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From Burnout to Breakthrough: How Jay Jackson Rebuilt His Life After Hitting Rock Bottom
What happens when your identity is stripped away and you're forced to start over?
In this powerful episode of the Bella Grace Podcast, Teresa sits down with Jay Jackson—Air Force veteran, entrepreneur, and systems strategist—to talk about hitting rock bottom and the gritty, grace-filled comeback that followed. From foreclosure and burnout to building a global movement and guiding others to "work less and profit more," Jay shares how shifting his mindset, redefining his values, and setting up powerful systems transformed his life.
Together, Teresa and Jay discuss addiction, burnout, identity, emotional stunting, and why clarity and automation are non-negotiable for sustainable success. Whether you're a high achiever, a recovering perfectionist, or someone trying to realign your life, this episode is packed with wisdom you don’t want to miss.
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Hello and welcome to another episode of the Bella Grace podcast, where we are helping high achievers break free from mindsets, behaviors and addictions that are holding them back from reaching their true potential. And today we are doing that by talking to my new friend, jay Jackson. Jay Jackson isn't your average entrepreneur. He's an Air Force veteran turned comeback king. Jay hit rock bottom after facing bankruptcy and foreclosure after leaving the military, but he didn't stay down. Now he's building brands, closing deals globally and helping thought leaders, coaches and experts multiply their impact, income and authority. Welcome to the show, jay. How are you?
Speaker 2:Outstanding. Teresa, Thank you for having me on this particular episode. We're going to have a lot of fun talking about grace and addiction and how we can overcome the mindsets that are keeping us stuck.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, I love it. So tell us a little bit about your journey, because I read some of it and that was a huge teaser. So give us more. Let us know how you got to where you are today.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I won't take you around the world, but I will tell you that I made one of the greatest decisions that I ever made in 1999, when I joined the United States Air Force. It was the best decision I ever made because I knew I was going to either end up dead or in jail because I was just a knucklehead running through my old neighborhood doing what knuckleheads do. Because I was just a knucklehead running through my old neighborhood doing what knuckleheads do and so joining the military. They stripped away a lot of my civilian ways and behaviors and rebuilt me up to be a military man, and I loved everything about it. I was traveling across the globe, meeting people that I would have never met, playing with toys, visiting countries that I never would have had the opportunity to enjoy and experience if not for making that decision.
Speaker 2:My career was at a point where it was truly starting to take off. I had just gotten promoted, I was getting ready to take on a superintendent role and then, unfortunately, like most corporations, the Air Force did a downsizing after the Iraq and Afghanistan wars and a couple hundred thousand of us had to find what we were going to do with the rest of our lives. And so, because my career was at a great point, I was a full time single father. All of my mentors and peers were telling me hey, you're going to go straight to the top if you stay on the path that you're on. So this was pretty devastating for me. My identity was wrapped up in being a military member. I didn't know anything about being a civilian, so everything that I knew was about being in the culture of structure, systems, processes, teamwork, mission, to work hard, play hard, long hours, grind, grind, grind, grind.
Speaker 2:I automatically reverted back to that mentality once I jumped into entrepreneurship and so, even though I had already been a hustler on the side while I was in the uniform, this time was different, because there was no dependable, you know, every two week check and there was no safety and security. There were no benefits for me to go to the doctor anymore. It was all on my shoulders and I didn't know at that time that I didn't have the proper mindset to be an entrepreneur, to manage my money properly, to be responsible, you know, for building the systems, the team and the infrastructure. And so it led to burnout. I was working long hours burning a candle at both ends, you know, watching all the outdated YouTube videos, reading the Google articles, doing all the stuff trying to figure it all out. And then one day I passed out while at the gym, getting out of the shower, and, yes, I was naked. And so I ended up in the hospital for three days with dehydration and exhaustion.
