Emotional responsibility and relational agency
  • Why awareness + presence leads to release


Resources Mentioned

Brain to Heart Mini Course & Quiz
Diane’s 20-minute introductory training designed to help you identify your specific brain hijack pattern and begin restoring emotional safety from the inside out.

https://www.powerfulquestionscoaching.com/the-brain-to-heart-mini-course


Invitation from Serena

If you’re ready to be seen, heard, and promoted without performing extroversion, the trauma-informed S.E.E.N. Coaching Program is your next step.
Learn how to lead, communicate, and show up from a place of safety and sustainability.


Book your S.E.E.N. diagnostic session at info@serenalow.com.au.

Work with Serena Low at serenalow.com.au. 

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Meet Diane And The Brain Hijack

SPEAKER_00

Our guest today is a therapist-turned coach, leading expert in emotional safety, and the creator of the Brain to Heart Code, a neuroscience-backed method to end what she calls the brain hijack, the unconscious reflex that turns connection into self-protection. She helps emotionally intelligent, ambitious individuals end emotional disconnection and rebuild deep, honest connection from the inside out without years of therapy burnout or needing their partner to change. Welcome, Diane McDowell to the Quiet Warrior Podcast. Thank you. Thank you, Serena.

From Cult Upbringing To People Pleasing

SPEAKER_00

Diane, could I ask you to share with us first your own story and how you come to do this work?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. So I've been a therapist since 1999, and I actually kind of got into this field because I was raised in a religious cult from the age of zero to 14. And then when it fell apart, um I have dyslexia. So I didn't do school very well. I we were homeschooled and I really had never been schooled because they couldn't figure out how to school me. So one of the things that I think really contributed to my sensitivity and my learning to read other people was a lack of book understanding. Because I didn't um do well with academics, I excelled in reading people and accommodating so that people would like me. So one of the things I learned to do very young was people please and be liked by everybody, um, which served me at the time, but didn't serve me later. And then when I was 14, that all fell apart and we left. And I continued to make friends and um connect with people by reading other people and accommodating myself to fit what they wanted, what made them happy. Um, and because I was highly sensitive, not as sensitive as like my son and other people in my life, but because I was highly sensitive, it was very easy for me to read other people and adjust myself for what they wanted.

What Highly Sensitive Really Means

SPEAKER_00

When you say highly sensitive, for the benefit of those listeners who may not be so familiar with the term, what are you referring to, actually?

SPEAKER_02

So there's, I actually have a lot of my clients take the quiz, but there's a lot of things, for example, highly sensitive people tend to be extra sensitive to light, to noise, and high-intensity environments. Um, a lot of highly sensitive people don't like to be in public. Our world is kind of set up for a loud, uh, more um attention-seeking people. And similar to introverts, but not the same. Highly sensitive people get overstimulated and they want to shut down or go to a corner and have quiet so they can reground themselves. So um highly sensitive things could be like tags. Like some highly sensitive people are very sensitive to tags on their clothes or a tightness of the clothes or a lot of light, a lot of noise. A lot of highly sensitive people don't do great with caffeine because they're already aren't on edge. And then adding caffeine makes them even more so. Or even with alcohol, it can have a not great side effect. So highly sensitive is a it's not like a one definition, but a lot of times you can find a quiz and take a quiz that will help you get an idea of do I have areas that I'm highly sensitive? Not all people are sensitive in all the ways.

SPEAKER_00

I understand. I think what you're saying is sensitive in the sense of feeling things very deeply. So these external stimuli, for instance, can be too much or the senses.

SPEAKER_02

Yes. And what can happen when it's too much is either you shut down or you learn to accommodate other people, over-accommodate essentially.

SPEAKER_00

And why do people over-accommodate? What is what is at the root of that?

SPEAKER_02

It's feeling uncomfortable. Like if I'm overstimulated and I can't go shut down and regenerate or kind of protect myself from it, then I want to make sure everybody else around me is calmer so that I feel better. If you're angry and you're yelling and it's too much for me and I'm overstimulated, then I'm gonna do what I can to make you calm down so that I can feel better.

