Trust Before Proof: What Happens When You Stop Forcing Growth: June Insights

What if the results you're looking for are already unfolding—even if you can't see them yet?

In this month's Insights episode, Christina and K. Margaret reflect on a season of growth, momentum, and unexpected validation. The conversation begins with a surprising discovery: a podcast reaching the top 10% globally before there was any awareness it had happened.

That realization opens the door to a deeper discussion about trust, receiving, self-validation, and the ways many of us unknowingly push against our own growth.

Together, they explore what happens when you stop forcing outcomes, loosen old rules that no longer fit, and create space for opportunities, connection, and joy to enter your life.

If you've been questioning your progress, waiting for proof that your efforts are working, or feeling stuck between where you are and where you want to be, this conversation offers a grounded perspective on growth that often happens long before it becomes visible.

In This Episode

• Why growth often happens before you see evidence of it
• The difference between pushing for results and allowing momentum to build
• How external validation can confirm what was already true
• Moving from "fake it until you make it" toward genuine self-trust
• Why saying yes to connection can create more energy, not less
• The hidden cost of overprotecting your energy
• Letting go of outdated rules and assumptions
• Finding the balance between expansion and rest
• Creating intentional rhythms as you move into a new season
• What the archetype of a dormant volcano can teach us about potential

Key Takeaway

Many people assume that if they can't see immediate results, nothing is happening.

Often the opposite is true.

Growth, momentum, confidence, relationships, opportunities, and impact frequently develop beneath the surface long before they become visible. Learning to trust yourself during that phase may be one of the most important skills you can build.

Reflection Questions

• Where might growth be happening that you haven't acknowledged yet?
• What old rule are you still following that no longer serves you?
• Where are you waiting for proof before allowing yourself to trust?
• What opportunity keeps showing up that you've been saying no to?
• How can you create more space for both expansion and rest this season?

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Transcript

June Insights 2026

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K. Margaret: Okay. Hello, Christina. How are you? 

Christina: I'm good. How are you doing, K. Margaret? 

K. Margaret: I'm doing well. We just had a quick recap and we were like, what's one word we could use? And May was so full, it's hard to find one word, but what came up for me was growth. I think it's... And not the pushing kind of growth, the expansiveness that comes from allowing, which is, I feel like is from our conversation last time.

I'm working through, you had- I'd done coaching with you, and you'd given me this wonderful 90-day plan, so I'm now starting month two of that 90-day plan. It feels like s- what's the right word, momentum is building- ... which is really exciting, and that feels like part of growth. I had a podcast audit, which is really exciting, with, with a podcast, it's now called a [00:01:00] media channel, but Magic Thread Media, and it was really interesting.

And one thing I learned is Intuitive Wisdom is now in top 10% globally. 

Speaker 2: Wow. Congrats. Right? Amazing. I was 

K. Margaret: so 

Christina: excited. 

K. Margaret: They were congratulating me and I was like, "Wait, where did you read that? I need that." Yeah. So that's super exciting, so that's been pause for reflection and celebration and, like, acknowledging that growth and, and inspiring, 'cause I'm like, well, nice, now I wanna show up like that, you know, now that I know that.

So I've been thinking about, well, you know... And she gave me some really great tips in that podcast audit, was like, where are you now? What could you do better? And I love the g- how can I be better tips 'cause it's just, I find it all very inspiring. Yeah, so kind of those were some main growth things on my end, but it all, I was gonna say bleeds into each other, was m- not real- maybe a positive adjective.

It all- Yeah ... like, I was thinking of, you know, watercolors coming together. 

Speaker 2: Yeah. 

K. Margaret: How about 

Speaker 2: you? Yeah, [00:02:00] you said that growth but allowing. What do you think that... We talked a little bit at the last the last episode on, like, how you were approaching things. When you were looking at and being able to have this experience versus maybe growth times in the past, how does it feel different and how have you been able to tune into that allowing more?