Speaker 2:And that was a turning point for me where I realized that I needed to make some changes, and those changes needed to be made within my mentality and my perspective and how I saw myself and how I showed up in the world. And so, since building a system, building the infrastructure we have a little small team behind me that supports this mission of ours to transform 10 billion lives across the globe. We are building the infrastructure to make sure that's sustainable, because I know that we don't even have 8 billion people I guess you know on the planet right now. So how am I going to get to 10? And that means that this is something that has to last, even, you know, after I'm dead and gone. And so, right now, coaches, thought leaders and experts they come to me so that I can help them work less to profit more by building out their systems, their infrastructure and their team so that they can just show up and do the things that they love, serve their clients and live the lifestyle that they started their business to do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Wow.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 2:Wow, no, I'll let you breathe, I'll breathe with you, right?
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, no, so I thought it was. So I am in recovery for drugs and alcohol and I talk about all the time how, when you get sober, you are emotionally, mentally, the same age that you were when you started using, because drugs and alcohol stunt your emotional social growth and so you're starting back where you were when you started using. It stuck out to me when you said I didn't know how to be a civilian, like you didn't know how to operate in civilian world, and I just saw the similarities of when we lived a certain way for so long. It can be hard to transition to this new way of living. And the same thing with your burnout. You were so used to grind, grind, grind that you didn't even realize that you were pushing yourself to the limit until you literally fell out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the ability for you to see the parallels is perfect, because it's exactly that we are conditioned. All of our behaviors are conditioned. Habits are conditioned behaviors, right, and so, as you I'm sure you know, and someone who has been through a two-week out treatment or outpatient program I haven't been in anything beyond that. But even that experience taught me the importance of the environments that we hang out in, the people that we associate with. All of those things contribute to the conditioning and the programming. And, disrespectful your behavior is costing you your job. But because it's your norm and you're always in environments or hanging around people who are normally behaving that way, when someone else comes along and says, hey, your addiction or your behavior is causing problems for us or for this environment, you immediately you know there's a cognitive dissonance where your mind is telling you that this is the proper behavior, but everything outside of you is telling you that this is impractical behavior, right, and so, yeah, I agree that there are similarities to it.
Speaker 2:But I also believe from experience and also from studying and from getting support and counseling, I know that we can also change our conditioning and our programming. We can change our habits and our actions and our words, because now we're no longer in the same state, we no longer have the same feelings that are driving us or emotions that are driving us so similar to like what you were saying about how, when we start to drink alcohol or take drugs, our emotional growth is stunted. Just like I said to you, when I joined the military, my civilian understanding and growth was stunted. And so once you start to come out of that conditioning, that programming, that culture, that environment, you have moments where you're still trying to figure out what's reality, what's not reality, who we're modeling, is the love that I'm getting from people? Is that genuine? Is my perspective on things the proper perspective? And so I totally understand, you know, just kind of having a lot of thoughts that bounce around and just trying to figure it out and rediscover yourself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, people, places and things is what they say when you get sober. They're like you got to change your people, your places and your things, and I think that that is similar or there's a parallel there, too, with mindset and the potential to be burned out. So I know I left my corporate job to pursue my passion of helping people overcome mindsets, behaviors and addictions that are holding them back. For some people, leaving their job is not an option, or maybe it is their passion, but they're getting burned out and so they can't change their place right, like they can't change their actual job. But there are ways to still create balance and avoid that burnout and, like you said, it starts with changing your mindset.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the biggest thing is a shift in your perspective, right? So the greatest shift, at least for me, has been the shift in my perspective around who I am right, and I think, once I was able to make that shift in my perspective around who I am right and I think, once I was able to make that shift in my own identity, it allowed me to see people, places and things through a different lens. And then, once I'm able to see people, places and things through a different lens, I'm now able to one, as I said earlier, manage my own emotions around people, places and things and not allow those people, places and things to sway my emotions to happy and positive or to negative, stress and depressed. And so all of those mental states on that spectrum that I'm referring to, all of those mental states drive our emotions because our thoughts create our feelings. Those mental states drive our emotions because our thoughts create our feelings and then our feelings create our actions. And so if you're not aware of how these people, places and things make you think, then you won't be aware of how they make you feel and then, therefore, you won't be able to tell hey, this is the proper behavior for me around people, places and things. Do I need to set up some boundaries around these people, places and things? Do I need to set up some boundaries around these people, places and things?