How Sensitivity Shapes Relationships

SPEAKER_00

How does this play out in relationships?

SPEAKER_02

All relationships. If somebody is more sensitive, that's what often happens is if I am sensitive and you don't tend to be, and you are yelling or you're loud, and I actually teach my clients not to say you're yelling because that's a perception. That's not, but it's what I teach my clients to say is you are too intense for me right now. So it's because if I say you're yelling at me, they can say, No, I'm not yelling. Who decides whether it's yelling or not? But if I could, if I say this is too intense for me right now. Um, so ask your question again, because I think I forgot.

SPEAKER_00

Actually, I forgot the question as well.

SPEAKER_02

How does this pertain? I think you said something like, how does this pertain to be able to do that?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, this is relationships. Yes.

SPEAKER_02

Yes. So if one person is louder than the other or more intense or more aggressive, then what can often happens is a person who's highly sensitive will give in, accommodate. And basically, what happens is I'll do anything you want to make the calm come back because my nervousness system needs calm.

SPEAKER_00

Right. So my nervousness is. I agree when I don't really agree. I'm doing this to protect myself. I'm doing this to feel safe. So this is about emotional safety, which I know you talk a lot about. So what is is emotional safety something that all of us are wired to want, but we meet it in different ways.

Emotional Safety And Outsourcing Power

unknown

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

I I believe that everybody is designed for emotional safety. We need it. Um, but what often happens is relationship, and this is what I call the brain hijack. What often will happen is I look to someone else for my emotional safety. I want you to behave a certain way so that I can feel emotionally safe. But if you don't, then I don't feel emotionally safe. So we outsource it to someone else. So it's really important that we learn how to create our own emotional safety. Or what will happen is what we were talking about a minute ago is I need you to calm down. So I'm gonna people please you. I'm gonna tell you yes when I don't really mean yes, so that you'll calm down so that my nervous system can feel safe.

SPEAKER_00

So, what you're saying is I need to reclaim my ownership of emotional safety. I have I have outsourced it, I've given away my power. Now I need to take it back. I need to take responsibility for myself and set some boundaries or communicate in a different way.

SPEAKER_02

Yes. But what I actually teach is instead of, yes, it is somewhat setting boundaries, but it's an internal thing. It's what I learned to do. So what when I call it the brain hijack is what happens is our brain starts to see the other person as an enemy. It's it's it's because our brain is designed to protect us and keep us safe. So when somebody starts threatening that safety in our brain, our brain will think that our partner who we love is dangerous. And so we start to behave that way, we start to act that way. So it's not just boundaries, it's really this internal grounding where we learn how to be like, I've got this unsafe. My partner is not trying to hurt me. They're expressing themselves. So we learn how to connect with our body and stay present in our body instead of going to our head and going, how can I make this stop? So it's really about finding your own way. And that's what I teach people a lot of like, how do I make myself feel safe as long as I physically am safe, as long as somebody's truly not hurting me? How do I make myself feel safe and not expect them to change so that I can feel safe?

SPEAKER_00

And what are some ways someone listening to this can start creating that their own sense of safety?

Becoming The Wise Watcher

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

The biggest thing that I start with is what I call becoming the wise watcher. And you step outside yourself and you it this is the part of you that can watch without getting hijacked. You can watch what's happening as a noticer. And one of the things that can kind of help is start using the phrase like, I'm noticing they're loud. I'm noticing my body getting tense. I'm noticing. So you become the observer of it. And when you say I'm noticing, that separates you from the experience of it a little bit so you can see it clearly. So becoming the watcher of it and start putting, I'm noticing or I'm watching this and observe the symptoms in your body or the the voice you're hearing them.