K. Margaret: Good question. It just, it feels different in that I think allowing is a really appropriate word. Other, before it used to felt like pushing. Like, I could see the goal, I knew I was worthy of the goal, but I wasn't there. Like, if we- I mean, in my world, we could talk about energy and frequency all the time, so I just was not at that frequency and I could tell the difference.

So it felt like a push, like, "I need to be over here. I need to be over here. I need to..." It wasn't, no, there was no satisfaction in where I am. Mm-hmm. And I have now come to appreciate [00:03:00] where I am and, and acknowledge that it's not where I thought I would be, but it's part of the process. That's good. Also, if I give up where I thought I would be and I'm happy here, it's not, it, that surrender is not a failure, it's a acknowledgement that it opens up possibilities.

Like, I could, what I want could be different and better. 

Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. 

K. Margaret: It's just a, a, a- It, it al- it allows for the softening of those, like, rigid, it has to happen this way, or I have to do this, I have to do this, I have to do this. So that allowing in every day, allowing my days to be different, allowing the goal, the dream to sh- take shape as I continue working allowing the excitement to grow, allowing the strategy to change, all those allowings.

Christina: Yeah. Well, and I think for our listeners too, one of the things that I wanna make sure that I pause on for that too is that you mentioned that [00:04:00] from before it felt like you weren't there, and you had this idea of where you wanted to be, and you weren't there, and so you were trying to push your way into it.

And being able to step back and, and acknowledge where you are as part of the process, and that that wasn't a failure, and it's just, like, part of it, has now opened up. Because now you're not pushing from an, a sense of lack. You're like, "This is where I am. This is where all of the all the work that I've done has got me to here.

I have so much more potential that I can bring in, and so many more things that I want. And also, I'm gonna no- acknowledge all of this here so that I can just start to bring that in and be able to..." It doesn't have to look a certain way. It doesn't have to be a, a set thing that I'm, like, forcing and pushing and, and trying to do it from.

And I think that space is so different, and it's really hard. I mean, even as you're talking too, I think it's really hard to communicate that difference because the words that we have [00:05:00] just lack a little bit. Mm-hmm. It's just like, oh, you have to just feel it, and whatever. But you can, you can literally...

I mean, I can, talking to you and seeing you, I think that having that, like, real sense of feeling it in your body. Like, it's not just talk now. It's not just, oh, I need to be able to let things come in, and I know that I need to open myself up for receiving. It's, it's really being able- To feel it from a more cellular level- Mm-hmm

and that's the vibration split. Yes. Don't you think? 

K. Margaret: Amen. Yes. What came to mind while you were talking was, you know the saying, "Fake it till you make it," or you, like, smile when you're not? That was the feeling- 

Speaker 2: Mm ... 

K. Margaret: where it was very much, okay, I didn't feel like I was making it, so I'm gonna fake it, so I'm gonna feel awkward 'cause I'm not being s- Like, I'm being my authentic future self without being my authentic now self.

It was this kind of odd disconnect, and it didn't get me any- I [00:06:00] mean, I learned a lot, and I learned where I wanna put my focus. But it really didn't start that momentum happening. And, and like you said, now that there's, at a cellular level, that acceptance and that acknowledgement and that actual feeling that I'm not failing.

Whereas before, the fake it till you make it the underlying feeling was failure. Like, not there. And I don't feel that way, or I'm just not afraid of it anymore. I don't know how to describe that. But it definitely is a shift, and it's makes it so much more fun. 

Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and then you bring that energy and fun.

Okay, but wait. I wanna go back. Okay, so you were saying, like, "Okay, I'm feeling like I'm not getting what I want. I'm failing or whatever." And then- this is happening, like, okay, so you have these people reaching out to you. You're in the top 10% of that. That's not all of a sudden just in the last couple of weeks.

Like, this has been in the, this has been in the process. So this has been [00:07:00] happening in the background, and it's just confirmation that you're getting that, no, this, this is impactful. This is what I wanna be doing. This is what I'm putting out there. Like, all of my effort is actually going somewhere. But that existed whether you knew it or not.