Speaker 2:When I do go to work or when I do go into whatever job that the people you're referring to, who can't step away, I can walk into it, understanding and I'm sure this will resonate with you the serenity prayer God, grant me the serenity to accept the things that I cannot change, the courage to change the things that I can't, and then the wisdom to know the difference. And so I think, once we have that wisdom to know the difference, you can walk into every single environment that you ever walk into and you get to understand that is beyond my control. I have absolutely nothing to do with that. I have absolutely nothing to do with that or this is within my control. Let me act accordingly, because now I know that, if I act accordingly, this scenario will work out positively for the results or the outcome that I want, which is to be happy when people like I didn't like in the military, I had a very little control over a lot of things, and I think when we are in those environments that are high pressure, sometimes it could be our home environment where our parents are putting undue pressure, it could be in our work environment.
Speaker 2:But when we are in those types of environments, a lot of times we use the alcohol and the drugs to escape, right To numb ourselves from whatever it is that we either went through as a child or went through even as an adult right, because sometimes we experience traumatic things in our adult life that create an emotional kind of stunting, as you brought up earlier, and then we start to utilize substances to kind of numb ourselves or balance ourselves or distance ourselves and isolate ourselves from the world. And so, yeah, I just highly recommend to people is you know, study that serenity prayer like really, you know, commit it to your programming and your conditioning and then practically apply that in every scenario of your life. I think it's reduced my stress when people be like you just don't care about anything. No, I care about everything. I just know what I can control and know what I can't control.
Speaker 1:I'm in grad school, getting my, finally getting my degree in addiction counseling so that I can sit for the LPC exam. So that I can yes, so that I can add counseling to my coaching practice, because when you look at addiction, it's never just the here and now, there's always roots in the past and I want to have that well-rounded package for my clients, but so right now I refer them out gotcha. So it'll be nice to be able to do both, but anyway, I am in grad school for the second time.
Speaker 2:this is my second master's, because I'm crazy but you're yeah, that's Professional student is what you're saying.
Speaker 1:Yes, and then I'll be getting my PhD after this. It's so yeah, my husband is like I said I'm almost done, babe, I'm almost done. He's like who are you kidding? You're never going to be done.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think the purpose behind you going to school and getting your degrees. I think that is a valid reason so that you can provide better wraparound services for your clients, and so I applaud you for going forward and getting that education. Most people would run from it Any type of advanced degrees most people, not all, but most people run from those advanced degrees. So when someone's pursuing it, I always congratulate them. But then I say, hey, all right, now you have to take that degree. What you've learned practically apply it and continue to grow to become a specialist at what you do, because that's the only way you're going to get the fulfillment, the big money and the best relationships, at least in my mind.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and so I tell people I'm like look well, people tell me they're like I don't know how you do it all because I'm in grad school. I have a photography business that I'm like has kind of taken a side burner because I primarily focus on my coaching and my nonprofit job. So I am in grad school, I'm a photographer, I have my coaching business and I also work for a nonprofit that does low income or life enrichment programs at affordable housing complexes across the country, and so I'm a very busy person and my employees always laugh because they're like Teresa, I don't know how she does it Like. She is just like okay, get it done, let's push through it, and then she's perfectly fine, like whatever. And it really goes back to what you were saying.
