In this episode I sit down to talk with life coach, Melissa Giller, about her experience as a work from home mom and what it means to live a Life with Soul.
We also discuss:
1. Why she decided to transition out of her corporate job and into a work-from-home coaching business.
2. Small rituals that you can sprinkle throughout your day to keep coming back to who who are and what you desire.
3. How to use Energetic Time Mapping to plan out your day based on your different energy levels.
Grab Melissa's Time Freedom Toolkit here
Connect with Melissa on her website and Instagram
Resources & Links
In this episode I sit down to talk with life coach, Melissa Giller, about her experience as a work from home mom and what it means to live a Life with Soul.
We also discuss:
1. Why she decided to transition out of her corporate job and into a work-from-home coaching business.
2. Small rituals that you can sprinkle throughout your day to keep coming back to who who are and what you desire.
3. How to use Energetic Time Mapping to plan out your day based on your different energy levels.
Grab Melissa's Time Freedom Toolkit here
Connect with Melissa on her website and Instagram
Resources & Links
Hey, mama. I see you. Laptop out on the kitchen table, responding to emails as you dole out snacks. You've been told your whole life you can do anything you want, and your wishlist includes a job you love, financial stability, being there to watch your kids grow up, and the flexibility to do it all on your own terms and schedule.
But what you hadn't counted on was the isolation, putting everyone else's needs before your own. And that overwhelming feeling of being pulled in all directions at once. Hey, I'm your host, Kimberlyn Owens-Hughes. And I believe in you and the life you've dreamed of. I believe you can have it all without sacrificing yourself in the process.
In fact, I'm convinced that the better you treat yourself, the more you can show up and work your magic in your career, your family, and your life. This podcast is here to inspire, challenge, and support you in your work from home journey. I am so glad you are here. Now, listen in.
Kimberlyn: Hey, Melissa.
Melissa: Hi.
Kimberlyn: How are you?
Melissa: I am surviving and thriving. I am and thriving. I am mixed in the midst of it all
Kimberlyn: as most of us are, I think there there's like hours when you are surviving. And then. You know, two hours later, you can be thriving and an hour later that's I guess that's home life and mother life and yes.
Life in general. yeah,
Melissa: exactly, exactly. Riding the wave as I like to say the wave.
Kimberlyn: All right. So Melissa, I am super excited to have you here. We. I'm gonna say we go back, but we, I mean, we go fairly back. We do not too far back, but so Melissa was my mentor for a while as well. And she is the one who helped me really reclaim my creativity, which I'm very, very grateful to you for.
Providing the space to for me to do that. But I'm gonna let you also tell us about what it is. Who, who are you what it is you do and why you do it?
Melissa: Awesome. So I'm Melissa, I'm Melissa Giller. in full name.
I am a life coach and mentor for women who are just like you said, like searching for that.
Well you didn't say this, but I remember your journey and it was, and in, in covering reclaiming who you are and really getting back to that core truth of your. So I, I guess I like to say I, I walk women back home to themselves and to who they came here to be their big dreams, their, their vision of themselves, how they wanna show up in this world.
I do this through one to one coaching in my community. I just I'm launching my own podcast coming up as well because I'm, yeah, I'm on a mission to kind of share the experiences that I myself have lived and healed through and then have witnessed others on their journey, which you were one of them.
And I just loved watching that unfold for you and how you took something so kind of deep that was calling to you and ran with it and really created a new life for yourself with that vision. So yeah, that's, that's me in nutshell. In a vague roundabout way. , I'm so awkward at describing myself.
Kimberlyn: It's fine. We'll, we'll get into the nitty gritty, I think in a little bit. So so as you know this podcast is really aimed at women who, mothers who work from home, right? The, the work from home moms who I feel we don't get much Much screen time, if you will. Like, I feel like there's a lot of talk. Well I guess until the pandemic hit, there's always all, a lot of talk of like, you have working moms and then you have stay at home moms and we're essentially the two, right?