K. Margaret: Yes. 

Speaker 2: And you being in a space where you're open to, like, I just am where I am- Yeah ... and this is what it is, and that allowed that opportunity and that, like, validation coming through of, yeah, you know what? Here, this is this. And it's like, that would've been true either way, but you knowing it feels different, and you being in a space where you are open to receiving that information, like you're saying, like, now it makes me wanna show up differently.

Mm-hmm. So that, I think, is when we get that, like, you don't wanna fake it till you make it into the, like, I lack, I'm not enough, and I have to force myself to pretend like I am. But in the sense of, like, I know that I have so much more potential in me, and I'm gonna act like the person that does from [00:08:00] this positive energetic because you, you are in that space.

And, and being able to say, "Okay, well now what's next?" And I can embody that, is just gonna move you that much faster 'cause for so many of us, I think we look for that external validation. We look for those certain markers that we think that we're gonna see along the way, and when we don't see them, then we think it's all in vain or we start to lose hope and we start to, like, get down on ourselves.

But the fact is that those external markers could be just not in your vision right now. Mm-hmm. And it doesn't mean that they don't exist. So that's where you can embody rather than fake it till you make it from a lack. You can embody that, like, I probably have a lot of things that I'm hitting. For a lot of our listeners, I know that they are impactful, and they are highly capable, and they are doing all kinds of things, and it's so easy to feel [00:09:00] like it's not enough.

And to be able to sit there and bring back and be like, "No, I'm gonna trust that all of this work that I'm doing, I may not see the results right now, but it doesn't mean that it's not happening," and these results can just come in, and the validation is great. Like, the validation is amazing. And also, I can still trust that I can continue to act and take these actions from a place of really grounded energy where I can just open myself and, like you're saying, like, I'll just allow whatever's out there.

K. Margaret: And give yourself the grace to make that shift. You reminded me of an energy work I sh- like, a belief I had to re- reclaim, I guess, is growing up I always heard you have to see it to believe it, right? Unless you see it, it's not true. And I think a lot of us still operate under that when it's in fact the opposite I have now learned is true.

If you believe it, then you see it, and that's kind of what you're [00:10:00] saying. Now that I believe I am worthy enough to receive, I can ask for support. I am open. You know, like an audit sounds bad. I could've... But it's not. Yeah. I found it the most exciting thing ever. I'm happy for you to tell me what I'm not doing well and I could be doing better, 'cause I'm in that place where I'm like, "Great, what do I," you know, "What can I, what do I believe?"

Well, I believe these things, and then it, it does open the door. Then you can see it. 

Speaker 2: Well, and you're doing it from a place of feeling grounded, so it's not s- it's not gonna sway you. I think that sometimes we can take those different opinions- Yes ... we can take all of that in as, like, gospel truth of this is the only way.

K. Margaret: True. But you- Or 

Speaker 2: take it all 

K. Margaret: instead of pick and choose what works for you. 

Speaker 2: Yeah. And being able to do it from a place where you have real self-trust, then you can take it and bring all the, all the good things of it and not, fall into, "Oh, now I have to look exactly like this." 

K. Margaret: Yes. You're such a good mentor.

You [00:11:00] reflected everything back to me and made it make sense. But I... But what about you? How was your month? 

Speaker 2: Oh, May was... I, I think that growth was a really good word for it, because there... I mean, just doing a quick look back on my month there's been so many things that have come up. I've gotten so much more clarity around my positioning and the things that I'm doing and how I talk about the work that I do.

And having it, again, where you, where you don't necessarily have the words but you can see that transformation. Starting to get more of those words, which is really great, and being able to, like, look at what are the, what's the baseline? Because what... The work that I do looks different with each client that I that I work with in, like, terms of strategy and the way that we do it and all of those things.

But the underground factor that's underneath all of it is really looking into and determining what those baseline, what that baseline [00:12:00] looks like for you for your mindset, and what the, the kind of unconscious patterns that you have going on underneath. What, what is making you show up in the way that you are.