Speaker 1:Like the serenity prayer was instilled in me when I was in treatment and when I was in recovery and I have made it my mantra and that's how I look at life is can I control this? If I can't control this, then it's not my worry, right, like it's not my stress. And I always tell people too, like you can't control other people, the only thing you can control is how you react to other people. For sure and I was. I wasn't always this way. I was you. I didn't pass out naked in the shower at the gym, but I was pretty dang close.
Speaker 2:The thing about it is some people like to say it's addictive personality disorder, but I like to tell people it is truly the definition of obsessive compulsive disorder. And so and I say disorder only because that's the label that the scientific and medical world has put on it but I don't think it's a disorder. I think for people like us who have high performance mentalities, who have that I can get it all done kind of mentality, we have to channel that energy and our focus into things to not allow our addictions, the negative things, to overtake and consume us. And so one of the things that I, like you, I used to have multiple, you know, different projects that I was working on. And then I worked with a coach and a mentor who told me he was like have you ever went rabbit hunting? And at the time I'd never. I still haven't been rabbit hunting. But he says have you ever been rabbit hunting? And I was like nope. Why would you ask me this? He says because one thing that you know is when you go rabbit hunting, if you chase two rabbits, you'll catch none.
Speaker 2:And what he basically was saying is you's difficult for us to channel our energy into one thing because we're like squirrel, I can go catch it. Oh squirrel, I do go catch. Oh, rabbit, I do go catch it. But once we start to realize that the reality is, we are splintering ourselves, we're never, ever going to be able to commit our laser focus to one thing, to where it becomes hot enough for us to experience a breakthrough, because you're basically splinting your energy, you're splinting your power and your focus, and so, for me, what I had to do is I had to just go all in. Like you, I still have our ministry that we run and I still have our business that we run. That's all I focus on, and I'm able to commit myself to those two things every single day. Everything else my wife takes care of, because if I'm involved in all of those other things, I'll end up naked on a shower floor again.
Speaker 1:Yes, and that is the key, like that's what I tell people. So the photography business, like I said, taking a back burner, I only work with the people that have been with me for years and it's once a year to do their family photos or to do their kids' graduation photos. That's it. Like I've gotten to where I'm like, nope, not taking any new clients. Like, unless you have my personal cell phone number, you are not getting in because you do.
Speaker 1:And I, what I do is I time block my stuff. I have time on my calendar for homework. I have time on my calendar for dinner. I have time on my calendar for washing the dishes, because that's actually therapeutic to me. For some strange reason Mine is cooking and grilling, so I get it for a while and then I wash the dishes and that signals to my brain that it's kind of time to start winding down.
Speaker 1:But I have to time block because I'm not at a place where I can completely get rid of school, right, so that's not going anywhere. But having that laser focus on that task during that time I have found has helped me because I don't get sidetracked and say, oh, I'm on this podcast episode, but let me go over here and check my email. No, when it is time to check the email, I will check the email right now. This is where I am, and that is not just for work, it's for family too. If I my daughter and I go for a walk every morning, and she will call me on it. If I pull out my phone and start checking my email on our walk, she'll say put your phone away, it's our phone free time.
Speaker 2:I love it. No, I so. For me, I was. I learned that it comes down to your values, right. Once you get clear on your values, you're then able to make time for the things that are important to you. And, like you, I live off of my calendar. If it's not on my calendar, it doesn't get done. And so you know when people are like, hey, you know, can we go do this? And they're like what time? And they're like well, why are you always asking me what time? Because I need to know. Do I have the time available to go and do this? And if so, there's no other conflicts you know that are going to come in.
Speaker 2:That's what has allowed me to stay laser focused, because all of my time is allotted from things that I value. So, for example, you know my personal values, our company values and it is also the name of our ministry is serve, impact, prosper. That's only because I believe that serving people, solving people's problems, is the greatest form of leadership. That's the best way that you can show up and say I see you, I understand where you are. Because of my own experiences, I know exactly what it takes to get from where you are to where you want to be. Here's my hand, let me guide you. And when you do that, you will make an impact Like it's inevitable. It's impossible for you not to make a positive impact on people's lives when you are being that leader, that guide and helping solve people's problems, and then inevitably you will prosper.