Melissa: Yeah.
Kimberlyn: We stay at home who work and we work. We do it all. Yeah. Right.
Melissa: Yes.
Kimberlyn: So have you always been a work from home mom or have you worked in corporate environments? Tell us a little bit about like your background.
Melissa: Yeah.
Kimberlyn: And how you came to, to work from home
Melissa: for sure. I never imagined my life taking the twists and turns that it did that I would be a work from home mom.
But I guess when I do kind of think about it, It totally fulfills me in a way that I think I, I didn't see coming, but probably secretly did desire. So going back into my twenties, I was very driven. Very ambitious. I worked full time in HR while simultaneously completing my MBA. From there I went into big four firms, so I was consulting and management consulting, change management, human capital was working a lot of long hours. You know, it was, it was a great time in my life. But then I got pregnant and I also knew this was not sustainable for the kind of lifestyle I I was shifting into and kind of envisioned. And my mom stayed home with me for the most part. I think she got a part-time job when I was like four or something like that.
But like, she was really at home with me. And my husband, you know, grew up in a very similar situation. And so from both of our families, we had this kind of like, you know, it's really great and important to be at home for your kids. And I had that sort of pressure and expectation, as well as like an internal calling that like, I knew I wanted to slow down, but I made kind of a, a ultimate all or nothing leap into that. In that I quit my consulting job. I was a full on stay at home mom and I was absolutely miserable. It was not right for me. And I was like, I, I lost myself completely. And I had another child you know, shortly thereafter, my kids are 26 months apart.
And. It was really, you know, some time after she was born where I had this massive panic attack that just really shook me to my core and woke me up. Like it was the universe shaking me by their shoulders, quite literally saying like, this is not enough. Like you were, you were suffering in this place where you are like, you're so far.
Who you came here to be, and I felt so incredibly lost. So it was also like an experience I'm so grateful for because that's what ultimately launched me into where I'm at now. And I went through this incredible journey of healing and sought various modalities to do that. And kind of landed on this.
I'm I'm gonna help other women become more confident in who they are really. And, and to, you know, Find a life that works for them because here I am, like, I threw myself into this major transition and life change. Not like knowing what was gonna obviously come out of that. And I just, I, I started.
Really tuning into who I was, who I am and what I wanted and making those choices and, and seeing the effect on my life. Like my family was happier. I was getting along better with my spouse. Everybody was doing better when I was putting myself first and like my dreams again kind of thing. So yeah, I built a coaching business out of all of that mess and started slowly, you know, getting it out there, working a couple days a week.
Cuz my kids at that point were just, you know, One and three. So I, I worked with what I had. I had a little bit of childcare a couple days a week and I, I started really slow. And then I asked myself, how, how can I have more, I want more, I want more and really started to craft my life around this goal of working for myself.
And it's been a messy, beautiful ride.
Kimberlyn: ah, I love that. I, yeah, I. I couldn't imagine going like from, you know, I, I don't wanna say all to nothing, but, you know
Melissa: yeah.
Kimberlyn: From one extreme to the other were, was there any point, like one, when your kids were younger, that you were like, I really wanna go back to corporate or did you.
Melissa: No, no. And as I say that, I get a full on goosebump up and down my body. No, I'll never go back. And it's like, it's, it's that knowing too, that keeps me pushing for my business to work. Like I don't believe in failure. They're all just lessons and I will not let this fail. I'll just pivot and adapt it and adapt it cuz I'll never go back.
And so the reason too for that was I was working towards promotion when I was pregnant with this firm. And I did get it. And in my, in or in my promotion meeting, they said you know, Yeah, you did get promoted. You're getting the bonus. It's all really great. You know, you would've gotten more if you had more overtime though.
And I was at this point 7 months pregnant, working full time and it's like, really, wow. I have to like bleep myself out in order to have more, that doesn't make sense. And so I knew that I didn't want to go back to that environment for sure. And. I just didn't want to, to work for anyone else. I wanted to create the freedom to, to do what I wanted and I never felt you know in, in any of my jobs really fully aligned with The point of why we were there.