'Cause you can have all kind of strategy, you can have the best tips, you can have all the things, and if y- it is working against your nervous system, if it is working against how you feel about yourself or if you're, you're pushing in ways that aren't actually expansive, then it's really not gonna have the effect that you want.

So I've been really able to dig into a lot of that. And one of the things that I noticed for this month too is that- This whole past year, like one of the things that I have wanted is I've just wanted to allow more in, and more joy, and more things. And we have a lot of home projects and things that we're doing, so we haven't been traveling as much, and that is usually my way of like, "Oh, I need that new energy."

And Being able to look at it and notice where I can say [00:13:00] yes and bring in that everyday kind of magic and connection. I was talking to my husband, and we had gotten invited to go out and hang out with some friends and family that we, would love to hang out with. But it was cold and kind of chilly, and I don't know, it seemed nice to just kind of stay in.

It was like, "Okay, do you wanna come?" He's like, I'm not sure." I said, "Okay, you know what? I'm just gonna go," because what I've been saying this whole time is that I want to bring in more fun. And if I'm not making the space to accept the fun that is coming in, then what am I... I'm asking for things and then not allowing myself to receive it, so I'm just gonna say yes, and I'm just gonna do it.

And we both went out, and we had a great time, and, like, got to hang out with people we haven't seen in a while, and it was just so lovely. And it was like, this is it. This is what it is. Because sometimes I think that I can put requests out or I can put these things of, like, I want more of this stuff, [00:14:00] and then when it shows up and it's like, "Hello.

Here," and I'm like maybe that's too much work. Maybe the conditions aren't perfect for that. Try again later." And I'm like, no. Let myself, like, bring it in. It doesn't matter how it looks, what I think it's gonna be, and just say yes to more opportunities in whatever form they come. 

K. Margaret: Yes. And I think it...

So I've been reading a book called Age Like a Girl. Ooh. It's about perimenopause and menopause, and it's the best... I, I like... I'm only 50 pages in, and I wanna buy everybody a copy. It's very good and explains a lot. But one of the things i- I was reading about recently was, like, community and this idea of storytelling and connection, and how much it not only benefits the recipient, but the giver- the storyteller and the storytellee. Like, literally the chemicals that are released in your brain and, and the health-wise, how it helps both. [00:15:00] And it, it really made me think about that, too, and when you were talking about your example, like being invited out, it not only helped you, but it also surely helped them.

And I had a social engagement this weekend, too, where normally I would say no, 'cause it's a bit of an energy stretch for me. But I had this feeling like, no, you know what? This is gonna be a yes. We're going. And we went, and it was lovely, and it was a bit of a stretch for me, but I could see how much joy it brought to the hostess that I had come, you know?

Like, so it was this nice reciprocal... I don't know. Everybody benefited, and it was just, like you said, stepping out a little bit and trusting that- What came in for you is for you 

Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and I think that, w- I don't, I don't know what you've heard, but I, I feel like sometimes I can get into this protect my energy standpoint, and so I'm trying to make sure...

Because I do really enjoy people. I do really enjoy things, and I also do need a lot of, [00:16:00] like, down, quiet, alone time to decompress and, like, process and just have that. And so when I am in a mode where I feel like I need to protect my energy, and so I need to say no to things, and not that that's bad, but I really have to be careful about finding that in between where I'm not getting overly protective, where I'm not saying no to more things than I need to because I'm afraid it's gonna take from me, because that's just another version of lack, is that I think that I only have this finite source of energy and if I give it away, then I'm gonna be depleted for the rest of the time.

And that's not always true, because I can do some of these things and they can actually give me energy. 

K. Margaret: I was just about to say that I often- Yeah ... misjudge based on old rules. Oh, that's gon- like you said, that'll take energy. That won't give it to me, or, oh, that won't be fun. That'll be, like, a negative.

N- not factoring in kind of my new self or, or the fact that I know that anything is [00:17:00] possi- you know? Like, I put rules on it before it's even happened. Mm-hmm. And I'll often, i- in my old habits, protect my energy for, like, the not fun stuff. 

Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. 