Speaker 2:And I know a lot of times people think prosperity is only limited to money, and I tell them no, I want to prosper in my money, for sure, but my relationships and my health and even in my experiences. And so I always tell people let's get clear on your boundaries, right, I try to tell people you know route that three mark, no more than five. Just get clear on those three to five things that are just completely non-negotiable and I'm going to live according to these every single day. When you do that, your world becomes so narrow, right, you're able to just kind of block out things. Your reticular activating system, which is your RAS, your ability to identify things, it will no longer search for or see, hey, kitty, it will no longer see or search for those things that used to get your attention. And so I always tell people get clear of your values, it'll narrow your focus and it'll allow you to stay locked in on the things that are important and you'll keep yourself out of trouble. At least that's what has worked for me.
Speaker 1:Well, no, and I think that's so important. You said you, so you help people tackle their mindset, overcome limiting mindsets, setting values. That's so important. You're right, it sets the guardrails for your life. It helps you set healthy boundaries. It it is, it's the roadmap that you live your life on. It is and I tell people all the time I'm like my values are family experiences and joy, like if it doesn't bring me joy, sorry. I tell my clients all the time I'm like if it's not a hell yes, then it's a hell no. Like if it is outside of your values, right. Like if it doesn't completely align with your values, or if it's a question of like is this going to for me, is this going to be a good experience? If it's not a hell yes, then it's a hell no, but it does. It gives you boundaries.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean it, it, it create. It will create for those who are listening. If you are getting ready to start this process. If you are getting ready to start this process, it is going to create conflicts in your life, and what I mean by conflicts is those people that you used to associate with, or those places and things that you used to frequent. You're going to stop frequenting those people, places and things, and those people specifically are going to have a problem with you no longer coming around. They're going to say things like do you think you're better than us? And I'm telling you from experience.
Speaker 2:I actually had an aunt say that to me and I was like, no, I don't think I'm better than anyone. I love everyone. I still want to be around everyone, but, like you said, the map of my life or the guardrails of my life, no one will allow me to be in certain environments, doing certain things or being around certain people, and so you have to be okay with saying, hey, I'm going to limit my time, even if it's going to see family, especially if you know family is a trigger for you that causes you to go back and participate in the things addictions, et cetera. And now and I want to be clear to everyone that addictions aren't just alcohol and drugs. Add things addictions, et cetera. And now, and I want to be clear to everyone that addictions aren't just alcohol and drugs Addiction could be sex, Addiction could be food, Addiction could be porn. There's just so many. The gamut of addiction is a long laundry list, right, and it's dirty.
Speaker 2:But at the same time you have to be able to say this person, this place, this thing triggers me and it causes me to feel whatever it is that I felt when I was a three-year-old boy, when I was molested, when I was a seven-year-old little girl, when my mom yelled at me for something, or when I was the 19-year-old young lady who was sexually assaulted on college campus, whatever it might be. You have to get clear on what's the root cause of those feelings and those emotions. And like I'm a guy I love to guard who be out in the yard, I tell people those are like negative weeds, Like you have to get underneath that root, and I mean get underneath it and pull it all out. It's going to be hard the longer that root has been there. It's going to be dirty, because the dirt is dirty and it's nasty.
Speaker 2:But once you pull it out, it's so fulfilling because all the hard work that you've put into pulling out those negative weeds in their life, it's so refreshing because now you can say you know what in the trash with you, or any incinerator or in this pile that I'm going to set on fire over here because I don't want you to set root into my lawn, my mind, ever again, because I want to live healthy, I want to have a prosperous, luxurious, luscious lawn, so to speak. And I'm kind of using an analogy with your brain, because your mind is the most furthest soil on the planet.