Kimberlyn: Right.
Melissa: If that makes sense. And just even like in my MBA program, I felt so out of place because it was all about, it was very masculine and very like profit over people, push and hustle and it just like, I could never get behind it, but I also took that experience and like I shaped, you know, my thesis around transformative leadership and what really now, when I read back on it, it's like being an empathic leader and it's so funny to see these little sparks that I had that were always there.
And I just needed those little breadcrumbs to fall into place and like the timing to really unfold as it did to bring it all together. Cause I think. I had all those visions inside me, but I had no freedom to work with them in a corporate structure. Okay.
Kimberlyn: So you were basically looking for that, that freedom that's okay.
Melissa: Yeah. And that's what drew me to consulting like, and for a firm, because I was fairly autonomous in that, and it was a very flexible day in that it was like, you know, sometimes you're in the office, sometimes you're with clients and they did allow you to work for, from home. And I, I liked that piece of it.
And I feel like that's something I still do. Like, I love to have days that are different and some days I'm more on the go than others, or like now that the pandemic is more or less shifting into more in person realities. Now, I'm able to go and meet clients for coffee and have that personal connection because yeah, that is definitely, and I'm sure we'll get into this in this conversation.
One of the struggles is that lack of network that you kind of have sometimes as a solopreneur.
Kimberlyn: Oh, absolutely. Yeah. I yeah, I do want, I wanted to talk about this, but first you said something when you were talking about the, the overtime and you know that, you know, you would've gotten the promotion if you had more overtime.
So there's this thing in, I think social media, I don't know if you've seen these kind of jokes or, or whatever memes talking about like leaving a nine to five and then starting a 24 7. It's like I left, I left my corporate job, but now I basically work all the time. Right. Which is essentially like the overtime.
So I'm wondering if you ever were pulled into that or if you had like systems in place to make sure you weren't or your new job your new, you know, coaching business didn't take on that extra time.
Melissa: Yeah, no, I'm pretty boundaried with my schedule and I will actually say it is something I more or less picked up in that consulting world that I had a mentor in that, in that firm who literally blocked out like her lunch time or like time where she was going to be with her family.
Even bathroom breaks. Like she was unbookable at certain things. And that just got my mind kind of going around, like time blocking and boundaries and things like that. And so I would say that at first I was honestly, I was too tired to even work in the evenings because of having two small kids. And I would kind of get the childcare come in for the day and when it worked and, and I would do that work during the day.
And then I had I think at that time one or two nights a week that I was coaching clients and stuff, and I just, I, I honored my energy. I just, it was a commitment I made to myself and I was also kind of starting to learn human design at that time and, and clue into being a projector and learning about what that means.
And that means that you're not meant energetically to do, do do. Like, I, I come definitely more from a place of leadership and delegation. And so I, I just really, I didn't wanna burn out. I wanted to find a way that it would be sustainable and I could also, I, I know full well what happens to my relationship with my kids or my husband when I'm burnt out and tired, it is not good.
so I didn't want that. And I'd been that for two years already, cuz I was exhausted as a new mom. You know, so I didn't want to stay in that cycle. Like to me, it was almost freeing up, giving more energy to kind of work and focus on me again and pursue that. Like that was life giving versus draining.
Kimberlyn: Oh yeah. Okay. I love that. And how so speaking of kids and like boundaries, , I'm really curious about like, what systems do you have, you know, during the day are your kids in school? Are they, do you have a nanny? Like how does work in your home?
Melissa: We've done it all. So we did have a nanny come when I said, like I had childcare a couple days a week.
Kimberlyn: Mm-hmm
Melissa: she came two days a week. And that was kind of it. And then we moved last may to a home that's outside of the city where we live. And we also in that move happened to move five minutes away from my parents. So , that was helpful. But over the summer. So from May to September, we didn't have our kids in any childcare because we were new to where we lived and we were on wait list and whatnot.