K. Margaret: Like, the work and the- Mm-hmm ... chores, and easily say no to the fun stuff that probably would've been energy returning.

Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, because we, we have a hard time saying no to the things that are draining our energy because they're our responsibilities, our obligations. And so then to be able to bring in and say, "Oh, well, I don't have any energy," and then I'm gonna live in that same thing and I'm gonna go the next day and I'm gonna have the same responsibilities, but I'm not- Well, that's the thing

bringing anything in. 

K. Margaret: Not everything- Yeah ... has to get done today of those responsibilities. I always have to remind myself, 'cause this weekend my list did not get done and I was quite sad at myself. But what really had to get done did get done. 

Speaker 2: Right, and how many of the responsibilities that we have are not...

It's not like a one and done. I'm not gonna do the- No ... dishes today and then, oh, phew, that's off my plate for the week. No, it's just [00:18:00] gonna keep happening. So I have, I have gotten in those modes too where I'm like, "Oh, I need to re- reset the house. I need to get whatever," and I'm like, "Ugh, that feels really good."

Like, I spent the whole day getting everything ready, and the next day everything is trashed again. And, and, like, feeling like, oh my gosh, my efforts are not... I could have probably used that. And so that is, I think, part of that, like, saying yes. It's where can you look at in your life the things that you have, the roles and the responsibilities that you have, do what you need to, because there are things that we all need to do.

We can't abandon it forever. But also, where are you maybe overdoing, where you think that, like, you're just trying to get through something for that sense of accomplishment that will be short-lived, likely, if your household is anything like mine. Or where can I bring in more of those things that are bringing me energy, that are doing, and say no to some of the responsibilities that are just gonna...

They're gonna still be there. They're still gonna be there when I come back. 

K. Margaret: And [00:19:00] also using your wonderful alignment strategy. You're so good at keeping values. Like you said, hey, wait, I want more, like, travel experience. I wanna get out more. I wanna have connection. I wanna see something different, and here's an opportunity that's aligned with that value or that w- desire for this month.

Like, why wouldn't I say yes? Mm-hmm. You know, like you talked yourself into it ra- I wanna say rationally, but y- not just pure energy, but also- Yeah ... thinking about, like, oh, strategically this is what I want more in my life. Okay, I'm gonna have to do things a little differently. Let's try this.

Speaker 2: Yeah, and looking at, like, where are those opportunities for bringing in more of that strategy. So speaking of that, we are, you know, we're ending May. We're starting in June. This is a big transition for a lot of our listeners. This is a big transition for a lot of our, our people. I mean, even as a homeschool mom where we school year-round, it's still a transition because what our days [00:20:00] look like is different and- Looking at that, when I looked into May and I wanted, like, this, like, say yes more, do more of these things, I think that I also was able to bring in and upgrade some of my systemization of what I'm doing.

So I didn't feel like I was having to drop the ball on a bunch of things in order to bring in more of these fun things. I was able to, like, rework all of these things. I thought my website and going through that was just gonna be a giant nightmare, and I had been putting it off for a year. And I was able to do it in, like, a week and a half- Yay

and be able to get it all done. And it was not a big thing. It gave me energy to do it. But looking at some of those things and saying, like, okay, as we grow, as we change, like you had talked about, like, I... how am I looking at things from a lens of maybe a previous version of me, or where those rules don't all- don't exist anymore?

And where am I looking at and maybe have an idealized [00:21:00] version of me that I'm not quite at yet? And so I'm thinking the things are gonna look... and I'm gonna have so much more capacity. So when I'm looking at the summer, I'm trying to find that sweet spot in between and be like, where can I look at and say, like, these things are running really smoothly and we have the ability to bring in more of the, this stuff.

I can say yes more. And also, what is the intention that I wanna go into it with? What are the values and the things that I want to make sure that I'm doing so I have that Northern Star to guide me as I'm moving through what can sometimes be a bit of chaos, especially, you know, as it goes on. So looking at and noticing, like, m- we did so many things.