SPEAKER_00

So what you're saying is separate yourself, become that observer, because that's a neutral position. There's no emotional attachment. And from that viewpoint, then there is a different kind of wisdom or perspective that comes up.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, a hundred percent. When you can become the noticer, then you get to choose how you react or choose how you respond. But what happens is we're in reaction mode. We're like danger, danger. Like literally, our brain is going, danger, danger. And so we're acting like we're in danger, but we're really not in danger. And highly sensitive people are very um prone to this because their sense of danger is much quicker to activate. Yes, being hyper-vigilant because if I'm already sensitive to the noise and the light and the tone and micro expressions in people's faces, if I'm already over more sensitive than other people tend to be, then all those things are magnified in my brain. My brain goes, dang, as soon as I see one of those, a pause before somebody answers, an expression on their face that kind of I'm sensitive to, then I'm gonna go into fight, flight, or freeze or fawn much quicker.

Anxiety And Overthinking Explained

SPEAKER_00

Is this also to do with overthinking? Is there a pattern? Is there some kind of overlap there?

SPEAKER_02

I would say yes, but I wouldn't be careful because overthinking, depending, is an anxiety kind of thing. And with anxiety. So highly sensitive people tend to overthink, but there is also a component of it that's anxiety. And what happens is a lot of times people will say, when I'm anxious, I overthink. And here's the it's a little, it's not quite that. What actually happens is when I'm feeling anxiety sensations in my body, I want to escape them. So I go to my brain to escape and I think and I ruminate and I think about all the possible problems that could happen and try to solve for them to escape the sensations in my body. So anxiety and worrying and thinking are not one and the same. We use worrying and thinking to escape the sensations, the discomfort in our body.

SPEAKER_00

Right. So then what is helpful to alleviate the discomfort in the body?

SPEAKER_02

What I'm gonna say, a lot of people aren't thrilled about. You don't. You stay present with it. You and that's where you become the watcher of it, and you notice it, and you're like, I'm noticing my heart is racing, I am noticing that my teeth are clenched, I'm noticing my jaw has pain in it. Excuse me. So you become the noticer of it. But and this is the thing with anxiety and with highly sensitive people. When you try to get rid of it, you only make it worse. So the goal is not to get rid of the sensation in the body, the goal is to sit with it and allow it.

SPEAKER_01

Wow. That is an epiphany.

SPEAKER_00

I think a lot of quiet achievers, a lot of highly sensitive people and introverts who are very used to going into their heads to solve things and going at it from the intellectual point of view. The the default solution is, you know, I need to find the solution, I need to solve this, I need to fix this. But you're saying no, sit with it, accept it, acknowledge it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

One of the things I teach my people is my clients is there's no fixing. Stop trying to fix. It's I use the analogy of a tug-of-war, and I tell them drop the rope. You're not in a tug-of-war with your brain, you're not in a tug-of-war with yourself. Anytime you start to go there, you drop the rope and you just sit with whatever you're experiencing.

SPEAKER_01

But when your body and your brain are in a tug of war, nobody can win. So the first thing to do is to let go, to acknowledge, to accept.

SPEAKER_00

And then what comes next?

Feel It Through With Body Labelling

SPEAKER_02

What I teach people is curiosity. So instead of criticizing and being like, I shouldn't feel this way, why am I doing this again? What's wrong with me? Those I call low value questions. And instead, you get curious and you're like, what's my next step? What can I learn from this? What do I want to experience now? How do I want to look at this now? So you get curious and you decide what you want to think about it. And you go back to your body. What I teach people is go to your body first, check in with your body, then go to your brain and label it. Then go back to your body. What we want to do is we want to go to our brain, label it, and be like, I'm anxious or I'm afraid. And we want to stay in our brain. And what I tell people is go back to your body, keep going back to your body. Where do I feel it? Did it move? Did it change? Does it have a color? Does it have a shape? A lot of my highly sensitive people can tell me, like it's green, or it's like lava, or it's like tar rolling around in my belly, or it's like stabbing in my chest. Like when you go and be present with it, you can feel those visceral sensations in your body.

SPEAKER_00

And if somebody says they can't see anything, they can't feel anything.