And both my husband and I are entrepreneurs and own our own businesses. So we decided to basically split shift the day for the summer. And also recognizing like, this is probably the last summer before cuz my son was starting kindergarten in the fall, like before school takes over and that new stage of life, like let's just slow down and enjoy this and soak up this time.
So him and I, we, we split it. We did it the entire summer where we had like, You know, the morning shift to 1:00 PM and then from 1:00 PM till five kind of thing. And we just traded every day. So it was also great because I could finally be consistent in my business. I was finding that those, those two kind of days a week, I would power load everything in. And then I would be kind of tired right on the other days. Or I'd be thinking about work constantly when I was with my kids, because I, I wasn't in it enough. And so having this schedule between him and I was great because I got to do a little bit every day and really start building some consistency and momentum.
And then when September hit my kids started daycare and school and that just allowed In theory for more structure. However, the germs that ended up plaguing our home. and I know I'm not alone in this have been kind of like you get one week to work and then you're one week off and then one week to work.
And of course with like pandemic restrictions, kids are home longer and they're sick here. So it was this yeah kind of weird thing. But I embraced screen time and I'm lucky that I have a basement office as well, so I can kind of escape the rest of the house busy or loud I can lock the door. And I just kind of adapted to that and yeah.
Kimberlyn: So did I, was there any yeah. Seriously. Was there any like mindset work that you had to go through? Like when kids, you know, got sick and you had this like plan for the week
Melissa: mm-hmm
Kimberlyn: like how did you, how did you adapt to that? Were, was, was there any like shifts.
Melissa: Yeah, I, I would say I did a lot of that work in kind of the years leading up to it where like control and surrender were a really big thing for me and, and learning how to, to turn things over that were out of my control and release that has been kind of a game changer because for me, it really.
I started that approach. And really trying to, I guess, learn what it means to surrender and, and give into that. When my dad got sick and then the pandemic hit and then yeah, working through illness and all that stuff. I just got really good with saying no. And just saying, I'm sorry, I need to reschedule or like not doing or not producing or not working and just getting comfortable with well, I'm, I can't push it this week and like I'm in it for the long game, I guess. And so to me, maybe it's a place of privilege in some ways, too, that, you know, I can be comfortable in what we've already created and established, and that what I'm working towards is, you know, all helping and, and growing.
But my job is also a mom, like number, not number one. And I get, I hate what, I don't know. It's a weird thing to say. It's like, it's not number one, but it's so important. It's so important to me.
Kimberlyn: Right? Well, you're also, you're you're you have to make sure that little human beings stay alive. Yeah. Which I think is like the big pressure that, that moms have and that we feel, you know, and, and I think creates a lot of guilt also around around motherhood, but I digress yeah,
Melissa: that's a full on episode,
Kimberlyn: full on another conversation. So I was going, let me think, I'm gonna think back there was something that I was going to ah, you're talking about surrender, so I. When I think of surrender, I think a lot about like trusting
Melissa: mm-hmm
Kimberlyn: And when you were talking about like the, the control and like letting go of control I'm reminded a couple weeks ago or I guess a week ago, as you know, I went on a retreat and Tulum, and our phones were taken away and we didn't have connection to our family. We didn't, in a lot of cases, we didn't have our, you know, watches our, like the comforts that we're we're used to.
And it got me thinking a lot about surrender and really just surrendering to the circumstances
Melissa: mm-hmm,
Kimberlyn: surrendering to what we have. What is, what is right now not worrying about what's going to be in the future, but really just like, this is what I've got. How can I work with it? And. I think that a lot of that comes into, into play when you have kids at home is just being like, this is what I have.
Like, this is what I have to work with and not thinking like, oh my God, I wish she would just, you know,
Melissa: yeah, totally
Kimberlyn: get better. Yeah. But a lot of that is, is really just, there's a lot of trust that goes in there and there's a lot of like spirituality, I believe that goes in there. And I know that like, Spiritual side, the soul side of your business is Life with Soul.