Speaker 1:And that is something that I struggle with with my clients is getting them to understand that mind, body, soul connection. Right, because if you are putting yourself in situations so if you're at work or in your business, whatever, and you don't have parameters, you don't know what your business values are, you don't know what your personal values are, you are going to continue to put yourself in situations that stress you out, that overload you, that go against your personal values. You're going to continue to be in these rooms talking to these people or making negotiations with companies that you don't necessarily want to work with, because you haven't laid out the foundation of who you are, what your values are or what your business values are. If it is your personal business and that takes a toll on your mind and your body, it is not just stress that just exists. It can lead to depression, it can lead to anxiety, it can lead to heart issues, it can lead to digestive issues.
Speaker 1:It is a snowball effect and the way to stop it is to figure out who you are, who you want to be, who you want your business to be like, what you want your business to be, so that you can start to put those parameters up, put those boundaries up, understand the direction that you're going and delegate as needed. And I know this is kind of what you do is try to help people delegate and get more of their time back so that they can do what they love. And I know it's really hard for me to delegate. It is really hard for me because I'm like, okay, it's, I don't, it's going to take me longer to explain to someone, explain to my VA, explain to whoever how to do this than it would be for me to just do it myself, and that is backwards thinking.
Speaker 2:Hey, you said it, not me, so we'll just leave it there for now. Yeah, so the one thing that I've discovered, teresa, throughout my experience and this is something that I share with my clients, and that is most times that fear or concern that you have around I can do it better myself is rooted in some kind of childhood trauma, where you know you got in trouble for something because it wasn't done good enough or it wasn't done well enough or whatever right. Or somebody says you're not good enough, cute enough, tall enough, smart enough, whatever it might be, and so we don't want to put our comfort or our future or our safety in the hands of someone else. And so I get it. Trust me, I totally get it. As a recovery perfectionist, I get it All right. But one thing that I've learned is, once we have clarity on exactly how we want a particular task to be done because we ourselves have done it that way multiple times and we now know that this way works the best thing for us to do in those scenarios is put it on paper, because once you document it and you put it on paper now, your documentation can be several methods, because everyone learns differently, and this is something that we do within our company. We document in three ways. Well, it's one way, but it covers all three ways. So we cover the visual, the auditory and the actual physical piece of reading it on paper.
Speaker 2:What I do is, once we have an SOP, a standard operating procedure, dialed in the way that I want it to be done, I'll actually jump on a loon, share my screen and I'll record, walking through step by step, how that SOP is to be executed. And then I now have that document and I have this video recording the loon recording that I can then give to new team members. And now those new team members have the exact instructions that they need to follow the SOP, to do it the exact same way that I have done it. And with that SOP in their hands and because I've done it multiple times, I can easily recognize when something's not being done according to the SOP. And then that's what allows me to go back to my team member and say, hey, I noticed that you just did task Z. And they go yeah, I did task Z, however, but you missed step three. And they're like how the heck did I miss step three? And then I can go back and say, well, because step one, you were supposed to do this. Step two, you were supposed to do this. Step three, you were supposed to do this, but I can tell step three wasn't done and they're like well, how the heck did you know that? Because I'm the one who created the SOP. I have done this task multiple times and I know it works. So if you follow this SOP, you will be successful in your role, and I will then have peace of mind, knowing that you're doing it the exact way that I want it to be done. And if you can't do it the way that I want it to be done, I'm going to go find someone else who will do it the way I want it to be done.
Speaker 2:But that's the most important thing for me is, once you dialed in and got a process exactly, you know it works this way Go ahead, document it. Pass that responsibility off to someone else, because you're now going to be able to work less. You'll buy back your time. Most importantly, you'll be able to profit more. And I tell people, when we talk about profit, yes, it's the financial profit of your business, but think about how much more time you now have to do the things that you love, you talk about your husband, you got your kitty cat, you know, floating around on the screen with us right now and I just I say all of that when I say profit, like there's so much that opens up to you in life when you're not in the weeds doing all of the things yourself.