I said yes so much in May, and I was able to do a lot of, like, all of these other things in business and, and our household stuff and all of these things. Also, I'm not gonna be able to sustain that pace the whole time. And I want to [00:22:00] make sure that as I'm saying yes, that I'm looking at and, and being able to give space for making sure that I have alone time so I'm not constantly in this expanse, expanse, expanse, but also processing time.

Like, where do I need to fit some of that stuff in as well, and what are the feelings that I wanna get moving into this next season? 

K. Margaret: Yeah. Summer, here we come. 

Summer, 

Speaker 2: here we come. 

K. Margaret: The phrase that I kept hearing in May, and I don't usually use myself, is glow up. And when you were talking, I was reminded of that.

So I think I'm gonna aim for a glow up this summer and just relax the routine a little bit. I mean, there's... n- I can't relax everything, but mentally, you know, not hold it so tight, and then allow for that space to aim a little higher, do some of those other... You know, like there are some improvements I wanna do to the [00:23:00] podcast, or you were talking like website.

That's been on my list for a while. Or, I mean, there are plenty of projects in the house that have been on the list for a while. So slowly work on those. And like you said, a lot of times they take a lot less time than the fear is telling you it'll take. And I, I think I'm just gonna view it as a glow up.

But like you said, the summer in itself, the day is just longer. So maybe you have a few hours in the evening that we don't usually use. But how can we... Like, I know my family's gotten a lot more into sports. My, our kids have done a lot more sports. My husband's running, racing regularly, and there was just this call to do more of that, and great activity for the summer, healthy for everybody.

Great. Let's learn the perks that are in our town. You know, like stepping out a little bit that way spending more out- time outside and, and like you said, still looking for the moments of rest within the week. But allowing the natural unfolding. [00:24:00] You know, even with meals, you know? S- I'm so strict sometimes about meals, but what if we just follow when we're hungry and we have the food available, and not worry so much about the timing of things 'cause there's not school day hours to contend with too, and millions of snacks.

Yes. So I'm aiming for glow up and reflecting what you said, allow more and not hold myself so tightly to keeping that same push pace. And not that I feel like I'm pushing, but the expansion. 

Speaker 2: Yeah. 

K. Margaret: Yeah, the rate. 

Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay, a couple things came up, and I think that one, when you were talking, I know that I said the same thing too, and when you were talking it made me reflect back on, on my conversation before too, that having the fun and doing the things does not have to be mutually exclusive to my rest.

How can I do the things and have the fun and feel rested and recharged? And [00:25:00] I think that that is something that we can kind of see sometimes, and I know that I can sometimes get into that where it's like I have to plan all the things, I have to pack all the food, I have to... and all of the things- Mm-hmm

to do the fun thing turns into just a bunch of chores. Where how can I... And the second thing that came up was that, like, how can I let this be easy? How can I let myself continue to expand and evolve as a person, as a creator, as an all these things, bring in more of this fun, be able to have those moments, and be able to reconnect with myself on even just in the, the littler moments.

So maybe I don't need these giant chunks of time that I thought that I needed before, because I'm feeling so much more connected and grounded to myself that I am not swaying in the breeze so much. Mm. And I have these really good roots, and so it doesn't maybe take as much for me to be able to recharge.

And how can I just stay? And I think maybe [00:26:00] for the summer having, like, attunement. How can I just attune to what the energy is in the house, to what my goals are, to the opportunities that I'm allowing in, and how can I just continue to just navigate with that, knowing my values and my intentions that I'm putting forward, but allowing that flexibility?

K. Margaret: And to bring it right back to the beginning of the conversation, what you said, that attunement then is to the internal validation, and really letting those external validators fall away so that you can- Feel good and know it yourself and not counted on some external points or whatever it is. 

Speaker 2: Ugh, absolutely.

Are we ready? 

K. Margaret: We're ready. 

Speaker 2: Okay. It feels like a good segue. Okay so this month I pulled, and it is a dormant volcano here. 

K. Margaret: [00:27:00] Oh, my goodness. 

Speaker 2: It's potential. 

K. Margaret: Potential. 

Potential. Oh, perfect. 