SPEAKER_02

What I do, and I do have, I have some men that will say that. And what I tell them to do is just stick with it and tell me. Because what they'll tell me is I feel nothing. And I'm like, okay, so what does nothing feel like? Like nothing feels like something. So what does it feel like? Light, heavy? One of the things I'll teach people at first when they're first starting to notice their body is does this thought make me feel open or closed? Does it make me feel heavy or light? So we're just getting a sense of do I feel better or worse when I think this way.

SPEAKER_00

That's very, very helpful. Because I can imagine with a spectrum of clients that you work with, there would be some who've never done this before, to whom this is completely intimidating, a bit confronting, and they're out of their depth. They want the intellectual solution, something that they can grasp and fix and control, but you're telling them to feel. And a lot of us have become disconnected from that aspect. So brain, body, body, brain, body.

SPEAKER_02

Yes. And keep going back to the body. What I teach people when they're learning how to be present with a feeling is go to your body, notice where you feel it. Go to your head, label it. It's fear. Go back to your body. Did it move? Did it change? What is it now? You label it again. Maybe it's anxiety now. Go back to your body. Maybe it's um uh guilt or shame. And I'm using my experience, like when my daughter cut her hair on fire years ago and I was outside working and I came in, I was like jabbing in my chest. And it was like two daggers in my chest, and then I wrote pulling it together. And I was like, oh my God, that's fear. And then I went to my back to my body and I was like, oh, this sick pit of the stomach feeling. Oh, that's shame that I failed my daughter. And then I go back, I go to my head and I label it shame. Then I go back to my body and I'm like, oh, this flooding relief sensation in my body. And I go back to my head and I name it relief that she nothing did bad happened. Um, and then I went to guilt and I go back and forth between what's happening the sensation in my body and labeling it in my head, go back to the body.

SPEAKER_00

And how do you end this process? What do you what are you looking for? Relief.

SPEAKER_02

And it's not a lot of times people will be like, how will I know I've felt a feeling all the way through? And it's not that you're gonna feel good, it's that you're gonna feel a release. You're gonna feel like, okay, that's done. You've followed an emotion all the way through and it's it's released now.

SPEAKER_00

Got it. I remember reading that when emotions were not allowed to complete the cycle, they get trapped in the body. And so the body keeps a score. And so we have all these accumulated baggage from incidents, little things, big things, but they were not released properly at the time. Maybe there was no time for it, or there was not, it's just not possible. And so we carry an accumulation of all these trapped emotions into our present.

SPEAKER_02

Yes.

Unprocessed Emotions And Overreactions

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And so what will often happen is when something happens, we will over-experience it. Like let's say uh somebody, a family member of a family member, somebody dies and you're like devastated, but you didn't even know the person. You're not grieving that person, you're grieving your ungrieved grief. And so a lot of times we will over be overly sensitive to something that doesn't, shouldn't have maybe impacted us like that. But it's because of our unprocessed emotions that we are experiencing that other thing so intensely.

SPEAKER_00

That makes sense. So that's why we need to be present, we need to notice, and we need to allow ourselves to feel all the feelings that that we're having in any moment, because otherwise it creates a debt that we carry forward.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. And what we can do is we can know. So, as a therapist and a coach, a lot of times it's not appropriate for me to grieve in a session with somebody. Like that's that that makes it about me. But knowing that that means when something comes up for me. So, for example, I had a friend to die a couple of years ago of cancer. I just took on a client at that time whose mom died of cancer, and I would get teary-eyed, but that's not appropriate for me to share or grieve in. So then in the evening, I would allow myself to sit and spend time sitting with the sadness of my client's mom dying and then my friend dying. So we may not be able to do it at the time, but then later coming back and letting ourselves feel it in our body.

SPEAKER_00

So allowing yourself the time, the space, and also the appropriate context in which to feel your feelings. And in this case, it's for professional purposes.

Why Feeling Safe Beats Better Scripts

SPEAKER_00

What is the number one misconception you see in traditional relationship advice?

SPEAKER_02

That communication is the answer. I have so many clients who will text me and say, um, we're having communication issues, we need to get in. And I don't believe it's communication issues. I really believe we most humans know how to communicate. It's that we don't feel safe enough. So it's not a communication issue for most people. It's that I don't feel safe enough to say what I feel because I need to create my own safety, but I'm wanting you to change so that I can feel safe.