So it, I would love to hear you talk a little bit about that soul piece as well and how that helps you in the day to day.
Melissa: Sure. Yeah, I think, I think this will kind of tie it in cuz what I wanted to add to what you're saying is. It's almost also surrendering to how you feel and acknowledging that that might not be your ideal feeling, but it is what it is and learning, and that kind of touches on the guilt piece, like learning to just be with it and see it for what it is and know that it will end.
I think that's a big part of surrender and trust is that there's always a cycle. There's always completion. There's always rebirth. Like there's always something new. And I mean, you know, we, we know about the emotional guidance scale and like how, like, we don't stay typically in one place for too long.
And I feel like we can get out of those places with that expectation. Like I know I'm not here forever, but I am here right now. I see that it's like, Hello, anxiety you're inside me. I see you. yeah. Befriending it in a way. Right? So to me, a life with soul is coming to terms with all those facets and feelings inside you of who you really are.
It's that spectrum of being a human, of light and dark, and they're all often just two sides of the same coin, and that when you can really truly understand yourself. And I think trust yourself and the journey that you're on that provides confidence to start making those life changes or life decisions.
And that is what like creates that life with soul, it's life from the inside out,, it's based on your desires and your wants and your, your what's pulling you, what lights you up and creating that around you. Right in, in life form. So through your work, through how you parent, through who you're with as a partner potentially, right?
Like the things that you do, what you align yourself with has to match on a soul level.
Kimberlyn: I love that. Do you have any rituals to like, make sure that you are, are connected to that soul piece?
Melissa: Yeah, I, I would say my whole day is more or less crafted in, in ritual form, although it might not appear that way, but to me, it, it is a ritual, so it's like the morning routine.
Right. And I. Again, you could have a whole episode on a morning routine type thing, or like the value in it. Right. But for me, it's that space to really connect with myself before anyone else needs something of me before I go on my phone to just have, and. No, I don't meditate first thing, I do like to have my coffee, but from it's like having my coffee in silence and journaling and planning my day with my planner.
Like I'm very diligent with my, my planning of every single day. It I call it like getting the dust out and it just gets all the things that you kind of wake up with maybe swirling around and. Get grounded before other people enter the scene and you've tried to do things. And then I, I really like to do kind of my movement before I get into my work for the day.
And I'm lucky. Like I, well, I'm not lucky I structured it. So, so that I'm the pick up person and my husband is the drop up person because for me that's the best time to move my body. And so whether that's, you know, just if it's 20 minutes, that's all I've got that day. Or like it's, today's yoga, but today's like really heavy cardio cuz I need that energy release.
That really kind. Gets both my mind and my body free of stagnant energy because it's like the mental stuff. And then just, I find that once I've moved, I just, I feel different. I feel more grounded and yeah, I can, I can tune inward. So then I find, like to bring it all together, the soul listening feeds into the day.
So it could be that, you know, it's in my shower time after. And I mean, I just find water, so healing and I love that kind of that part of my day, that routine. And I'm, I always say whenever I go to get my haircut, I'm like, I know you're not supposed to wash your hair every day, but like that shower ritual is so important to me.
So being in water, but then, you know, making space to, to have just a five minute meditation where possible, or, you know, before I go do that afternoon pickup, I like to have a little meditation or just some sort of like self grounding ritual before I'm transitioning out of work focus or like other people cuz I coach people.
Right. So I have a lot of other people's energy by the end of the day. And before I get my kids, I, I do need some sort of, kind of just grounding moments before I launch into family mode again.
Kimberlyn: Okay. Can you tell me a little bit more about like family, like family mode? Like what does it look like when you, do you shut off completely from your work or,
yeah. Like how does, how does that, how does that boundary?