Speaker 2: Always. The volcano at rest. Volcanoes erupt in places where the Earth's plates meet and where there are cracks, through which lava emerges either explosively or by flowing more slowly down a cinder cone.

Even when a volcano is at rest, there is always the possibility of a huge eruption. There is the potential of great power. There are very few things on this planet more commanding than an erupting volcano. The archetypal person personality of a volcano is one of wild, unpredictable, and formidable energy.

This card appears when you are ready to activate your potential and to step into your strength. This is the time to activate those gifts that you've had on the back burner in your life. You have incredible untapped potential. This is the time to allow it to [00:28:00] flow. An inner wellspring of power is emerging.

You have a profound spiritual power that is deep within you. Do not doubt your great authority and capabilities. A dormant volcano might indicate that you have uncomfortable emotions that you are repressing or keeping inside, thus creating emotional stress and inner pressure. It can also mean that you are on the verge of a great expansion of energy and life force.

K. Margaret: I'm so excited for us- ... and everyone listening. This is gonna be such a good summer. 

Speaker 2: It's gonna be a- I mean- ... such a good summer ... 

K. Margaret: what a tumultuous start to the year. I would just say when everyone was like, "Excuse me, energy, what?" 

Speaker 2: Wow. Yes. 

K. Margaret: And so we're coming out of it, and that's what we start our summer with.

Hello dormant, amazing, you know, like power. That's what it said. The just, just the potential. I think there is such relief, wisdom, [00:29:00] and what's the other word I want? In, in acknowledging the power that you have in, and not feeling the need to express it. Like, the quiet, that quiet power of like, "I know. I know I'm enough.

I know I'm worth it. I know, I know I'm gon- this is all gonna be okay. I know I'm gonna figure it out. I know..." Like, all that potential, and kind of what grace that gives us to walk through, or glow up, or whatever opportunities we see, or mind shift we're working on. That's just awesome. 

Speaker 2: Well, and when you're saying that too, it's...

You can't force a volcano to explode. It explodes when it's ready, when the pressure is built up, when all of the life force- Yes ... that's in is ready to come out. So all we're here doing is just cultivating that life force and enjoying that energy buildup, and it's- 

K. Margaret: Well, and that it- 

Speaker 2: It... I'm all... Yeah ... 

K. Margaret: sorry, interrupted again.

That flip of negative to positive. This book I'm reading on menopause where, like, all [00:30:00] these symptoms are often feel so damning, and I'd like... Apparently the suicide rate for women in their 40s is ridiculously high. Oh 

Speaker 2: my 

K. Margaret: gosh. Mm-hmm. But that's just 'cause, like, isolation and i- education. We think, "Oh God, is this the way I'm gonna be for the rest of my life?"

Or- Mm-hmm ... this is so heavy to w- walk through the d- like, it's so disorienting. And then to realize, like, it teaches h- how it's part of this process to the next better you, the f- 42% of your life will be actually spent- Yeah ... the best when you get post this. Feels that way for the volcano. Like, the volcano is always this massive, destructive, dark, scary.

Mm-hmm. If someone is, like, explosive, that means they're- No ... uncontrolled anger, uncontrolled wild. Like, it's not seen as a positive thing, and I feel like this potential card is like, nope. It just means you're capable of, "Hello world, can't ignore me." You know? Like, it's just, it's just available [00:31:00] that... You know, and even lava, right?

The magma from the center of the earth, that's never-ending. That's always flowing. 

Speaker 2: Yep. 

K. Margaret: I find it exciting. 

Speaker 2: Yes. And it's so much like, the magma and it's coming through, and then we're just allowing little spouts. And anybody who's, who's willing to hold that life force and hold that- 

K. Margaret: Life force. Good word.

Speaker 2: Yeah 

K. Margaret: Amen. 

Speaker 2: All right. Thank you so much, K. Margaret. 

K. Margaret: Thank you. A 

Speaker 2: pleasure. 

K. Margaret: Yeah, as always. Happy June. 

Speaker 2: Happy June