SPEAKER_00

So that goes back to what we talked about at the start, that it's about taking back the power and the responsibility of creating our own internal safety. If I feel safe, then I will feel safe enough to communicate. I will be able to ask for my needs, to state what they are, to say this is what I need right now.

unknown

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And one of the things I teach with all my clients is you have the right to request anything you want in a relationship. Um, so they can say no. And so you have to kind of be prepared for that. But you have a right to request anything you want. So at any time, you can say, This is my request of you. And if they say no, you have to know what you are willing to do if they aren't able to do that. But it really is important to be able to say, I'm I can ask anything. There's nothing wrong with asking anything I want in the relationship, knowing that they can say no, and I don't want my happiness based off of what they say.

SPEAKER_00

So you don't want your happiness based off of what they say. Your happiness is internal to you. Your happiness is within your agency to determine. Is that what you're saying?

SPEAKER_02

Yes. Yes. So, and uh to me, this is just so important because so much of the time people will come to me and say things like, There's so much tension in the house. I just feel so down. And I'm like, but you don't have to take on that tension just because there's tension there. So our happiness, we don't want to make our happiness based off of someone else's behavior. We get to choose that. Same thing with if I ask my partner to do something and he says no. Then I don't want to make my happiness based off of him saying yes or no. My happiness is mine. So what I teach my clients is I choose to love everybody in my life and be okay with their choices. And I get to decide what I do with that. But I don't want to be walk around angry or and for highly sensitive people, this is really important because they tend to feel emotions so um intensely that it can interfere with their functioning that day. Like that they they can find lots of people can, but highly sensitive people I find tend to be more so where something bad happens and their day is ruined. They can have a fight in the morning and the rest of the day be emotionally off-kilter. You don't want to give somebody else that power in your life to make you emotionally off-kilter all day.

SPEAKER_00

I can imagine even people who are not highly sensitive, if they've just argued with their partner or, you know, something happened at home before they came to work, it would definitely cast some, you know, some shadow over the rest of the day. It's going to be sitting on their minds for a little for a while.

Choosing Meaning So Days Aren’t Ruined

SPEAKER_02

Yes, but here's where I want to suggest that you can be like, okay, we had an argument. That's it. But what we make it mean in our brain, we add meaning and we're like, that means we're not meant to be together. We just have problems. We just don't get along. And so we catastrophize and we add all this meaning instead of being like, yeah, we'll figure it out. Yeah, we had an argument, but but not giving it so much power. And I shared with a client today, I'm struggling with that because she's having issues with some people at work, and I'm struggling with that too. I have an 18, 19-year-old daughter with Down syndrome. She did a whole mess with laundry. She put a whole bunch of two, uh way too many clothes in laundry. I've got piles of wet laundry I'm dealing with. And I'm like, I am not gonna give that the power to ruin my day. I choose my energy. I choose what I make this mean. Because yesterday, when it happened, I was like, that means I'm I'm a bad parent. I just keep messing up. I didn't educate her well enough. I didn't show her how to do this. And I was catastrophizing. And I was like, I'm gonna bitch and moan for five minutes and then I'm gonna get over it and just deal with it.

SPEAKER_00

So setting a timer on how much we express or vent and then so actually there is there is merit in being able to compartmentalize our mind like that, to be able to say, yes, that thing happened, and I'm being the watcher and I'm noticing that thing happened, and this is how I'm feeling about it right now. But then being able to also put that aside because I need all my energy to focus on doing really good work for the next, say, eight hours.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And it's so much like it's lighter. Like if you think about it, if you go back to the question, does this make me feel closed or open? Does it make me feel light or heavy? I get to choose if I'm gonna keep thinking thoughts that make me feel heavy. And that's what I felt yesterday when this whole situation happened. And I'm still cleaning it up today. I've got laundry hung out all over the place because she took all her closet and put it in different loads and washed it. And I get to choose whether I see that as a problem and make it mean all kinds of stuff, or if I get if I go, that doesn't help me feel better. I was feeling like a crappy mom yesterday. I'm like, I don't want to keep feeling that way.