Speaker 2:Another piece that I help our clients with is setting up their automations right so that the automations and the technology can do the heavy lifting for you. Because when you have the heavy lifting being done by automation, you never have to worry about yourself or your member of your team getting sick. You never have to worry about whether or not an email or a text message is going to go out on time. You never have to worry about the consistency and the predictability of you being able to generate income, because your automations are doing the work and the heavy lifting for you. And so I always tell CEOs set up some automations for 95% of everything in your business. If you can automate it, automate it right, and for those other you know maybe three or 4% you delegate that out to a VA or someone else. That way the 1% like the big, important things that only you can do it allows you to show up and be the greatest version of yourself while doing those things.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love that. And I was just talking to someone else about this, I was like, oh, I switched systems to get better automation. And you were actually like the third person that was like I can't find the video link and I'm like, because I was like I thought it was all set up in this new system, I'm like, okay, I'm really thinking that it's not working for me, because I expect that when I set up an automation, it is taken care of Like it's done. I should not have to have hands up back on it. And now I'm realizing that there is an issue with this automation and it has not been this one.
Speaker 2:So I won't say what system I use, but I am this close to oh it's true, yeah, so let's, let's, let's slide into getting yourself some grace Right, because we all go through that process, right. Grace right, because we all go through that process, right, like when I first started this back in 2016,. It was like automations and the tech was like learning a foreign language without a translator, right? And so we all have those moments where, oh my God, there's a glitch, or oh my God, this isn't firing properly, or, oh my God, there's always going to be something until you actually get them set up properly. But once you have them set up properly, you never have to touch it again, right? As long as that system or that CRM platform is still in business, that system is going to work automatically on schedule every single time. So give yourself some grace that you have figured that without that.
Speaker 2:But at the same time, you know, I don't, I recommend that you don't give up because it is. It's like I literally tell people I don't work anymore, like everything that I do is truly fun. Whenever there's time for me to, you know, coach a client, do an event, be on a podcast, all I have to do is literally walk into this room one, two, three, four lights, turn on this screen, fire the camera and that's litter and I just stand here and do it, but that's only because we now have automations and a team in place that allow that type of freedom, and so anybody, if you're listening to this, I highly recommend get some support. Reach out to Teresa for support with your counseling and your coaching, but then, most importantly you know, get some support in your business, or someone who can help you set up your infrastructure, your teams, your SOPs and your automations, because that's business you don't have. You truly don't have a business until you have systems, processes and a team in place don't have a business until you have systems, processes and a team in place.
Speaker 1:Yeah for sure. I think that's so important. There's a lot of coaches out there who are mindset coaches. There's business strategist coaches, there's automation coaches. There's a coach out there for everything. And I heard someone say, well, I already have a business coach and I was like but what are they working with you on? Because I always highly recommend my clients. My clients see a dietician, they see a counselor, they see me for the mindset and recovery piece of it. Depending on their at-home situation, I usually have them see a relationship coach Because you need to mend your relationships, especially if you're one of my recovery clients, if you're one of my mindset clients, it usually helps to have a relationship coach anyway.
Speaker 1:But having those pieces are so important because it helps you. If you're in the growth, the growth, the growth point of your business right, like you're just getting started or you're in the very beginning of your journey, on whatever it is, it can help to have specialized people to help you in all aspects. But also that admin side of like, even if you're not a business owner, even if you're a stay-at-home mom, I highly suggest having some sort of personal assistant who can go do the crap, can go get your dry cleaning, can run to the bank and make that deposit, whatever it is, because, at the end of the day, we weren't made for hustle and bustle, we were made for community.