Melissa: Yeah. And I've really mapped out my day. And I know we've kind of touched on this before, but yes. I, I do wanna talk about energetic time mapping because this is what, what brings us in. And so for me, it was a process I kind of just landed on where I was, I was thinking about like, okay, when do I. like, what are my constraints in the day? Like kids get up at a certain time. Kids need to eat regularly. My kids are three and five still. They're very little. So it's like, they need to go to bed at a certain time. And I wanted to, yeah, have that presence with them.
And I think this kind of addressed the mom guilt piece that it's like, okay, now I'm sending them off for the day, which we never did before. So when I'm with them, I wanna be fully with them and they get all of me kind of thing. So I that's like sacred space. So In the mornings. It's a little bit more like we're just on the go and things like that.
But from four to seven, basically like that three hour block of time is totally family focused. I try, I have to work actively on this and then be a little bit better to put the phone away and not check. Oh, did someone respond to my email or, you know, check in on something. I, and because I, I have kind of this like second wind.
At about seven o'clock like once they're tucked away I can kind of get back to things for a little bit, and I enjoy that kind of creative time in a way to. To work on maybe marketing stuff or, you know, Canva, whatever. It's like getting back into work mode a little bit, but not, not heavily. Like it's fun work.
It's creative work. Or that's when I do even like manifesting rituals or like new moon, full moon things whatever, the kind of, you know, theme is in, in the world season. Yeah. Tapping into that time. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
Kimberlyn: So can, can you tell us a little bit more about like, what is energetic mm-hmm time mapping.
Yes. There you . And how does it look for you during the day also? Yeah. Like how do you schedule your day?
Melissa: Absolutely. So I really do think that. As human beings, we're, we're similar in that we have, you know, periods of high energy and low energy. We can't be one thing all day. And I like that it does. If, if you know anything about human design I think human design does a great job of trying to point people and like how their energy stores are used.
But for me, I just, I knew that like in the mornings, for instance but not first thing. More like from nine to 12, I was finding myself like, when I was getting ready for work, I'm like, oh, I'm really ready to do this. I'm really like energized. And I wanna get in and I wanna get in. And I was like, that's what I need to be doing those like big ticket items.
What's really gonna move the needle. High energy activities. So for me, that's like pitching things, whether workshops, podcast, mm-hmm, reaching out, networking, engaging with people. Maybe that's when I, I do have coaching calls or something like that. And then I always know that I kind of like burn out, not burn out, but I use my reservoir in that time.
Mm. And then I still have, you know, half a day left. Okay. Well then that's when I'm strategically going to schedule the learning I wanna do on this day. Like maybe Monday afternoons are when I do training. I try to schedule all of my clients on, you know, Tuesdays and Thursdays, so that it leaves me the space on Monday, Wednesday, Friday to do some of the creative, the learning business development, the admin stuff, you know, you're wearing all the hats right.
But really trying to tap into like knowing my body and when I feel tired and when I feel awake, And energized, when should I be doing the things that I'm putting off and procrastinating? And when can I say, Hey, I give myself permission to watch this video. It's part of my low energy. And it's important to me.
It's gonna, it is still gonna move my needle in some way, because it's like something I'm desiring, you know, to watch and learn about or something. Yeah. And then. We all have families and we have those priorities. And so for me, creating kind of a block of family energy is what I call it. Like that's my family time.
And that's when I'm not in a work productive mode. I'm not in necessarily a high energy space, but there's like things I need to do or just, you know, being, just being present, just being literally it's a different kind of energy. And then I find a lot of people have some sort of second wind typically in the day.
So whether like it's, it's all about tuning into you. This is all your unique map. So for me, I get a second wind, like I said, at about seven o'clock it doesn't last long it's maybe an hour. But I just find I can get, or maybe that's when I'm doing, stuff that I need to do around the house. I'm not worrying about it during the day.