SPEAKER_00

So, in every moment, even with situations like that that could upset our sense of emotional safety or trigger our nervous system in some way, we can step back, we can become the observer, the watcher, we can notice, we can accept, and then we can decide that this will not affect me in my identity, in the essence of who I am. This is a thing that has happened, but it is not necessary, it is not the same thing as I being a bad person or not good enough in some way.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, yeah. And I would add that the little part that tweak that kind of tweaks it is what do I want to take away from this? So for me, I decided I want to make sure she knows how to do laundry better. Um, but any situation, you have an argument with your partner or as somebody at work, and it's like, what do I want to take away from this? What is my my learning uh experience or how what do I want to make this mean or not mean about me and my communication skills or me as a person?

SPEAKER_00

Fantastic. So to finish off with the learning, to finish off with a thing that I will do next time, or maybe I will not do that thing next time because now I've learned in this context, this could happen. So that's taking self-responsibility and it's owning our emotional safety, it's learning to create it for ourselves, it's not making someone else's responses or reactions the determinant of how I feel right now. So that's that's how you are rewiring the nervous system and not just using surface level intellectual strategies to solve these emotional problems.

Rewiring The Nervous System For Access

SPEAKER_02

And that's the this right here, this clear, this this um what I'm gonna say right here to me is so important is there's mindset work and and and it's useful, it's important, and it's part of what I do, but there's nervous system resetting, it's the repatterning or rewiring of your nervous system. And that's what I'm really talking about. Mindset is important, communication is important, all these other skills are important, but you can't use those skills if you haven't rewired, if you haven't repatterned your brain. Because what happens is when I get hijacked and I'm like not in a state of calm, then I don't have access to the skills I've learned. So so many people that come to me are very high-functioning, emotionally intelligent, but they can't access those skills in the moment that they need them because their brain is hijacked.

SPEAKER_00

Got it. You need a calm, clear mind in order to be able to access all the strategies, all the other work, everything you've learned. You need to be able to get to it when you need it. But if you are in that kind of a triggered state, you are upset, you are you know all over the place, you can't find those files. You you just can't find the folders. They're not accessible to you. Maybe they're even invisible. And it's almost like you never learned that stuff.

SPEAKER_02

Yes. And that's where so many people come to me and they're so frustrated because they're like, I've read the books, I've listened to the podcast, I've done therapy, I know what to do, but I can't do it. And that's because your brain is hijacked and you don't have access. You literally don't have the ability in that moment to use the skills that you know.

SPEAKER_00

Fantastic.

Mini Course Resources And Closing Invites

SPEAKER_00

And I know you've got a great resource for our listeners. Would you like to tell us about it? Your brain to heart mini course. Yes.

SPEAKER_02

So I have a 20-minute brain to heart mini course that you can access. And it's just a video that will walk you through it. And there's also a quiz to tell you which hijack, because there's four different types of hijack brain hijacks that can happen. And so it'll tell you which kind of hijack you have. And then there's the mini course. So you can go to powerfulquestionscoaching.com. So it's powerfulquestions with an scoaching.com. And under work with me, you'll see the mini course and the quiz.

SPEAKER_00

Fantastic. We'll make sure to have the link in the show notes for all our listeners to check out your training. So thank you so much, Diane, for coming on the Quiet Warrior Podcast and sharing your wisdom with us today about the nervous system and about the brain hijack. Awesome. Thank you so much. You're very welcome. If you're ready to be seen without having to perform extroversion, the Visible Introvert Coaching Program is your next step. Be visible and impactful without pretending to be who you're not. Link is in the show notes. See you on the next episode. I'm so grateful that you're here today. If you found this content valuable, please share it on your social media channels and subscribe to the show on your favorite listening platform. Together we can help more introverts thrive. To receive more uplifting content like this, connect with me on Instagram at Serenalo, the Quiet Warrior Coach. Thank you for sharing your time and your energy with me. See you on the next episode.