Speaker 2:For sure. Yeah, like I'm a huge sports guy, right? So I grew up running track, playing basketball, playing football and the biggest thing that I take away from football and I like to study NFL clubs. I study all the major sports teams and the reason why I study them is because it helps me understand the psychology of big business, big organization, billionaire thinking. And one of the things that I really noticed and loved about the NFL is that it's a conglomerate. You have individuals who compete against each other, but they're all working together to ensure that each other wins.
Speaker 2:And if you look at each organization, at every level of the organization, you have the football side of things and then you've got the business operations side of things. But at each level of those organizations there's kind of tiers of leadership, and I tell people that everyone within the company or the organization has to operate like a leader, right? Not no volunteers. Now, we don't have volunteers in our ministry. We have leaders, because I need everyone to be able to say, hey, there's a problem over here, let me go solve it, opposed to let me call Jay so Jay can go solve this, right. But if you look all the way down to on the field level of a football team, you have the head coach and then he has all of his offensive coordinators and then his defensive coordinators and then his special team coordinators, then his training men there's so many different levers and then, underneath each of those particular coordinators, then his training like there's so many different levers, and then, underneath each of those particular coordinators, they had different specialties, whether it's the defensive backs, the defensive line, the running backs, the quarterbacks, coach. And so I say that in the context of every business needs that type of structure and every individual needs that type of structure, like here in my home.
Speaker 2:My wife and I we do. We run our home as if it's a business. We have a whole budget, we have a vision for where we want to take our family. We have family meetings every Thursday night where we sit down and talk about your wins, what are your challenges, what can we do to help you right now, because we're a unit, right, we're all in this together and everyone has their roles and responsibilities. Who's going to couple in what night of the week? Who's responsible for taking the trash out? Who's responsible for making sure that the cleaning lady comes in and cleans the house and gets paid? We run our home like an organization, because we understand that with that structure and with that organization, like you said, it allows you to just be right. It allows you to be a human being. We weren't created, like you say, to hustle, bustle, to work and to slave. Every single day.
Speaker 2:I look at the story, you know. I go back to the Bible and I look at, like Adam and Eve, and you know I'm really mad at both of them for biting, you know, the fruit, right, because I'm like hold up. You need to tell me that I could be laying in the garden right now, naked, with everyone running around having a good old time, if they would have eaten from this particular tree. Yes, you know what I'm saying. And so, for me, I try to operate.
Speaker 2:That's where my work less to profit more philosophy comes from. It literally comes from the belief that work less. That doesn't mean that you don't set up ways for you to earn money, but because we've been conditioned to believe that the only way I can earn money is that I have to work. No, work less so you can profit more financially in your health and your relationships and the experiences that you create. And so that's why, like when I go into companies and help them build out their systems, processes and their team. It's to help the CEO free himself or herself up to work less so they can profit more.
Speaker 1:I love it All of that. It's so important. Yeah, everything that you just said. So where can everybody find you on social media?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so where can everybody find you on social media? Yeah, so, online. Online. J Jackson or you can type in J Jackson is business systems. You can find me on LinkedIn, facebook, instagram, tiktok threads and LinkedIn. I didn't say LinkedIn, but you can, yeah, just find me on social media. Connect with me, be a part of the community. You know that we're building, like I said earlier, we got a movement where we're trying to transform 10 billion lives before this world comes to an end, and so we'd love to have you be a part of it too, so we can help you or you can help someone within the community, because, at the end of the day, it does. It takes a village to raise a baby, and I look at our movement as a newborn baby, and so it's going to take all of us in order for us to do this, but I think that those who have enlightened self-interest can see how they can benefit from being a part of what we're doing.
Speaker 1:Awesome, and I'll share all your links in the show notes so that everybody can find you, and I think I joined your group. I'm not sure, but I'm going to as soon as we're done, if I have it. But thank you for being on today. I so appreciate it. You've imparted some amazing wisdom to the listeners and some great information on how to work less and to profit more. Thank you All. Right, everybody. Well, until next week, be well, be kind, and may you find some joy this week. Bye.