Cuz I get this kind of like second puttery wind to do things. And then there's the restoration, the restoration time and that like evening routine and. Making space for time with my partner and time to just read or watch a show. God damnit, like I deserve it. absolutely. Yeah. So yeah,
Kimberlyn: I love the like grace piece behind when you're talking about being like low energy and being like, okay, I'm gonna lean into this because I lo I think a lot of times, especially coming from the conditioning that we have in corporate, you know, as like high achievers, it's like, oh, I should have high energy all the time. So I'm just gonna drink coffee all the time to keep my energy level up. And I love how you are really looking at like the natural energy flows.
Melissa: Right.
Kimberlyn: Versus, you know, it. Ideal where we expect to have energy all the time.
Melissa: Yeah, totally. And I can say that it's it's really, I think, yeah, that permission has been what I needed to help me feel like my time was balanced and well used because now it's like, it's, it's sacred space in my calendar and it's like, I, yeah, can just kind of let go of that pressure.
Kimberlyn: I love that. I love that. Well, Melissa, are you working on anything right now? How can we support you? How can we follow you? What can we okay. Tell us what you're doing.
Melissa: I always have something . I have a million things going. I actually have a lot going on right now. I would say the best place to find me is on my website.
It's www.melissagiller.com. You can also follow me on Instagram it's @melissa_giller. Sorry. That's actually my alarm clock, cuz it's 2:00 PM saying, go for a walk, go for a walk. I know. Yeah. I blocked that time in my lower energy sphere to like take that space for myself. So it's really funny that that happened.
I am working right now, actually on a spring workshop series where over the course of May, April and June, I will be offering it's like a self it's self reclamation mini series. So it's really a taste of my main offering and how to really find that inner voice again and who you are and make the space.
I do have a big one workshop all around energetic time mapping in particular. And the third one is on dropping the guilt because I think that's a huge piece of finding yourself again, then creating the space for yourself again, and then taking action towards what's gonna bring you joy and light you up.
Guilt comes and infiltrates and rears its ugly head at all those moments. Right. So I'm really excited about that.
Kimberlyn: Yeah. And you had told me you have a resource also, is it related to the time
Melissa: it's it's, it's not related to energetic time mapping because I do offer those trainings within my community, which is available as well on my website.
But I have the time freedom toolkit, which contains a, a number of Like honestly, backend systems that I use in my life that have created a lot of time freedom. So it's like as basic as a meal planning spreadsheet to a family scheduling template, which now that I think about it almost was the first iteration of energetic time mapping.
I just really didn't know it yet. And it's something I've walked a lot of my clients through in that it kind of. I think as a mom, it helps you to ensure your kids are getting enough time of you. And that you're kind of working on that connection and filling that cup. And then it really does highlight like where the white space is, where there's opportunities for you.
And then the, the work is sticking to it and committing to it and keeping the promises you make to yourself to actually take that time.
Yeah.
Kimberlyn: Yeah, I think that's, that's really important is that sometimes we have these systems, but we don't actually implement them. right. So,
Melissa: yes, exactly. But that would be, I would say like the best beginner's way to get into this process is through that Time Freedom Toolkit, and going through like the family scheduling template and then really seeing how each day is spent and where you can create more space for yourself.
And always, I'd like to add, like asking for help. It's not a resource of mine, but it's a, you know, reach out to an aunt, reach out to a family member, a, a friend, hire a nanny for one day. Like, how can you free up some of the time, if you are, you know, experiencing that burnout of parenting and work, it might be just a simple shift and even a few hours can alleviate some of that.
Kimberlyn: Okay. I love that. So where can they find the, can they find this on your website?
Melissa: On my website? Yeah, it's melissagiller.com probably slash resources. I dunno, the exact
Kimberlyn: that's called the Time Freedom toolkit toolkit. Yes. Okay. Awesome. Well, thank you so much for your time, Melissa. I do not wanna run into your walking run into it's like a pun.
No pun intended into your walking time, but thank you again. And I will be talking to you soon.
Melissa: Yes. Thank you. It was so lovely to have this chat with you.
Kimberlyn: Thank you. Okay.
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